My mom did actually install Windows 7 back when it first came out in 2010, on our family's custom built PC from 2003, which of course, also ran XP. We also still kept it dual booted with 7 until 2013.
Windows 7 has lost support 3 years ago, but this computer came out 24 years ago. 3 years ago this pc would have been receiving support despite old age.
Yes, SSE2 is simply a special set of processor functions, they are required by almost any software by now (even 10 years ago they were required by majority of software). So even if you can run Windows 7 on Pentium II, you won't be able to install latest Windows updates or run latest version of Firefox because your CPU doesn't support basic functions that modern software require...
Soo many memories of Xp and Vista. My whole youth. Games, music, chats, drawing, anime, mmorpgs, forums... Zero politics, zero payments, zero stress. Just school and my pc.
I find it absolutely hilarious that Microsoft "requires" you to have specific minimum requirements to upgrade. But then with their own software, you can just bypass it and upgrade anyway.
This is Microsoft unlike Apple. I have macbook that I purchased in 2017 and I no longer receives updates. Microsoft still provide updates to potato PC.
@@RamtechENG if they are trying to avoid a slow working system then they should probably avoid supporting $200 netbooks with 32gb eMMC storage and awful 1ghz dual core CPU. There are computers from 15 years ago that would absolutely annihilate one of those. So I’m just not buying into that reasoning. The reason why they have the arbitrary restrictions is because they have deals with manufacturers and want you to buy a new computer.
Awesome video. The fact that you got this far on such an old machine is pretty cool - As an I.T. Administrator/Engineer, with almost 20 years experience, this definitely took me down memory lane. 😀
@@FlyboyHelosim P2/3 best is Win2K or XP, my old desktop Phenom ii x4 running on Win10 still acceptable but Win11 is taking a toll on my 10th gen i5 laptop, in some case it is less smooth than my 12years old AMD Pii 955BE on Win10
This is quite fascinating. I can't believe that you got as far as you did with that ancient computer. I miss those old operating systems. Everything from Windows 3.0 all the way to XP were great. They looked nice and everything was a lot simpler. Despite DOS mode lacking any sort of visuals, taking some time to learn, and just simply being a pain to use, it's also very nostalgic and I miss it too. It sucks how you need DOSBox or a virtual machine to play those classic 80's and 90's games these days. Even many games from the 00's are apparently impossible or near impossible to play on modern Windows OS'
The reason why you're getting an "NTLDR is missing" error message when upgrading from Windows 98 to Windows 2000 is quite simple, Windows 2000 is a version of Windows that Microsoft made after they made Windows NT so it uses the same technology in it's Kernel, Windows 98 is a DOS based Operating System like the other versions of Windows that came before it, Windows 2000 is an NT based Operating System, that's why you needed to do a complete clean install rather than an upgrade.
🤣🤣😁🤭 this is the magic of windows operating system xp, it wad 2005, you finish the sleep and turn on the pc and coming the massage NTLDR is Missing 😁😁 where his go? NTLDR 🤣🤣
It will perform an upgrade install from 98 to 2000 and work properly, but only if you use the full version of the Win2K installer. I did this many times back in the day. Windows 2000 was my primary OS for many years into the era of XP, in fact.
@@philipjansenguarin3284 He's saying that everything works fine, and then when you turn off, go to bed, wake up.. turn on PC, NTLDR is Missing error message happens. Yes this happens randomly. Saw it many times before.
Windows 7 is a perfect operating system and I was using it up until a few months ago, but was forced to switch to Windows 10 because a lot of games these days require at least Windows 10 to run. Windows 10 seems pretty good so far and you can make it look and feel like Windows 7 fairly easily.
I think you can put skins on windows from previous versions such as making windows 10 look like windows xp and someone would think you do have xp so why not trying the same with windows 7 skin?
The problem is not windows os, the problem is about architecture. mostly lib, ide gamw dev shutdowm 32bit so its also hard to dev game that suport 32bit nowaday. So that why majority game req winb10
That was a top spec machine back in the day! I remember booting up my upgraded PC with an AMD K6 400mhz CPU and around 64mb of ram, being blown away how fast it was! 😳
@@nickberardi4168 You were living the dream with your turbo button and a full 33mhz faster than my first ever 33mhz PC 🖥 😲😳 I bet you even had a cd rom drive? 😲😳 From memory I think mine just had a 3.5 inch floppy disk drive and I had to 'upgrade' to a cd rom drive....🤔 Windows 3.1 forever 😁👍
Seeing that screen of "Welcome to the exciting new world of Windows 98" brought back some nice memories. I remember how excited we were when we upgraded our computer from Windows 95 to Windows 98 back when I was a kid. It seemed magical.
It was more magical when I managed to install win 98 on a 95 machine that was running win 3.11 , the scripts on the page was overlapping other scripts on the page, I also had to do it on dial-up from zetzero and it would time out at 3 1/2 hours, I went to bed on the third attempt downloading hoping I would wake up to see it downloaded internet explorer5.5 so I could upgrade, it worked fortunately !
Your absolute best bet to get Windows 11 on this computer from 1998/1999 is to find and install an ISO of Tiny11, which was designed with older and underpowered computers in mind. Also, the nostalgia of hearing the Windows 98 startup sound hit me like a freight train!
I really liked this video! I was surprised that you made it all the way to 7 myself! Really enjoyed taking that trip through all the installers and hearing the music from each version! The Windows 2000 one really took me back.
The system requirement for windows 11 are because they are trying to avoid the backlash they got when they dropped vista and people upgraded on systems that ran significantly better with XP. They know 11 can be a bit heavier and don’t want to be blamed when people force it onto potato’s. I think the back doors were left on purpose.
Generally I agree, Microsoft or any other OS maker do not want endless support because they want to reduce potential backlash, but I think Win11 is a bit different here because I did not find it any heavier to run than Win10. Basically neck and neck. But I guess they had to draw a line somewhere, so there's TPM 2.0. The real irony about it is that the actual component specs that are included in the minimum requirements are rather low, and any PC that actually ran those specs would struggle mightily. This is what Microsoft has on their website: Processor 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or System on a Chip (SoC). RAM 4 gigabyte (GB). Storage 64 GB or larger storage device Note: See below under “More information on storage space to keep Windows 11 up-to-date” for more details. There's more but not that relevant for the topic. I wouldn't want to run Windows 7 on this, let alone Windows 11. So if it was about performance, then they should really bite into it and require way higher specs to assure decent performance. I managed to install Windows 11 on 4th Intel system (a DDR3 platform) and it ran smooth as butter. But that is way better spec than what they are claiming is the minimum. The minimum should stop being "you could turn it on with those specs" but rather "you could actually use this computer with those specs".
@@NoahGooder yeah it totally sucks I agree. It was an unnecessary move. I managed to install a non-legit version of Windows 11 on a 4th gen Intel platform and it worked great, so it is not like the hardware is too slow.
That windows xp music really brings back memories. I was helping my parents upgrade our windows 2000 pc to xp and we were lucky enough to have a sound card that it supported
As someone who has a little knowledge about all these stuff, I appreciate your efforts in this video. People may not notice but videos like these usually take hours and hours of research
@@RamtechENGIt took a week for an expert like you,but for us novices it could literally take months of research and even then we would f*CK up at some point.😂
This is quite fascinating. I can't believe that you got as far as you did with that ancient computer. I miss those old operating systems. Everything from Windows 2000 all the way to windows 7 were great. They looked nice and everything was a lot simpler.And my faviorate version of Windows is windows 7 ultimate
I think some windows development versions had black (or other colors) error screens instead of blue? Mostly to clearly differentiate them from errors with release versions of windows, I guess. But yeah I reasonably predicted what the result would be but was surprised it went as far as it did. I guess Windows maintained backwards compatibility with CPUs pretty far. Still, the process of getting there was interesting.
Great Video ! What is amazing is the boost in computing power from Pentium II till now, and how the OS Windows 11 runs slower and worse than Windows XP on a CPU chip with less than a quarter the processing power of modern CPUs. The Chips got better and the windows got worse and worse.
@@miregoji2959 "bud" obviously meant completely gutting the computer and using its chassis to build a new computer. Assuming this particular PC can actually support modern ATX or ITX components without too much headache, and that its mediocre airflow will not suffocate such a modernized build in the process.
My first PC was an IBM Aptiva with AMD K6 processor. I remember playing Doom and Diablo II. The integrated GPU was a rage 3D but it was terrible. I got a 3DFx Voodoo 2 with 12MB (PCI version) to play Diablo 2 and other games. I just can’t imagine 23 years from now someone will struggle to get latest version Windows to run on a Intel Core i7 13700K computer with 32GB of Ram.
Because that won't be the case... Unless consumer computing takes a fundamentally different route of operation.... Look at hardware from 2010.... It's still capable just about of running today's latest games.... And don't be pedantic about it... It could... That's 12 years... Tech developed exponentially faster through the 90s than it did in the late naughties and 10s.... It has levelled right off massively.... It will continue that way... Unless like i said... We get like quantum computing in some capacity etc etc etc.... An 13700k with 32gb ram will run something 23 years from now.. 100% absolutely gauranteed
@@fletchy88 For sure 100%. My main system I'm using currently is a 2007 Dell Precision M6300 with a Core 2 Duo and Nvidia Quadro FX 1600m. Runs Windows 10 excellently with an SSD upgrade, and I've used it to play countless games (DirectX11 support is still strong in modern games).
Love how you install Win98SE and then regal us by showing you playing Blood, Keen and some Half-Life. By then, 4/10ths of the video run time is over. I can tell by now that this is gonna be one of the great productions on this platform.
I admire your Patience and effort, Few days back I helped a school by installing Windows 7 on their Old Computers (35 computers) Most of them were Pentium 4 , 2.66 ghz with 512 MB It was a nightmare 😂 for 2022, But i got 29 of them up and running, Some had 128 MB Ram and i installed windows XP 😂 on them. Old Slow memories , when SSD wasn't Born. I wish they had the budget to get sata ssd.
There still many older operating system machines out there happily chugging away, interfaced with specialist electronics and machines to do a specific job. They are very reliable, especially from XP onwards. I noticed that my local Coles Supermarket (here in Australia) were using XP as the OS to run the chains automated checkout machines. This is 2023 I am referring to yet it is no surprise, speed is not required only reliability. Inside these machines I expect XP OS is running from a dedicated board.
i was in college when i got my first PC with windows 98SE...the boot up sound gave me goose bumps. I used to explore MS office and had no idea what was the point of Powerpoint. Today my job depends on it, as a faculty. Used to play half-life and midtown madness. I liked XP
I am quite sure this old PC has an Ethernet PXE capable card so you could have tried booting on PXE and start directly with Windows 11 via a WDS or other PXE server. I made a video showing how to install from WDS. It is for windows 11 to install on 14 years old PC but this was avalable in the 90s too.
The computer lacks any sse2 and NX bit instructions, the installation will fail because it is a dependency on modern versions of windows, the only reason why you managed to install windows 11 normally by network is because the core 2 supports NX instructions, while this older computer cannot, the maximum you can install is theoretically Windows 8 with the NX bypass, assuming you are able to deal with the other hurdles of setting it up, as Windows 10 depends and actively uses the NX bit, so it’s not something like a “check if present” sort of thing that was present on 8. Budget-Builds tried installing windows 10 on a early generation Pentium 4 that used socket 478, but the lack of the NX bit, and how Windows 10 uses the NX bit, resulted in it failing to install or boot and hard drive swaps simply resulted in a black screen with graphical artifacts. Just throwing that out there before some other person gets this idea to install it on anything before the later gen pentium 4s.
The windows 98, ME, and XP gave me so many memories of using my grandfather's computer and helping him build a couple. Up until 2021, I was using the same motherboard and CPU he gave me back in 2013, an AMD FX-8300 in a Gigabyte GA-78LMT.
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That's a cool thing to test on older hardware, even it was obvious that newer versions of Windows could not be installed, as Windows 11 for example requires 64 bit and Pentium 2 does not support!
Great video! My fond memories are with Windows 98. My cousins ran Windows 95 and ranted on how fast it was but screw that! Besides I had 16MB of ram, why should I settle for less than I deserve 😂
Hello, thank you for this interesting video. I've been working with computers and all versions of Windows since the mid-90s. Kudos to your patience in making this impossible installation possible. Many greetings from Germany
I knew this was doomed before it started, but it was definitely a fun video regardless. I liked the HP Vectra in the day and in fact I also have a functional HP Vectra VLi8 system but it's the minitower version. I can't remember if I installed Windows 7 on it in the past as well or not. You mentioned trying it on a Pentium 4, it's too bad you can't get your hands on one of the last Vectras made, the Vectra VL420 I believe it was, I think it came with a Pentium 4 1.8GHz processor but I'm not sure if it could be upgraded or not.
I tried installing Windows Developer Preview (with success) on an Athlon II. However, the succeeding version (Technology Preview?) refused to install because the CPU was missing either an instruction set or a memory protection feature.
LOL. That's a lot of nostalgia indeed. I think I kind of understand that issue with the NTLDR, which is a bootloader of NT systems and not 9x systems. NT systems where in fact very different from the 9x versions. Win 2000 was an NT system. In fact all modern Windows versions kind of derive from NT in a certain way. At home I still have a very old Pentium III laptop laying around. I have installed the Linux distribution Slackware version 14.2 on it for fun. Unsolvable issues came with webbrowsers like chrome and firefox. Firefox stopped working after updating them to a newer version. Why? Yeah because of that same SSE 2 CPU instruction issue. :)
There is a utility, I believe it was called Plop. It's a bootable CD that allows you to boot USB from it. It can be useful for old machines that don't support USB booting.
Love XP. Crazy how I remember those Win 98 sounds. I find Win 10 needlessly complicated, def not friendly for those learning a computer for the first time.
I started on Win 3.11 on a x286 20MHz PC :D It's amazing how so long ago it feels yet so familiar, I could use it right now without a problem. That just shows how powerfull a concept is, it ages well.
It's possible to install Windows 8 on this PC. First, install Windows 7. Second, install Windows 8 using WINNTSETUP Then patch it using SteinRock's video
Hey, your videos are so exciting! In you video about xp on modern pc you told about ahci driver by Fernando, but I couldn’t find the driver version for my controller, could you make advanced instructions? It would be really awesome!
what if you try to "install" win8 dev preview by unpacking the image with ImageX? But my guess is Win8 Dev Preview needs SSE instructions, i installed it on Athlon 1700+ (only SSE1 instructions) 10 years ago and it worked
Windows Vista i could see been tested on very high end pentium ll systems at the time. Because those would have been still in service running windows 98 or windows XP, but very near to end of life. I think when windows 7 may have been the very last OS to support the older stuff, but microsoft removed it, so you had to alter the reg. I think they changed the rules of the game, when windows 8 was written, basically started a fresh with that one, where windows 7 is still sort of based on the windows 2000/ xp platform
I tend to only replace a PC when it outlives it's usefulness. For that reason I skipped Pentium 2 altogether - went from Pentium 233 MMX to P3 1Ghz - difference was huge. Same happened with skipping P4. I worked on a few P2 machines and was never that impressed with them. Pentium 4 was a disaster. The main problem with my route was I always seemed to land on the dud OS, the P3 shipped with Windows ME, the Core 2 came with Vista.
Yeah he should have just gone to windows XP, but then again, this is the sort of thing companies will have done in the past, switching windows 98 to windows 2000
If I’m not mistaken there is a couple of registry keys that can bypass the requirements. You could install windows 11 like that. Edit: I think it was a Windows 98-11 dualboot video.
So much nostalgia in this video. Win98, playing first time HL in the late 90's which was mindblowing at that time, awesome game. Forgot the startup music of win2000 but felt like coming home hearing it in your video (arguably win2000 and win7 some of the best win OS's ever in the last 3 decades). Thank you!
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The fact that you could get it to install windows 7 is still remarkable.
thats so cool i still use my WIndows 7 PC from 2007 motherboard with qx9650 cpu and play 4k video no problem
My mom did actually install Windows 7 back when it first came out in 2010, on our family's custom built PC from 2003, which of course, also ran XP. We also still kept it dual booted with 7 until 2013.
The last good OS from Microsoft. You shouldn't need to upgrade beyond it anyway!
Windows 7 has lost support 3 years ago, but this computer came out 24 years ago. 3 years ago this pc would have been receiving support despite old age.
@@NewsBroadcasting Updated it to 10 if anything goes wrong.
I'm impressed you even got to Windows 7. Especially considering Windows 7 was got updates until the start of 2020.
Actually, Microsoft stopped supporting Windows 7 on devices without SSE2 in 2018.
@@andypaunov8109 what is SSE2 plz ?
@@fuyoutubeck cpu instructions to work
@@fuyoutubeck it's a CPU instruction set. I think the first CPU to get it was Pentium 4 early 2000s..
Yes, SSE2 is simply a special set of processor functions, they are required by almost any software by now (even 10 years ago they were required by majority of software). So even if you can run Windows 7 on Pentium II, you won't be able to install latest Windows updates or run latest version of Firefox because your CPU doesn't support basic functions that modern software require...
Soo many memories of Xp and Vista. My whole youth. Games, music, chats, drawing, anime, mmorpgs, forums... Zero politics, zero payments, zero stress. Just school and my pc.
Ah the days before and after 9/11 happened my first week of high school. Still seems like it was yesterday.
xp was the best i used it right up until i got my windows 8 laptop which was about 6 years ago i wont go to windows 11 or 10 they are both rubbish
nostalgia feels bro, literally every single thing from what you summed up is a trigger to a neural pathway of memories 😁
i never had such bad luck to use vista ;D
Zero payments? Are you.....from Earth-64?
THAT WINDOWS 98 AND VISTA STARTING SOUND TOOK ME TO MY CHILDHOOD FOR SOME SECONDS🥹❣️
Thank you for including all the startup sounds and music. Haven't heard those in many years.
Hearing that windows 98 Start Theme gave me goosebumps! Such fond memories.
I made it my Win 11 startup theme for the memories
Same here
You can hear it some time twice a week
x2 it bring me back to '90s
I find it absolutely hilarious that Microsoft "requires" you to have specific minimum requirements to upgrade. But then with their own software, you can just bypass it and upgrade anyway.
This is Microsoft unlike Apple. I have macbook that I purchased in 2017 and I no longer receives updates. Microsoft still provide updates to potato PC.
Modern operating systems requires more Ram/cpu frequency/storage device speed. Microsoft is trying to avoid users from slow working system
@@Paras_Aryan Puedes instalar Ventura sin problemas, solo que con bypass xdd
Could be microsoft have updates planned which will require the specs they have outlined.
@@RamtechENG if they are trying to avoid a slow working system then they should probably avoid supporting $200 netbooks with 32gb eMMC storage and awful 1ghz dual core CPU. There are computers from 15 years ago that would absolutely annihilate one of those. So I’m just not buying into that reasoning. The reason why they have the arbitrary restrictions is because they have deals with manufacturers and want you to buy a new computer.
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What a great video hahaha it made me very curious but they recommend looking for a Windows 11 key to solve certain problems that are present
bro that will depend on the problems your PC has but I think it can help you and in BNH Software you can search
Awesome video. The fact that you got this far on such an old machine is pretty cool - As an I.T. Administrator/Engineer, with almost 20 years experience, this definitely took me down memory lane. 😀
This man sat and endured 2 decades of Windows installations.
And all of us right along with him too (ok with a bit of time-lapse).
😅
There are no 32 bit versions of Windows 11 so that was always completely impossible
If only we could make our own 32 bit version of Windows 11😢
@@ValkyrieMC Why? It's garbage.
I have 32 bit windows 11
@@imjustfoxy Definitely a modified Windows 10
@@FlyboyHelosim P2/3 best is Win2K or XP, my old desktop Phenom ii x4 running on Win10 still acceptable but Win11 is taking a toll on my 10th gen i5 laptop, in some case it is less smooth than my 12years old AMD Pii 955BE on Win10
Omg that win 98 boot music just hit me in nostalgic areas I forgot ever existed!
Big appreciation for your patience and letting the scenes play out
This is quite fascinating. I can't believe that you got as far as you did with that ancient computer. I miss those old operating systems. Everything from Windows 3.0 all the way to XP were great. They looked nice and everything was a lot simpler. Despite DOS mode lacking any sort of visuals, taking some time to learn, and just simply being a pain to use, it's also very nostalgic and I miss it too. It sucks how you need DOSBox or a virtual machine to play those classic 80's and 90's games these days. Even many games from the 00's are apparently impossible or near impossible to play on modern Windows OS'
The reason why you're getting an "NTLDR is missing" error message when upgrading from Windows 98 to Windows 2000 is quite simple, Windows 2000 is a version of Windows that Microsoft made after they made Windows NT so it uses the same technology in it's Kernel, Windows 98 is a DOS based Operating System like the other versions of Windows that came before it, Windows 2000 is an NT based Operating System, that's why you needed to do a complete clean install rather than an upgrade.
🤣🤣😁🤭 this is the magic of windows operating system xp, it wad 2005, you finish the sleep and turn on the pc and coming the massage NTLDR is Missing 😁😁 where his go? NTLDR 🤣🤣
@@adhasoytan613 ????
@@philipjansenguarin3284This is like of magic when coming the NTLDR is Missing every body don't know..
It will perform an upgrade install from 98 to 2000 and work properly, but only if you use the full version of the Win2K installer. I did this many times back in the day. Windows 2000 was my primary OS for many years into the era of XP, in fact.
@@philipjansenguarin3284 He's saying that everything works fine, and then when you turn off, go to bed, wake up.. turn on PC, NTLDR is Missing error message happens. Yes this happens randomly. Saw it many times before.
Windows 7 is a perfect operating system and I was using it up until a few months ago, but was forced to switch to Windows 10 because a lot of games these days require at least Windows 10 to run. Windows 10 seems pretty good so far and you can make it look and feel like Windows 7 fairly easily.
I think you can put skins on windows from previous versions such as making windows 10 look like windows xp and someone would think you do have xp so why not trying the same with windows 7 skin?
The problem is not windows os, the problem is about architecture. mostly lib, ide gamw dev shutdowm 32bit so its also hard to dev game that suport 32bit nowaday. So that why majority game req winb10
Use Classic Shell to have a Win 7 Start Menu/Theme if you need.
Windows 7 is a security risk anyways. They stopped patching it.
I ran it since February 2011 till May 2020 when my onboard graphics died... now am running windows 10
That was a top spec machine back in the day!
I remember booting up my upgraded PC with an AMD K6 400mhz CPU and around 64mb of ram, being blown away how fast it was! 😳
I had a duron chip I used till 2006 then built a dual core 850 pentium
@@ivananderson5041 Yes, I had a couple of PCs with the duron CPU, they were to the Athlon CPU, what the 'celeron' was to the Pentium.
I had a k62 500mhz and I loved that machine. Sadly I no longer have it but many other computers I have kept.
My first PC had a Pentium 67mhz and had a turbo button to boost it to 133mhz. Was almost 2,000 at that time. Seems like forever ago
@@nickberardi4168 You were living the dream with your turbo button and a full 33mhz faster than my first ever 33mhz PC 🖥 😲😳
I bet you even had a cd rom drive? 😲😳
From memory I think mine just had a 3.5 inch floppy disk drive and I had to 'upgrade' to a cd rom drive....🤔
Windows 3.1 forever 😁👍
Seeing that screen of "Welcome to the exciting new world of Windows 98" brought back some nice memories. I remember how excited we were when we upgraded our computer from Windows 95 to Windows 98 back when I was a kid. It seemed magical.
It was more magical when I managed to install win 98 on a 95 machine that was running win 3.11 , the scripts on the page was overlapping other scripts on the page, I also had to do it on dial-up from zetzero and it would time out at 3 1/2 hours, I went to bed on the third attempt downloading hoping I would wake up to see it downloaded internet explorer5.5 so I could upgrade, it worked fortunately !
I remember too. First time I went on Windows 98 was at my dad's office PC...
Your absolute best bet to get Windows 11 on this computer from 1998/1999 is to find and install an ISO of Tiny11, which was designed with older and underpowered computers in mind. Also, the nostalgia of hearing the Windows 98 startup sound hit me like a freight train!
Same for W2k and XP - I installed those OSs on so many machines when I worked in a school - happy days!
CPU can't. Instructions are not present in the CPU.
If it cant run Windows 10 It cant run 11. Also new instruction in 24h2
I really liked this video! I was surprised that you made it all the way to 7 myself! Really enjoyed taking that trip through all the installers and hearing the music from each version! The Windows 2000 one really took me back.
So many memories with that sound..nice vibe
The system requirement for windows 11 are because they are trying to avoid the backlash they got when they dropped vista and people upgraded on systems that ran significantly better with XP. They know 11 can be a bit heavier and don’t want to be blamed when people force it onto potato’s. I think the back doors were left on purpose.
Generally I agree, Microsoft or any other OS maker do not want endless support because they want to reduce potential backlash, but I think Win11 is a bit different here because I did not find it any heavier to run than Win10. Basically neck and neck.
But I guess they had to draw a line somewhere, so there's TPM 2.0.
The real irony about it is that the actual component specs that are included in the minimum requirements are rather low, and any PC that actually ran those specs would struggle mightily.
This is what Microsoft has on their website:
Processor 1 gigahertz (GHz) or faster with 2 or more cores on a compatible 64-bit processor or System on a Chip (SoC).
RAM 4 gigabyte (GB).
Storage 64 GB or larger storage device Note: See below under “More information on storage space to keep Windows 11 up-to-date” for more details.
There's more but not that relevant for the topic.
I wouldn't want to run Windows 7 on this, let alone Windows 11. So if it was about performance, then they should really bite into it and require way higher specs to assure decent performance. I managed to install Windows 11 on 4th Intel system (a DDR3 platform) and it ran smooth as butter. But that is way better spec than what they are claiming is the minimum. The minimum should stop being "you could turn it on with those specs" but rather "you could actually use this computer with those specs".
@@Mikri90 the whole TPM thing is what made it impossible for me to upgrade.
@@NoahGooder yeah it totally sucks I agree.
It was an unnecessary move. I managed to install a non-legit version of Windows 11 on a 4th gen Intel platform and it worked great, so it is not like the hardware is too slow.
@@Mikri90 I kind of want to upgrade to 11 but I also dont want to loose anything.
They learned from Apple's forced obsolescence paradigm.
That windows xp music really brings back memories. I was helping my parents upgrade our windows 2000 pc to xp and we were lucky enough to have a sound card that it supported
ahh, I still remember times when the logo was beautifully colored and the sounds were so smooth, I almost never upgraded to Windows 8 and 10!
As someone who has a little knowledge about all these stuff, I appreciate your efforts in this video. People may not notice but videos like these usually take hours and hours of research
It takes 1 week :)
@@RamtechENG frrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?
@@RamtechENGIt took a week for an expert like you,but for us novices it could literally take months of research and even then we would f*CK up at some point.😂
What is your favorite operating system?
My favourite operating system its: Windows 9x and Windows XP, 7, 8.1, Windows 11. I'm your fan. Please give heart(((
Я конечно русский мои любимые os от Microsoft Windows 7,windows Xp,windows 10,windows 11 .
My favourite operating system its: MS-DOS, PC-DOS, Windows 10, Windows 11, Windows 7, Windows Vista, Windows XP
Hello, while my favorite operating system its Windows 10 home
Мои любимые операционные системы от Microsoft: Windows XP, Windows 7 и Windows 10
This is quite fascinating. I can't believe that you got as far as you did with that ancient computer. I miss those old operating systems. Everything from Windows 2000 all the way to windows 7 were great. They looked nice and everything was a lot simpler.And my faviorate version of Windows is windows 7 ultimate
Imagine having 40GB of hard drive memory in 1998. This was supreme for it's time.
Dude!! All the music and sounds bring back so many memories. I just smiled the entire time. Thank you
The refresh rate... that is how I lost my eye sight back in 90th
I see you're a Mike Tyson fan ;) I love the '90th!
That Windows Vista startup sound brings back my childhood memories
I think some windows development versions had black (or other colors) error screens instead of blue? Mostly to clearly differentiate them from errors with release versions of windows, I guess.
But yeah I reasonably predicted what the result would be but was surprised it went as far as it did. I guess Windows maintained backwards compatibility with CPUs pretty far. Still, the process of getting there was interesting.
And the current versions has a green BSOD screen.
6:40 RIP composer Stan Le Pard
Great Video ! What is amazing is the boost in computing power from Pentium II till now, and how the OS Windows 11 runs slower and worse than Windows XP on a CPU chip with less than a quarter the processing power of modern CPUs. The Chips got better and the windows got worse and worse.
this video deserves to have a million views and your channel should have 100k subscribers!
Thank you
No but you can turn this into a sleeper. That way, Windows 11 will run without any issue.
Windows 11 doesn’t have 32 bit builds bud
@@miregoji2959 "bud" obviously meant completely gutting the computer and using its chassis to build a new computer. Assuming this particular PC can actually support modern ATX or ITX components without too much headache, and that its mediocre airflow will not suffocate such a modernized build in the process.
@@miregoji2959 Did you even read what his comment said?
My first PC was an IBM Aptiva with AMD K6 processor. I remember playing Doom and Diablo II. The integrated GPU was a rage 3D but it was terrible. I got a 3DFx Voodoo 2 with 12MB (PCI version) to play Diablo 2 and other games.
I just can’t imagine 23 years from now someone will struggle to get latest version Windows to run on a Intel Core i7 13700K computer with 32GB of Ram.
imagine the same scenerio with a mac!
Because that won't be the case... Unless consumer computing takes a fundamentally different route of operation.... Look at hardware from 2010.... It's still capable just about of running today's latest games.... And don't be pedantic about it... It could... That's 12 years... Tech developed exponentially faster through the 90s than it did in the late naughties and 10s.... It has levelled right off massively.... It will continue that way... Unless like i said... We get like quantum computing in some capacity etc etc etc.... An 13700k with 32gb ram will run something 23 years from now.. 100% absolutely gauranteed
@@fletchy88 For sure 100%. My main system I'm using currently is a 2007 Dell Precision M6300 with a Core 2 Duo and Nvidia Quadro FX 1600m. Runs Windows 10 excellently with an SSD upgrade, and I've used it to play countless games (DirectX11 support is still strong in modern games).
I have INTEL Core i7 8700 non K and 16 GB of ram, I could install Windows 11 if I wanted to 😂
@@fra93ilgrande Hopefully you don't want to haha
The fact that this old computer has more storage than my first laptop blows me away
So many Golden memories were refreshed today ! Thanks man !
The fact that I have done these upgrades myself till windows 7.
From school to college.
It makes me feel so old
Love how you install Win98SE and then regal us by showing you playing Blood, Keen and some Half-Life. By then, 4/10ths of the video run time is over. I can tell by now that this is gonna be one of the great productions on this platform.
blood and keen the best dos games back in the day actually forgot doom and wolf 3d and duke nukem 3d :D
2:05 The all people childhood sound.
I admire your Patience and effort,
Few days back I helped a school by installing Windows 7 on their Old Computers (35 computers)
Most of them were
Pentium 4 , 2.66 ghz with 512 MB
It was a nightmare 😂 for 2022,
But i got 29 of them up and running,
Some had 128 MB Ram and i installed windows XP 😂 on them.
Old Slow memories , when SSD wasn't Born.
I wish they had the budget to get sata ssd.
Why not installed some linux instead ?
why school still uses old and outdated pc, lol hoax 🤡🤡
How is that school using such outdated computers, must be pretty broke
@@florianz8257 Linux users forcing normal people to use their bulky and complex ass operating system
@@Rizzaural Ahahah you're right installing Windows 11 on Pentium II is faaaar more easy than install ubuntu !
Excellent, keep going
There still many older operating system machines out there happily chugging away, interfaced with specialist electronics and machines to do a specific job. They are very reliable, especially from XP onwards. I noticed that my local Coles Supermarket (here in Australia) were using XP as the OS to run the chains automated checkout machines. This is 2023 I am referring to yet it is no surprise, speed is not required only reliability. Inside these machines I expect XP OS is running from a dedicated board.
i was in college when i got my first PC with windows 98SE...the boot up sound gave me goose bumps. I used to explore MS office and had no idea what was the point of Powerpoint. Today my job depends on it, as a faculty. Used to play half-life and midtown madness. I liked XP
Ohhh midtown madness, that and soldier of fortune where some real damn games!
The blood game you played there took me bank to my childhood memories. Thanks.
haha yes. For a time back in the 90's, every time I'd get out of bed in the morning I'd rasp..." I Live! AGAIN!" ...people thought I was strange.
I am quite sure this old PC has an Ethernet PXE capable card so you could have tried booting on PXE and start directly with Windows 11 via a WDS or other PXE server.
I made a video showing how to install from WDS. It is for windows 11 to install on 14 years old PC but this was avalable in the 90s too.
You can boot from USB on devices that don't have any BIOS support for it with Plop Boot Manager as well, which you can even run from a floppy disk.
The computer lacks any sse2 and NX bit instructions, the installation will fail because it is a dependency on modern versions of windows, the only reason why you managed to install windows 11 normally by network is because the core 2 supports NX instructions, while this older computer cannot, the maximum you can install is theoretically Windows 8 with the NX bypass, assuming you are able to deal with the other hurdles of setting it up, as Windows 10 depends and actively uses the NX bit, so it’s not something like a “check if present” sort of thing that was present on 8.
Budget-Builds tried installing windows 10 on a early generation Pentium 4 that used socket 478, but the lack of the NX bit, and how Windows 10 uses the NX bit, resulted in it failing to install or boot and hard drive swaps simply resulted in a black screen with graphical artifacts.
Just throwing that out there before some other person gets this idea to install it on anything before the later gen pentium 4s.
Well done dude. I throughly enjoyed the video, many nostalgic sounds have ti say.
The windows 98, ME, and XP gave me so many memories of using my grandfather's computer and helping him build a couple. Up until 2021, I was using the same motherboard and CPU he gave me back in 2013, an AMD FX-8300 in a Gigabyte GA-78LMT.
That's a cool thing to test on older hardware, even it was obvious that newer versions of Windows could not be installed, as Windows 11 for example requires 64 bit and Pentium 2 does not support!
Great video! My fond memories are with Windows 98. My cousins ran Windows 95 and ranted on how fast it was but screw that! Besides I had 16MB of ram, why should I settle for less than I deserve 😂
Jesus!
Man, you got pretty far! Was wondering when core instructions or lack of RAM etc., would finally catch up.
Hello, thank you for this interesting video. I've been working with computers and all versions of Windows since the mid-90s. Kudos to your patience in making this impossible installation possible. Many greetings from Germany
Thank you
This was really fun haha. I remember installing Windows 95 on my 386... took all day!!
I knew this was doomed before it started, but it was definitely a fun video regardless. I liked the HP Vectra in the day and in fact I also have a functional HP Vectra VLi8 system but it's the minitower version. I can't remember if I installed Windows 7 on it in the past as well or not. You mentioned trying it on a Pentium 4, it's too bad you can't get your hands on one of the last Vectras made, the Vectra VL420 I believe it was, I think it came with a Pentium 4 1.8GHz processor but I'm not sure if it could be upgraded or not.
Windows 11 is 64-bit only, and (correct me if I'm wrong) x64 wasn't available until the AMD Athlon x64 and the Opteron (K8) CPUs.
My first thought. No 32 bit support for 11.
I tried installing Windows Developer Preview (with success) on an Athlon II. However, the succeeding version (Technology Preview?) refused to install because the CPU was missing either an instruction set or a memory protection feature.
LOL. That's a lot of nostalgia indeed. I think I kind of understand that issue with the NTLDR, which is a bootloader of NT systems and not 9x systems.
NT systems where in fact very different from the 9x versions. Win 2000 was an NT system. In fact all modern Windows versions kind of derive from NT in a certain way.
At home I still have a very old Pentium III laptop laying around.
I have installed the Linux distribution Slackware version 14.2 on it for fun. Unsolvable issues came with webbrowsers like chrome and firefox.
Firefox stopped working after updating them to a newer version. Why? Yeah because of that same SSE 2 CPU instruction issue. :)
2:09 Love to hear that sound again. I started from windows 98 in 2001. Thank you.
Windows 98 intro sounds so futuristic, they will still feel nostalgic in next 100 years
There is a utility, I believe it was called Plop. It's a bootable CD that allows you to boot USB from it. It can be useful for old machines that don't support USB booting.
Love XP. Crazy how I remember those Win 98 sounds. I find Win 10 needlessly complicated, def not friendly for those learning a computer for the first time.
Nostalgic sound of Windows 98 Startup screen
Beautiful old days, I still love xp style icons, startup sounds and that network activity icon
thank you so much for making this video❤
I started on Win 3.11 on a x286 20MHz PC :D It's amazing how so long ago it feels yet so familiar, I could use it right now without a problem. That just shows how powerfull a concept is, it ages well.
Yes the days of using DOS then going "I think I'll now use Windows for a bit"..... C:> WIN haha
yep windows 3.1 and a 286 good old days
Same Here. But 25mhz. Only 8mb RAM and a Lot of bootdisks with config.sys and autoexec.bat for many Games.
I don't think Windows 3.11 ran on 286 CPUs, while Windows 3.0 did (albeit barely). Windows 3.11 certainly ran on 386 CPUs.
It's possible to install Windows 8 on this PC.
First, install Windows 7.
Second, install Windows 8 using WINNTSETUP
Then patch it using SteinRock's video
Hey, your videos are so exciting!
In you video about xp on modern pc you told about ahci driver by Fernando, but I couldn’t find the driver version for my controller, could you make advanced instructions? It would be really awesome!
I don’t think I shall tell the whole story you here, it’s really complicated. Shortly, this account used to be owned by my relative.
This was very interesting, love it! Keep it up
The part where you let the Windows 98 startup intro undisturbed ❤ amazing
Kudos!!! This is simply referred to as "Pushing the limits of your hardware" I enjoyed every bit of it😉
2:13 my childhood
just feel the music of windows 98 😍
It's still impressing how you managed to get to windows 7. phew. that was an adventures!
what if you try to "install" win8 dev preview by unpacking the image with ImageX? But my guess is Win8 Dev Preview needs SSE instructions, i installed it on Athlon 1700+ (only SSE1 instructions) 10 years ago and it worked
Windows Vista i could see been tested on very high end pentium ll systems at the time. Because those would have been still in service running windows 98 or windows XP, but very near to end of life. I think when windows 7 may have been the very last OS to support the older stuff, but microsoft removed it, so you had to alter the reg. I think they changed the rules of the game, when windows 8 was written, basically started a fresh with that one, where windows 7 is still sort of based on the windows 2000/ xp platform
As I’m continuing to watch this, I’d crack up so hard if it would work. I’m actually surprised it let you go to 7 lol
Mate, you've got a lot of patience, lol. A great video 😀👍Windows 7, 10 and Linux Mint
I watch you from the Russian channel and I want to say that your content is very cool and you can learn a lot of things
XP and Win7 tied for 1st in my book. XP gets an extra point for nostalgia.
This guy setup the benchmark for "Never Give up"
New OS on *old* hardware = very slow unpleasant experience (or impossible).
Old OS (DOS) on *new* hardware = very fast, but limited, experience.
so, lets try next booting xp on a threadripper 😝
Loved this video!
You paid so much effort in your videoes
Hands off to you man you are great
Glad you noticed that, thank you
2:44 my man was too excited and got himself half life
I tend to only replace a PC when it outlives it's usefulness. For that reason I skipped Pentium 2 altogether - went from Pentium 233 MMX to P3 1Ghz - difference was huge. Same happened with skipping P4. I worked on a few P2 machines and was never that impressed with them. Pentium 4 was a disaster. The main problem with my route was I always seemed to land on the dud OS, the P3 shipped with Windows ME, the Core 2 came with Vista.
Same. Skipped P2. Windows ME was sucks tho. Fortunately received my PIII with windows 2000 out of the box already.
5:50 Windows 2000 was based in WinNT4 not Windows 98 hence that error on upgrade
Yeah he should have just gone to windows XP, but then again, this is the sort of thing companies will have done in the past, switching windows 98 to windows 2000
Oh man you are the best!!...what a patience!!!with such more pasion!..
Thank you bring to us old memories , it was good days ,,
2:06 to 2:12 pure nostalgic ❤❤
6:33 brings so much memories
If I’m not mistaken there is a couple of registry keys that can bypass the requirements. You could install windows 11 like that.
Edit: I think it was a Windows 98-11 dualboot video.
That was done on a 64 bit machine.
Windows 11 is only compiled in ARM64 and x86-64 versions now. No way to run it on 32-bit hardware.
Funny and nostalgic, thanks to you 👌🔥
So many fond memories. I remember playing Blood as well on my old Pentium too!
So much nostalgia in this video. Win98, playing first time HL in the late 90's which was mindblowing at that time, awesome game. Forgot the startup music of win2000 but felt like coming home hearing it in your video (arguably win2000 and win7 some of the best win OS's ever in the last 3 decades). Thank you!
ты хорошо разговариваешь на английском. Акцента нет и слова понятны. Молодец!
😀
4:21 we need HL3 😭
Thank you for trying the drive swap!
@ 2:05 that was my favorite Windows startup sound