How do they compare? Gyeon Mohs Evo vs Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light
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- Опубліковано 9 чер 2024
- This video goes into a comparison of these two coatings. Gyeon Mohs Evo was reformulated and aimed to compete with Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light. Both coatings are very similar in application and hydrophobic behavior. These two are really close.
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Intro: (0:00)
Gtechniq CSL Application: (3:00)
Gyeon Mohs Evo Application: (7:00)
Visual Inspection: (9:30)
Slickness Test: (15:09)
Hydrophobic Comparison: (16:57)
Sheet Comparison: (25:00)
Final Thoughts: (26:35) - Авто та транспорт
There is a fade out before the slickness test. I did not want to wait another 3 hours to process the video in the editor. But the test is not impacted.
As seen both coating coatings are very similar to each other in application and hydrophobic behavior. Gyeon Mohs Evo for me gets the edge in darkening and hydrophobic behavior. Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light gets the edge in slickness. Both good coatings but for me I like Gyeon Mohs Evo more than Gtechniq Crystal Serum Light.
Have any of you used both of these coatings?
Mike of the two which is better to use if applied outside (not in direct sun)?
Can’t help you there as I have a garage to apply coatings. I would choose Mohs for it’s overall better performance
@@MikeGDetailing I have at least have access to a carport so I can keep it covered for 24-48. Thanks!
Mohs vs SiC would be interesting.
Nice work man. I'm happy that I discovered your work on UA-cam. I use only CarPro and Gyeon, so I will be happy seeing more comparison of them in same categories of products.
Thanks. Much appreciated. I have to play catch up these next days. I have the new CarPro to showcase as well.
Excellent video 👍. Can’t wait for the Pure and UK video …
Thanks. Working on the hood sometime this week to prep it for these two.
Have used both. Mohs Evo gets the win! Crazy ease of application, water behavior, and gloss!
I am three months into Evo on my daily and I am happy with it. In your video EVO and CSL look almost identical it would be interesting to see how well CSL holds up.
I am a huge fan of the new gyeon evo coatings,recently i only use gyeon coatings, after watching your video I might try gtechnic ;)
GEYON MOHS for the win! I just got done ordering a 50mil bottle of it.✅ I’ve been hesitant to pull the trigger on either CSL or GEYON MOHS for a while now, but this video sealed the deal for me!
Thanks!
Great video/breakdown man.👌🏽
If you are planning on both of the additional ceramic layers to both of these iconic brands, especially looking at this comparison in mind- Syncro kit with Gyeon's ''Skin' or Gtechniq's CSL with 'EXO V5' which one is better? Secondly, would that change the outcome of your decision overall? based on both of these brands base layers AND their toppers? making if say, EXO V5 out performed Skin? would the toppers change your mind overall?
I'm happy with my Gyoeon Mohs Evo after 8 months. First ceramic coating experience so can't compare to anything. Application was too easy can't get it wrong, Flashes/Beads almost immediately in Houston TX weather. Still rinses dirt easy and beads great to this day. What are your thoughts on the Gyeon Bathe soap compared to Carpro Reset? I prefer the Gyeon myself. Seems to be more suds and slicker feel. Anything else to try out?
I like both shampoos. Reset cleans better for me.
Very nice duel, excellent review! 👍, I just would have liked maybe a before-after ptg measurement, and a before-after shine measurement, just for fun!. On the hydrophobic side, in my opinion gyeon mohs evo "sheets" a little faster, but very very subtle
Good idea with the paint gauge.
Great test, by looks the Mohs Evo has a slight edge. The sheeting test looked quicker.
I switched over Mohs Evo before installing CSL exo, water spots issue with simple rain and CSL is easy but if make a tiny mistake on the wipe off its not as forgiving as Mohs Evo. Price on Mohs is better in my area as well. 1 layer is very attractive I'm done with multiple steps coatings. Cheers
Tried Gyeon mohs on a customer car after years of doing CSL & Evo installs (Gtechniq installer). It's leaps and bounds improved over their original formula. I remember putting 3 layers of the stuff only for the hydrophobics to be gone in 12+ months. Also I remember the water spotting issues. Was the reason I stopped installing Gyeon coatings. I've tried both Cancoat Evo and Mohs Evo and have nothing but good things to say. However these days I'm more inclined towards single coating applications.
I know exactly how you feel. Single layer coatings are where it’s at for me as well.
Hi I have used gyeon mohs evo for car about 6 months very pleased with the results. Dirt repelancy is excelent evan on my white Mazda.
Would have liked before and after results to compare, how much of an effect do you think appling more of the csl has effected the results.
Regards Andy
Thanks Andy. I never tried it by Gtechniq states that CSL won’t bind to itself. I have not polished these off yet so I may be able to add another layer and see what CSL does.
Mike I watched this again. Now that I've had Mohs on for a few months. I read a few times that you use more with Mohs than CSL. Do you find that? Essentially 30mil of CSL is 50mil of Mohs. Any truth to that?
Very well demonstrated test, ive always leant towards gtechniq products as ive felt theyve lasted longer. That said i could definitely be converted for price alone
If i could be critical CSL really is designed for an exo top coat, be very interested to see a matchup on the full coating systems along with thier post wash performance
both seem great.... I slightly favor the slickness for CSL
I have Mohs Evo for 9 months on a white Mazda CX5. Still behaves like new! Used de ceramic detailer from Gyeon twice to maintain. Hydrophobicity is still like new. Paint stays slick and very easy to clean. Used cquk 3.0 before this (1,5 years) and the degraded to fast for me. Mohs Evo is way better for me and applying it in one layer was a breeze compared tot the cquk 3.0.
thank u for amazing video, but seems Gyeon has better sheet rate and better hydrophobic, realy wanna see chemical test
Where is the other video comparing Pure Evo to Cquartz?
I put CSL on my moms car about 6 months ago and the water behavior is already significantly impacted on the lower panels. What do you recommend for decon? I’m hesitant to go in too heavy because I tried CarPro Spotless to remove some water spots and it completely removed the coating in one spot, so I had to re prep and reapply
Give the 3 pH wash a try and see if it revives it. Labocosmetica has a good video on their channel on how to do it. You can do the same with CarPro products. Invest in Lift, Reset and Descale.
Foam with Lift. You can mix it a little stronger for the lower areas and pre-spray
Rinse
Foam with Descale
Wash with Reset
Rinse
Iron Remover
Rinse
Top up if needed with the topper of your choice
Mohs versus Carpro SiC. Which one would you want on your car? I'm leaning toward SiC for the slickness and contact angle but I currently have Can Coat EVO on the car.
If those two aspects is what you’re looking for then get SiC. SiC can be tricky with the long flash times. Mohs will sweat but has a shorter flash time. CanCoat will have to be polished off.
Nice comparison
When are you doing the Gyeon Pure Evo vs Carpro CQUK3.0? Thanks
Gtechniq, Carpro, Gyeon, you really can't go wrong with these ceramic coatings, they all preform very well.
Hey @Mike G , what's the brand of that hose nozzle you're using @18:00? If you got a link, that would be awesome. Thanks!
It’s this one. Solid brass and pretty stout. With the money
www.eleyhosereels.com/products/garden-hose-spray-nozzle-sets
Any long term update?
Hello, can i reuse microfiber towels after i used gyeon mohs? i put it after application into warm wather with APC, then wash it. Thanks :) Happy new year.
Happy New Year. Use those towels for other areas like door jambs. The towels will become hydrophobic and not absorb water that well.
Have you tried applying mohs evo on glass surfaces? I'm about to coat my car and I wonder if I can also coat the sunroof glass with it
Sure you can use it in any glass surface other than the front glass.
I’ve used CSL on a couple vehicles in the past. Last fall I coated my F150 with Pure Evo and I’m really happy with it. I probably have enough left to do my 330i, but I’m leaning towards Mohs Evo just for the sake of trying another product while staying within the same brand.
Both Pure and Mohs are very good. I actually prefer Mohs Evo after using both. I say gift it a try.
Mohs EVO on my daily driven car for 7 months now (circa 15-16k kilometers, that is something like 10k miles)... Car lives outside, bird poops, dirty rains, pretty average maintenance (I use exclusively Gyeon products on my vehicle, but sometimes I washed car after 5-6 days, sometimes after month and a half)... Coating is still same as the first day, EXCEPT in the middle of my hood/bonnet, but that is because my cats sleep there (because of heat of course), and they rubbed it off (so cats 1:0 Mohs EVO haha)... Very smooth application (it was easier for me than any wax I used), and great slickness...
Next up for me will probably be Pure EVO on my new (new to me), car that I just got...
That’s funny about the cat. Mohs Evo is good.
Pure stands in a lower position if we are to compare with mohs.
Which one do you recommend for mobile detailer? If we do them in sunlight
That is going to be hard to answer as most coatings are not sunlight friendly. It would be best to find some shade to apply them. Gyeon coatings are outdoor friendly with the caveat to top them with Gyeon Cure. Gyeon also has their Flash coating that is available to mobile detailers. I don't know what it takes to be authorized to install it.
If you do use one in direct sun the flash times will be fast as the panel is hot.
Have done several tests and Gyeon Mohs Evo lasts much longer time.
Than CQUK 3.0?
Hello, nice video...but i want to see real chemical resistence like Car Pro Multi X, because i saw some test Exo died before Gyeon Pure(both are 2 years durability), don't know about CSL or Ultra Gtechniq.
How do you think CarPro cquarts compares to mohs evo in regarded to sheeting/hydroponic and looks? Thanks for your review on these coatings
Edit- also on the fence about trying shine supply beedlock pro and marine pro combo as well. I can’t decide between mohs evo, uk3.0, and beedlock. What’s your thoughts?
For me UK 3.0 checks all the boxes and is still my go to coating. Mohs Evo is a good option and Gyeon got this one right and I would have this as #2 from the coatings you asked about. Mohs will be slicker than both UK and Beadlock.
Beadlock is a good coating as well. Not as durable as UK from my testing but overall it is good. I have not used the marine combo.
UK will be more hydrophobic and have tighter water beading. Sheet rate is about the same as Mohs Evo. Mohs did a better job repelling soap when I use the pump foamer to and add soap to the surface.
@@MikeGDetailing thank you mike. Big fan of the channel
What hose setup/system is this? I really like the shower head pattern and flow! Is it pressurized system?
Standard garden hose.
www.eleyhosereels.com/products/garden-hose-spray-nozzle-sets
@Mike G Thank you
Like to see Mohs vs Car Pros SiC. I wonder which one has the most slickness?
SiC is the slicker of the two.
What would you say between the combo coatings? GTechniq CSL + EXO V5 vs Gyeon Mohs Evo + Skin?
Based on my experience using both combinations I would just go with Mohs Evo as a stand alone.
@@MikeGDetailing Problem is the constant water spotting if you live in rain prone areas. At least that's been my experience with other bare ceramic coatings, without any toppers or graphene.
@@BigBear-- I am not a fan of Gtechniq coatings. I do not think they are that great. Sure they are easy to work with but their overall performance is rather lackluster for me. I like my coatings to be hydrophobic and this is where Crystal Serum Light comes up short. It tends to sheet more than bead. Perhaps this is what you are looking for in your area for a coating to not have that tight water beading. In order to get that water beading, Exo has to be applied. I have not used V5 and I do not plan to. V3 was good and V4 was not good.
Gyeon Synchro Evo is better than the previous version but Skin Evo still falls short in its overall performance. And yes it takes away from the slickness of Mohs but slickness is not that important to everyone. Mohs Evo by itself performs better than Syncro. You can always top it with something like Gyeon ceramic detailer or Cure.
If you want to stay within the Gyeon family then Gyeon themselves states Pure to have better resistance to water spotting.
Another coating to consider is Cquartz SiC as that has better resistance to water spotting than Uk per CarPro. UK topped with SiC is a great combination.
As you stated you an always go the graphene route with something like the Adams Advanced, DIY Detail 3 year Graphene.
Me personally I have moved away from multi-layer coatings and have moved onto single layer applications.
@@MikeGDetailing Great, this is the info I was looking for. How to you feel about CarPro Gliss? I only ask as I already have a new bottle of Gliss sitting around since our move and haven't had a chance to apply it. I also have like 5 x 30ml kits of Avalon King Armor Shield IX. I was originally planning on using Armor Shield topped with Carpro Gliss. But now considering maybe CQ 3.0 UK, topped with Gliss. It's not about the money for me so much, as I have other cars I can throw these coatings on, that are my families cars. For me however I care about overall performance from a DIY coating (these will be applied to my Boost Blue 2023 Civic Type-R). Have you tried Gliss? Which combo for CarPro would you go with? CQ 3.0 + Gliss, or SiC + Gliss? Or is there something else you'd recommend?
@@MikeGDetailing Sorry I forgot you mention CQ 3.0 topped with SiC. Would that be better than CQ 3.0 topped with Gliss?
Can you put one year update video, thanks
I never intended this to be a torture test or yearly update. It’s been polished off for a very long time. The purpose of this video was to show the differences and similarities of the coatings. Gyeon targeted Mohs Evo to be a competitor to CSL.
Great job, Mike! While not quite as easy to use as both of these, I find UK 3.0 better in every other way.
Agreed. UK is better than these two.
@@MikeGDetailing CqUk 3.0 is 100% not better than mohs evo 😳🤣🤣
@@davida7713 without a doubt, 3.0 is better for sure. It’s “harder”, more hydrophobic and more durable.
@@davida7713 for me it is. I’ve used it many times. I like what Gyeon did with Mohs Evo because the first version was not good. But CQUK 3.0 for me is better than Gyeon Mohs Evo.
@@orthodox1717 how is it more durable . CqUk is 18-24 months with 2 layers . Mohs evo is 3 years with 1 layer . 🤡
on average how long should you let CSL to flash?
As soon as you see it doing the sweating effect it is time to wipe off.
What hose gun are you using?
It is this one from Eley.
www.eleyhosereels.com/products/garden-hose-spray-nozzle-sets?variant=31870837424199
No update???😢
I never intended this to be a torture test or an update. Just sharing the similarities and differences between these two products with Gyeon marketing Mohs as a competitor to CSL.
No comparison for me mohs evo any day of the week. CSL goes flat way to fast for me.
So similar
How about adams graphene adv
Hmm good idea to compare both Adams graphene coatings. Their advanced version is the better of the two graphene coatings.
Way more clarity with gyeon
Gyeon mohs evo is much better than gtechniq csl . Looks gloss water behaviour . Thro gyeon mohs evo durability is piss poor as it failed at 9 months on my own car . Both coatings I would simply avoid
@@connoisseurdetail nothing amazing with gtechniq csl . Water behaviour for a start is shocking …
@@connoisseurdetail I think you need to use them again 😂🤣🤣
@@connoisseurdetail many have tested both & mohs evo is streets ahead of csl . 9h or not it’s a old coating now & has awful water behaviour & if u can’t see that then ur a disillusional gtechniq fan boy . 🤡
@@connoisseurdetail 9 years of detailing and you talking about 3h and 9h hardness 😅 that's only commercial .
@biggiemk6785 dude stop !Hardness is the crucial parameter in understanding the structural stability of a material you use, whether it in the form of a coating or a solid mass. Specifically, hardness is the relative measure of superficial physical strength of solid material when external mechanical force is applied, not everyone would follow this so you speak in terms of "h" so you don't look like a dick 🤔 🫡
Just helped me make the decision to go with Mohs.
Glad it helped. You will be happy with Mohs.
As a single coating, Mohs Evo is better. However with CSL and EXO, i’ve found it to be slicker and glossier than Gyeon Mohs Evo + Skin (Synchro)
Was that with EXO V4 ot V5? I'm curious cause i'm currently debating between CSL + EXO V5 vs Gyeon Mohs Evo + Skin vs Carpro CQ3.0 UK + Gliss.
Oh, and either of those 3 options are going on a 2023 Boost Blue Civic Type-R.
@@BigBear-- Exo V4 and V5. V5 is easier since it’s just one coat. I haven’t used UK3.0, but i think either of those 2 would be better than the synchro. It’s just not very slick compared to CSL and Exo. I used Carpro dlux + gliss on my wheels, and gliss made it very slick. So i’m guessing it will be comparable to CSL + EXO.
@@wolfusa2002 it's just weird to me that Pan the Organizers named the Synchro combo best of 2023, over CSL + V5, and CQ3.0 + Gliss.
@@wolfusa2002 By weird I mean, why would he say it's better than, if it's really not.
Just put csl for the second time. In a couple years I’ll have to try geyeon
Nice vid by the way
@@kingranch8516 thanks. You will like Mohs when you try it. It’s better than CSL
Are these products made in the USA?
No they are not. Cquartz is made in Korea and Gtechniq in the UK
@@MikeGDetailing Be a "Patriot"
@@hartlanddetailer5670 🙄
I installed MOHs Evo end of July, covered about 7-8k miles since.
Water behaviour is not as good as the first few months. Beading is still nice and tight. But the water used to clear off the car whilst driving, so the car would be dry after driving in the rain, now it hangs around.Gyeon Trim on the lower of the car is pretty dead after the same time.
Gave it a wash with Reset/Descale a few weeks ago and Restart and Iron this week. Hasn’t really made it any better.
Application was spot on, after polishing, cleaned with Feynlab Pure Rinseless and Gyeon Prep. Car didn’t get wet for two weeks after application. No water spots really from what I could see prior to descale.
I expect it will be pretty dead after UK winter.
Will try a CarPro coating next year, and will transition all my Gyeon stuff over to CarPro as I use them up. Too much marketing and under delivering from Gyeon.
That's not how Mohs is supposed to be installed (cross pattern).
ua-cam.com/video/oimBeG3NB1g/v-deo.html
Best comparison? Put them on a real car, drive it thru and there you go 😊
Geon món seem better