I am a current Airstream owner and bought a Rivian R1-T... so looking for an electric Trailer now. I have put a deposit on the all electric Pebble Flow RV but would love to stay with Airstream. It will be a sad day to sell, but electric is soooo much better in so many ways! Yes, range is an issue, but will plan on short distance trips between RV resorts. Further the Trailers can propel themselves to save on range. And being able to charge the EV and RV at the RV resort is a major game changer! PLEASE make the eStream and I will be the first to buy... it has been 2 years of silence, so I hope to hear an update before I take delivery of the Pebble Flow RV...
Airstream, you’ve got a winner here. Please don’t rest on the “it’s only a concept” idea for long, get it into production. You have interested buyers, myself included.
I like the concept and will be watching to see how it evolves into an actual product. The question I have is about the batteries usability when the trailer is in storage at home. If you give this the capability for the trailer's battery to act as a home backup battery (similar to what the F-150 Lightning can do) that would be a huge selling point.
Great concept @coolcat312. There would be ideal for disaster power back up of a house. Really depends on the battery size. My house would take about 12Kw a day so if this about 50kw it would be perfect.
@@wesrobinson7366 From the looks of that battery animation the battery would be 2x 75Kwh roughly. Coupled with solar? You would never see another energy bill.
As someone in the EV business, being able to leverage an EV battery to assist with home power needs is not a technical feat at all, it’s just a simple low cost option. The better answer for home power is a home battery and/or a generator, but I understand the appeal. It makes more sense in trucks simply because trucks will have bigger batteries and folks the drive trucks, like myself, appreciate this type of feature more in general. The truth is that homes are terribly inefficient as they were never designed to run off anything but stable, limitless grid power, so any EV battery will only provide minimal support for today’s home power needs.
I'm not an RVer but this is very cool. It would be great if you could triple the solar panel capacity by making a stacked set of panels where the top one could stay in place while the two below it could slide out to opposite sides with motors. The two that slide out would also serve as awnings.
There’s a competitor that has that idea incorporated into their concept. Definitely an interesting concept, especially if you have an electric vehicle with the muscle, but not the towing range. Would look good behind a Cayenne ha.
I love the concept. However I really question the ability of the trailer to have its own drive motors. Instead, I’d rather use its large battery bank to potentially extend the range of the tow vehicle. To me, that would reduce the complexity of the drive system.
That's literally what they are accomplishing. The trailer only drives on its own motors when it needs to park itself (easier than parking it with a vehicle) The aero adjustments to the body reduce drag, making it more efficient to tow. The electric platform and motors will help extend the range of the vehicle that is towing it (Most likely an EV as well) Without the motors in the trailer it could not park itself, the batteries would then essentially be dead weight as they are heavy. Source: I was a lead designer on this project.
@@untitled795 Thank-you for the reply and I understand what you are saying. From a cost point of view, I don't really value the trailer being able to park its self. If it was an option that I was paying for, I wouldn't do it. That's just my honest feedback. I also imagine that if I was towing this, it is important to have a proper towing vehicle, once sized correctly for the load behind it. I agree that I would probably be using a EV, but in my mind that would be a Truck EV like a F-150 Lightning or Tesla CyberTruck. Since I don't value the expense of a drive train on the trailer I would rather be able to utilize the trailer's battery pack to direct supplement the battery in the tow vehicle. Is this the right way to think about this? I'm not sure. It was just my initial reaction.
@@chrismehling9968 I know that they really tried getting the press images with the F-150 lightning rather than the models X, but I know it didn’t pan out from Ford’s side either. At the end of the day I think they went with “EV trailer needs EV car towing it” approach As for the self parking, I think it hits a demographic of people who do value that convenience (which is really all it is, admittedly). They say the whole outdoors camping movement is on a rise, and this feature alone would indoctrinate a bunch of people who just wouldn’t want to deal with all the technicalities (it is what it is, no matter your view on that) Cost is a huge aspect of this concept, which is why they go out of their way to make sure customers will have a realistic impression of what features would make it into a production version. This specific concept involves all the offerings of what a Trailer could accomplish on its own if given an EV platform, which is a really cool case study and it was a joy working on it I must say! This is mostly engineering spiel and I’m a designer, so not the best to get an answer out of but that’s the info I was aware of. I
@@untitled795 maybe you can talk to the engineers and ask them if they can make the charge port bidirectional. It would be good, not only to feed electricity, but to also be able to charge an EV. At least put a 240v outlet or a few 120v outlets on the exterior to charge an EV and other stuff without going inside.
Fantastic idea. From an EV owner’s perspective, some obvious questions: - What batteries will you use? What capacity? - What is your voltage architecture? 800v? - What is your planned Level 3 charging rate, and your estimated time from 20% to 80%? - Will you be using CCS, or NACS (Tesla) plugs?
So if this trailer is capable of driving its own wheels does that mean you cannot put "special trailer" tires on this unit will you have to use normal Lt tires like all the vehicles have? Most people that I talked to already use Lt tires as the "special trailer" tires tend to blow out the second you drive down the road due to the standards that LT tires have to comply with versus the near non-existent standards ST tires have. Thoughts?
We just bought an Airstream, and the 28RB was the perfect floor plan for us. I could live with a 22 foot, but it would be tight and too small for out use. I would upgrade to an electric 28 much more quickly than I would downgrade to a 22.
My wife and I both have a Tesla and could see this being a very real option in our lives. You should get the factories ready because I’m not sure you realize the market demand you would have moving forward with this. I would be happy to be a beta tester on your platform as a newbie who wants to start getting away.
I really need this! I almost bought an Airstream last year, but when I learned about how silly the power/fuel situation was going to be, I decided to wait until someone redesigned it. So sweet!
As a 22 Sport owner, this very much looks like the next generation to me. I love the way you integrated existing automotive components to bring the features together. If you can produce this for the market and keep the price bump to the $20-25K range, you will have plenty of new and existing customers lining up.
$20-25k? Lol. This trailer has its own drivetrain and enough lithium batteries to power a house. I promise you're not getting it for less than $100k over a standard Airstream.
@@andychops He said price bump to add drive train and battery for 25k which will put it current price of 65k+25k around 90K. I still think it will be at least 125K as companies have learned to milk early adaptors.
@@aw_overland I bet there will be tiers to the battery capacity and amount of power. Weekend warriors who don't go as far could save a lot of money on the same trailer, just with smaller capacity and power.
Since it has motors to help pull the weight what’s the tow weight limit? I can see many smaller SUV’s benefiting from the trailer pushing it’s own weight.
Towed out 27 airstream around 30k miles and hardly ever go to campground. AM solar installed 600 solar and 600 lithium and we lifted it 3”. Lift this 3” add another axle and this would be the ultimate vehicle to explore remote places. I hope they build them, we would have a reason to upgrade
Heard of it quite early I guess, was intrigued by the idea. Having made up my mind since then, more things come up everytime I think about it: - bidirectional charge port is a must - allow the motor concept to be flexible, e.g. think about a single motor version (for cost reasons) and think about hub motors (for space and complexity reasons). - given campers/RVs spend a lot of time not at a campsite or on the road, make the new, added tech as flexible as possible to use. You show/have the battery and solar among them. Let the features provide their service while spending time on the campsite or at home: vehicle-to-grid/vehicle-to-home power (see first note), and that as well with the solar essentially growing the solar at home (or even replacing it, if one choses to do so). It may not be much, but for people having none, why not using it while it is there. - make it international in its core (especially the core electrics/electroonics). Personally, if I were to invest in this, my first idea is how much benefit do I have while this thing is at my place, since it will be expensive and have components that are not meant to idle, like the battery and solar. Motors will sit whenever they sit, so there is no difference, except depreciation. That being said, I would like to connect this permanently with my home (like stable, not permanent as in fix), and do what modern BEVs can do, like the lightning and many other new BEVs: delivering power back. Now that this thing has a substantial solar roof, it will deliver quite some Watts during sun penetration and could make a house much more sustainable. And that can be taken whereever one goes - brilliant! My next guess is that this would be absolutely perfect as a mobile office. Even better as any Airstream or other RVs or campers ever were! What draws me back is the idea of having a whole, complex (=expensive) E-powertrain, especially with 2 motors. Hence my mention of hub-motors (much better with a camper than with cars, especially off-road IMHO, think of unsprung mass). Somebody else mentioned a freight-version or so, I think that is a good idea, but I guess totally not in Airstreams business area - but maybe you think about it. But what I would love it to become (is it that way now ? I have no idea!) is a modular approach, like seeling it naked without interior and have special outfitters doing custom build or let customers do it themselves. It would make the office idea I mentioned earlier or other business ideas much more realistic and again: flexible. This concept is indeed idea-fueling!
This looks awesome, although one of things I’ve found that can limit your stay outdoors is how much fresh water and gray water you can store. Im assuming this could use a biodegradable toilet but those battery’s are where my water tanks sit.(we have 22ft Caravel) I wonder how much fresh water and gray water can this trailer actually store? This video talks about towing a bunch but nothing about heat, AC, cooking, hot water, showering and the rest what comes with living / staying in a camper. I know its a concept but those are important factors.
Water and waste are always going to be the limiting factor. We have a Jayco 16 FBS with large tanks (55/30/30). Without showers, it will last the two of us about a week.
I'm looking forward to future iterations of this concept. Also looking forward to future videos of people driving these down the freeway with the remote only. You know someone is going to figure out how to drive one of these at full speed with the remote only.
great !! Would look awesome with a cybertruck !! ..... that said.... layout ergonomics bed size alignment , frige , induction cooktop , lavatory , sjhower , big screen w, couch ??Kitchen ???
This is bloody brilliant! Very well thought out feature set and great innovation. Can't wait for this to be a production model, especially if the technology is worked into your slightly larger models. Keep up the great work.
@@Airstream-Inc You folks better start lining up the manufacturing and supplies for this. Its going to hit you a lot sooner than you think. As in probably as soon as this economic downturn corrects. Demand for EV Pickups is a lot stronger than anticipated.
A couple of key questions I didn't see answered were how many miles will the batteries last if using the drive motor to supplement the tow vehicle? How far does it extend the tow vehicle distance before charging? How long to recharge? If you use the drive motors while traveling, will you have any power left to boondock? Concept sounds interesting but I'm not sure battery tech is there yet. Finally, cost?
How does it lower c02? you are adding huge Li-on battery to something that would normally not have it. How much camping would you need to do in that to off set the c02 from a gas vehicle from traditional towing?
I have wanted a RV/travel trailer for over a decade, but I was active duty military and the moving every few years made getting one unrealistic. However, here is my wish list (as a current EV owner) of what I’d like in an electrified camper like your eStream or comparable product like those from Pebble and Lightship: 1. A trailer lightweight enough to be towed by existing EVs. I know getting down to say Model Y limits is not realistic, but maybe Model X? 2. NACS-compatible DC fast charging 3. Bi-directional charging for home battery backup or off-grid EV charging. 4. Range comparable to existing EVs so you’re not stopping to charge your RV more than you would an EV on roadtrips. 5. Built-in solar charging that can cover a day of use on a sunny day (i.e., refrigerator, cooktop, lights, and HVAC). 6. Energy efficient appliances, to include a reasonably sized HVAC unit, fridge/freezer, induction burner, and microwave. 7. Aerodynamic body shape. 8. Space and power conducive to digital nomad lifestyle (lots of outlets and workspace). 9. Integrated satellite internet? 10. Electronic locks that can be remotely operated via app. 11. The self parking thing is sweet! Will there be sensors for when backing in to tight corners or when you don’t have 360° visibility around the camper? 12. MODERN STYLING INSIDE!
I have a Tesla model X and I am really excited about this product. Range anxiety is a huge issue for me and we have been watching all kinds of videos of people doing the experiments of how far you can pull what trailer before we buy. My wife and I were to the point of settling on a teardrop which really isn’t ideal but much better than tent camping. This, however, raises the bar to luxury capability for full time living in retirement. I would love to be a test dummy for this product to take it through its paces. Campgrounds, off-grid, extended living… let’s get moving. :)
@@emerybarg6424 A normal 22 foot airstream has a GVWR of 5000 lbs. The batteries in this trailer will easily add over 1000 lbs. Cybertruck maybe....Model X not gonna happen.
Drive assist will be a game changer for all trailers including hgv trailers. Having batteries and a drive unit on board will significantly increase range. And the trailers can be charged while docked. Even integrated into existing ice trucks it would assist in propulsion and increase mpg
Since these will weight significantly more than the non-E versions, how will this impact the towing vehicle tow capacity ratings? Could I tow a 7,000 lb eStream with a vehicle rated for 5,000 lbs? Does this virtually eliminate the requirement for a tow vehicle to have any significant tow rating? In other words, could ANY vehicle with a class 3+ hitch tow this? The concept of not needing a huge tow vehicle is very appealing!
The coupler, inertia brakes, jockey wheel (jack) all seem to be the European BPW manufacturer. I also note that the axle is more central as on your European Airstreams. This makes a lot of sense for today's smaller vehicles that can only take a lighter nose weight. This Airstream looks as if it will be big internationally. The integrated lights will be easier to adapt to most countries that require amber turn signals and in many countries also a reversing light and rear fog lamp. The red triangular reflector would look good if integrated also, but these can easily be attached. I like this concept very much and I do know that a small manufacturer in Turkey (or Türkiye as they would now preferred to be known as) has also presented something similar although that is more of an off-road trailer. Clearly, this is the way forward.
Wow! This is a fantastic concept and look forward to seeing the production model. Being able to go more off grid is critical and what more people want to do as campgrounds and RV parks stay so full. Love Airstream, keep up the great work!
In reality this is going to be an absolute nightmare. Until it is a long proven product I wouldn't touch it with your money. It is hard enough to find quality people to fix travel trailers that haven't changed in 50 years. This type of technology is going to require a very high level, highly trained technician. Not some guy that knows how to repair a 7-pin connector. Think about it. You've spent ten's of thousands of $ to get the education needed for this type of tech, basically an engineering degree and you're going to work at an Airstream dealer? Probably not. Manufactures love to tell us how wonderful new technology is but the reality new technology comes with years of issues until the manufacture can iron them out.
I really love this concept. I truly think the ability to move it without a tow vehicle is an amazing idea. This could make previously unusable spots accessible. This is also something motorhome manufacturers should take into consideration, if you ask me.
With all the electric I think there's a great opportunity for the luxury items like instant hot water, surround sound etc that comes with electrification
If the trailer wheels are moving the trailer, I have to wonder if you need to pay less attention to the listed trailer towing capacity of the two vehicle?
Just wait until self driving really takes off, they'll attach a second set of wheels, increase the battery capacity, and let you hop in at home for it to drive you to a nice remote area for a week and back again, truly that is the dream.
The is the epitome of innovation. Towing is a huge concern with my Audi E-tron, and I would never even consider towing with it....until now!! Awesome work, looking forward to seeing a finished product
More solar, more battery capacity and a larger inverter are the concepts I want to see integrated first. I would also like to see a vented washer/dryer before remote driving.
I'm shopping for a semi-full time living electric trailer like this one. Already have 50k cash waiting, but no rush. My main concern is winter livability and insulation as I live in NW Pennsylvania. LP heating creates way too much condensation inside a small space. An electric Bambi concept would be interesting to see.
This concept is awesome. It is such a great idea that solves many issues with towing and giving you more power for longer when you are at the campsite (dry camping). I would buy one 💪🏻
We asked the same question at the Tampa RV Super Show where they premiered this. According to representatives that you spoke to. You will be able to stop and charge your tow vehicle off of the battery from the Airstream. Unfortunately due to the current battery technology, you can only charge while not moving and using the tow vehicle.
I have a Tesla Model 3 and I am very excited to see how the EStream Trailer can help me get into having a towable camping trailer. I’ll continue to keep you on my radar for future updates on your progress thanks
A big reason to develop concept products like shown is to file patents. Patents to both potentially use later when it becomes more feasible and also to prevent your competition from using later. Been there; done that for many years.
This is exactly what I was hoping to see from you guys. Have you considered collaborating with Tesla in anyway? Whether that be car integration or even a Cybertruck edition trailer.
Hopefully there is a feature added to have rear-view cams sync up with one of the vehicles dash monitors. Either way, it's nice to see these designs come to life.
We have never owned a RV, 5th wheel, travel trailer - but this I would purchase. We are currently considering a class C or B, but waiting a couple of years to see if this will come to market will be worth the wait.
I’m hoping Airstream will really focus on increasing solar output to allow for a long term nomadic lifestyle. It would be great to park and charge an electric vehicle, but you’d need 3-4 kw to make charge times reasonable, which means maximizing surface are coverage or a deployed system. That’s a pretty big leap, but it’s still cool to see so much innovation here.
Do you foresee this tech being included on the larger Airstreams eg 30-33 ft models which could benefit greatly from remote control parking , needing “smaller” vehicles to tow them etc
Would never have considered an Airstream, now I'm researching if you guys have a presence in Australia... here's hoping this leaves the concept phase, well done
This is a really wild, innovative, and cool idea - bringing select, electric automotive-like capabilities to a travel trailer that previously would have been unimaginable with a combustion engine and then using that same tech to give you way more power off grid or boondocking than we have now. Whether this actually comes to life or does so at a reasonable price point, we will see, but I love where this is going directionally. It's not without its flaws I'm sure, but this is the kind of innovation we need to see in the RV market IMO.
I look forward to seeing this progress into the future. Definitely will wait a few years before buying to let AS work out the kinks. It takes AS dealers months for the most minor of repairs for many years now.
active solar on roof, battery pass through to tow vehicle for longer towing options is huge. The biggest drain right now for Electric vehicles is charging time when on road trips. If the trailer helps increase the range this would help eliminate some of those pain points.
I am a current Airstream owner and bought a Rivian R1-T... so looking for an electric Trailer now. I have put a deposit on the all electric Pebble Flow RV but would love to stay with Airstream. It will be a sad day to sell, but electric is soooo much better in so many ways! Yes, range is an issue, but will plan on short distance trips between RV resorts. Further the Trailers can propel themselves to save on range. And being able to charge the EV and RV at the RV resort is a major game changer! PLEASE make the eStream and I will be the first to buy... it has been 2 years of silence, so I hope to hear an update before I take delivery of the Pebble Flow RV...
Airstream, you’ve got a winner here. Please don’t rest on the “it’s only a concept” idea for long, get it into production. You have interested buyers, myself included.
I like the concept and will be watching to see how it evolves into an actual product. The question I have is about the batteries usability when the trailer is in storage at home. If you give this the capability for the trailer's battery to act as a home backup battery (similar to what the F-150 Lightning can do) that would be a huge selling point.
Great concept @coolcat312. There would be ideal for disaster power back up of a house. Really depends on the battery size. My house would take about 12Kw a day so if this about 50kw it would be perfect.
Also energy recuperation when in slope
@@wesrobinson7366 From the looks of that battery animation the battery would be 2x 75Kwh roughly. Coupled with solar? You would never see another energy bill.
As someone in the EV business, being able to leverage an EV battery to assist with home power needs is not a technical feat at all, it’s just a simple low cost option. The better answer for home power is a home battery and/or a generator, but I understand the appeal. It makes more sense in trucks simply because trucks will have bigger batteries and folks the drive trucks, like myself, appreciate this type of feature more in general. The truth is that homes are terribly inefficient as they were never designed to run off anything but stable, limitless grid power, so any EV battery will only provide minimal support for today’s home power needs.
Yall, if this could charge an electric vehicle then it is perfect. Talk about a nice back up charging station.
I'm not an RVer but this is very cool. It would be great if you could triple the solar panel capacity by making a stacked set of panels where the top one could stay in place while the two below it could slide out to opposite sides with motors. The two that slide out would also serve as awnings.
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There’s a competitor that has that idea incorporated into their concept. Definitely an interesting concept, especially if you have an electric vehicle with the muscle, but not the towing range. Would look good behind a Cayenne ha.
GREAT idea!
@@BowWowVideo LOL
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What are you doing for A/C, EV style pumps? And where will fresh water, Grey water, and black water tanks go?
Curious about the needs of the towing vehicle to pull this should the powered chassie not be available for example.
I love the concept. However I really question the ability of the trailer to have its own drive motors.
Instead, I’d rather use its large battery bank to potentially extend the range of the tow vehicle.
To me, that would reduce the complexity of the drive system.
That's literally what they are accomplishing. The trailer only drives on its own motors when it needs to park itself (easier than parking it with a vehicle)
The aero adjustments to the body reduce drag, making it more efficient to tow. The electric platform and motors will help extend the range of the vehicle that is towing it (Most likely an EV as well)
Without the motors in the trailer it could not park itself, the batteries would then essentially be dead weight as they are heavy.
Source: I was a lead designer on this project.
@@untitled795 Thank-you for the reply and I understand what you are saying.
From a cost point of view, I don't really value the trailer being able to park its self. If it was an option that I was paying for, I wouldn't do it. That's just my honest feedback. I also imagine that if I was towing this, it is important to have a proper towing vehicle, once sized correctly for the load behind it.
I agree that I would probably be using a EV, but in my mind that would be a Truck EV like a F-150 Lightning or Tesla CyberTruck. Since I don't value the expense of a drive train on the trailer I would rather be able to utilize the trailer's battery pack to direct supplement the battery in the tow vehicle.
Is this the right way to think about this? I'm not sure. It was just my initial reaction.
@@chrismehling9968 I know that they really tried getting the press images with the F-150 lightning rather than the models X, but I know it didn’t pan out from Ford’s side either. At the end of the day I think they went with “EV trailer needs EV car towing it” approach
As for the self parking, I think it hits a demographic of people who do value that convenience (which is really all it is, admittedly). They say the whole outdoors camping movement is on a rise, and this feature alone would indoctrinate a bunch of people who just wouldn’t want to deal with all the technicalities (it is what it is, no matter your view on that)
Cost is a huge aspect of this concept, which is why they go out of their way to make sure customers will have a realistic impression of what features would make it into a production version. This specific concept involves all the offerings of what a Trailer could accomplish on its own if given an EV platform, which is a really cool case study and it was a joy working on it I must say!
This is mostly engineering spiel and I’m a designer, so not the best to get an answer out of but that’s the info I was aware of.
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@@untitled795 maybe you can talk to the engineers and ask them if they can make the charge port bidirectional.
It would be good, not only to feed electricity, but to also be able to charge an EV.
At least put a 240v outlet or a few 120v outlets on the exterior to charge an EV and other stuff without going inside.
@@untitled795 thank you.love it
Looks like the battery banks take up the space that would normally be used for holding tanks. How is this issue address?
Great concept. I'd love to see this technology applied to a small 14'- 15' trailer.
Cargo trailer also!
There is no such thing.
@@jacktracy4845oh reeaalllly? I don’t thiiink so
I hope airstream follows through with this concept! Looks good
Love the concept, but if the batteries are filling up the floor space of the RV, where are the tanks?
As if we weren't already in love with Airstream you put new dreams into reality! This looks incredibly promising!
Fantastic idea. From an EV owner’s perspective, some obvious questions:
- What batteries will you use? What capacity?
- What is your voltage architecture? 800v?
- What is your planned Level 3 charging rate, and your estimated time from 20% to 80%?
- Will you be using CCS, or NACS (Tesla) plugs?
So if this trailer is capable of driving its own wheels does that mean you cannot put "special trailer" tires on this unit will you have to use normal Lt tires like all the vehicles have? Most people that I talked to already use Lt tires as the "special trailer" tires tend to blow out the second you drive down the road due to the standards that LT tires have to comply with versus the near non-existent standards ST tires have. Thoughts?
I really hope a release of a 28 version as well. A 28 would look amazing with the Cybertruck.
From what they told me at the Tampa RV Super Show, they are currently working on a tandem axle version right now. So big things to come
We just bought an Airstream, and the 28RB was the perfect floor plan for us. I could live with a 22 foot, but it would be tight and too small for out use. I would upgrade to an electric 28 much more quickly than I would downgrade to a 22.
@zandbergen im curios what the price will be since theres already competition from other truck makers. No doubt it might have better range still
You are a salesman’s dream !!!
A nice round circle next to a 3 year olds drawing of a truck lol
My wife and I both have a Tesla and could see this being a very real option in our lives. You should get the factories ready because I’m not sure you realize the market demand you would have moving forward with this. I would be happy to be a beta tester on your platform as a newbie who wants to start getting away.
I really need this! I almost bought an Airstream last year, but when I learned about how silly the power/fuel situation was going to be, I decided to wait until someone redesigned it. So sweet!
I am not a fan of Cybertruck aesthetically but will totally get one just for this eStream~ Matching metal shells🤩
As a 22 Sport owner, this very much looks like the next generation to me. I love the way you integrated existing automotive components to bring the features together. If you can produce this for the market and keep the price bump to the $20-25K range, you will have plenty of new and existing customers lining up.
$20-25k? Lol. This trailer has its own drivetrain and enough lithium batteries to power a house. I promise you're not getting it for less than $100k over a standard Airstream.
@@andychops yeah I’ll be dust before the price is low enough for me to afford!
@@andychops He said price bump to add drive train and battery for 25k which will put it current price of 65k+25k around 90K. I still think it will be at least 125K as companies have learned to milk early adaptors.
Yeah, $200k -250k, you missed a "0" buddy 😉
@@aw_overland I bet there will be tiers to the battery capacity and amount of power. Weekend warriors who don't go as far could save a lot of money on the same trailer, just with smaller capacity and power.
Love this and about time! I hope this comes in longer lengths.
Since it has motors to help pull the weight what’s the tow weight limit? I can see many smaller SUV’s benefiting from the trailer pushing it’s own weight.
I love that matt aluminum finish.
Towed out 27 airstream around 30k miles and hardly ever go to campground. AM solar installed 600 solar and 600 lithium and we lifted it 3”. Lift this 3” add another axle and this would be the ultimate vehicle to explore remote places. I hope they build them, we would have a reason to upgrade
Estream Class B Van, when will we see the concept I wonder?
What about heater and ac , stove and refrigerator?
Heard of it quite early I guess, was intrigued by the idea. Having made up my mind since then, more things come up everytime I think about it:
- bidirectional charge port is a must
- allow the motor concept to be flexible, e.g. think about a single motor version (for cost reasons) and think about hub motors (for space and complexity reasons).
- given campers/RVs spend a lot of time not at a campsite or on the road, make the new, added tech as flexible as possible to use. You show/have the battery and solar among them. Let the features provide their service while spending time on the campsite or at home: vehicle-to-grid/vehicle-to-home power (see first note), and that as well with the solar essentially growing the solar at home (or even replacing it, if one choses to do so). It may not be much, but for people having none, why not using it while it is there.
- make it international in its core (especially the core electrics/electroonics).
Personally, if I were to invest in this, my first idea is how much benefit do I have while this thing is at my place, since it will be expensive and have components that are not meant to idle, like the battery and solar. Motors will sit whenever they sit, so there is no difference, except depreciation.
That being said, I would like to connect this permanently with my home (like stable, not permanent as in fix), and do what modern BEVs can do, like the lightning and many other new BEVs: delivering power back. Now that this thing has a substantial solar roof, it will deliver quite some Watts during sun penetration and could make a house much more sustainable.
And that can be taken whereever one goes - brilliant!
My next guess is that this would be absolutely perfect as a mobile office. Even better as any Airstream or other RVs or campers ever were!
What draws me back is the idea of having a whole, complex (=expensive) E-powertrain, especially with 2 motors. Hence my mention of hub-motors (much better with a camper than with cars, especially off-road IMHO, think of unsprung mass).
Somebody else mentioned a freight-version or so, I think that is a good idea, but I guess totally not in Airstreams business area - but maybe you think about it.
But what I would love it to become (is it that way now ? I have no idea!) is a modular approach, like seeling it naked without interior and have special outfitters doing custom build or let customers do it themselves. It would make the office idea I mentioned earlier or other business ideas much more realistic and again: flexible.
This concept is indeed idea-fueling!
If you’re serious send them a message or go work for them lol
This looks awesome, although one of things I’ve found that can limit your stay outdoors is how much fresh water and gray water you can store. Im assuming this could use a biodegradable toilet but those battery’s are where my water tanks sit.(we have 22ft Caravel) I wonder how much fresh water and gray water can this trailer actually store? This video talks about towing a bunch but nothing about heat, AC, cooking, hot water, showering and the rest what comes with living / staying in a camper. I know its a concept but those are important factors.
Water and waste are always going to be the limiting factor. We have a Jayco 16 FBS with large tanks (55/30/30). Without showers, it will last the two of us about a week.
It’s an airstream, the name is all you need to worry about.
Yes freshwater tank space is a big deal. I go through about 35 gallons in 3 nights.
I'm looking forward to future iterations of this concept. Also looking forward to future videos of people driving these down the freeway with the remote only. You know someone is going to figure out how to drive one of these at full speed with the remote only.
As a future owner of the R1T, I am really interested in this
great !! Would look awesome with a cybertruck !! ..... that said.... layout ergonomics bed size alignment , frige , induction cooktop , lavatory , sjhower , big screen w, couch ??Kitchen ???
This is truly a game changer, this is the future of RV. ❤️💕❤️@airstream thank you for allowing us to make a video 📷 inside this beautiful RV.
This is bloody brilliant! Very well thought out feature set and great innovation. Can't wait for this to be a production model, especially if the technology is worked into your slightly larger models. Keep up the great work.
Thanks, Rory! ⚡️
@@Airstream-Inc You folks better start lining up the manufacturing and supplies for this. Its going to hit you a lot sooner than you think. As in probably as soon as this economic downturn corrects. Demand for EV Pickups is a lot stronger than anticipated.
YES. This is the direction we should be going! Thank you for pushing this forward!
You thought an airstream was expensive now? Can’t wait to see the price point on a trailer that solves a problem no one is having.
A couple of key questions I didn't see answered were how many miles will the batteries last if using the drive motor to supplement the tow vehicle? How far does it extend the tow vehicle distance before charging? How long to recharge? If you use the drive motors while traveling, will you have any power left to boondock? Concept sounds interesting but I'm not sure battery tech is there yet. Finally, cost?
How does it lower c02? you are adding huge Li-on battery to something that would normally not have it. How much camping would you need to do in that to off set the c02 from a gas vehicle from traditional towing?
Airstream should design the airstream ceiling to not get damaged by hails
I have wanted a RV/travel trailer for over a decade, but I was active duty military and the moving every few years made getting one unrealistic. However, here is my wish list (as a current EV owner) of what I’d like in an electrified camper like your eStream or comparable product like those from Pebble and Lightship:
1. A trailer lightweight enough to be towed by existing EVs. I know getting down to say Model Y limits is not realistic, but maybe Model X?
2. NACS-compatible DC fast charging
3. Bi-directional charging for home battery backup or off-grid EV charging.
4. Range comparable to existing EVs so you’re not stopping to charge your RV more than you would an EV on roadtrips.
5. Built-in solar charging that can cover a day of use on a sunny day (i.e., refrigerator, cooktop, lights, and HVAC).
6. Energy efficient appliances, to include a reasonably sized HVAC unit, fridge/freezer, induction burner, and microwave.
7. Aerodynamic body shape.
8. Space and power conducive to digital nomad lifestyle (lots of outlets and workspace).
9. Integrated satellite internet?
10. Electronic locks that can be remotely operated via app.
11. The self parking thing is sweet! Will there be sensors for when backing in to tight corners or when you don’t have 360° visibility around the camper?
12. MODERN STYLING INSIDE!
I love everything about this!
I can’t wait to see the Estream being pulled by a silver Rivian R1T.
I have a Tesla model X and I am really excited about this product. Range anxiety is a huge issue for me and we have been watching all kinds of videos of people doing the experiments of how far you can pull what trailer before we buy. My wife and I were to the point of settling on a teardrop which really isn’t ideal but much better than tent camping. This, however, raises the bar to luxury capability for full time living in retirement. I would love to be a test dummy for this product to take it through its paces. Campgrounds, off-grid, extended living… let’s get moving. :)
Where do you plan on getting off grid in a Tesla? 🤦🏻♂️
@@bennyboyellis within range of a supercharger.
@@emerybarg6424 A normal 22 foot airstream has a GVWR of 5000 lbs. The batteries in this trailer will easily add over 1000 lbs. Cybertruck maybe....Model X not gonna happen.
@@19kcolg If they do this right it will make it to where the GVWR is less important if its under its own power for accel / braking and stabilization
Drive assist will be a game changer for all trailers including hgv trailers. Having batteries and a drive unit on board will significantly increase range. And the trailers can be charged while docked. Even integrated into existing ice trucks it would assist in propulsion and increase mpg
Looks like pebble is beating you to it. Lightship is in a different ball game but delivers an amazing ambiance of RVing.
Since these will weight significantly more than the non-E versions, how will this impact the towing vehicle tow capacity ratings? Could I tow a 7,000 lb eStream with a vehicle rated for 5,000 lbs? Does this virtually eliminate the requirement for a tow vehicle to have any significant tow rating? In other words, could ANY vehicle with a class 3+ hitch tow this? The concept of not needing a huge tow vehicle is very appealing!
Hopefully Airstream will put the NACS charging system in this soon.
The coupler, inertia brakes, jockey wheel (jack) all seem to be the European BPW manufacturer. I also note that the axle is more central as on your European Airstreams. This makes a lot of sense for today's smaller vehicles that can only take a lighter nose weight. This Airstream looks as if it will be big internationally. The integrated lights will be easier to adapt to most countries that require amber turn signals and in many countries also a reversing light and rear fog lamp. The red triangular reflector would look good if integrated also, but these can easily be attached. I like this concept very much and I do know that a small manufacturer in Turkey (or Türkiye as they would now preferred to be known as) has also presented something similar although that is more of an off-road trailer. Clearly, this is the way forward.
Wow! This is a fantastic concept and look forward to seeing the production model. Being able to go more off grid is critical and what more people want to do as campgrounds and RV parks stay so full. Love Airstream, keep up the great work!
Thank you! ⚡️
In reality this is going to be an absolute nightmare. Until it is a long proven product I wouldn't touch it with your money. It is hard enough to find quality people to fix travel trailers that haven't changed in 50 years. This type of technology is going to require a very high level, highly trained technician. Not some guy that knows how to repair a 7-pin connector. Think about it. You've spent ten's of thousands of $ to get the education needed for this type of tech, basically an engineering degree and you're going to work at an Airstream dealer? Probably not. Manufactures love to tell us how wonderful new technology is but the reality new technology comes with years of issues until the manufacture can iron them out.
I really love this concept. I truly think the ability to move it without a tow vehicle is an amazing idea. This could make previously unusable spots accessible. This is also something motorhome manufacturers should take into consideration, if you ask me.
With all the electric I think there's a great opportunity for the luxury items like instant hot water, surround sound etc that comes with electrification
If the trailer wheels are moving the trailer, I have to wonder if you need to pay less attention to the listed trailer towing capacity of the two vehicle?
Just wait until self driving really takes off, they'll attach a second set of wheels, increase the battery capacity, and let you hop in at home for it to drive you to a nice remote area for a week and back again, truly that is the dream.
The is the epitome of innovation. Towing is a huge concern with my Audi E-tron, and I would never even consider towing with it....until now!! Awesome work, looking forward to seeing a finished product
More solar, more battery capacity and a larger inverter are the concepts I want to see integrated first. I would also like to see a vented washer/dryer before remote driving.
Go to a laundromat
@@daveklein2826 That is a deal breaker for me.
I'm shopping for a semi-full time living electric trailer like this one. Already have 50k cash waiting, but no rush. My main concern is winter livability and insulation as I live in NW Pennsylvania. LP heating creates way too much condensation inside a small space. An electric Bambi concept would be interesting to see.
Wish you gave us a detailed interior tour too. Please do one for that and send to those who have commented at least!
This concept is awesome. It is such a great idea that solves many issues with towing and giving you more power for longer when you are at the campsite (dry camping). I would buy one 💪🏻
Many many issues that shall not be named. Except, the obvious.
Was really hoping to see Airstream go this direction. This can enable a truly nomadic lifestyle in the model world. Can’t wait!
Sweet, I'll just sit inside the trailer with my iPad and drive the trailer to the campground :)
As long as there’s no planned obsolescence i’m all for it.
Can you use the batteries to extend the mileage of the tow vehicle? I haven't watched the whole video yet, but that would be amazing.
We asked the same question at the Tampa RV Super Show where they premiered this. According to representatives that you spoke to. You will be able to stop and charge your tow vehicle off of the battery from the Airstream. Unfortunately due to the current battery technology, you can only charge while not moving and using the tow vehicle.
Wow ! ……I’ll say it backwards WOW ! This is really impressive and WAY ahead of the curve ! Way to think outside of the box Airstream !
I have a Tesla Model 3 and I am very excited to see how the EStream Trailer can help me get into having a towable camping trailer. I’ll continue to keep you on my radar for future updates on your progress thanks
Well the Model 3 has a tow rating of 2000 lbs so I wouldn't get your hopes up.
Love to experience off grid living with this.
Take my money!! 😎
Wow... I never imagined that I'd see these features in any trailer... Go Airstream!!!
A big reason to develop concept products like shown is to file patents. Patents to both potentially use later when it becomes more feasible and also to prevent your competition from using later. Been there; done that for many years.
Question, can I pass charge to my Rivian if I needed? Can Be towed without charge on battery?
WOW, Just WOW. This is exactly what the futur should be. Hopping that production can come as early as possible.
When is this available and do we know pricing?
This is exactly what I was hoping to see from you guys.
Have you considered collaborating with Tesla in anyway? Whether that be car integration or even a Cybertruck edition trailer.
Does it generate electricity when it is being towed because the tires are being turned?
And this is why I love Airstream. Great concept guys! Can't wait to see it in person!
Love the concept... fresh water gray&black water how much more weight will it add.
Can I tow this with Model Y and, still retain the full 330 mile range, given the power drive and brake assist?
Awesome I struggle with backing up so I own class b but this changes mine next purchase. When is it going to be available
Are you kidding me?? !! Holy cow! This is amazing. Even if only 1/2 of this is true…this knocked me out….
I would love to see the Cinderella incinerator toilet and inductive cooktop there. This would make it a perfect RV trailer.
Hopefully there is a feature added to have rear-view cams sync up with one of the vehicles dash monitors. Either way, it's nice to see these designs come to life.
Wow i would buy one. From Montréal
We have never owned a RV, 5th wheel, travel trailer - but this I would purchase. We are currently considering a class C or B, but waiting a couple of years to see if this will come to market will be worth the wait.
I’m hoping Airstream will really focus on increasing solar output to allow for a long term nomadic lifestyle. It would be great to park and charge an electric vehicle, but you’d need 3-4 kw to make charge times reasonable, which means maximizing surface are coverage or a deployed system. That’s a pretty big leap, but it’s still cool to see so much innovation here.
Can’t wait to see this IRL
Cool idea. Cost is the issue. Can’t imagine this being even somewhat reasonable to purchase.
You nailed it sir. The $100,000 question my high tech Subaru Outback XT cost me $49k so I would be shocked if the Estream would be less then $125,000.
Do you foresee this tech being included on the larger Airstreams eg 30-33 ft models which could benefit greatly from remote control parking , needing “smaller” vehicles to tow them etc
Would never have considered an Airstream, now I'm researching if you guys have a presence in Australia... here's hoping this leaves the concept phase, well done
To hell with the concept! Give me one today!!
This is a really wild, innovative, and cool idea - bringing select, electric automotive-like capabilities to a travel trailer that previously would have been unimaginable with a combustion engine and then using that same tech to give you way more power off grid or boondocking than we have now. Whether this actually comes to life or does so at a reasonable price point, we will see, but I love where this is going directionally. It's not without its flaws I'm sure, but this is the kind of innovation we need to see in the RV market IMO.
Capability is interesting but What’s the weight?
Could the Ford Lighting get more range by using the batteries on the Airstream eStream while driving?
Now that's an innovation!
I am surprised that there is no charging of the batteries from the rotation of the wheels on the camper. Rather then the added drive motors.
I would buy this immediately!
I’m in. Let me know when you’d like me to test this out for you. 😄
Great! Now move from concept to production.
I look forward to seeing this progress into the future. Definitely will wait a few years before buying to let AS work out the kinks. It takes AS dealers months for the most minor of repairs for many years now.
Amazing concept! This our future to be united with nature and technology! I need one with a small bunkhouse though
Does anyone know if this E Stream is on tour? I'd love to see it!
active solar on roof, battery pass through to tow vehicle for longer towing options is huge. The biggest drain right now for Electric vehicles is charging time when on road trips. If the trailer helps increase the range this would help eliminate some of those pain points.
Looks like solar panels on the roof?
900 watts of solar is available on the roof. And that is not included in the calculations for the amount of time you can stay off grid
Will this need to be registered as a vehicle or will it still be a trailer? It could be a huge difference to insure.
I hope these are available to purchase by 2026. That’s when I plan to retire and buy one!
They might have a first production run model out by the end of this year.