These games were unplayable…UNTIL NOW - PCem
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An entire generation of games are unplayable unless you kept your old PCs. Isn’t there some emulator we can use to bring the early days of 3D graphics back to life? There is! It’s called PCem.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Intro
0:55 Why bother emulating a PC??
1:34 Exploring the emulated PC and networking
5:06 So what can PCem do?
7:11 Time to play some DirectX 3 Road Rash!
9:39 Let's try 3D-accelerated MechWarrior 3
11:36 Reviving a dead genre
12:51 Some alternatives to PCem
13:48 Compatibility isn't as easy as you think
16:00 PCem's biggest advantage
17:34 It's not perfect and sometimes it's overkill
21:46 Conclusion
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Greetings - 86Box team here! (see edit)
Many thanks for the mention - we wanted to give you a quick update on serial passthrough support, which is currently in its very early stages. As of right now, any data can be output from any machine, but inputting data is still a work in progress as the data being input to machines running any DOS-based operating systems is not being received correctly. But yes, it is definitely in the plans and will keep improving as the year continues.
UPDATE - We would also like to mention that you CAN mount any folder on your PC as a read-only CD-ROM drive inside 86Box using the VISO (virtual ISO) feature. The only major caveat is that it is read-only, but any file can be accessed and copied to the 86Box machine's hard drive without any issue.
Awesome to hear!
Very nice! I can't wait!
Based, convenience is a virtue
Thank you for your efforts 🫶 any timeline on that keyboard controller fix? It's been driving me mad not being able to finish a 3D game 😅
Sorry for the english it's not my first language
Do you thinks when the serial passthrough will be done 86box will be habel to emulate a cpu at 100mhz or less and sending an recive data with a serial port. It's for a software (PL7-2). This software is used to comunicate with a plc (TSX17) that came out in 1988 and a computer after 1995 is offen to fast
I tried PCem around 4 years ago, but wasn't aware of the strides it had made. Great vid Anthony!
Anthony is the embodiment of our collective nostalgia of all those old games, together with our indestructible resillience to MAKE IT WORK. Really appreciate all you are doing, Anthony!
Yeah, Anthony is the only reason I am subbed to Short Circuit, he's not on LTT anywhere near enough.
And we support her fully
Funny enough this is one of the reason I stopped gaming on PC. Though getting your game to work exactly how you wanted was such a rush.
@@CouldBeMathijs"it"
@@eletricretard3987 them?
It's not just about being able to run certain programs, I think just being able to have the entire old school PC experience is amazing, like going back in time. A few days ago I spent a night just sitting around playing solitaire in Windows 2000, while listening to Winamp, it was like a slice of 1999 and it tasted great!
Imagine being able to finally replace the dying out W98 computers at work with modern computers emulating W98
@@LutraLovegood Not only replacing, but surpassing. It's so much easier to maintain modern hardware than hardware from the 90's, and much easier to manage virtual install of Windows 98 and keep it secure, than a real install on bare metal.
@@Michael-Archonaeus Thats kind of wrong since they still build legacy machines and parts.
@@LutraLovegood Thats kind of wrong since they still build legacy machines and parts.
@@Wolfstanus That's expensive and too much work, and it is extremely insecure to run outdated operating systems on bare metal.
This is insane. Having to poke around with Virtualbox to get Windows 98 working and not even very well...and this exists! Man, it's a good time to be a retro tech enthusiast.
fr getting old games to work on anything past windows XP, is a chore.
Virtualbox dropped support for Windows 98 many years ago. Ask me how I know :(
EDIT: I might have been operating with outdated/incorrect information. It seems Windows 9x has issues in VBox on Ryzen hosts, which is what my machine is.
What problems did you have with VirtualBox? I have played a lot of games in virtual machines with no issues...
And you can't get 3d acceleration with dosbox / VMWare / VirtualBox... Right? So this is awesome!
Why does everyone allow Anthony to just slowly kill himself for years and years?
Anthony is seriously one of my favorites at LTT! Hopefully he knows how much we all appreciate him!!
yep more Anthony! extensive knowledge and experience which comes across.
@@Geeba Knowledge and experience. What a niche the mainstream media has left wide open.
69th like
Anthony is like you have a fancy ring and need to volcano that ***** but you're only a hobbit and Anthony is a wizard
@@ivanzhao8742 tbh if its been like that for years(his weight is quite stable too) then he probably never had a problem with it. Dude is already unstoppable.
The GLIDE API was ahead of it's time, I mean Unreal was absolutely phenomenal. I remember being astounded just walking around on the first level, the water and the leaves even the sound was great.
Just before that time, I wondered why on earth anyone would want sound on a PC. I assumed they would be for communications (mail/writing etc) only.
@@RogerThat1945 I thought the same thing; then we got an Adlib sound card. Still remember the level we first tried it on: Doom E2M2. The fact I still remember that tells you how much effect it had on me as a kid.
Been watching you off and on for many years. I love that your staff feels comfortable enough to even correct or you counter correct on recording. Shows leadership; plus you guys seem to jive good.
They are basically friends
I'll never forget being in a Cisco certification class in college in January of 2000 and just struggling. I stayed after to talk to the professor and explained I just wasn't getting it and maybe computers aren't the thing for me. He said, "You're one of my best students and you're doing fine. You're being too hard on yourself." I then explained every time I try to do something at home lab (I had an Cisco switch and some other stuff set up to study) I can never get it to work. He laughed and said, "None of us can. This stuff is a $hit show. Windows is impossible to network and Cisco ...? It's not you. It's the technology. These protocols? The hardware? All the underlying programming? They're all new to the world. Nobody in this field really knows what they're doing because what we're doing has never been done before. We're trying to build a global, instant, data network. The hardware and software for doing it are all still relatively new inventions and they're going to be fritzy (his word for janky) for a long time."
That was 2000. He is still right 23 years later.
In 2000 TCP was 31 years old and well understood as a protocol.
The performance dynamics of the protocol were not well understood, which is why we still have new techniques like BBR, but TCP literally hasn’t changed for 52 years at this point.
@@DiggOlive yet 10 years earlier you had to add the TCP/ip stack to windows... It may have been around, but windows was not a robust networking OS, and lots of older hardware was out there.
Trying to expect perfection in a world where there was none is what I feel he was getting at. The days when you would refresh "network neighborhood" and computers would drop off or folders would randomly disappear.
Top 10 things that never happened
It's all too accurate.
sounds like a good professor. Cheers to him.
The fact that this Frankenstein's monster of an operating system can go online is a technological marvel. Love how Anthony was delighted to see Linus surprised by how much that setup was working.
anthony is literally the best.. if half the population was as happy and nice as he is. :P
@@ihaveabacpac if horror movies have taught me anything it's to not trust someone that likeable meh hah hah ha ha
Even windows installs got custom vs what happens now to make it quicker and change default drivers to stop other vehicles issues.
But I like the automatic install from start of setup to working windows environment from 15-30 mins depending on hardware.
It is pretty cool! Technically they are cheating, as KernelEx updates Win98 with NT technology that didn't exist at the time. HOWEVER, you "can" still "do some of those things" with a default Win98 install. I've played with a lot of real hardware, and it is impressive that lots of the basics developed 30 years ago are still the basis for everything we use today. HTTP is still the exact same, and any non-TLS (non https) pages will "load" on 98 (assuming there isn't JavaScript as it will almost certainly not load on old browsers). HTTPS only doesn't work because the algorithms have advanced and the (98) certificates are no longer valid. I actually use my own private web server to transfer over files to my 98 machines. "Networking" (SMB) CAN still work, but you have to run SMB 1 which is insecure and deprecated and you should really not enable on a modern operating system - but it CAN work. Almost the same with WiFi adapters, Win98 era machines with wifi still CAN work with modern routers as they're backwards compatible - HOWEVER, you will have to turn WPA2 off and run them either unprotected or with an insecure encryption algorithm, which again isn't recommended. It's still cool most of this can still work :)
HTTP aint gone
The fact I didn't know PCem exists makes me super happy. This is EXACTLY what I've been looking for to play all the old edutainment games from my childhood.
This was cool to watch. Got my first PC in 1997 as a young adult. Really enjoyed seeing all this going on, reminds me of those days in 1997.
Thanks for including The Old Net in your video! Long time fan, and fellow Canadian here! If you use the old net as an HTTP proxy (port 1996) all of the internet shortcuts in your start menu for the CD-ROM titles you installed will work which I think is kinda neat.
The Old Net is Best Net!
what a great creation, thank you for the old net!!!
I'm from Canada also and I found my OLD dialup internet provider from your site! That's awesome!!!
@@robman501a nice, which ISP?
@@TheOldNet Niagara Peninsula Freenet. It was all text based, PINE email client, ICOM web browser (with graphics support). I can't remember how it was anymore. That was another lifetime. haha!
For someone using Windows 95 and 98 when I was 8-10 years old, this is infinite nostalgia. Encarta, Grolier, Compton's, Britannica, my grandfather had all of these on his PC and I could spend hours just reading random facts.
This could be exactly what we need at work. The trains at the depot are 30 years old and lots of the software needed for them only runs on 98, we are having all sorts of issues with the ancient laptops we have just reaching end of life.
Yes. Sadly a lot of the old hardware is failing recently. Saw even video on it.
Work? Trains?
The moment I saw Magic School Bus and Encarta 98 my heart fluttered with childhood joy! Both of these pieces of software really defined the PC experience, and to this day I still kind of miss those classic educational games.
I'm looking for a game I used to play where you explore historical sights. Where you could pan the camera and look around, hear sounds. Do you perhaps know? Is it Encarta?
@@ghostelijah7277 Not sure if you're thinking of "Where in Time is Carmen SanDiego" or something else.
@@ghostelijah7277 are you thinking of the journeyman project 3?
I used to play one called Exploropedia where some green tree frog taught geography and biology in a space ship. Very fond memories.
Anthony's passion truly shows through his video ideas. Even though I don't understand 90% of the things they are talking about, these kinds of videos are quite a nice watch. Well written.
I almost forgotten 90% of all these things while you don't understand 90% confirms my suspicion that newer tech IS actually trying to dumb us down. The current Ai of still 1 & 0 isn't getting smarter, it's us getting dumber. I wish the system stayed as manual as this being shown here.
These projects are freaking amazing! Encarta 98 and Road Rash were real trips down memory lane, absolutely loved this video
I remember Encarta 98, my dad bought me a CD copy to help me with my school studies.
its the magic school bus for me. seeing those windows close on the bus.. i can hear the sounds now. :P
@@Linkoid And look at you now... Did you sue both of them?
encarta bring me wild memory of discovering computer in the 90 at school
Can't believe I'm at an age, where I would get excited seeing an old BIOS. You had me at restart to MS-Dos
That part at 13:58 was something I noticed as a kid when I tried playing SimCopter on a slightly newer Windows 98 computer (even without graphics acceleration). Made it pretty much too hot to handle. Original computer on which I'd spent many hours playing it had a 266 MHz CPU, 32MB of RAM, and a video card with 2MB of dedicated video RAM (in the days before AGP cards with GPU's were even a thing). Given the rigs it would run on with good framerates, the 3D graphics of that game were WAY ahead of their time.
Anthony continues to impress, having grown up in the era of memory management and hours spent trying to sort compatibility issues you can just tell those who have felt that pain.
Good old QEMM386.
So damn true. I remember having all kinds of fun trying to fit a VESA 2.0 framebuffer into high memory so I could squeeze out a bit more performance in Wolfenstein 3d, Doom and Ultima Underworld. ;-) I got to be a regular goddamn artist in memory management under DOS 5.0 😁
memmaker.exe haha wow
agree I rem had a headache doing that back in late 90's and early 2000's lol
Love those days
I love how proud Anthony looks watching Linus re-enjoying the old times!
That sincere "It's so cool." from Linus at 12:35. Anthony done good.
Like me when I watch my son play Simcity 2000 or HOMM II on my old hardware from 1997.
They mentioned ATI. I used to like ATI graphics cards, i had a few. There were cheaper alternatives sure but for whatever reason... i still kind of miss that
@@derealized797 Good thing they didn't mention S3. Steaming pile that was. Better than Cirrus Logic, but not by much.
@@the_kombinator i grew up in the 80s and 90s, using computers like the TRS-80 and the TI 99/4A, but the most memorable games to me were the classic DOS games. I remember before Win 95, and before i had a mouse. Before my parents finally got us a color TV.
Games just had more 'heart' put into them, and it's not nostalgia that makes me say it. They weren't all by the books "low risk" corporate follow the same template and milk it with loot boxes and microtransactions, with some political dung no one wanted as the cherry on top. Nope. Back then. People had to create this still fairly new form of entertainment, which was thought of as a kids toy. And they were allowed to be experimental. They were very much so too, and they always felt like authentic human experiences, because everything that went into creating and developing them, WAS.
The closest thing we have to that now is indie games, and look at how much comes out of that. Like Darkwood for example, amazing game. Simplistic looking, and somehow it just works best that way. A AAA developer would never consider that these days.
So aside from rambling on, sorry. I'm almost exclusively a fan on the classics, i spend more time on classical than anything, other than some indie games.
Seeing that Tribes 2 disc brings back great memories, but I'm wondering why no one ever re-released a Starsiege: Tribes remastered with newer graphics but keeping the gameplay intact.
Old doom and duke nukem is so good on modern pcs with virtual box is always awesome.
My dad was an IT specialist and then became IT Director at the local community college when I was growing up, so I was blessed with having a "good" gaming PC in the late 90's. Watching MechWarrior 3 run smooth as butter brought back a sweet sense of nostalgia that I almost teared up.
Same here brother
I played them from the very first and they were sooooo ahead of their time. Because that everything ran at the speed of your PC, having a slow PC meant it would take what seemed like an hour to walk to where you needed to be for the mission you accepted. ahhh such sweet memories
Thank you for sharing. I try to give my kids the best experiences being an IT professional, and I hope one day they will have similar memories that you had with your father.
When I was a teenager, the only games I could afford on my own were from the early 2000's (Beyond Good and Evil, the OG Hitman games, Vampire the Masqurade, etc.) and now even as an adult paying their own bills, these games STILL remain my favorite. Ironically I had to learn a lot more about modern technology in order to get any of them to work properly lol
especially when older games HUD scaling do not play well with high Resolution
That's why (and because GPUs are a ripoff nowadays) I spent more time and money tinkering with my old systems then with new hardware. Only for me it's the DOS times with Win9x games being already less interesting to me. Strangely enough, tinkering with the config.sys and autoexec.bat to get enough free conventional memory to run a game was kinda fun. Also you didn't had countless background tasks running and possibly slowing down your system, without you knowing what they are actually doing and what data they are sending to company servers...
Nowadays we a flooded with games and media about games long before they have been released. Sadly, the days of waiting for a new gaming mag to come out or to stumble over exciting new and unknown games in shops are long over. Being able to afford countless games a month nowadays, while back then having to play the hell out of each game because you couldn't afford new ones (or even used ones) often also doesn't help.
Have you tried BloodHunt?
oh yeah, people who grew with 80's, 90's and early 2000s computers are WAY more tech savvy than any genX could ever be. my 11 yo nephew is less self-suficient with his stuff than i was at 6 years old, and i had an older brother (8) that did most of the heavy lifting back then.
@@GraveUypo i should consider myself lucky then, im from the lost generation (1995-2000) and can proudly say that i know my way around a computer system very well. i plan to pass my knowledge to my nephew, which i have some spare parts to build him a computer so he can screw around with it, just how i used to do back then with my compaq presario 2000 back in the mid 2000's (gosh i miss that old piece of junk
It's amazing how just a few decades have turned computers into nostalgic items for us.
I love this! Talking about a Voodoo, I remembered that I KEPT my Voodoo 3500 and STILL have it...time to play with PCM but then ALSO make a new "old" build with my 3500!!
I like to think that Anthony is always lurking in the LTT offices with a solution to every problem. And 99% of the time that solution is to install Linux.
That is the solution to the awful GUI of Windows 11. Click to show more options? I think not thank you very much Microsoft, kindly take it and shove it where the sun has never shone!!
Tbh he probably is more valuable than Linus himself
He's a Legend
@@TheCarpenterUnion Linus is valuable because he's the brand, he doesn't need to know how to do anything at this point. Your comment is dumb
hes the woz to jobs
The encyclopedia wasnt just if you didnt want kids on the Internet, ISPs at the time like AOL were notoriously slow (56k modems were not until later). I remember getting sets of hard cover encyclopedias when i was a kid because we just didnt have internet and that was just how you looked stuff up.
You reminded me of learning the dewey decimal system and asking for the catalogue at libraries to look for specific titles in what have you genre you were looking for.
Yeah, even in mid 2000's I rem I spent a lot of hours in net cafe for wiki because the cafe had a faster internet connection than the dial-up at my home.
That was a lot of fun. I still have a bunch of those encyclopedias around and I find my kid is far more interested if we read through those than just scroll through Wikipedia. And he's right! It is more fun, albeit impractical. Even before those times, there were yearly almanachs people looked up to stay up-to-date. What was fun about those 28.8kb modems, was how you leave the computer on for all night to download a few megs of a driver, only to see connection broken a few minutes before completion. This led to a bunch of download managers. Thanks for the trip down the memory lane! Long live Netscape!
And also, Wikipedia didn't exist back in 1998. Even in 2005, the English version had less than a tenth of the current number or articles.
I lived in a rural area; we *technically* had an internet connection in 2000 via dialup, but as we only had a single phone line, no phone calls could be made or received if the barely functional dialup was in use. "Actual" internet didn't come until spring of 2004 when cable was finally run to our area (after a lawsuit won by a bunch of farms in the area). We had a physical encyclopedia, and a digital one that wasn't as comprehensive, until then. A lot of people seem to imagine that the internet just "arrived" some day in 1996 and changed the world, forgetting that large areas of North America barely have any access today (I am not counting expensive satellite service, most people can't afford that).
Thank you for making this video. I'd literally spent all day struggling with vmware and virtualbox trying to get a Windows 95 installation going on Windows 10, with no real success. PCem had me up and running within a couple more hours!
That feeling that you can max out the setting of a game you can't from decades ago but truly dreamed you could.
God bless.
For that "Backwards compatibility" story, I think it's rather editorialized a bit. they didn't add specific code to look for Sim city. What they did, was add a new item to the existing Application Compatibility Database for the sim city executable with a particular CRC that enabled an allocator shim. Not sure if they made that shim specifically for Sim City or not, though. Therse shims were used when applications accidentally or intentionally relied on implementation details. Like the devs that noticed Win95 only used the lower 16-bits of a handle and decided that meant the other 16 was free real estate, which meant Windows 98 and NT needed a compatibility shim that would tell Windows to not use the upper 16-bits of a handle for that process. It's not even really a case of backwards compatibility because those original programs pretty much worked by accident before, not by design.
And that brings us to any/all "reserved" stuff that software uses. It's the reason why MS refuses to fix certain things in the OS. Too much software relies on broken ideas, and if they fix Windows completely, it will break software.
Point and click adventures really died down a lot with the old hardware. They were usually amazing though, even with the frustration of running back and forth because you missed an item by a pixel while spam clicking in a previous room.
osrs would like a word
They are making a comeback. I just miss the 80's/90's feel of them.
I was mesmerized by this video and couldn’t stop watching! So many great memories, and I had no idea PCem existed and allowed us to go back in time! Boys - amazing job on putting this video together- so fun to watch!
Man, this was a real trip down memory lane. I'm actually considering setting this up.
Mechwarrior 3 and 4 are some of my favorite childhood games. Unwrapping the big box copy of MW3 back in the day is a core memory. I have an old PC to play them so this is an interesting solution
Good luck with mechwarrior3 is notoriously hard to emulate, if you got success let me know your setup with a reply please. I think MW3 got unplayable for me when i upgraded from a win 98 pc to an XP machine. I could not Finish my first campaign where i was stuck on the lone Annihilator level. Edit- Just saw the video with MW3
Mechwarrior 2 accelerated for the S3 ViRge is how I started. Fun times.
@@Abb0able Yeah. It was unplayable when I switched to XP. Wouldn't run at all
Wait, you liked MW3 AND the nerfed MW4? Who are you?
@@Abb0able You can run MechWarrior 3 natively on a modern computer. No need for emulation.
I managed to run it at 1080p 32bit color too.
Hey Linus -- 86Box, which you skimmed, supports mounting a host folder as a guest CD, without making an ISO. First feature in their 86Box v3.11 release announcement. Hadn't heard of any of this though, great topic for a video. This fills the last gap I can think of, regarding reliving those days/years of the past. Much respect.
Was going to mention 86Box too, it's a fork of PCEm, and as you say adds support for a lot of other features and whilst the UI isn't quite as intuitive, the level of hardware emulated should keep pretty much any 90s nerd happy. Also there's a fork of 86Box, PCBox which adds Pentium III emulation and a few other things.
Was trying emulators in the past to get my old softwares and games running, only worked like 50-70% of them.
Saved up some bucks and build myself a premium 486 120MHz VLB MPC machine with scsi card and CD-player and MPEG-accelerator for DOS and Win3.11 softwares, then a Pentium 3 1GHz with GeForce 3 Ti 500 and dual Voodoo2's for Glide backwards compatibility, AWE64 Gold and Aureal Vortex support for Win98 stuffs.
To make mid 90's DOS games to run on the P3 computer, I just deactivate external CPU cache in the BIOS.
Works pretty darn well still to this day, and have no problems running anything made in the 80's and 90's era.
Also got an IBM xt 5160, and 386 33MHz all working and usable for cpu-clock dependent games.
No other computers needed.
used to have MechWarrior 3 way back in the day. i believe my first laptop had Vista, likely with a ~2 GHz processor. but since the game was designed around a slower and less powerful computer, it had complications. aside from the screen and mouse cursor being desynced at menus, i couldn't even move when in a mission. searching online, i found a 3rd party program that basically slowed down my processor speed to the bare minimum. having that run in the background fixed my gameplay issues, allowing me to play through it again
Just wanted to add that if you save the hard drive image as a VHD instead of RAW, you can mount it directly within windows to transfer files
100% This. This is SO useful ins situations like this!
In the old days, the arrows + alt + shift + ctrl were the buttons that had least issues with n-key roll-over. Those were the buttons that were expected to be pressed at the same time so keyboard manufacturers actually cared. If you tried to press a couple of letter keys at the same time, some buttons stopped registering pretty fast.
*lack of n-key rollover
also i'm fairly certain that this still is the case with keyboards that still lack nkro
@@TorutheRedFox Yes, the problem with USB keyboards is that the default USB protocol only supports 6-key rollover at the protocol level. There are workarounds for true n-key rollover but those are not without problems in some operating systems. Hence most keyboards with true n-key rollover also have option to use 6-key rollover protocol.
Man that used to annoy me, beceause back in the day we would try asnd play 2d fighting games and have both me and my friend puse the same keyboard, using opposite ends of the keyboard, WASD and then the numpad side.
Obvs with two people smashing buttons on the same keyboard many keys would need to be pressed the the same time.
Once N KEY ROLLOVER became a common thing things got much better.
Ohhhhh that makes sense
@@doyourownresearch7297 I assume you're referring to old game Slick 'n' Slide. That was indeed one of the problematic games but many other did also exist. The problem will also surface with any software that supports doing something by holding multiple letter keys down at the same time - I guess some kind of multitracker software would apply here.
You had me at Mech Warrior!! This is awesome.
What a time to be alive, and older than 30 years. :D Now I can get back to some of those games I didn't even understand as a small child but just raged my keyboard.
86box has the option to mount any folder as if it was a CD-ROM, which definitely is a lot more convenient for file transfer than using some sort of networking.
Yeah theres nothing wrong with PCem but i feel like 86box is far better
I'm confident this will go down as being one of those videos with too much depth and explanation at the cost of viewer retention, but I'm really glad the depth and explanation are there. This kind of insight is difficult to come by and I'm glad you have retro hardware and software enthusiasts on your team to give it.
That's what chapters are for
I intend to get my 98 system back because It's a must for me, but in the meantime I use virtualbox on an xp rig for my basic needs. It's impressive to see this option is here though!
You know what - this took me right back. My IT Carrier began in 1986. I went from dos and a massive 10mb Hard Drives (Both Esdi and MFM) and here I am on windows 11!
Road Rash, and the original Need for Speed absolutely took me back to my childhood. Adored those games back in the day, and NfS was my earliest experience using a wheel and pedals set up, which eventually lead to my sim racing hobby and time in competitive league racing
Road Rash runs even native.
I hope this will advance just a bit and cover the XP era which is where a lot of my favorite games tend to be based around still this is a massive victory for the retro gaming fan base
Here's hoping it'll run NFS Hot Pursuit 2. The only way I've got it running on my PC is via an extra Hard Drive I can boot up Linux from. It's convenient enough, but not ideal.
Do you need it for XP? It looks like they're doing more tinkering to get the emulator working than I have to do to get games from the XP era to run on a modern OS.
What did Deus Ex, Thief; The Dark Project, System Shock and all those games run on?
I'm running a WIN10 PC, I have never ever encountered a WINXP game that doesn't work on WIN10.
But, if you still want an XP machine, it pretty much works on any PC, the single main problem being the Nvidia drivers.
Latest Nvidia cards that have XP drivers are the 700 series, with some unofficial driver hack for 900 series. So, anything Pascal (GTX1000) or later, it's not going to work.
But even if you do find a game not running on WIN10, it will most def work on WIN7, which also supports Pascal.
Honestly there's no rational reason of owning a retro XP machine (aside from nostalgia).
WIN98 and lower native machines is a different discussion.
@@cosmindinaa guitar hero 3 pc edition
Road Rash was impressive! I LOVED that game. Encarta in 96 was a life saver for school. No need to go to the library! Lastly, DOSBox was always the go-to. This new setup seems fun.
I don't think a lot of your fan base understands how powerful yet complicated Win 95 & 98 was. We needed the For Idiots books to help
Road Rash was one of the few PC games I ever played back then. I loved it. I didn’t really get into PC gaming until much later but I’ve been going back and playing all the games I missed, even on original hardware which I started collecting lol
Wow - this took me back. Does anyone else remember having to use QEMM (Quarterdeck Expanded Memory Manager) to eke the last few K out of conventional memory to get your DOS games to run? I also vividly remember the first time I saw a Voodoo 3DFX card - a college friend had bought one over the summer holidays. A few of us had read about these 3D cards but were skeptical to say the least. He got us aorund for beer and casually did a back-to-back comparison of Quake vs GL Quake and the difference was jaw-dropping. I literally spent most of my student loan the very next day buying an Orchid RIghteous 3D card and Matrox Millenium 2D card to go with it. Another friend had salvaged some 1 megabit coax network cards along with some cable and terminating resistors from the trash at his summer job after the company he was working with had made the switch to CAT5. After the usual fight with jumpers for DMA and IRQ settings this setup allowed four of us to play Doom, GL Quake and Command and Conquer head to head into the small hours. Fun times!
Anthony's absolutely amazing. The tinkering he does make for the best videos at LTT hands down.
I remember editing batch files to get more of that hidden system memory! Doom 1 said it would run on 4 MB of RAM it would but barely-video cards in the early 90’s were not that helpful with the games at that time-so I had scrounge around looking for more internal memory-ah the days of that and setting jumpers on your sound blaster sound cards! Thanks for blast from the past!
I've been searching Mixed up mother goose for ages. I knew the way the graphics looked but didn't know the name of the game from my childhood. Thanks LTT!
This makes me happy to watch and see how older hardware has become software based after a long while. I love to see everything becoming archived. I have my own Floppy disks and even older Windows installs and the software to them given to me as hand me downs. That's why I'll never get rid of them. To go along with it I have a Dell XPS Windows Media Center.
This takes me back, when games were complete, and mechwarrior games were good fun.
No day-1 patches!
The last one isn't that bad. But it is not that good either. I really miss Earthsiege 2.
"When games were complete." Clearly you didn't play Outpost; even after its 1.5 patch, the game was still HIDEOUSLY broken. As in, all of the fancy pre-rendered cutscenes that they marketed so heavily just didn't play at all. And I played the game for months and over 900 turns before realizing that I couldn't win, because it wouldn't let me build a spaceport or a terraforming facility to "end" the game.
@@MadMac5 clearly I didn't.
@@Raneru that earthsiege was great for its time. Cyberstorm too.
You also have to enable SMB1 on the newer machines in order for 98 or XP to see modern systems over the network.
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"Also, Mind Maze is lit."
I absolutely love this guy
I absolutely LOVE this kind of stuff. Please please PLEASE do more. I miss those times. Thanks Linus and team
hes just trying to stay relevant
Oh man, seeing that Encarta brought forth so many emotions and nostalgia! I remember just copying all my assignaments from there and my teachers used to love it, because they thought i actually researched "hard"... lmao
I was not expecting to hear Mind Maze described as lit. Not that he was wrong tho.
Oh yeah, that Encarta stuff was golden! It actually helped me a lot with my English, since I'm not a native speaker so I had to translate everything in my native language. This brings back so many memories!
My mom worked as a Project Manager at Compton Interactive back at the day (my grandfather worked there too). Hearing that name thrown out so flippantly was surreal.
12:11 MindMaze was *SO* lit! I would get lost for hours! Hearing that music would give me goosebumps today!❤
7:35 Road Rash! I still play that today although I play the ported version (not on emulator). Even I still listen to the game soundtrack sometimes, alternative rock of the 1990s is so good. We also remember on how educative games like Instant Artist or Typershark and Encarta Encylopedia enlightened kids to technology back then. Windows 98 was a special computing experience.
9:45 "These are images from my _own CD collection._ I own all these games."
If that was _literally anyone else_ I'd assume they were just saying that to cover their butts, but with Anthony? I have _zero doubt_ that he really does own physical copies of _all those games._
Wow, this brought back some serious legacy PC "flashbacks" from the late 80's and early 90's! My first official PC was an IBM PS2 but my first "real serious" desktop system was an Everex Step 386DX-20 massive tower case that had a huge 128MB of RAM, a 5 1/4" internal hard drive (can't remember what size it was), a 5 1/4" and 3 1/2" floppy drives and a Packard-Bell EGA CRT! I managed to score a copy of Windows 3.1 to install on it and thought I was the something for having such a "high end" system of the day. I still have "autoexec.bat" and "config.sys" nightmares from back then.
I did not know about old net, you've just thrown me back into a very nostalgic time.
Oh man, that is some nostalgia. The first new PC my dad bought (they'd all been second hand until then) was a Pentium MMX at 233mhz, complete with 32mb of SIMM RAM and an 8 gig HDD, a 2mb Matrix Mystique and a Sound Blaster card. That thing got rebuilt constantly over the next few years. Used to love seeing how far I could push the limits of what it would run on it.
Same thing for me! My original machine was a K5 100mhz and 16MB SRAM and a Diamond 4MB plus the sound blaster card. Then went to a K6 233mhz and 32MB RAM and 8MB 3D gpu. I would try to push it through the limits and see what it would run or not. Such fond memories...
I have the similar experience. I upgraded my Pentium 2 to almost absolute limit. 233MHz processor -> Overclocked 350MHz. 3GB hard drive -> 160GB. 4MB SIMM RAM -> 320 MB. ATI RAGE 2 -> Radeon 9200.
You can't upgrade modern computer ten times faster without new motherboard. I still have this ancient rig for retro gaming.
" Used to love seeing how far I could push the limits of what it would run on it."....Yeah...I did that a lot in the 486 DX4 era and then the Pentium 2 era....I am still amazed about how I could afford to mount that Pentium 2...I sold a lot of my stuff and bough piece by piece of it...good times, well, not so good....but that was a good part of that time lol
90s PC games looked so great! Some of my favorite games of all time were playable on Win98!
@@jetsetbob2875 98lite was great, especially the totally stripped version
@Jetsetbob2 no, it's the correct opinion. Win98 fixed Win95's bugs and also allowed FAT32 so your new harddrive didn't have to partition.
WinME was the one that sucked. We just waited for WinXP to come out.
@Jetsetbob2 The major problem with Windows 98 was the "Active desktop" that kept crashing, other than that it was fine, other than the occasional blue screen of course.
Not having to deal with aging physical hardware is a huge plus. I managed to score a pretty decent Pentium 3 setup from FB market place a while back, but sadly the hardware also came from the "capacitor plague" era. So it'll boot-ish, sometimes... maybe. And I just haven't had the inclination to try and find a local hardware repair shop to fix it, nor get the tools to try and fix it myself. Having a virtual environment for mid / late 90's stuff is amazing, even to just help me figure out how to setup the real thing once the times comes.
MechWarrior 3 was my jam as a kid. My dad and I sunk so many hours into it. Core Memory indeed. Also Rogue Squadron. Joystick controller with both games.
I've been subscribed since late 2016 (right around the beginning of the 1 year airflow experiment) and just wanted to say thank you for all the tech tips through the years. I can't believe the team has expanded so much since then, and I love what you are doing with the lab. Congrats on a legendary 15 million, and more across all the other channels in the LMG empire.
11:05 Linus' "yeah..." is just pure gold. I know exactly how he feels. Back in the day when booting those games with a voodoo card was just magic.
I didn't even catch that the first time around. That's the most sensual and excited _yeah._
Wow. I'm pretty sure I had every one of those games. I loved Mortal Kombat III and was so impressed how Win95 would launch in game is DOS and reboot back to 95 when you exit game. And don't get me started on the 640K Conventional Memory. Hours and hours configuring to get one game to work only for the next one to fail. Man those were good times!
Takes me back to the 90s when I started gaming on my 386SX....those were the days. Thanks for the video.
This definetly brought me back. I kinda understand how people would take this for granted, but for someone like me who didn't have a very good gaming PC and was trying anything to make my games run even back then... the nostalgia is indescribable. Thank you for this video!
Yes but the question remains...how is this going to help getting rid of FSG?
@@memeguyTM It seems we're not getting rid of FSG so soon, so the suffering continues til god knows when =(
@@celticsuave very sad, if Liverpool had the fans of the old days, the there would be outcry at Anfield unfortunately the club has changed to be line every other modern day club
@@memeguyTM Exactly! But unfortunately our current fans decided to stay silent and just eventually cry for some changes in social media, which of course won't do shite for our situation. That's why I lost any kind of hope.
Yea at that time the first game was to make the game run
I love that you had 'Tribes' for your visible disk for the open. I LOVED that game. It should have been way more popular. I have tried to explain that game to too many people.
i remember going from quake to tribes and getting absolutely destroyed on lan because i was trash at the insane movement they gave us
I played Tribes 1 and 2 competitively, it was hoping to see him load up tribes 2. I still have my disks, boxes and manuals for those games.
Starsiege Tribes was the most memorable game I have played.. my first FPS!
We had tribes on the school computers (in like 2006). I have fond memories of spending weeks playing games instead of doing our school projects, then on the last day just copying everything off Wikipedia and handing it, blue hyper links and all.
Yep, I still regard it as one of the best team based FPS games of all time, back in the OGL days of competition. The incredibly steep learning curve (esp for T1) and lack of good tutorials kept the mainstream out, but man was it worth sticking with it!
Yes! This is what I have been looking for! Thanks 🙏🥳
11:55 i remember being assigned book reports and expected to go to the library to complete the research needed to finish the assignment. That and many nights just reading and writing the encyclopedia out over and over again.
I feel so nostalgic like I am just 22 but back in the days I remember playing these games with my friends and I don't even know where those people are anymore. Watching you play road rash kicked me down to those memories so hard. Thanks LTT :)
Yeah that’s my favorite game from my childhood, used a sidewinder joystick to play.
Also more oldschool retro content with Anthony please. This content is always exciting
There definitely *was* BIOS based overclocking back then. You couldn't adjust the Clock speed directly, but you could increase clock speed by increasing the FSB. That's how I overclocked my Celeron 300a from 300Mhz to 450Mhz. It's still one of the most epic overclocks I have ever seen. A performance increase of 50% without an aftermarket cooling solution or compromising stability. It was even outperforming their flagship Pentium 2 450Mhz at the time. That was rare though, usually overclocking included playing with jumpers. There was also the graphite mods as mentioned. You just connected traces with a pencil. I actually miss those days. Overclocking was so much fun back then.
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Holy shit, seeing Carmageddon and Road Rash icons transported me back to when I was a kid playing those games on an old PC that ran Windows 98.
I probably shouldn't have played those games at that age, but...
OMG ... the Timing is perfect ...I pulled my original copy of Diablo II , tried to install it on my gaming PC running windows 11 , and I run into countless issues , I deleted everything and opened UA-cam. Guess what this video was the first to show up on my recommended videos... Thank You Linus
Diablo II (original) works just fine on Windows 11 natively. Not sure what you were doing wrong or what "countless issues" you had, but since this is a massively popular retro game it's been very well documented on PCGamingWiki. I think the issue here is PEBKAC and nothing more.
@@Glotttis maybe cuz am using the original CD !! Not the version from Blizzard battlenet ?! Example : game asking to put the Play Disc while the Disc is already there.
it will work if you dont use the perspective thing or a glide wrapper
I ran into issues too even back on win 7 days, I love the game so much I ended up just buying the compatible version on battle net. But now that D2R is out, that's what I play now, they did a great job with it. They have corrected a few old housekeeping and QOL items and are adding content. Although I think it would be a good idea if they added modes for original LOD, 1.09, and the newest, 1.14 I think it is now.
way too complicated way
Just use dgvoodoo 2 and run it native...
Thanks for sharing this with us Anthony! Probably the most important memory pc wise of our childhood was gaming, and I kept an old laptop to be able to play those games. But it’s a hell of a lot easier doing it your way! Always watch your videos! Great work!
Thank you so much for this guide, I've been struggling to get a lot of my old windows 95 and 98 games that I still have the disks for to run on modern windows, usually having to rely on remasters or fan-patches, or in some cases having the give up completely (for reasons I cannot explain, the Lithtech engine OUTRIGHT REFUSES to run at all, so Blood 2, Shogo, and AVP2 just won't run no matter how many fan fixes and fresh installs I try)
19:25 PCem can use VHD image for HDD, though its not the default selection when setting up machine. And Windows 10 host can mount said VHD to transfer files
Thank you for putting this together! I've been building a list of every game I've ever played to spend a few hours (or more) in each of them. I was dreading trying to get software from 87-00s running.
Any way you could share that list with us? Especially the educational games, I played many of them but forgot their names.
This is really cool. And I'm so thankful for techies that work on open source projects like this if only because it gives us access to our history. It also gives us options, which is always a good thing.
The virtual harddrives (VHD) that you make and use in PCem can happily be mounted in windows 10 for that easy file transfer.
God I love the Win95 version of Road Rash. That game was a huge part of my childhood trying to get further in Big Game Mode than my Dad.
Love it! I remember using 95 but very soon updated to 98. Most of my memorable moments were on XP though as I used it extensively.
This is amazing! Thanks so much for this video. Mechwarrior 3 is my one of my favorite games from back then.
5:52 damn. i remember that, it was installed on one of the few computers we had in primary school.
i remember about that age visiting friends that had space invaders and such on their computers. og atari style graphics where the ship is just a triangle outline, lol.
I have been using DOSBox-X in place of regular DOSBox for a while now, and it is way better than the original in my opinion. It's an open source fork of DOSBox with many more features and customization, and it's quite a bit simpler to use. Just thought I'd mention it here!
Thanks for this. I've just been playing with it, and it is indeed much better
Hey, check out dosbox-staging too if you haven't already. I still prefer standard Dosbox, for whatever reason. But -staging packs a ton of features too. Including integrated soundfont support.
@@terrapinflyer273 interesting! I should check it out, I have been having issues with that in DOSBox-X (hopefully they'll fix that soon)
Good day. I have played around with PCem. Having issues moving files from your host machine to the virtual machine was a bit of a struggle. But mounting the virtual hard disk from the PCem folder within windows 10 disk manager allowed me to quickly and easily move folders and files between the two. .vhd files used for PCem virtual hard disks was definitely the best thing since sliced bread...
You are a GOD.... Thank you for this vid that I came across as I had NO IDEA that PCem existed and thanks to YOU now I am having fun doing up a Windows 98 AND Windows 3.1 POems!!!! You are awesome!! also HAPPY NEW YEARS to you!!
I have some Old Pcs at home (one for MS-DOS, one for W99SE and one for WXP) but I am temporary living in USA for work and this kind of emulation is awesome! I have to watch what hardware requires since here I only have an SteamDeck (and a M1 Macbook that probably is not compatible).
I started with DOS and Win 3.11 - Win98 was a HUGE improvement on 95. You got a blue screen of death if you did not unmount your CD-s. Win98 still had the blue screen but just jumped back to the GUI after.
I still have phisical copy of eye of the beholder on a CD I might try this to start it.
I remember that when I used to use Windows 98 SE in a IBM ThinkPad 380ED, and the experience with the plug&play feature in a fresh install is flawless.