GLOCK 44 vs. SIG P322
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- Опубліковано 12 тра 2022
- Both the Glock 44 and the Sig P322 are fairly new to the market and both serve the same purpose, to fill the .22 lr market. I'm honestly surprised that these firearms haven't existed for much longer but better late than never! In this video I go over these firearms from a birds eye view and compare them so that you know what to expect.
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I own multiple Glocks but went with the Sig for the 22LR. Fiber optic sights, trigger shoe replacement, suppressor adapter, and 20 round mags all in the box. And red dot ready.
I own both. You made the 100% right choice on the sig
There's a company on eBay that makes and sells an aluminum trigger that can provide a stouter trigger pull for the Sig.
Sig's also sexier. Don't forget it looks much better than Glocks.
A great review of both! Thank you so much for your simplicity. It makes learning about firearms so much more fun. I’ve been an instructor for several years and your techniques are being emulated. Thank you Lenny!
Is it just me or is he trying way too hard internally to not admit that the Sig is better?
Well he does own the Glock store lol
he made 3 points that are detrimants to G44 sound like they are attributes to the G44. The grip angle is not intuitive to glocks, the 1911 as he referenced is the better intuitive pointing firearm. 2. The Glock trigger which is the crapiest trigger out there and especially compared to the sig trigger. 3. Height over boar in a .22 is neglible, it's a .22 for god sake. The 20 round capacity mags for the Sig were only briefly mentioned. He should have just come out and done a review on the G44 only...
@@TedHernandezIII agreed lol
Yes, the fact that he brought up bore axis on a .22 is laughable.
So… you’re watching a Glock Store video and surprised they are Glock biased? SMH
Very nice review. I carry the G19 My G44 has been outstanding as well. Mine feeds great runs bulk pack with no problems. It has allowed me to shoot way more.
I start my range training with my G44. The G44 works like the other 2 Glocks I own, Perfectly!
Good review, I moved over to Glock's from "metal guns" 20 + years back, have not been sold (fan) on Sig until the 320s. I've been looking for a new 22LR pistol for last few years, checked on G44 but magazine capacity and questionable reliability has been my holdout reasons. My Ruger MK2 is getting long in tooth. So I'm glad to see a review by a non-Sig fan boy or shill.
I prefer no manual safety myself. Being a glock owner I like knowing my weapon is ready when I'm ready and that you don't have the added delay or modified training routine. Love the SIG too. But would be interesting choice as to use case.
Great review! Thank you!
I owned a 44. I never liked the the 2 finger pieces to break down the gun. As you mentioned the trigger can get your finger raw. I used my 44 for plinking. It was a nice gun and shot well. As soon as I saw the reviews on the Sig I put my 44 up for sale. It sold in about 3 or 4 weeks for almost what I paid for it 6 months ago. I’m waiting for my dealer to get a P322 in. He knows its sold! I love the way it breaks down so easily. Just like my Bersa Thunder. I also like that it has 20+1 and it is optic ready. Not sure if I’ll go with the Sig Romeo Elite or the Holosun 407K X2.
I should mention I have a P365 that I love and the 44 was the first Glock I have owned.
You never mentioned that the Glock 19 and 44 use the same holsters and mag pouches.
Not picking on you buddy but you failed to mention that the Sig has a fluted barrel which keeps the weapon much cooler even with shooting 20 or more rounds. You can also dry fire the Sig as much as you want without damaging it. It's also setup for a suppressor. The threaded kit comes with it. My money's on Sig.
Very nice and honest review.....I carry a Sig 365 with an external safety, this sig will be a nice training firearm.
i put the johnny glock 44 trigger kit in mine and it is sweet. also the nelson precision slide and their guide rod. sig did all of that right out of the gate. glocks are reliable but the lack in customer service and listening to what the users want is behind all the other companies.
Great presentation Lenny. However you neglected the fact that the Sig comes with a threaded CAN adapter.
Probably because he would have to tell everyone it’s another $175 for a threaded barrel for the Glock lol
Thread adapters are wack. Just get a threaded barrel.
Please tell who is making the recoil spring for the Glock 43x to put the washer on the right way
I believe I asked before but I work not far from your Nashville store, does the time flip on having my slide cut for my optic become any faster than mailing it in? I don’t mean the travel time for mailing the parts in but, since I can drop the slide and optic off in person any ideas on the turn around time? Will the time still be 5 days or will it be sooner? Thank you for your time and also thank you for moving to Tennessee
Our turn around time is currently 10 days or less for all slides and that starts counting down once we receive the slide, brought in or shipped. Thank you for the question!
just bought the Sig and it feels so much better in my hand than my G19 I just luv it! Not to mention how ultra light it is ,the ambi safety ,and 20 rd easy load mags! just go to the shop and wrap your paw around a sig p322 and you will be reaching for a pen to fill out the govt. over reach form to buy one! You can actually drop the sig in the pocket of your farmer johns and forget you are going heeled!
My G44 has been flawless during the first 500 rds!!
I'm liking these new 22 LR handguns coming out. I've been most interested in picking up the FN 502 in comparison to these two even though I own a few P320s. I own a Ruger SR22 and that gun has been great for just plinking. I'd like to get a more similar feel gun that I can also put a red dot on it. From the reviews I've seen the FN is more reliable than the P322 when it comes to ammo so that is why I like that one since it can legitimately be used effectively with sub sonic ammo.
Great videos as always - I really wanted to like the g44 - but they need to come up with an updated MOS version that allows a bigger mag, optics and better sights. Sure I can get 3rd party extended mags, put in a better trigger, add some fiber sights....then I've got many of the features of the SIG but I'm $1,000 into it and I still can't put on a Holosun red dot like I can on the sig.
I prefer Glocks in general too but I have to go P322 which also means putting my G45 down and finding a P320x to align training and use like you talked about Lenny.
I have a Glock 44 and I have changed the trigger and the sights. I would love to see a tungston guide rod for the Glock 44. I want to add more weight to it. Does Glock Store have anything like this or any plans to have parts for the 44 in the future.
I own both Glock and Sig center fire pistols. Makes me work harder and improves my IDPA times. Considering all the barrel issues Sig 322 owners are reporting
If .22 has negligible recoil, being closer to the bore is kinda moot... Plus I'll take 20 shots all day in the magazine... With how small the bullets are I still don't understand (except for feeding issues due to the rim... With technology you'd think they'd have figured that out by now) why makers are STILL making these low cap 7-10 shot magazines for pistols... Makes sense to sell em in restricted states but other than that? Unless I'm missing something which admittedly I may have since I haven't shot a .22 since I was a kid
Clean the gun prior to firing, break it in with 40 grain CCI Mini Mags or Aguila. Avoid the lead bullets. Don't overlube the gun. Feed the rounds properly and you should have a great experience.
thanks to the grip force adapters i now like my glocks grip angle and it is close to my sigs.
I love Glock... I carry one every day. In fact, I own 19 of them, of which 2 of those are 44s.
That said... The 44 doesn't hold a candle to the p322. Leaving the factory with a threaded barrel, and 20 round magazines, it was eating Glock's lunch on the train in to town.
At this point, Glock should feel bad for the 44 still being on the market.
But I'm sure you list mist of them in that darn boat trip right.. wink
Listen I admit I am new to guns and this may be an ignorant question but why would you own two of the same gun let alone so many Glocks that are a lot of them are alike. I mean I have the 43x and I love it but the next gun I buy is going to be something that's not a Glock
@@darkhorse1989 I own two, cause I'm not the only person in my house that shoots... but if I only owned a few guns, I probably wouldn't own a bunch of Glocks... But I own a LOT of guns, way more than the number of Glocks I own, and now I buy the brand I like.
What brand shoe do you wear? Do you buy a different brand every time? Or do you buy a brand you like? Kind of the same scenario. People like what they like...
If you can't understand that, then you don't own enough guns ...and haven't bought enough shoes.
@joeytomato your right I don't own a bunch of guns yet but like I said I just bought my first glock 43x (love it) and taking classes and spending time on the range. Nothing personal bud just wondering. Thanks
My G44 eats any ammo I put in it. Has never malfunctioned. Would be great to see some performance stuff for it!!!
I have a 44 the slide pull weight is very heavy, do not like it one bit. My Taurus Tx 22 is a much better firearm
A question about the holosun scs.....for my Glock that is in my bedside safe what would be the other choices that aren't solar?
I got a Sig P322. It didn't work. 3 types of ammo, Winchester Super X, Remington Golden bullet and CCI Minimags. Failure to feed, stovepipes and light hits. One magazine didn't work, the rounds stuck below the level of the lips. It went back to Sig the day I got it. Got it back about a week later with a whole list of stuff that got replaced or adjusted.
Now, it sort of works. I got twom more different types of ammo, Aguila and Federal. I loaded it super carefully, making sure that every round went in at exactly the correct angle. I average at least one or two malfunctions per magazine. Usually a failure to feed, the occasional stovepipe.or the occasional light hit.
I got it because it was cut for a Red Dot Sight and I put a Holosun 507on it. Still haven't zero'd the sight, every time I decide the pistol is ready to zero, the damn thing starts jamming again.
Would not recommend the Sig P322.
My g-44 has been perfect, bought in 2024, over 200 rounds, loves aguila, cci and federal so far
My Glock 44 has run flawless from day one, Including the 18 round Pro Mags (just run it wetter than a normal Glock). My Sig P322 has been a jam-o-matic. I have yet to get a full mag (200 rounds so far) without a jam no matter how carefully I load the mags. Thankfully no leading in the barrel yet as others have had problems with.
I've run right around 200 rounds through my SIG P322 and I had only one stovepipe and one jam (using CCI 22 Mini Mags). When I tried firing it the first time, I tried to manually cycle a round into the chamber (like I do with my Ruger 10/22 and S&W 22 Victory) and it got hung up. But, I found out, if you lock the slide back and slap in a fully loaded magazine into the handle, the slide closes automatically and a round loads in just fine. Might have been user magazine loading error or something else... dunno. But I can trust my P322 will fire when I pull the trigger, as it ran almost flawlessly the entire time I was testing it out... unlike my Kel-Tec PMR-30, which was absolutely WORTHLESS! It jammed every other shot! Horrible design flaw... but for a mere $400, you can get parts/installation that will make it run like it SHOULD run, out of the box! But... the gun isn't worth that much, even if it ran flawlessly out of the box, to begin with! So I sold it (with two other functionally useless guns) and got the Sig Sauer P322 in trade, plus some extra cash! Not regretting it one iota, so far! 😀
Will you guys carry the new FM-9 hybrid lower?
Just got the 322 yesterday and have not fired it yet! I have 19 gen 5 and love it. I also have a 2 320s and a 365 XL. The 322 feels like a slightly larger version grip wise that the XL. I think Glock missed out on the opportunity to make the 44 a great practice weapon by the limited mag. Both are great but the SIG has better bells and whistles.
where you buy it?
Gun Broker and if you look there are stores selling them from 399.00 - 479.00. The. There are people trying to sell theirs for 650 and more. It is fun to shoot and practice with but it is still just a .22LR..
Great video, thank you
Even while TRYING to sell the Glock... you made most people make think the Sig is WAY better...
Thanks. God Bless.
I have the G44, G19 Gen 5, and G17 Gen 4. I have the Advantage Arms 22lr conversion for the G19 and G17. The Advantage Arms kit is around $275 out the door. Much higher quality than the G44. I recommend it for any Glock owner who wants to shoot 22lr ammo!
My G44 has been great. I've ran cheap bulk ammo through it with no problems. I got two 18rnd mags for it and it ran great.
Purchased a Glock 44 as a favor to a friend. Needed money. Never liked Glock. But after shooting several thousands of rounds through it I liked it so much I bought another one. Friend bought hers back lol. Only issues I’ve had are feed issues from Promag 25 round mags. I also have 18 round mags and they feed as designed. Trigger job is recommended. Other than that it shoots really good. Was looking at buying the Sig P322 as well but FN 502 grabbed my eye. Especially with the P322 leading issue.
Lenny M should do reviews more often. He makes me want to buy every single item he introduces in his videos.
Go ahead and pass up buying the Glock 44 though. It doesn’t hold a candle to other .22 LR pistols considering the price.
I'll keep my Taurus tx 22 for now. Sig thanks for making another .22 for the market! Help bring down the $$! 🤙🏼🇺🇲 My edc is a 43x, definitely not a Glock hater
As big as that Glock is somebody needs to ask them where is the ammo capacity? And yes they can say it is because it’s a trainer for the other options. I call bull crap on that a 22 is a firearm and it is just as deadly as any other firearm, and it should be just its own firearm as opposed to everybody, saying it’s a trainer.
thanks a lot for the good comparison... so only very good argument for the SIG is the 20r magazin and the trigger force... the magazin is - I guess - related to europaen law, but surely can be modified 😀, the trigger you mentioned can be changed... so best choice seems to be the Glock for me...
I’ve got them both and they are very fine guns but they are out classed when compared to the FN502 which actually feels like a real combat handgun
Liar.
Sig will always beat a glock in comfort. I have both and my sig p229 feels great, my glock feels like holding onto a 2x4 lumber.
Every .22 is "comfortable". I can't imagine such an anemic round causing discomfort.
My son is getting my wife's Glock .45, but it feels huge in my hand, vs. my son's S&W M&P, which feels nice in my hand. I'll never own a gun bigger than a .22 cal, as I do not like the recoil and loudness of larger caliber/powder load guns. But I absolutely love my SIG P322... feels great in my hand!
Armory Craft, a company on eBay, sells an aluminum, flat trigger for the Sig P322 that gives it a better trigger pull. There's also an installation video here, on UA-cam, that explains it better. I intend on getting a Sig Sauer P322 next year.
sig is suppressor ready, +$150? for a threaded glock barrel?
Thanks for keeping it real 👍
Hey Lenny, I never learned to ride a two wheel bike with Training Wheels and I never had to Train with a 22 before I shot the Larger Caliber Hand Guns! In my Entire Shooting Life, I never met anyone that said, "I had to learn to shoot a 22 before I could shoot my 9mm"! IMO, It's all a bunch of BS and those of us Experienced Shooters, Know Better! Having said all this, I must say that I own and now shoot only 22LR/22Mag Guns! At my age of 79, I can no longer handle the larger caliber guns because of Nerve Damage in my Hands, so I had to adjust my shooting to the small caliber Guns. I can now shoot just as good or better with these guns and I have more fun at my LGR! In closing, I would like to say that I Do Carry as my EDC a 22LR Gun with a 16 round magazine and I also, at times, carry a 22Mag pistol with a 30 round mag! Not a Problem for Me! There are Many Reasons why Shooters love to shoot the small Caliber guns But To use for Training, IMO, not a good Idea!
hello, can you tell what difference is between Ausrian made glock and USA made ones, and which one is better? thank you beforehand
One has a tariff built into the price, the other does not.
Absolutely love my G44. It gets a lot of use because everyone in my family loves to shoot it. Not one one failure, just wish it held more rounds.
the armory craft adjustable aluminum trigger shoe for the sig makes the trigger feel way better than the stock polymer shoe.
where'd you get the FDE 44 though? Dang, they should be making that one. I've got 2500 through mine, yes, there are malfunctions, but mainly with anything that isn't 40 gr. Other than that and after the first few hundred the accuracy and reliability has settled in. I still am thinking the p322 looks good too
My g 44 has approx 3000 rounds put threw it now,, I had to bend the shell ejector slightly and now performs flawless, but some cheap ammo doesn't run well
My Walther made m&p 22 has been flawless for years now.
Just doesn't like cheap ammo.
The 322 reminds me of my M&P full size 22 as far as takedown and fixed barrel. Even the adjustable iron sights are similar. Not to mention the threaded barrel design is the same also. I just bought the threaded 1/2X28 adapter for my M&P as I have my first suppressor being processed.
Always enjoy Lenny’s videos. His voice will draw you in like a mythical siren. I appreciate his unbiased review.
i was shocked when you said that sig has a 20 round mag i didnt expect that
Just wandering...Both can be safe dryfire? I was tought to never dry fire any rimfire gun?
Yes they are safe for dryfire! modern rim fire guns have improved by preventing the striker pin from ramming into the chamber which caused the damage in older .22 firearms.
Hey, where to get this glock 44 in coyote style. Never ever seen this colour in austria. Greets Clemens
You do realize every glock that's ever been made are just alike
TY.
Anyone buy one in the DFW area? if so where did you get it?
in a lot of your vid's it seems like you are able to rack the slide with two fingers and very little effort. do you put light spring on the guide rods for demonstration purposes or something? glock slides never seemed that easily manipulated to me.
I have a glock 22lr & it only had 2 ten round magazines, but then a new mag came for the glock 22lr & it holds 17 rounds.
FDE G44, sweet!
Let’s get this straight 13 round mags are not illegal in Illinois tried to buy mags you can’t sell I got a hellcat pro 15 round mag and flick 21 gen 4 13 round mag
Yes, the Sig is a nice gun - but it's a 22lr w/ blow-back design. At 500+ dollars it's just not worth it. G44 is in the 300 to 350 range and better @ giving new shooters experience w/ G26, G19 etc etc... for takedown, cleaning & training.
$399.99 at scheels!
Last year I bought the 22 conversion kit for my Clock 17 and my AR15 Definitely can go on practice more
Lenny! Do a video on the airsoft guns yall got! I saw them in the shop the other day and almost bought one!
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My P322 has been nothing but great. Glock needs to step it up. The sig comes with two 20 round mags and an optics cut. Far superior for training purposes than the Glock IMO.
Thx. Russ Dennis, I AGREE!
I've got a .45 Cal Sig but I really want one of these to put some CCI Stingers in 🤤
Still 20 to 10...been a glock guy my whole life shooting. Even Leo. Still would pick the sig for my boys.
How long before the. 22 ammo skyrockets?
22LR ammo skyrocketed with the rest of the AMMO. It still is over 12-cents a bang in most stores and online. 3-years ago, I could get 22LR for 4 or 5 cents per bang. I still remember buying it at 2-cents a bang 10-years ago.
@@GaryASobek I bought as much as I could at Walmart.
@@GaryASobek It's nuts. I bought it for 2.7 cents a round, shipped to my door in 2019. Bought twenty thousand rounds. Still have some. New it's 11-13 cents a round for the cheapest junk ammo. This is absurd pricing. It doesn't cost anywhere near as much as 9mm to make. It's honestly price gouging. The new normal.
He ignores completely the fact that the sig has two additional plates for the grip, drilled ready barrel for silencer and two options for the trigger (curve or flat). It’s obviously that the sig is 1,000 times better than the glock, it just that this man can’t admit the truth. I just don’t know how you make a comparison like this one without being objective. 🙄
I'm looking for another 22lr pistol.. love my mkiv's I have a smith a tx22 and a few others ..I've been holding off on glock 44.. but to comment on mag capacity it will cause you to swap mags more often.. practice makes perfect
So far (1 range trip) I actually prefer my Mark iv tactical to the 322. Might be the weight difference as the Mark iv is 33oz and the 322 is about 17 oz. So the 44 is lighter? No thanks.
You can always carry fewer rounds in a magazine if you want to practice reloads from slide lock. So, no advantage to Glock.
@@johnreacher3756 that's true too.. I know for years in target competition at least locally the pistol to have was the ruger mk 1,2,3 and 4.. they only held 10 rounds I think still do.. so ya more rounds is good but 10 is good too.. imo
The "cheapness" of the SIG P322 trigger, is the fact it's a removable "shoe", not a physical trigger. The physical trigger is a small metal barb like protrusion that the "shoe" clips onto. It comes with both straight and curved trigger shoes. I'm still learning my P322, so I don't care for one over the other (I haven't changed out the default straight one for the curved one yet, however). But the slightly flexible nature of the type of plastic they use is what you're undoubtedly feeling. But the significantly lighter trigger pull will mean you shouldn't notice it hardly, if at all. I know I don't.
There's a company on eBay that makes and sells an aluminum trigger for the Sig that gives a stronger, stouter trigger pull.
I only just saw your video or your Channel or you at all today. I liked the information very much and subscribed to your Channel. One of your points of interest was that the Glock was a great trainer but half the weight. I like Glock and have a couple but I thought you over looked that you criticize the p322 for not being as light and yet doesn't that make it a better trainer for the 320? If the Glock is a great trainer for the 19 but half the weight then maybe it's not as great a trainer. And if you're going to shoot 21 rounds pop pop in a row isn't more metal construction better? If you don't have to reload every 10 Rounds and let the gun cool off
I like both, but would rather have the Sig.
Why does the G44 mag only hold 10 rounds of 22, if it’s the same size of the G19 which holds 15 of the larger 9mm.
It seems feasible that a double stack G44 mag could hold more rounds of 22 than 15 in the G19. Plus the G44 is nearly $400 but with a 100% polymer frame and slide, plus only a 10 round mag, it could have been even cheaper.
There's a 3rd party that makes 18 round mags.
@@TK-mj9rd yep and they SUCK!!!
I wish it was easy to find a glock 44 in FDE
I have a lot of Glocks. But I have a P322. It’s the best 22 pistol I’ve owned.
That Glock will be the first gun for my kids.
Good for your kids! What a great simple sidearm for a youngster 🤙🏼🇺🇲
Rethink that!
@@billric1945 please explain! I’m somewhat new myself and would love some input! Thanks
I have to say my g44 is the biggest pos I ever bought. Sent it back to glock twice to overhaul it. They said first it’s the ammo but we will replace some internals. Second time “you must we weak wristing it” but here are some more parts. I just ordered the sig, really hope it will be more reliable
Amo is not cheap at all, and 150.00 dollars for 100 rounds is bull shit.
Lenny, Lenny, Lenny. Even when you’re trying your damnest to be impartial, you’re still a Glock fanboy and you still sell the Glock!
I never seen a Glock with a up and down adjustment on the sites
I own both brands so no bashing just an observation. The P322 is a hammer fired not a striker fired
What, actually, IS the functional/performance difference between them (hammer vs striker)?
When is Glock gonna make a 22lr in 42 size??
Sig relates more to the p365 x macro than the 320.
Lenny says I’m a glock guy lol we know .. lol
11:13 it's factory glock trigger they're all the same since glock came out many years ago.
The Sig is very accurate but after seeing all the videos on how reliable they are, my 322 must be a lemon. I get at least 4 to 6 failures to feed every session even with hundreds of rounds through it. I have yet to have any issue with the TX22. I don't own the Glock. My Beretta 87 and Neos will shoot all day without a failure.
When I first tried firing my P322, I tried to manually cycle a round into the chamber and it got hung up (wouldn't go in). Couldn't figure out why... my Ruger 10/22 and S&W 22 Victory work fine doing that, but... whatever. However, when I lock the slide open and slap a loaded magazine into the handle, the slide automatically closes and slips a round into the chamber with no issue. I've, otherwise, only had one stovepipe and one FTF in just under 200 rounds fired through my new gun. You might be having mag loading issues? Sure beats my Kel-Tec PMR-30 which was a pile of junk... no matter what I did, that pile of polymer junk would jam every other shot, I kid you not. TOTALLY unreliable! I loved everything else about it, except for that. And what good is a gun you can't trust to shoot, when you pull the trigger? But, oh... for $400 more, you can have it fixed by a 3rd party company, so it IS reliable! Ugh! I traded it in, at our local gun dealer, with two other useless, unreliable guns I had... for the P322 and $375 cash! Not regretting it one iota so far! 😀
@@Luposian I ended up sending mine into Sig under warranty and they turned it around in a week and it ran like a top then.
Somebody needs to buy Larry a trigger pull gauge that was invented after Lincoln went to Ford's Theatre.
I think its pretty cool No batteries to wear out. No technology to fail. I'd get one, if I had a reason for it.
sig has a better quality futures, It seems the care more about there customer than Glock. FYI
Hi Lenny, Great review. What ammo do you recommend for the Glock 44
.338 lapua
You can't go wrong with CCI Mini Mags 40 grain or Aguila. I personally would avoid lead bullets. It's been said to break in with high velocity and then try out 36 grain etc. I don't know if I will go below 40 grain personally. My range time is limited and prefer to just go bang then training instead of training on clearing jams.
@@paulcarlin5181 Thank you
You were doing a good job until you claimed Glock points more natural than a 1911 grip angle. Glock has earned its reputation with hard use and reliability but they need to start pushing innovation. They should never discontinue the traditional platform but they’re leaving a lot of meat on the bone with respect to innovating new weapon systems.
im not partial to either brands but the sig in this case is a way way better pistol
If a 22 is flipping in your hand you probably don’t need a gun.
Watch sig sauer’s sigp322’s video on how to load
They r great self defense weapons
Never thought I'd ever say a taurus was better than a glock but my tx22 is definitely better than the g44. In fact my kel tec p17 is also superior to the colossal let down that is the g44.
I have a G44, not a fan. When I trained my kids and girlfriend they did not like it either. When I go the range with friends no one want to shoot the G44.