BMW E36 No Crank No Start SOLUTION: EWS Module Bypass (Works 100% for 323/328/M3)
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Hope this helped :) I could hardly find any documentation on how to bypass this system, so I wanted to spread this information to help anyone else that may have a similar issue as I did.
It really is that easy though. Definitely try this bypass out before you decide to pull the trigger on a starter.
Lifesaver. I've been having this problem for such a long time and I never would've guessed it was such an easy fix.
I have a 2001 bmw 330ci e46
My car did not crank , I bypass the two fat wires like you said, but I connected the connector to the ews, and connected the bypass outside of connector, the car started right up ,..... thank you so much buddy !! Great
That's great news! I'm glad to hear that you were able to apply a similar method and that it works for e46's as well!
@@Brunboi hi sir how are u
Nice to meet you
@@Brunboi sir I have a same problem.now we are not know how to do now I need ur help sir
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100% saved my ass dude. Eliminating wires from my 328 vert. Eliminating wires from back to front and car wouldn't start after snipping a bunch of shit... this literally saved me so much time. Video came in clutch and worked 100%
You just saved my ass. Thank you. I actually had to push start to get home to troubleshoot. Now I'm good to go
Awesome!! I'm really happy to hear that i could help!
@@Brunboi I have a BMW 1995 525i it has the ews2 it but it has two black and yellow and one green so how do I do it ? I put the blacks together and it cranks but no spark going to the coils
@@JoseCastillo-wv7oj hast du das Problem lösen können?
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Thankyou so much. Cant believe how simple it was. Just bought new starter and was about to take car apart to fit it. Massive job.
You're the man. Thinned my wires and it removed 3 small wires from the ews and it no longer works. Need to see what type of signal or power those are looking for, but car starts.
Thx g, got a 318i for free today couldn’t get it to crank but dash lit up did that bypass and not it’s cranking thx g
I appreciate you taking the time and posting this it worked on my 1999 323i bmw but this was after I replaced the starter as well lol
Absolutely amazing video man! Got my e36 cranking...now time to get it running
You're a life saver! Utter genius 🙂
You deserve a medal 🙏🏼
Give this man some views
Your the man💯 you just helped me install my burble chip🔥
Hey man would it make sense if my plug is red rather then yellow like yours or could I be looking at the wrong one
Holy shit I cannot believe that actually worked!! You’re amazing sir!
wow.it worked one shot for me.great job
do i need to plug it for long term use
edit didn’t bypass it on 1997 328i just cranks the starter
Vielen tausend Dank für deine Hilfe 🙂👍 mein m42b18 von 1995 läuft wieder.
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Does it work also for bmw e39 from 1997? Manual gearbox. I dont have a key with buttons.
It is not the fix, it only crancks and cranks and the battery is dead
You fucking genius ahahahaha you made my day :) its working
Did it on my 98, and I got it to crank! It still won’t turn over. Is there another situation blocking it?
Hey, thank you very much for the video! My e36 had an ews issue and this solved it, but now my windows don’t work. The windows (and sunroof) don’t have any power at all. Do you know how to fix this?
just happened on my 98 318ti, would this fix it! so, couldn't we just snip the two wires and wire them together? since that's pretty much what you are doing with the bridge.
Did it work
Hey. My car cranks but doesn't start. I have no spark .. But i do get fuel.. Even changed coil packs, spark plugs, all fuses and relays... any idea what it could be? Its a E36 323i 98' model
Or is there any way I can contact you
Did you figure out the problem?
@danieljaimes8403 did anybody figur that one out
Did you figure it out ??
@@oneralkinsengun2489did you ???
@@danieljaimes8403did you ?
Had an e61 v 8. Think diag fixed it after i re enabled key one ! Although it said keys were ok i still enabled it again on key one then it started !!!
Hi Mate,
Thank you for sharing this great video , just wondering why you needed to route in power cables just to bridge 2 pins with electrical wire . I think I missed something there
same , it would be simpler just to bridge two wires ..
@@P.F.C_Gile saves cutting wires
i did the same thing it used to not work at all now it cranks but does not start... what should i do any ideas?
Same help please
@@tinusdevreeze6573 you figure it out
star or just crank mate?
My car turns over the issue is my injectors are not spraying fuel, but I am
Getting fuel to the rail I check the pump it’s good. Any idea?
I tried the trick and the car did crank a lot but could not start.. someone stoled the key so i swaped the ignition key so i doesn't have the right chip. Today i should be deleting ews. But my question was if you put the wire in.. does it bypass everything or just the starter? Since my fuel pump did not had voltage while cranking but was priming before
I’m having the same issue any luck?
@@afterhoursgarage6586 yes, this is just a test i guess or it may work on ews1 but most are ew2 and its required to remove ews from ecu theres no way around
@@afterhoursgarage6586 yes, this is just a test i guess or it may work on ews1 but most are ew2 and its required to remove ews from ecu theres no way around
what does that yellow connector go to ? YOUR CAS MODULE? what is EWS same as CAS? Thanks 4 video
Does this work for an E36 Z3? Also, do you disconnect the battery before adding the jumper wire? And, do you just let the yellow plug hang loose from then on?
It seems like the Z3's share the same EWS2 system as a regular E36 up until 1999, where it was then updated to EWS3D. Regardless, as far as I'm aware, they're both very similar systems, so I'd believe that it would work. It's at least worth a shot.
Also, no need to disconnect the battery. The module only receives power if your key is in the ignition, so just make sure it's not in there when you're putting the jumper wire in.
And finally, yep! You can just hang it loose. I wrapped mine up with some electrical tape to keep the wire from wiggling out while driving.
If after doing this, the car cranks over but does not start, you'll have to look into deleting the EWS control bit from your DME. It's a very simple process but you'd have to buy an obd cable with an FTDI chip as well as a flashing software like MS41.
Yea Z3s are the same, basically a smaller version of the E36 3 Series except I think the rear end is shared with the E30
The alarm just keeps beeping. When the key is in the ingnition in any position no dash lights nothing comes on. I went and got the ews tested with the kry and it says it matches.
I did a swap, the car turns, but it doesn't start, I found out that it's because the spark doesn't reach the spark plugs correctly, can I try that, without it ruining anything? I saw some comments saying that the windows stopped working and other things like that
Do it start???
@@facundoiglesias9066 yes, its safe do that, but you can't use ews anymore
How do you get the plug off? ive tried to slide that bracket but it wont budge.
prying against the back of the yellow clip that slides worked for me. it takes quite a bit of force.
hopefully you've already got it figured out, if not I hope this helps.
1998 318ti with EWS2 here, the bridge didn't work.
cut and connected the wires didn't work.
plugged in the ews again with the wires cut and connected, and it works, but the windows don't work.
Hi, I have a 1994 318i with an m52tu engine swap. I have no ews module in the car so how would I go about fixing this. No crank no start ews delete dme
Hi man, this is awesome, I don't even understand how do you know all these. haha, anyway. My 2001 e46 325 ci does not start, (no crank, no start) It did it a few times in the last two months, I thought it was the key fob, since I did the test ( in the 50'skid video) and the key didn't beep when I opened the door in position one. So I fxed the key with a new battery, cleaning, etc...and it worked for 1 month. Now it is not working again. A guy that makes key came today and told me that the key is good but there is a code 000080 that says that the ews and transmission are not paring, that we need to sync both, download the new codes, make a new key....bla bla, all expensive stuff. I am so lost and concerned, that I don't know what to do. Where would you start? Thanks man.
Did u ever figure it out?
@@nickdiaz1051 Hi, thanks for the follow up. Yes, long story short, it was the key (transponder). Finally I figured it out, and got a new key for 240 $ (in Miami) I had to avoid a couple of scammers first, that wanted to reprogram the computer, bla bla bla...but the car is running and no pb since then. Thanks again.
Is there a similar fix for a faulty CAS module in later BMW or Mini?
What about the rest of the connections I mean you just leave it unplug? I freaking went crazy thinking its my starter I ended up getting 2 starter and returned them one was actually bad. So I have a 2001 BMW Z3 is that going to be in the glove box also? Thanks
Just leave it unplugged. And it should be the same for the Z3, but I don't actually know that 100%
@@Brunboi Thank you I am going to try it I hope this car don't catch on fire lol Thanks again
@@capicapuchino5675what was the results?
I have a 2005 bmw e90 would this work for me having no crank no start replaced starter and main relay but no change
Would this work for an e53 ?
okay but my car (94 e36) will bump start but will not start with the key, could this be the problem?
It worked kind of , my startmotor cranks now but no spark , any ideas?
Same with mine..
@@benwhite8844 you figure it out?
Hi.dear
I have seems like this echoes
Also im try more but still didn't work yet
My car doesn't have any spark to the plugs I wonder if this is the same thing
My e36 is priming. I turn the key and nothing happens. Dash lights remain on and no crank no click nothing. Does this sound like it could be ews?
So you don’t plug it back in? Just leave it with the wire like that to bypass?
That's correct!
Kontak açık konumdami olması gerekiyor.
Tried this but didn't work, still takes ages cranking or cuts the power the starter. Should I still replace & code the entire module?? Any thoughts would be appreciated
FYI I am throwing the EWS error code
If your car is obd2 e36 it has ews 2 which requires a chip tune i believe
Does this module check the securtiy chip in the e36 key or tumblr
Legend worked for me 😁
Hi, same for bmw 530d e39 2001 ?
Thanks 😉
on my e60 the plug is tottaly diffrent how do i by pass the ews the plug is black thank please help
Legendary
Good looks my car got head unit stolen and wouldn’t start after gonna try this today
What year is your car? Because I tried this on my 1997 328is and it can crank now but it will not start
Hey, so my car is a 1996 328is. One thing I found out about after uploading this video is that in certain situations like yours, you may have to modify a control bit in the car's DME to basically trick it into thinking that the EWS module is getting power, even though it actually isn't.
I've been seeing more and more people running into this issue, and messing with the DME can definitely be pretty intimidating, so I'll actually be making another video on this topic this week as kind of a walkthrough for this process!
@@Brunboi hello what is the link to the video please
@@Brunboi did you make the video?
@@Brunboi 1998 UK 328i, the bridge allowed it to crank but not run so would love the follow up video!
Has anyone done this on an EWS1? Can you please confirm if it worked? I have a 94 BMW 318i
update?
So i tried this and now it cranks but doesn’t want to turn over... I’m lost
Same help
I did this by cutting and bridging the wires on a 1998 M3, the EWS plug was purple in color, but I haven't unplugged the actual plug, how the hell does it unplug ? I don't see any push in clips. Right now the car still needs the key in the cylinder to start, but sometimes it doesn't need it. Any people have this problem?
How to unplug the EWS module . refer to this video: ua-cam.com/video/UEr3Qai4SRY/v-deo.html
Do you also have the ews removed from the ECU?
Also on dash board it was coming ⚡
But out computer not come electric
Do I need to remove this wire after doing this?
Did it but now it cranks but doesn't start. 96 e36 328i sedan.
Did you figure it out ??
@@joshuacruz4046 had chipped the ecu and delete the dme
What wires do you use in bypassing the ews
Dear
How are you
Please help
I want to transfer From EWS ll to EWS 3
Wire diagram
E39 BMW 523 model 1996
Vehicle BT29571
Thank you
can i run my car with a standalone ecu with this solution???
How to remove the yellow box, I cannot find a way to wiggle it out.
325 is just a smaller enginez not an older car. Maybe you mean facelift or prefacelift
So will this method work with all E36 Ews2 systems? Because I have a 1995 BMW 325i convertible and the ews antenna ignition ring fell off the starter due to me trying to fix & reconnect one of the wires back onto the antenna & now the computer doesn’t even start when I put the key into it, it was running a few days ago after sitting for over 3 months, but now it won’t even turn over so is that the EWS 2 system that’s causing it cuz I have a new battery on the vehicle. Never had a problem starting it til recently. So I just wanna know will this method work
I would imagine that given your scenario, it's pretty likely that it would work. EWS usually just dies out of nowhere like that. At the very least, I'd argue its worth a shot
Do you still have to have the matched key or does this completely bypass that as well because I have no keys ?
I'm wondering the same thing. Did you try it?
@@tylermarshall4243 In Theorie you could start the car without any key. In my case the complete key mechanism at the Steering wheel was broken and I ripped it all out. I startet the car by turning this orange key lock thing (I don't know how it is called) with the screwdriver but have to insert a key in this ring receiver thing.
Now with this trick my car starts just by turning the screwdriver in this orange key lock thing and without any original key at all.
@@4bl0xx30 thanks so much for the reply! The affirmation I needed to dive in.
@@tylermarshall4243 Youre Welcome. I hate it when nobody answers to questions. Especially people who try something like this fix from that video. Thats why when I see stuff like this and have even tried it I try to write down my experiences.
Greetings from Germany.
@@4bl0xx30thankyou man you have saved me so much time going insane lol, I've got a euro 328i so you being in Germany has cemented this...
any idea what it could be if my engine cranks and DOES start with starter fluid I do have a key and all the fuel components have been replaced and still doesnt start on my 1996 328i
I would maybe recommend checking the crankshaft position sensor, as that can cause a similar crank but no-start condition even if you have both fuel and spark.
Brunboi problem is I DID replace that and the cam sensor too
Shoot, yeah I really am not sure what your root cause would be then. I don't have enough experience working with fuel systems to be able to provide much more diagnosis then that. Sorry about that.
I'd be curious to hear back and see what you found the issue to be though (if you've been able to find it yet)! It could help others or even me if I ever run into the same issue you have
You ever find out the issue? I’m going through the same issue as you. Cranks but no start even with start fluid. Already changed cam/crank sensor. Really stumped
Thatbmwguy 12 sorry I just saw this and for my car it is a 96’ so you need the key with the transponder chip and all the DME components ( dme , ews module, and key ring antenna) to be in working condition so I took all of it out from my other 96 328is and swapped it over and still nothing so sorry to say I’m stumped as well !
solved half the problem..now the ignition is firing but the engine is not starting . keeps tvin tvin tvin all the time with gaz smell coming out .. any more help?
Same
Did you figure yours out?
Someone prior to me owning the car had cut those two big wires, any ideas on what to do next?
put them together with a wire nut. it’d be the same thing as in the video essentially
Does a 98 318i have this also?
Dont work at a bmw e36 318is of 1998 with EWS 2. i bridge pin number 3 and 1 / green-black and black yellow??
Did you figure this out. I have the same model 318is
hmm can i use to 320i bro?
Will this work on ews3?
Didnt work with my e36 wires started burning
Hi mate, have a e36 1994, can’t seem to find that connector. Is it yellow, I see black and white connectors but not yellow?
Yeah so the yellow plug is for the EWS2 module, which was introduced in 1996. OBD1 E36's will have EWS1, which is likely what you're looking at. Something worth checking for you if you haven't already is the starter relay, as that going bad generally has the same symptoms as an EWS2 module going bad
Did you figure out what it was? I’m having this issue on my 94 325 and it’s driving me insane
@@Clocktowerdreamhousee a 94 will start if you connect the 2 thick wires behind the glove box with no key
Not work in e39 m52 single vanos 1999
Goooooooooooooooooodddddddd!!!!!!
my 97 bmw m3 has that issue where its powered on but wont start u just hear an click noise. I'll normally just wait and try every few minutes till it finally decides it wants to start. y'all think bypassing the ews will solve it bc it happens very frequently.
you figure that out - sounds like my issue and im here surfing for a soloution
Maybe work in a bmw x5 ?
what about 850ci 1995 has 2 DME
its work?
PLEASE SOMEONE HELP ME GUYS! I got a m52b20 without ECU so i went to Automobile junkyard and got this ecu from a sedan e36 MS41.0 5WK9 022 1 427 703 i try to start the engine but i didnt have spark the engine was turning without spark! so i whent back to junkyard and buy the ewsll from the same car that i got the ecu , but! i find out that my ecu was from another car so the ews was different ( ewsll WBACB61000AP29194-2D47J) . so anyone can tell me what do to ? do i buy another ecu cause this one has emmo do i open it somehow or do a make a remap with this ews to the ecu i got and make also an new key? thanks a lot .
What about 01 530
is that safe?
Jumping those two heavy wires on our E36 M3 will allow the engine to spin over, but will not let it start up.
what was the solution?
mine ran everyday as a daily then a RAT stole my keys cuts it had a fluffy fabric on it. Got a new key from BMW vin matched and it cranks but will not start.. can anyone help me... i was told replace the news
Hello, i've done it and my car crank but don't start. It has been few months and i'm still searching for a solution ( ps: it's a 325tds from 1998 and it will be my first car if she start again) Excuse my english this is not my mother language
Same please help
this work for e46s too?
I'm not 100% sure on all e46's, but it appears to work on some! Worth a shot at least
hi,did you solve your problem?
SOLUTION.. no crank no start, then crank but no start. No spark, and no fuel . How I troubleshoot issues on my E36 98 M3.
I tried EWS bypass, got crank but still no start. Then I replaced the crank position sensor, still no crank no start w/no EWS bypass. It is because my camshaft sensor is bad . So now you know that a bad camshaft sensor causes no crank no start . When I replaced cam sensor I got crank, but no start. At this point, I also got a cell code for crank position sensor. Even though my crank sensor is new from FCP Euro . It is because I did not install the crank sensor correctly.
I can hear the fuel pump prime when I turn key to the on position so I know fuel pump works. Next, I check to see if I get Spark by spraying flammable carb cleaner into intake manifold, still no change I got no spark. Below is why.
1. No spark & no fuel- bcuz ECU cannot detect crank sensor, so ECU does know when to spark or spray fuel. When installing the new crank sensor, if you have a new o-ring, it is very likely that the O-ring is not pressed all the way into the hole, it would not press in the hole when it’s on the crank position sensor . The trick is to install the o-ring into the hole first, then grease the crank sensor and slowly pressed the crank sensor into the hole. When o-ring is not all the way in, the crank sensor is sitting too far back so it cannot detect the crank when you rotate . Make sure to remove old o-ring first. You may also test to see if you got power at the crank sensor plug. FYI..I got a read from the yellow wire, which is the signal wire from the ECM. I got no reading from the red wire/ power with key on on position. IDK why, so don’t expect a read from the red wire.
2. When installing a new cam shaft position sensor, be sure to remove the old o/ring. Mine was stuck in the hole and I didn’t know so when I install my new sensor and o-ring I got two O-rings on, so I got a cell code because the sensor is too far back and is not able to read correctly.
3. Before all this, I had also ordered a Kassel performance ECM with EWS delete. Still no crank no start so I know it is not EWS issue.
Hope this information helps someone . I’m just so happy that my be loved M3. Is alive again.😂😅
Is this safe? I just taped everything off incase
But it did work! I did this due to the install of a turner Motorsport chip. The car would crank but not turn on and now it does
I’ve never had this problem my 328is has always started right up no problem even at 0 degree weather but now at 34 degrees the other day it killed when I turned the key, all lights came on but it’s like turning the key hit a kill switch then my battery was dead, can ews go out over night or do I have a parasitic draw
Help! i have a 98 M3 s52. I tried this bypass and it cranks, but no start. Then i try plug back onto EWS and then bypass the two big wires so it cranks, but still no start. i checked all fuses in engine bay and they are good. I also have the ECU tuned from Kassel performance with EWS delete but i still get no crank if i don't bypass the EWS. thanks, in advance
Did you fix it?
@@stormkaandorp6194yes I did get it started after doing a lot of troubleshooting. My workaround is I must plug the EWS back into place then I joined the two big wires together as in the video, but from behind the plug. For some reason it won’t start if the EWS is not plugged in…even with the two big wires are joint.
@@cya3651if I do the same it will put on the starter, but i have no spark
@@stormkaandorp6194 Sounds like your car had the same problem as mine .
The problem with my car is the EWS is bad and the camshaft sensor is also bad. So when I bypass the EWS, the car cranks, but will not start, it acts like there is no spark or no fuel. This is because the camshaft sensor was bad. The way I test to see if my car got spark or fuel is to spray some starter fluid into the intake and start the car. If the car starts, that means you get no fuel. If the car does not start, that means you got no spark. I replace the camshaft sensor and my car started right up. Make sure when you remove the old camshaft sensor You also remove the rubber O-ring. When you reinstall the camshaft sensor, replace the O-ring also and make sure it is installed all the way in. Otherwise the sensor will not be able to read the camshaft correctly. If you’re not sure, just refer to UA-cam videos on how to install it. Good luck.
Mine is an obd2. All mine does is crank fast sometimes. Changed fuel pump, added a relay directly from fuel pump to battery, checked relay and fuses. Only way for the fuel pump to get power is to ground fuse #18. If i do that, no fuse or relay is needed. Car does not start, only cranks. Ecu doesn't smell burnt. Changed crank and camshaft sensors. My ews wires seem good. I am lost and have no idea what to do. Can't plug in obd2 scanner because it gives me an error. Any idea?
Built m52 motor, turbo, walbro 450, rpd22 tune, and much more. Got it non running, said it was just the fuel pump. Changed it to the walbro and it wasn't
Hmmm okay so to me it sounds like maybe you're dealing with a situation where your ecu thinks that ews exists, but because it isn't validating the signal, it won't let you crank. One solution for that that I've seen is changing a control bit on your ecu using your own tuning software such as romraider. The problem is that i'm not sure if you'd technically be able to do that without messing with your current tune
If you look up something along the lines of "ews delete romraider" you might be able to find some info that could help.
Car sounds like it'll be a complete riot once you're able to get it started though haha. For sure planning on turbo'ing mine in the near future
@@Brunboi That's the thing. If the ecu is tuned, they have to have deleted the ews right code right? And me and my buddy actually downloaded romraider a while back because we wanted to do our own tune, just never really went through with buying the software since it didn't start.
@@Brunboi Also, pretty sure you're supposed to connect the laptop to the obd2 chord in order to use Romraider correct? If that's the case, my obd2 port isn't reading
I have a 1997 318I with EWS problems. It looks very different behind the glove box.
Did you solve your issue on the 97 318i ??
@@kevincurry9417 Don't know yet. The shop says it's the ring that goes around the ignition lock. It's been on order for three weeks.
@@mikeblast7507 thanks for the fast reply. What are your symptoms
@@kevincurry9417 I turn the ignition key, the lights and accessories come on, but the starter won't engage. (replaced the starter also, but had no impact).
@@mikeblast7507 are you able to push start it?
I have a BMW X3 2005, I can't make it start even though I spent money already taking the immobilizer to be programmed again with another key. Do you think this would be the solution? It's EWS3
I would definitely take a look online to see if people have been able to successfully jump the EWS3 module like I do in the video. If it's possible with EWS3 as well, then I'd definitely recommend trying it and seeing what happens
Have a 2004 x3, same issue. How did you resolve?