He framed it as a white woman attacking a woman of color. Numerous black women gave Chef Pi a bad review, yet he cherry-picked a lesser known one who was white to place in front of a black audience. He said "we have to support women of color in business". He made it an issue of race and gender when it was just public safety. It was manipulative, deliberate, and gross. Racism and sexism are serious issues and he wrongly involved them for his own devices. It angers me so much.
that one girl with the blown up pink sauce bottle is the most well known clip ("LOOK AT THISS"), she is in like every video on it. But of course they don't get her and pick Ally who was pretty obscure (no offense) at the time
Thank you! I said the same thing. It’s not just his lack of research and obvious bias, but it’s how he framed it. He made it a race and feminism thing by continuing to bring up Chef Pi’s race and giving this whole “jealous white woman attacking another black woman’s success.”
Took the words right out my mouth. Watching the way he's handled this whole situation including this terrible apology that isn't really one and continues to act like Ally should be doing any kind of self reflection when she did absolutely nothing wrong is insane and makes me livid. Idk bout y'all but I wouldn't bat an eyelash if either him or Pi have every bit of success leave them like they deserve. It's time we start giving ppl some real consequences for their abusive, entitled, and narcissistic behavior. Crazy watching someone get full on gaslit while ppl clap in support of it.
I was so annoyed she ended up getting a deal from Walmart. Oh she lied, gaslit, sold a product that was arriving expired/bad, didn't even know what the FDA is. Totally deserved it.
It's simply because she went viral and somebody else was trying to make a quick buck off for her. Ultimately this is most likely were her 15 minutes of fame will end.
On the bright side, a lot of the pink sauce went unsold (at least in my area) and walmart cut the price in half which tells me they wont be buying anymore
Man really just said “I’m sorry I gaslit you” unironically with a straight face in the most tone deaf, insincere way. I can’t take this man seriously after that lmao
I mean, I really don't like him but I think it's just what you do (the straight face thing) when you have to apologize publicly. It was probably embarrassing for him to do that and honestly I can kinda see myself having the same facial expression had I been in the same position as his because I get secondhand embarrassment whenever I rewatch the clip where he defended Chef Pi and gaslit Allie.
Poor Ally looks so defeated…those two people are still fake apologizing to her. She’s the only one who’s a victim, and she is ABSOLUTELY the bigger person! I, personally, will never give chef Pii my money because of her unprofessional behavior. I think she needs a business manager and someone to hold her accountable for what she says to the public.
Pii trying to turn this into a "women need to work together and collaborate" issue makes me SO MAD. THIS ISNT ABOUT GENDER. THIS IS ABOUT SELLING BOTULISM IN A BOTTLE TO UNSUSPECTING CUSTOMERS. i hhhhhaaate everything surrounding pink sauce and i hope Ally continues to get support where she deserves it.
Agreed, it's sickening when people use that as an argument and it makes things even worse for women. A response I can think of to asinine statements like that is a quote from a Batman show "The hammer of justice is unisex". If someone has done something wrong, they should not be allowed to use their gender to excuse it.
I'm sick of everyone spinning things to be women empowerment. We get it. Women are very fucking capable. I will never disagree with that and I think anyone who does think women are somehow inferior needs some damn good evidence before I'll even listen. It's like saying skin colour determines whether you're good at... baking a cake. It's absurd. But anyone with any fucking brain cells already understands this. And the rest can just be laughed at now because if they don't get it by now they never will. It's long since time we stopped this gender divide and started moving forward as humans. Equality for everyone. If you are a human being, you are equal. End of discussion. Beyond that it's just individuals.
the problem is he’s still on her side… she’s so impossible to defend. the only reason her product is performing well now despite her lack of business skills and social skills alike is because she got bailed out by a big brand. then publicly shamed a girl for an honest review when it’s her fault for hastily shipping out a shitty product 😭 ally is such a saint for having been such a good sport this whole time
Yeah, he was defending the pink sauce without trying it, at least UA-camrs and Instagramers bought the product, waited for it to arrive and did an honest review. It being a small business is no excuse, if I go to a mom and pop restaurant and write that the taste is not that good and the place had hygiene problems and a lot of other people have shared the same experience, it would be preposterous for the owner and a TV personality to gang up on me, single me out and call me on TV to tell me "You are not special". I do not begrudge her deal with Walmart, after all she couldn't have sustained the hype for long and got presumably a lot of money for her recipe, but I think she should have refunded everyone who bought the unsafe version as soon as the first exploded bottles were posted.
Unfortunately, when you listen to Ally's interviews, she mentions that she did something wrong Which is sad, Ally didn't do anything wrong, so this is indicating that ShitPii and the talk show successfully gaslit her
He apologized but doubled down at the same time by saying he was holding Aly accountable but not himself. She didn’t even do anything wrong. There was nothing to hold her accountable for. Chef Pi is just a grifter that got sympathy from a talk show host and somehow a Walmart deal .
Even calling her a chef feels wrong 😂 Just an awful individual. How she didn’t get sued but got a major deal instead is beyond me… and then you have people saying God exists! 😂
@@shinyagami8843 course it's beyond you you don't know the facts you don't know anything about food science and you probably still think there's mayonnaise in it. she didn't get sued because there's nothing to sued because there's nothing to sue her for.
@@jonathanbarnett7897 Assuming things just makes you look like a fool… I DO know the facts & here’s another fun fact for you: I have a BA in hotel management & have been working in hotels for 25 years now. Taking courses & doing seminars on haccp & (I don’t expect YOU to know what this is! 😂) was mandatory for my work. So I DO know about food science too! Your girl on the other hand didn’t even know she needed an FDA approval for her pink toxic waste! 🤷🏽♂ Did you see me write anything about mayonnaise in my comment bud? Yet more foolish assumptions 😂 Stop simping for an awful individual kiddo, makes you look really dumb…
I feel so sorry for Ally because she wasn’t even mean or bullying her. She gave her opinion on the sauce and I’m sure she wishes these videos will end. As for Karamo, EFF him and his team.
He's apologizing now because he wants proof he apologized, but also because he knows no one cares anymore. The world moved on and he's trying to possibly capitalize on the situation for his failing talk show.
No, my thought is that it has just been long enough that people moved on and now he's trying to reignite what was once an interest in the topic to get eyes back on his show
Ally is like the definition of class. She literally says things in the most gentle, respectful way possible even though neither of them deserve that. If I had been singled out and mistreated like that I would have shit on his set 💁🏼♀️
I think they legit gaslighted her successfully. The way she beat around the bush all but said 'after some soul searching, I believe I was the one in the wrong (because an entire audience on a talk show applauded you tearing me down).' I think she's being so calm and classy about it because she really thinks she did something wrong at this point.
I feel more like she was scared to say anything out of line. Remember even though most people were on her side, she did still receive backlash for what she did. I fully believe something happened behind the scenes that scared the shit out of her so she’s cooperating.
I disagree that she was on the show for the "bad review" given to the sauce. I firmly believe he, or his crew, were going for outrage based on the skin tone of the two guests. He made comments that were beyond gaslighting and more to rile up the crowd and attempt to get higher reactions from the two, thus increasing the show ratings. I viewed it as bait, plain and simple.
Its a hard pill to swallow, but the host blindly defended a dangerously negligent con artist, basically coddling her for nearly giving people deathly illnesses that shared his race. I've seen black women more critical of the sauce than the guest was, but no, the biggest critic if the sauce was an easily pushed around white chick that wouldn't fight back apparently.
My issue with this apology is they’re still in a way holding her accountable. Notice how they say “we’re all learning” and still making it seem Ally was wrong for what she did. No, it’s not a time of reflection on her end. It’s for both the host and the chef.
@@playcube4564 exactly. Then they wanna pull the “women helping each other out.” Which isn’t bad but that’s not the issue. It wasn’t about a woman dunking on another woman’s success. It was customers received a crappy product that could’ve hurt someone, a customer questioning the product then chef being arrogant and loosing it
@@mooma10 Girl got attacked for trying to give her actual opinion before and gaslighted until she admitted she was the real problem on a talk show. Not to mention the race angle the show host brought into the mess, trying to frame Ally as potentially racist if she didn't support this black creator. I don't blame her for maybe not wanting to step back into this mess. At a point, you gotta scrape the shit off your shoe and try to walk far, far away from it.
I'm a chef and was horrified buy the myriad of things that can go wrong with her selling and making this product. I'm stunned that people defended her . She is so lucky that no one directly got I'll or died consuming this abomination. I know that America is a litigating hellscape and she really dodged what could have meant many years in court .
hopefully she learned not to cloud Chase. or maybe she learned not to contaminate something you're going to send in to be tested with your finger. hopefully someday everybody in these comments will realize you can't believe what you see on tiktok.
In my opinion, Ally should've refused to go back. If Karamo wanted to apologize, he should've given a public apology on his show and then follow up w/ things Pii did wrong which justified the criticism she was getting. While watching the clips of all three of them talking to each other, to me, it feels like the Karamo doesn't actually care that he was too harsh on Ally and not harsh enough on Pii. It instead feels like he just wants to make himself look good while promoting Pii again.
His way of apologizing minimizes his own wrongdoings and lifts up himself. He keeps emphasizing how caring and great he is in his own apology. That's a terrible apology for the level of what he did.
His whole point about her lively hood being threatened and her safety being threatened like…. The audacity. She risked the lives of so many people by sending out rotting products that actually GOT PEOPLE SICK
That's the vibe I got from it too, the "I'm sorry IF..." as he tried to spread the blame around and make it sound like he made a teeny little oopsie not a full on abuse of power.
He's doing the apology now because any video or community post they make were still getting flooded with comments about it. That's the only reason, he's not actually sorry or remorseful, they're trying to fix the reputation of the show and save themselves.
Yup. I looked around just a week ago and even the most recent ones were still getting comments on it. The apology itself is incredibly insincere sounding and takes practically zero accountability nor makes any kind of promise to be better from now on. I might have given a chance at redemption otherwise.
I hope the new comments are all about how he gaslighted Ally, supported a dangerous product *and* gave a fake non-apology then. Don't let this man off the hook.
Queer Eye is coming He also uploaded the apology video 2 hours before his episode went live on The Kelly Clarkson Show youtube channel It's VERY calculated
"her safety is being affected" that part gets me.... Like no dude. She put everyone else's safety at risk. ,🤦 It feels fake cause they're all narcissists except allie lol
@@amarillo856 That talk show is for narcissists to watch, I don't know how a decent human with a sense of what's right and wrong could watch that without getting angry
Replace narcissists with the word racists and it’s about right. So over reverse racism. This will one day back fire on them- good and decent white people have had enough.
Let's be clear. Chef Pin did NOT get into Wal-Mart. Dave's Gourmet got into Wal-Mart. BTW, Pink Sauce is now on clearance so that 15 minutes of fame is about to run out.
@@amoraacho6181 it's probably a test run with it getting into x amount of stores. Walmart never puts a new product from a new vendor nationwide from the jump.
Dave's Gourmet probably gave her the contact but it's Chef Pi's responsibility to sell it. Dave's Gourmet is a contract manufacturer. They make it, not sell it. Selling is on the contractee.
When I saw that clip of Karamo defending the pink sauce woman I was totally speechless. He seemed so genuine in Fab 5 but this really put him in a new light. Making a health and safety issue about race was completely unbelievable.
Lmao rewatch the episode where they get pulled over and how they didn't fix up the cops house after they found out he was a republican cop. Absolutely acted just like this.
Racists like him hiding in plain sight... and worst of all is he won't be punished even though it was obviously a racial call he made, having done no research AT ALL into the product he was defending with his whole chest against the "yucky white woman"
Thank goodness this is coming back up. It was actually disgusting how he handled the situation. The lady also claimed the show wouldn't let her air the test results of the pink sauce. Just furthering the narrative they were on chef Ps side no matter what.
Ally does not need to learn from this, she made an honest review of a product and she got attacked by two people at once so he is still gaslighting her
yes honest reviews always always involve the reviewer contaminating the thing that they're claiming to review. also you should always review with things you've heard and not the facts. grow up
If you publicly insult someone, you apologize to them publicly. If you're cruel enough to hurt someone in front of so many people, let's hope God gave you the balls to humble yourself and apologize in front of those same people like a decent human. It's not sincere at all to give a private apology for public affronts. It means you're either too ashamed to admit what you did was wrong, or worse, you have no remorse at all.
Or the third option, she didn't apologise at all. I can believe that they spoke after the interview but I find it impoosible to believe this lady is capable of remorse. Even if she did apologise it would have been some insincere nothing-burger.
"Chef" needs to be in quotes every time people refer to this woman... Real cooks know about food safety. I mean, so does anybody who has a food handler's card, so the bar was already low.
Still cannot believe that trainwreck was something that actually happened. Like imagine being literally gaslit for rightfully criticizing something that would make rat poison of all things seem safe to consume 💀
The fact that they decided to try and psychologically gaslight a food critic talking about a product tells me a lot about chef p, and the talk show host And the fact that people have noticed that the sauce doesn't look like it was professionally prepared, speaks volumes. And the fact that she didn't know that the FDA, does handle issues with food safety, tells me just how behind the curve she is
"I think WE learned something from this. ALL of us. All THREE of us." - Hahahaha they just can't admit the horrible way they handled this. Them two ALONE. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@WizTis Hahahaha 🤣 👏👏👏👏 I don't blame you. If they pulled me back, JUST to give these pathetic sorries; I would DEFINITELY have something to say. 🤣 But I see how she's trying not to sully that brats name and business. Giving her a chance. Sweet woman
@@jonightshade2252 THANK YOU! I completely agree! The Chef Pii episode is my first time hearing about The Karamo Show. Tried giving him the benefit of the doubt, when comments started saying how right he was. But when it blew up, WHOO! 🤣Wish talk shows weren't so similar.
I knew about Karamo from Queer Eye and he was always one of my favorite members of the group until this happened. I was excited to see how he would run his talk show based on all the motivational content he'd post on his Insta but after seeing the Pink Sauce interview I immediately unfollowed him. The reviewer put in a request to the show not to be seated next to Chef Pii because their relationship was contentious and instead of accommodating her, they sat her next to Chef Pii and then Karamo brought the request up mid-interview. It just seemed like something out of a trash daytime talk show meant to stir up drama, not something run by someone with integrity. He uses a lot of flowery self-help language but his decision making is shady as hell.
Exactly, in Queer Eye you’re made to think he cares about people more than anything, but you can tell he cared more about his show’s success, and looking self righteous, rather than deescalating the conflict.
To be honest, I am always sus of anyone that based around motivational content. Probably me being cynic but unless you are like therapist or priest or something similar, probably shouldn't touch that field in such a personal way.
I agree. I watched Queer Eye from when it first came out and followed this clown on Insta and as soon as I saw this garbage, I unfollowed him. How very disappointing.
"I will not invalidate your feelings" is just a modern way of saying 'I'm sorry you feel that way" when not apologizing to someone but trying to appear like you're apologizing. He didn't apologize.
I disagree.... if he said "your feelings are valid" then went on saying he wasn't really in the wrong, that would be the same as "I'm sorry you feel that way."
@@thatweirdblackgirl4259 he said “i will not invalidate your feelings” after invalidating her feelings, how is that not saying “sorry you feel that way”?
@@loveourworldproductions6640 because she probably thought it would be better than last time and kind of to put an end to all this in a comforting way maybe. but it turned worse
@@loveourworldproductions6640 I mean, she likely agreed because she thought she was going to get a real apology. She then realized she wasn't and became uncomfortable.
no she didn't she made a product some of them got damaged at shipping and it became less pink over time. oh and she didn't know that the f and FDA stood for food and not federal how dare she
Damn it’s like watching a child being told to give an apology for the first time; no accountability, just empty words of avoidance that “feels like” an apology.
Somebody talked to their lawyers and were told that they needed to clean that situation up because Alley could have a case against them both for mental trauma or something. So I bet they paid her some money to let it go, and Alley said "ok but im gonna need a public apology wanted as well
They keep saying "All three of us learned something". What the heck did Ally need to learn from? The only thing I could say that she needs to learn is to be less generous and accepting. She was so so so patient with them when they didn't deserve it at all.
I'm annoyed at both of their apologies. Kurama's, or whatever his name was, apology is so tone deaf while C. Pi (because I refuse to believe she's a chef since she doesn't even know the FDA) keeps going on about not wanting to make things public after she publicly humiliated and gaslight a reviewer. She even keep falsely promoting her sauce because the sauce sold in stores look nowhere near the shjt she promotes on her tik tok. It's time like this that i wonder why people like her gets to have a platform.
Because the world is structured on what gets attention and views at any cost. The same reason most of us clicked on this video is the same reason the pink sauce lady gets attention, sadly. There's something interesting/novel and we want to see what it is. While many things are bad about media being curated by a small group of people (like it was before the internet), I think there is a lot of merit to that, as long as the curators are responsible and themselves not just promoting what will get the most views. We, as a people/humanity, need to address this as it is the most relevant factor in the mental health crisis, in my opinion. Our mental state is being driven by the min/max nature of the economy, which is extremely damaging and already bordering on dystopia. Some things are more important than the bottom line and I feel this is a lesson humanity will only learn after it is too late.
because she didn't gaslight anybody right foods made it into sauces become less bright over time. also phones and cameras don't tend to have true colors. she did not humiliate a reviewer she humiliated somebody who didn't know what they were talking about who then contaminated the thing she was reviewing right before sending it in to get tested. I'm annoyed about how stupid the internet is over this and you don't need to know what the FDA is to be a chef 99% of chefs have never dealt with the FDA.
@@jonathanbarnett7897 OK Chef Pii 🙄...Writing the same thing under every comment doesn't make you correct. It makes you look like Chef Pii as well as unhinged. And the review woman didn't add any foreign shit to her review. You're making shit up and you're the only one on here defending "Chef". LOL Says a lot about you and none of it good
The pink sauce lady is never going to apologize to the people who's health and lives she put in danger with that sauce. It's crazy how she got zero consequences for potentially causing outbreaks of e coli, salmonella, or listeria. Any other food provider would have been shut down and fined immediately.
@@Deserie710 because her victims don't have the financial means to sue. A basic lawsuit alone costs on average $10,000. The person in their mid-20s that bought her sauce on TikTok isn't going to have that kind of cash.
@user-bm3uo3tf3r well I'm just trying to show empathy that certain self claimed victims will actually get their supposed missing rights returned and will have no one to blame except themselves that are the causes of their supposed losses and defeats. I'm not sure how many more hundreds of years it may take as we do do switch between fraternal and maternal rule.
This was so painful to watch it feels like Ally was just a hostage during this interview and their acting like as if they really didn’t do anything wrong except Ally the only one who literally didn’t do anything wrong😐
At my local Walmart, they put it under a tag that said $3 (for a different product). My sister works there and every bottle was put in reshop because no one’s dumb enough to pay $7+tax for it (they put the right label up a few days later and it hasn’t moved since 🤣).
The whole thing reminds me of when I had to confront a bully I had at school in the principal's office and she kept taking my bully's side or "trying to make it equal"
The most comical part is that had people not called out that talk show host for handling it how he did and saying what he did, after it aired and the clip went viral she wouldn't have tried to apologize for anything.... she would've taken that win of him "sticking up for her" and used it as a pedestal to climb a top her high horse and rode off into the sunset.
Lmao why are they even saying “all three of us learned something”? What did Ally learn? She got gaslit on a show and then was given a cover apology. Just being honest lol
She learned that a nasty person like Chef Piss can get a brand deal while she gets gaslit and nothing else for having the audacity to bring up a product might be dangerous. The true American way.
It's his sad attempt at damage control while trying to avoid taking actual responsibility. He realized he couldn't run away from it by just deleting it and gave a half @$$ apology for making her "feel" gaslit when that was his exact intention in the first video. Just like a band/artist at a concert controling the vibe and energy of the audience, hosts of talk shows set the tone of who the audience sides/empathize with on stage. Her review was probably one of the more milder/respectful ones I've seen. But they throw her under the bus because they see her as an easy target/push over. While I get she's being the bigger person by letting it go, the part of me that is fueled by unresolved rage and anger issues kind of wished she would have stood up for herself more and called them out on their behavior, especially since the reason for their alliance against her seems to have an undertone of being racially motovated. Why was she the only one targeted when there were lots of people who were more brutal (many of whom were also POC)? Part of me thinks that while she may just be a nice person in general, that a part of her might be afraid to speak up because the climate at the moment is like walking on eggshells when it comes to so much as disagreeing with someone even over a legitimate concern. Being young and ignorant about an industry is not an excuse for her breaking health and safety LAWS and REGULATIONS. If she has internet access to post things on tiktok, she has the internet resources to do some research on how to properly run a food based business. I doubt she even has so much as a food handlers card (bare minimum to work in a restaurant) let alone any legitimate training to call herself a "chef", if she didn't even know that F in FDA stood for "Food".
@@Anonymous_Eyeballs maybe it's different for some states, but it's a standard (even for front of the house employees) in the 3 states I've lived in. It's basically a certificate you have to renew every couple of years to show that you know proper hygiene and food storage standards for working with food. Your job needs to keep record of it on file and you should keep a copy on your person in case of a health inspector visit. You could get in big trouble if you have people working without it and even get shut down. And if the establishment serves alcohol, servers or anyone selling alcohol also have to have an OLCC to show they understand laws/regulations on selling booze and that they may be held legally responsible if they don't properly card or overserve someone alcohol and that person drives drunk.
There is absolutely 0 chance this wasn't a paid promotional video. Chef pii pisses me off, man. This has been a fascinating look into a part of the internet I had no clue existed. Good videos, sir.
I love how you cover things man, you’re one person I go to just to hear about crazy shiz. Also be infuriated or upset when feeling like I’m chilling with a homie! Thanks Atozy!
He’s ONLY apologizing because Chef Pii was still “successful”. If Chef Pii failed, he would have taken this in the COMPLETE opposite direction and create more hate towards Alle. He definitely would’ve done the attack much sooner.
That wasn't even an apology. He still clearly has some kind of animosity towards her. He only did this to try and make himself look better while also giving Pink Sauce more advertising
she’s honestly blown away by the audacity of these people 😂 ever since the first convo on the talk show, she knew they were delusional and leveraged the race card against the only white person in the building 😂
There were black chefs and black food manufacturers, that had experience and know their shit, who reached out to her to try to help her make her product safer and satisfying to customers. She blocked them and lumped them in the same category as the trolls pretending to be on their death beds after they tried her sauce... She could have avoided the shit storm that we all got to witness. Also, the secret behind the pink sauce is mayonnaise, ranch dressing, and red dragonfruit being mixed together. IJS. AlluredBeauty was the only one who did nothing wrong. Pii and Karamo refused to acknowledge her as a concerned customer with a legit complaint and gaslit her on national TV.
All this man will amount to is that one episode. Seriously, that’s gotta hurt. He won’t even be known as the guy on queer eye. His whole entire career is that episode and the “the learning is on your part” comment. I didn’t even KNOW he had a show until I saw this. It’s so clear he does not care and only did this because he was more than likely was backed into a corner. I doubt they will renew this show after the contract ends. It’s an absolute nightmare. also, that girl had nothing to learn. Her review was fair and honest. She has the right to give an honest and accurate opinion. It’s those two losers who need to learn something’s about operating a business and talking to people. They have no shame🙄
"Not just you Ali, no just Chef P but most importantly myself"- cause that's what really matters in this situation, what a man can learn from this situation, not public safety, not the feelings of a woman who is so traumatized she is still taking blame, but that he got to learn from this
The apology came to shove in the face of Ally. They are bringing attention to it by “apologizing” for what they did, but at the same time they are getting to turn around and say. But look we were right bc it’s in Walmart now. So basically like “sorry” we were right and you were wrong bc the gross ass sauce is now in Walmart.
The pink lady just torched a once in a lifetime opportunity. And the talk show host hitched his cart to the wrong horse, but didn’t realize it until til it was too late. What a train wreck.
Why now you ask? TV shows survive or die based on ratings gathered during critical times the public has historically dubbed "Sweeps Week"; there is no actual "Sweeps Week" but there are 4 times a year where these ratings make the heaviest impact on the longevity of a TV show. Those months are: FEBRUARY, May, July, and November. You do the math.
Why do they keep bringing up women as the focal point of the conversation? “Women can build each other up”-that’s not what this is about? Person A made a dangerous product, Person B called them out on it. Person A attacked Person B-am I missing something?
He's probably apologizing now because ratings are the potential issue. Idk, that's just my guess. His shows ratings possibly tanked and aren't recovering and this is a last ditch effort to bring them back? Idk just a guess.
I saw Pink Sauce in stock at my local Walmart and wanted to buy a bottle to recreate the recipe and give the recipe for free. I am an ex chef and have been developing recipes for 25 years. I hesitated to give her money. At the time there were almost 100 reviews on the Walmart site and almost all were negative. I admit there were many reviews stating her bad attitude, but a lot said it tasted like garbage, something along the lines of vinegar flavored ranch dressing with a bad after taste. That is a recipe not worthy to create on my own dime. Now Walmart reviews are up to 304 and a 2 star rating.
Dude, you should get in touch with Ally and the two of you should create your own “Pink” sauce. I’ll bet yours would blow Chef Pii’s out of the water! That would be the ultimate retaliation IMO…hell, I would buy it for that reason alone!
If you want a recipe for making it, the only person who seems to have figured it out was the "How to cook that" channel by Ann Reardon. Everyone was accusing chef pii of lying about the ingredients because there was no emulsifier, but Ann actually tested Dragonfruit and showed that it makes a stable emulsion. Chef pii is pretty crappy, but everyone claimed the ingredients list was a lie without ever actually attempting to make it.
Yeah, the initial interview really felt like they were racially banding against someone with Genuine concerns for public safety. Then they probably got atrocious backlash because of it, considering the episode was deleted (why would that happen?) and they had to do this whole follow up where Karamo apologizes like you said, blanket statement, Alle didn't smile with her whole face once, just those fake mouth smiles for the public appearance, she basically shook her head and was like get me out of this. Completely disrespected the first time she met those two, and basically beat like a dead horse in front of America with the second release. Honestly, pretty fucking pathetic, they'll rip her apart for having a genuinely concerned opinion of a product, and the creator of said product, takes her hand gently just to tell her in front of millions that she as a white woman isn't special, while racially banding with the host is once again, genuinely pathetic.
Exactly. And just think this sheeeet is happening more then ever... It is acceptable to hate white ppl for simply no reason! Deradicalization needed!!!
To be fair, I’m glad he apologized and acknowledged his wrong doing. If he never apologized at all, it would be a bigger issue. I think you’re expecting unrealistic expectations.
"I'm sorry I gaslit you" is....quite a line to hear come from someone. lol. But yeah the apology very much feels performative rather than sincere. It feels like he HAS to give it rather than it being something he is truly sorry for
Ally is so humble and has handled the whole situation with grace. Or at least a lot more than what the rest of us could hope to muster up in ridiculous and infuriating situations likes these. Truly a Queen.
In the second largest media market (Los Angeles), this tool's show is on at 2:35am, it isn't even listed on Karamo's website anymore. The station that airs it originally showed it at 4pm, and has been replaced by the news.
He framed it as a white woman attacking a woman of color. Numerous black women gave Chef Pi a bad review, yet he cherry-picked a lesser known one who was white to place in front of a black audience. He said "we have to support women of color in business". He made it an issue of race and gender when it was just public safety. It was manipulative, deliberate, and gross. Racism and sexism are serious issues and he wrongly involved them for his own devices. It angers me so much.
that one girl with the blown up pink sauce bottle is the most well known clip ("LOOK AT THISS"), she is in like every video on it. But of course they don't get her and pick Ally who was pretty obscure (no offense) at the time
Thank you! I said the same thing. It’s not just his lack of research and obvious bias, but it’s how he framed it. He made it a race and feminism thing by continuing to bring up Chef Pi’s race and giving this whole “jealous white woman attacking another black woman’s success.”
Took the words right out my mouth. Watching the way he's handled this whole situation including this terrible apology that isn't really one and continues to act like Ally should be doing any kind of self reflection when she did absolutely nothing wrong is insane and makes me livid. Idk bout y'all but I wouldn't bat an eyelash if either him or Pi have every bit of success leave them like they deserve. It's time we start giving ppl some real consequences for their abusive, entitled, and narcissistic behavior. Crazy watching someone get full on gaslit while ppl clap in support of it.
BINGO, you nailed it
Exactly
I was so annoyed she ended up getting a deal from Walmart. Oh she lied, gaslit, sold a product that was arriving expired/bad, didn't even know what the FDA is. Totally deserved it.
It's simply because she went viral and somebody else was trying to make a quick buck off for her. Ultimately this is most likely were her 15 minutes of fame will end.
On the bright side, a lot of the pink sauce went unsold (at least in my area) and walmart cut the price in half which tells me they wont be buying anymore
She is truly the definition of Gaslight, Gatekeep, and Girlboss
She'll barely make any money from it. It sucks
I hope she becomes broke. No way she deserves any success
Man really just said “I’m sorry I gaslit you” unironically with a straight face in the most tone deaf, insincere way. I can’t take this man seriously after that lmao
I think the "straight face" is more because of all the botox. He doesn't look like he could hold a sincere face if he tried..
@@Kez16h I choked on my water reading this omg lmao!!!
there is nothing straight about that guy
That's the straightest thing that cocoa Peter Pan can muster.
I mean, I really don't like him but I think it's just what you do (the straight face thing) when you have to apologize publicly. It was probably embarrassing for him to do that and honestly I can kinda see myself having the same facial expression had I been in the same position as his because I get secondhand embarrassment whenever I rewatch the clip where he defended Chef Pi and gaslit Allie.
Poor Ally looks so defeated…those two people are still fake apologizing to her. She’s the only one who’s a victim, and she is ABSOLUTELY the bigger person! I, personally, will never give chef Pii my money because of her unprofessional behavior. I think she needs a business manager and someone to hold her accountable for what she says to the public.
Just wait for the bad karme gave them bs and good karme gonna help ali to fight these two
She's broke now.
@@Aussie50InspiredDavidZ*insert dance here*
She doesn’t have to the victim to be honest the fact that she acted like a respectful adult makes her victorious.
“Your review is hurting her business!”
Yes, that’s the point of a bad review. Welcome to the food industry.
Welcome to life period
Maybe make a quality product and don't poison people and you won't get bad reviews.
Pii trying to turn this into a "women need to work together and collaborate" issue makes me SO MAD. THIS ISNT ABOUT GENDER. THIS IS ABOUT SELLING BOTULISM IN A BOTTLE TO UNSUSPECTING CUSTOMERS. i hhhhhaaate everything surrounding pink sauce and i hope Ally continues to get support where she deserves it.
He also made it about race too. That’s why he continues to bring up Chef Pii’s race
it seems like something a sexist would say not to seem sexist, very patronizing
AMEN!! 🙏🙏🙌🙌🙌🙌
Agreed, it's sickening when people use that as an argument and it makes things even worse for women. A response I can think of to asinine statements like that is a quote from a Batman show "The hammer of justice is unisex". If someone has done something wrong, they should not be allowed to use their gender to excuse it.
I'm sick of everyone spinning things to be women empowerment. We get it. Women are very fucking capable. I will never disagree with that and I think anyone who does think women are somehow inferior needs some damn good evidence before I'll even listen. It's like saying skin colour determines whether you're good at... baking a cake. It's absurd.
But anyone with any fucking brain cells already understands this. And the rest can just be laughed at now because if they don't get it by now they never will. It's long since time we stopped this gender divide and started moving forward as humans. Equality for everyone. If you are a human being, you are equal. End of discussion. Beyond that it's just individuals.
the problem is he’s still on her side… she’s so impossible to defend. the only reason her product is performing well now despite her lack of business skills and social skills alike is because she got bailed out by a big brand. then publicly shamed a girl for an honest review when it’s her fault for hastily shipping out a shitty product 😭 ally is such a saint for having been such a good sport this whole time
Yeah, he was defending the pink sauce without trying it, at least UA-camrs and Instagramers bought the product, waited for it to arrive and did an honest review. It being a small business is no excuse, if I go to a mom and pop restaurant and write that the taste is not that good and the place had hygiene problems and a lot of other people have shared the same experience, it would be preposterous for the owner and a TV personality to gang up on me, single me out and call me on TV to tell me "You are not special".
I do not begrudge her deal with Walmart, after all she couldn't have sustained the hype for long and got presumably a lot of money for her recipe, but I think she should have refunded everyone who bought the unsafe version as soon as the first exploded bottles were posted.
@@annak8755 you NAILED it! 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻
@@annak8755 why are we all pretending like we don't know why he stands up for her?
Unfortunately, when you listen to Ally's interviews, she mentions that she did something wrong
Which is sad, Ally didn't do anything wrong, so this is indicating that ShitPii and the talk show successfully gaslit her
@@RandallBalls Cus they are fighting against that evil racist lady who tried to destroy Pipi's business?
He apologized but doubled down at the same time by saying he was holding Aly accountable but not himself. She didn’t even do anything wrong. There was nothing to hold her accountable for. Chef Pi is just a grifter that got sympathy from a talk show host and somehow a Walmart deal .
Even calling her a chef feels wrong 😂
Just an awful individual. How she didn’t get sued but got a major deal instead is beyond me… and then you have people saying God exists! 😂
@@shinyagami8843 course it's beyond you you don't know the facts you don't know anything about food science and you probably still think there's mayonnaise in it. she didn't get sued because there's nothing to sued because there's nothing to sue her for.
@@jonathanbarnett7897 Okay Pii. We all know that's you.
@@jonathanbarnett7897🤡
@@jonathanbarnett7897 Assuming things just makes you look like a fool…
I DO know the facts & here’s another fun fact for you: I have a BA in hotel management & have been working in hotels for 25 years now.
Taking courses & doing seminars on haccp & (I don’t expect YOU to know what this is! 😂) was mandatory for my work.
So I DO know about food science too!
Your girl on the other hand didn’t even know she needed an FDA approval for her pink toxic waste! 🤷🏽♂
Did you see me write anything about mayonnaise in my comment bud?
Yet more foolish assumptions 😂
Stop simping for an awful individual kiddo, makes you look really dumb…
I feel so sorry for Ally because she wasn’t even mean or bullying her. She gave her opinion on the sauce and I’m sure she wishes these videos will end. As for Karamo, EFF him and his team.
He's apologizing now because he wants proof he apologized, but also because he knows no one cares anymore. The world moved on and he's trying to possibly capitalize on the situation for his failing talk show.
people who like drama and have nothing better to do are his main audience
No, my thought is that it has just been long enough that people moved on and now he's trying to reignite what was once an interest in the topic to get eyes back on his show
I’m convinced it is, I only know this guy because of the pink sauce. Only returned here because I saw an ad on TV lmao
Ally is like the definition of class. She literally says things in the most gentle, respectful way possible even though neither of them deserve that. If I had been singled out and mistreated like that I would have shit on his set 💁🏼♀️
Exactly
Yeah, she's doing a really job handling this, and yet again walking away the better person.
I think they legit gaslighted her successfully. The way she beat around the bush all but said 'after some soul searching, I believe I was the one in the wrong (because an entire audience on a talk show applauded you tearing me down).' I think she's being so calm and classy about it because she really thinks she did something wrong at this point.
I really really wish Ally had just said ‘no absolutely not going to go back on your show.’ And left it at that.
I feel more like she was scared to say anything out of line. Remember even though most people were on her side, she did still receive backlash for what she did. I fully believe something happened behind the scenes that scared the shit out of her so she’s cooperating.
I disagree that she was on the show for the "bad review" given to the sauce. I firmly believe he, or his crew, were going for outrage based on the skin tone of the two guests. He made comments that were beyond gaslighting and more to rile up the crowd and attempt to get higher reactions from the two, thus increasing the show ratings. I viewed it as bait, plain and simple.
Straight up racism
Facts
Its a hard pill to swallow, but the host blindly defended a dangerously negligent con artist, basically coddling her for nearly giving people deathly illnesses that shared his race. I've seen black women more critical of the sauce than the guest was, but no, the biggest critic if the sauce was an easily pushed around white chick that wouldn't fight back apparently.
He's just like Oprah! Will stand by their "brothers and sisters" no matter what
Everything on TV is scripted. Everything.
My issue with this apology is they’re still in a way holding her accountable. Notice how they say “we’re all learning” and still making it seem Ally was wrong for what she did. No, it’s not a time of reflection on her end. It’s for both the host and the chef.
I'm sorry for gaslighting you, as he keeps gaslighting her
@@playcube4564 exactly. Then they wanna pull the “women helping each other out.” Which isn’t bad but that’s not the issue. It wasn’t about a woman dunking on another woman’s success. It was customers received a crappy product that could’ve hurt someone, a customer questioning the product then chef being arrogant and loosing it
"Chef"
I don't feel bad for Ally anymore. She's being super fake during this interview, not giving her actual opinion.
@@mooma10 Girl got attacked for trying to give her actual opinion before and gaslighted until she admitted she was the real problem on a talk show. Not to mention the race angle the show host brought into the mess, trying to frame Ally as potentially racist if she didn't support this black creator. I don't blame her for maybe not wanting to step back into this mess. At a point, you gotta scrape the shit off your shoe and try to walk far, far away from it.
I'm a chef and was horrified buy the myriad of things that can go wrong with her selling and making this product. I'm stunned that people defended her . She is so lucky that no one directly got I'll or died consuming this abomination.
I know that America is a litigating hellscape and she really dodged what could have meant many years in court .
Did he say after the pink sauce went viral? The pink sauce never went viral, the pink sauce went bacteriological.
Good one. love you
But she's getting rich off of it. She got a deal with Walmart so she's actually winning life as of now. She didn't even get in trouble with FDA lol
Why not just say bacterial lol
Mould actually is a fungus... So, the sauce went fungal?
@@griffincoyne5051 missed opportunity for sure.
What did Ally learn? Not to go on talk shows with psychotic saucepreneurs and their Stanning talk show host
She didn't learn. She's back
@@mooma10 yeah cause they successfully gaslit her. She really believes shes the one at fault cause they tore her down so much.
I’m literally so confused why she went back on there literally pointless
Clout probably.
hopefully she learned not to cloud Chase. or maybe she learned not to contaminate something you're going to send in to be tested with your finger. hopefully someday everybody in these comments will realize you can't believe what you see on tiktok.
In my opinion, Ally should've refused to go back. If Karamo wanted to apologize, he should've given a public apology on his show and then follow up w/ things Pii did wrong which justified the criticism she was getting. While watching the clips of all three of them talking to each other, to me, it feels like the Karamo doesn't actually care that he was too harsh on Ally and not harsh enough on Pii. It instead feels like he just wants to make himself look good while promoting Pii again.
Yeah his tone in the "apology" screamed of "I believe I'm right but I'm being forced to act like I did something wrong."
@@FrenkTheJoy FACTS
Agreed
She came back because it was good for business.
I hope she was paid well for that Wallmart add
His way of apologizing minimizes his own wrongdoings and lifts up himself. He keeps emphasizing how caring and great he is in his own apology. That's a terrible apology for the level of what he did.
His whole point about her lively hood being threatened and her safety being threatened like…. The audacity.
She risked the lives of so many people by sending out rotting products that actually GOT PEOPLE SICK
His apology feels more like "I'm sorry you feel that way" and not "I'm sorry for what I did wrong"
That's the vibe I got from it too, the "I'm sorry IF..." as he tried to spread the blame around and make it sound like he made a teeny little oopsie not a full on abuse of power.
Yeah now he was spinning that both sides needed to learn, and I'm like no dude that fuck up was all you
definitely. and it rings especially hollow considering how long it took for him to acknowledge and address ANYTHING.
they are racist, they hate that white girl critizized black woman, thats all
Cause that’s exactly what he means. Don’t let people show you twice what they mean…
He's doing the apology now because any video or community post they make were still getting flooded with comments about it. That's the only reason, he's not actually sorry or remorseful, they're trying to fix the reputation of the show and save themselves.
Yeah this makes sense
Yup. I looked around just a week ago and even the most recent ones were still getting comments on it. The apology itself is incredibly insincere sounding and takes practically zero accountability nor makes any kind of promise to be better from now on. I might have given a chance at redemption otherwise.
I hope the new comments are all about how he gaslighted Ally, supported a dangerous product *and* gave a fake non-apology then. Don't let this man off the hook.
I believe that's why he's doing it too and if that was his goal, epic fail
Queer Eye is coming
He also uploaded the apology video 2 hours before his episode went live on The Kelly Clarkson Show youtube channel
It's VERY calculated
"her safety is being affected" that part gets me.... Like no dude. She put everyone else's safety at risk. ,🤦
It feels fake cause they're all narcissists except allie lol
narcissist? come on now bruh. asshole doesn't mean narcissist.
Clowns defending clowns.
@@amarillo856 That talk show is for narcissists to watch, I don't know how a decent human with a sense of what's right and wrong could watch that without getting angry
The human mind can typically handle a few well deserved critiques.
The human body can't typically handle botulism.
Replace narcissists with the word racists and it’s about right. So over reverse racism. This will one day back fire on them- good and decent white people have had enough.
“we’re women, we don’t have to have confrontation” okay botulism in a bottle
“I don’t sell medical products” 💀
Let's be clear. Chef Pin did NOT get into Wal-Mart. Dave's Gourmet got into Wal-Mart. BTW, Pink Sauce is now on clearance so that 15 minutes of fame is about to run out.
I haven’t seen it in my Walmart yet
@@amoraacho6181 it's probably a test run with it getting into x amount of stores. Walmart never puts a new product from a new vendor nationwide from the jump.
Dave's Gourmet probably gave her the contact but it's Chef Pi's responsibility to sell it. Dave's Gourmet is a contract manufacturer. They make it, not sell it. Selling is on the contractee.
I have not seen Walmart sell this.
@@amoraacho6181 lol and you won't.
When I saw that clip of Karamo defending the pink sauce woman I was totally speechless. He seemed so genuine in Fab 5 but this really put him in a new light. Making a health and safety issue about race was completely unbelievable.
Yeah there was something else he said or did that I uselessly can't remember right now that indicated to me before this that he's an asshole.
Lmao rewatch the episode where they get pulled over and how they didn't fix up the cops house after they found out he was a republican cop. Absolutely acted just like this.
He constantly plays the victim on Fab 5 too. I’m so over this dude.
@@DCfreerunnerWhat episode is this?
Racists like him hiding in plain sight... and worst of all is he won't be punished even though it was obviously a racial call he made, having done no research AT ALL into the product he was defending with his whole chest against the "yucky white woman"
Chef Pii is as allergic to accountability as she is to food safety standards.
And the allergens are not even labelled on the bottle either
Welcome to the 21st century where anyone can do what they like and then blame others for it.
Typical 21st century black person. Sorry not sorry
Fyi, Wal-Mart has trash their inventory of that pink sauce since no one buys it
Americas favorite apologies. "Im not perfect" "im going through alot"
Exactly. That applies to literally every single person alive.
Of course she doesn’t know what “FDA” means. So embarrassing. 🙄
Thank goodness this is coming back up. It was actually disgusting how he handled the situation. The lady also claimed the show wouldn't let her air the test results of the pink sauce. Just furthering the narrative they were on chef Ps side no matter what.
He is still defending chef pi
Ally does not need to learn from this, she made an honest review of a product and she got attacked by two people at once so he is still gaslighting her
Agreed
Only thing Ally learned was not to trust media to be fair just because they "asked her side". There's always an angle.
yes honest reviews always always involve the reviewer contaminating the thing that they're claiming to review. also you should always review with things you've heard and not the facts. grow up
@@jonathanbarnett7897I’ve seen less dick riding on porn sites
It's possible of course that Ally is also clout-chasing here. Otherwise, why go back on the show?
If you publicly insult someone, you apologize to them publicly. If you're cruel enough to hurt someone in front of so many people, let's hope God gave you the balls to humble yourself and apologize in front of those same people like a decent human. It's not sincere at all to give a private apology for public affronts. It means you're either too ashamed to admit what you did was wrong, or worse, you have no remorse at all.
He he had balls... Now they reside under his husband's pillow.
Out of topic but your pic is just too cute < 3
Or the third option, she didn't apologise at all. I can believe that they spoke after the interview but I find it impoosible to believe this lady is capable of remorse. Even if she did apologise it would have been some insincere nothing-burger.
he should have no remorse at all. you don't see all these people who just lied about pink sauce apologizing.
The fact they gaslit her so hard then just didn’t admit him or “chef” Pi was wrong is insane
@@yeaman9844psh 🙄
typical american tho..
"Chef" needs to be in quotes every time people refer to this woman... Real cooks know about food safety. I mean, so does anybody who has a food handler's card, so the bar was already low.
Thx for the “ “
To call that awful individual a chef is just wrong
@@miciso666 As an American - fair. Lol.
Still cannot believe that trainwreck was something that actually happened. Like imagine being literally gaslit for rightfully criticizing something that would make rat poison of all things seem safe to consume 💀
The fact that they decided to try and psychologically gaslight a food critic talking about a product tells me a lot about chef p, and the talk show host
And the fact that people have noticed that the sauce doesn't look like it was professionally prepared, speaks volumes. And the fact that she didn't know that the FDA, does handle issues with food safety, tells me just how behind the curve she is
"I think WE learned something from this. ALL of us. All THREE of us." - Hahahaha they just can't admit the horrible way they handled this. Them two ALONE. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Idk but I feel like I wouldn't be ok with these half assed apologies but she probably doesn't want any drama. Me on the other hand
🗣️ ☕
@@WizTis Hahahaha 🤣 👏👏👏👏 I don't blame you. If they pulled me back, JUST to give these pathetic sorries; I would DEFINITELY have something to say. 🤣 But I see how she's trying not to sully that brats name and business. Giving her a chance. Sweet woman
My jaw dropped when he said that. I was like he’s learned nothing, he’s sorry for nothing and I’ll continue to steer clear of his “show.” Smh
@@jonightshade2252 THANK YOU! I completely agree! The Chef Pii episode is my first time hearing about The Karamo Show. Tried giving him the benefit of the doubt, when comments started saying how right he was. But when it blew up, WHOO! 🤣Wish talk shows weren't so similar.
I knew about Karamo from Queer Eye and he was always one of my favorite members of the group until this happened. I was excited to see how he would run his talk show based on all the motivational content he'd post on his Insta but after seeing the Pink Sauce interview I immediately unfollowed him. The reviewer put in a request to the show not to be seated next to Chef Pii because their relationship was contentious and instead of accommodating her, they sat her next to Chef Pii and then Karamo brought the request up mid-interview. It just seemed like something out of a trash daytime talk show meant to stir up drama, not something run by someone with integrity. He uses a lot of flowery self-help language but his decision making is shady as hell.
Exactly, in Queer Eye you’re made to think he cares about people more than anything, but you can tell he cared more about his show’s success, and looking self righteous, rather than deescalating the conflict.
To be honest, I am always sus of anyone that based around motivational content. Probably me being cynic but unless you are like therapist or priest or something similar, probably shouldn't touch that field in such a personal way.
I can't look at QE in the same way again, makes me wonder are they all this way?
It really felt like supporting the abuser in a toxic relationship like Karamo wtf
I agree. I watched Queer Eye from when it first came out and followed this clown on Insta and as soon as I saw this garbage, I unfollowed him. How very disappointing.
"I will not invalidate your feelings" is just a modern way of saying 'I'm sorry you feel that way" when not apologizing to someone but trying to appear like you're apologizing. He didn't apologize.
I disagree.... if he said "your feelings are valid" then went on saying he wasn't really in the wrong, that would be the same as "I'm sorry you feel that way."
@@thatweirdblackgirl4259 "I'm sorry you feel that way." is a deflection not ever an apology.
@@thatweirdblackgirl4259 he said “i will not invalidate your feelings” after invalidating her feelings, how is that not saying “sorry you feel that way”?
@@lotsofoptimism he's acknowledging that he did that and is saying that going forward he will not repeat the behavior
@@thatweirdblackgirl4259 he's only saying that to save face, he wouldn't have said that all 3 of them were "learning" if he really felt sorry
Shes lucky she isnt being charged for the death of someone
What did she think the F in FDA stands for?
Fun, maybe?
I felt so bad for Ally. You can see the pain in her face the entire time, she did not want to be there.
Yeah that must have been so humiliating for her. Still can't believe this shit happened in real life and not in some satirical TV show.
I’m curious why she even agreed to go back.
Why would she agree to film if she didn’t want to be there?
@@loveourworldproductions6640 because she probably thought it would be better than last time and kind of to put an end to all this in a comforting way maybe. but it turned worse
@@loveourworldproductions6640 I mean, she likely agreed because she thought she was going to get a real apology. She then realized she wasn't and became uncomfortable.
She really gaslit, gatekept, and girlbossed her way to “success” 💀 it’s ridiculous the internet keeps giving these type of people “success”
There's already people sharing vids and pictures of the pink sauce going on clearance, I think her "success" isn't going to be very long-lived
These type of people? Naw just rachet blk women tbh.
@@TheFlowerQueen thank god, its just the fact that shes gotten this far that is still troublesome
no she didn't she made a product some of them got damaged at shipping and it became less pink over time. oh and she didn't know that the f and FDA stood for food and not federal how dare she
@@jonathanbarnett7897well she did no research on how to properly store, bottle, and ship a product using no preservatives yeah she’s a f*cking moron
Damn it’s like watching a child being told to give an apology for the first time; no accountability, just empty words of avoidance that “feels like” an apology.
What the hell does she have to “learn” from this??? Baby you gaslit and attacked her for expressing her concerns!! This is on you!!
I'm surprised they convinced her to appear on the show again, this feels like a hostage situation
The way she said "I didn't want to make a public announcement because I wanted to keep it sincere," just feels shady af really
Well that sounds better than "I'm a gutless weasel"
Ally is too nice. They straight up belittled her and kinda bullied her on tv.
she is so nice, idk if she doesnt realize how condescending they are being to her
please tell me bro gets what’s coming to him after how they gaslit that girl 💀
Trueee
He did. His show is now In the dumpster fire.
He’s a clown. He did nothing on queer eye, and nothing in this show.
@@hunterchampion5433 I'm cackling at this comment 😂😂😂😂😏
Not quite but he will. Twitter is still dragging it on. Lol!
Somebody talked to their lawyers and were told that they needed to clean that situation up because Alley could have a case against them both for mental trauma or something. So I bet they paid her some money to let it go, and Alley said "ok but im gonna need a public apology wanted as well
They keep saying "All three of us learned something". What the heck did Ally need to learn from? The only thing I could say that she needs to learn is to be less generous and accepting. She was so so so patient with them when they didn't deserve it at all.
Hopefully she learned how to sense bullshit because that's all I saw in that whole video
I'm annoyed at both of their apologies. Kurama's, or whatever his name was, apology is so tone deaf while C. Pi (because I refuse to believe she's a chef since she doesn't even know the FDA) keeps going on about not wanting to make things public after she publicly humiliated and gaslight a reviewer. She even keep falsely promoting her sauce because the sauce sold in stores look nowhere near the shjt she promotes on her tik tok. It's time like this that i wonder why people like her gets to have a platform.
Yh at least you could see the fear in karamos eyes, chef pii is acting like this is free promotion lol
Because the world is structured on what gets attention and views at any cost. The same reason most of us clicked on this video is the same reason the pink sauce lady gets attention, sadly. There's something interesting/novel and we want to see what it is. While many things are bad about media being curated by a small group of people (like it was before the internet), I think there is a lot of merit to that, as long as the curators are responsible and themselves not just promoting what will get the most views. We, as a people/humanity, need to address this as it is the most relevant factor in the mental health crisis, in my opinion. Our mental state is being driven by the min/max nature of the economy, which is extremely damaging and already bordering on dystopia. Some things are more important than the bottom line and I feel this is a lesson humanity will only learn after it is too late.
because she didn't gaslight anybody right foods made it into sauces become less bright over time. also phones and cameras don't tend to have true colors. she did not humiliate a reviewer she humiliated somebody who didn't know what they were talking about who then contaminated the thing she was reviewing right before sending it in to get tested. I'm annoyed about how stupid the internet is over this and you don't need to know what the FDA is to be a chef 99% of chefs have never dealt with the FDA.
@@jonathanbarnett7897 OK Chef Pii 🙄...Writing the same thing under every comment doesn't make you correct. It makes you look like Chef Pii as well as unhinged. And the review woman didn't add any foreign shit to her review. You're making shit up and you're the only one on here defending "Chef". LOL Says a lot about you and none of it good
@@jonathanbarnett7897 If you're selling food products you absolutely need to know what the FDA is, simp.
every time I hear that "What do you MEAN f.d.a. approved, I don't sell medical products", I cant help but chuckle.
What do they think the F stands for? Food is literally the first word there.
I feel it should be a sound remix on Tik Tok, it probably is I don't know wtf uses that brain cancer. Also eff de eh!
The pink sauce lady is never going to apologize to the people who's health and lives she put in danger with that sauce. It's crazy how she got zero consequences for potentially causing outbreaks of e coli, salmonella, or listeria. Any other food provider would have been shut down and fined immediately.
why doesn’t someone sue pink sauce lady? i am sure that lawsuit would be a straight up win.
@@Deserie710 because her victims don't have the financial means to sue. A basic lawsuit alone costs on average $10,000. The person in their mid-20s that bought her sauce on TikTok isn't going to have that kind of cash.
She's lucky to be in the temporary protected class with the black part being the clear winner.
@@SlickArmor why do you say temporary? lol
@user-bm3uo3tf3r well I'm just trying to show empathy that certain self claimed victims will actually get their supposed missing rights returned and will have no one to blame except themselves that are the causes of their supposed losses and defeats. I'm not sure how many more hundreds of years it may take as we do do switch between fraternal and maternal rule.
This was so painful to watch it feels like Ally was just a hostage during this interview and their acting like as if they really didn’t do anything wrong except Ally the only one who literally didn’t do anything wrong😐
“Please stop hating on us, we’re all friends”😂 I like how they’re still acting like the reviewer did something wrong even the slightest 😂
Even in Walmart it’s inconsistent I work in Walmart, I grabbed the first two bottle and they were both two different colors
You should secretly trash them
Throw them in the trash.
yeah they are all diff colors and its too funny
Looks like the dragon fruit it shining
At my local Walmart, they put it under a tag that said $3 (for a different product).
My sister works there and every bottle was put in reshop because no one’s dumb enough to pay $7+tax for it (they put the right label up a few days later and it hasn’t moved since 🤣).
The whole thing reminds me of when I had to confront a bully I had at school in the principal's office and she kept taking my bully's side or "trying to make it equal"
Shout out to high school me getting out into detention because I flipped off my bully lolol
9:32 it was definitely to promote her sauce not to apologize
Exactly! It's shameless! Wtf
Theres a real lack of anger on Alli's side. Id be beyond pissed. "Your apology is just as hollow as your terrible show, bastard"
The most comical part is that had people not called out that talk show host for handling it how he did and saying what he did, after it aired and the clip went viral she wouldn't have tried to apologize for anything.... she would've taken that win of him "sticking up for her" and used it as a pedestal to climb a top her high horse and rode off into the sunset.
100% They backpeddled and only like... half a foot.
@@alicethemadrabbit1842 yess! 🤣😂👏👏👏🤯😵💫
Lmao why are they even saying “all three of us learned something”? What did Ally learn? She got gaslit on a show and then was given a cover apology. Just being honest lol
She learned to never go on a TV show again
Its not okay to hurt a con artists feelings lmao
She learned that a nasty person like Chef Piss can get a brand deal while she gets gaslit and nothing else for having the audacity to bring up a product might be dangerous. The true American way.
I guess it was a lesson on gaslighting 101, she LEARNED what it felt like to gaslit lol.
It's his sad attempt at damage control while trying to avoid taking actual responsibility. He realized he couldn't run away from it by just deleting it and gave a half @$$ apology for making her "feel" gaslit when that was his exact intention in the first video. Just like a band/artist at a concert controling the vibe and energy of the audience, hosts of talk shows set the tone of who the audience sides/empathize with on stage.
Her review was probably one of the more milder/respectful ones I've seen. But they throw her under the bus because they see her as an easy target/push over. While I get she's being the bigger person by letting it go, the part of me that is fueled by unresolved rage and anger issues kind of wished she would have stood up for herself more and called them out on their behavior, especially since the reason for their alliance against her seems to have an undertone of being racially motovated. Why was she the only one targeted when there were lots of people who were more brutal (many of whom were also POC)?
Part of me thinks that while she may just be a nice person in general, that a part of her might be afraid to speak up because the climate at the moment is like walking on eggshells when it comes to so much as disagreeing with someone even over a legitimate concern.
Being young and ignorant about an industry is not an excuse for her breaking health and safety LAWS and REGULATIONS. If she has internet access to post things on tiktok, she has the internet resources to do some research on how to properly run a food based business. I doubt she even has so much as a food handlers card (bare minimum to work in a restaurant) let alone any legitimate training to call herself a "chef", if she didn't even know that F in FDA stood for "Food".
Oh jeez I loved your paragraphs. It's like a really long speech. 👏
Agreed but I've been in the restaurant industry for almost 10 years now and never heard of a food handler card. That's a new one for me lol
@@Anonymous_Eyeballs maybe it's different for some states, but it's a standard (even for front of the house employees) in the 3 states I've lived in. It's basically a certificate you have to renew every couple of years to show that you know proper hygiene and food storage standards for working with food. Your job needs to keep record of it on file and you should keep a copy on your person in case of a health inspector visit. You could get in big trouble if you have people working without it and even get shut down.
And if the establishment serves alcohol, servers or anyone selling alcohol also have to have an OLCC to show they understand laws/regulations on selling booze and that they may be held legally responsible if they don't properly card or overserve someone alcohol and that person drives drunk.
Bingo!!!!
the term chef is reserved for REAL chefs and a real chef knows what FDA approved is lol
Well she is a chef in her own mind and she didn't have to know because she don't sell medical products
Lol
@@GRaVITY2DXstraight dumb ahh😂look into what the FDA stand for goofy
@@GRaVITY2DX in order to sell food it has to be FDA approved because they regulate food as well not just medicine.
@@GRaVITY2DX /s?
Too many people using the " I was going through something personal" as an excuse to have not give her apology right aways annoys the shit out of me.
There is absolutely 0 chance this wasn't a paid promotional video. Chef pii pisses me off, man. This has been a fascinating look into a part of the internet I had no clue existed. Good videos, sir.
I love how you cover things man, you’re one person I go to just to hear about crazy shiz. Also be infuriated or upset when feeling like I’m chilling with a homie! Thanks Atozy!
They say the 3 of us learned a lesson but what exactly was Ally supposed to learn? She didn’t do anything wrong.
"don't investigate the poison because the person making the poison could get in trouble" or something along those lines
Allie's face through the whole thing just screaming, "I HATE IT HERE!"
Damn it’s like they’re still gaslighting her!🤔😅
He thought the fans would forget, they did not.
He’s ONLY apologizing because Chef Pii was still “successful”. If Chef Pii failed, he would have taken this in the COMPLETE opposite direction and create more hate towards Alle. He definitely would’ve done the attack much sooner.
Doesn't seem like her success will last long. More and more stores are putting the sauce on clearance to get rid of them
That wasn't even an apology. He still clearly has some kind of animosity towards her. He only did this to try and make himself look better while also giving Pink Sauce more advertising
He didn't even try to sound sincere!
The way Ally just has a straight face for most of the video is hilarious to me
My face would give away exactly how I'm feeling....that this is some bs 🤣
She had murder in her eyes for a couple seconds during that "apology".
she’s honestly blown away by the audacity of these people 😂 ever since the first convo on the talk show, she knew they were delusional and leveraged the race card against the only white person in the building 😂
There were black chefs and black food manufacturers, that had experience and know their shit, who reached out to her to try to help her make her product safer and satisfying to customers. She blocked them and lumped them in the same category as the trolls pretending to be on their death beds after they tried her sauce... She could have avoided the shit storm that we all got to witness. Also, the secret behind the pink sauce is mayonnaise, ranch dressing, and red dragonfruit being mixed together. IJS. AlluredBeauty was the only one who did nothing wrong. Pii and Karamo refused to acknowledge her as a concerned customer with a legit complaint and gaslit her on national TV.
All this man will amount to is that one episode. Seriously, that’s gotta hurt. He won’t even be known as the guy on queer eye. His whole entire career is that episode and the “the learning is on your part” comment. I didn’t even KNOW he had a show until I saw this. It’s so clear he does not care and only did this because he was more than likely was backed into a corner. I doubt they will renew this show after the contract ends. It’s an absolute nightmare.
also, that girl had nothing to learn. Her review was fair and honest. She has the right to give an honest and accurate opinion. It’s those two losers who need to learn something’s about operating a business and talking to people. They have no shame🙄
"Not just you Ali, no just Chef P but most importantly myself"- cause that's what really matters in this situation, what a man can learn from this situation, not public safety, not the feelings of a woman who is so traumatized she is still taking blame, but that he got to learn from this
Bingo.
The apology came to shove in the face of Ally. They are bringing attention to it by “apologizing” for what they did, but at the same time they are getting to turn around and say. But look we were right bc it’s in Walmart now. So basically like “sorry” we were right and you were wrong bc the gross ass sauce is now in Walmart.
But EHR sales are in the toilet. Shelf is always full. I’ve never seen a bottle missing
@@maryjane4432 hell I’ve never seen it period
there will be shock buyers but from what I've seen people don't like it, I don't see it lasting
This definitely feels like a PR move from Koramo and Chef P. 🙄🙄🙄 Walmart probably made them do it for her sauce to be available.
The pink lady just torched a once in a lifetime opportunity. And the talk show host hitched his cart to the wrong horse, but didn’t realize it until til it was too late. What a train wreck.
Did he just give the “I’m sorry if I made you feel that way” apology?
“I’m sorry I gaslit you” is a CRAZY thing to say omg
Why now you ask? TV shows survive or die based on ratings gathered during critical times the public has historically dubbed "Sweeps Week"; there is no actual "Sweeps Week" but there are 4 times a year where these ratings make the heaviest impact on the longevity of a TV show. Those months are: FEBRUARY, May, July, and November.
You do the math.
I still can't believe that this awful "disease on a bottle" seller got a whole brand deal and this poor woman got to be bombarded by the media
It was put on shelves in Walmart, the public reviews of the new formula are in the gutter, and Walmart has put the remaining inventory on sale
Thank you for recovering this.
Nine months later, we can safely say, Chef Pii has still not learned anything.
Why do they keep bringing up women as the focal point of the conversation? “Women can build each other up”-that’s not what this is about? Person A made a dangerous product, Person B called them out on it. Person A attacked Person B-am I missing something?
its deflection, they can't talk about the sauce being bad if they make it about woman instead
The sad thing is, She's still referred to as "Chef."
He's probably apologizing now because ratings are the potential issue. Idk, that's just my guess. His shows ratings possibly tanked and aren't recovering and this is a last ditch effort to bring them back? Idk just a guess.
He half ass apologized. He didn't apologize for what he honestly should have. He only did it because he was losing his fan base and followers over it
It's crazy how people get rewarded for being super toxic these days. This pink lady is a manifestation of the deeper problems our society faces.
I’m not buying the product. Idc another business is helping. How she treated that customer on Karmo made my blood boil.
I saw Pink Sauce in stock at my local Walmart and wanted to buy a bottle to recreate the recipe and give the recipe for free. I am an ex chef and have been developing recipes for 25 years. I hesitated to give her money. At the time there were almost 100 reviews on the Walmart site and almost all were negative. I admit there were many reviews stating her bad attitude, but a lot said it tasted like garbage, something along the lines of vinegar flavored ranch dressing with a bad after taste.
That is a recipe not worthy to create on my own dime.
Now Walmart reviews are up to 304 and a 2 star rating.
Dude, you should get in touch with Ally and the two of you should create your own “Pink” sauce. I’ll bet yours would blow Chef Pii’s out of the water! That would be the ultimate retaliation IMO…hell, I would buy it for that reason alone!
Maybe pink sauce will sponsor season 2 of Velma.
If you want a recipe for making it, the only person who seems to have figured it out was the "How to cook that" channel by Ann Reardon. Everyone was accusing chef pii of lying about the ingredients because there was no emulsifier, but Ann actually tested Dragonfruit and showed that it makes a stable emulsion.
Chef pii is pretty crappy, but everyone claimed the ingredients list was a lie without ever actually attempting to make it.
Yeah, the initial interview really felt like they were racially banding against someone with Genuine concerns for public safety. Then they probably got atrocious backlash because of it, considering the episode was deleted (why would that happen?) and they had to do this whole follow up where Karamo apologizes like you said, blanket statement, Alle didn't smile with her whole face once, just those fake mouth smiles for the public appearance, she basically shook her head and was like get me out of this. Completely disrespected the first time she met those two, and basically beat like a dead horse in front of America with the second release. Honestly, pretty fucking pathetic, they'll rip her apart for having a genuinely concerned opinion of a product, and the creator of said product, takes her hand gently just to tell her in front of millions that she as a white woman isn't special, while racially banding with the host is once again, genuinely pathetic.
Not "probably got backlash"...They DID get backlash! Well he did on his channel and this is one of the reasons I assume that he did this follow up.
Exactly. And just think this sheeeet is happening more then ever... It is acceptable to hate white ppl for simply no reason! Deradicalization needed!!!
To be fair, I’m glad he apologized and acknowledged his wrong doing. If he never apologized at all, it would be a bigger issue. I think you’re expecting unrealistic expectations.
"So weve reached the end of the pink sauce saga." That comment aged well 😅
this lady coming from tik tok is very on brand for her behavior yet people act surprised that shes a goofball
"I'm sorry I gaslit you" is....quite a line to hear come from someone. lol. But yeah the apology very much feels performative rather than sincere. It feels like he HAS to give it rather than it being something he is truly sorry for
Ally is so humble and has handled the whole situation with grace. Or at least a lot more than what the rest of us could hope to muster up in ridiculous and infuriating situations likes these. Truly a Queen.
Love how he never apologized for not doing ANY research for his own show 🙄 only did this because he realized no one was letting him get away with it
In the second largest media market (Los Angeles), this tool's show is on at 2:35am, it isn't even listed on Karamo's website anymore. The station that airs it originally showed it at 4pm, and has been replaced by the news.