Sig P322 | The Review of a Troublesome 22
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- Опубліковано 9 лип 2024
- This video is about the Sig P322. There are some good features, and some clear issues. It might be the pistol for you.....or maybe not.
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0:00 - Intro
0:56 - B-Roll
2:22 - Purpose
3:09 - Specs
4:17 - Slide & Barrel
7:46 - Optics
10:11 - Magazines
12:03 - Reliability
14:13 - Controls
15:30 - Trigger
16:52 - Conclusions
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I picked my p322 in April 2022 and have put over 3000 rounds through it and now its my trainer for my p365 x macro. The p322 and the x macro have the same grip but the p322 slide is slightly longer. They make it a fun day at the range!
I bought one, shot it regularly and still have had no issues that everyone is crying about. I must have been really lucky. I did have a few failures to feed when it was brand new but that resolved itself after a few mags.
Same. I've seen lots of bad reviews about barrel leading and I still took the chance and bought one. I've put 300-400 rounds through mine and no leading at all so I think we got lucky.
Same, i purchased one (manufacture date 12/13/2022) and have had zero issues. I cleaned and lubricated it new from box before shooting. I have only shot the CCI mini-mags which are copper coated lead and have checked the barrel several times and no leading as some report. I had a couple ftf at first and then started being more cautious when loading magazines and no problems since. I am very happy with mine and hope to install a Holosun 407k green dot on it soon
I have one that I bought a month and a half ago. Just sent it back to the factory yesterday. Barrel leaded the first time after about 300 rounds suppressed. I love the pistol, I have several other Sigs. I hope they get it right for me.
I couldn't get Remington subsonic copper jacket rounds to chamber at all
all the lead nose bullets chambered fine
This by far the most compressive review I have seen on the p322 thank you for making the great content!
Comprehensive
I find the number of negative reviews surprising. I got a P322 last Christmas and I absolutely love it. I only use Thunderbolt 22 because I have always had the best luck with that ammo. It's hot enough to cycle any 22 rifle or handgun and consistent enough to shoot a solid one inch group at 50 yards all day long. (from my experience) At first I had a few feeding issues but it was always due to the way I loaded the mag. But it didn't take long at all before I figured out the correct way to load the mag and was loading it as fast as any other 22 mag and it works great. I'm rough with my guns, they get dirty, wet, covered in mud, ect. But I always do a deep clean when I get home after camping trips where they see all the elements for an extended time, disassemble the firearms completely and thoroughly clean them. I've now put close to 2000 rounds through my P322 and have nothing but great things to say about it. If you're considering getting one, do it. It's great, just take the time to make sure that you're loading the magazine correctly and you'll be fine. Take care of your firearms and they'll work and last forever.
Your reviews are sooooo good. Thank you!
My 322 ran fine and actually a great practice piece when paired with the Macro due to similar grip size.
thanks for the content.
I like the quality of your videos, the lighting, editing and cadence of it all is great thank you!
Great review! Had this one on my wish list but think I’ll wait a bit.
Why wait? Just run CCI ammo, you don’t want to use the cheap shit anyway. Make sure you seat your rounds properly, meaning don’t pull the follower all the way down then dump the bullets in the mag. Don’t ride the slide with your thumb. Keep it clean…give it a light cleaning after every 500-1000 rounds. It should run like a champ for you!
FYI, I whacked the hell out of the butt of the gun while the slide was open and it never once went into battery.
Great comprehensive review. I hope SIG does address the shortcomings to give us another great .22lr pistol to choose from.
good review. you are very thorough
Wow, you did a very good job with putting this video together. Much better than most gun vids.
Well now this was a interesting video and as far as my sig Sauer p322 goes, I have mainly only had the magazine issues in the beginning. I did have to learn how to properly load the magazines and that means you do not pull the follower down any further than you can just put one round in at a time let it back up put one more in and so forth, once I started doing that my magazines have worked almost flawlessly. As far as locking back on the last round fired I have been impressed with that part of the p322. I do know that you do not want to accidentally ride the slide with your thumb at all or this problem will exist for sure. The Red Dot sight that I have on top is a Holosun hs507kx2 and it has never came loose with blue loctite torque too 10 ft lb. I have probably fired a little over 2,000 rounds of all types of 22 LR ammo with no leading issues. I do know that there has been a lot of complaints on leading issues, I'm just glad for whatever the reason is that mine doesn't.
I bet you that’s exactly what he was doing during his testing of the Sig, he was riding the slide with his thumb or possibly had gloves on. Because of the fixed barrel and light associated spring, it is very easy to rack, which is a similar attribute to the Walther CCP 9mm. The barrel doesn’t have the strength to lock open if there is any other opposing force. It’s not a design error, it is a positive attribute of the firearm.
Thank you for an honest review.
I purchased my p322 in late August and have over 1200 rounds through it. No problems whatsoever. I have been shooting Remington Golden Bullets and Aguila Super Extras. I have had two failure to fire both with the Golden Boys. No fouling at all.
Steve, my gun light primer strikes about 4-5 Aguila 40 grain super extras per magazine. The 38 grain super extras not so. Are you having good function with the 40 grain or 38 grain, Or both? The magazines are weak link in the pistol for sure. Big Sig fan, own a few but this one has been a disappointment from day one. I'm trying to get a baseline on typical normal function before I send my gun back to Sig.
@@robertpagel8951 Robert, I am shooting the 38 grain Aguila. I shot another 200 rounds this past Sunday and did not have any issues. One thing that I think helps is to keep this gun clean. I am now field stripping the p322 and cleaning it after every use. It takes less than 10 minutes and I think it helps. I am using Shooter Lube.
You got lucky (or not unlucky). I have a hard rule of never buying a new design firearm within a year of launch. This is why. There are usually unforeseen issues that arise after releasing to the public and it generally gets worked out within a year.
Great review
Thank you for your honesty.
Great video!!!
Okay, I just bought one at Boise Cabellas yesterday. After seeing your issue with the slide locking back and going into battery by looking at it I thumped the bottom of the Sig hard repeatedly and it stayed open. Sounds like you got a lemon. However, that shouldn’t be the case…hardly ever.
I’ve always been careful loading my .22’s, so I’m not concerned about that. I have a Smith and Wesson 15-22 rifle that’s absolutely amazing. What made it go from great to greater was putting in an $18.00 Volquartsen ejector. No more failures to eject!
One thing you didn’t dwell on that’s a real plus is the fixed barrel, similar to the Walther CCP 2.0. Excellent accuracy from this design, not to mention ease take down.
I’m only going to use CCI ammo and I’m going to take care in loading my rounds. Hopefully it runs well for me.
This magazine isn’t an issue if you pay attention to how the rounds stack into it as you load it. Load one at a time with pressure on each and make sure the rounds stair stack. One on the left side, next on the right side, next round on the left, next on the right and so on. They should alternate like such. If there are two together on the same side, you’ll have an issue. It’s a double stack 22. Just pay attention.
Wow, common sense.
Who knew.
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2023 Same issues , I'm selling my 322 , i wish i seen your vid before buying , and yes loading the mags correctly helps . not reliable .
Agreed amigo, any double stacked mag with rimmed case will have loading challenges as the degree of stagger increases in order to get more capacity. I’ll pay attention loading to get 20-25 round capacity.
Ridiculous that owner has to hold mouth right for reliability!
Or you could spend your money on a firearm without this issue and never have to worry about it.
Great video
Good review! I just found your channel. Good photography music and editing! Good info too, actual info and experience, and not just repeating someone elses sales pitch.
I bought a P322 last year, and found it was unreliable. But, holding the mags upside down and loading them while keeping each round touching the next subsequent round prevents jamming issues. Mine came with the Romeo zero elite. Optic seems to last about a week if left on.
I haven't replaced the trigger yet with the adjustable one that removes the slack. I haven't carried this gun defensively. Pure range toy and higher maintenance than my Mosquito, P22 and M&P22
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HERE'S THE THING: The ONLY .22 load that caused leading of the barrel in my M&P 22 full-size (the one made by Walther in Germany, now discontinued) was the THUNDERBOLT, and I shoot a LOT of other non-plated loads. BAD lead build up... worst I've ever seen in a maintained firearm... after no more than 30 rounds (I was keeping a close eye on things during ammo testing). Note that I don't have a P322... yet. Wanted one as soon as I heard about them, but now I have to wonder. Of course, I usually DON'T HAVE or can find a workaround for the problems others complain about : )
And if the other load you're referring to is the "Golden Bullet", which is brass-plated, how could it POSSIBLY cause lead fouling, thus it may be a SOLUTION for P322s with fouling issues. Another option may be the poly-coated CCI "Clean 22", which I used to remove the final traces of fouling left by the Thunderbolts. Note that by "Clean", I think they mean with respect to lead fouling, since they leave AT LEAST as much powder residue as most loads. (EDIT: According to CCI: " ...an exclusive polymer bullet coating to greatly reduce copper and lead fouling in the barrel-without leaving a residue. It also cuts lead buildup in suppressors 60 to 80 percent." OK, cool, since it may also reduce the amount lead dust hitting you in the face, which can't be a bad thing)
EVEN CRAZIER, on the M&P 22, I have three mags which have been upgraded to 15-round capacity (and two still in the factory 12-round capacity), but this caused a lot of failure to chamber on the FOURTEENTH, i.e., the NEXT-TO-LAST round. The round would porpoise up, hanging the bullet on the sharp upper edge of the chamber. TURNS OUT, the Golden Bullet, with its harder BRASS plating, eliminates the problem, probably due to the harder-than-copper plating. Just as strangely, the 12-round mags have no problems feeding ANY decent .22 loads. I've now had problem-free runs over 300 rounds with both the 15-rounders loaded with Golden Bullets, and the 12-rounders loaded with a wide variety of ammo.
I do agree on the optics cut not having locators
Good review. Really good.
On the magazine's being odd to load, I find the G44 and the TX22 have problems loading. I always use loaders, printed for each of these guns. I make sure it's on a hard surface, your thigh works, but a table or bench is much better. Only drop it enough to put in one round, then lower, and raise. It becomes a natural motion after the first few hundred. Works fine after that.
Without that technique the Glock is terrible about nose diving, and the Taurus isn't good.
I can't shoot lead without the copper wash in either of these pistols as they clog quickly.
The TX is more reliable, though my G44 shows a fraction of the wear with twice the round count. I'm closing with eleven thousand rounds of cheap brand through the Glock and it works and looks like it did the first day.
The TX is getting old fast.
Both are very good guns.
Unlike the Smith Compact which failed badly by 3600 rounds. And not in the same universe as my ancient Ruger Mark which has something north of twenty thousand rounds through it.
I'm going to get a P322 soon, and I won't even use un washed lead.
Disappointing to hear about the Taurus wearing. Any issues or is it just cosmetic? I bought the Competition SCR to shoot competition and I’m a regular at a monthly rimfire practical match and occasionally hit up a steel challenge match so it’s going to get a lot of rounds through it quickly. It already came with a Tandemkross extractor that is supposed to last and I plan to add their striker as well because I hear the factory will break over time, even though it’s a lifetime warranty, it’s worth the insurance to not have a failure during a match.
Those have less capacity and are a lot less staggered. Here again they are stack sensitive yes but if your competent when loading, none of the others give you 20 or 25 capacity out of the box. A quantum leap for rimfire shooters, if you choose the better ammo and get the rims stair stacked.
remington copper jacket subsonic ammo jammed every single time I tried to load a round in my p322
I had to switch to lead nose rounds, which all worked fine.
I picked up a P322 as a trainer gun for my P320 X-Carry Legion. They are virtually the same size and controls. No it’s not exact and another holster is needed. I loved it so much I actually bought another one. Now we can have dueling targets drills without paying the 9mm round cost. Over 2000 rounds through both P322’s without failure.
What ammo brand are you using?
@@jasonthacker5926 for target we use CCI Target copper plated round nose. 40 grain 1200fps. Standard stuff.
Remington Thunderbolts were not reliable in mine. CCI performed very well. So far I really like my 322.
CCI mini-mags is all i have shot from mine so far and no issues so i will probably continue using those ... love the P322 so far
Good review. I am having the same problem with this pistol and let Sig know about it.
I had my 322 out on Sunday. Ran fine. Like many others have said there is a brief break in period for the mags.
I would like to be helpful in this review by stating my personal experience with this firearm. I’m just over 1550 rounds in my p322. First I’ll say zero failure to feed issues. The magazines are very specific to load and when done properly you will have no issues but that does mean loading slowly and ensuring that the rounds alternate properly in the stack. Sights well no upgrade at this point for me and the only issue I have is the rear sight will drop and need adjusted because of the way it cams around mine needing to be all the way up for my shooting. Barrel leading well hell yeah I had that something terrible, however what I noticed was that during the cycling of the rounds the sharpness of the feed ramp and chamber entrance scrapped small slivers of lead that may have been dragged down the barrel. 20 rounds of browning 22lr and I couldn’t see rifling in the last inch of barrel. Now the last 1400 rounds through the pistol have been nothing but cci mini mag target and no leading at all just dirty 22 lr normalcy. A few failure to fires like less than a dozen, caused by not going completely into battery which result in just a slightly lighter primer strike all from build up preventing the round to seat all the way. Can’t blame the gun because two hundred rounds makes it dirty simple wiping the chamber and slide after a few hundred stops this from being an issue.
Great comment. The issues you described are normal for 22lr (other than the barrel leading - that's just ridiculous). Funny thing though, I have a frickin Taurus TX22 that has eaten every cheap or top shelf ammo I fed it with nearly zero malfunctions and the trigger is excellent. I thought I just had a factory fluke but I have met alot of different folks at the range who have had similar good experiences with their TX22's. Taurus somehow made the best 22lr pistol on the market for under $300. Weird times
@@dilldowschwagginz2674 I'm looking at this one that's in the video and the TX22 only problem is I'm seeing a lot of people where the slide broke off where the guide rod is inserted. I know lakeline makes a recoil spring that's supposed to prevent it, but there was a video on UA-cam where a guy showed when his broke. It looked like it was hitting the frame. The frame was marred up. It sucks cuz like you said the TX 22 seems like it eats everything but I'm not willing to deal with their shitty customer service on my Wait a little longer and see what happens with the p322
No issues for me. Really like it.
Recently had an AD with the gun, safety on. Any other incidents being reported?
Love mine.
Mine has yet to lock back on the last round fired (about 1000 rounds) but surprisingly has fed and ejected all of them (if they went bang instead of click)
I bought this with the red dot installed but had no rear sight in the box. Anyone else by the red dot version and not have the plate or rear sight?
Thanks
Got mine in November. Had a few feeding issues, then I went to carefully loading with the magazine loading tool . And the first 500 hundred rounds its best to
Use high velocity Ammo . The sig is designed to be dry fired , no worries there . Also I could hear the recoil spring creaking when you racked the slide .
The barrel needs to have a drop or two oil on the spring bushing . In conclusion not a bad 22 pistol at all . Will it last as long as a ruger mark , who knows ?
I guess I'll have to wait another 15 years for a .22lr glock with an optics cut, threaded barrel and decent magazine capacity
Holy hells I'm glad I literally did not pull the trigger on this one. Subbed to check you out.
what holster did you find that fits it. It looks like you have one that allowed you to holster with your can on. I would like to know a normal holster and the one that allowed the can to be mounted and holstered
Trex arms sells one that you can use with a can and an X300. The other one I bought directly from Sig.
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Considering the cost difference, who chooses lead over fmj...and why?
Mine works Great! No problems ! 300 rounds new out of the box CCI and other ammo .
Can you make a review like this for the Fn 502?
WOW! I loved my Taurus TX22 .... until I got my SIG P322. 2000 rounds later and I love it even more. The only malfunctions have been ammo related (mostly Rem Golden Bullets FTF with multiple strikes).The Romeo Zero is a POS! Try the Riton 3 Tactix MPRD 2 Red Dot, it fits tight in the P322 optics cut and cost's $99.00 on Bereli.
Raised the price and out of stock, i was thinking about getting one for my P322 ... how do you like it so far?
10:51 after loading the mag.... turn it upside down & work the spring assist a few times.
feeding problems all but disappear.
Been looking to get my first decent 22 pistol. Really stuck between the TX22 competition, buckmark black and gold, or a mark iv. Also anyone interested in a Shield Plus performance center ported barrel with the red dot? Looking to connect with a buyer works out better for both involved. Has about 400 rounds on it
just got mine and i'm have a but load of litght primer strikes hopefully it'll like a new ammo brand
remington copper jacketed subsonic ammo would jam every time I tried to chamber a round.
lead nose ammo all worked fine, even though I still had some failures to fire.
I’m thinking there won’t be many issues with the 10 round mags?
Good honest review! Thank You. I've had my P322 for about a month, and 800 rounds later I have experienced all of the same problems in this video except the leading issue. Called Sig Customer Service, If I send it in and they don't find a faulty part, they will just send it back to me. And you have to be meticulous in loading the mags or you will jam nose up for sure. Should have bought a different 22LR pistol.
Same boat your in Dave. First range trip it was a jam o matic. Then I discovered the magazines are the weak link and you really have to baby the magazines while loading them. Also turns out my pistol is very picky on which ammo you can use for reliability. Nothing like the hype Sig made this rim fire pistol out to be.
Blue thread locker and torqued to spec is my go to for any optic. No offense but you have to load the rounds correctly in these magazines to avoid feeding issues. I believe the other issues are the result of the ammo. Lead fouling in a 22 would most likely be caused by to soft of a lead alloy. Rounds that don’t fire but have a good strike on the rim, again is an ammo issue. The lack of alignment aids for the red dot is disappointing but not a deal breaker. The slide lock issue could be a magazine, but if every magazine is doing it, it could be the slide lock itself. I would send it back to sig for that issue. All the other issues can be avoided or corrected.
I have 250 rds through mine.
Only problems were ammo. Struck hard....but a dud round.
Winchester 222 white box. I actually had 4 dud rounds. Saved them and put them in my rifle and they did not fire with a good primer rim strike.
Loading mags is easy but there is a process. Make sure they are alternating double stack. Easy peasy. I hold mine upside down after loading them. Tgen releasing pressure, little shake, window inspection....no problems feeding. If you cant load the mag properly.....you need training. Dont fault the weapon for your stupidity. I love it.
Its light, 20 rds, fairly decent trigger. But nothing really compares to my comp 1911 or walther p99.
Seems like ever weapon i own has a few negatives, but do the positives out weigh the negatives. Self defense? I prefer a 45 or 40, but you sure could swiss cheese and attacker. Plus, rim fire isnt reliable enough for self defense. Dud rounds and all😊
Due you, Tools and an other youtuber : All with bad barrels ...I passed on one.......Sig eventually said it be ALL fixed by Christmas 2022...Umm? 2023? My Tx and FN 502 works....It's nearly always ammo related....But this with the barrel and mags....I'll wait.
I tried Remington and Winchester and neither worked. The magazine spring is not pushing the nose high enough for it to feed. I will try CCI tomorrow, if it doesn't fix it, it's going back to Sig.
I noticed the people talking about the leading and missfires are saying the seen it posted somewhere . All the reviews complaining about the gun use hear say. Just look in comments of reviews of the p322 most of the people say they never had any problems. If they did it was user error. If you use cheap ammo and don't know how to load a magazine then it's on you. Never believe influencers videos. Do you own home work.
What about using loctite for that red dot?
Everyone says the tx22 is awesome but mine sucked and had to be returned twice for warranty work and it's still at Taurus. They've shot more ammunition through than I have.
Shot well over 1k rounds through my p322 with zero of the mentioned issues. If I'm remembering correctly I had five or so light primer strikes. Almost all my rounds used were not plated bear lead bullets. Shot tons of Federal Automatch and it just eats it up. At the end of the day its up for you to decide.
Do your "light primer strikes" actually look light? The ones i've had don't look light at all. I'm inclined to believe that the firing pin hits a touch toward the middle of the round.
@@sog4646 They don’t really look light. They are solid strikes to the rim. So apologies that would not necessarily mean “light”. I was trying to say .22lr is sometimes defective. I have taken the rounds that did not fire put them back in the p322, and they all fired once put through the gun a second time. When it comes to .22lr ammo the priming compound does not always collect in the rim effectively to cause ignition when struck causing said “light primer strike”. I hope that answered your question. If you have any more please let me know. Thank you.
@@alphacentary i've done the same. All but 1 fired when i tried them. It just seems hard to believe that 1 in 30-40 rounds are kinda duds. Makes me glad i still have 30+ yo ammo.
Does this new 22 ammo appear to smoke more that the older ammo?
@@sog4646 I don't have older ammo to compare more modern ammo to sadly. My oldest box of .22lr is 16 year old Remington Thunderbolts and they are about the same as always been between then and now.
However, I do know the amount of smoke depends on the round and brand. If the .22lr is lubed it will smoke a lot. Lead round nose .22lr will smoke some but not much, and I find plated smokes the least.
Each brand will smoke differently as well. I know CCI mini mags work well and do not smoke bad. I can vouch for Federal Automatch as that ammo is what I shoot the most of and its Lead Round nose that does not smoke bad either. However, personal experience has kept me away from Norma Tac-22 as it is lubed and smokes badly. keep in mind all my testing has been done on an outdoor range and is purely anecdotal.
I was thinking it was light but compared it too a pile of others brass cases and it was the bullets ,and had oiled places that I shouldn't have and suppressed was gummed up after 200 rounds not bad for cheap ammo and a suppressed oily gun .
It sounds like you got a broken gun. This review is essentially the opposite experience I have had with my 322. When loading the mags, you've got to use the included tool/ensure you are correctly double stacking the mags. When I first got it, I had an issue with the mags failing to feed- but this was user error due to my eager beaver attitude getting in front my my knowledge of how the mags are supposed to look. Keep in mind when you shoot this- you're dropping 20 LR rounds at a time. If you get a failure to feed/eject/other issue one in 10 mags, that's the equivalent of shooting 20 ten round capacity magazines with one issue.
Was shooting mine today. Tried winchester white box 222. Had all kinds of miss feeds. Did some testing.
cci works great almost all the time....99% efficiency.
Winchester would not cycle good at all. I took a look at tge actual ammo and compared.
CCI performed flawless. Not the magazine's fault or is it?
I took my caliper and started measuring rounds. The CCI was crazy almost every round was within .0005 tolerance at .09555. Length
The winchester was all over the place. .0945- .0968. Overall length
I loaded 18 of the winchester that were .0955-.0958.
No issues.
Plus the bullet tip was wider than the CCI.
I'm just gonna use CCI in it
I put 450 rounds through my new 322 without a single failure..first 100 mini mags 325 automatch..shot perfect
I was strongly considering the P322 but steered clear of it due to the barrel’s lead fouling issues and finicky mags. I went with the FN 502 Tactical and absolutely love it. No issues whatsoever from a round feeding/reliability and accuracy perspective. Only complaint I have is the suppressor height sights are blacked out and make it a bit difficult to aim with a red dot on dark colored targets, but that might be a personal preference/opinion kind of thing.
Planning on doing a review of the 502T sometime soon?
Great gun. I bought one a few months ago and it's been solid. I will say that it's comparable to my TX22 but the Taurus trigger is a little bit better.
Thanks for the review. Taurus here I come.
@Thetargetfocusedlife, you’ve been picked to get your ass kicked for spamming!
@@dilldowschwagginz2674 just got the Taurus TX22 COMPACT released earlier this month. So far it is fantastic and equal if not better than its big brother. It comes natively optics ready.
Is it better to buy Ruger Mark 4 then this plastic sound&looking sig 22 ?
Thank you for providing an honest review of this waste of money.
My wife told me to watch this video because she said your speech cadence, inflections, verbiage etc was so close to mine that it was like listening to someone imitating me even though our voices aren't pitched the same...
After watching this, I can see what she means but I probably would've cursed far more over the fouling issues, lol!
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Mine fits very well in a SW MP/SIGMA 9/40 blackhawk CQC holster.
C12223 i think
I called Sig about the slide not locking back after the last round and dropping when I slap a mag in and they said “it’s a feature of the P322”.
I wonder if all the issues in this review are Sig "features"😈
Still have the issue with it getting dirty?
It will take Sig a little while to iron out the kinks on this gun. That's just how it goes for new designs. Once they work out all of the unforeseen quirks it will be the best 22 LR pistol on the market. As of right now though - that title belongs to the Taurus TX22. The Ruger mk is a great gun but it lacks capacity and it's overly heavy compared to the TX. But the Ruger and the Taurus are definitely the best 22 pistols on the market
Sig Official says the engineers OK’d dry fire without the chamber flag- it’s optional
I believe the P322 is the 4th pistol to come from factory RMR ready
FN- Ruger- Taurus- possibly Keltec then Sig…
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Your experience implies the lead fouling issue is at least partly an ammo issue. Thunder Bolt is known to be a dirty ammo. I thought the guys who posted videos on the issue claimed it happened even with jacketed ammo? If using jacketed ammo solve the problem, I would still buy the gun. Jacketed ammo isn't more expensive.
Is this channel new?? I’m only asking because I just watched your review on the sig p322. Honestly, the best review I’ve ever seen. The editing was great. The information was spot on. All the pros and cons were dead on. You did your homework.
Did you do a review on the FN 502? I think you briefly brought it up in your p322 review. Which gun would you recommend of the two?
I agree that the slide on the p322 is a mess. Needs to be fixed. Also the magazine for the p322 is garbage. So many feeding issues.
I have an FN509 and I really put it up there with a Glock 19 if not better. Please review the -
1- FN 509
2- FNX 45 tactical
3 - FN 502
4 - P365 XL
5 - CZ TSO and the CZ Shadow 2 (comparison)
The content you'd want to watch is pretty new. Thank you. Speaking directly to the .22lr caliber, 'd recommend the FN502, I don't have a review but it has performed flawlessly in my testing.
Im having a lot of problems with mine. The 25rd mags are crap as well.
I shot one of these the other day. New out of the box, and it was very troublesome. Nice gun and all, but too many feed issues. My old MKIII blows it away.
The failure to feed comes from the magazine. On 22lr double stack mags if it’s no loaded 100% right then the rounds won’t be seated correctly and will cause failures. Just like with the keltec cp33
having owned a few 22lr revolvers and semi I have found using any bucket of bullets is like putting cheap war mart oil in my 911.. The p322 seems to have least amount of ammo problems than others I see at the range Fn is no queen when it comes to cheap cheap ammo
I hope that Sig has recently resolved the issues. I just bought one a month ago.
How is it? Did you try?
@@manipal90 sorry, I haven't even shot it yet.
I agree CCI us the best ammo for this pistol. Bulk ammo in 500 lots or larger, you will get dud rounds
My p322 will not slide lock and has 5% light strikes with all brands of ammo. The 20 round magazines work OK if you load them carefully but the 25 round magazines DO NOT WORK reliably. It is very accurate and has no leading problems. I probably will not buy another SIG product.
FWIW- I don't have a P322 nor will I, but what works good for lead removal, get a "Chore Boy" pure copper kitchen cleaning pad. MUST BE pure copper, if you have a doubt take a magnet with you to the store and touch it to the pad. NEVER use a copper plated steel pad....EVER! Unravel the pure copper pad so you have long strands and wrap the strand around your bronze cleaning brush, not a tight wind. Then pass the brush through the barrel as normal and keep checking until clean. A warm barrel woks good,
I do applaud your review, well done. I just don’t agree with all of your review. Also, remember that a fixed barrel will be very recoil spring tension sensitive with the wide range of RF ammo pressures. I use a 6lb spring for std velocity and subsonic and use the 8lb spring for HV. When using suppressor it’s dirtier than w/o especially with RF ammo. I have best results using mini mags,stinger, yellow jacket. I do not use any noncoated ammo and no federal or armscor ammo because I’m convinced they use the softest lead and cheapest/dirtiest powder they can source. Just my 4 cents
I should watch this before I bought it 😢
My cousin and I rented a P322 at about the time you posted this review. With the exception of the issues with the red dot (none installed) we experienced every single issue you cited. I REALLY wanted to like it because I was planning on buying one for training; I ended up with a far less sexy/far more expensive Browning Buck Mark (with a red dot installed that co-witnesses with the stock BUIS). I'd still like to get one for when I have company but until they fix these issues, it's a "nyet." I'm hoping Sig gets this straightened out--we also rented a 365-380 that was a joy to shoot. 🤷🏼♀
well….fuck me! gonna have to try and make the best of it once i finally take it to the range
surprised Sig pistols would have any issues, they aren't cheap
I had a lot of problems with my p322 as well - it is very finicky - only federal punch runs with no issues - even cci mini mag had firing problems.
Cheaper bulk ammo like Winchester white box - feeding problems.
I have over 5000 rounds through TX22 - all sorts of cheap ammo - no issues.
Same with FN-502 - very reliable.
Also the trigger - it is terrible.
The bottom line - I wish I have not bought it!!!
Honestly fowling is generally bad in all .22's I've shot. The .22 platform is something I've always regarded as a gun that gets cleaned often. (I don't believe that for majority of firearms and don't clean majority of my guns that aren't "go-to" guns. I usually let them get super dirty and see where the fail rate is. With .22 rifles and pistols. I always clean between range sessions.
with 22lr pistols, better to have 10 rounders that run 99.9% vs 20-25 rounders that run 98%
I have MAJOR barrel leading issues with my P322. It’s been back at SIG for 2 weeks but based on the fact it took SIG 5 months to repair my SIG Cross I don’t have much hope in seeing it anytime soon. SIG needs to quit using their customers as BETA testers. I’m done with SIG!
Sorry, but cleaning is first thing before and especially after firing many rounds. People think you just fire it, then put it away, until next time. We seem to have a use then throw away mentality.
Omg I wish I watched this before I bought this gun 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
It's about time there was an honest review on that particular pistol
QUIT Flagging
me bro!!😂
You should know how bad Remington ammo is with all guns only use copper plated 36grn Federal or CCI. AND YOUR good to go ....
Mine has had no problems it’s ate everything I have put in it. I haven’t tried ThunderBolt personally I wouldn’t buy it.
That’s not it huh? P322 grip feels very much M18 small in feel as well as the 365. So for 30-40 buck (holster). You have a trainer for both 320 and 365. P322 upper is very 320 while grip mod is very 365. I know this because I shoot all 3 and have gained a lot by practicing in high volume with P322. I’ve not had the fouling with any good Luballoy coated ammo (CCI minimal and rem yellow jackets. Also Eley subs run without leading
The only Sig I own I am disappointed with. Light primer strikes makes it too sensitive to ammo brands.
Undead elite64
Bought one recently and it's horrible! Wish I would have bought the Walther p22 I had one yrs back and it ran like a 10rd champ!