Cosplaying TF2 as a Woman is FRUSTRATING
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- Having been cosplaying TF2 for nearly a decade and incidentally being a woman, there are some opinions and experiences that should be shared.
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0:00 Intro
0:20 Skymin is a Woman
1:03 A History/Analysis of FemMerc Designs
4:48 Gender /= Cosplay Gender
7:00 Impossible Standards
8:12 My Cosplay Preferences
9:54 Harassment & Irritations
12:05 I Shouldn't Have To Talk About This...
13:27 My Introspective Explanation
17:33 Special Guest
23:20 Be Respectful - Ігри
Hey guys! I want to address and clarify a few things:
1. I chose Femscout as my main example because it’s the costume of mine that has gotten the most exposure. This means it had the largest number of Feminization comments to pull from. However I’d like to make it clear that Scout is not the only one I’ve received these comments on. The predominantly male TF2 characters I’ve cosplayed have all received these types of comments to different extents and frequency. Scout was just the easiest to pull from (and record in). I probably should have included comments from my other cosplays (hindsight 20/20) but I had hoped that the comments I included from Saxton Hale would do the same job.
2. Yes, I have a pony tail and yes Femscout has a ponytail (FemSniper as well). And I can understand some people thinking that ponytail = FemScout but what about a guy with one or with long hair? I’ve known my fair share of Scout’s with that and they don’t get questioned if they’re doing FemScout. Some have said I should hide my hair, which means I either wear a wig (which I have stated why I don’t and wouldn’t be worth it for this costume) or I hide my hair in the hat, the latter of which would be very uncomfortable to do considering the length/thickness of my hair combined with a headset that’s very tight to wear. I’m a firm believer that TF2 cosplay is very accessible to everyone regardless of their physical features. Saying I have to hide personal features of myself contradicts that belief.
3. All my interactions with fellow TF2 cosplayers have been positive. They’re a legitimately great corner of the community. It’s assumed that these online comments likely come from people who do not participate in the community/hobby or are even familiar with it.
cool femscout costume
this is a joke meant to make fun of how these kinds of people ignore everything else and make a dumb comment
Dont listen to the tf2 community on gender. You will only go 2 steps back for every foot forward.
Have you ever heard of the streisand effect?
@@wanttoseea3892 The TF2 Community does not care about what Gender one is when Cosplaying. People have cosplayed as TF2 Characters for years, and nobody batted an eye at how the cosplayer was a guy or a girl. (Matter of fact, the Community finds it more humorous than insulting.)
The fact that you try making this all about Gender Politics tells me more about _YOU_ than it does about the TF2 community as a whole.
You'd be right on the last one. The Commenters who are against Women cosplaying as TF2 Characters usually turned out to have NOT played TF2 at all. They just look at the art work and just say "You have to be accurate".
Those kinds of people, I feel, should not be listened to. They never played TF2 at all, or actually been a part of the community in the last odd decade or so.
Matter of fact, if Gender truly was so important to TF2, we wouldn't have Fem-versions of the characters on the community servers... And especially not fem-versions of the TF2 teams all across the Gmod and SFM workshops. Those exist because people like them... And their ratings show how Positively people accept those versions.
So if anything, those whining about your Cosplay? They either are those trying to start nonsense in the TF2 Community, or are just trolls... Which can sometimes be one and the same.
This is how "Infiltrators" start to make a game decline, they basically turn up, spin a fake outrage narrative that _hopefully (for them)_ creates enough of a stink to force the developers to bend the knee to those people... Which only feeds their ego and causes them to shift the goalposts again and again until eventually, the Game Developers cannot cater to them anymore, the Loyal fans have long since abandoned the game, and the ones who crafted the outrage have abandoned the community... Much like Locusts having torn up what was once a lush and fertile land of produce.
This is why I have a habit of calling such people "Locusts", or "Parasites", because that is what they are. I much rather just ignore those Parasites because that is all that they want, someone to create such a stink that the devs believe they are forced to act in ways that they should not.
Skymin: "This is a woman" TF2 Community: "Dear God!"
There’s more
@@Irken_Invader_Zim No....
@@MrCybersnow ...🤨
I have done nothing but teleport women for three days.
Where have you been sending them !!! @@UberDr009
Don’t lie to me, you say you’re cosplaying as a scout but I know the truth you’re cosplaying as the spy
The last word out your sorry mouth will be “I am a spy!”
It’s the spy disguised as Skymin dressing up as the scout. XD
Damn that got a chuckle out of me. Take my like.
@@somedude3314"Come on, I don't have all day"
@@miccool9ice363This Spy has already breached our defenses!
@@dimsthedimwit600 _Dramatic closeup shot as the Soldier's hand hits the Spy's face_
*S P Y*
I saw your cosplay. I didn't think Femscout. I didn't think Scout.
I fucking thought "Oh wow, Jerma"
LMAO
Technically, youre not wrong
*_GOT ME WHEEZING!_*
Thanks for the laugh!
german 9 to 5
LMAO
Gender is fucking cringe we should classify people on how hard they can ball
This is my favorite quote on the internet
man, i cant even be classified (u u )
W
Based
How many libid they have.
If a guy is allowed to wear a skirt, cat ears, and other female clothing because they wanna dress up as their favorite anime waifu, then I don't see the problem if a girl wants to dress up as Macho Man Randy Savage.
Facts
Yeah, but they are called femboys or ladyboys. They are not necessarily hated.
IDK, I’ve encountered male anime fans that don’t take kindly to femboys that crossdress before.
@@kaylemathewcomendador6964 Nowadays it's the inverse where effeminate males or masc-presenting people get fetishized to oblivion. It's not a problem to have a type or preference at all, it's just I see many "femboy" characters (or just the femboy label as expression) being reduced to hypersexuality.
@@prouddegenerates9056well they are fetishized
Some people are just weird honestly. The first time you posted your scout cosplay, I didn’t think “Oh, she’s cosplaying the femscout” I could tell right away that you were dressed as scout.
same
same
Same, didn't even understood the point of saying femscout, like I was actually searching for what made it "female"
Yeah same here
Wow really?!?!
I wasn’t allowed to cosplay male characters as a teen because my mom thought it would make me transgender.
…That’s not how that works.
Man if that was how it worked the Naruto fandom would be so full of trans boys, given how many girls I've seen cosplay Naruto and Sasuke to record clips of themselves kissing to fuel the Sasunaru side of everything. (the fact that it's even A Thing still floors me)
It's so frustrating that some people still don't understand that dressing a certain way =/= being transgender
oh man.. when I was younger I would go to cons in normal clothes and take my cosplay to change into because my mom was on my ass about the same thing
Whaaaaat… Lol what.
I never cosplayed and still turned out transgender, checkmate over concerned parents
Same thing applies to being black and cosplaying a non black character, people will just be like "Your cosplay doesn't work because your black" and it's actually so FRUSTRATING
Same thing happens to almost anyone cosplaying a character when they aren’t the character’s race, gender, age, body shape, etc.(example: white person cosplaying a non-white, or in your case black cosplaying non-black, Asian cosplaying non-Asian, the list goes on hehe) like bruv, it’s cosplay?? People need to calm down and let others have fun. Sorry you have to deal with idiots.
FRR like am i supposed to magically turn white
I once saw a black dude cosplaying Alucard from Hellsing and I wasn't thinking "oh my god! he's black!", it was "holy shit this dude is massive" as he stood at a solid 7 feet tall.
and the worst part is, most white ppl cosplay asians and borderline culturally appropriate their clothes for views but the majority has no problem with it, but they draw the line at a black person cosplaying an asian character and also completely disregard the fact that asian people can be darkskinned.
yall, PLEASE keep doing what ur doing 🫶🏽 cosplay is for everyone
"Gender could use a touch up" holy shit I found John Dysphoria
😂
blud is funny
Creator of Dysphoria
Tell me where he is… I just wanna talk
@@freddiefishtonWhy do you have a shotgun??
Cosplay culture can be so toxic. I'm sorry.
You better be
I didn't even know it was like that. Like come on bruh 😂
It's beyond toxic.....
*Nerd culture
Pppf love the name
I remember seeing an extremely buff dude cosplay as Lara Croft.
I would actually love to see that cosplay. (I think it would be silly)
That sounds pretty based ngl
Respect
here's a funny story i once heard. this didn't happen to me, and i don't know this individual personally, but someone was cosplaying miss pauling in a convention. they were at the top of the stairs, and a scout cosplayer showed up. the miss pauling cosplayer said "hi" and the scout cosplayer leaned against the railing, said "hey miss pauling" and then fell down the stairs. she never found out if the scout cosplayer was doing that intentonally as part of the scout roleplay or not.
If that was Intentional bravo if it wasn't bravo
If that was Intentional bravo if it wasn't bravo
If that was Intentional bravo if it wasn't bravo
If that was Intentional bravo if it wasn't bravo
That's incredible.
tf2 players be normal to women challenge (impossible)
also holy smokes that Korra cosplay is amazing
internet culture be normal to women challenge (impossible)
@@able_archer01 internet culture be normal challenge (impossible)
@@timjohnathan internet culture be challenge (impossible)
@@giby8866Internet culture challenge (impossible)
@@aliveashes4532 internet culture be not normal to women challenge (easy)
cosplayers receive a lot flak for not LITERALLY BEING THE SAME RACE/GENDER/HEIGHT/WEIGHT as their characters.
I hosted a TF2 meet up at anime los angeles and we got great pictures and had a lot of fun. but people online were roasting on the demo man for not black, the scout for being a girl, and the medic being asian (that's me).
Online, the pictures and group received a good amount of love, but also a few criticisms about physical features we couldn't control. It's dumb because it's cheap pot shots. we can't live up to impossible expectations as skymin says. our cosplays were on point but ughh people always have something to nitpick
I hate that among gamers/nerds (no hate, cus I am one too), there's a loud minority behind a screen that lack social etiquette and aren't afraid to flame people who share their cosplays online
Hello! i was the scout at your meetup! i had a great time, in fact im NOT a girl and that just confuses me even more, despite this however no one should be called out for being NOT EXACTLY LIKE THE CHARACTER! i agree its really dumb
Being called Femscout is not flak, not an insult. It's just a name, that is justified because the feminine equivalent of the characters in TF2 do not exist in the original game.
Im cosplaying medic cause I cuz I can speak German
@@Simboisssay you didn't watch/pay attention to the video without saying you didn't watch/pay attention to the video
@@Simboissbro probably liked his own comment too
I think it's because the average TF2 player has never talked to a real woman
I think some of them never seen a woman
Woman? The fuck is that?
That or just because (maybe) Females don't play Tf2 (this is a joke that the entire Tf2 fandom and people that play Tf2 make)
Getting labeled with things you’re actively trying to not be put into is incredibly frustrating (especially being labelled as trans just because you aren’t conveniently feminine) Good on you for doing this, because making something about a pent up frustration without coming off as a douche isn’t easy.
I failed at resisting the urge to reply to your comment because I like your content.
SPY HAS NO GUN, DO NOT BELIEVE HIS LIES!
It's a lot like when you're called australian!!
jk
It's insane that transphobes go so far to ruin the lives of people including those they claim to care for
it's not easy to reply with "spy has a gun" so i will just tip my hat to you and say 'thanks' for spy tips
The weirdest thing is that there is an actual (fanmade) female version of the scout, and she looks different enough from the male version that it’s clear which one someone is cosplaying.
Unless that version is wearing pants.
@@MrRAGE-md5rj ...Uh, Femscout is usually portrayed with pants. The ones with Skirts was a later addition.
@@MrRAGE-md5rjshort pants, correction.
Most people don't even know about Fem Scout. So when people see a woman cosplay scout to them it's Gendetbent scout.
Fem Scout has a noticeably different shirt with a collar
It's honestly a problem for both sides. While women cosplaying men often face harasment , men cosplaying woman are treated like jokes no matter what the intention of the cosplay was
nonbinary people are immune to the petty squabbles of the gendered (joke)
Being a Female in the TF2 community must REALLY be painful
God be with you Scout, you got this
woman*
@@eveleen.female and woman mean the same thing. Woman is just a female human.
I heard that being oart of that comunitty is already painful, but i guess being a woman adds salt at the injury
being a woman in gaming spaces in general is pretty painful yeah
@@piroshk1968 Allow me to fix your statement: existing in gaming is painful
ofc itz always like them yapping that "you should cosplay (female character) instead" or "you can't cosplay as a man!! grrr!!"
like stfu let me dress up as silly robot engineer
ALSO, I’m surprised that no one knew I’m a girl when cosplaying a *””male””* character. I mean, I’m glad that I wasn’t assumed as the robot femgineer despite having a feminine body shape (since yeah, I was cosplaying him as is), but my gender gets assumed alot n that sux :(
Is it same thing for race?
@NormalGuy985 Very much, I've seen people get mad at things like that. 😭 It can be both rude, and just straight up annoying.
@@NormalGuy985probably, which says a lot
@@V1_the_coin_robot damn, better I get prepared for those comments for when I post a cosplay in the tf2 sub, with my face blurred out of course
I know right. Let people cosplay whoever they want
No way, Scout TF2!
Seriously though, I'm sorry you have to go through this. This is part of why I'm afraid of doing cosplay.
Don't let it scare you away! I know it's hard to but try to pay no attention to this sort of stuff. Do it for yourself. Do it because you want to and enjoy it.
I understand the fear to cosplay due to the bad kind of criticism and attention. I strive for accuracy and wanting to look as natural as possible but honestly, the experience of putting together a costume is so fun and you should try to fight the negativity. Surround yourself with other people you know and can trust with cosplays. There are plenty of great guys and gals that can make cosplaying less scary and more fun to engage in as a hobby!
You should do cosplay anyway. It is fun.
And then those people wonder why they "can't talk to girls". Maybe if they talked to them like they were fellow human beings rather than mythical creatures or subhumans they wouldn't have so much trouble?
Thank you for speaking about this issue in the tf2 community. I faced the same problem with my own Scout costume because I was apparently "too short" and "too chubby" to cosplay as him. Since when did dressing up as a fictional character mean you have to look exactly like them? Let people have fun in the communities that bring them joy!
Great video!
I don't know why spelling errors in harassment is so funny to me
if you gotta bully someone at least do it right
they can't and it's funny because they can't
I'd give it good odds those ones in particular are written by 13 year olds.
REAL. Especially if they’re trying to call you a slur and misspell/typo it. It’s hilarious.
(For clarification, slurs aren’t funny, I’m speaking from experience when people have tried to call me slurs and can’t spell them correctly. I start cackling lol)
@@user-bx3kz9sp8p Another classic is spelling the word correct but managing to pick a word that is not the one they wanted. I ran into someone talking about an amendment to their country's constitution and going "THEY'RE RIPPING THE CONSTITUENCY APART" two days ago and it made me impersonate a hyena.
@@neoqwerty NOO! NOT THE CONSTITUENCY!! XD
I still remember when a poor girl posted a medic cosplay on the reddit,just her in a normal 1 to 1 costume of the medic without any changes to make it more feminine or "sexy",and the community acted so weird about it she had to take down the post. I really hope she's doing better now and didn't give up on cosplaying..
In what sense are you saying "weird"?
If its holny, then its also her fault.
@@nightowl5332 How in the fuck is it her fault? Like I said her cosplay was not sexualised in the absolute slightest.
Yea that was “The incident” that I talked about in the premiere chat turns out skymin specifically avoided mentioning that but we all know it
@@shizar1072 whoops, i read "with" instead of "without".
Sorry mate
@@nightowl5332
OP: "-just her in a normal 1 to 1 costume of the medic without any changes to make it more feminine or "sexy" "
You: "if it's about being horny then its her fault too"
look me in the ass and tell me you being fr rn chief
My favourite thing about the scout bag complaint is scout canonically doesn't wear a bag a lot like in expiration date and the comics. So yes it is still an accurate scout it isn't welded onto his skin
Femscout literally has a different shirt (there's a collar) to original Scout and yet people call you Femscout 💀
also longer handwraps
12 years cosplayer veteran from Thailand here, yes this community is...indeed very toxic.
Not to mention the creepy stalker, the critique, and other types of toxic people in this community.
Thailand is such a great country 🇰🇷❤️🇹🇭
@freshnewcungadero I agree! Many [great deals] and [[good company!]] And the food...better than what [Doctors hate him! One simple trick to] makes!
@@RealestKinga spamton
Honestly you could just call this video "Cosplaying as a Woman in general is FRUSTRATING"
100%
Not a woman but have interacted with the scene a bit
and the general reaction to female cosplayers is pretty bad
Not dressed up slutty enough - You should choose a more revealing cosplay
Dressed up in too revealing cosplay - Ughh there just trying to get attention from horny men
Like I get it , Ive seen to many Low effort cosplays of succubus's getting attention from some truly amazing cosplays (Mainly at Japanese events tbf)
But a cosplay can be both revealing ( meant to draw a viewers gaze in a sexual way ) and high effort
And don't get me started on the entire boys cosplay vs girls cosplay shit
- Boys cosplay is better because MEN
-Girls cosplay is inferior because WAHMEN
Yeah, because most women cosplay just as a reason to dress up as hооkеrs, so there gets to be a stereotype.
Don’t cosplay a dude as a woman. It’s kind of a dick move. How would you feel if a dude cosplayed Lara Croft? You’d be upset, wouldn’t you?
@@TheImaginedOrder0 why would someone be upset at a guy dressing like a girl character
@@hello_ree Because it’s a FEMALE character. There’s plenty of male characters to cosplay. The same applies here.
Speaking as a Touhou cosplayer who is still a bit masculine looking… cosplaying as 2hus outside of Touhou spaces have been pain. I’ve definitely gotten lot of stares while at conventions. But man, I just wanna cosplay as a cool female character with a cute dress. Living in Bible Belt, I can’t wear dresses that often.
I used to love cosplaying TF2 because anyone could be the characters. There could be multiples of the characters and your face, body, race, gender didn’t have to be the same as the character. I used to cosplay Medic, even though I’m Asian. You should be able to cosplay any character you want.
Exactly, I'm black but I would definitely cosplay as Soldier or Engi
Male? Female? What's the difference, we're Mercenaries!
Killing for gravel is a gender neutral activity
Going to get in here early and say thank you for the opportunity to be a part of this video :) I know people with have opinions on the topic but I'm proud of you for talking about it as I know it isn't easy :)
I absolutely adore the TF2 cosplay community and I am so happy it's still around and actually growing and thriving even after all this time
You look incredible in all of your cosplays and I cant wait to see what you create next (Not sure there's anything that can quite top Francis the talking France though)
💖💖💖
Your Tracer/Scout combo look blends them both perfectly.
@@toakongu1agreed
Yo i thought your cosplays were awesome and especially funny for the sink sniper pic, you definitely nailed that sniper pissed off look!
i farted out pee
Incredible insight on what it’s like to be a female cosplayer. This video did a great job coming of as informative instead of just ranting (though I could still tell this subject matters to you). Well done
The people who expect a cosplay to be sexy, are the same people to say "Yes, This red bikini top and grey bikini bottom is a Femscout cosplay :) "
Sounds like some people out there need to go touch grass
The only thing they have touched is cosplay material
Bro some of us are touching grass while being toxic online at the same time. Ever heard of multitasking?
@@IPS-bk2wr Most passive aggressive comment I've ever seen. 💀💀
@@IPS-bk2wr bro needs to open his window and air out his room
@@IPS-bk2wr You're still miserable.
Cosplaying as a trans woman has it's own difficulties. I mean, I can barely play the game without getting kicked from the match simply for existing, but then i get EXTRA judged by people for wanting to cosplay male characters because inherently they see me as different to cis women, like somehow just because I changed my gender im now just not allowed to present as the opposite one in COSTUME???? It's so stupid
I had to stop playing tf2 because of this reason. Everrry time I used voice chat I'd get kicked.
Same. This is why I’ve never done cosplay even though I’ve wanted to for awhile. I’m grateful that uncletopia has been an inclusive space to play in
That's a problem you have to deal with cause you chose to be that. You can't force people to accept something that affects them when you are present. It comes off has ungenuine and selfish.
@@SyLuX636please tell us how someone existing in your vicinity is them affecting you
@mothichorror446 we have to completely change the way we speak for you, and talking about anything is a minefield. We have to be nice to ya, or else we instantly get demonized.
Im a 6'4 pale Englishman, and you've given me the confidence to cosplay as the Demoman, Lucio and Mr T.
you're a very brave individual, I applaud your bravery in doing this.
If you ever do the Lucio you're contractually obligated to make any footage of it have wubs in the background soundtrack
@@Crainiac0_0he's British, idk what makes him brave. British people do this all the time, and they're barely brave. Having nuance is the true mark of bravery.
I am a guy and I never even realised this. I had always seen female mercs as new characters as oposed to genderbends in general. For instance, to me I had always imagined the cut female spy design as a spanish femme-fatal, while the fem scout designs look a tad more serious than our current scout is. And Granny demo dosn't look like she drinks, like at all.
In the end people should dress as what they want as long as it's not harming anyone, including themselves.
okay I have to, HAVE TO say this. Granny Demo is a wine drinker you cannot change my mind--
It always facilitated me how people think it's necessary to draw these artificial lines and boundaries to whether or not you are "allowed" to cosplay something
This whole video covered the gender aspect, but theres probably a similar discussion to be made about races and body types
So uuuh... just let people have fun with silly costumes
I had the same damn reaction when I was cosplaying as RED Scout at my local convention as a tween 😭 I feel your pain.
Amazing scout cosplay by the way!!
Femscout wear a skirt and has longer sleeves, the idea that "any woman dressed as scout must be femscout" is irritating, they look so different
I see cap, red tshirt and pants and I think
"DAS A SCOUT!"
I see gaping mouth, unkept neckbeard and soylent and i think "DAS A SOIJAK" LOL!
@@user-nn9gl6rv3h I see bipedal ability, feathers and a beak and I think
"DAS A BIRD OF A SPECIES AND GENUS I DO NOT KNOW"
same lmao
Honestly communities will always put a high expectation for you to look a certain way when cosplaying anything and will get mad instantly when seeing something out of place, Whether it be your sex or your skin color.🐱
yes, thats the problem.
'...When I heard the first sentence, my anger was triggered... If a female cosplays as a male or a male cosplays as a female, it does not mean they're a feminine male or a masculine female.
Cosplaying someone or something of another gender does not mean that that cosplay becomes gender-bent to fit the person cosplaying.
Oh, this has triggered me today and will hope for the best that this will change. ' - Chrome
Friendly reminder that the voice actor of Miss Pauling made a video years ago where she cosplayed as every TF2 character, simple times where nobody object...
the thing that frustrates me the most is that at the end of the day, cosplay is a form of self expression, and so many people forget that. like there's usually /some/ intent to go for accuracy when making a cosplay in general, but we do it for fun and because we like a character, regardless of if you are the same gender or race or skin tone or height or size. one of my favorite parts of cosplay is seeing all the different versions of a character by different people and the unique spins that were put on their designs n all that.
I thought it was pretty obvious it was scout. FemScout has a skirt. Not pants. Usually.
Atleast the ones I see in the SFM workshop.
She also has a different type of shirt collar than the male scout too.
i feel like cosplay consistently has an issue with knowing of the individual doing the cosplay and the cosplay itself, which can be pretty demeaning when people's individuality is ignored because it's 'part of the cosplay', but the real takeaway is that scout's short sleeves are rolled up.
Thanks for making your thoughts heard on a platform as big as yours. This is a concept I've tried explaining to people in my own community and never felt like I could get through to folks.
The intro is like when dr. Hibert was dressed as dracula for halloween, but everyone tought he was blackula
This makes me think of how lucky i'm to always come across nice men and that are actually interested on my cosplay at the conventions
Dude, Sky’s Gibus Scout is just peak. I got almost distracted by the cool goggles wtf
Im a simple man, i see gibus google, i pick cloak n danger and say mine now
Goddamn, man, no one deserves that level of harassment. This is a great response, honestly. Don't let the idiots and creeps of the internet get to you. They're everywhere, and some will NEVER understand or stop commenting, so it's best to just ignore them for the most part, because nothing you say will get through their thick skulls.
Yeah, you have some incredible cosplays. I've always seen your RED Scout and BLU Medic with the Vintage Tyrolean cosplays the most, but MAN, I didn't know about the other characters you've done. That's honestly one of the coolest Saxton Hale cosplays I've seen, like, it doesn't even matter that you don't have the build. It's so damn creative and smart with the flesh-colored tank top and chest hair over it. It really makes me want to see you do the rest of the mercs in your own style. Especially Soldier, IDK if you've done him yet.
Just watched the most passive-aggressive Scout ever. Then again, you also swore and talked inhumanly quickly (I know it was sped up but I don't care) so 10/10. And good job on the swimming!
I like all your cosplays and it's pretty clear regardless of gender that you're the OG version of the merc, sometimes with some cosmetics.
Womann: **exists**
Cosplayers: "And I took that personally."
Every male in a six mile radius defaulting to "heh, I'm not like those weirdos, I respect women! Of course I still view every woman as a potential partner but still!! I'm not a superficial creep like other guys...btw what's your socials let's be besties teehee"
@@RealestKingaEvery redditor*
the gibus scout picture really brought out the feeling of seeing a gibus scout
"seduce me" is a direct tf2 spy quote from an official valve creation, it's definently a joke.
As a female, i too would love to cosplay as more male characters. I cosplayed as Wrench from Watchdogs 2 and nobody knew that i was a chick. It was fun.
It's honestly unfortunate that this behavior in the TF2 community is unsurprising to me.
People should be able to cosplay what they want, and dress how they want just because they like a game.
This is a really good video, and it's good that someone spoke up about this. Continue doing what you're doing.
"The gender could use a touch up" 😭😭😭
ah of course! my bad! let me just get a bunch of surgeries to be a guy just for a cosplay, should've thought of that before
some people man
Bro thinks that people have a magic avatar creator
Its almost misogynistic that people decide to tranvestigate any woman that doesn’t have stereotypical features/interests.
Kinda sucks alot
I've been in the TF2 community for almost 14 years now, starting when I was 14 myself, the community has gotten better with age, but some areas definitely do need to grow up a little.
Nah, this is a Cosplay problem than a TF2 problem. He'll most people don't even know about Fem scout. So when a female cosplays any Mercernary to them ots a genderbent cosplay.
The unwanted sexual comments that come with it too…never a moment’s peace.
"I'm a force of nature"
What did you expect? A costume doesnt change anyone elses sexuality... Thats also the reason, that i am not attracted to Trans-women, with beards (or without beards) XD
@@felixmeier3298 tf are you yapping about? If you don’t have the discipline to not be a sexual harasser I suggest you go to jail atleast theirs people who are more receptive of you in their.
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle Well, someone is grumpy... Shes still a girl, so some people will still be attracted to her, or make sexual remarks, thats just how some people are. How do you come to the conclusion i am one of them? Why imply that? Whats wrong with you? Thats f-d up dude... people have no chill...
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle how did you get 3 upvotes?! XD
All i said is that people like that exist, and because she is a woman, she will get targeted by some s*xual comments, wich really isnt a surprise, we are on the internet. BUT I spoke about attraction and you confuse it with s*xual harassment XD Learn how to read and what different words mean... I am not for s*xual harassment and also never took part in it... smh... i wanted to make a point that people that cosplay as "men", dont change gender and people that harass them, dont care if she is dressed as a man.
Your costume is inaccurate, there is no Boston accent and you haven't ran fast enough.
maybe she needs to try the energy drink from peter griffin
I love this joke 😭
This lokey reminds of this one black guy who cosplayed Luffy. And people kept calling him monkey D. Instead of Luffy and when he called them out for being racist, they just got mad and said it's Luffys name
as another scout cosplayer that is a girl. THANK YOU.
When the Uncle Dane cosplayer showed up at first, I audibly went “holy shit, Uncle Dane”. The End.
I agree with all you say!
I've been down this route to. I like to wear dresses or normal clothes (as a guy) and people just don't have any kindness. "Your not manly enough" or "why don't you wear it constantly if ur gonna wear it". Since when did clothing have gender norms???
The comments you shown on the video and the ones people are posting here really shows how infuriating it can be to just be a woman on the internet. These people do not understand the feeling of having to hear "You are just victmizing yourself" whenerver you talk about a problem or being afraid of creepy comments every time you post a photo of youself. People need to be more emphatic and go outside
Yeah. A lot of people are willingly ignorant.
I quite agree with all that you said in the video. I'm a girl and I've been thinking about cosplaying as a scout for a while now... I just haven't done it due to lack of time to put it together and out of embarrassment, I was afraid that others were going to criticize me for it.
On the other hand, I screamed "OMG RAZPUTIN" out of excitement when I saw your cosplay of the minute 8:59 ^^ it made me feel genuinely happy!
8:33 that smile is terrifying and accurate. Sent shivers down my spine
pov: I just stole your skeleton
Being a woman in the TF2 community in general is frustrating. I always see players saying in the chat that 'women don't exist' and it's annoying. I know that it may be a joke, but it's still hurtful. Yes, there are female TF2 players. Yes, some of us may not be as good as most players. But guess what? There are male players who are also not good at the game. But I have fun even if I'm bad at the game. Even in 2024, there are still members in the TF2 community who are misogynistic. Not all of them are, obviously, but it doesn't make me feel safe.
A few years ago, I was cyberbullied on a community server just for being a girl. They said the usual things. 'Go back to the kitchen', 'make me a sandwich'. And at some point, they went so far as to tell me to kill myself. It traumatized me so bad that I really was feeling suicidal. That's why for a long while, I would just play in practice mode. Nowadays, I do play on casual servers, and keep a low profile.
I’m very sorry those players told you such horrible things. FPS games have such terrible people sometimes
Sorry you had to go throw this, they probably just project those jokes and that additude towards women because they themselves never had a female friend or a girlfriend. It hurts to never have someone you can love, but that shouldn't poison other people's lies. I hope you'll have a great time at tf2
Yeah, I understand you. I’m a woman myself, and I’ve had to deal with men saying that “you can’t like TF2/Valve games, because you’re a woman!” It’s utter nonsense, because they don’t have girlfriends or female friends. The only women who want to get within 3 feet of them are their female relatives.
Mass murderers are usually gamers yknow
Tbh, this is kinda why I use a gender-neutral name or some silly name. Only 1 time I got someone asking if I was a girl but I didn't reply cuz I left the server asap after the match. Even when I used VC, never had a "is that a girl?!" in chat or VC
6:51 actually, you can! Not a very large one, but technically, hrt can allow you to grow one, if you want to. And there are also surgical options. But you don't need it to cosplay as TF2 characters. I am not much into TF2 lore, but I would be surprised if there are official souces stating the genitals of each character. So pp is exactly as lore-accurate as no pp.
Though, It would be difficult to argue that you could gain the attribute of being from Boston, that late in life. At leqst in the way I assume you meant it in this case.
I'll admit, I was one of those people who just assumed that every tf2 cosplayer who was female was doing a fem cosplay. I think it was more because I couldn't tell the difference between the fem costumes and the original costumes. I just assumed based off the person's gender whether or not it was a fem cosplay. I also assumed that women cosplaying as male characters would be more comfortable as their female counterparts. Don't get me wrong, I am a TF2 player(at a measly 1000 hours), I am very familiar with each merc and what they look like. Thanks for talking about this! (p.s. Your Korra cosplay looks friggin amazing)
this is honestly the first time ive heard about this type of problem tho im not really in the cosplay community as many others i normally stay out of it because if i cant take part of it i feel like i wouldnt be a very good part of the community if that makes sense i just like to admire when someone gets a character accurate or just what people make as a whole
You don’t have to cosplay to be apart of the community or enjoy what comes out of it!
What do you use for scouts bandage hands? I've been wanting to cosplay as him for a while but I can't find anything.
They’re boxing hand wraps. Please never use sports tape. It’s not reusable and doesn’t breathe. Boxing hand wraps are 100% the way to go because they’re made to be reusable and engineered properly stay on and be breathable.
thank you so much! love the content, the cosplays, all of it. keep it up!
It's great you've touched on this topic. I've seen a few controversies online where TF2 fans just go over the top in poking and harassing female cosplayers. Either directly or indirectly. It's something that does need to be addressed, as well as the lack of respect to female TF2 fans I have seen in general.
Also - OH MY GOD that sun-on-a-stick prop is AMAZING- Did you make it yourself or was it commissioned. Because I NEED one!
9:00 WAIT, you're that Raz cosplayer!!! I've wanted to cosplay him for a while and I was sooo surprised to see so few cosplays for him. I remember looking at yours when I was searching for ideas on how to tackle his helmet. Never did cosplay him, but it's neat seeing you now that I'm into TF2!
Tbh I feel like most of the people who get mad about you doing this are transphobes.
If we lived in a polite society, these chucklefucks would be banished to the woods expeditiously.
Now you are the one being mad saying nonsens bruh
Nah I think they’re just sexist, no need for a new word.
Beep boop, as a robot, I agree with this message.
Wait... Guys he's not a robot, get him!
Could definitely feel ya channeling the scout here at 8:00
In all seriousness tho your cosplays are incredible, and I’m rather annoyed that this is a problem in the first place. I hope in the future we can endeavor to solve it tho.
Hope ya have a nice day!
I don't understand how people say you are ugly or how you say you aren't attractive?? You look not only normal but very pretty! HOW CAN ANYONE SAY YOUR UGLY?? Im so confused
As someone who did not play with those mods, I would guess FemScout if presented with it as an option (=choosing between Scout and FemScout). The reason for me is the ponytail which I don't remember Scout having. But it is something that can be in-game cosmetic (is there? if not, why?).
But otherwise, yeah Scout. Better than I would do it :)
Thank you for talking about it.
I am glad you are not getting too many shitty responses (and pics).
how can it be so hard when you do it so flawlessly!🎉 love seeing your different cosplay outfits and always looking forward to seeing your next creations! thank you for aharing your passion and talent with the world! i expect great things from you in the future! also just heard the backpack hero song int he background when i watched the video intently
I've been cosplaying for a fare few years now and never had a negative interaction (but i know it will happen one day), i always strive to be the nicest person to everyone i meet and hearing this kinda broke my heart, to know that people can say things like that is sad...so to whomever might read this dont let some jerk ruin your fun, keep your head high and cosplay whoever you like!!!
17:59 tracer scout also know TROUT
Also you helped me get inspired to make a tf2 cosplay thank you and I hope your channel continues to grow and GROW!
Great video. Thank you for informing and educating those who may not have realized they were being disrespectful.
can i be male-femscout?
Yes.
ooooooh please cook
A femboy femscout? Now that’s something I’m curious to see!
No, you obviously have to learn to double jump to become a Scout cosplayer!
4:35 you not only cosplayed as scout, you did one of those gmod faces perfectly☠️
Tf2 tends to have the best and worst humanity has to offer. Keep doing what you love hun.
Yas slay queen🥺💋💕👄💄
And then there's the double standard to it - I have cosplayed female characters, yet not ONCE have I heard 'oh it's Millia Rage as a guy' or 'MascBaiken' because it seems the chronically online side of the cosplay community only cares when it's a woman doing it. In fact, whilst it seems from what I've noticed that women get called out for/insulted for minor discrepancies in outfit or just cosplaying a male character, I've only ever gotten laughs and compliments for it, which is both a sad double standard and a reminder of why I generally keep my cosplay to events and away from the internet, and tend to stick to cosplaying men when I do want to post something because I'm conscious of the discrepant reactions.
The thing about voice is so real, one time some dude in a games voice chat was being a weirdo like “there needs to be more women in this game” and like said “mommy” when he saw a woman in game so I just had to sit there wondering wtf would happen cus he legit said he thought I was just some preteen boy
Good video on addressing this topic. Though at the end like you said it's just your opinion and how you feel about this. I think generally like you said, this has been a thing for about 10 years now, you should already know that these people are weird. And they'll continue to be weird thanks to the anonymity of the internet. So what I'd say is, don't let it get to you.
People who understand cosplay will know that it's just cosplay of Scout or whatever other class/character, and if not they'll just ask. The weirdos are just gonna straight up assume.
Absolutely fire video! Loved you had the bravery to speak out about this :)
“Can I smell your feet”…Im sorry WHAT THE HELL!?!
This is a really good video and I'm glad someone has made a video on the topic. Also I think the guy in the top right corner at 13:58 might just be British since "Smashing" means like "Good" or "Excellent" over here
Damn, I feel this, it's one of the reasons why I struggle to get myself to cosplay in public spaces.
Props to you Skymin. Your Saxton cosplay made me spit out my drink!