Peaceful Hitler in HoI4 / RP storytelling
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- Опубліковано 8 лют 2023
- As we all know, Germany lost World War II. Much of this loss had to do with the fact that the Third Reich had to fight practically the entire world. But what would have happened if Hitler had not started any wars, and had only taken advantage of Europe's reluctance to fight? In this video I will tell you what could have happened.
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The cursed timeline where he won the Nobel peace prize
He won it irl tho
@@profracist it got cancelled I think
@@randomlol437 yeah but he still got it 🤣imagine the face of the ppl who gave hitler the nobel prize when he declared war on the allies ☠☠☠☠
@@profracist no not really but it would be funny if he did got it
@@profracist Hitler did not declare war on the allies it was the other way around
so basically, Hitler took a page from Bismarck, and ensured that, if a war happened, he wasn't seen as the aggressor, and thus no one came to save the other guy
Ironically this Hitler is a much more powerful one than canon Hitler because of just how far he could spread his ideas here
Hitler irl was man of the year in time magazine
Which if terrifying to think of, no limit to his racial ideals, that germanization of the land sounds like a stuff from nightmares
@@carlosmarquez5901 Countries turning german, i.e. productive and prosperous, how terrible. What a nightmare compared to corrupt and indebted EU countries in our timeline.
@@die1mayer you know quite well what germanization meant to the Nazi....it meant racial cleanse let's no play dumb here, this means atrocities and killings
@@carlosmarquez5901 killing Russians isn't even considered a bad thing anymore
in this timeline people on the internet would have hitler PFPs and wouldn't get shamed for it 😂
It depends cause Germany would have still ended in a civil war, and still looked as a fascist and a dictator still, and for his ''Reichkommisiarats'' I personally think people could have wonder maybe what they could have done there, maybe spies and other stuff so no, everyone would know his horrible actions even in such a world.
One word: holocaust
are you not aware of rw twitter?
@@AshleyGravesreal stalin is still regarded as a good person by some so how would you know
Kayne West would be seen as just another stereotypical ultranationalist in that timeline
"First time I played HoI4 I had barely any idea how most of the systems worked, I think the Bosphorus update was out at the time. I just spent my time researching techs and building up Germany's economy and infrastructure. I did not even militarize the Rhine, instead Stalin decided that he wanted Poland all for the USSR, I did not stop the Soviet's France and other Allies did that. The Soviets were being attacked from all sides if I remember correctly, 1.3 Mil dead, meanwhile Germany just sat and watched."
Why is this in quotation marks
Vell, Zhat just happened.
@@majin1395 the 'tism hitting you hard, huh?
Apparently me too. Can you please clarify it for me 🥺?@@redwall1521
I like how you persue alternate history and this scenario specifically without acting like hitler could ever be some peaceful bastion of good and instead chosing him to just slightly changing his facist perspective.
Hitler tried to be peaceful even with Poland. They were allies until the Polish stabbed him in the back
Could he not?
@@telavivgamingHe was a insane ultra-nationalist methhead nothing good could come from him
@@telavivgaming Only if he was let into art school.
"peaceful bastion of good"
yes that's what Germany was in 1934 for several years.
An interesting scenario. In essence, World War II would have happened, but with the USSR as the main enemy of the Allies rather than Germany. And the conclusion that Hitler would have gotten everything he wanted without engaging in a massive two-front war is a wonderful irony. Of course, the Hitler in your simulation was not, unfortunately, the Hitler in the real world. And such is history.
The only problem would of been the german economy - if it wasnt for war it probably would have caved in on itself. there was a massive amount of debt already
@@jesus2850 Yep. That would have cooked it. But remember, in the simulation, Germany reoccupied the Rhineland, and acquired Czechoslovakia and Austria (OK, that was a booby prize) and a large swath of Italy which would have helped the economy. The "responsible" Nazi government would then have had to rein in spending and (gasp) raise taxes to ease the debt pressure. This is possible without war. But you're right. The inflated debt created by the Nazi rearmament is the fly in the ointment.
@@chrisschultz8598 people would be mad about the taxes but there life would still be alot better than it was before the nazis so they would not really care in the end I think.
@@serax126 well no eventually the German system would stall into what essentially be soviet union style shortages and the one German state union such as real life with the nazis were drastic burdens on the state. The private interests of financial and industrial sectors of the economy were bogged down and dragged down considerably even when the good years came not just when the war came around. Part of Hitler's populism was entirely pro labor and anti agrarian like Stalin. Why were the good years good in Germany if these programs were awful? well firstly the programs weren't in effect in totality just initially by the good years. The primary reason why the good years were good was that the previous government practiced austerity measures and the economy recovered on it's own but it was political suicide for a politician to actually balance the nations finance.
@@serax126 It's the one lesson that totalitarian governments never learn. Serve the people and they will support you. Instead, you get organizations like the Gestapo and KGB that try to force everyone to think the same and follow some cookie-cutter philosophy that eventually fails and takes everyone with them.
And so Hitler conquered Poland with... not invading Poland? Wait, something is not right...
Diplomacy go brrrr
Hitler allowed Europe to embrace fascism instead of forcing them into it.
Math is not mathing
"Forces from around the world came to aid...
such as Colombia who sent 16 divisions"
Seems reasonable to me
Lore of Peaceful Hitler in HoI4 momentum 100
Basically he didn't let himself become the invading force unless aiding his allies and so noone really held a grudge to aid his enemy against him.
It would be interesting to see USA and Germany having a cold war in this timeline
Germany can't compete with usa in this timeline as they have russia also on their side which would be nail in coffin for germans as they controlled oil and almost most of world resources i think japan will stay and align with germany but still allies will win the cold war because of bigger economies of allies and a better model to grow their economies
There is nuke @@minicos3413
@@minicos3413did you say that out of rage and patriotism instead of objective fact? It just felt like I was screamed at in that comment instead of being told something.
@@carbag7857 no,more like hatred towards the Nazis
@@minicos3413 what hatred? They’ve only done good things in this timeline? It’s like me saying that uh Zimbabwe could conquer the US because I didn’t like how the US took too long to join both world wars?
Wait so if hitler convinced stalin to attack first the allies wouldn't fight hitler? I wonder how possible that could have been
May ally wanted to fight him but when they saw he is not involving in the war of poland, they would have no reason to make war of poland harder and risk the possibility of a Berlin-Moscow pact.
No because both countries attacked but the allies only attacked Germany
@@Syndixal Germany attacked before, tho.
the allies only did appeasement because they wanted the soviet union to be weakened by fascism. with their countries being attacked (France was occupied, GB had sea lion and US had Pearl harbor), also merchant vessels being sunk for years now, they joined the war, but only started their invasion when the USSR was winning the eastern front already, because they wanted to occupy more territory to encircle the soviet union and put its industrial and political centers in range of nuclear missiles (and then got mad when the USSR did the same in cuba). this allowed them to pressure the only recently developed comintern into putting more funds in the army, denying them to prioritize economic growth and consumer goods, which destabilized them and thus allowed privatization, so western capitalists could exploit these unemployed masses after their companies were bought out or driven away by competition and also western acquisation of these resources for cheap money. if the allies truly disliked fascism, wehrmacht chief of staff Adolf Heusinger wouldn’t have later became NATO chief of staff, for example
Well, Allies were indeed considering going to war with Stalin around the time Finland was being invaded, after initial stance of "let's not push Germany and Soviets any closer" they adopted during invasion of Poland didn't really benefit anyone.
Germany knocking out France put an end to those ideas and later on Soviet leadership was operating too convenient mutual meatgrinder to be discarded.
i love how you try to justify the horrible peace deals the ai does lol
This video is extremly underrated
I did this last night mostly for military build up, but didn’t do anything to increase world tension to only have Portugal of all countries to declare war on me
Also the allies attacked the Soviet Union
This scenario was really interesting, Please continue making videos!!!
Time Traveller: sneezes
Timeline:
This was a great video, I really liked the concept and the great detailed telling of it. Your a chad mate.
Do you plan on do a exile government style story ?
I have a lot of ideas and government in exile is part of them. I don't know how soon or about whom such a video will come out, though.
@@synthetic_history 😁
@@synthetic_history Poland has an exile tree ig
"What if Addy took his meds?"
So...in this timeline we will don't have the downfall...the best (meme)movie ever...T-T
Great video and storytelling i loveee it, keep going up sir 💪
we would probably get soviet downfall... who knows
@@xxxhentaiqueenxxx9809 Have a scene of Stalin breaking down, yelling at his generals: "I should've stayed peaceful like Hitler!"
@@LeeAndergen "We can have zhukovs counter attack in Moscow and win the war." the generals look at stalin "Comrade Stalin, Zhukov didnt have enough men and had to fall back."
@@LittleFunnyCanadian"Have Zhukov counterattack in Moscow." "Uh, Comrade Stalin... Moscow has... Moscow has been wiped off the face of the Earth."
"FEGELEIN!!!!" - Dolfy after being trolled for the 1000th time by Fegelein's antics
Next video, use player-led Peace Conferences or State transfer tool
useful mods to make good borders :D
Least cursed hoi4 title-
What if Hitler wasn't rejected by the Vienna Fine Arts School
Some Time traveler:throw a rock at the water
The timeline:
This is a pretty cool idea to represent it in hoi4
You have just earned a new sub.
he is such a stand-up guy ...
Leningrad not renamed Ludendorf? cursed.
BORDER GORE
This is the timeline where he was accepted into art school but still decided to get into politics, but this time…
he done it to create peace
Hitler really is no longer like me in this path
Great video 👌
Wholesome timeline
except for those million of people who would get killed by hitlers policies.
@@medi9945 NO SHIT HOLMES , THANKS FOR THE NEW KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU PROVIDED ME WITH
@@sotirisl9388 then it would not be so "wholesome" would it?
@@medi9945 it was an "ironic" comment , wasn't it ,maybe you shouldn't take everything seriously,should you ?
@@sotirisl9388 well what was ironic about your comment? You maybe should write it in a different way. This is retarded.
shift click when making field marshal frontlines for a unified line without individual general lines.
I remember when Rimmy did this. It was excellent.
For those of you who don't know why he took over Czechia, it should be noted that Czechoslovakia was an artificially constructed country, mostly run by Czechs while sidelining Slovaks and Germans, as an example, nearly 99% of public functionaries were Czech in a country that was barely over 50% Czech.
After the Munich agreement, Slovak leadership suddenly declared independence and approached Berlin for guarantees. AH accepted this, and thus Slovakia became, for the first time in history, an independent nation state.
The fate of Czechia was already sealed however. Political instability was so high as a result of hostile foreign policy before the Munich agreement, the agreement itself, and the declaration of Slovakian independence, that the Czech president, Dr. Emil Hácha, flew to Berlin to secure the same kind of guarantees that AH had offered to Bratislava; this however was not accepted, as a result of bad diplomatic faith between the two nations, and as the Czech state was already in a state of collapse, Hácha decided to order the army to stand down in order to avoid pointless war and bloodshed.
The result was that Czechia was split in two regions, Bohemia and Moravia, which experienced nominal independence within the Reich, much like Scotland does with the UK today. The citizens of these new "protectorates" had independent internal politics but no right to foreign policy, they were also excluded from military service and conscription.
I didn't write this in order to "justify" something, but I often feel as if the entire story is taken very lightly and never talked about in much detail, so I felt as if I had to provide some context and clarification, thanks.
And with no invasion into German held lands the holocaust was not discovered by foreign powers in this timeline
The music everytime Mussolini appears os hilarious. He is the comic relief of this story.
Amazing video!
A wholesome funny mustache man… Yes, Interesting…
Actually, the Soviet secret service replaced the real Hitler with Charlie Chaplin, but it backfired on them.
The real timeline , Churchill rejects all the peace tratments of Hitler.
Pls make a sequel
I think Stalin would just let his army starve on the the Polish Border (less mouth to feed) and wait for Germany to attack first, altough if Trosky win the USSR power strugle i can see this scenario happen
This Is My Average Hoi4 Game As Peaceful Germany:
Berlin-Moscow Axis, Only Volunteers Until The Allies Are Lead By Fascist Britain, China Joins The Polish Faction(Miedzyrmoze), The Americans Represent The Democracies And Then Everything Goes To Sh*t Because Greece Had A War Goal On Turkey, So Germany Is In A Defensive War And Fascist Greece Is The Only Reason WW2 Started (The Allies Were Already At War With The Co-Prosperity Sphere And The American Entente We Were The Only Faction At Peace Aside From Soviet Expansion Into Poland And Others Wich Caused Poland To Be A Puppet Aswell As Finland).
Long Story Short, We Have Japanese Jordan And Kurdistan Is A Reichskommissariat And That's Not Even The Worst Of It.
ANOTHER War Starts Against The Chinese Lead Miedzyrmoze We Win And Due To Qing China Being My Puppet Japan Is Forced Into The BMA Trough A Qing Focus That Gives Japan 2 Choices: Submit Or War Thus Making The Co-Prosperity Sphere Lead By Sinkiang.
Another War Starts To Make The Reichskommissariat Qing With 3M Men In The Field Turn Into The Chinse Empire.
Longer Story Short (El-Salvador With 50 Divisions) We Have The Invasion Of Tibet In 1950 By German E50 A Panzers And America Just Chilling With An Egyptian Puppet Half The World Is In The BMA And We Fought The Only Major War Defensively (It Lasted A Few Months Because Plan Z, 500 Ships, Sealion) And World Peace Has Been Achived.
*G E R M A N Y E M E N*
You should try player led peace conferences
I keep getting videos that give me my own quotes
What mod are you using for the changed map stats?
Can you do, what if German Reich and Poland WW2 border was still alive in Millenium Dawn? Like, from 1938 - 2024?? This was interesting!
Ради прикола напишу, что у тебя прекрасный советский акцент, товарищ :)
Крутые видео как у потолота. Топ. Продолжай снимать)
How.. Life would be truly great if everyone would agree with everything.
No it wouldn’t
Siempre habrá un grupo de gente que evitará que esto sea así 👃
Is there a cold war mod that shows the aftermath of this video?
Unfortunately no
Hmm if that's the case then someone else should probably make a mod about this video
We can see why this work in a game and not real life....
My favorite type of game to play. Not being NICE as Germany/Italy/Russia/Japan, but being NICER.
what mods were used in this run? (sorry if it is a famous mod, i'm more of a vanilla player, but this focus tree looks alot better than the current german tree)
"Road to 56" which changes Focus Trees, gives new Technologies for the years till 1956 and new Portraits for leaders.
Your voice sounds a lot like Possible History.
whats the song in the beginning of the video
I tried doing this in UMC.
But diplomatic hitler.i still build and tried to expand as much as possible without any war. I did manage that until, Yugoslavia. Where i manage to do the first part but 2nd part didn't. Thankfully nobody in the aliies join since the world tension isn't as High.
(For context this mod added Diplomatic system for Germany and Italy and their relation, in the new 1.9 update)
War only broke in Soviet Union with Poland lol. ofc we guarantee them. After danzig.
Synthist : his ideolygy
benito mussolini : 😎🔪
what is the focus tree called
what mode is it?
Please use state transfer tool for next time.
Technically this is exactly what austrian painter wanted;
His original planned beginning of military operations was 1950, letting his allies arm and industrialize for a solid decade like the soviets would in the 50s for the cold war.
So in other words this is a hitler that bided his time by obeying Versailles and playing ball with England's diplomats for a solid ten years, knowing the Trotskyites and Stalinists were going to butt heads in the 1930s and divert all attention to them on the international media coverage and geopolitical lense.
Imagine a second polish-soviet war and what great optics it would create for painter's regime, since it would be an act of aggression by only Stalin.
He can then get the polish corridor and work with the czechs in gaining the western polish territory and the British and French would be too pre-occupied with the soviets to care, plus with the Germans "safeguarding" central Europe alongside Hungary and Bulgaria, they'd need to come to an agreement with Germany in exchange for stopping the reds.
You are the best HoI4
so in this timeline kanye is gonna be acclaimed for his declarations?
wow very nice vid
wow, this all sounds so similar....
If Hitler was not Hitler, yes it could work..
ахахах, прям как у Потолота
perfect!
i love rp hoi4
Передаю привет потолоту
Lawful Good Timeline
Why is Christopher Lee ruling Russia? 14:39?
Make more, please
what an actual nice guy he even befriended my country (its Turkey)
I tried this several times but the Brits always take the "Preemptive Strike" focus.
Ofc, Churchill was being paid to wage war on Germany.
Sure mr. iosef floerbles@@Reinhard_Erlik
100/100 Чел, найс контент!
cool
If Astolf didnt started taking drugs
I literally never seen anyone else write his name so badly
Is this RT56?
A dream world?
wholesome
what is the name of the mod?
I think road to 56
Finally, the good Ending.
He always wanted Peace
not really
read Hossbach Memorandum
"What if he wasn't mentally unstable?"
what mod is this?
Road to 56
@@synthetic_history thanks :3
This is a cool idea
Everyday the soviet union was getting stronger, so it was a "matter" of time really of when Germany invaded the Soviet Union
свистнуто у потолота от и до
The good ending?!
Повествование и идея слишком уж схожи с Потолотом...
Ладно...
I think it's a good ending for Germany
Wouldn’t the hate against Jew heavily persisted tho?
@@menthy4953 or not, nowbody knows
@@menthy4953 Good!
@@SpaceRaptor510 my brother in christ💀
@@menthy4953 An all White europe without islam and africans is legit heaven!
Hitler if he got into art school and joined the SPD
Потолот с али экспресс
Um mundo perfeito ❤😢 se n fosse os pogroms contra os alemães que os poloneses estavam fazendo contra a população alemã Hitler n teria invadido, e a história talvez tivesse caminhado para isso ai
the good ending
Churchill y los jewjins quisieron evitar que esto se hiciese realidad.
Name of the mod
Road to 56