I spent the majority of my 20's in the 80's. We had Boy George and Twisted Sister. Looking back, music wise, I wish I was born 10 years earlier or 10 years later. You had the last decade of good music. I envy you!
The last good eta in music was the Grunge era in the 90's. I would classify the Pumpkins as part of that scene. Then Crap, I mean Rap music took over, and that's all it's been ever since.
i'd have to agree. I'm a big gish/SD sympathizer but in this era they were in complete control. just check out the rest of this concert on YT, its incredible (and the guitars actually sound like real guitars). gish and siamese are full of legendary riffs but every track on MCIS is memorable and moving, a real masterpiece. it's so interesting to see these old videos of them playing to enormous crowds when they were unlike any other band that played to big crowds. they were an amazing underground band that just happened to have incredible mass appeal. say what you will about billy corgan being crazy but imho he was the ultimate frontman in his day.
I know this sounds stupid, but for some reason I just NOW realized he was talking about Chicago when he said "the city by the lake". I must've heard this song a hundred thousand times (literally) and for some odd reason it completely passed me by until he changed it to first person. Maybe it was just that it was always such an epic song for me that I didn't quite ever think of it as something that actually touched down here in anything in the dirt.
I think the song is about managing to make it out of an abusive household with his little brother. Not completely sure, but that's what most people speculate.
40thCapeRifles I live about 20 minutes away from the lake. I'm quite close to South Haven, (the place D'arcy was born) so I always thought that it was about South Haven, until I listened to the reprise and it clicked with me that he was talking about Chicago. Odd, right?
Wow. Hai sempre fatto fatica a cantare questa canzone live, gli alti sono troppo alti😂 ma grazie per aver composto questo capolavoro. Vi adoro ragazzi. Vecchia guardia 💂
@@ddmddmd Unfortunately that’s a bigger problem. Yes; there are fantastic bands out there but the fact that the record labels put the most bland, boring and dumb music upfront makes a huge damage, because they push away the good bands from their target audiences, and many of them eventually stop playing because they only get like 100 followers. Fine, you can look for the good stuff yourself but most people don’t do that or just don’t care, they only consume what’s in front of their eyes, like toddlers. Each crap artist that a record label promotes counts for 10 good artists that they ignore.
That song is a workout on the drums. Especially that verse part with the rimshot and high raise. Matt Walker did it justice but it’s no a Jimmy Chamberlain.
We wish a very happy 54th birthday to William Patrick Corgan March 17, 1967 Chicago born.. But known for a kinda west coast sound.. Doesn't matter. We love Billy and wish him well.
Crois crois en moi crois .. ... l impossible est possible .... crois en moi comme je crois en toi my old friend ... ce soir et tous les autres jours aussi ..... 💕💕💕
Time is never time at all You can never ever leave Without leaving a piece of youth And our lives are forever changed We will never be the same The more you change the less you feel Believe, believe in me, believe, believe That life can change that you're not stuck in vain We're not the same, we're different Tonight, tonight Tonight, so bright Tonight, tonight And you know you're never sure But you're sure you could be right If you held yourself up to the light And the embers never fade In your city by the lake The place where you were born Believe, believe in me, believe, believe In the resolute urgency of now And if you believe there's not a chance Tonight, tonight Tonight, so bright Tonight, tonight…
contundente: adjetivo 1. Que produce o puede producir daño. "un golpe contundente", 2. Que encierra tal convicción lógica o se expone con tal energía que no deja lugar a la discusión. "la contundente respuesta del ministro acalló las críticas de la oposición"
This song is noticeably different without Jimmy Chamberlin playing drums. Matt Walker is definitely really good, but he is not able to do the things Jimmy did on this song.
@@Vichedges D'arcy and James may not write the music, but there's no denying that the Pumpkins best material is with them in the band. They are 100% part of the DNA of the real Pumpkins.
Saw them live both on the Mellon Collie (before Melvoin tragically had past) and the Adore tours... this is falling closer to the Adore tour, where they butchered previously great songs. I remember the crowd on the Adore tour chanting for Zero so much that Billy had no other choice but to play it. And then he proceeded to perform a version of it that was a dogs breakfast, pretty much on par with the version of Bullet that they performed on the same show. I like Adore, the songs on it, the older songs that they performed on that tour were stripped of what had made them so great.
I remember Alapoulsia 93. Beastie boys played and then Billy and smashing pumpkins took the stage. Yelled this is the last fucking bottle left. Threw it to the crowd. Just layer in a grass field.
I think what's incredible about this song is how good it sounds without the strings. So many songs that use them sound empty without (the contemporary "Glycerine" by Bush comes to mind), but that C-G\B-D progression is equally as hypnotic with or without the strings.
![The Smashing Pumpkins [Cherub Rock - Live on MTV Most Wanted with Ray Cokes 1993]](/img/n.gif)
I remember watching MTV when i was a kid. So satisfying waiting your favorite songs and music videos. So simple life no toxic social media .
i agree with you
Billy is one of the great rockers of alltime!! such passion, , love it!!!
I consider myself so lucky that the majority of my 20’s were in the 90’s. Saw the best shows and the music was fantastic. Best time ever.
Lucky you. Here is SA you seldom get to see any bands.
I spent the majority of my 20's in the 80's. We had Boy George and Twisted Sister. Looking back, music wise, I wish I was born 10 years earlier or 10 years later. You had the last decade of good music. I envy you!
my teen ages where in the 90's ..i know what you men
The last good eta in music was the Grunge era in the 90's. I would classify the Pumpkins as part of that scene. Then Crap, I mean Rap music took over, and that's all it's been ever since.
I was a teen through the 90’s and I’m so glad I was. Great music, movies, sports. It was a great time to be alive.
"Believe, believe
That life can change
That you're not stuck in vain..."
My fav SM song. Goosebumps every single time. Damn! I am nearing 50.
This song makes me cry everytime I hear it...
can i wipe those tears away?
me too. :)
lmao wut
🖤
just don't listen to it then
Wow, superb performance! D'arcy looking hot! This was the Pumpkins in their absolute prime. Untouchable!
Smash at their highest musical and creative peak of their career.
i'd have to agree. I'm a big gish/SD sympathizer but in this era they were in complete control. just check out the rest of this concert on YT, its incredible (and the guitars actually sound like real guitars). gish and siamese are full of legendary riffs but every track on MCIS is memorable and moving, a real masterpiece. it's so interesting to see these old videos of them playing to enormous crowds when they were unlike any other band that played to big crowds. they were an amazing underground band that just happened to have incredible mass appeal. say what you will about billy corgan being crazy but imho he was the ultimate frontman in his day.
amazingdany
*Smashing Pumpkins
When Billy went bald... that’s when shit got real.
Machina was their peak. Most underrated album ever in history of rock music.
Pumpkins have always and will always be my favorite since 91. Soma is an emotional masterpiece.
I know this sounds stupid, but for some reason I just NOW realized he was talking about Chicago when he said "the city by the lake". I must've heard this song a hundred thousand times (literally) and for some odd reason it completely passed me by until he changed it to first person. Maybe it was just that it was always such an epic song for me that I didn't quite ever think of it as something that actually touched down here in anything in the dirt.
I think the song is about managing to make it out of an abusive household with his little brother. Not completely sure, but that's what most people speculate.
40thCapeRifles I live about 20 minutes away from the lake. I'm quite close to South Haven, (the place D'arcy was born) so I always thought that it was about South Haven, until I listened to the reprise and it clicked with me that he was talking about Chicago. Odd, right?
@@desertstormchefnice9446I thought it was about settling down as a successful adult after having a less-than-ideal childhood.
At first I was not sure whether he was making a cover of "love will tear us apart"
one of their influences
Imagine how beautiful that d be …. Billy hope u see this and do it …..
I like their cover of Isolation more than the original honestly
thats what i call a crowd. having Fun, dancing, singing and just feel the fucking Music. no damn smartphones.
Typing that bs from a smartphone...
U dumbfck
just because there were no smartphones back then
just because there were no smartphones back then
just because there were no smartphones back then
just because there were no smartphones back then
They need to show Darcy more, she's so cool
D'arcy Elizabeth Wretzky-Brown left the Band in 1999 😒
@@dirkwenzlaw8773 this recording is from 1997, so I don't know what your point is, plus you can clearly see her in the video.
not really...
@@ninja_tony Hahahaha
じぇづのぁめまゅぶげきれよるごうらぜんべぃぼ０４８７２３００６５６５６５６５１３０めぅんぃゃょぽんしぴるとうきんぐ０４８９７２６８５８７ずゎんつぎょうきすげんきりきるょはんはやしどぁれかがみとこやわんくらくらじょ９１０のぶ１３０６６６２ずきどぁにねんずきやらーまきるめんずめうくるむ
Incredible, brilliant. Not enough adjectives to describe the talent here......
One of the best songs of one of the best groups of 90-ies...
The drumming in this song is insane!
Yessir! When Jimmy is sober he is playing like a god fo shoe!
that's not jimmy
@@Yalter777
It's really does not matter! ))) Matt Walker also agood drummer! )))
Matt’s definitely no Jimmy that’s for sure what went on with Jim at this time?
3:17 - 3:49 the drummer is f@ckin' fantastic.
Jimmy Chamberlain was better
BEAUTIFUL
The Pumpkins in their absolute prime !
Awesome
I grew up in the City By the Lake -- Chicago... great memories !!!!!
TON NYHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!
lmfaoooooo
❤😂
incredible amazing song... just love it!
I've been looking for this video. Thank's for the wonderful gift.
Such a beautiful voice and personality and of course love him:-P
Just love this song so much and the message is fantastico
Amazing quality, thanks
Wow. Hai sempre fatto fatica a cantare questa canzone live, gli alti sono troppo alti😂 ma grazie per aver composto questo capolavoro. Vi adoro ragazzi. Vecchia guardia 💂
"Nuova" guardia ma mi aggrego al tuo commento
Bravo Simply Smashing Mates
The 90's were the last decade for great music like this
On the radio, maybe.
Obviously you never heard of great bands like Arcade Fire.
On mainstream, nowadays bands are just as awesome but not in tv or radio
@@ddmddmd Unfortunately that’s a bigger problem. Yes; there are fantastic bands out there but the fact that the record labels put the most bland, boring and dumb music upfront makes a huge damage, because they push away the good bands from their target audiences, and many of them eventually stop playing because they only get like 100 followers. Fine, you can look for the good stuff yourself but most people don’t do that or just don’t care, they only consume what’s in front of their eyes, like toddlers. Each crap artist that a record label promotes counts for 10 good artists that they ignore.
Such a perfect band
Agaleradosanosoitentaenoventaseelesveressescommentariosciceromarcelosidneimemandeumaloeliezermundau
Those were the days! ..
Indeed.
Wow the drums and that voice together
Whoeee!!
The smashing pumpkins are atill great. 90s smashing pumpkins was incredible.
*Merci pour le partage !*
Groupe et Festoche EPIQUE !!!
Soundtrack of my life
Dude I started singing along while watching this lol.
Take notE of an awesome audience WITHOUT A IPHONE IN SIGHT
Dump the iPhone at concerts and enjoy life for real
Temazo gran banda
1 of d fav. band of my era.
That song is a workout on the drums. Especially that verse part with the rimshot and high raise. Matt Walker did it justice but it’s no a Jimmy Chamberlain.
México.... Lo más grande en todo el planeta
We wish a very happy 54th birthday to William Patrick Corgan March 17, 1967 Chicago born.. But known for a kinda west coast sound.. Doesn't matter. We love Billy and wish him well.
Belated birthday Billy
Alucinaaaante
Believe it or not, this was breaking down "rhythmic" barriers in 1996-98
Could you break that further, very curious
me too
Je rêvais d'aller à cette édition des eurocks ! L'affiche était canon!
Crois crois en moi crois .. ... l impossible est possible .... crois en moi comme je crois en toi my old friend ... ce soir et tous les autres jours aussi ..... 💕💕💕
If you guys love this song- check out Springbok Nude Girls - Blue Eyes! Great song with this theme in mind
This is "tonight, tonight" without the string orchestra and still sounds amazing.
I love Billy's guitar and tone in this video
Time is never time at all
You can never ever leave
Without leaving a piece of youth
And our lives are forever changed
We will never be the same
The more you change the less you feel
Believe, believe in me, believe, believe
That life can change that you're not stuck in vain
We're not the same, we're different
Tonight, tonight
Tonight, so bright
Tonight, tonight
And you know you're never sure
But you're sure you could be right
If you held yourself up to the light
And the embers never fade
In your city by the lake
The place where you were born
Believe, believe in me, believe, believe
In the resolute urgency of now
And if you believe there's not a chance
Tonight, tonight
Tonight, so bright
Tonight, tonight…
I appreciate anyone taking the time to put the lyrics in comments. ❤️🚀😝👍😎
Thanks for the lyrics!!
Beautiful songs
contundente: adjetivo 1. Que produce o puede producir daño.
"un golpe contundente", 2. Que encierra tal convicción lógica o se expone con tal energía que no deja lugar a la discusión. "la contundente respuesta del ministro acalló las críticas de la oposición"
Cool. Super cool.
I Choke up every time I hear this 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️😂😂😂(can't explain it)...
Awesome 😎
懐かしいなー🎉
so cool
thanks🎉
So great
Genius song ❤
Fantastico ❤❤❤
"Contundente", is the word in my language for this song, unforgettable Smashing and nineties
2005 - SINTO SDDS!
You can hear the Cheap Trick influence in this performance 100%, I love it.
Hermosa batería en esta canción
Lol this is the second time I've seen billy sing a line at the wrong time
This song is noticeably different without Jimmy Chamberlin playing drums. Matt Walker is definitely really good, but he is not able to do the things Jimmy did on this song.
Yeah billy and Jimmy are the Pumkins. The other members seems to be interchangeable but it doesn’t sound right without Jimmy’s drumming.
I noticed this too. Jimmy's a killer drummer and Matt sounds a bit stiff. And I'm not even a drum snob!
Their sets sound completely different. Jimmy's drums just sound so good. Matt's snare is so thin in this.
@@Vichedges D'arcy and James may not write the music, but there's no denying that the Pumpkins best material is with them in the band. They are 100% part of the DNA of the real Pumpkins.
I prefer Kenny if it isn't gonna be Jimmy but Matt is also very good.
좋아하는 음악^^❤
Still my favourite Oasis song. Just can’t be beaten !!!
❤🎉🎉🎉bei tempi
Such a Godly Creature.
20 years ago.
carbuncle1977 20 Likes.
The BEST lineup. Bring back D'arcy before it's too late
the more you change, the less you feel
God damn beautiful
Drummer is kicking ass…..
still great i struggle to get into new music, i prefer the 90s, still enjoy the kitchen
Billy "may I take your order?" Corgan
😂😂😂
LOL
Ударник хороший был. Как его имя хоть, знает кто?
brillant 🔆 🔆
Damn, that snare part though.
Best beach concert ever, I think the Hamptons?
Jimmy looks awesome playing that Rickenbacker 360
That's James, not Jimmy.
Same fucking thing
Just here to remark on the drumming. Wow!
Saw them live both on the Mellon Collie (before Melvoin tragically had past) and the Adore tours... this is falling closer to the Adore tour, where they butchered previously great songs. I remember the crowd on the Adore tour chanting for Zero so much that Billy had no other choice but to play it. And then he proceeded to perform a version of it that was a dogs breakfast, pretty much on par with the version of Bullet that they performed on the same show. I like Adore, the songs on it, the older songs that they performed on that tour were stripped of what had made them so great.
I love you
WOOOooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.
We watched this today on Halloween 🎃🎃🎃
Was this D'arcy years? You can hardly see her in this video.
Dario Wirtha Yes, she is in here she left in 1999, if that’s what you’re asking.
DOPE!
Great performance
Great drumming
ありがとう
best band ever!
I remember Alapoulsia 93. Beastie boys played and then Billy and smashing pumpkins took the stage. Yelled this is the last fucking bottle left. Threw it to the crowd. Just layer in a grass field.
This song isn't the same without the opera in the background
Strings
Ironically I prefer the song without the strings.
Nor Jimmy in the drums
I think what's incredible about this song is how good it sounds without the strings. So many songs that use them sound empty without (the contemporary "Glycerine" by Bush comes to mind), but that C-G\B-D progression is equally as hypnotic with or without the strings.
I hate the strings. Pure guitar sounds better to me.
One and only voice
Amo muito tudo isso!!!!!!!!
I saw them in Quebec City on this tour and I could of swore the piano introduction opened this song. They opened to it. I’m I crazy or ?
Groovy music man
WOW
like the sadland demos of this song too, but this sounds great
Darcy ❤❤❤😘😘😘😘
Quiero volver a 1997 joder!!
Fuck man Voldemort rips on guitar in this. A+