The thing about Liston is he grew up in such a poor environment to what we'd now expect, that he didn't even know his birthday. It's speculated he might have been well past 40 if not nearly 45 by the time he fought Ali, and he'd been crushing guys for years. He really had a terribly hard life and the more I learned about him the more I felt sorry for the guy and how people treated him.
Here Ali was throwing hard af. Also, these people probably thought he couldnt take a Liston punch but of course he had one of the best chins in boxing.
"Fight" that was a circus show, the announcers was irritating me by shouting to make it sound as if it was a world's greatest fight. 8 two rounds of joke, just milking MIke Tyson's name.
@@Skip-qr2ocFrazier and Foreman wouldn't land a single a punch and Holmes was very fast, determined and tough as nails but would still drown in the later rounds
You could see and hear the shot to the chin,Liston leaned in at exactly the wrong time. That's what messed up his equilibrium. I have watched that punch frame by frame, it was devastating.
Nobody really knows sonny listons age since he ran away from a plantation when he was a young boy and since he was on his own when he ran away nobody knew his real age. When he fought Ali he was said to be 34 but some people believed he was close to 50
The best evidence, including U.S Census data, indicate that Sonny was born in the summer of 1930. That would make him a little older than his "official" age, but nowhere near as old as rumor would have it.
@@danielrivera2365 so true. In this fight his hands were lightning. He was able to put together combinations that came from everywhere. And Ali was a big heavyweight. A lot of people missed that because he was so graceful. He manhandled most heavyweights in the clinches. He was an artful boxer who studied the great ones. And very, very few could take a punch like he did, which became his achilles heel. His courage. I remember a fight where Ernie Shavers hit him with a punch that still gives me the willies. All Ali did was clown about about it.
Ali's punch which knocked Liston down in the second fight was a peach, the idea that Liston dived is ridiculous. Ali's right hand was deceptively powerful - look at the right hand punch in 1974 which was more damaging to Foreman than the flurry which KOd him seconds later for example. Sonny stumbled into it, the 'anchor punch' was so fast I still find it impossible to decide whether Ali hit him on the chin or forehead despite the films from different angles. It's very interesting too to hear the punch land - wow.
They said Ali was good talker, but I thought Sonny Liston was also good but with few words. " He ( Clay/Ali) should be locked up for personating a boxer" " I only know a few word" Liston in my opinion, would have knocked out any boxer in any era in his prime, that how good he was? Liston should have started his professional fight 10 years earlier but due to criminal record he was robbed, the best10 years of fighting.
I listened to the first fight on the radio with my older brother. I was 10 and remember it so vicidly sitting there in the dark while history was made. They called Liston a big bear but when you see them in the ring Ali towered over him. He also had 10 pounds on him. It was not a close fight when Liston quit.
Ali would telegraph his punches with power, precision at superhuman speed had great movement and stylish footwork (Ali shuffle) for a big man couple that with intelligence = champion of the world 4ever
To have knocked out Liston and Foreman (probably two hardest hitters ever), in their primes, and both were champions, I believe Ali when he said, "I am the greatest."
Liston wasn't in his prime. That was between 1957-60. He was injured prior to their bout in 1963. His camp attempted to have the bout canceled, but the Miami Boxing Commission denied the request. The injury (a torn tendon in his shoulder) was progressively aggravated throughout the first six rounds.
I have seen a lot of fighters all the way back to Robinson in his later fights . Sonny Liston was the scariest.Tyson Foreman Shavers. Have you ever actually looked at Sonny Liston?
Growing up in Louisville during this time, Ali/Cassius, was such a pleasure and source of real pride for everyone who lived there. "The Louisville Lip"
I really think at this point “draft dodger” shouldn’t be spoken about this Man. Are we still advocating serving a country that made you a second class citizen while demanding you serve in its military?
I believe that this version of Ali could even have beaten Mike Tyson. But only this version. Tyson was insurmountable, but at the time of this Liston match Ali had peak intelligence and peak power, the intelligence giving him that miniscule edge over Tyson. Both legends and simultaneous GOATs
To whoever uploaded this video, please get your facts correct. He was not Muhammad Ali at that time as he had not yet converted. He was, and the history books will show he was Cassius Clay.
Sonny Liston was nothing more than a placeholder. He became champion by beating Floyd Patterson. Sonny Liston was nothing but hot air. Rocky Marciono had just retired. Liston had no credentials whatsoever. Stop it
Liston lost only 4 times in his entire career counting 2nd Ali fight (questionable loss-topic for another day ). Sonny defeated all comers including formidable Cleveland Williams twice (whom George Foreman called one of the three hardest punchers he ever saw/trained with). George, who also trained with Sonny, also said that Liston was the only fighter that he had ever been in the ring with who could back him up. Joe Louis at ringside called Sonny the greatest ever the night Liston dethroned Floyd Patterson for the heavyweight championship. Read what Sonny’s contemporaries said about him. He could knock fighters out with his 84-inch jab as an offensive tool. If Ali had not come along, Liston could have ruled the division for the duration of the 1960s. Liston could have beaten Frazier with similar results to Foreman/Frazier (if Frazier had been willing to fight him in the late 1960s---no slighting Smokin' Joe--nobody wanted to fight Liston). In his prime Liston would have cut through today's heavyweights like a knife through butter.
Liston was bum, never defended his belts, he is like andy ruiz, he win the belts and lost it in the same year, so come on guys don’t make him great fighter when he win against no one
Liston defended his title twice. He won a rematch against Patterson and lost the title to Clay. He lost the rematch to Ali a year later. Never fought for the title again.
If you knew diddly squat about history of boxing you would know it was common knowledge that liston was the uncrowned champ for 4 years but no one would give him a fight...comments like these are hilarious to people who know boxing..I don't mean to sound rude but to call him a bum is downright foolish bud.. the only person to really ever beat him is a young prime ali?!
The thing about Liston is he grew up in such a poor environment to what we'd now expect, that he didn't even know his birthday. It's speculated he might have been well past 40 if not nearly 45 by the time he fought Ali, and he'd been crushing guys for years. He really had a terribly hard life and the more I learned about him the more I felt sorry for the guy and how people treated him.
Here Ali was throwing hard af. Also, these people probably thought he couldnt take a Liston punch but of course he had one of the best chins in boxing.
don't you think it strange that liston overdosed after the second fight with ali???...and his back hurt making him stop the fight?...
This fight 60 years old, in it was way better then the Tyson fight last night 😆🥃🃏
Yeah, because Tyson himself is damn near 60 years old. 😂
@ 😁😆🤣
"Fight" that was a circus show, the announcers was irritating me by shouting to make it sound as if it was a world's greatest fight.
8 two rounds of joke, just milking MIke Tyson's name.
@ damn bro tell me how you really feel 😁😆🤣🍸
Actually a “fight” can be good regardless of the “time”
So that is irrelevant.
Definitely a good fight though 👌🏼
I think this version of Muhamme Ali would have beaten anybody, but Liston was fantastis in his two fights against Cleveland Williams.
@fisterklister ...You have to think abour?
@@brucescott4261Sonny estuvo fantástico toda su vida, excepto con Muhammad Ali y su sparring Leotis Martin
Sonny Liston, the most feared of his time. I never got a chance to meet him but I did connect with his Son. We both had a connection thru our Fathers.
We love Floyd Patterson in Sweden. Greetings to his son from the home country of Ingemar Johansson!
Ali:" I shook up the world". These words would resonate for a long time to come.
The 60s ali was definitely the greatest. Wish he'd faced frazier Holmes and foreman in that era
Yeah it's a shame we didn't get to see prime Ali
@@Skip-qr2ocFrazier and Foreman wouldn't land a single a punch and Holmes was very fast, determined and tough as nails but would still drown in the later rounds
@@itubecollection1623 Exactly 💯👍👍🚬
The United States government banned Ali from boxing in his prime, his early/mid 20's.....dirty muthafukahz
You could see and hear the shot to the chin,Liston leaned in at exactly the wrong time. That's what messed up his equilibrium. I have watched that punch frame by frame, it was devastating.
Chuvalo was there and said the punch couldn't squash a grape
@olivermeier2949 Look at it frame by frame sometime, it might change your mind.
The rematch was even more clinical,,the pull back right counter was one of the sweetest KO's.
Alia was afraid and even with fear he pushed yourself to the limit. What a man!
Nobody really knows sonny listons age since he ran away from a plantation when he was a young boy and since he was on his own when he ran away nobody knew his real age. When he fought Ali he was said to be 34 but some people believed he was close to 50
He could be the unofficial oldest heavyweight champion but we’ll never know
The best evidence, including U.S Census data, indicate that Sonny was born in the summer of 1930. That would make him a little older than his "official" age, but nowhere near as old as rumor would have it.
@haider2006 ...Liston wasn't anywhere near fifty years old.
@@brucescott4261and how would u know
50 how old are you
For a Heavyweight, Ali's handspeed was incredible.
@@danielrivera2365 so true. In this fight his hands were lightning. He was able to put together combinations that came from everywhere. And Ali was a big heavyweight. A lot of people missed that because he was so graceful. He manhandled most heavyweights in the clinches. He was an artful boxer who studied the great ones. And very, very few could take a punch like he did, which became his achilles heel. His courage. I remember a fight where Ernie Shavers hit him with a punch that still gives me the willies. All Ali did was clown about about it.
Ali is the GOAT. Rest in peace our boxing King
Ali backed his shit up. Gotta love him
Ali's punch which knocked Liston down in the second fight was a peach, the idea that Liston dived is ridiculous.
Ali's right hand was deceptively powerful - look at the right hand punch in 1974 which was more damaging to Foreman than the flurry which KOd him seconds later for example.
Sonny stumbled into it, the 'anchor punch' was so fast I still find it impossible to decide whether Ali hit him on the chin or forehead despite the films from different angles. It's very interesting too to hear the punch land - wow.
@@ysgol3 i agree! I have watched that fight many times but this last time was the first time I listened to the sound of the knockout punch. It landed.
Ali may be the best ever but the Liston fights were sketchy, and it was not Ali's fault.
So was every fucken fight I watched
They said Ali was good talker, but I thought Sonny Liston was also good but with few words.
" He ( Clay/Ali) should be locked up for personating a boxer"
" I only know a few word"
Liston in my opinion, would have knocked out any boxer in any era in his prime, that how good he was?
Liston should have started his professional fight 10 years earlier but due to criminal record he was robbed, the best10 years of fighting.
@Sandox-b3v ...Liston was not a self promoter.
I listened to the first fight on the radio with my older brother. I was 10 and remember it so vicidly sitting there in the dark while history was made. They called Liston a big bear but when you see them in the ring Ali towered over him. He also had 10 pounds on him. It was not a close fight when Liston quit.
Ali would telegraph his punches with power, precision at superhuman speed had great movement and stylish footwork (Ali shuffle) for a big man couple that with intelligence = champion of the world 4ever
Telegraph? 😂
Power?
The speed
If you watch the first fight Liston doesn’t cut the ring off but is content to follow Ali as he backpeddled this worked against him
Sonny made some Big Muniii that night ….
My Dad called that punch , Dee Phantom Punch !!
To have knocked out Liston and Foreman (probably two hardest hitters ever), in their primes, and both were champions, I believe Ali when he said, "I am the greatest."
Wasn't the hardest hitter
@@hectoreason7306they say Earnie Shavers was the hardest hitter...fought and lost also to Ali
Liston wasn't in his prime. That was between 1957-60. He was injured prior to their bout in 1963. His camp attempted to have the bout canceled, but the Miami Boxing Commission denied the request. The injury (a torn tendon in his shoulder) was progressively aggravated throughout the first six rounds.
13:19: Correction. Sonny Liston was found dead in the master's bedroom by his wife. Not in a hotel room.
I wonder how much Liston got for throwing their 2nd fight.
Both fights were fixed.
Here for it gentleman 🙏🙌
Is it me or did Sonny Liston keep a fresh cut. His fade and line up stayed fresh. He must got a haircut every day
I always thought the same thing haha
Cassius Clay equipped of everything he can change his style instantly the boxer with 1001 different punches
This was Roy Jones vs James Tony
Yeah it was freaking me out at first. The hell is Carlos Padilla doing in there LOL. Then I realized different fight
@KevinMacky ...False!
Sonny was old, look at his body it's a old man body. He was probably 10 years or more older than he said he was.
As a huge Liston fan I was shocked to see the thumbnail because I feel he’s not as remembered as he deserves
With his deadly left long chap, Sonny can not reach Ali. Fairly and squarely, Ali beat Sonny with speed and ring savvy
Ali put that belt to his bottom 🐐🐐🐐
Surprisingly Bert Sugar never come to Liston's aid - smh
I have seen a lot of fighters all the way back to Robinson in his later fights . Sonny Liston was the scariest.Tyson Foreman Shavers. Have you ever actually looked at Sonny Liston?
So anyway, I started blasting...
"The gun was full of blanks..."
Oh, okay. Carry on then...
Liston was the greatest
2nd,just behind his idol Joe Louis
What's his name? Cassius Clay.
Speed kills
Ali era mucho más que un simple trash talking, él inventó eso, era poeta, hacia predicciones, todo eso comenzó con él, es el padre del Rap
Hell, almost every fight in boxing was.
Why are you mentioning Jake Paul? I thought this channel was about real boxers
👍 Well said, mate. I'm sick of hearing about this social media influencer 'boxing' crap...Worse than WWE...
Ally had no respect for sonny he was a old man when ally boxed him.
as i recall, i thought it was strange that liston overdosed after the second fight with ali and died...and his back hurt making him stop the fight?..
in the few interviews he do. you thought i wouldnt catch that. 4:30
Listen closely. It's "he'd do".
Jerry Lewis couldn’t see it. Ali seemed genuinely disappointed.
Thats the night he became the greatest
After the Tyson/Paul fight last night boxing is officially a joke.
Growing up in Louisville during this time, Ali/Cassius, was such a pleasure and source of real pride for everyone who lived there.
"The Louisville Lip"
Ali was the GREATEST EVER!!
Ali trashes🗑 but he never fought in the ring😅😅😅
What fools. They should have stopped the fight and have Listons gloves examined right away! Most stupid sport there is.
I really think at this point “draft dodger” shouldn’t be spoken about this Man. Are we still advocating serving a country that made you a second class citizen while demanding you serve in its military?
This was not a fight of Ali against Sunny.It was a fight which set the pace for the freedom of the black slave from the white master.
As pessoas fazem parecer que Ali venceu fácil,quando não foi bem assim,a luta foi dura
"Well if you want to lose your money
Then bet on sonny ( dummy )"
( Ofcourse he wasn't allowed to say that to a white man - in the 1960s 😂)
Ali was a student of The Hon. Elijah Muhammad. All the fear of white people was out of Ali , Malcolm and those of us who followed Mr. Muhammad
A rumores que sonny entregou umas das lutas
He was really no match for Cassius Clay
That's what you get for cheating..
How it is not more obvious even to casual fans that Liston threw BOTH FIGHTS to Ali is beyond me. Liston took a dive for Ali
Ali really Did back up all that trash talk and knock fools out Ali the Greatest Ever
Mafia Liston and his death, phantom punch it was all very iffy, saying that Ali was superb
That weak little punch wasnt enough for Liston to be nocked dawn like that...that fight was rigged
I’ve seen cases of fighters getting KO’d from a punch they didn’t expect
Both Liston fights were fixed. Pretty obvious.
I believe that this version of Ali could even have beaten Mike Tyson. But only this version. Tyson was insurmountable, but at the time of this Liston match Ali had peak intelligence and peak power, the intelligence giving him that miniscule edge over Tyson.
Both legends and simultaneous GOATs
This version of ali could only beat tyson. Every version could beat tyson except Parkinson ali!
2:32
Liston was a cheat.
Jake paul ? Wot a joke !
Fixed fight
To whoever uploaded this video, please get your facts correct. He was not Muhammad Ali at that time as he had not yet converted. He was, and the history books will show he was Cassius Clay.
I always thought Tyson in his prime would best Ali in his. After watching this footage I think Ali was truly the greatest.
If he keeps talking jive Clay will get him in 5
If he wants some more he’ll get him in 4
Sonny Liston was nothing more than a placeholder. He became champion by beating Floyd Patterson. Sonny Liston was nothing but hot air. Rocky Marciono had just retired. Liston had no credentials whatsoever. Stop it
Liston lost only 4 times in his entire career counting 2nd Ali fight (questionable loss-topic for another day ). Sonny defeated all comers including formidable Cleveland Williams twice (whom George Foreman called one of the three hardest punchers he ever saw/trained with). George, who also trained with Sonny, also said that Liston was the only fighter that he had ever been in the ring with who could back him up. Joe Louis at ringside called Sonny the greatest ever the night Liston dethroned Floyd Patterson for the heavyweight championship. Read what Sonny’s contemporaries said about him. He could knock fighters out with his 84-inch jab as an offensive tool. If Ali had not come along, Liston could have ruled the division for the duration of the 1960s. Liston could have beaten Frazier with similar results to Foreman/Frazier (if Frazier had been willing to fight him in the late 1960s---no slighting Smokin' Joe--nobody wanted to fight Liston). In his prime Liston would have cut through today's heavyweights like a knife through butter.
How's it controversial? He clearly beat his ass.. over and done with.
Liston was bum, never defended his belts, he is like andy ruiz, he win the belts and lost it in the same year, so come on guys don’t make him great fighter when he win against no one
Liston defended his title twice. He won a rematch against Patterson and lost the title to Clay. He lost the rematch to Ali a year later. Never fought for the title again.
@ okay then you agree with me, he win the belt and lost it directly 🤷🏻♂️
@@RareMan-d3wclear you only know him only from title fights he would have been champion in 1958 if not for Patterson shamelessly avoiding him
@@RareMan-d3wyou're just an Ali meat rider
If you knew diddly squat about history of boxing you would know it was common knowledge that liston was the uncrowned champ for 4 years but no one would give him a fight...comments like these are hilarious to people who know boxing..I don't mean to sound rude but to call him a bum is downright foolish bud.. the only person to really ever beat him is a young prime ali?!
Ali wasn't a draft dodger he was a conscientious objector .
The video they show of Mohammed Ali being shot at that person is not sunny listed that is a legendary well-known actor of that time
yup def not Sonny
Yeah, that's from the 1977 film "The Greatest". Ali played himself. Roger Mosley played Liston. So that guy was Mosley.