MHWorld Iceborne | Metal Raths Comparison - A Shiny Upgrade

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  • @VirusesX01
    @VirusesX01 4 роки тому +429

    the worst thing about metal raths in iceborne are those damn stalactites in Elder Recess, really frustrating stuff

    • @oceanman7336
      @oceanman7336 4 роки тому +25

      Are they just drawn to being in that one area to fuck with us or was that a deliberate choice?

    • @ZaylaaZiaa
      @ZaylaaZiaa 4 роки тому +28

      Honestly fucks things up since behemoth, what the hell were the devs thinking while creating that pointless shitty thing

    • @fuzzythoughts8020
      @fuzzythoughts8020 4 роки тому +3

      Fuckin agreed

    • @trashkingkaktus
      @trashkingkaktus 4 роки тому +11

      especially when you use insect glaive bro omfg im out here in the air and i get knocked out like wtfff

    • @lordofdarkness4204
      @lordofdarkness4204 4 роки тому +3

      Basically the area, not the actual fights.

  • @n-aera
    @n-aera 4 роки тому +303

    Poncho Henry has become one of my favorite characters in youtube lmao

    • @luciferjho9298
      @luciferjho9298 4 роки тому +7

      That's Mr. Veteran Hunter.

    • @n-aera
      @n-aera 4 роки тому +15

      @@luciferjho9298 yeah but Poncho Henry sounds funnier

    • @Psych0boost
      @Psych0boost 4 роки тому +12

      The Herny subspecies

    • @knird1311
      @knird1311 4 роки тому +3

      His names herny bro

    • @gitgud9704
      @gitgud9704 4 роки тому +3

      3000+ hours minimum veteran hunter

  • @dad5draco
    @dad5draco 4 роки тому +223

    Do you guys remember when you tried to run away from Gold Rathian, and then she ran up to you and cartwheeled.

    • @XenojinHayabusa615
      @XenojinHayabusa615 4 роки тому +8

      All too well 😔

    • @darkshibe2267
      @darkshibe2267 4 роки тому +9

      HAHA! Yeah she's... she's intense.

    • @mhplayer
      @mhplayer 4 роки тому +11

      Do you remember when someone told you that you have to cut silveros' tail in mhfu? And then you get to the tail and instantly die because it does as much damage, whatever is the current monster's state (attacking with tail does as much damage as getting hit by it when the monster screams for example, and if it makes its *i'm mad so i scratch the ground* animation: IT . HITS . 3 . TIMES . A SECOND. Meaning you get practically oneshoted by it whatever is your armor, weapon or whatever you're doing as long it makes you go under the tail.)

    • @ethanmorrow4241
      @ethanmorrow4241 4 роки тому +2

      I got my ass handed to me by that move so many times! 😂😂

  • @Silvanity_
    @Silvanity_ 4 роки тому +109

    I'm glad they got rid of Gold Rathians instant transmission into instant backflip and Silver Rathalos' grounded lazy Susan fire blast.

    • @SonGoku5363
      @SonGoku5363 2 роки тому +1

      *transition. instant transmission is goku's teleport ability xD

  • @TheIndyRex
    @TheIndyRex 4 роки тому +200

    Shout out to Yian Garuga!
    The absolute best update to a fight anyone could ask for.

    • @mahranramadhan
      @mahranramadhan 4 роки тому +2

      For real

    • @darkshibe2267
      @darkshibe2267 4 роки тому +35

      YES! I HATED GARUGA IN 4U. So was in PTSD mode when it came in Iceborne. But then the fight began and now... it's up there with Seething and Ruiner as one of my favourite fights. They took out all the BS with moves that had no tell, or obvious way to avoid. But still kept it's insane personality. Tons of moves that keep you on your toes, but never feels unfair.

    • @riemaennchen
      @riemaennchen 4 роки тому +10

      Definitely. I hated this psycho chicken so much during Freedom Unite. Now I acutally enjoy fighting him.

    • @Khezu_in_the_mountain
      @Khezu_in_the_mountain 4 роки тому +3

      I disagree. I feel that i IB they did him dirty. He feels so slow and is attacks do like no damage. Not to mention he has odogaron tail flip levels of tiny hitbox attacks. The moveset changes are good, but he's slow, does no damage,has tny hitboxes and only has 2 turf wars ( both of which suck) and he honestly just feels like a pathetic, crippled version of himself. Very similar to deadeye in that regard for me.

    • @darkshibe2267
      @darkshibe2267 4 роки тому

      @@Khezu_in_the_mountain fair enough. About a year ago (after playing through world) I went back to 4u. Admittedly I had a much better time against him. I think that was mostly personal experience. But still I hated the times that him and even kut ku would just lunge forward with no warning. Felt cheap. Are there any fights in IB that you think are cheap? Or maybe a better way of phrasing it... any you do find challenging? And just so I can get an idea, what weapons do you use?
      Yesterday I was taking on a tempered lunastra in the GL. I can take on most of the game fairly cleanly, but she... she still does my head in. I died like 2 or 3 times.

  • @bill_goldenjw8023
    @bill_goldenjw8023 4 роки тому +130

    "I never die."
    Duh... I don't die either. I just kart and failed the quest.

    • @flagro770
      @flagro770 4 роки тому +10

      I never kart.
      I just cart.

    • @RES_Hamm
      @RES_Hamm 4 роки тому +2

      white fatalis sends his regards

  • @lynxfresh5214
    @lynxfresh5214 4 роки тому +159

    I'm just glad Gold Rath actually looks well "gold" with the shiny metallic scales instead of a sun-burnt paint-bucket (ironic since gold rath is supposed to represent the moon).

    • @Godzillakuj94
      @Godzillakuj94 4 роки тому +17

      I'm honestly glad their textures didn't end up as dull looking as the other two Raths in the base game. Glad Iceborne is more vibrant in general.

    • @Str8Wildcat
      @Str8Wildcat 4 роки тому +6

      I always thought the gold rath in MHX was awful yellow and not quite gold

    • @BragoTHEgraviyKING
      @BragoTHEgraviyKING 4 роки тому +3

      Just be glad you never saw the atrocitie that mhp3rd gold rath. Looks like someone smeared piss all over her

    • @lordofdarkness4204
      @lordofdarkness4204 4 роки тому +9

      Cameron Kujas Gold in general looks great in World and Iceborne. Look at Kulve Taroth.

    • @sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf
      @sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf 3 роки тому +6

      Why is she the moon when the sun is yellow, why is he the sun when the moon is whit, it makes no sense

  • @Fluffysbeans
    @Fluffysbeans 4 роки тому +31

    "You shouldn't want a flying wyvern to not fly for the hunt to be good"
    Glares at shrieking legiana.
    (It's not that I find shrieking hard, it's just a completely unenjoyable fight that I only do if I need parts, never just for giggles because it walked into my path)

    • @CleopatraKing
      @CleopatraKing 3 роки тому +5

      Not even Gaijin hunter likes that fight. Legiana in general, a cool monster design, terrible fight.
      I do what herny does and just Pierce Hbg/Lbg it

    • @yaqubebased1961
      @yaqubebased1961 Рік тому

      The worst part of that doodoo trash fight is the constant intrusion of regular legiana

  • @Rhapsodos_X
    @Rhapsodos_X 4 роки тому +471

    No, you're wrong, falling spikes. Period.

    • @Godzillakuj94
      @Godzillakuj94 4 роки тому +79

      Really should patch those out

    • @penguindragon0155
      @penguindragon0155 4 роки тому +24

      i agree, although its more of a problem of the one and only area they can show up in on quests/expeditions.

    • @Godzillakuj94
      @Godzillakuj94 4 роки тому +34

      @@penguindragon0155 all the more reason to give us a new tower map

    • @apathy2454
      @apathy2454 4 роки тому +7

      Rhaps X as soon as you mount them they run right to the spikes too lol

    • @Hernyy
      @Hernyy  4 роки тому +67

      Rhaps X that’s actually why so much of my footage was from arena quests lmao I appreciate that they don’t leave that area in Elder’s but those damn spikes are op.

  • @ian_fivenumbers7957
    @ian_fivenumbers7957 4 роки тому +100

    2:26
    I was at that stream, and I remember you just, "needed some death footage"

  • @mooppoop5161
    @mooppoop5161 4 роки тому +174

    A shiny new look and brand new bullshit with these two lmao
    also kinda bummed that they don't have a *bond with* kinda thing like teo and luna

    • @jordanbutler6702
      @jordanbutler6702 4 роки тому +39

      Pretty sure if you manage to get two metal raths on the map, their 'hellfire' modes actually enhance each other. Hence, why you should efficiently clap some wyvern tail before they call for help 👌

    • @saint-xiv2649
      @saint-xiv2649 4 роки тому +36

      if they are both in the guiding lands, they will let out a deep scary roar and they will come to each other's defense, same with the legianas

    • @randomnpc445
      @randomnpc445 4 роки тому +16

      @@saint-xiv2649 the normal raths do that as well, not exclusive to the metal ones.

    • @SWARVB
      @SWARVB 4 роки тому +2

      In the hunter's note it says they do. I was disappointed it never happened. Was looking forward to seeing something cool.

    • @jordanbutler6702
      @jordanbutler6702 4 роки тому +7

      @@SWARVB Well if you're expecting Teo & Leo bonding time, yes you'd be disappointed. Their hellfire attacks can mix and make bigger boom and deadlier fire carpet... if you ask for evidence, I apologize because I wasn't recording at the time. I'm sure there's footage out there somewhere

  • @Boss_Corgi
    @Boss_Corgi 4 роки тому +31

    Wild Arms OST bringing a tear to this old man’s eyes. Good taste.

  • @benjaminherrera539
    @benjaminherrera539 4 роки тому +78

    For me silver rath is pretty difficult but I can still solo him its just that its flying pattern is different and keeps spamming long range fire attacks

    • @Mojospider2099
      @Mojospider2099 4 роки тому

      Same

    • @MrCharly780
      @MrCharly780 4 роки тому +1

      True my best time for gold is 4min but my top time for silver is 6

  • @Crasuk
    @Crasuk 4 роки тому +14

    MHW was my first MH game. So i didn't know Rathalos before. The first time i fought him with a friend we barely manage to kill him. But it was awesome and really satisfying. I loved him since than and Silverlos even more. He is my favorite Monster and i'm pretty sad that his armor isn't that great.

    • @BoostedMonkey05
      @BoostedMonkey05 3 роки тому +1

      Depends on you. Dual blades can really take advantage of true crit element plus the yian garuga legs for some top elemental deeps.

  • @jackcoulter1578
    @jackcoulter1578 4 роки тому +58

    XX Hyper Silver Rathalos still gives me nightmares

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 4 роки тому +5

      Biggest asshole of the entire Game, yes.
      Was often near ragequitting while fighting him, and I never think about doing this otherwhise.

    • @darkop3191
      @darkop3191 4 роки тому +2

      The only consistent way I had with randoms was FLASH BOMB FLASH BOMB FLASH BOMB

    • @jackcoulter1578
      @jackcoulter1578 4 роки тому

      That’s the only way to do it

    • @jordanwilliam3207
      @jordanwilliam3207 4 роки тому +1

      @@darkop3191 I used Aerial -Switch Sword- Switch Axe and spamming helluva lot of Flash Bombs. Usually, I hate Flash spamming, but with Hyper Silver Rathalos, I don't think I could hold myself any further lol.

    • @mhplayer
      @mhplayer 4 роки тому +1

      Mhfu is the one that gave me nightmares.
      The tail oneshots you when it isn't attacking. I'm not joking, the tail kills you actually faster than silveros' most damaging attack ( the claw attack, insane damage, gives poison and ALWAYS stuns you). Oh and the tail is hard as sh*t to cut cause of the sharpness needed and the amount of damage you have to deal. The only way you can cut the tail is by making him fall and by putting 4 entire combos on the very end of it.

  • @officialc1459
    @officialc1459 4 роки тому +48

    Silver rath went from one of my most hated monsters to one of my favorite fights in iceborne

    • @Walamonga1313
      @Walamonga1313 4 роки тому +4

      Same but Gold Rath got it even better and it became my fav fight

    • @BoostedMonkey05
      @BoostedMonkey05 3 роки тому +4

      Silver Los is better than Azure Rathalos. Change my mind.

    • @athos9293
      @athos9293 8 місяців тому

      ​@@BoostedMonkey05 this isn't a hot take or anything, just common sense

  • @knightslayer6161
    @knightslayer6161 4 роки тому +12

    HAHAHA FINALLY!!!! IVE BEEN TRYING TO CATCH A HERNY VIDEO ALL YEAR. AND NOW THAT IVE GOT ONE, I’m gonna watch it 100 times over.

  • @riemaennchen
    @riemaennchen 4 роки тому +3

    One thing I do like a lot more about the Metal Raths is that they now actually look like gold and silver. Well Rathalos was kinda silvery before but Rathian was more piss yellow and not gold.

  • @ocafrotar2680
    @ocafrotar2680 4 роки тому +4

    That intro was so good lmao, the failed coin flip alone had me adding this vid to my favorites

  • @korb9689
    @korb9689 4 роки тому +15

    Honestly I think the reason the metal raths are easier to fight now I die to the improvements of all the weapons fluidity and less about clutch claw but great video

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 4 роки тому

      Yeah, its so insanly easy to dodge Goldians swipe now.

  • @kamilrud5661
    @kamilrud5661 4 роки тому +19

    10:35 Is that a Mizutsune LS mod? Good lord I need that right now.

    • @demonminer8093
      @demonminer8093 4 роки тому +2

      Console player here. I want those mods so bad. But I dont wanna waste money. Def gonna get the next big my game on PC if it comes there

  • @icemythic6076
    @icemythic6076 4 роки тому +2

    Another time the claw comes in clutch is with light weapons you can make the metal Raths drop Slinger Thorns and thos puppies pack some serious KO potential. Just another way to create an opening.

  • @Sharingon700
    @Sharingon700 4 роки тому +2

    Is that Wild Arms music in the background? Man's got taste.

  • @barrybeakdriver
    @barrybeakdriver 4 роки тому +6

    A Yian Garuga comparison video would be great. Like how the hell did they somehow make Garuga of all things more enjoyable than Tigrex and Nargacuga, its pretty amazing

    • @flagmuffin1221
      @flagmuffin1221 4 роки тому

      I can't imagine Garuga being even worse than I find him World. The crackhead rathian is so annoying to fight, hearing that it was worse in previous makes me shudder.

    • @rhealize
      @rhealize 4 роки тому

      what? tigrex and narga are much better fight (especially narga) than garuga..at least both has more predictable move, but garura has some move that you thought that he will move a bit faster but it takes a abit slower to react, kinda ruin the timing to evade/counter.. i really didnt enjoy garuga fight at all because of the inconsistent move

  • @mctankies
    @mctankies 4 роки тому +7

    Alternate title:
    The Grapes of Rath 🍇

  • @choblee9576
    @choblee9576 4 роки тому +5

    I was honestly surprised to find myself enjoying gold Rath considering that rathian in general is probably one of my most hated fights in the old games.

  • @hijikili2656
    @hijikili2656 3 роки тому +1

    3:16 "thats another topic of another video-"
    Yet we never have it

  • @Pog2_
    @Pog2_ 4 роки тому +1

    Man, the moment I have some bad thoughts for the first time in a while, you come in with this video. Thanks man, it made my day. :)

  • @Karpata1
    @Karpata1 4 роки тому +1

    Although quite a niche thing I really enjoyed how they changed up my experience as a former Great Sword main (I really dislike the Greatsword in World) when I first fought them in 2nd G . The way I had to relearn charge timings and positioning to hit the wings or their "shoulder" where the wings connected to their body instead of the head made it feel like an entirely different fight and I really enjoyed them in that game.

  • @bankuei
    @bankuei 4 роки тому

    Thank you for these comparison videos. I played a tiny amount of MH1 and a lot of 3U and missed everything in between until World and it's cool to get a bit more history and idea of some of the monsters. Also you manage to find the right balance of skits to content.

  • @rafalos-zx6go
    @rafalos-zx6go 4 роки тому +4

    First time commenting on your videos. I missed these uploads so much. Keep up the great work.

  • @ryaquaza3offical
    @ryaquaza3offical 4 роки тому +5

    I really not sure if I’d call this an upgrade, especially when you can only really fight them in a normal area they are basically impossible to separate and stay in the same area making the fight pretty boring or frustrating depending on how prepared you are. It’s like the tower experience except instead of it being a unique location with unique music and the fact your locked in there with them, it’s the same old music and area and you can just run away whenever. Doesn’t help their move set, especially on Rathian gets super repetitive once you learn to avoid her attacks.
    If you fought them in pervious games in areas like the swamp they can appear where ever whenever, and if your fighting both of them they can be difficult to keep apart but not impossible, giving some variety in locations and something else to keep track of, in world if your fighting both of them, your fighting both of them, there’s nothing you can do about it. It’s kinda like they wanted to make the tower style fight without actually putting the effort in to make an arena, resulting in probably the most stubborn raths I’ve ever seen when it comes to travel.
    I’ve never found the metal raths that enjoyable to fight, same thing with most rathalos variations (especially dreadking, screw that spam lord!) but the world versions of gold and silver just feel boring to fight, if not cheap in the case of silver rathalos. So like a lot of things in world I really wouldn’t consider this an upgrade in any way besides graphically

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah, I agree.
      I kinda liked Rathian at first, but now shes just boring.
      Rathalos is unbearable, expecialy Azur whit his Combospamming.
      Gold is the only Rath worth coming back. She is kinda need to fight, mostly fair, had all of Rathians Moves and is a need Challenge.
      Dreadqueen is to agressive whit Poison that potent. And to big to avoid reliably, but otherwhise very unique and interesting.
      Cant understand why he described Dreadking as "unique". Hes fast and had an Atomic Blast, thats it.

    • @Dave_Chrome
      @Dave_Chrome 4 роки тому +3

      That's fair, at least what you said about locations
      I think the Iceborne movesets are the most complex they've ever been for these monsters, and can be more enjoyable for that reason. While this is not much of an argument, I personally find them fresh and exciting. Plus I've always been a fan of the rare Raths. It's like they're the core strengths of the Raths at the fullest capacity (true mastery over sky and land).

  • @rory9649
    @rory9649 4 роки тому +21

    I'm having a really hard time in life since 2 weeks after my gf broke up with me for a cuck, I discovered your channel 3 days ago and I'm watching straight all of your videos since
    This is so relaxing and I learn a lot about MHGU that I just started recently, don't stop doing your stuff man, your "everything" is great
    A big thanks, and sorry for my bad english !

  • @ZebraQuake
    @ZebraQuake 4 роки тому +81

    Wait... Metal Raths are RARE species, not subspecies :^)

    • @XenojinHayabusa615
      @XenojinHayabusa615 4 роки тому +13

      They're...kinda both 😗

    • @tylermacgregor1320
      @tylermacgregor1320 4 роки тому +28

      Rare species are still subspecies

    • @reshi606
      @reshi606 4 роки тому

      Yea was about to say

    • @appleseed8282
      @appleseed8282 4 роки тому +16

      @@tylermacgregor1320 Nah dude. Deeper stratification, rares are said to be on level with elders in strength. Subs are just different.

    • @lordofdarkness4204
      @lordofdarkness4204 4 роки тому +14

      Apple Seed no. All rare species are subspecies but not all subspecies are rare species. You are right about power levels but that doesn’t change their classification

  • @BaggiMan24
    @BaggiMan24 4 роки тому +1

    I remember watching your speed runs back in the day, glad to see you're still making content. Coming from someone who's been with this series since the early days, I'm loving these comparison videos, keep it up 💯🔥
    (Also, Zinogre/S.Zinogre for the next comparison pls. I honestly can't decide which version I enjoy more, would love to hear your thoughts.)

  • @theschachter9816
    @theschachter9816 4 роки тому +3

    Hey Herny, great video! I just want to comment on what you said about these kinds of videos as the start, about trying to compare them without having a "clear winner". Honestly, even if your goal is to make the comparison as fair and as "objective" as possible, I think it's totally fine to be honest with yourself and your audience about your own preferences when you make them. Our feelings are always going to influence the way we analyze and compare monsters (or most things related to game design). If our goal is to be fair and objective, we have to take a step back and take stock of those preferences, and I think it's best to share what we've noted with the audience so they can understand where we're coming from, so that we can compare our own tastes and experiences with yours when we take in your info and your arguments.
    For example, for the Ranjang comparison video, as someone who had watched your Generations Rajang guide a few times, it was pretty clear to me that you loved that monster's original design and that this was informing the frustrations you were sharing with new Rajang. But for me, who rarely hunted it in the old games and who ended up getting a ton of Tempered Rajang T3 investigations in Iceborne, I ended up liking new Rajang a bit more; and knowing where you're coming from, what your preconceptions about the monster were, it was a lot easier to understand and consider your thoughts on new vs old Rajang.
    I'm sure I'm not teaching you anything you haven't already considered, but personally as an audience member, I enjoy it when creators open up about their own thoughts and feelings when they analyze games (and media and general), even if it's just to give us a "disclaimer" of sorts.

  • @Walamonga1313
    @Walamonga1313 4 роки тому

    The weird spatial intros are 👌🏻
    Also, the funnest fight in whole Iceborne is imo Gold Rathian vs Hunting Horn

  • @TheBrownestFalcon
    @TheBrownestFalcon 4 роки тому +3

    Also Herny, was all the music in this video yours? A lot of us would love a link/upload to some of it, it's REALLY good!

    • @RPGeenius
      @RPGeenius 4 роки тому +1

      The music at the beginning was wild arms I believe and at the end the main theme to final fantasy 13.

  • @thelmcobra5052
    @thelmcobra5052 4 роки тому +1

    Man I'm so glad you talked about how clutch claw actually makes some fights better. It's something I hardly ever hear when people talk about the pros and cons of the clutch claw, and although I still think the claw has a lot of flaws, it has the potential to make flying enemy fights in particular much more fun. Velkhana is my favorite monster in Iceborne, partly because I just really like icy dragons, but also because I think the fight is exceptionally well designed. What's relevant to this conversation though is how 2 out of Velkhana's 3 flying attacks, which also happen to be the most common ones she uses in the air, can be completely dodged using clutch claw. This allows the fight itself to work in weakening her sides and wings much better once you understand that these flying attacks are openings for clutch weakening, just like Silverlos and Goldian do.
    Anyways, great vid as per usual Herny!

  • @grantowens7537
    @grantowens7537 4 роки тому

    Seeing the comparisons between Brachy(Raging too), Yian, Zinogre, Teostra and Kushala would be awesome. Thanks for all your hard work!

  • @akmalamni
    @akmalamni 4 роки тому

    Stumbled upon your MH videos, now I’m hooked! So informative while also entertaining to watch

  • @renjiabarai8470
    @renjiabarai8470 4 роки тому +1

    I like that rare species get a level 2 rage mode now, make them more distinct than the other.
    It started with molten tigrex iirc i hope future ones have one as well

  • @Syphus.99
    @Syphus.99 4 роки тому

    Love the amount of love and passion you put into these videos man, from the music, the editing, and the commentary. Been looking for a channel like since my MHFU days. You got a new subscriber 👍🏼

  • @darkop3191
    @darkop3191 4 роки тому +4

    Hyper Silver Rath in XX: Flash bomb flash bomb...

  • @jotarokujo3603
    @jotarokujo3603 4 роки тому +16

    Monster Hunters: “It sure sucks when these wyverns fly”
    Moonlight butterfly: Hold my souls.

  • @sup3760
    @sup3760 4 роки тому

    This is just one of those videos I keep rewatching because it’s so good. Even though I still haven’t played mhw.

  • @fuzzythoughts8020
    @fuzzythoughts8020 4 роки тому +14

    I honestly really don't like fighting any of the Rath variants in Iceborne, or Legiana, or basically anything that spends the whole fight in the air. Sure, it was too easy to bully Rath before iceborne, but was the correct response to that making Rath the most annoying fight in the game next to "Oh look your iceblighted again" Velkana?
    I'm not the kinda player who sees the monster being in the air 90% of the fight as a "challenge to be overcome", I see it as Capcom just making a bad fight that isn't fun or even worth doing tbh. Although to be fair, I hate a lot of the BS in these games, like getting hit by attacks that didn't actually touch you, the hitboxes in this game are all kinds of whack, Monsters hit you with the air 7 feet away from their tail, but you can swing a longsword through their chest and you miss because only the tip entered the monster. its dumb.

    • @Yama-qg3il
      @Yama-qg3il 4 роки тому +6

      just dodge Velkhanas beam bru it's not that hard

    • @ClassicThermite
      @ClassicThermite 4 роки тому +12

      Velkhana is one of the easiest/fairest fights in the game lol

    • @bowserfriend
      @bowserfriend 4 роки тому +4

      Have you fought plesioth before?
      The hitboxes in this game is too damn good compared to the bullshit the old games had
      Also if you don't like iceblight just get one rescusitate jewel, it makes iceblight basically not exist for one level 1 slot

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 4 роки тому +1

      I even consider Legiana decent, just because shes more unique then some other World additions.
      Kushala in the other Hand is horrible.
      You cant even clutch onto his head, because his wind pushes you...
      A wind what covers most of his body, except! the head.
      Yeah... Clutchclaw hitboxes and regular hitboxes arent the same.
      Most of the Clutchclaw ones are worst. Barrioths tackle as well.
      His tail cant hit you while using that move, but it can toss you of.
      I call Bullshit.
      Steve, and Astalos are the best flying Flying Wyvern. There dont fly except for repositioning and short Attacks what ends allways in them landing.
      Even old World Kushala was a fine aerial Matchup.

    • @Yama-qg3il
      @Yama-qg3il 4 роки тому +9

      @@Sunaki1000 Kushala is the worst elder by a longshot, and I've heard some people say that Velkhana is a Kushala clone which is really fucking retarded.

  • @NkuhanaTheUndone
    @NkuhanaTheUndone 4 роки тому +3

    Poncho Hunter Herny (PHH) is one of the best goddamn characters in all fiction imo

  • @SirChubblesSteen
    @SirChubblesSteen 4 роки тому +1

    The clutch claw was a great additions in my opinion, though some weapons got a better upgrade than others. The only thing I would agree on is maybe extending the wound mechanic to soften monsters. Or at least have a decoration to do it.

    • @razor5694
      @razor5694 4 роки тому

      All weapons should tenderize and drop slinger in 1 hit plus have a move incorporated like the DBs so it's more fluid. And get rid of wall bangs, fights are way too scripted because of them

  • @Paulieee
    @Paulieee 4 роки тому

    Always a treat to see a new vid from you! :D I hope one on Yian Garuga is coming :)

  • @Thunderbrox
    @Thunderbrox 4 роки тому

    Love you work Herny. A video on Dreadking/queen would be awesome, my favourite takes on the Raths.

  • @birumerah2896
    @birumerah2896 4 роки тому +2

    When I heard "the points don't matter" I'm remembering whose line it anyways lol

  • @nollkokossus7446
    @nollkokossus7446 4 роки тому +1

    What I would like to have a comparison about is Barioth. Especially how breaking the new Barioths parts somehow makes it kinda more mobile then before, compared to the old Barioth.

    • @riemaennchen
      @riemaennchen 4 роки тому +1

      I wouldn't say he becomes more mobile. He "moves" more because he slides a lot and keeps falling over but his attack frequency goes down quite a bit if you break his claws. Especially in areas with walls for him to jump on it makes a huge difference. Without broken claws he can chain his jumping attacks pretty much nonstop.

    • @nollkokossus7446
      @nollkokossus7446 4 роки тому

      riemaennchen and that’s the problem. Sure he attacks less when you break his wings, but you also get to attack him less, because you are to busy chasing after the damn bastard because he slit 10km away. He would need to be incapacitated for longer for that to be a true downside for him.
      The fight will get less intense yes, I agree with that, but it will not really cut down on your kill time, since he is probably already back on his feet and starting the next attack before you even reach him.

  • @nicholaslewis6182
    @nicholaslewis6182 4 роки тому

    Dude I miss your videos. No pressure here but it’s so refreshing to have fun “conversations” about my favorite series of games. There’s always a technical feel to these videos without adding elitism. The humor is always appreciated. Keep up the good works mang!

  • @UFOToaster
    @UFOToaster 4 роки тому

    The GU stream last week was really fun! Will definitely check out your stream again if i catch it.

  • @jUppers
    @jUppers 4 роки тому +8

    melee users: no, you cant just effortlessly stunlock rathalos out of the air whenever you please!
    sticky lvl3: haha sticky ammo go brmbrmbrmbrmbrm
    i hate fighting both of these with switchaxe

    • @QuinquetPourpre
      @QuinquetPourpre 4 роки тому +1

      Wait, there's smthg else than stickies in this game ? Oh my, I've used them for so long I forgot about the other weapons

  • @laythalsibai9848
    @laythalsibai9848 4 роки тому +5

    Anyone else cried when veteran hunter pulled up😪 good times

  • @cleruuuuu
    @cleruuuuu 2 роки тому

    I wish I didn't get to see the hellfire mode here because it looked so cool and I'd probably be scared shitless when I witness it first hand
    regardless, nice vid! I really hated Hyper Silver Los and it was nice both of them were improved.

  • @GoatFelon
    @GoatFelon 4 роки тому +1

    What's the music that kicks in at 6:48 ? I can't quite remember what it's from, but I love it.
    Fantastic video by the way Herny, I love the conversations you have with yourself.

    • @masterhind2036
      @masterhind2036 4 роки тому +1

      Pokemon Diamond and Pearl

    • @karolklch83
      @karolklch83 4 роки тому

      @@masterhind2036 thanks i was wondering what song it was sins rajang comparison

  • @caseyking8394
    @caseyking8394 4 роки тому

    Ok but the music is great and I love the little clips of it. Wish I could record such clean tracks.

  • @ridleyroid9060
    @ridleyroid9060 4 роки тому +6

    @1:40 I'm not sure I see what the issue is. The video was meant to address the grievances with the new Rajang in comparison to the old. It was a far more critical video because you had genuine critiques of the new Rajang. Maybe this is a "creator disgruntled with his own work" syndrome very common among creative people such as yourself, but I think this self-beat up was a biiiiit unnecessary.
    To be fair tho I hate new Rajang so a video honestly analyzing his moveset and pointing out the clear design flaws in his fight instead of the typical "lol git gud scrub" I get from this community was a bit cathartic so I can't say I'm not biased.

    • @akzone45
      @akzone45 4 роки тому

      I used to think that, now after hunting him a ton and remembering his moves I love fighting him. He gets more annoying with friends tho but so does any monster.

  • @JeffGranja27
    @JeffGranja27 3 роки тому

    In GU we had many hunter arts that were supposed to help us against Metal Raths, but I just can't beat these guys since I was so used to fight them with old school CB from 4U, I still can't believe I can easily sub 12 (not speedrunner of course) Ahtal-Ka with most blademaster weapons but not even sub 30 the Metal Raths, my PS4 died right before Iceborne came so I wasn't able to try the new Raths but hearing that they got so many improvements fill me with joy since I always loved their designs

  • @ardvark3131
    @ardvark3131 4 роки тому +10

    Herny's an Akatsuki member confirmed.

    • @XenojinHayabusa615
      @XenojinHayabusa615 4 роки тому +2

      Next thing you know, he's gonna have the rinnegan lol

    • @ardvark3131
      @ardvark3131 4 роки тому +1

      @@XenojinHayabusa615 The monsters of hidden world village gotta look out.

  • @PipePlazaStudios
    @PipePlazaStudios 4 роки тому

    Legit good shit.
    I'd give one "criticism" though. No one is free from bias and pretending to be has little value imo, you don't have to apologize for preferring Old Rajang to New Rajang.
    I say this as someone who likes New World Rajang just fine, I enjoy watching you express yourself and it'd be a shame if that was stifled by the idea of not wanting to disagree with people.

  • @ode-blu
    @ode-blu 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the video herny... Please stay safe too.

  • @huntert7650
    @huntert7650 4 роки тому

    I think it says a lot that Goldian was what made me stop playing my first MH game, but now in World I get excited to fight her.

  • @hedigharnous2527
    @hedigharnous2527 4 роки тому

    This Final Fantasy XIII music at the end 👌🏼❤️ Nice video 💪🏼

  • @shadowcatch4731
    @shadowcatch4731 4 роки тому

    Tbh the rath family of monsters has been my favorite line of monster since I've started playing. Granted I did start with world so I havent seen them at their worst but I still really enjoy fighting them.

  • @MonsterHunterPH
    @MonsterHunterPH 4 роки тому

    These videos are so cathartic, it helps me cleanse the doo doo trash inside me.

  • @darkshibe2267
    @darkshibe2267 4 роки тому +2

    My first mh game was 4u. Silver Rath was so hard that it made me stop playing the game. It was maybe 6 months to a year before I picked that up again. Perhaps more. I like the new incarnations, but Gold Rath in particular still feels like a high blood pressure challenge.

  • @trashkingkaktus
    @trashkingkaktus 4 роки тому

    i think the older s rath and g rath are more rewarding cause they wee extremely difficult but they were high rewarding with money to armor and materials and made you feel a sense of accomplishment especially with the one quest with hyper s rath and g rath in the forlorn arena was absolute hell but a sense of greatness when you finally kill them. but i like them in iceborne cause theyre fun and not so raging and challenging like they were last gen. in the old game was very strategic and lots of planning and teamwork was in but in the new game its mostly whatever and anyone is on their own unless someone is caring enough. both are very different and they're unique in their own ways

  • @S34Mii
    @S34Mii 4 роки тому

    Only thing this video was missing was some Diddy Kong Racing music! (Unless I missed it...) Otherwise, awesome vid bro!

  • @gentlehoovy5555
    @gentlehoovy5555 4 роки тому +2

    Ah it’s great to know he’ll be more enjoyable in world when I finally buy Iceborne. I never played gen, but I still have PTSD from Silver los’s homing claws of doom in 3U and 4U. I literally had to make rarity 10 honed attack weapons before i managed to solo sinister astronomy.
    Great video as always!

    • @ryaquaza3offical
      @ryaquaza3offical 4 роки тому +2

      You should seriously play MHGenU it’s honestly great

    • @RPGeenius
      @RPGeenius 4 роки тому

      @@ryaquaza3offical I have generations but need mhgu. If only I could get a switch😑. I hate bird bot.

  • @erictv9744
    @erictv9744 4 роки тому

    I think that it's cool how in the events both of them will stay in nergigante sleeping spot is cool

  • @donteatglass3472
    @donteatglass3472 4 роки тому +6

    would love to see a yian garuga comparison, such a dreaded monster in the old games became so much more enjoyable in world/iceborne

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 4 роки тому +3

      Definitive Garuga, but also Kushala.
      Could write an Essay about him beeing so much worst in World.

    • @lordofdarkness4204
      @lordofdarkness4204 4 роки тому

      Sunaki1000 I’d argue Kushala is shit in both world and the old games. I hated his fight in both.

  • @GoatFelon
    @GoatFelon 4 роки тому

    Bruh, your music choice is legendary

  • @TheTorridestCheese
    @TheTorridestCheese 4 роки тому

    Those two are a blast with IG. When they're in the air I just spam aerial attacks until they come down again.

  • @guillermogonzalez3696
    @guillermogonzalez3696 4 роки тому

    I strongly agree with this video. I have fought these two since Freedom Unite, and whenever I needed their materials it felt just tedious to go for it, and even tho in New World silver feels a little bit off for me, golden is so cool to hunt, but it is easy to tell that it is just how I like things, because it's obvious these two have been soooo improved since accepting a quest that involves them doesn't actually feel boring nor clunky. On the other hand, I think many people would enjoy hearing you talk about Garuga, which has also evolved in such a positive way. Great video man 👌🏻

  • @TheBrownestFalcon
    @TheBrownestFalcon 4 роки тому +12

    GARUGA WHEN HENRY

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 4 роки тому

      Yeah show love to the psycho Chicken.
      He bitchslaped Deviljho!

    • @salwaahmadz6215
      @salwaahmadz6215 4 роки тому

      @@Sunaki1000 and I really love that scene, kinda satisfying

    • @Sunaki1000
      @Sunaki1000 4 роки тому

      @@salwaahmadz6215 Exquisite 4U level Monsterintroduction. My favorite as well.

  • @tuhalu4123
    @tuhalu4123 4 роки тому

    Thanks for the comparison. I'm one of those guys that primarily uses sticky/status LBG against these guys, but your video makes it pretty clear that there is some real satisfying melee gameplay to be had now too. Maybe I'll try it again at some point to see if I can get better at it.
    In my opinion, the ability to deal with flying monsters and to deal with bad hitzones make the clutch claw a benefit in nearly every fight and for nearly every weapon (with a few exceptions). And then you get flinch shot knockdowns and clutch claw/slinger combo moves, both of which create new playstyles and more variety for basically every weapon. I really don't understand how you can hate on it (outside of wonky movement on spinning monsters while trying to get to the head), but I understand that some do.

  • @PlayMakerMH-
    @PlayMakerMH- 4 роки тому

    I totally agree with your opinion,i really like they're IB iterations ,they often reward you for proper positioning ,i prefer these fights instead of some braindead mechanics like breaking spikes to trip lock the monster.

  • @NibbleSnarph
    @NibbleSnarph 4 роки тому

    The Coronas virus facemask in the world story rath cutscene perfect

  • @Dranlia
    @Dranlia 4 роки тому

    I was okay with the rath family before world but tended to prefer Rathian because she spent more time on the ground. World however really made me like them a lot more. Even before Iceborne and the clutch claw, them flying closer to the ground and having the slinger made it possible to keep the momentum of the fight while they were in the air. Now I find Rathalos more fun.

  • @Joe-yx1gq
    @Joe-yx1gq 4 роки тому

    well can't wait for compare Alatreon Form Old games to New world Iceborne boy can't wait for that!

  • @Kinra_Jade
    @Kinra_Jade 4 роки тому +1

    4U player here, i don't bother with the head while fighting them. I just go for the wings once they trip.
    Wind pressured tail poisoned slaps and 2 hits stuns are enough to make you crazy.

    • @pablosoria4071
      @pablosoria4071 4 роки тому

      What I used to do was taking advantage of the glaive and mount a whole fucking lot and when they fell I bombed their head until it broke.

  • @azyaschik
    @azyaschik 4 роки тому +1

    Since "improved flying" is a big thing in this video, what's your opinion on Kushala? Because I personally really dislike going up against it in World, unlike older games.

  • @PREQuEL407
    @PREQuEL407 4 роки тому

    I remember back in 05 PS1 head locking them with a lance and keeping them on the ground sometimes the entire fight.

    • @PREQuEL407
      @PREQuEL407 4 роки тому

      Stab stab slide stab stab slide. Do it with me

  • @annoy4nce648
    @annoy4nce648 4 роки тому

    I've not played the other games, but I really like both of them in mhw, so I'm happy that they got changed

  • @Panda4Hir3
    @Panda4Hir3 4 роки тому

    I'm wondering if the next one of these comparison videos is going to be on the Raging Brachydios? hmm?

  • @001shadowknight
    @001shadowknight 4 роки тому +1

    I never really minded them being the air flash bombs are a thing for the silver/gold also their tails were normally in range

  • @mytyavarivoda7710
    @mytyavarivoda7710 4 роки тому

    That music intro is fire man

  • @timwright9541
    @timwright9541 4 роки тому

    Great video, thanks! You are my favourite MH guy!

  • @98Etienne98
    @98Etienne98 4 роки тому

    I still remember in freedom unite the best tactic i found (for me) was to charge the great sword and keep hitting the wings
    tons of damage and plenty of flinches and stuff (cuz you often hit the legs)

  • @chookee1080
    @chookee1080 2 роки тому

    I’m just glad that they fly closer to the ground

  • @DTPandemonium
    @DTPandemonium 4 роки тому

    Blast hammer felt pretty effective against old raths but you still gotta make sure it doesnt accidentally proc on other parts.

  • @Foerarn1234
    @Foerarn1234 4 роки тому

    Damn, as a SNS main i still struggle with the range for these flying bastards... with that said, seeing that Shoriyuken dunk in MHGU was extremely satisfying.

  • @cramorantisgod4533
    @cramorantisgod4533 3 роки тому +1

    Imagine needing to get them out the air. *laughs in insect glaive*

  • @boshwa20
    @boshwa20 4 роки тому +5

    Can you PLEASE compare status effects like Stun?
    I need to know if they actually increased the time limit for it and/or do nothing even if you mash the control stick

    • @ibs_haver
      @ibs_haver 4 роки тому +5

      Mashing the stick DOES actually help in Iceborne, it's just not as significant as it was in old titles. In past games you would be stunned for like 40 seconds if you did nothing, but now it's only a little bit longer if you don't mash.

    • @victorsandeen2694
      @victorsandeen2694 4 роки тому

      Stun is annoying as hell.

    • @jotarokujo3603
      @jotarokujo3603 4 роки тому

      This seems like the kind of thing that would be on a wiki.

    • @huntert7650
      @huntert7650 4 роки тому +1

      Stun in 3u is a joke, mash the stick and you're barely out for a second

    • @RPGeenius
      @RPGeenius 4 роки тому

      @@huntert7650 so true. Stun resist is barely worth using in older mh games. In mhw it can be deadly not to use it.

  • @lilith5256
    @lilith5256 4 роки тому

    herny i deadass love u rn.. amazing video xx

  • @dero4378
    @dero4378 4 роки тому

    what you say is true and i very much agree. however, with me, this is a problem actually... i liked them BECAUSE they were very hard to conquer. and now it almost seems too easy, making them both so much less intimidating! (also one reason i liked them so much) so... it's a win lose in my opinion. still glad they exist in world anyway. ^^ i mean, the clutch claw is just an option and you can still fight em old style!