There's no way in hell Jimmy Brooks is alive after calling out Arthur in Valentine. The gang just lost 2 members and have to hide in the mountains almost dying because of Blackwater, there's no way Arthur would let loose ends line this ...
a massive issue with arthur fans is thinking hes a amazing man arthur is the best fictional character ever but he isnt a good man in the start hes a cold heartless killer but after getting tb he gets a heart and seeks for *redemption*
True, and Arthur is aggressive and seems to have a temper, so he, to me, would be a violent drunk. Which is proven when he tries to fight that guy near Lenny
fun fact: the drunk guy in lenny's quiet time mission if you wait and let him talk a lil longer you can unlock an option to slam his head into the table. no way he is charming him hes 100% gonna beat the idiot
@germania2276I agree. I think there’s a reason why the charm option appears first. Arthur’s not inebriated (yet), so he can reason that he doesn’t want to get Lenny in trouble. My guess is that waiting causes Arthur to lose his temper with the guy, and the fight becomes available.
I agree with all the choices you chose, there are many people who say Arthur is a bad person and after tb he becomes good, others who say that he is a hero and a great man, but he obviously is a good man deep inside, he just acts like he thinks he has to act (or like he is been taught to act) to survive in that world, and he doesn't like to show his feelings with anyone till his last days, you can read his journal and see Arthur open himself. And no, getting diagnosed with TB didn't make Arthur a good person, it just made him realize that the way he was acting all this time (avoiding to think too much as he says) would make people he loved die. At least thats how i understand the character.
People really don't know what a outlaw is. They miss so much good dialogs with low honor. It's redemption. He supposed to change at the end. His name is Arthur Morgan. Not Peter Parker through the whole game. Smh
People really don't know what staying quiet and letting people play the game how they like is. Nobody asked to have this dialogue with you. It's choices. You're supposed to make the choices that lead to the end. His name is Arthur Morgan. Not Gary Lewis who gets to tell other people how to play the game they bought. Smh
Being an outlaw doesn't automatically make you a shitty human being. Yeah, it's about redemption but even a good Arthur has done some shitty things, especially over the course of the story. Hell, Arthur makes it a point to state how Dutch/the gang encouraged them to help folks back in the day. How they'd give out money they stole, robin hood style. Half the gang is filled with people who were down on their luck before they joined the gang. They're bad men, but they aren't all bad men.
@@silashurd3597the video is fucking called what choices the outlaw Arthur Morgan with bounty on his head would make. Not what choices would a player who wants to play as good Arthur would make.
Please remember that Arthur didn’t even think about trying to be a better person until after his diagnosis with the odd exception here and there it’s most likely he would do dishonorable things most of the time before then
At the same time it wouldve been more suspicious if Arthur killed a man he chased out of the town especially that the whole town witnessed him chasing him
5:22 You can’t drown Jeb, I tried you just can’t do it. So dunk the hell out of him, it won’t affect the mission at all. Only thing it will change is that Jeb doesn’t hit you.
Nah, Arthur in chapters 2-4 is not a good man. He would not be as good a man as you made him seem like. Chapter 6 he would definitely be better, but he would not be saving people like Jimmy Brooks and having meaningful talks with the Chelonians in chapter 2
Jimmy brooks had the nerve to publicly call out Arthur, but only once he starts getting chased he suddenly “doesn’t want trouble with Arthur” Every playthrough I do even max honor ones I always unalive that bum
@@writingjake6684 You’re correct. But also you don’t get penalized at for killing him besides losing a bit of honor, return the horse and do a few “greet”s and ur all good. So I kill away
@@erict4807Arthur felt bad for dropping a dude that was poisoning people into a river. I doubt he would've killed an innocent man. Atleast not in that way
He doesnt drown the guy to death for one. For another... Arthur is literally drowning him when we take over lol. Only one I see as blatantly incorrect.
You can actually beat up the drunk guy in a quiet time, if you wait long enough after the "threaten" option appears, which is what I always do cuz it's funny, lol.
Luv ya but ain’t no way Arthur will spare Jeb during the Drunk mission 😂😂😂Arthur got a temper to him and would beat his shit in for Annoying him. Like the time he was about to punch the shit out them Kidz (if you catch him ). Or the side mission with Mary and that one guy sweeping damm near pissed him off that’s just me tho
Arthur might have a temper but Arthur was sober and Dutch told him no funny business plus the bartender told him he didnt want any trouble in his bar. Arthur told the bartender he only fought tommy because he was defending himself so i dont think Arthur would cannonically attack a man in the middle of town that isnt a physical threat because he said a few mean words plus they were lying low
What i feel like a lot of people get wrong about pre-TB arthur is that hes some sort of sadistic serial murderer. He wasnt. Deep down hes a good person. But he would do anything to keep the gang safe. Arthur would have definitely killed jimmy brooks, but not because he wanted to, but because he had to
The only thing I disagree with is that Arthur would have killed Foreman. If you don't decide, the game will make the decision for you, and Arthur's decision is killing him.
I think arthur would definitely kill jimmy brooks and not risk him bringing pinkertons to the gang. Disagree with lost girl too arthur says in the damn game he always loves the drunk harlot. If you dont make the choice Arthur chooses to kill foreman himself so you're def wrong about that lol. I think its pretty clear John is going to get away fine so i think its more likely Arthur would want to go confront Micah and Dutch but could see it going either way. Rest i agree with
Hey man, I think your next video I request him do the same thing but in the epilogue with John because it’s not like I think three but still, if you were the one deciding like controlling, there’s like three major decisions you can make is John so I request, would you repeat cover what you think he would do in every situation now I’ll give you there’s only three, but there’s some videos for me
You only covered around half of the choices, some of them were relevant but others were random and not that important like the rob the house at night or day choice. If you were gonna include unimportant choices than you should have included all of them, not just a select few
I have played as somewhat semi-evil Arthur during one of my playthroughs but in chapter 6 ending, I did help Sadie take revenge against the O'Driscolls and helped John escape from Beaver Hallow. also, even as full evil Argue you are still forced scripted to help the Indians like Eagle Flies and Captain Monroe. and save Abigail from the Pinkertons in Van Horn. so my ending was having a good ending with a dear scene. which was very different to when I had the black wolf in Saint Denis when Arthur is diagnosed with TB and walks slowly on the streets and sees the wolf. so I have basically played the game as somewhat of real cannon Arthur. the only thing I didn't do much because I don't really like them is Leopold Strauss money laundering side quests. sure, you get more content but I don't really feel attached emotionally to them. and feel like unnecessary filler. too late into the story to even be worried and do money laundering when much more important campaign story missions are the main meat on the table and the whole gang being under the clock before the whole thing blows up. but I always like doing the stranger missions with the veteran, help the window in Roanoke Ridge and even help the Downes family at the end. I feel like this is what post TB diagnosed Arthur would do. a man full of regrets that is trying to do the best he has with the time he got left. and with regards to nun Calderon or Reverent Swanson. it's plain lick to me. it really depends on your honor level. if you lose honor even after you met nun Calderon and this her side missions in Saint Denis, low honor will have Reverent Swanson instead. I actually love them both. I like it how Arthur say stop Swanson he will fight like a man until the end. because he is a fighter and a warrior. that's so damn badass. and with nun Calderon, that's very sad. Arthur crying and feeling sorry for all the bad things she has done. incredible raw storytelling and character development. this is why RDR2 is a masterpiece. even if I still think the game has some flawsans convenient plot holes, it still is a masterpiece.
@@nonbasicz asking for credit = akin to crying like a toddler? are you brand new to the internet or something? you don't know that if you use someone else's work in your own project, you make sure they are recognized clearly for their efforts?
There's no way in hell Jimmy Brooks is alive after calling out Arthur in Valentine. The gang just lost 2 members and have to hide in the mountains almost dying because of Blackwater, there's no way Arthur would let loose ends line this ...
Jimmy is the devil himself(the strange man) Arthur has no control whether Jimmy lives or not
@@Logan_TheLegendnot true
@@Logan_TheLegendreally cuz I killed his ass and he seemed pretty dead
@@alvins223 which part the devil or strange man?cause the strange man part is proven in game but the devil is a rumor
But the strange man can’t die jimmy does if u kill him
a massive issue with arthur fans is thinking hes a amazing man
arthur is the best fictional character ever but he isnt a good man in the start hes a cold heartless killer but after getting tb he gets a heart and seeks for *redemption*
True, and Arthur is aggressive and seems to have a temper, so he, to me, would be a violent drunk. Which is proven when he tries to fight that guy near Lenny
Its clear hes not heartless. A killer, yes but its pretty clear that hes not a murderous maniac like some people play him.
@@channel45853 you mean the guys that had him up on the bar? You wouldnt stand up for your friend?
Men these days...
His past is what makes him a bad man.. the whole story line of Arthur is his final moments and him doing good to try to make up for his past
nah even in the beginning he is a grey character, he's definitely a bad guy but i wouldn't say he's heartless, even then.
fun fact: the drunk guy in lenny's quiet time mission if you wait and let him talk a lil longer you can unlock an option to slam his head into the table. no way he is charming him hes 100% gonna beat the idiot
@germania2276I agree. I think there’s a reason why the charm option appears first. Arthur’s not inebriated (yet), so he can reason that he doesn’t want to get Lenny in trouble. My guess is that waiting causes Arthur to lose his temper with the guy, and the fight becomes available.
I agree with all the choices you chose, there are many people who say Arthur is a bad person and after tb he becomes good, others who say that he is a hero and a great man, but he obviously is a good man deep inside, he just acts like he thinks he has to act (or like he is been taught to act) to survive in that world, and he doesn't like to show his feelings with anyone till his last days, you can read his journal and see Arthur open himself.
And no, getting diagnosed with TB didn't make Arthur a good person, it just made him realize that the way he was acting all this time (avoiding to think too much as he says) would make people he loved die.
At least thats how i understand the character.
People really don't know what a outlaw is. They miss so much good dialogs with low honor. It's redemption. He supposed to change at the end. His name is Arthur Morgan. Not Peter Parker through the whole game. Smh
Whatever. Why can’t we play Arthur in good mode the whole time?
People really don't know what staying quiet and letting people play the game how they like is. Nobody asked to have this dialogue with you. It's choices. You're supposed to make the choices that lead to the end. His name is Arthur Morgan. Not Gary Lewis who gets to tell other people how to play the game they bought. Smh
Let people play the game how they want to
Being an outlaw doesn't automatically make you a shitty human being. Yeah, it's about redemption but even a good Arthur has done some shitty things, especially over the course of the story.
Hell, Arthur makes it a point to state how Dutch/the gang encouraged them to help folks back in the day. How they'd give out money they stole, robin hood style. Half the gang is filled with people who were down on their luck before they joined the gang. They're bad men, but they aren't all bad men.
@@silashurd3597the video is fucking called what choices the outlaw Arthur Morgan with bounty on his head would make. Not what choices would a player who wants to play as good Arthur would make.
6:35 if you want gold you go at night. Less risky and faster. You will get seen leaving with the wagon during the day.
Please remember that Arthur didn’t even think about trying to be a better person until after his diagnosis with the odd exception here and there it’s most likely he would do dishonorable things most of the time before then
So you’re saying Arthur wouldn’t kill jimmy brooks after calling out him in a new town putting the gang in further danger
At the same time it wouldve been more suspicious if Arthur killed a man he chased out of the town especially that the whole town witnessed him chasing him
so everyone in valentine sees arthur chase a dude down and he ends up dead later that’s not more suspicious?
5:22 You can’t drown Jeb, I tried you just can’t do it. So dunk the hell out of him, it won’t affect the mission at all. Only thing it will change is that Jeb doesn’t hit you.
Nah, Arthur in chapters 2-4 is not a good man. He would not be as good a man as you made him seem like. Chapter 6 he would definitely be better, but he would not be saving people like Jimmy Brooks and having meaningful talks with the Chelonians in chapter 2
Jimmy brooks had the nerve to publicly call out Arthur, but only once he starts getting chased he suddenly “doesn’t want trouble with Arthur”
Every playthrough I do even max honor ones I always unalive that bum
Honestly though, why didn't he ride 30 paces up the road and mention it to the sheriff instead of going "HEY YOU" 😂
Realistically thinking Arthur would be smarter than killing a guy the whole town witnessed him chase
@@writingjake6684 You’re correct. But also you don’t get penalized at for killing him besides losing a bit of honor, return the horse and do a few “greet”s and ur all good. So I kill away
@@erict4807Arthur felt bad for dropping a dude that was poisoning people into a river. I doubt he would've killed an innocent man. Atleast not in that way
Bruh why are you trying so hard to avoid the word kill, just say it
Demonitization
@Kobirn28 yeah I know it's just annoying hearing the word unalive
1:12 he says it as soon as here.. Besides, certain words are not allowed within the first (alloted time)
He doesnt drown the guy to death for one. For another... Arthur is literally drowning him when we take over lol. Only one I see as blatantly incorrect.
bro continued the beating after finding the O'Driscoll again at the camp 😂
"Every choice Red dead tier list chose because he has not understood Arthur entirely despite making a lot of tier lists"
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You can actually beat up the drunk guy in a quiet time, if you wait long enough after the "threaten" option appears, which is what I always do cuz it's funny, lol.
Arthur would be a BEAST if he played running back 😂😂😂
Luv ya but ain’t no way Arthur will spare Jeb during the Drunk mission 😂😂😂Arthur got a temper to him and would beat his shit in for Annoying him. Like the time he was about to punch the shit out them Kidz (if you catch him ). Or the side mission with Mary and that one guy sweeping damm near pissed him off that’s just me tho
Arthur might have a temper but Arthur was sober and Dutch told him no funny business plus the bartender told him he didnt want any trouble in his bar. Arthur told the bartender he only fought tommy because he was defending himself so i dont think Arthur would cannonically attack a man in the middle of town that isnt a physical threat because he said a few mean words plus they were lying low
@@writingjake6684 true but in my opinion that’s what I think he’ll do Arthur give me them wolverine in the bar vibes sometimes 😂
Arthur is the goat
What i feel like a lot of people get wrong about pre-TB arthur is that hes some sort of sadistic serial murderer. He wasnt. Deep down hes a good person. But he would do anything to keep the gang safe. Arthur would have definitely killed jimmy brooks, but not because he wanted to, but because he had to
What a delight to watch your video; you are so thoughtful of all these decision points.
Jimmy Brooks family don't see him more anymore in my world......💀
The way you don't have a discord blows my mind *found your acc yesterday and binge watching every vid* 😭
All the choices up to Jimmy Brooks (including him) are the only ones I didn’t agree with.
I've been searching/ waiting for a video. It's a good piece too
you forgot when arthur can jose go help the guy who lost his horses on one of the same mission as jimmy brooks
The only thing I disagree with is that Arthur would have killed Foreman. If you don't decide, the game will make the decision for you, and Arthur's decision is killing him.
I think arthur would definitely kill jimmy brooks and not risk him bringing pinkertons to the gang. Disagree with lost girl too arthur says in the damn game he always loves the drunk harlot. If you dont make the choice Arthur chooses to kill foreman himself so you're def wrong about that lol. I think its pretty clear John is going to get away fine so i think its more likely Arthur would want to go confront Micah and Dutch but could see it going either way. Rest i agree with
i dont think he would’ve helped mary the 2nd time
Hey man, I think your next video I request him do the same thing but in the epilogue with John because it’s not like I think three but still, if you were the one deciding like controlling, there’s like three major decisions you can make is John so I request, would you repeat cover what you think he would do in every situation now I’ll give you there’s only three, but there’s some videos for me
"unalive"
Ikr, like bro literally puts the work kill in the subtitles but he doesn't say it
@@Slixcy he will be dimonitized is he says it
@@tasosvlaxos5290 that's just a myth
@@Slixcy maybe so
@@tasosvlaxos5290 bro he says "died"
You only covered around half of the choices, some of them were relevant but others were random and not that important like the rob the house at night or day choice. If you were gonna include unimportant choices than you should have included all of them, not just a select few
Can you do what John would do for the epilogue and rdr1
I have played as somewhat semi-evil Arthur during one of my playthroughs but in chapter 6 ending, I did help Sadie take revenge against the O'Driscolls and helped John escape from Beaver Hallow.
also, even as full evil Argue you are still forced scripted to help the Indians like Eagle Flies and Captain Monroe. and save Abigail from the Pinkertons in Van Horn.
so my ending was having a good ending with a dear scene.
which was very different to when I had the black wolf in Saint Denis when Arthur is diagnosed with TB and walks slowly on the streets and sees the wolf.
so I have basically played the game as somewhat of real cannon Arthur.
the only thing I didn't do much because I don't really like them is Leopold Strauss money laundering side quests. sure, you get more content but I don't really feel attached emotionally to them. and feel like unnecessary filler. too late into the story to even be worried and do money laundering when much more important campaign story missions are the main meat on the table and the whole gang being under the clock before the whole thing blows up.
but I always like doing the stranger missions with the veteran, help the window in Roanoke Ridge and even help the Downes family at the end.
I feel like this is what post TB diagnosed Arthur would do. a man full of regrets that is trying to do the best he has with the time he got left.
and with regards to nun Calderon or Reverent Swanson. it's plain lick to me. it really depends on your honor level. if you lose honor even after you met nun Calderon and this her side missions in Saint Denis, low honor will have Reverent Swanson instead.
I actually love them both. I like it how Arthur say stop Swanson he will fight like a man until the end. because he is a fighter and a warrior. that's so damn badass.
and with nun Calderon, that's very sad. Arthur crying and feeling sorry for all the bad things she has done.
incredible raw storytelling and character development.
this is why RDR2 is a masterpiece. even if I still think the game has some flawsans convenient plot holes, it still is a masterpiece.
Arthur is kinda skibidi sigma ohio rizzard of oz
I love Arthur's big gyat
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@@albertodotjpeg na he got an gyat fr fr 🍆🍆🍆
just fyi, harlot is pronounced “har-lot” not “har-low”.
No way jimmy brooks lives lol
If I redo the mission and spare Anthony foreman after I already kil*ed him will he be alive? Please help
What about Random event choices.
Really like this video.
I’m playing this on my channel and I glad I made alot of good decisions ❤🤜🏾🤛🏻
Not even a tag, let alone a link to the original footage 😮
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@@RedDeadTierListssure wasn’t there before I mentioned it.
@@nonbasicz asking for credit = akin to crying like a toddler? are you brand new to the internet or something? you don't know that if you use someone else's work in your own project, you make sure they are recognized clearly for their efforts?
Where did you go
Red dead tier lists humble yourself bro we don't know what's cannon
Bro you make terrible decisions for Arthur imo but that is just me
Credit to the clips?
None of the footage is ever mine. It's used in a transformative way.
@@RedDeadTierLists But at least give credit to the person that you used the clips?
In the description
@@RedDeadTierLists in the description it says the clips are not yours. It doesn't say who the clips belong to
@@nonbasicz HOW
The thumbnail having downes is crazy cuz that’s not a choice lmao
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