The Renaissance of the Byzantine Empire in EU4 / RP storytelling

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  • Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
  • The history of the Eastern Roman Empire, aka Byzantium, from the fall of Rome to the fall of Rome No. 2, Constantinople, is a story of constant decadence, losses and defeats alternating with small rises and successes, which nevertheless never brought the country to pre-crisis levels. In its thousand years of decline - the margin of strength of the Hellenistic empire was enormous - there were many such glimmers of hope, and even more opportunities for them. I'll tell you the story of how the last such opportunity laid the foundation for the rebirth of the Empire, and the story of this rebirth, using mod MEIOU & TAXES 3.0 for Europa Universalis IV.
    Links:
    Patreon page: / synthist
    MEIOU & TAXES 3.0: steamcommunity.com/sharedfile...
    Timecodes:
    00:00 - Introduction
    02:10 - Fall, rise and fall( real history synopsis)
    10:54 - John V
    20:11 - John VI the Righteous
    30:23 - Thomas the Pious
    35:05 - John VII
    37:12 - Prokopios I
    41:11 - Regent Eirene Karatzas
    43:25 - John VIII
    52:37 - Conclusion
    #eu4 #alternatehistory #history
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  • @thebigflop3118
    @thebigflop3118 10 місяців тому +494

    Constantine could have saved the empire, all he needed to do was | > debug_mode > annex tur > winwars

    • @ihatebritain3942
      @ihatebritain3942 7 місяців тому +14

      Or he could've merced up

    • @requiem6465
      @requiem6465 6 місяців тому +18

      Tech 50
      Money 1000000
      Adm 99999
      Dip 99999
      Mil 99999
      Reformprogress 1000000
      Prestige 200
      Armyprofessionalism 10000
      Armytradition 100
      Navytradition 100
      Winwars

    • @deppresedonion5146
      @deppresedonion5146 4 місяці тому

      cash*@@requiem6465

    • @joshuasepeda3289
      @joshuasepeda3289 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@requiem6465thanks for the tips.

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 10 місяців тому +740

    You make all the thoughts I have while playing historical games sound as cool as I think I am.

    • @PunishedMushu
      @PunishedMushu 10 місяців тому +29

      Hearing other people do the same makes me less of a weirdo, do you also stop because you get into your thoughts?

    • @samwill7259
      @samwill7259 10 місяців тому +20

      @@PunishedMushu Man I do that while just like...walking around during my day

    • @PunishedMushu
      @PunishedMushu 10 місяців тому +3

      @@samwill7259 same, but I was thinking like while playing games like eu4 or vic2

    • @samwill7259
      @samwill7259 10 місяців тому +12

      @@PunishedMushu I do often find I've been staring at a paused screen for 20 minutes, yes

    • @martinrosenberger
      @martinrosenberger 10 місяців тому +4

      @@samwill7259 same, although I do it with CK3

  • @synthetic_history
    @synthetic_history  10 місяців тому +51

    Took a little longer than two weeks, but it is what it is.

  • @pohiena2666
    @pohiena2666 10 місяців тому +393

    Really liked the story, especially how you adapted historical/gameplay elements into the narrative, but I am curious what was the population of the empire at the end of the video?

    • @synthetic_history
      @synthetic_history  10 місяців тому +116

      20 million

    • @jaydensouth4502
      @jaydensouth4502 10 місяців тому +16

      ​@@synthetic_historygod damn

    • @martinrosenberger
      @martinrosenberger 10 місяців тому +21

      @@jaydensouth4502 pretty low compared to the population of those regions in the Roman Empire

    • @kakyoin9688
      @kakyoin9688 3 місяці тому +1

      @@martinrosenbergerif this EU4 doesn’t this follow the Black Death? If I remember the Roman Empire was once again devastated.

    • @martinrosenberger
      @martinrosenberger 3 місяці тому +1

      @@kakyoin9688 by the 15th century Europe had already passed through the Black Death, in fact this time Period was the most populated and rich of all medieval history, if you compare it to prime Roman Empire its worse

  • @youthoughtaboutit6946
    @youthoughtaboutit6946 10 місяців тому +135

    Now I’m curious about a successful Latin Empire storyline from you.
    Also a successful and centralized HRE that isn’t just a greater germsny, but if it’s greatest historical boundaries and forward, and a culture that actually gradually either combines its constituent cultures, or latinizes/romanizes over time

  • @BasilTheBased
    @BasilTheBased 10 місяців тому +166

    Very epic! I find it interesting how even though Rome endured, it ended up almost repeating the history of the Ottomans, being the scourge of Catholic Europe. I enjoyed this!
    Roma Invicta!

  • @DarkBuddhist
    @DarkBuddhist 10 місяців тому +95

    This is a wonderful piece of work. I've been thinking of something similar as well, and it encapsulates well the internal narrative of playing these games as it happens. Great job!

    • @GasMan1918
      @GasMan1918 10 місяців тому +11

      Oh hey, I know you! Really enjoy your videos! (Especially your Byzantine Tale one)

    • @DarkBuddhist
      @DarkBuddhist 10 місяців тому +8

      @@GasMan1918 Haah, yeah thats me :D Im glad you liked it!

    • @martinrosenberger
      @martinrosenberger 9 місяців тому +1

      Love your videos man 🇦🇱 🇦🇱 🇦🇱

    • @aetu35
      @aetu35 9 місяців тому +1

      i think this guy likes byzantium (not sure though)

  • @Loalrikowki
    @Loalrikowki 10 місяців тому +50

    That was a fun ride. I imagine that another century of consolidation by the empire would result in a modest expansion of the western borders to include Corsica and Sardinia, the conquest of northern Italy to the Alpine border, completing the conquest of the Adriatic coast. A campaign to convert Hungary and transform it into a border march would be a prudent way of keeping the Austrians in check and insurance against any diplomatic breakdown with Poland, which seems to be becoming a less reliable ally as they grow in strength. Similarly, I expect a further expansion into the Arabian peninsula and east Africa would be attempted in the interest of securing the Red Sea to secure a more easily controlled trade route for access to goods from south and east Asia. A more ambitious program of containment against Poland could be achieved through the establishment of a border march in the Caucasus mountain range.

  • @malaysianmapping9767
    @malaysianmapping9767 10 місяців тому +35

    ngl tho, a mega campaign similar to that of Isorrow combined with the storytelling would be dope but unfortunately hard to make😔. Regardless, great video :D

    • @synthetic_history
      @synthetic_history  10 місяців тому +18

      There will be one day.

    • @fallingphoenix2341
      @fallingphoenix2341 10 місяців тому +6

      ​@@synthetic_history I think you had a fair point at the end of this video, EU4 doesn't punish too much growth. There's no natural way for a player state to see a relative decline without intentionally making subpar decisions as a player. But the game needs it, a way that expansion leads to weakness, a way for outperforming to be possible in the short term, but not without eventual regression to the mean.
      Paradox games are essentially story generating engines, at least in single player. A good story has set backs, and tension throughout.

    • @ythunderboy8694
      @ythunderboy8694 10 місяців тому +1

      @@synthetic_history Erm tomorrow...

  • @CrisisHedgehog
    @CrisisHedgehog 10 місяців тому +14

    I swear to God, if this doesn’t get a bunch of views I’m gonna be very upset

  • @josephpentecost401
    @josephpentecost401 10 місяців тому +30

    i think it would be intresting for a part 2 in this as it could be based around a set of kings being obsessed about the restoration of the roman empire

  • @alexisareia1226
    @alexisareia1226 9 місяців тому +7

    This is exactly the kind of content I've wanted regarding Paradox games. This was stellar, thank you.

  • @Vadim_Korolev
    @Vadim_Korolev 10 місяців тому +17

    Great video! Glad there were no colonization going on, I always found this stuff ridiculous as for the Byzantium. The wait was worth it honestly. Keep up the high quality content!

    • @thecatfather857
      @thecatfather857 8 місяців тому +2

      Oh, I'll bet that's gonna be in Part 2... or 3.

  • @pashauzan
    @pashauzan 7 місяців тому +4

    I love how the Ottomans gradually migrated east

  • @santiagobarreto9357
    @santiagobarreto9357 10 місяців тому +6

    BROOO WHERE HAS THIS CHANNEL BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE?!?!??? Amazing, quality content, cheers mate!

  • @Yes-qj4bi
    @Yes-qj4bi 10 місяців тому +32

    I really loved this video and I just have to ask how did you recreate certain things like Eretna and Karaman declaring war on the Ottomans was it really just a coincidence of you being lucky. also these peacedeals too you got a lot of land for doing little like in that war for Macedonia. But yeah your channel is criminially underrated it's a fun to watch documentary I hope your channel massively grows in popularity wishing you a prosperous future.

  • @Eazy-ERyder
    @Eazy-ERyder 8 місяців тому

    This is really kewl. I like how you tell it and the visuals make it more interesting. Thanks!

  • @roastedturtle0820
    @roastedturtle0820 9 місяців тому

    Goodness gracious this was such a well put together video! You have a knack for entertaining storytelling. Keep it up dude!

  • @Hannibal-fe3cp
    @Hannibal-fe3cp 10 місяців тому

    I love you so much, this is the kind of thing I want... So glad youtube recommended your channel, going to watch every single rp/narrative like it's a drug

  • @Ceesarps
    @Ceesarps 7 місяців тому

    I am half way through the video and im just amazed at how much work you put into it. Incredible!

  • @m.a.t.a.s
    @m.a.t.a.s 8 місяців тому +1

    I love it man! One of the most immersive things to listen to while actually playing EU4

  • @brandonbeilbymcleod6546
    @brandonbeilbymcleod6546 10 місяців тому +3

    I'm only a minute into the video but this mod makes the game look 10 years older

    • @Zakkious
      @Zakkious 10 місяців тому +1

      it makes it look good, yes

  • @mordreek
    @mordreek 10 місяців тому +7

    I really had fun with this and have been watching it over and over like i would a history documentary. For what it is worth this is easily one of yoru best movies and I'd love to see more like it if not a sequel.
    As for what I think of what will happen to the Eastern Roman Empire, I think ultimately it would depend on how much it was able to adapt. The main issue of the ottomans was that they stagnated and kept to their spheres of influence while europe went all over the world and as a result grew far past them.
    If the romans were able to keep up with those developments, and continue to make advances of their own, I can see them taking advantage of their control of the Egyptian territories to essentially skip africa via the red sea and maintain a trade advantage in the Asian sphere. This could coincide with their focus on reclaiming the territories of Alexander's great conquest as well.
    Another key point is if the Orthodox church is able to maintain good relations if not convert Poland and settle matters with the Lutherans, as it would avoid a case of hte russian/greek orthodox split as happened IRL in the case of the former and in the case of the latter it'd avoid many years of religions wars or at least would be easier for them to find common ground with the lutherans "The pope was indeed a greedy asshole." vs the ottomans just being straight up the enemy of all christians.

  • @BasileusOriginal
    @BasileusOriginal 10 місяців тому +2

    Just found your Video and channel, absolute great work! I think everyone RPs his EU4 Campaigns in his head (me at least lol), but you really displayed that to your viewers in a fantastic way. Keep it up!
    Also love to see people playing with M&T, as i never played EU4 without it for several years.

  • @chadgoose7886
    @chadgoose7886 9 місяців тому

    What an insanely awesome video, keep it up

  • @yoanitsa5059
    @yoanitsa5059 6 місяців тому

    Amazing video dude!
    I thank you for the great effort you put in this masterpiece, the details and time you put in it are simply astonishing.
    I hope you continue with this type of story telling/eu4 gameplay.
    Thank you!

  • @big_chungus_is_based9668
    @big_chungus_is_based9668 10 місяців тому +3

    Loved the video, an hour went by like minues, I really hope for a second part

  • @kirillp.4630
    @kirillp.4630 9 місяців тому

    This is the content I've been looking for. More MEIOU and taxes please!

  • @thenamesianna
    @thenamesianna 10 місяців тому

    I love this video. You are very good at making up history and explaining it !

  • @lospuppets5421
    @lospuppets5421 10 місяців тому +1

    loved your video so much, please continue this history. Greetings from chile.

  • @miko5742
    @miko5742 10 місяців тому +1

    really enjoyed the video!!! earned a sub, keep it up

  • @fredrikjonsson-bj5ru
    @fredrikjonsson-bj5ru 10 місяців тому

    I really liked this hope you make more of this style of content

  • @urrrr
    @urrrr 2 місяці тому

    Great video! I appreciate the subtitles

  • @saarthel8532
    @saarthel8532 10 місяців тому +14

    Great video! I love how the footages made it look even more like a documentary and it helped visualized what was happening to make the whole more immersive. I love CK3, but never got the courage to try EU4 (I always tell myself that I'll introduce myself to EU when the fifth comes out eventually someday...) and was able to follow what was happening despite having little to no idea of what was happening gameplay wise.

  • @nasisimo
    @nasisimo 5 місяців тому

    I loved it would like to see your continuation

  • @apilolomi4354
    @apilolomi4354 9 місяців тому

    This was incredibly interesting especially with the all attention to the development and reforms.

  • @kobegreen1504
    @kobegreen1504 10 місяців тому

    Absolutely amazing video, I can't believe you only have four thousand subscribers

  • @FungusDisgusticus
    @FungusDisgusticus 6 місяців тому

    Wow... This is some crazily high-quality content for someone with only 6k subs. Cheers, man! Good fortune to ya.

  • @CrisisHedgehog
    @CrisisHedgehog 10 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely fantastic content here

  • @Code-Imp
    @Code-Imp 4 місяці тому +1

    You made a great story of a great game, thank you sir

  • @lakepod577
    @lakepod577 7 місяців тому

    this is my favorite video of eu4

  • @perubieber2516
    @perubieber2516 9 місяців тому

    It seems this is one of those videos that have such a great production and a lot of work behind of it, but doesn't get by far the support and popularity it deserves.

  • @sbeaber
    @sbeaber 5 місяців тому

    This was awesome!

  • @Ksescel
    @Ksescel 10 місяців тому +2

    Amazing video. FOR THE ALGORITHM!

  • @leviathanseeker7229
    @leviathanseeker7229 6 місяців тому +1

    Your videos are spectacular.

  • @Aureus_
    @Aureus_ 10 місяців тому

    I really enjoyed this

  • @proxyepsilon4172
    @proxyepsilon4172 10 місяців тому +1

    Best video ever, subscribing.

  • @arno_groenewald
    @arno_groenewald 9 місяців тому +1

    Would love to see this resume as a mega campaign.

  • @jevusbrice
    @jevusbrice 10 місяців тому

    Great video bro!

  • @dino-bk7vh
    @dino-bk7vh Місяць тому

    Awesome video honestly makes me want to see how you would do a greater Roman Empire in imperator Rome since I can only imagine how epic that would be given your RP abilities

  • @David-bh7hs
    @David-bh7hs 10 місяців тому +1

    This is an incredible video

  • @fuadlabib703
    @fuadlabib703 10 місяців тому

    Noooo why 15k likes I really loved the video but sadly people might not discover this underrated channel I would really love part 2

  • @Texolotl
    @Texolotl 10 місяців тому +3

    Loved this! Do you have any plans to do more videos of stuff like this? A video as Japan or Colonial Britain would be so sick!

  • @glue6143
    @glue6143 10 місяців тому

    I really hope you do more of these

  • @mymejojo2
    @mymejojo2 10 місяців тому

    Loved this!

  • @mathieugariepy2948
    @mathieugariepy2948 9 місяців тому

    Impressive work!

  • @VineFynn
    @VineFynn 7 місяців тому

    Thanks for playing our mod!

  • @neridega
    @neridega 9 місяців тому

    splendid idea pls keep it

  • @maxminer9157
    @maxminer9157 10 місяців тому

    That was awesome!!

  • @Razorcarl
    @Razorcarl 9 місяців тому

    I love these types of videos

  • @Afronautsays
    @Afronautsays 5 місяців тому

    Wow, this is a fantastic

  • @givemeawand
    @givemeawand 10 місяців тому +9

    If you do ever make a sequel it may be interesting to play a different state (France, Tunis, or Sweden for example) and watch what Rome does/actively go against Rome.
    Edit: A Timurid resurgence may be interesting and would keep with the spirit of this video.

  • @medwut
    @medwut 9 місяців тому

    Awesome video

  • @user-nw9qp5nf8p
    @user-nw9qp5nf8p 10 місяців тому +1

    this was great so i am leaving a comment for the algorithm

  • @benjaminobienu5297
    @benjaminobienu5297 10 місяців тому

    This is amazing, Mr. Synthist. I like the rebirth of the Byzantine Empire and the entering of regrowth and full strength of its former glory. I believe the Byzantine Empire would not repeat the Ottoman mistakes, for Byzantium would have political leaders along the Emperor needed to focus on domestic issues, like the Pentary that caused some division in the empire, and what they are planning to do is have some way culture and religion that can be tolerated and accepted by the empire as long it did cause any problems and could separate the churches' influences. It would then Byzantines' interest to go east and maybe could achieve Julius Caesar's dreams of conquering Persia, Rome's long-time enemy. Just imagine Rome being mighty with Persia in its control along with the middle east; it would give Rome major economic and consequential defensives in the future against the Anti-Rome coalition.
    Anyway, this a remarkable alternate history, my friend; I love the narrative and passion details along with the history of this video. Please keep up the excellent work; these videos are penetrating and educational simultaneously!

  • @user-yo3je7vh5h
    @user-yo3je7vh5h 10 місяців тому

    such nice content, even i now wish to re-instal meiow&taxes 3.0

  • @willgaltney7376
    @willgaltney7376 10 місяців тому

    Such a cool video thanks

  • @vincedaprince
    @vincedaprince 10 місяців тому

    Great video!

  • @Vadim_Korolev
    @Vadim_Korolev 10 місяців тому

    Dam you Jacob! Now YT started recomending me playthroughs of Byzantium restoration!

  • @belisarius1453
    @belisarius1453 10 місяців тому

    Great storytelling!

  • @Anjana-
    @Anjana- 10 місяців тому

    This is so wholesome

  • @SUDMONEYBAGS
    @SUDMONEYBAGS 10 місяців тому +2

    44:29 Rome is literally the heart of the empire

  • @code0714
    @code0714 10 місяців тому +3

    As a Greek I loved the video and would like a continue of the story

  • @gabe5819
    @gabe5819 10 місяців тому

    As a HOI4 nerd I can say, this is pretty cool

  • @Pan_Z
    @Pan_Z 7 місяців тому

    Going to play this audio without video whenever anyone asks what happened to Constantinople. I find this version of history more reassuring.

  • @QuarbitGaming
    @QuarbitGaming 10 місяців тому

    very nice

  • @majesticed9329
    @majesticed9329 10 місяців тому

    Very cool

  • @whatsup8583
    @whatsup8583 10 місяців тому +1

    I did like it, the role play was good^⁠_⁠_⁠_⁠_⁠_⁠_⁠_⁠_⁠_⁠^

  • @jngvny
    @jngvny 10 місяців тому

    Very well made

  • @Empiriarch1945
    @Empiriarch1945 4 місяці тому

    I hope you can continue this series

  • @andremitreuter5397
    @andremitreuter5397 10 місяців тому +4

    That was amazing. It really felt like a historic youtube video.
    Just one question: What mods did you use? They look very interesting

  • @TheColombianSpartan
    @TheColombianSpartan 4 місяці тому

    'Explaining to a person that a new patch was released on his religion"
    Man you just keep hitting us with the funniets lines out of nowhere

  • @directrulefromgamerchair3947
    @directrulefromgamerchair3947 10 місяців тому

    The song playing during the John VII section is Hikanatoi by Farya Faaji, in case anyone was wondering

  • @THE_ONLY_REAL_WAFFLE
    @THE_ONLY_REAL_WAFFLE 10 місяців тому

    Nice 👍

  • @OMGClaredeluney
    @OMGClaredeluney 10 місяців тому

    I crave more content like this

  • @brabius2695
    @brabius2695 10 місяців тому

    Very good video

  • @brabius2695
    @brabius2695 10 місяців тому

    The byzantines in that play was like the otomans

  • @jalllaaavg
    @jalllaaavg 10 місяців тому

    Very Nice! But now i cant watch the video because i want to do a ME 3.0 Roman restoration now!

  • @kjlat
    @kjlat 9 місяців тому

    Very nice video. I liked the detailed narration of politics/enconimics instead of to much focus on warefare. It makes the story much more alive then just beting everyone because your not an ai and thats it. Maybe make the starting narration a bit shorter tho, if thats possible.

  • @jalllaaavg
    @jalllaaavg 10 місяців тому +1

    More Meiu story videos like this. There is no other active channels that do this.
    EDIT: fixed spelling of “other”

  • @deciusantonius7606
    @deciusantonius7606 9 місяців тому

    Nice video! Although the only issue in RP part i see is total neglection of Poland, which is catholic, annexing all Rus' lands (which were under Constatinopole Patriach rule by the time) and Rome be like "meh" :D

  • @TheQuadradus
    @TheQuadradus 10 місяців тому +1

    I see you like Florence very much!

  • @fallingphoenix2341
    @fallingphoenix2341 10 місяців тому

    Do you know if the Black Sea route was a major artery in the trade in enslaved people? I understand that the Mameluks were said to be imported from the Black Sea ports.
    But it'd make an interesting through-line if you could connect the early commercialization of the Italian city-states to later colonial empires built by the Iberians and then the North Sea states.

  • @iseeyou5061
    @iseeyou5061 7 місяців тому

    Speaking of Enlistment reform, i think it's good to refrence how France Gendarmes build their own standing army. Aside from recruiting from their own noble retinue they convert mercenary in Fremch to join rank on the France standing army, forcefully for those that refuse.

  • @sasi5841
    @sasi5841 10 місяців тому

    Rome is a really difficult start because you start off with 20+ out of a maximum of 30 war exaustion, as well as a modifier that makes it very difficult for it to die down untill 1368. It is not possible to use diplomana to reduce it. Also because of the war exaustion means you start off with -22% discipline and morale, -34% siege ability and defensiveness, also war exaustion kills off your economy and makes it very difficulty to keep your country stable.
    I my first try as rome, i was allied to Bulgaria adn poland. ottomans declared a crusade against me. But due to polish and bulgarian ships and bulgarian troops and careful engagements i managed to got a lot of warscore. It was enough to reduce ottomans to an opm. Unfortunately the expansion didnt increase my income or force limit. Instead it decreased my force limit and increased my state maintenance cost. The bigger i got the more the avg autonomy and realm expenses and corruption increased. I managed to become as big as hungary. Somehow the bigger i got the weaker i became economically and militarily. So i eventually rage quit.

  • @PrinceNation
    @PrinceNation 7 місяців тому

    I think with roleplays like this where you are playing as an empire in decline, you should roleplay some kind of reform and internal conflict before going full expansionism, just to insert realism for the tipping point that brought about revival in the Empire. You might have to make up some kind of genius influential figure that set policy for the Emperor or rewrite the story of the Emperor himself to reflect this. It'll help the story make more sense instead of just one opportunistic moment that allowed the Romans to reverse centuries of decline.

  • @arhexirthewistful5891
    @arhexirthewistful5891 10 місяців тому

    Based video

  • @ninjastormling
    @ninjastormling 10 місяців тому

    Maybe a decline and fall of the empire would be an interesting watch too after all the success? c:

  • @agate470
    @agate470 6 місяців тому

    i was listening to this in the backround and realy couldnt tell if it was true history or rp

  • @Memelord1117
    @Memelord1117 6 місяців тому

    Please continue. I want to see Gaul and Hispania restored...