So let me get this straight. OP is required to give them thousands if not hundreds of thousand dollars while mommy thinks sister is doing her share of equal contribution because she occasionally bakes some treats? okay then.
Those better be some treats filled with all the weed and or shrooms and some truffle oil and gold plated fir shit like that. Oh, sis occasionally gives us six cupcakes (probably cupcakes or other goodies that were not sold and are going to be thrown away otherwise). I will bet her generous baking would take a break if asked to make a cake or goodies for OPs wedding. Instead, sis would demand full price (or more) then steal shit and ruin said wedding for bride by being a jealous petty insufferable b####.
First story: I'd have told my mom that if she wants that money, I'm calling the cops on sis for attempted grand larceny, and then on MOM for conspiracy to commit grand larceny because she's demanding I accept the behaviour of sis.
@@scotte8629 It makes sense to me, but I would run it past a lawyer first. Grand larceny is grand larceny - even if you don't get to keep the proceeds but a few minutes - and conspiracy is conspiracy - even if it's with a family member! Nothing to argue about - it's my opinion. / The sister (and mother) need some serious help. How do you propose they get it? You want to just sweep it all under the rug?
@@dough9512 if she actually walked out the house with it but OP had proof, that's a grand larceny of the 3rd degree which can result in 15 years in prison and the conspiracy would have easily been at least one year. However I don't know if there's much to be done about an "attempted" or the "conspiracy" of a failed grand larceny.
That mother is seriously unhinged and entitled. You can tell she's used to getting what she wants- too bad it's about to come crashing down on her 😂. At least we know where OP's sister learns it!
"Free food" for 18 years is a *"favor?"* What happened to all that stuff she was spouting about *"family?"* Never mind that "equal distribution" communist nonsense of hers.
@@brigidtheirish well the thing is, the unfortunate thing I've learned from these stories is that the "but we're faaaaaaamily!" excuse only seems to be valid coming from the entitled, delusional side
@@brigidtheirish yeah it's not like op can actually choose who should be his mom in the first place if I am the op in this story I won't take a crap about either two of them I would rather be alone than being with a family that never really care about me but my money and what I can provide for them
It's a lot easier to just not let his mom or his sister to ever be in his home again. And in his last update, he said that he told the front desk and elevator security to remove his mother from his guest list. So, he has that covered. He just has to make sure his sister is not on his guest list either. I would go so far as to change my social media accounts, email address and phone number as well as blocking both of them on everything. Then, if attempts in forcing contact continue and/or evolve into them hanging around outside of his building, stalking, following his car, etc., then go thru the courts to get a permanent stay away order and restraining order and no contact order. Worst case scenario ...... MOVE ...... in the middle of the night if necessary ...... but that would be a last ditch effort. Life is too precious and short to have to live with such craziness as a part of it.
Naw, he needs to keep trash people out of his home and out of his life. Oh, and see a psychologist about his ridiculously expensive watch addiction.. I mean, I'd have thought 3 K was a lot for a watch but 30? Dude travel the world or something!
I hate when parents say you "owe" them because they raised you. That's just awful parenting. Glad op #1 went no contact. Congrats op #2!! Great video LG!
I read one of these where a dad kept a running tally of every dime he spent raising his kids including receipts and expected them to pay it all back to him when they were adults. The two oldest had already finished paying theirs off if I remember correctly.
Kids don’t owe their parents anything. I have two wonderful sons and they have helped me from time to time and I always pay them back. But I don’t expect them to help me. I chose to have them. They didn’t choose that!
My daughter wants to take me on a trip for christmas. I feel awful about it. It is not the child's job to take their parents on trips, it should be the other way around. She works hard for her money and doesn't not need to spend it on me. I don't even like the fact she pays if we go out for a meal.
@@shannonbrice8012 Accept it as a gift of love from your daughter towards you . There is nothing wrong at all for your daughter to show you how much she loves you and wants to pay for a meal or make wonderful memories together by taking the trip. It's not her "job" ( or even yours really ) but it is her wish so accept it with the love intended and enjoy the time with your daughter. She works hard for her money and it's her choice on how to spend it so why not on making bonding time with someone she loves.
@@shannonbrice8012 Noooo you shouldn't feel bad about it at all. It felt SOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOODDD to send my grandma on a trip she really wanted but could never afford. She also said No about a million times but finally accepted. She had a blast and i'm so glad i finally got to do something for her as well ^^
@@shannonbrice8012 We often went on vacation together with my parents and paid for the accommodation. It was more of a "thank you" for helping with raising children / grandchildren. At the moment we often invite our adult children to go on vacation together. We have no hesitation in asking each other for help, be it with transport, heavy work, electronic stuff or looking after grandchildren / dogs if it is not possible on our own.
That sounds exactly like my own parents. They wanted to have me and my brother and my sister, but they don't really expect us to repay them(and even if they do, we usually joke about it)just because they raised us. I don't understand why some parents think they're entitled to their children's love and success. No one asked to be born last time I checked.
First Story: 18 years for food and board isn't something owed for when it's raising *your own child.* It's their choice if your see your child's money, just like it's your choice to have a child in the first place. Second Story: I need that confidence.
Wow. I guess I see where the sister got her morals from. The mom sounds just as messed up as the sister. I would laugh in my mom’s face if she told me to apologize. ETA: Do you think the mom is in on it? Maybe the sister gives the mom a cut.
That's what I thought. They planned all along to steal, then sell the watch and split the proceeds. Mom is angry that she didn't get that money. She probably planned to use it on her new digs.
Mom is definitely in on it, going off her rant and demands for money. Guessing she was pissed she didn't get her cut and is now trying to strong-arm it from OP. What a nutjob.
I don't blame OP one bit. I would have done the same. I have a sister like this and I haven't talked to her in over 10 years. OP should have said to his mom, "So let me get this straight. Sister can steal from me and I'm the bad guy? Should I have called the police instead? Would that have looked better, being arrested for grand larceny?" And then cut contact without feeling guilty at all.
It’s so crazy that his mom wants him to apologize for her stealing his watch. I’d go nc with both of them for awhile. Also I read your other post and sorry for your loss of your husband.
If 1st OP's dad lives in another state, he should move there, to live near him, and go total NC with his mother and sister. And, for the same token, he should also delete his social media accounts, and disconnect his phone number.
Omg that email from OPs mom was freaking hilarious- & outrageous! I was like whaaaat 4k a month for her rent, then he said he pays for her rent now. Oof. So glad he's fixing that mistake. Lol & she didn't even want to cover the $60 lunch, when he hadn't even ordered & she owes OP $k's. The mom & sister are so entitled, enabling each other, with backwards crazy thinking. Apologize to the person who you invited over & tried to walk out with 30k? WTH. And lol, "we all need to help each other, be one" just means you bankroll our lives bc you owe me for having you, & baker sister will toss you a cookie every now & then.
I bet the mom told the sister to steal a valuable, so she could sell it and use it for her expensive new apartment. I think it is curiously coincidental that right after the sister tried to steal the watch, the mom started demanding $8500.
The part I enjoy the most in the first story is the mom trying to tell op to not only apologize, but make a blatant excuse about it "being a misunderstanding", like his friends are nitwits' who can't tell their right hand from their left.
I hate when they say you "OWE" them. Thanks for working for an attorney. I know for a fact that a parent legally has to provide for their child for 18 years otherwise it is neglect or abandonment and they can be charged/forced to pay child support for that. And good for OP for cutting out the disease in his life. No one needs toxic people that extort and steal from them. This is the one time I wish I could have watched OP's mom's face when the "come to Jesus meeting" came for her. LOL!
Love the last story. I can relate. I went out of my comfort zone almost 37 yrs. ago and gave a guy my phone number without him asking for it. I married him too and we have two wonderful sons. Unfortunately, I lost him a little more than a year and a half ago. Miss him terribly.
Aww! I met My Sunshine by tapping him on the shoulder and asking what song hes listening to. Good taste in music led to video games, which led to love, together for 2 1/2 years. Your story sounds like a wonderful love story. If it lasted all those years and resulted in two kids, you both must have been great people with a beautiful love for each other. Instead of sorry for your loss, congrats on a life of love and happiness.
The part that curled my lip hardest was when she showed how conniving she is willing to be, when she manipulated poor Dave to get access to OP after he made it clear he wanted space. That's freaking disgusting behaviour, & killed any shred of plausibility for good faith. She's just a bad person. Good for OP for moving on.
Imagine making it abundantly clear to the person you're treating as a meal ticket as a meal ticket. How else was he supposed to react to his parasite of a parent?
Story 1: It is a parents job to raise their kids to be good human beings essentially. A child turned adult does not owe it to their parents after they have been raised to pay for things in their life. Unless they want and can afford to do that. That is entitlement and toxic parent wrapped into one. The sister unless she changes should never go to OP's house agin. The trust has been broken.
Mother: "Your sister can't help herself." OP: "Actually, she's helping herself just fine...she's helping herself to everything that isn't locked up, nailed down or on FIRE."
When I was 28 I bought my first new car. Shortly after, I changed careers and took a job overseas leaving the car with my parents. A few months later I get a call at work from my baby brother who was 15. Turns out dad made him call. He took my car out "for a spin" one day after school and before my parents got home from work. Only problem was he had no license, not even his learner's permit and my car had a manual transmission. He missed a curve, not by "straightening" the curve, but by turning too much and hit a power pole head on. This was pre-air bags. He wasn't hurt but the car needed what the salvage yards call a "telephone pole kit" meaning hood, grill, bumper, etc. My brother had the audacity to tell me that I was lucky he was such a good driver or it would have been worse. I told him if he ever drove my car again I was pressing charges for theft. I'm now 60 and to this day neither I nor any of my siblings let him drive our vehicles. He has wrecked nearly every vehicle he has ever driven, no matter who owns it, and wonder of wonders, not once has it been his fault. You can't cut relatives slack because they are relatives, treat them like anyone else. A thief is a thief is a thief.
Story 1: "You should never look through a lady's purse" if I have a valid reason to believe someone robbed me, and that person was trying to deny it and leave, all of the contents of their belongings WILL be searched through or dumped on the floor. Also, OP is an AH for embarrassing her? You know what's REALLY embarrassing? Being so terrible that you're willing to steal from your siblings, and then scream at them and create a scene when they call you out on it. Edit: "Who cares if she steals your money! She's just upset cause you have so much money and you're HOARDING it!" And if she steals that money, she could be charged with a federal crime or something close to it. It's not "the family's" money, it's Op's money, and you don't get a say in what he does with it. Try robbing and using that logic on other people with a lot of money, see where it gets you, I can guarantee you it'll lead to a jail cell. Edit 2: Any parent who claims their kids "owe" them for raising them, aka doing what's legally required of them to do when having a kid, is automatically a person I want nothing to do with.
I look at it this way. He didn't go through the purse. He dumped the contents into plain view. Very different. If she spilled her purse on her own is everyone who looks over going through a females purse?
Story 1, OP needs to get a restraining order against his sister & go no contact with his mother at least for a while. There is no reason to try to continue having a relationship with a thief especially if she has been steeling from everyone for most of her life. OP's mother has a few screws loose if she thinks her son should apologize to his sister because he didn't let her steel his $30,000 watch. With the update OP should get a restraining order against his mother as well.
Man when I hear hearing stories like that, I just want to hug the OP and tell them I will be your mom. My MIL is just like that but worse and I watched my husband, BIL and SIL just be crushed by their mother over and over again, until my SIL killed herself and the boys went no contact. Its so hard to think a mother would treat their own kids like that.
Same here. The mother and sister will hear the words WARNING! KARMA ALERT!, before too long; when the mother and sister look at pics of OP celebrating his fresh start in a his new state, pics of him at his wedding and, his baby shower with his replacement family (his wife, his in-laws, his dad, and friends), plus, pics of him with his wife and their newborn baby, not only will those toxic idiots have a hard time figuring out why he left them out of those important events, they'll also have a hard time figuring out why he went complete NC with them.⚠️
Story 1: How to say "I'm going to burn the bridge with my son for my thieving daughter" without saying "I'm going to burn the bridge with my dinner for my thieving daughter".
Love the last story - and all the updates of the first story :-). My mother was the exact opposite of OPs ... she never let me know when she needed help, and it wasn't until I was going through her papers after she passed that I discovered I could have helped if she'd let me know.
That's a mom that never wants to burden their child by asking for financial help, which is both a good thing sinc they never want to take from their kid (unless their kid has a bad habit with money, blocking is ok for that) and a not a great one since you want to help your parents out after finding out later in life.
I think the guy missed one point when dealing with his entitled mother, he should have added one point : " But it's not all bad news mother..here's the $60 for our lunch...."
For story 1 I was reminded of my mom. When me and my brother were kids she enabled him when it came to stealing and we had to deal with a bunch of shit because of that behavior, in the past few years my brother got a reality check and stopped stealing, additionally my mom realized that she was in the wrong with the enableding behavior.
Give me the OP from the first story he had grown a backbone and is still respect full. Kids don't ow there parents a thing, parents chose to have kids!
Man, what a story. I thought the sister was toxic but it turned out that she was just the aperitif. The main course and the 'piece de resistance" was the mom. OP, my dude, you have the patience of a saint. I was speechless and if your sister was atomic, your mom sure was the supernova of entitlement and distorted logic.
Wow, first story was so unbelievable! I personally can't fathom that behavior. I feel really blessed with my parents. I worked hard for them when I was young (we had a farm) and they encouraged me as I got older. I landed up making some bad decisions while I was growing up and instead of throwing me to the wolves they helped pick me back up. Finally got through all the garbage and got my life back together and knowing that they went out of their way to help me financially at times I went back to them and asked them how much I owed. They told me an amount which was far lower then what I thought it should be and asked them if they were sure and they said just give us that much and we will call it even. I miss them both so much but I thoroughly believe I will see them again. Good luck, OP, in your life and may you surround yourself with uplifting people that love you for who you are, not for what you can give them.
first story... I'll be concerned about the mom stealing her son's identity assuming she still has copies of (or know) his SSN. She may be entitled enough to open a new credit card(s) in her son's/OP name and max them out. I wouldnt put it past her if she doesn't have a source of income and want to continue living her expensive lifestyle. It's easy to use a credit card online. Edit: fixed daughter to son as I mistakenly thought OP was also female/daughter.
THE NERVE of that Mother in the first story! If that was mine the bird would've flipped a LONG time ago, OP needs to get the hell away from them, instantly NC in my opinion!
Oooh I've been looking for this story, thanks for posting this! It is absolutely disgusting, if she wants things then she works for it and the mom needs therapy.
I really want this guy to have a really nice family with an equally nice woman, and flaunt it in his mother’s face how he can afford to keep her and their future kids kept in finery
First story, yrs ago my brother stole my (cheap Walmart) bike to give to the small town drug dealer,,, while I was at work. It wasn't 5 minutes after I got home my sis in law told me what he did, she gives me a ride to druggies house! 😈 I straight up went in his yard while he & his buddies were on the porch, told them see that bike that bike is MINE!!! My brother (his name) stole MY bike to give to you for "a shady deal"! Those guys couldn't back away quick enough! My sis in law said nobody has ever yelled/stood up those guys, I said 🙄 I'm from the "hood" (Los Angeles), they do not scare me! My brother & I have very little to do with each other now.
I hope OP has EVERYTHING locked down. Since she's his mother, she likely knows his SSN and could very well use it to open credit cards in his name with his good credit.
My cousin had an issue with kleptomania (compulsive stealing) we’d check her bags or pockets any time she left. My aunt and uncle noticed the behavior, tried to address it themselves, and got her into therapy. Also, she was 7.
So OP is supposed to have to APOLOGIZE to a KLEPTOMANIAC for trying to stealing a 30 K watch the mom does understand that her DAUGHTER can be put into JAIL FOR GRAND LARCENY right and OP HOOONEY YOUR NTA. I'm so happy for the OP in the last story she deserves to be happy in everything she does I pray that they have a long and happy marriage together
No, that description of the sister is not a kleptomaniac! That is a description of a high end thief! A 30,000 thousand watch is not your kleptomaniac "usual" collecting. Op's sister "know's" he has high end "item's" and if she sold it for far less than it was worth, she would still be in front! Op needs to NO CONTACT mother and sis. both.
Mom of 3 very financially successful children. They owe me/us NOTHING! We had made the decision to have them, they of course had no say. It pisses me off to no end when I see/hear entitled parents like OP's mom. He needs to CUT HER OFF NOW! The sister too. After that he needs to put the word out to that he has gone NC. How awesome that he's doing so well at such a young age. I am lucky am proud to have 2 who are in like positions, and 1 who is on her way. I couldn't be prouder, and whatever they share (and they do share) we consider wonderful heartfelt gifts.
**Your Karen-voice is the best one I've heard on UA-cam, you can't bore me with it!** But I can understand if it perhaps isn't good for your voice to read too long parts using it, and it still sounded really good. 👍
Story one: Report the theft to the cops. Then send them a restraining order, with a memo attached "I am an orphan." Since apparently they see you as the family piggybank.
Or the Chinese parents who sued their daughter that they abandoned at an orphanage at birth and when she got rich they wanted it because they birthed her. Didn't even keep her just birthed her. Some people, I swear.
"didn't need to humiliate her at the party in front of everyone " Sweety. She did that to herself. He pulled her aside to have a quite conversation. She's the one who got loud. Edit: I like your Karen voice.
parents: I gave you free housing, food, clothes, ect for eighteen years you mean stuff you're legally required to do so you'd stay 'free' and not go to prison
This reddit stories channel is so much better than other ones I've watched. A couple of the youtubers have a smug..... punchable voice? Definitely subbing.
I raised you for 18 yrs, so you owe me?!?! What an entitled mom. Holy cow!! You've done more then enough for the egg donor that's your mom. Run!! RUN far!!! Don't give her a thing!
It would be a good idea for the first guy to get a restraining order against his sister naming this theft to the judge as the reason. Make sure there is a legal record of the theft. Then set up security cameras around the house, since she lives so close by. Only legal consequences will stop her and her greedy cheerleader of a mom. They are too entitled to listen to reason. Best option is no contact.
"I don't know what to do about my mom." Next time she demands op apologize or something for the sister being a thief because "she cant help it", op should say, something along the line of "since its your only child you should really see that she gets counseling".
"Okay, I expected you to come up with the money you owe me. Also, I expect sister to give me the money she stole from me. If you want this family to be as one, I expect the same energy. Oh, you can't? Then, I expect you not to contact me again until you have my money. Until then, we're not family."
I have "family" like this. I always was puzzled as a kid about why we locked our car doors at maw maw's house but not Walmart parking lot. Then, I grew up. Yeap. Lock those doors. Still don't at Walmart 😂
It will appear that OP was well willing to share’ possibly guilt tripping him to give the 30k would have worked in the long term. But mom and sister didn’t understand that ‚sharing‘ means that a) OP can keep SOME of his possessions for himself b) they have to at least pretend to respect OP.
“Never look in a ladies purse”
Never look in someone else’s room
I was thinking the same thing.
"When I find a lady, I'll be sure not to do it".
@@carolcarol9982 DAAAAAAAMN
That'll get you killed in prison. Never go into another guys cell or snoop. Prison etiquette.
Well it isn't polite to go into a ladies purse, but sister is no lady.
So let me get this straight. OP is required to give them thousands if not hundreds of thousand dollars while
mommy thinks sister is doing her share of equal contribution because she occasionally bakes some treats? okay then.
Those better be some treats filled with all the weed and or shrooms and some truffle oil and gold plated fir shit like that. Oh, sis occasionally gives us six cupcakes (probably cupcakes or other goodies that were not sold and are going to be thrown away otherwise). I will bet her generous baking would take a break if asked to make a cake or goodies for OPs wedding. Instead, sis would demand full price (or more) then steal shit and ruin said wedding for bride by being a jealous petty insufferable b####.
Hell I’d like to get on that dead! I bake well!
Hey mom I think dad had something to do with me being here, wasn't he??
Anyone else wondering if the daughter is stealing sweets from work? Given that she apparently doesn’t understand that stealing is wrong…
"Men are the providers and nothing else" mentality
First story: I'd have told my mom that if she wants that money, I'm calling the cops on sis for attempted grand larceny, and then on MOM for conspiracy to commit grand larceny because she's demanding I accept the behaviour of sis.
Seriously that sister belongs either in jail or in therapy for kleptomania since she "couldn't help herself."
you know you make no legal sense right?
@@scotte8629
It makes sense to me, but I would run it past a lawyer first. Grand larceny is grand larceny - even if you don't get to keep the proceeds but a few minutes - and conspiracy is conspiracy - even if it's with a family member! Nothing to argue about - it's my opinion. / The sister (and mother) need some serious help. How do you propose they get it? You want to just sweep it all under the rug?
@@dough9512 if she actually walked out the house with it but OP had proof, that's a grand larceny of the 3rd degree which can result in 15 years in prison and the conspiracy would have easily been at least one year. However I don't know if there's much to be done about an "attempted" or the "conspiracy" of a failed grand larceny.
@@HubiKoshi p
That mother is seriously unhinged and entitled. You can tell she's used to getting what she wants- too bad it's about to come crashing down on her 😂. At least we know where OP's sister learns it!
I can see some room for a couple of puns in this comment.
"Free food" for 18 years is a *"favor?"* What happened to all that stuff she was spouting about *"family?"* Never mind that "equal distribution" communist nonsense of hers.
@@brigidtheirish well the thing is, the unfortunate thing I've learned from these stories is that the "but we're faaaaaaamily!" excuse only seems to be valid coming from the entitled, delusional side
@@Ospyro3em Unfortunately, that does seem to be the pattern. *And* that the kids *owe* the parents for the bare minimum of care.
@@brigidtheirish yeah it's not like op can actually choose who should be his mom in the first place if I am the op in this story I won't take a crap about either two of them I would rather be alone than being with a family that never really care about me but my money and what I can provide for them
Story 1 he needs to get padlocks and cameras in every room of his house. Protect your valuables.
It's a lot easier to just not let his mom or his sister to ever be in his home again. And in his last update, he said that he told the front desk and elevator security to remove his mother from his guest list. So, he has that covered. He just has to make sure his sister is not on his guest list either. I would go so far as to change my social media accounts, email address and phone number as well as blocking both of them on everything. Then, if attempts in forcing contact continue and/or evolve into them hanging around outside of his building, stalking, following his car, etc., then go thru the courts to get a permanent stay away order and restraining order and no contact order. Worst case scenario ...... MOVE ...... in the middle of the night if necessary ...... but that would be a last ditch effort. Life is too precious and short to have to live with such craziness as a part of it.
@@tinydancer7426 , they might get by and break in. Time to get a solid steel door with good deadbolt locks.
Naw, he needs to keep trash people out of his home and out of his life. Oh, and see a psychologist about his ridiculously expensive watch addiction.. I mean, I'd have thought 3 K was a lot for a watch but 30? Dude travel the world or something!
@@charlotteinnocent8752 Makes me think the watch is solid gold or something.
@@akl2k7 Yes, and that would be a very inappropriate material to make a watch from since gold is soft.
I hate when parents say you "owe" them because they raised you. That's just awful parenting. Glad op #1 went no contact.
Congrats op #2!!
Great video LG!
That pisses me off too. Children don't ask to be born.
As my Mom always says, the goal of parenthood is to work yourself out of a job.
@@leshyaedawnfire yup and the one I saw on reddit
Raise your children, spoil your grandchildren
Spoil your children-raise your grandchildren!
@@leshyaedawnfire of course that should be a goal but it shouldn't be forced or demanded
I read one of these where a dad kept a running tally of every dime he spent raising his kids including receipts and expected them to pay it all back to him when they were adults. The two oldest had already finished paying theirs off if I remember correctly.
Love when parents are like "I did the bare minimum by what is legally required by giving you food and shelter, now you owe me"
Kids don’t owe their parents anything. I have two wonderful sons and they have helped me from time to time and I always pay them back. But I don’t expect them to help me. I chose to have them. They didn’t choose that!
My daughter wants to take me on a trip for christmas. I feel awful about it. It is not the child's job to take their parents on trips, it should be the other way around. She works hard for her money and doesn't not need to spend it on me. I don't even like the fact she pays if we go out for a meal.
@@shannonbrice8012 Accept it as a gift of love from your daughter towards you . There is nothing wrong at all for your daughter to show you how much she loves you and wants to pay for a meal or make wonderful memories together by taking the trip. It's not her "job" ( or even yours really ) but it is her wish so accept it with the love intended and enjoy the time with your daughter. She works hard for her money and it's her choice on how to spend it so why not on making bonding time with someone she loves.
@@shannonbrice8012 Noooo you shouldn't feel bad about it at all. It felt SOOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOODDD to send my grandma on a trip she really wanted but could never afford. She also said No about a million times but finally accepted. She had a blast and i'm so glad i finally got to do something for her as well ^^
@@shannonbrice8012 We often went on vacation together with my parents and paid for the accommodation. It was more of a "thank you" for helping with raising children / grandchildren.
At the moment we often invite our adult children to go on vacation together.
We have no hesitation in asking each other for help, be it with transport, heavy work, electronic stuff or looking after grandchildren / dogs if it is not possible on our own.
That sounds exactly like my own parents. They wanted to have me and my brother and my sister, but they don't really expect us to repay them(and even if they do, we usually joke about it)just because they raised us. I don't understand why some parents think they're entitled to their children's love and success. No one asked to be born last time I checked.
First Story: 18 years for food and board isn't something owed for when it's raising *your own child.* It's their choice if your see your child's money, just like it's your choice to have a child in the first place.
Second Story: I need that confidence.
Wow. I guess I see where the sister got her morals from. The mom sounds just as messed up as the sister. I would laugh in my mom’s face if she told me to apologize. ETA: Do you think the mom is in on it? Maybe the sister gives the mom a cut.
Probably some entitled criminals
The mystery is how OP ended up being a decent and successful human being. Most likely his mother gave everything to his sister and nothing to him.
That's what I thought. They planned all along to steal, then sell the watch and split the proceeds. Mom is angry that she didn't get that money. She probably planned to use it on her new digs.
The day someone demands money from me is the day the wallet is closed forever.
Mom is definitely in on it, going off her rant and demands for money. Guessing she was pissed she didn't get her cut and is now trying to strong-arm it from OP. What a nutjob.
I don't blame OP one bit. I would have done the same. I have a sister like this and I haven't talked to her in over 10 years. OP should have said to his mom, "So let me get this straight. Sister can steal from me and I'm the bad guy? Should I have called the police instead? Would that have looked better, being arrested for grand larceny?" And then cut contact without feeling guilty at all.
Mom and sister are both trash. Probably planed to split the $$
It’s so crazy that his mom wants him to apologize for her stealing his watch. I’d go nc with both of them for awhile. Also I read your other post and sorry for your loss of your husband.
@@jrwright7839 And tell mom to let sister steal the money to pay for her new place.
Ok so let me get this straight the thief steals op exposes thief and the thief's mom wants op to apologize for catching the thief let that sink in
That's because the thief's mom has a thief's mentality too.
Yep just like how real bank robbers do it
Golden Child Syndrome
Sis better deeply apologize to me and all guests, or call the cops.
Then pay me more for rent and bring me your truck and help me move. Wow!
He grew a magnificent spine, hope he keeps it
OP 1's mom's entitlement is breathtaking. What the hell.
"She can't help herself." The number one statement of an enabler.
If 1st OP's dad lives in another state, he should move there, to live near him, and go total NC with his mother and sister. And, for the same token, he should also delete his social media accounts, and disconnect his phone number.
Omg that email from OPs mom was freaking hilarious- & outrageous! I was like whaaaat 4k a month for her rent, then he said he pays for her rent now. Oof. So glad he's fixing that mistake. Lol & she didn't even want to cover the $60 lunch, when he hadn't even ordered & she owes OP $k's. The mom & sister are so entitled, enabling each other, with backwards crazy thinking. Apologize to the person who you invited over & tried to walk out with 30k? WTH. And lol, "we all need to help each other, be one" just means you bankroll our lives bc you owe me for having you, & baker sister will toss you a cookie every now & then.
If that me I would have called the police on her for attempted grand larceny and have my mother arrested as well
I bet the mom told the sister to steal a valuable, so she could sell it and use it for her expensive new apartment. I think it is curiously coincidental that right after the sister tried to steal the watch, the mom started demanding $8500.
Mom: l supported you for 18 years. Op: I didn't ask to be born.
Congrats on meeting the minimum
@@LatinaVixen91 THIS COMMENT. Exactly my thoughts whenever I hear something like what the birthgiver in the first story said.
To roughly quote the Amazing World of Gumball…
Mom: I work all day to support you kids!
Gumball: Kids you choose to have.
You weren't looking in a ladies purse you were looking in the purse of a thief.
1st story is a old one but a good one
I've never heard beyond the first part of it but yeah, an oldie but a goody for sure.
@@bethanygee6939 How old is it?
@@MaryTheresa1986 Very old.
@@MaryTheresa1986 he's talking about bitcoin and something about early 2011.... i'm guessing it's at least 7-8 years old
The part I enjoy the most in the first story is the mom trying to tell op to not only apologize, but make a blatant excuse about it "being a misunderstanding", like his friends are nitwits' who can't tell their right hand from their left.
I hate when they say you "OWE" them. Thanks for working for an attorney. I know for a fact that a parent legally has to provide for their child for 18 years otherwise it is neglect or abandonment and they can be charged/forced to pay child support for that. And good for OP for cutting out the disease in his life. No one needs toxic people that extort and steal from them. This is the one time I wish I could have watched OP's mom's face when the "come to Jesus meeting" came for her. LOL!
Lol. Right. I'd have paid money to see her face.
Love the last story. I can relate. I went out of my comfort zone almost 37 yrs. ago and gave a guy my phone number without him asking for it. I married him too and we have two wonderful sons. Unfortunately, I lost him a little more than a year and a half ago. Miss him terribly.
I am so sorry for your loss!
Aww! I met My Sunshine by tapping him on the shoulder and asking what song hes listening to. Good taste in music led to video games, which led to love, together for 2 1/2 years. Your story sounds like a wonderful love story. If it lasted all those years and resulted in two kids, you both must have been great people with a beautiful love for each other. Instead of sorry for your loss, congrats on a life of love and happiness.
I'm so sorry for your loss
I am so sorry for your loss!
So sorry for your loss 😥 I'm happy for you that you had all those years with him though. 💜 Big hugs from one internet stranger to another.
"You didn't have to embarrass her"
Okay, prison time it is lmao
My response would've been "It was either embarrass her or break one of her hands in front of everyone."
The part that curled my lip hardest was when she showed how conniving she is willing to be, when she manipulated poor Dave to get access to OP after he made it clear he wanted space.
That's freaking disgusting behaviour, & killed any shred of plausibility for good faith.
She's just a bad person. Good for OP for moving on.
Dave should have called OP and told him his mother is here and needs a ride and not given her his phone. I guess he's learned that lesson now.
Imagine making it abundantly clear to the person you're treating as a meal ticket as a meal ticket. How else was he supposed to react to his parasite of a parent?
Story 1: It is a parents job to raise their kids to be good human beings essentially. A child turned adult does not owe it to their parents after they have been raised to pay for things in their life. Unless they want and can afford to do that. That is entitlement and toxic parent wrapped into one. The sister unless she changes should never go to OP's house agin. The trust has been broken.
This first story just WOW I can not believe that people can be like that it’s scary that people in the world exists
I'll bet mom's been taking things, too. Little, inconsequential things that don't get missed.
Mother: "Your sister can't help herself."
OP: "Actually, she's helping herself just fine...she's helping herself to everything that isn't locked up, nailed down or on FIRE."
When I was 28 I bought my first new car. Shortly after, I changed careers and took a job overseas leaving the car with my parents. A few months later I get a call at work from my baby brother who was 15. Turns out dad made him call. He took my car out "for a spin" one day after school and before my parents got home from work. Only problem was he had no license, not even his learner's permit and my car had a manual transmission. He missed a curve, not by "straightening" the curve, but by turning too much and hit a power pole head on. This was pre-air bags. He wasn't hurt but the car needed what the salvage yards call a "telephone pole kit" meaning hood, grill, bumper, etc. My brother had the audacity to tell me that I was lucky he was such a good driver or it would have been worse. I told him if he ever drove my car again I was pressing charges for theft. I'm now 60 and to this day neither I nor any of my siblings let him drive our vehicles. He has wrecked nearly every vehicle he has ever driven, no matter who owns it, and wonder of wonders, not once has it been his fault. You can't cut relatives slack because they are relatives, treat them like anyone else. A thief is a thief is a thief.
Story 1: Everyone thinks family should share when they aren't the ones with all the money.
Story 1: "You should never look through a lady's purse" if I have a valid reason to believe someone robbed me, and that person was trying to deny it and leave, all of the contents of their belongings WILL be searched through or dumped on the floor.
Also, OP is an AH for embarrassing her? You know what's REALLY embarrassing? Being so terrible that you're willing to steal from your siblings, and then scream at them and create a scene when they call you out on it.
Edit: "Who cares if she steals your money! She's just upset cause you have so much money and you're HOARDING it!" And if she steals that money, she could be charged with a federal crime or something close to it. It's not "the family's" money, it's Op's money, and you don't get a say in what he does with it. Try robbing and using that logic on other people with a lot of money, see where it gets you, I can guarantee you it'll lead to a jail cell.
Edit 2: Any parent who claims their kids "owe" them for raising them, aka doing what's legally required of them to do when having a kid, is automatically a person I want nothing to do with.
Poor Dave, man. He thought she was just calling for a ride.
I look at it this way. He didn't go through the purse. He dumped the contents into plain view. Very different. If she spilled her purse on her own is everyone who looks over going through a females purse?
Wow! That first story makes me even more grateful for my nice family.
Story 1,
OP needs to get a restraining order against his sister & go no contact with his mother at least for a while. There is no reason to try to continue having a relationship with a thief especially if she has been steeling from everyone for most of her life. OP's mother has a few screws loose if she thinks her son should apologize to his sister because he didn't let her steel his $30,000 watch.
With the update OP should get a restraining order against his mother as well.
That last edit makes me think that even in India that level of crazy isn’t tolerated. And it’s ok for OP to curse out that crazy psycho.
Right? I was thinking even if they were in a culture where normally the adult kids send you cash, they aren't so hateful and deceitful about.
Put the $60 toward the thousands you owe me , mom.
1st story, OMG, sister's a thief, don't apologise and tell your mother never to suggest that a thief should be apologized to for stealing from you.
Man when I hear hearing stories like that, I just want to hug the OP and tell them I will be your mom. My MIL is just like that but worse and I watched my husband, BIL and SIL just be crushed by their mother over and over again, until my SIL killed herself and the boys went no contact. Its so hard to think a mother would treat their own kids like that.
I hope that the 1st OP gives an update soon. I want to hear about what happens next. I am sorry that the OP is going through this stuff.
Same here. The mother and sister will hear the words WARNING! KARMA ALERT!, before too long; when the mother and sister look at pics of OP celebrating his fresh start in a his new state, pics of him at his wedding and, his baby shower with his replacement family (his wife, his in-laws, his dad, and friends), plus, pics of him with his wife and their newborn baby, not only will those toxic idiots have a hard time figuring out why he left them out of those important events, they'll also have a hard time figuring out why he went complete NC with them.⚠️
Story 1: How to say "I'm going to burn the bridge with my son for my thieving daughter" without saying "I'm going to burn the bridge with my dinner for my thieving daughter".
Love the last story - and all the updates of the first story :-). My mother was the exact opposite of OPs ... she never let me know when she needed help, and it wasn't until I was going through her papers after she passed that I discovered I could have helped if she'd let me know.
That's a mom that never wants to burden their child by asking for financial help, which is both a good thing sinc they never want to take from their kid (unless their kid has a bad habit with money, blocking is ok for that) and a not a great one since you want to help your parents out after finding out later in life.
You broke my heart with this. I'm sure your mom knows how you feel and is swelled with pride because of you. Big hugs
@@JCC_1975 Thanks.
Gotta love that op is away from that toxicity
First story: "The relationship you are counting on has been disconnected, and there is no new relationship."
Or as I've heard on a RSLASH video: "New family. Who dis?"
I think the guy missed one point when dealing with his entitled mother, he should have added one point : " But it's not all bad news mother..here's the $60 for our lunch...."
For story 1 I was reminded of my mom. When me and my brother were kids she enabled him when it came to stealing and we had to deal with a bunch of shit because of that behavior, in the past few years my brother got a reality check and stopped stealing, additionally my mom realized that she was in the wrong with the enableding behavior.
The one dislike is from the crazy entitled mom!
Shouldn't look in a ladys purse? What lady?
😆
No ladies in this story. Just a mooching mother and a twisted sister.
Give me the OP from the first story he had grown a backbone and is still respect full. Kids don't ow there parents a thing, parents chose to have kids!
Man, what a story. I thought the sister was toxic but it turned out that she was just the aperitif. The main course and the 'piece de resistance" was the mom. OP, my dude, you have the patience of a saint. I was speechless and if your sister was atomic, your mom sure was the supernova of entitlement and distorted logic.
Tyvm LG. You always find us great stories. Stay safe please. peace
Wow, first story was so unbelievable! I personally can't fathom that behavior. I feel really blessed with my parents. I worked hard for them when I was young (we had a farm) and they encouraged me as I got older. I landed up making some bad decisions while I was growing up and instead of throwing me to the wolves they helped pick me back up. Finally got through all the garbage and got my life back together and knowing that they went out of their way to help me financially at times I went back to them and asked them how much I owed. They told me an amount which was far lower then what I thought it should be and asked them if they were sure and they said just give us that much and we will call it even. I miss them both so much but I thoroughly believe I will see them again. Good luck, OP, in your life and may you surround yourself with uplifting people that love you for who you are, not for what you can give them.
first story... I'll be concerned about the mom stealing her son's identity assuming she still has copies of (or know) his SSN. She may be entitled enough to open a new credit card(s) in her son's/OP name and max them out. I wouldnt put it past her if she doesn't have a source of income and want to continue living her expensive lifestyle. It's easy to use a credit card online.
Edit: fixed daughter to son as I mistakenly thought OP was also female/daughter.
Personally, I couldn't care less if the mother and the daughter spend the rest of their lives stealing from each other. They deserve each other.
@@singaporesammy my mistake. I misread thinking OP was also female. I meant her son.
@@KurenaiKimitsu Ah. Yeah. He should freeze his credit.
THE NERVE of that Mother in the first story! If that was mine the bird would've flipped a LONG time ago, OP needs to get the hell away from them, instantly NC in my opinion!
Siblings who steal are terrible. Why do they do it? Family need to turn them into the police. They deserve to go to the jail.
First story: Like mother, like daughter. Also, impressed that this guy is so successful, must have used mother as an example of what not to be.
Oooh I've been looking for this story, thanks for posting this!
It is absolutely disgusting, if she wants things then she works for it and the mom needs therapy.
That last story was really wholesome
WOW! The entitlement of the mother in story one. It’s scary
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.
I really want this guy to have a really nice family with an equally nice woman, and flaunt it in his mother’s face how he can afford to keep her and their future kids kept in finery
Oh man me too 💜
First story, yrs ago my brother stole my (cheap Walmart) bike to give to the small town drug dealer,,, while I was at work. It wasn't 5 minutes after I got home my sis in law told me what he did, she gives me a ride to druggies house! 😈 I straight up went in his yard while he & his buddies were on the porch, told them see that bike that bike is MINE!!! My brother (his name) stole MY bike to give to you for "a shady deal"! Those guys couldn't back away quick enough! My sis in law said nobody has ever yelled/stood up those guys, I said 🙄 I'm from the "hood" (Los Angeles), they do not scare me! My brother & I have very little to do with each other now.
Oh i would LOVE a final update on first story when mother finally realises her cash cow has died!
Right
OP's response to mommy moocher's demands: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - You're serious? Let me laugh even harder!"
Thank you for ending on a positive note. That made me feel better. I'm happy for the OP who is getting married and hope things went well.
I hope OP has EVERYTHING locked down. Since she's his mother, she likely knows his SSN and could very well use it to open credit cards in his name with his good credit.
My cousin had an issue with kleptomania (compulsive stealing) we’d check her bags or pockets any time she left. My aunt and uncle noticed the behavior, tried to address it themselves, and got her into therapy. Also, she was 7.
"Your sister ...bring(s) us treats from work"
So she steals from her workplace, too
Exactly what I thought too 😂
He should have called the cops so his sister would finally learn her lesson.
I think the cops would've been called on me for beating her a$$ and the "moms"
For the mother saying OP owes them $60 for lunch they should say, "I'll deduct it from all the money I lent you."
So OP is supposed to have to APOLOGIZE to a KLEPTOMANIAC for trying to stealing a 30 K watch the mom does understand that her DAUGHTER can be put into JAIL FOR GRAND LARCENY right and OP HOOONEY YOUR NTA. I'm so happy for the OP in the last story she deserves to be happy in everything she does I pray that they have a long and happy marriage together
No, that description of the sister is not a kleptomaniac! That is a description of a high end thief! A 30,000 thousand watch is not your kleptomaniac "usual" collecting. Op's sister "know's" he has high end "item's" and if she sold it for far less than it was worth, she would still be in front! Op needs to NO CONTACT mother and sis. both.
Mom of 3 very financially successful children. They owe me/us NOTHING! We had made the decision to have them, they of course had no say. It pisses me off to no end when I see/hear entitled parents like OP's mom. He needs to CUT HER OFF NOW! The sister too. After that he needs to put the word out to that he has gone NC. How awesome that he's doing so well at such a young age. I am lucky am proud to have 2 who are in like positions, and 1 who is on her way. I couldn't be prouder, and whatever they share (and they do share) we consider wonderful heartfelt gifts.
You sound like an awesome mom. Big hugs 💜
**Your Karen-voice is the best one I've heard on UA-cam, you can't bore me with it!**
But I can understand if it perhaps isn't good for your voice to read too long parts using it, and it still sounded really good. 👍
Story one: Report the theft to the cops. Then send them a restraining order, with a memo attached "I am an orphan."
Since apparently they see you as the family piggybank.
Theft is a violation of trust and privacy as far as the check for lunch tell her to take it out of the money she owes you
Story 1, That sister is obviously a kleptomaniac, yet has never been held accountable. That mother also sounds like a piece of work also
That first story reminds of the football player's mom that sued him in court for several million dollars, because "you owe me for raising you".
Or the Chinese parents who sued their daughter that they abandoned at an orphanage at birth and when she got rich they wanted it because they birthed her. Didn't even keep her just birthed her. Some people, I swear.
"Never go through a lady's purse!"
Mom has a very curious idea of ladylike behaviour.
Right. I'd have said junky by the sounds of it. Definitely no lady.
"didn't need to humiliate her at the party in front of everyone "
Sweety. She did that to herself. He pulled her aside to have a quite conversation. She's the one who got loud.
Edit: I like your Karen voice.
Op1 does not owe his mother nor sister even 1 cent. They are both dishonest. I had decided that both of them are entitled and both belong in jail.
parents: I gave you free housing, food, clothes, ect for eighteen years
you mean stuff you're legally required to do so you'd stay 'free' and not go to prison
Story 1 was absolutely hilarious. I needed that laugh, so... thank you!
1st. Op when it comes to mom and sister, meet only in public. Never at your house unless you have security around your house.
This reddit stories channel is so much better than other ones I've watched. A couple of the youtubers have a smug..... punchable voice? Definitely subbing.
Odds are neither sister nor mother realized that the watch was $30k. To her, it was just a watch.
Still not an excuse for stealing it though.
I raised you for 18 yrs, so you owe me?!?! What an entitled mom. Holy cow!! You've done more then enough for the egg donor that's your mom. Run!! RUN far!!! Don't give her a thing!
Oh wow! I made it just in time! Lets get this party started! 🎉
It would be a good idea for the first guy to get a restraining order against his sister naming this theft to the judge as the reason. Make sure there is a legal record of the theft. Then set up security cameras around the house, since she lives so close by. Only legal consequences will stop her and her greedy cheerleader of a mom. They are too entitled to listen to reason. Best option is no contact.
"Never look in a lady's purse" doesn't apply when the woman is a thief, especially when being a thief makes a woman not a lady
"I don't know what to do about my mom." Next time she demands op apologize or something for the sister being a thief because "she cant help it", op should say, something along the line of "since its your only child you should really see that she gets counseling".
I'm convinced that Op's mum told his sister to steal from him
Yeap 💜
Oh the second story is heartwarming! Congrats to OP!
"Okay, I expected you to come up with the money you owe me. Also, I expect sister to give me the money she stole from me. If you want this family to be as one, I expect the same energy. Oh, you can't? Then, I expect you not to contact me again until you have my money. Until then, we're not family."
I'm trying to imagine a family dynamic where you have to lock up all your valuables whenever they visit.
I have "family" like this. I always was puzzled as a kid about why we locked our car doors at maw maw's house but not Walmart parking lot. Then, I grew up. Yeap. Lock those doors. Still don't at Walmart 😂
You said exactly what I would say about the dad, LG
The first OP really needs a will so his stuff doesn't end up in this mother and sister's hands.
Watch story. 1 would never ask my son for money. I would live in a van by the river before I asked my baby for a penny.
I'd never have anything to do with my Sister ever again!
It will appear that OP was well willing to share’ possibly guilt tripping him to give the 30k would have worked in the long term. But mom and sister didn’t understand that ‚sharing‘ means that
a) OP can keep SOME of his possessions for himself
b) they have to at least pretend to respect OP.
Advice to OP from story #1: Sail away, sail away, sail away...