Is the Humminbird APEX Worth Buying Over The Humminbird SOLIX | Best for Fishing?
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2024
- With the new Humminbird APEX coming out as the new elite model over the Humminbird SOLIX, I wanted to compare the 2 and see if the APEX is worth buying over the SOLIX. The Humminbird APEX bring a new size to the Humminbird lineup at 19 inches. THAT'S HUGE! At the end of the video I give you my opinion about the APEX and tell you if it is good for bass fishing or crappie fishing. If you are interested in Lowrance or Garmin you may want to check out Humminbird before you decide. Thank you for watching my video! Please SUBSCRIBE if you haven't already.
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A little about me:
I am James McBurnett. I live in the great state of Texas. Probably not where you would think, but I am located in the panhandle region. I moved here from Alabama and work as a Chemical Engineer in the area. After being here for a few years, I decided to get back to my roots as a fisherman. It is quite challenging in my area to find a body of water to fish. The closest lake to me is about 40 miles away.
After a couple more years, I realized how much I love fishing and wanted to share it with the world. Clearwater fishing was born. I wanted to teach people all about fishing. This includes rods, reels, fishing line, bait, lures, largemouth bass, crappie, walleye, catfish, bluegill, boats, boat trailers, outboards, and anything else related to fishing.
I also wanted to share my fishing experiences as well. To be entertaining, knowledgeable, comical, and FUN. This channel was created out of the love of the sport of fishing, and I plan to keep making content that represents that. Thank you for watching this video and reading a bit about me. Give me a shout out in the comments below and let me know you read this. Now get out there and go catch you some fish.
Equipment I use:
Truck 2018 Ram 2500 Laramie 6.7L Cummins
Boat 2011 Bass Tracker Pro Team 175 TXW with 60 hp Mercury 4 stroke EFI
Front Fish Finder Garmin Echomap Plus 93SV with Livescope
Trolling Motor Motorguide Xi3 70lb with Pinpoint GPS
Console Fish Finder Lowrance Elite 9ti
Camera 1 Canon EOS RP
Camera 2 GoPro Hero 8 Black
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UGH! I just bought a Solix, why am I watching this!? LOL Thank you for the video!
No problem! Your solix is great. Don’t worry about it!
Great video ! I just buy new apex 13 but ist alwais back order🤯🤯 Im sure the image qualitee is beter on apex to solix . I wan run with mefa 360 and talon . I think its 2 verry good machine
Fixing to get a Solix, trying to decide which size. Informative video, thanks
Glad I could help! Which size did you decide on?
12 for me
@@davidpowell5227 That's about the best size in my opinion.
I have a 10”. my next one is going to be a 12” Solix
I own 2 Apex 13's. One at the helm one up front linked to my Ulterra. I also use a Garmin 1243xsv for my live scope. Buy what you can afford. Are they pricer? Sure. But in the end the better quality screens and higher resolutions means that things are much clearer to see and easier to read...
Agree 1000%
Hi James, Thanks for this nice video. Any advice where to buy the marine electronics?
There are several great places. I get a bunch of my stuff off of Amazon. Mostly because of the fast shipping.
The primary target for the Apex is the Salt Water fishermen. Back in the Humminbird Onix and Ion days (Humminbird's first touch screen offerings), the Onix was the freshwater unit and the Ion was a flush mount unit for the Salt Water fishermen. Humminbird never had a replacement for the Ion until now. The salt water guys really want more of a flush mount unit than the Solix or Helix provides and Humminbird was loosing lots of market share in the salt water business to Raymarine, Simrad, and others.
The second transducer port is not the same as the first one. It is primarily intended for the Airmar deep water transducer... Again, for the salt water fishermen. You can't just plug something like a Mega 360 transducer into it.
With that said, I have an Apex 19 on order for use at the helm in my fresh water inland lake trolling for Stripers. With my fish finders, I'm not really looking for structure or bottom features... I'm purely looking for schools of bait fish, schools of Stripers, and scattered Stripers. I think the added resolution will be beneficial in picking up "things" in the water column, which is all I really care about.
In my case, I currently have a Solix 15 SI+ G2 (which will be traded in on the Apex 19) and a Solix 12 SI+ G2 which is dedicated to my Mega 360. I am also strongly considering the "leaked" Humminbird Mega Live which will connect via Ethernet. With my setup, I will be able to add the Mega Live and connect it to the Apex without the need of adding the powered Humminbird Ethernet Switch... One Ethernet port for the Solix 12 and one ethernet port for the Mega Live.
For those who are willing to spend the money, I think there are going to be a lot of fresh water fishermen taking a serious look at the Apex.
I appreciate your comment! You took a great amount of time to write it up to help others. I really thought the freshwater guys would stick to the Solix series, but the way you explain it there is probably a larger market there than I thought. I definitely knew the main focus was for the saltwater market, which you explained very well.
@@clearwaterfishing no problem. There tends to be a lot of product confusion which is aided a lot by wrong info being posted on Facebook.
I'm really looking forward to having the Apex 19 and Solix 12 at the helm of my Striper trolling setup. The Solix 12 is dedicated to the Mega 360 but also plan on getting the Mega Live when it comes out.
thanks👍
Welcome 👍
If you factor in the cost of the Ethernet box, and a second map card (if you go with Helix) and additional cables to run say a 2D thru hull transducer, along with the faster processor, a good case can be made to step up to the Apex. Then there is the screen resolution which is significantly higher. Prices are insane, however Bass guys think differently. Just my 2 cents. Great video by the way!
Thanks for the comparison. I feel the hdmi plug could prove to be of much value for running a IPad remotely from the main screen. The base screen could be mounted mid boat , or anywhere, while a user could be anywhere on the boat monitoring the screen mobilely on an IPad. This to me would be very useful. Also, if one wanted to video the screen effectively they could do so using a recording device that had a hdmi in port. This could be very useful to someone depend on how they want to utilize their equipment. Too bad one can not yet do these functions wirelessly yet, using wifi or Bluetooth.
Garmin’s active captain is something I would want for humminbird. It allows to to stream the scream to a phone or iPad and then you can screen record.
My guess Is the hdmi is mainly added because the apex is more designed around off shore boats where they like to put a tv/monitor on deck of say a tuna boat and be able to have the screen share from the chart plotter / sonar to the screen on deck
That makes a lot of sense. I bet that is very common.
@@clearwaterfishing ya it is pretty common on off shore fishing boats and makes sense pay 10000 for 2 units or 5,000 for 1 unit and like 100 for a TV and 20 for hdmi cord and just display on both which is what they would most likely do with both units anyway
I Have a solix 10 right now and would live to add a second unit to my boat probably a solix 12 or 15
I have a 15 at the console and have no desire to add a second. I would like to replace my helix 12 at the bow with a solix 12.
The one advantage I think of the Apex is the HDMI you can use a aqua view camera an put it on your screen. Also I wonder if having the higher resolution if that will help with clearer pictures when Mega live comes out??
Never thought of a camera like. Would be cool to see exactly what you are scanning or fishing. Do you have a camera like that?
@@clearwaterfishing no but I see where aqua view can be hooked up to lowrance an the full screen used as the video screen. I heard lots of offshore guys scanning for schools of bass find what they think are bass an use the underwater camera to confirm an move on never fish. Plus I was told by tech support at hummingbird the higher resolution will make Mega live be sharper then the solix even if it's just a little. Guess will have to wait an see. I'm thinking real hard about buying one or 2 lol. But will have to see if I do.
@@jasongiles4806 You gonna buy 2 APEXes?
@@clearwaterfishing a camera in your livewell to monitor fish condition - for for tournaments.
@@zhilinSKYfilms Also a good idea. Do you think that info can be transferred through the Ethernet network or has to plugged into the unit?
Will apex read deeper side scan depth than solix
I have a Solix 10 MSi+ G3 on my 10' jon boat. Lol
Apex, salt water, solix fresh. Ither than that, they are pretty much identical. Transdicers and everything is the same. Besides being able to connect that high powerd salt water transducer.
Resolution is different but the immage is identical. Nore pixels for bigger screen. Thats it.
On our big boats it’s very beneficial to run a HDMI cable to a very large screen
How big of a boat are you talking about?
if you have a Garmin with an HDMI out ,and the apex having an HDMI input couldn't you in theory share the screens in some useful way? and vis versa
That makes since with livescope.
I am 2 years late here, but one good use for the HDMI might be plugging in augmented reality glasses.
Hdmi is something they have been holding out on for way to long it’s about time, I have no problem spending 3-4K on a processor and ducer, this will allow a apex on main console and hdmi out to bow and stern monitors, yes you loose control to the apex but have all the same information and wouldn’t be surprised if bird came out with linkable controllable monitors to link to apex
I would like to see some linkable monitors.
I own a Solix 15. It is not useful for Waypoints. You can not turn off the DeClutter feature, so your Waypoint Icons are hidden from you. I had to buy a Helix! WTH! To see my icons. The Helix allows you to turn off the DeClutter feature. Given what else is out there now, I would not buy a Solix! Now my question: Can you turn off the DeClutter Waypoint feature on an Apex? (Like you can on a Helix?)
I didn’t even know that was a thing.
What do you mean it's not useful for way points? I have a solix 10 and I don't have any issues.
Solix12 best for me. Thanks
Awesome man!
Would be nice if the hdmi out would let you output your map and then on the apex screen display your 2d/MSI/MDI/etc...you could buy one unit and output the map to a cheap flush mounted flatscreen monitor.
That would be awesome. Save a TON of money!
Forget the second unit, I would have trouble justifying the first one. Ha Ha
John
These things are getting expensive!
Mantap bos.
Not sure what you mean. Can you help me out?
Agreed
Thanks
Are you going to get one of these or are just going to play with it at the store?
@ Clearwater fishing Need a little advice I want the live scope but that’s a little step for me. What can I get with good down and side imagining for around 1000? And should I go with garmin for maybe future live scope or do you thing hummingbirds mega will surpass all? Honestly hummingbird has always managed to do better in my opinion..
@@bofa1330 my advice is the best side imaging and down imaging belongs easily to humminbird. I recommend getting the largest helix mega si plus screen you can afford. I would make sure it is the G4N for the networking. The networking is for the mega live imaging if it is as good as livescope.
@@clearwaterfishing thank you
@@clearwaterfishing it’s all really expensive but maybe the wife will feel sorry for me lol.
@@bofa1330 Save up and get you one later. You will appreciate it more. 😀
This unit is exactly what Humminbird not needed. What they need is to upgrade the helix 7 to g4n and maybe make something that can compete at the hook reaveal pricepoint.
I agree with you. I’m not sure why Humminbird went with a new “top model”. Most fisherman don’t go for a unit that cost $3000+. You can get a lot more sales at the lower price point models and make a ton of money.
This had made more sense if they bumbed the price on the helix a bit, gave it a touch screen and maybe let it replace the solix. Then introduced a new low range model.
@@jeisonhansson If the Helix had a touch screen, I probably would even consider the solix. But the solix has enough features for me to consider it over the helix at a more "reasonable" price point. 10" Helix Mega SI + CHO $1850 where the 10" Solix Mega SI + CHO is $2200.
Ok, so for crappie fishing. The 19 inch Apex to locate brush piles in full 1080p. Then put a solix 10 inch on the bow just for locating the waypoint you marked at the console with the Apex. Next, add a 24’’ Garmin unit dedicated to livescope. That way the crappie look huge. The problem of course comes down to aesthetics...a 19inch at the console would look goofy on a bass boat and so would a 24inch on the bow. Too bad.
@@jayb7675 but do you need 19” to locate brush piles? Would a 12” solix not do the job?
The new apex units will be used a lot for saltwater fishermen where deep water depth is needed.
That was the feeling I had as I was doing research! Are you thinking of getting one?
@@clearwaterfishing I just upgraded to 2 Helix 9’s G4N mega + SI from my old 899 and 998 units. Waiting for mega live hopefully in March. The Apex is too rich for my blood, but I can see it being utilized mostly for saltwater. It only makes sense with the capabilities of the Apex.
@@caseywozniak2861 how are you liking you your new helixes?
@@clearwaterfishing I haven’t had a chance to use them yet. I had them installed in December in my 20211875 Pro-V Lund. Living in the Midwest all our water is hard now. I’ll get to try them out in March when our bass season begins with our cooling lakes opening up. Very excited to see the major differences in these units. I was debating with the helix 10’s but since the 998 and 899 were an 8” and 7” screen the Helix 9’s true 9” screen would will work out great.
@@caseywozniak2861 awesome man! Let me know how you like them when you get out there. I had a helix 7 but sold it to get livescope.
I as a oooldman am somewhat electronically challenged. I would love to get a new humminbird outfit. my boat is an old 1987 Smokercraft center seat deep aluminum. Everything I've read tells me to go with Hbird and like ultrex or ultera . with spot lock and the the, solex or Helix or whatever. I am on a tight budge and not a tournament fisherman. The more i read and watch the more confused I get. when a tournament guy upgrades where do they sell their old stuff? Im a 74 yr old that dont need new stuff just something i can enjoy for a year or two. thankx keith
Most of the big tournament guys just get a new boat every year rigged with whatever they want. Us more normal guys will sell our stuff on Facebooks market place or Craigslist. Maybe even to a buddy that might want it. I would get a couple of helix 9s and an ultrex with ipilot link. The link is important if you want to use your helixes to control to a spot saved on you fish finder
If you're on a budget get a hummingbird helix model. Still really awesome units, more sizes and way cheaper.
2 Apex 13’s at the console and a single NINETEEN at the bow!!!
Dang! That's a lot of money! Where you gonna get that kinda cash?
@@clearwaterfishing only in my dreams!
@@hunterbull7804 Me too man!
@@clearwaterfishing In your opinion which combination would be the best at bow ? 1x19" apex VS 2x12" Solix ? Thanks
Buy apex if you wanna buy the new hummingbird live scope
You don’t need an Apex to run Mega Live Imaging.
bch
What is that?
Just made my mind up hummingbird can keep that junk ..
Pretty expensive stuff. KVD uses Helixes, just to put that into perspective.
@@clearwaterfishing yes it’s really high for less then that think I’m going with live scope 🤷♂️
@@bofa1330Humminbird has the highest khz which means best imaging and distance. Just by statistics, Humminbird is superior if you can afford it.
@@straightwhitemale5753 I went with livescope my friend love it use hummingbird for side imaging.