Cheap vs Expensive Electric Scooter: What's the Difference?
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- Let's look at what you get when you spend more money on an electric scooter! Is it worth it? How did you decide how much to spend on YOUR scooter?
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If you call 700 "cheap", then I feel really poor...
Its not cheap lol
Cheapness is relative compared to the market segment. a cessna 152 is the cheapest airplane you can buy. Good luck finding a airworthy one for under 50k$.
I was thinking the same thing😂
Really guys? I build apex off road scooters that are priced 5500.-
@@purplepenguin43 you can find new e steps for under 100 dollar... if you know where to look...
I have the xiaomi Pro 2 for 1.5 years and I have done 2000km+ in total. I have modded it to go 35km max speed and it has been a life saver inside the town
I use it to go almost anywhere.
It costed me then 420 and something euros
It has made its money back and more
So you don't have to spend a fortune for an escooter to be satisfied.
I want to upgrade to a kaboo mantis 10 Pro that in my country costs 2100 euros and I cant wait to order it.
But I will keep the xiaomi one because it has never disappointed me :)
Edit: I have drove it in snow mud light rain heavy rain, 40+ degrees in the summer and it works flawlessly. Best scooter at 400 euros period
Nice 👍
I can agree with that. Yesterday I just sold my Xiaomi Mi Pro 2 wich I bought back in 2021. I used that scooter for almost all environments (even some light offroad) and besides the solid tyres upgrade (I got a flat tyre in about a week), it has never dissapointed me in exactly 3011 km. I’m looking to upgrade to a Zero 9 due to it’s serviceability and suspension system. Either way, Xiaomi impressed me with the quality of a 400€ scooter. I’ve kept in touch with the new owner as I’m very curious how long it will last before a main repair.
I really love the videos! Awesome narration and video quality. I am getting into scootering and have loved your videos as research. This is a very relevant comparison.
So, I got the kaabo skywalker 8s last week. I bought it for $610 brand new lol. I think their regular price is $1400. I am not sure if it goes to cheap or expensive scooter. I can say on uphill, it move my 175 lbs behind lol. It's fast and scary going close to 30 mph! I am not sure how someone can go 50 mph and not get scared. I know I want the kaabo wolf king, but I'll enjoy this one first and slowly move to that.
Looks like I won’t die on the “cheap” scooter! Vs wiping out at 50 miles per hour on the expensive one!
Then dont go 50mph on the expensive scooter. you can lock top speed on the expensive ones and still have that great acceleration to get to top speed quickly.
Drive slow = "longer life",; drive fast = "prone to accidents". Life is short.
@@balloney2175 it's all up 2 u, be aware of the surroundings and knowing the area where to get some speed snd where not its all what u need 😉
@@msamohod Area = neighborhood? I'd rather ran all the time than have one.
@@CrazyHunterXIII exactly. I bought an expensive scooter for ride quality and features. Mine goes 50mph, but I never go higher than 30. It's so smooth and badass. 50mph is too insane though.
The way i see it, a scooter like Kqi3 Pro is ideal for everyday commute and for people who want a higher quality entry-level scooter(not some cheap Xiaomi scooters) that will probably last longer as well.
Most of the times if you check your tire pressure often the less the risk of you having a flat, that applies to entry-level scooters and high end. People who want serious power and acceleration a scooter like Kqi3 is not ideal but for everyday people who use it for 5-6 or maybe more than 15 klm per day a scooter like this is perfect. My personal opinion!
Do u know how much the battery is on the kqi3
I agree plus that NIU has a 2 year warranty that covers the important parts.
BTW. I just received the Niu KQi3 you just compared and I love it! (Style, good speed) perfect for my commuter & leisure usage. Good video tho.
Mine will arrive tomorrow
@@luckyone4881 congrats! Enjoy!
Update, do u still use it, is it worth it?
@@MarcTheMessenger Use it? Yes. I actually bought another one for my son for Xmas and it has been a fun spring and summer. Still love it!
My first scooter Ninebot ES4, steering literally fell apart (warranty replaced entire scooter), second unit battery failed on initial ride (warranty replaced entire scooter) third time lucky... did 11,000kms on it over 2 years commuting, 5 sets of front suspension, 6 rear mudguards/brake units, 8 sets tires, 1 new rear shock, 2 sets wheel bearings, I hammered that thing to hell, I'm slightly over the recommended weight limit too. Rode in all conditions, heavy rain, cold, searing heat, and 3 minor crashes in the wet all related to debris on the road, (STILL ALWAYS WEAR A HELMET). - The scooter did me proud, but it was horrible.
Second scooter Dualtron Victor :-), 7000kms on it has the usual stem creak noise, thats it, nothing else ever gone wrong, I've not had the flat tire issue many reported, and ive done massive rides on this thing, top speed runs everywhere, the build quality is excellent by comparison, the R&D on Dualtron is obviously exceptional along with quality control and testing.
The main difference, in my opinion, between cheap and expensive scooters as this realistically translates to acceleration/range/top speed, is the operators ability to control them and likelihood of injuries, especially where operators lack experience on 2 wheels. Low end scooters rarely exceed speeds that are deemed dangerous, things dont come up on you so quickly at lower speeds, if things go pear shaped you can usualy stop and/or jump off and take a few steps avoiding anything serious. Most countries have a rule of either 300-350w power limit, or 25-32kmh speed limit (see all eBikes) as these usually limit the speed of an impact dramatically increasing survivability. I know these rules are not present in some countries, but just look at the statistics relating to their injuries 😲.
Many scooter shops I visited for test rides had no issue giving me a demo scooter of very high spec (and set to max) when I turned up on a large Motorcycle in full riding gear, this wasnt the case if I walked in or arrived by car, they assumed 'retard' and took a lot of time setting the scooter up in granny mode and supervising my initial demo ride in a car park.
An expensive high output scooter can get out of shape very easily due to many factors, though most incidents start because of road/pavement surface changes, obstructions, or debris etc. The speed you are travelling at, and protective riding gear being worn, then determine the resulting injuries in most cases.
Motorcross riders crash faster, more often, and much heavier that mtb riders but the protective gear being worn results in far less injuries, bicycle riders have a lot to learn and few formal training channels to learn from.
Experience on a motorcyle does pay huge dividends as you are experienced at reading the surface constantly, something car drivers are not trained for and seldom pay attention to, cars balance themselves due to 4 wheels.
My local shop has had 3x Dualtron Victors back as part of insurance claims for road traffic accidents , each of these factored an inexperienced operator being allowed to "go for a spin on it" and resulted in life changing injuries and lots of damage, none of the others have ever come back for a warranty claim, nothing more than a puncture repair.
Just as RK9 mentioned the high end scooters have fewer reliability issues, and have a longer lifespan, though the most important difference (in my opinion) is the skill required to safely operate these high end scooters.
Just my opinion, love your contribution here RK9, you helped me decide to get a Victor :-). stay safe mate.
Excellent comment!
Extremely well done comment. Huge props.
I don't that one is designed for whatever mountain you rode that down every day.
so, would you say, a good compromise which new / zero-experience riders (like me) can make is: go ahead and buy that high end scooter, but avoid temptation and **keep it** in granny mode, at least until a few months or a year of riding is under the belt?
are there other aspects of higher-powered scoots operations which require higher skill i'm not aware of, besides driving them at higher-speeds?
@@RexGanymede Reading the surface is likely the most important factor, a couple misplaced pieces of gravel (on a corner) can literally end in disaster, so reading the surface is the first thing to really take the time to do and all the time. Reading the surface is something you learn as a motorcyclist and it becomes second nature making you safer in a car as well. Take your time ramping up the power and ensure you always wear full body protection, armoured jacket, helmet, motorcycle gloves, knee pads if possible.
There is some really good mountainbiking gear out there too and it fits under baggy clothing, it take take a hell of a beating too. Maybe get fully kitted out and wear it religiously for every ride, then when it does inevitable go pear shaped you are likely to significantly reduce injury. Be safe mate.
First scooter was the Gotrax G4. Died in a less than a year. Loved that thing! But Now, i upgraded to a Inokim OXO. It was a lot to handle at first, but now I've grown a accustom to it. its expensive but worth the money for sure.
*Battery life is great **Latest.Bike** Scooter . Love the different driving modes. It’s got a little headlight and taillight too. Gets lots of looks haha*
I have a Gotrax G4 and a Yume S10. The Gotrax G4 I use for small commutes around my area. It’s perfect for that. The Yume S10 I use to go to work and back, which is about a 4.4 mile round trip. I can go back and fourth at least a few times on a charge, it’s great.
I like you review. Something I'm having a ruff time with is finding trustworthy dealers. Your simple view helps me a lot and I appreciate it!
I’m into last mile type commuting to go on major public transport. Believe it or not 230 w rear hub drive Razor e300 may have same
battery life issues that is better managed by its stock variable speed throttle than its predecessors. It still has kept the rugged performance
as I frequently had to ride to the construction sites for work. Front pneumatic tire is tough maintenance to the components is simple but removing the rear wheel is “involved”. My expectations are realistic and does the same tasks as entry level scooters 3x the price.
I got a Dualtron this summer as my first e-scooter. Got it for 2k it’s a model down or two form the Victor. It’s pretty cool tho the max speed is 37 but I regularly mob around 20-30mph. I had to do some repairs after getting over 1000 miles on it but it’s been pretty easy to reinforce the areas needed.
E bikes better for long commute but a scooter has it's place
Will you be reviewing the new Apollo City Pro? I’m almost certain I’m going to pull the trigger. More of a mid range scooter but I appreciate the low maintenance and beautiful design.
Great video. Your channels gonna get bigger soon man. GL
About 20 years ago I purchased a Go-Ped Ex (four lead acid batteries) that would maybe hit 18 MPH. It was fun and it still runs well. I just purchased a Mantis v2, and like it. It appears to be well made and can get my 265 lbs moving pretty quickly.
Love this video clean n clear
Thanks for making a good video with truly usable information
@RK9_RIDES I won a prize?
I have an X-Track, it's somewhere in the middle between the cheap beginner commodities and crazy-expensive racing suicide machines. It gives me 44 km/h (about 27 mph) and that's fast enough for me.
Love zipping around on that little "micro mobility vehicle"! :)))
I just rode my first e-Scooter a few weeks ago (a Bird One), and was instantly hooked. I sometimes use one of the Bird rentals to commute home when I'm not feeling like walking 3 miles, and have been on the hunt for an e-scooter I can use to get to work and run around town. This Dualtron has been on my radar since I started looking. I don't really need to go that fast, but I'm a heavy dude, and a lot of the lighter weight, less expensive scooters aren't built to handle my bulk. These videos have been incredibly useful for me in my hunt for my first electric commuter vehicle, and if it happens to be a ton of fun to ride, all the better.
You will never regret buying one. I use mine everyday and can’t imagine life without it. It’s so handy and 40miles on 1 charge is possable
It's like a on road jet ski
I was stuck between choosing the Emove cruiser and Splach Titan. Found the Splach Twin to serve my purposes as a 250 lb rider. I just tried to test real range and got a minimum of 18 miles. I still had two bars left but got tired riding for over an hour. Code for $100 off : ESI100. Not sponsored, just sharing the savings.
Use a Dragy to test speed. That's what we use for 1/4 miles records
Thanks for another great video.
I had an Hiboy s2 pro. Returned it in less than a month and bought the Vsett 9+ and man that decision was great.
What's wrong with the hiboy s2 pro?
@@larryc1616 For me it was the hills. It didn't have enough power to climb. The scooter also cuts its speed by half when the battery goes below 50%. I would go to work with a fully charged battery and it'll be almost 50% battery when I get arrive. So I would have to ride home with half the speed lost from battery drainage.
I got the Ninebot F40a a few days ago and it is great but, it cannot climb hills very well.
It is a great scooter for getting to the shops or any other place i need to go.
It also has an app that shows the scooter status.
Vsett 10+ .. it’s in the middle. About 5600 miles so far and still love it like day 1.
Just bought a niu kqi2 for $379, in the US of A. Seemed like a good place to start for various reasons. I figure a full suspension is in my future some day. Fun channel to watch, keep up the good work.
i have used my xiaomi m365 for 2 years in both snow, rain and heat and it has no flaws other than the wipeout i had where i broke the break handle which i just replaced
I just starting to get into e-scooter. I was craving for the thrilling acceleration. I just picked up the Teverun Fighter Supreme. IMO if scooters are 80lbs+ it’s not too practical to put in trunk. Mostly consumers with that size of a scooter will want range or speed. Cannot wait to ride it!! Thanks for the videos.
I ordered a "Cheap" Gyroor X8. I just wanted a scooter that was comparable to the rental scooters they have downtown but, it would be all mine. I'm not looking to do more than 20 mph just recreational riding. Besides, it's harder to check out the dogs walking their chicks if you go too fast!
I've been looking to save and buy one and your channel is very helpful and informative. Was looking to cheap out and buy a sub 1K scooter but maybe I'll save some more as I'm about build, reliability, and ease of reparability. Sounds like I'd have a better time with a more expensive one that can last me longer and that I can repair myself.
I have a cheap scooter, but not the cheapest: an E-TWOW Booster. I need it to be light and I don't want it to be too fast, because I don't want to need too much gear. I think that when I'll want a tougher scooter, I'll just buy a seated one. Or a motorcycle if I need something even faster.
Dragy is what we use in the car community, and I’ve also seen other people with fast scooters use it too. It measures acceleration and top speed extremely accurately
What exactly is Dragy? Is it an application or is it a gadget. Would you be so kind as to provide a link? 🙂
nice comparative video! spotted the Mantis there in your clip and it reminded me.. the new Mantis V2 is out. will this be a scooter you will be testing at all and comparing to your Mantis and your trusty Varla Eagle ?
Ive been looking for a safer better travel option since I dont have a license and I dont trust public transit and Lyft and Uber are super pricey lately these videos have been helpful for a beginner E-Scooter buyer like myself.
thanks for the videos, Im waiting on my first scooter a prozip ultraboost... its hard to find any info about this model, but hopefully your tricks will help when I get it!
Got an Unagi E500... Uh. It's okay for what I bought it for, but the biggest, most annoying problem is that adding any accessories or making modifications/personalizations is pretty much impossible. But it was my very first scooter, and I may find myself pushing boundaries more and more and wanting faster, or more off-road capable scoots in the future. (Recommendation as a first scooter? ... Well, I'm not totally disappointed yet.)
I’m not an enthusiast, rather I’m a short commute scooter owner. I have the Niu but I considered the Apollo City. It fits my five mile, flat paved bike path, twice a week, and only in good weather commute (I drive in the rain and snow). The Apollo seemed better in most criteria, but the sale price of the Niu meant it was almost half the price of the Apollo - cost was a big concern. However, so too was quality. Virtually every video or article I watched or read praised the Niu’s build quality. My guess is the Apollo would have been a step up here too. In the end, the 2 year Niu warranty and it’s on sale price strongly influenced my decision.
This is all to say, spend your money on what you need and enjoy your new scooter. I appreciate the video and the points made about the trade-offs for the money spent.
Man I just discovered your channel. I just ordered the NIU kqi2 from Slickdeals for about $480. My first was the meepo version 2 I believe. It was a great board for about 2 years for my leisurely use but then something happened where it just kept going by itself and then I had that fall because I thought I had done something wrong when really it was the thing went bad in the computer. So now my next step is that NIU kqi 2. From the reviews I looked at a few days ago and now from your awesome channel that I hope goes big because you do a very thorough review of stuff. I've chosen that because it seems like a good quality entry level scooter. And I'm also an investor. After that I will keep searching for mid-level scooters and then high-end scooters. So far in the high end scooters I want to really try out a weped, they look crazy cool. Berri No-ICE. Keep up your excellent videos.
2 week update... kqi2 showed error code 42. After about 15 miles. Sad, excellent quality and service but error in less than 30 days makes me scared. Maybe after a few months I'll try to i3. No-ICE.
I have a Emove Cruiser
I got that scooter
Because the range and
It's IP rating and the
Speed isn't bad.
Good price point
Good customer service
Good scooter reviws.
Thanks!
My first scooter was a joyor x5s and yes it was a mistake. When I got my refund, I added money a bought the Emove Cruiser and it was a scooter that could take a beating and still ask for more, from that was the eagle one. The Varla eagle one trained me for faster scooters which lead me to my Bumblebee aka the Vsett 10+. The Vsett 10 was the best upgrade to the Varla, the Vsett 10 has the best stem and really great suspension.
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You can absolutely upgrade the handlebars on the KQI3 Pro! It has 4 bolts covered with rubber stoppers..
Just bought my first scooter, and got it a few days ago. Unfortunately with the inclement weather, I haven't had a chance to ride it. Not being too familiar with scooters, I went with one that balanced weight/speed/range/price and ended up with a copycat scooter, the Fluid Freeride Horizon. Hoping it has enough endurance to last a year or two before upgrading to something that is a step up in quality. Though living on a third floor, it limits my options trying to find one that is still relatively light weight.
its a well built scoot, I have about 1300 miles on my t8/horizon and never gotten a flat.
nice bro i went with a kugoo m4 pro im on my third trigger throttle and second speed controller and i've done about 50miles on it so far lol. Give it time bro you'll be wanting to upgrade soon
@@battyflaps5410 ouch, probably not the best investment then? lol
@@battyflaps5410 Yeah i have that piece of crap too. I regret not going with good scooters like from segway or the vsett line
I’m on my third scooter now. You may have to sacrifice convenience for durability as I did. I need to go up and down stairs to get the scooter on and off trains. I went with the nanrobot lightning. Amazing scooter 🛴 but at 65 pounds, it’s a little heavy for stairs. Still worth it though.
I purchased my 2 do NIU Qi3 pro is Perfect thanks Viset
I urgently have a kqi2 and I love it I just changed the grips out for fifty-fifty blue lock grips that extend the length a bit and I love the cruse control on it. I also have a fat tire bike that goes about 30mph and a populou road bike that goes maybe 20 with upgraded tires and used to have a more powerful I’d say mid grade scooter but I gave it to someone for their kid that was looking for an upgrade for them but I do miss it that’s okay though it was a good cause. Also I love me regular mtb with tubeless tires and was thinking of getting an electric removable or portable friction motor for it when my girlfriend rides my fat tire bike so we can both go off road easily.
I had the classic Xiaomi M365 back in the day, 1600km being used, changed the tires after flat tire to solid wheels to avoid anymore flats, then the fuse failed, not gonna lie, the scooter took a beating during its usage, it behaved pretty well.
Today I'm waiting for the Kqi3 Pro to arrive at my house, let's see how big of an upgrade it is, I chose it over the Xiaomis they have today due to larger wheels, better range, more robust chassis and increased power for some hills so it doesn't slow down too much. I plan on owning it for as long as possible.
How is it so far?
I was using Kaabo wolf, Mantis, Dualtron t238 and now my choice is Xiaomi pro 2, easy weight, normal speed for city, right now u modified it with monorim and it perfectum right now, so u have good e-scooter bro!
@@kurukiddo Much better than my previous one. The hills that back then I was climbing at 10km/h, now this one can climb them at 20km/h, range is 37-41km (always on sports mode, and with hills aswell), haven't test the range on eco yet. It's quite comfortable the ride despite its tubeless tyres but not as smooth as wheels with air chamber. Every tiny rock you run over, it will get twitchy. And if it's hot outside and you're running on sports mode with 10% battery or less... It will show ERROR 41 which means overheating battery, it always happens at low battery, but if you use eco mode,the error won't show, so if you run low (or the screen only shows 1 of 5 bars of battery), eco mode is the way. Electric brake is strong even in the middle setting, but it's kinda tricky to use it with the mechanic brakes, sometimes it slows down really fast, others doesn't enable the eABS and it only brakes with the discs. Nonetheless if you DO mean you wanna brake, it will always brake, and faster than a Xiaomi. Lights aren't the best but if it's really dark outside (like in a village, not the city) the front light is more than enough. All in all I feel safer in this one since it's bigger, like I feel the traffic sees me better with this one, they're having a second thought running over me than on a Xiaomi 😂
@@PetreMihai94 Oh wow! Thank you so much for the insight. I pre-ordered the KQi3 Max, still waiting for it to be shipped. For now, I'm using my dad's Jetson Electric Bike which is pretty good for going around places lol
@@kurukiddo No prob. Oh, and it also depends on how much you weight. That will change the stats. I have 75kg. Forgot to say that
I found a lightly used hover 1 alpha for $100 that only needed innertubes and I'm extremely happy with it
those are slow
With Solid tire and with suspension is a better cheap scooter, like KS5 Pro. With the seat is better, more stable, less tiring and with the hook for grocery bags or backpack to free your shoulders. Perfect for city commute. Expensive ones are more for rural areas and long distance commute, bigger wheel is better.
All you need is a dragy 10hz gps based performance monitor they use it in the drag racing industry. Great video
You can also set a custom mode in the app on the heap scooter!
I got a super cheap scooter on Amazon. The gyrocopter Flash 3.0. It was on sale, with tax cost 450 CAD. I use it for my commute to and from work 10-15 min by scooter, cutting walk down from 30-40 mins. Overall I absolutely love it. It's my first scooter. I fold it up and put it in my locker (bikes get stolen because we have to lock them up outside). If it last a year, I'll be thrilled and it'll have been well worth it. It has shocks (from what I remember) but I really have to watch the potholes in the road as they could send me flying or at least give me a nasty jolt. With our roads, I wouldn't want to go faster than 25 Km. The 'expensive' scooter looks kickass, but don't think I'd be brave enough to go 50km on a scooter. Hats off to you. Great little invention for urban traveling. Also, my cheap one can't handle any kind of gravel roads; it's definitely a paved road kind. For other adventures, I'm going to get an ebike. Rode a friends last weekend. Amazing.
As a KQi3 Sport owner I also gotta mention the big difference between the cheap and expensive scooter: accessibility. And I do not mean that the Cheap one can just be clicked together, charged and then is ready, but from a regulations standpoint. In my country (Austria) riding the Dualtron Victor out of the box is straight up ILLEGAL! Because the scooter is capable of speeds higher than 25km/h (15mph) and has much more power than the 600W limit, with the speed it can go it legally becomes a MOTORCYCLE! Meaning you need to register it with the Austrian DMV, slap a license plate on it, get it insured and most importantly, own a Motorcycle driver's license! Considering that in my country, getting a drivers license can cost a good 1000€! (nearly twice as much as the price of the KQi3 Pro) getting the scooter all legally setup can cost as much as the scooter itself, meaning you are looking at a good 5000$ at which price it would just make more sense to buy an actual 125ccm motorcycle (NIU is apparently working on an electric 125ccm equivalent.)
These legal regulations deminish the entire purpose of the Dualtron's offroad capabilities in the first place because you are not allowed to just take it offroad anywhere you want.
If you buy the cheap scooter, the NIU should last at least 2 years as it is under warranty. so for the price of the Dualtron in my country you could get about 6-8 KQi3 Sports that can last you for over a decade if you use them one after the other. (I am saying KQi3 Sport because the Pro with it's peak performance of 700W also has to go through all kinds of legal hoops here before it can be driven.) cheaper sub 600W scooters are considered bicycles. Meaning if you live in a bicycle friendly city with lots of cycling paths escooters can technically be your only means of transport within the city. Get a big backpack and turn your weekly grocery shopping to daily smaller grocery runs and the scooter basically becomes your only needed means of transportation making life a whole lot cheaper. I think cheaper scooters are more fitted for the European market whereas expensive ones fit the American market more. as long as the scooter is foldable you are allowed to take it on busses, trams and trains here so if you ever have a long trip all you need is your scooter to do the first and last mile and the public transit doing the heavy lifting. This makes the cheap scooter the far better choice but I do agree with you that it's better to still get a quality commuter scooter. I would generally stay away from all M365 clones, only getting the real deal from Xiaomi or buy from trusted reputable brands that have a big community like Ninebot or NIU.
Mostly the same on every country on EU. But that power limit just make sense for a person with a weight of 70kg. So what if your weight is more than 90kg?... lol
@@jsanchezba I am weighing in at about 105kg when I scoot with with all my gear equipped (clothes, helmet, filled backpack, lock, etc) and my scooter takes me to 15mph just fine, just with slower acceleration of course.
I currently have two electric scooters. I first got a razer e95 to test things out: It was painfully slow. So, I upgraded to razer's e300. I still use it to this day, and it's a nice $300 scooter. Battery mods are a difficult task, but they can be done (not much room in the battery compartment). My main complaints are having no modes, the throttle is all or nothing, no way of knowing how much battery is left, and no spedometer. If those features were impemented, then it would be an awesome $300 scooter. Especially if it had hot-swappable batteries!
There are variable throttle kits for the e300
I just ordered a Hiboy2s... Decided on it because I don't have the best knees and will have to walk about 1/4-1/2 mile to work soon. Plus it would go faster since I have asthma and can't run or job without pretty much passing out after a few minutes without an inhaler
You should buy a draggy for acceleration tests etc. They work perfectly
I got my self about 2 weeks ago an momodesign evo 9 form my local shop that had 4 scooters on display. I picked this one because it cost at time 420 euro instead of 500, and looks more solid and proper than scooters from xiaomi that also were there. Range technically is 25 kilometres but but I live in place with steep down and hills so I get about 8 kilometres before scooter starts to hardly struggle uphill. And also what I have noticed is there is no informations what so ever about evo 9 except couple sentences on online sellers pages. No reviews on YT, no nothing anything else. But non the less, I like this scooter even tho it can't be called best.
I am waiting my first one varla eagle one pro. I been researching for few months, was thinking got the few hundred ones but I saw too much review said those are wobbly and hard to fix, then I moved to the advanced one. I did struggle for a while between varla, hi boy, and wolf king; and I saw varla had discount going on…. I got my first scooter🤣
Damn you ride fast! I’ve got 3 escooters that will hit 25mph and I don’t go over 6mph normally. I have reached top speed and I find if you jump a little just before cruse control kicks in you can get it a little quicker when it does.
there is a GPS gadget called "Dragy". it updates GPS rapidly enough, and is commonly unsed for scooter performance testing.
some riders attatch it ontop of their helmet. it.
it then sends the Data and Measurements to your phone.
in the app, you can set up a variety of different testing parameters.
- various accelleration molestones ... (like the scooter takes 15 seconds from 0 to 20 km/h)
- various distance milestones ... (like the scooter takes 190 seconds to reach a distance of 1km)
- or brakes (like it takes 2.5 seconds from 20 to 0 km/h)
(where the brake test tells more about the rider than the scooter itself)
quite a handy device.
if you want, i can send you a german youtube i know who uses the Dragy regularly.
he uses it for performance tests on all the scooters he gets his hand on, and did a short unboxing/presentation when he firtst got it.
Can i suggest enabling "Force full GNSS measurements" in the Developer option in android not completly sure how this works but from what i've read it improves the accuracy and rate at which your GPS refreshes.
7:21 that's it, this is exactly what i was looking for, all the other pointless features like speed and battery capacity mean nothing, it's RGB lightning im looking for!
Tried a NIU KQI2 PRO and ended up going with an Inokim OX Super. It was $1000 with taxes and shipping so about 2x the price, but it's infinitely more smooth, takes me at least 3 times as far at around 28mph (max 31, min 26) compared to around 17mph with the KQI 2 PRO and is far easier to maintain. I would've liked to go with a faster scooter, but since I was buying two (one for me and one for my brother), 1k was already a pretty big ask for a scooter. It gets us to and from the gym, provides us with a fun/inexpensive way of getting around the city, and saves us on paying for parking.
Well I’m going to buy a Apollo Ghost Hydraulic I just ride the Apollo Phantom and the feeling was so great but you don’t have to forget that every scooter have to be scale on what pound/ kilo you do to have the perfect performance so if 200 pounds is better to have a expensive one than a cheaper with hydraulic and suspension this “expensive” scooter can support the weight between 200 to 300 pound and keep the good / max speed but the cheaper on can lose speed depends of your weight
I bought a Mototec Thor last fall. It was about $1200 before tax. It has a few quirts to work out, but the only thing I can't figure is why my handlebars won't stay firm. Winter came and I haven't dealt with it yet this year.
Holy moly! That's some next level collection of scooters. Some people like shoes or cars. Mannnnnn. That's insane a lot of scooters.
Believe me, you get hooked quick. I’m on my third scooter now 😂😂😂😂
Garmin. GPS units work great for you speed tests just an idea. Lezyne is affordable and does the same thing. Personally I have a Lezyne Mega XL and a Garmin 520 which I use more often and the Lezyne just sits around. Since they are dedicated GPU units they update faster than a phone.
It should be noted and mentioned that most of the “high-end” scooters will have reliability issues and require much more maintenance, they also don’t typically have the same level of water resistance.
I have been wanting a scooter for about a year. I’ve learned all about them, but your review led me to the KQI 3pro! It’s ordered and will be arriving tomorrow 😊
How is it? Mines coming in a week
So…. I’m careful to get into it! It’s powerful and very sturdy! This is my first e scooter and I could have gone with the KQI2.
Bruh I really don't understand how y'all dealing with 15 mph maximum speed limit, when there's scooters for that price which go around 26
@@dorinbadulet5677 yeah ikr I’m glad the kqi goes 19mph
@@User94827Z. my kugoo kirin M4 Pro does 27
Gotta love the view in Utah!
I bought a used gotrax g2 for $150 and its been pretty good to me. only bought it to keep up with my 4 year old on her kick scooter and im having more fun than her. wanting to upgrade to something about a little faster and with at least twice the range.
I've just ordered the NIU KQi2 Pro which I got reduced from £500 to £350. I'm using it for work which should do the job but eventually i may upgrade to those dual motor and suspension ones with more speed.
I have the niu kuiq 3 sport just for a 3 or 4 week's long and it's awesome
I have a emove cruiser and it’s the perfect scooter in between expensive and budget. 3000 miles and the speed or range hasn’t noticeably changed. Above 1000$ scooters are higher maintenance too cause they aren’t built as rigid as shared scooter type scooters and you ride expensive scooters at 25 mph + which is more wear and tear on tires especially
Jeez, I’m on the precipice of buying an Emove Cruiser as an upgrade to my GoTrax. Is it still kicking and would you still recommend? I’ve gotten a bit spooked seeing some horror stories of quality issues on the internet since getting ready to actually click the purchase button…
@@DellSnooze yeah I still use it and it works perfectly. I recommend doing Uber eats or doordash etc after getting the scooter to pay it off quick just make sure to check all the main nuts and bolts before each ride (can use fingers and twist them to check tightness
@@DellSnooze it’s how you take care of it. If you abuse it, it will break. The emove is supposed to have the best range. 62 miles because of the 30AH battery
You could buy the Dragy Box for around 150$ 0,01s between two GPS measurements.You can connect it also with your Phone.check it out.
Waiting for Niu Kqi 3 Max version :)
I think there's one thing in common among high end expensive scooters beside speed, is that they are all very high up from the ground (high ground clearance), and almost no one ever mentioned that. Not sure why that's the case especially for their speed. Lower is better for stability at high speed.
Is it not for when turning at faster speeds that the wider bigger tires can cut the gap and then be better at handling bad roads so you don't hit the bottom of the scooter off the ground. I'm just thinking I'm not 100% sure
But then look at sports cars, they are all as close to the ground as possible. Escooters are the exact opposite lol
I prefer low ground clearance all day since I don't go off road nor jumping lol
@@carbrickscity yeah I get what you mean it is definitely different
The higher end scooters usually have a swing arm suspension which gives them more ground clearance.
Theres been a ton of the cheaper scooters for sale on the used market here,it seems they all need a replacement battery...and they arent that old nor do they look abused. Is that a similar thing with the higher end scooters also....i can see replacing tires and brakes as they wear out,is it the same for the batteries if they just sit for awhile etc...
I recomend drag racer, its great for comparing acceleration
For speed tests stop at the 3rd or 4th light pole
i bought a second hand kugoo g-booster 2 months ago...this cheap low quallity scooter is amazing..i ride in the coldest weather running atleast 40km every night with full throttle and a lots ot start-stops like a mad man.,..i did 50km with remaiming voltage for 10 more for sure..sometimes i think the advertised range of 85km is very much possible even in 5 degrees Celsius outside temp...i had to swap the brakes for full hydraulics Avid SL for that amazing stopping power i needed badly and i made my own steering column made of pure calibrated steel because the OEM alloy is not good for the steering...its very sturdy but it doesnt like its powerful acceleration and emergency stopping because it starts to bend in and out and eventually it cracks in the welded point...my new custom steering column is awesome,but i think soon i will need stronger joint...i will do that too with my friend who can make everything from any metal i want...idk how to say it in english..he is Стругар...metalworking guy in Bulgarian language..i swapped the original 10inch for 11" tires too...the scooter is awesome and if you dont mind the stiffer suspension you can have a massive fun with it...just remember...if the voltage falls to 45V in rest you should turn off dual mode and go home in eco mode :) i had a turn off event and its not funny to push this 33kg (accesorys) scooter 5km away from my home...lesson learned and i never had to push it again...the top speed is 55 no matter if you are 60kg like me or you are 100 like some of my friends...55kph is your top speed every time your voltage is 50V+ in rest...48V or less your top speed is going down to 40 and 37 was my max speed just before the turn off event...idk if it did that because i was on full throttle,but it was a surprise for my because i thought i have enought voltage to get home...next time i will try to put it in 2nd or even 1st gear to see if i can do more miles...yes i know its bad for the battery so i will do this only if i need to get home on low battery...not for fun..i love my EsCOOTER...i will buy FASTER one some day..i promise...love you guys,see you in the eScooter heaven (i hope) hahahah Have fun
Kqi3 pro is such a good scooter first scooter i ever bought
I bought the Segway GT2
I wanted a scooter that will last me a few years, i mostly need it to travel to work only 2 miles (4 miles total)
No regrets, it's my favourite purchase ever!
What's the Victor like driving slow and manoeuvring? I just got the storm, and it's really hard. Im thinking I may of bit off a bit too much and swap for a smaller lighter model
Every model takes time to get used to it.
What's the slope percentage of the usual hill test you do?
I'm getting my first scooter soon and considering getting the NAMI BURN-E ELECTRIC SCOOTER
Would you recommend that ,
Thanks
I could not help but not notice the expensive scooter would double the stats in all comparisons. That means price too ahha. (I have a nanorobot d6) (kept having tire and break issues though so recently I just bought the (outstorm maxx pro plus) I cant wait to try this one haha. I really wanted a Rion or the new Wolf GT but they seem much harder to get haha..... I liked the video , great content I agree with all of it. Is your Dualtron your favorite one that you have at the moment?
I went with the nanrobot lightning because of the solid tires. Yes, the ride is not as smooth but my friend has a D5 and he complains about constant flats.
whats yout thought on the joyor s5 I just purchased 2 of them and I'm hoping I didn't make a mistake
I bought a miami350 four years ago and it was moderatly fine but the speed limit of 16mp/h made feel like a grown up kid. I could have bought a more expensive one but not many where certified water resistant at the time.
I right now have a gotrax gxl v2 I got for like 200 or something almost a year I ride like 3-5 miles a day mostly for fun but do sometimes take it places I am looking to upgrade to a niu kqi3 max is this good?
Got 4 myself, s2 and pro then that giant piece of crap the kugoo m4 pro which has had nothing but qc issues with useless alibaba support. I recently got the ninebot max and honestly its been amazing its tough and i can finally commute relatively stress free through most weather. I'd love to buy a dual motor at this point but honestly scared of possible qc problems and having a difficult time repairing the issue so might go to an ebike next time
Got myself today the joyor s10s for 919€ its my first scooter ever i hope it will be good. Do you think its a good choice?
all the escooters seem to have the exact same speed controller, I'm wondering if I have the right pins can I just replace it with others that look just like it? im looking to get a usb charging port with a different controller, maybe I can even get key or thumb print security
I live in Utah same as you, and I'm thinking of buying a new scooter from Hiboy S2 pro for somewhere around the $1000~$1500 range, I'm thinking of riding it one or twice a day about 10miles. Which one do you recommend due to Utah's weather conditions?
If you’re worried about weather, go with the e-move cruiser. High IPX rating and 33mph.
Great video, helps me a lot. Please can you advise me on HT-T4 Max electric scooter, AKA "clone of Segway G30"? I want to buy it tomorrow from local store, it looks great and promises a lot for a nice price of 600 euros. However, your opinion would be welcomed as well as this is my first scooter. Also, I need it only to go to work and back. Thank you.
Use a Draggy or Racebox GPS. 10 or 25hz GPS refresh rate
You guys should review the SOLAR e scooter brand
I've had my xiaomi m365 pro for four years and ride it almost every day, until last month when it just stopped working- I had upgraded every part imaginabe with high quality aftermarket upgrades {momorim suspensions,etc.} Im still working to get it going again and confident I will be able to fix it. However I purchased two more scooters in the meantime- 1 $1500 Urban Drift Gobi S #2 $450 Hiboy Max 3. i recommend the Max3 to anyone but the urban drift has issues not work the extra $1000 in price.
Good video !! You have chosen good brands: Dualtron and Niu! Dualtron is one of the best brands in terms of motors, batteries, control units and quality! Niu is a brand that makes motorcycles and mopeds so it's a good brand too!! Currently, the Niu Qki 3 pro model costs less in sales and there is another slightly more superior model, the Niu Qki 3 Max, which is more expensive than the previous models and has a little more specifications! There is also another new model of Dualtron Victor Luxury with a little more specifications!! Currently in the section of mid-level scooters (in terms of features) and high in price quality is Xiaomi Segway Ninebot, two good brands that are at the top! Segway Ninebot and Xiaomi are one of the best that I have currently tested, very well built, they are at the same level as a Dualtron in terms of the quality they offer !! So choosing between Dualtron or Xiaomi or Segway Ninebot or Niu is up to each individual. It depends who wants more power or someone who just wants to move around the city easily and doesn't need so much power !! I personally like both, high-powered scooters and also moderately powered scooters to go more calmly, because not every day is the same and not every day you feel like going 80 km per hour, right? apart from the fact that it is not legal in our region! But the two brands and Xiaomi Segway Ninebot are one of the best you can buy in terms of quality! a big hug 🥰🙏🏼👏🏾🛴
The niu kq13 pro is $999. Plus taxes in Canada. Not cheap ! Lol
But great quality e scooter! 👌
I have the D18W from Segway it's only $300 AND I love it the only downside is the range. I have a 3-mile commute to and from work so this is perfect for me, but... if you have a commute over 5 miles round trip I would not recumbent this scooter.