Shaping Up the Saga
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- Опубліковано 22 лис 2024
- (I'll be traveling this weekend, so releasing this devblog a day earlier than usual.)
The WolfQuest Saga* has been in beta-testing for five months now -- plenty of bugs to find and fix, but we're also making hundreds of improvements too. Many of these improvements are suggested by our beta testers, so in today's devblog I'd like to look at a few of those.
1: Companionship with a sick pup. We added companionship long ago to give players some chance of helping their pups recover from sickness. But it can feel burdensome as gameplay. You feel like you really should spend all your time with that pup, but you also have things to do! So betatesters suggested adding a cooldown, similar to social emotes. This has been a great improvement: you can put in some time with your sick pup, but you don't feel guilty if you then go off and hunt and maintain territory. We limit companionship to two game-hours per day (five realtime minutes) before the cooldown hits.
2: When you have yearlings and older offspring, any packmate can decide to go on a hunting excursion. They invite other wolves, including your wolf, by whining. But it can be a bit hard to know who is planning to go and who's planning to stay. So beta testers suggested indicating this "planning to go on excursion" mindset in Pack Info. We created a small double-pawprint, which appears next to the name of those packmates. And then once on a trip away from the homesite, a larger pawprint icon appears there in Pack Info. This gives more clarity to each packmate's situation.
3: Fights with rival wolves can get pretty wild, with packs of eight or more wolves involved. In fall and winter, pups of the year are involved in these fights, and their older packmates get upset if you bite one of those pups, so it's important to know who's who. So we implemented a beta tester suggestion and added a small yellow dot on the Fight or Flight meter above those pups. So you can go in knowing that you're risking a more vigorous response if you bite one of them.
4: Pup raids by competitors can theoretically happen at any time -- but from the start, we prevented them from happening while the player-wolf was sleeping. This of course narrows the window for attacks considerably -- not when you're sleeping, and not when you're away from the homesite. That really leaves only a few game-hours each day -- and so raids often appear soon after you wake up. We've gotten complaints about that over time, so decided to finally solve it by allowing raids to wake you up from sleep. We put in some constraints, ensuring that you get at least three hours of sleep, and this change did solve the problem. This new feature didn't bother many beta testers -- you get woken up, fight off the raiders, and go back to sleep -- but some beta testers really, really hated it. So after trying to finesse it more, we finally disabled the feature, and again limit raids to your waking hours at the homesite. That's why we test things in private beta before releasing them!
5: Playing with your pups. As your pack grows, it's fun to watch your pups and older offspring play together. In fact, it's so fun that beta testers felt rather left out of the fun. They really wanted to be able to join in -- at least doing the playful, bouncy trot. So we added that (pressing B key on the keyboard toggles on this gait on and off). And furthermore, we enabled a special playbow that packmates often use when inviting others to chase them. So when you're in this bouncy/playful mode, if you do a playbow, your wolf will do this Invite Chase playbow. So now you really can be part of the fun.
All this is coming soon in the WolfQuest Saga -- later this year!
The upcoming WolfQuest Saga is "the rest of the game," where your pups grow up as you have a new litter each year. Time will continue progressing through the years until you die. We expect to release it later this year (but we have not set a release date).
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The WolfQuest Saga will continue! Stay tuned for more news in upcoming devblogs about it and other new features!
We do not announce specific release dates. We will release them when they are ready.
OH MY GOD THE PLAYBOW AND GETTING TO JOIN IN ON CHASEY GAMES MY HEART IS SO CONTENT OMG
FR AAAA
I'M SO EXCITED FOR THAT!!!
I know! I've been quietly wishing for that ever since they showed the first bouncy packmates back in the Yearlings video.
I GOT CHILLS AND SQUEALED ITS SOOOOO CUTE
IM SO EXCITED IVE ALWAYS WANTED THAT
To the person who felt left out: thank you so much for the suggestion for this feature!
edit:
How come I turn my back for a sec and suddenly have 1K likes??? Thank you guys so much 😭
FOR REAL its amazing 😭😭
Yes Im super grateful for this feature to be added, thanks to this beta tester too. Thank you, beta tester and WQ Team.
FR TY BRO YAY NEW ANIMATION
@@LittleHi04 REALLL
Does anyone know if you take your pups to the Rendezvous site, that you will still have the update?
Friendly reminder that the year is almost over so "later this year" is MUCH sooner than we realize
i know riiiight, canr wait!!!!
exactly. we've been hearing it for so long now we're gonna be so surprised when it comes out within a month or two!!!
Unless they push it back for further polish. When it comes to game dev these types of deadlines aren't set in stone.
@Raptorworld22 they also almost never push anything back. In fact I can't recall a time when an update didn't come out around the time they said it would.
That's the main reason Dave doesn't give exact dates.
maybe it'll be our christmas present😁😁
This is really welcome news at the moment. I’ve been needing some positivity
was just thinking the same, hope you and everyone else are doing okay :]
@@viewer_discretion0 Agree, appreciate you. Stay safe and spread love everyone.
We really all do.
I have too. Good thing wolfquest is perfect for that!
Same
Little do you know, people are going to be doing, “Only Bouncing” challenges once the Saga gets released lol
Ah hell no XD
Hahahahaha
God we need this right now
YAY WE GET TO GO BOUNCY BOUNCY!!
Oh gosh the bouncy play mode is so cute!!! I'm so excited to see that in the game. It would be really cute I think if there was also a "sneeze" emote added, since canids often sneeze to show when they're just playing or as an apology for too harsh a bite or something! Especially if you accidentally growl at a pup...
omg a playful growl would be great too!!
Omg I do the accidental growl all the time 😭
@@angelofkarma74yeah like what the pups do 😂
@@thespuddypotato same! And i always feel terrible after because they didn’t even do anything 🥹
@@angelofkarma74like roar grrr that dogs do
well, at least we have wolfquest
Fr😢 if Trump doesn't ban video games like he was talking about tho
@@Meowmawo WHAT
@@kookycoconut ...he's obviously not going to ban video games
@@Meowmawo shame he won't. people like you would benefit from having to go outside and socialize instead of sitting and doomposting about silly things
@@catvoncatbro why’d u attack them 😭
I needed some good news today. Thanks for uploading, guys!
Exactly. This brighten my day a little..
4:10 I have been wanting this forever. I always pretended to chase my pups around, but they didn't really seem to notice. This new update made me so happy I genuinely squealed. The little bounce is adorable!!!!
I love the fact that these beta testers are making sure we actually feel integrated into the pack and not just the leader. More game mechanics to feel among the pack would be even better!!
Yess more interactions with pups 😭😭😭 MY LIFE IS YOURS
why does this remind me of one of the running jokes in the epic the musical fandom? *suspicious eyes*
The timing of this post was so perfect thank you thank you thank you I really needed this right now
Dear devs, please don't omit the idea of predator attacks waking you up. It's realistic, so it would suit realism play well. It would be pretty neat if there were sliders or options to choose from to tweak the gameplay style (like with the death of sick pups) for more laid-back players, hardcore realism gamers, rps and the ones in between. A simple "predator attacks wake you up" on/off button is enough for this feature. It will make the game a lot more fun for a wider range of players. I recommend checking the ratio of attacks on pups during the season in real life and scaling it appropriately to the gameplay seasons.
WAKE UP! WOLFQUEST HAS JUST UPLOADED!!!!
IM AWAKE
IM UP
IM UP
IM AWAKE!! IM AWAKE!!!!
I'm up
The game is feeling more and more alive with each update. I could have only dreamed of this game being what it is today back in 2010. I can't tell you how excited I am for the saga to release!
Ikr!! So long ago I was like "y'know what would be pretty darn epic? If you could actually have a pack". Man did I flip with joy when saga announcement came
My family doesn’t get that when I’m explaining the game. Lol my big sister just said “you have notifications on for WolfQuest?” 😂😂 yes lol & I’m 29
The predator attacks waking you up thing sounded scary but… oddly exhilarating lol? I understand it could be pretty stressful for players so I get why you decided not to go with it, but honestly the idea of a pissed parent wolf going after a predator who interrupted their nap is hilarious 😂
I think I speak for everyone when I say we need Wolfquest posts more than ever now! Thank you dev team for all the hard work you put in!!
Like a lot of people are saying I needed this today. Thanks for posting ❤we will keep fighting for the wolves and everything else.
Really needed this today, it’s like the WolfQuest team knew what was up 😭😭
I think they knew. A lot of them have families too.
Yay, we can boing and invite chase! I've been quietly wishing for this ever since I saw the first instance of bouncy back in the Yearlings video.
Suggestion: Toggle in the options for whether you want to allow raids while asleep.
That sting when you got woken up was TERRIFYING, I love it.
seconding that suggestion!! i love features like this that add to the realistic sense of danger you'd expect being a wolf, would love for it to be toggleable
THIRDING THIS SUGGESTION
It would be such a nice feature while also allowing those who do not wish to be woken up to be able to just switch it off! :D
Frothing IT!!!!
The bouncy mode makes me so happy!
My sister and I have been playing Wolf Quest together and are waiting for the saga!! We only ran into one bug in the game right now
OMG same!! Unfortunately we don't have the recourses to play multiplayer yet anyways but it's actually kinda cool to see other sisters bonding over this game ❤
Just found a bug recently too! I raised a pup to adulthood with one of the "unlockable" skins but when I try to adjust their howl or their size, I get the warning "raise a pup with this skin to unlock it!" and am unable to save anything.
@wolfwriterRodger That sucks! My sister and I got chased by another pack into our territory, and they killed us both. They just kept howling on our bodies and insta killing us when we tried to get up.
@@Liv-qx7tq You need to wait until they're out of sight before trying to get up. If you wait long enough, you should have enough time to get up and out of their territory! Hope this helps ❤
@wolfxxyufzboi376 Yes, I know, but they just sat on us and howled for like 10 minutes, and we didn't even try to get up. It was just a game bug, but thank you for the help!
WOLFQUEST POSTED!! Thank you so much for posting, this is the pick me up I needed today.
So excited was not expecting a dev blog on my birthday but this was an amazing surprise and a great dev blog. I have been wanting more pup interactions for a long time so I am so excited!!!!
Happy birthday!
Here's to helpful mates and healthy pups.
happy birthday!
Happy womb escape day!
Happy belated birthday!
A WEDNESDAY UPLOAD? Was not expecting that but I am not complaining
i can understand why the testers didnt like the feature of being forced to wake up due to an attack but i kinda really liked it! the idea anyway, i suppose the idea and actually experiencing it may make you change your mind but i feel its a shame that idea got removed. But either way no big deal i just love everything you do!
Everyone say thank you wolfquest dev team
WAKE UP EVERYONE WOLFQUEST POSTED
That ship have sailed mate
I just squeeled from exited at the sight of this video because I'm so exited about any news from the saga.
My obsession with this game is unhealthy. Maybe one day I'll even visit Yellowstone national park (one day, far in the future...)
Mood. Visiting Yellowstone is also on my bucket list, and this game only made me want to do so evern more.
@@FerralVideo Same, ever since I found WolfQuest back in the early days I've been wanting to go to Yellowstone...19 now, might be able to pretty soon lol 🙏
I went... Lamar Canyon looks exactly the same... to a Tree. It's so cool
I went this summer. Saw wolves.. real, wild wolves. They are just as wonderful and incredible as they could be even hundreds of yards off through a telescope! Other person is right, it looks exactly the same. I saw tower fall too, I really had no idea that there’s actual rocks in the shape of pillars by the falls!
man, this is so wonderful. i remember playing the original wolfquest game so many years ago and thinking "man, this is such a perfect game! i have no idea how they could possible expand on the gameplay or improve it!" and now we're seeing in realtime as this new iteration of the game continues to become better and better. it's really beautiful to see!
I could not handle my happiness when I heard that we'll be able to bounce around like our pups 😭💕
got back home from an allergy test to a wolfquest devblog
I'm so incredibly happy we're going to have Saga so soon. It's just.. oh my god. This is amazing, thank you, all the developers and betatesters of WQ!
3:31 the starting sound of the attack will 100% get adrenaline rushing. CSNT WAIT FOR IT TO COME OUT
AHHHH WE CAN FINALLY JOIN THE CHASE W THE PUPS 😭 also i feel like the saga is going to come out on the 25th of december, since we only have 2 months left of the year and i feel like the devs would do that as a little christmas present 😂💞
They'll either do it on December 31 or December 25 (I think 25th though)
@@RANDOM-PERSON-YEA Yeaah i can't believe it's almost 2025 and well lets hope they get the game ready in-time. Since they are deailing with bugs here and there still x.x I'm so excited!
First of all, I LOVE how well you all listen to your beta testers. Really good suggestions from them, really well implemented by the team! Absolutely precious with being able to play with the pups, and good quality of life tweaks all around.
Second of all, thank you SO much for the captions on the videos, and summary in the description. I have audio processing issues, so sometimes it can be hard for me to hear what's being said without accurate captions to follow. (Auto-Generated captions can be funny, but really aren't helpful for... actually knowing what is being said.)
These are some delightful changes! I've started practicing up my WolfQuest skills again in excitement for this release. I've never had such a bond with a game before and these dev updates really make me feel like I'm part of it all! Thank you for keeping us in the loop always!
Finally we can really play with our pups!
you can play!!! And the saga is soon!! I can’t wait for the update! This was nice news with how the day’s been :)
GUYS DROP EVERYTHING YOUR DOING WOLFQUEST POSTED
Omg, the fact we will be able to bounce and play bow and invite other pack mates to a puppy chase is soooo cute! 🥺❤️
I can't wait for the saga to come out!
i am 21 and have had wolfquest for longer than i can remember. i played all through high school and im waiting patiently for whatever you guys have to offer. Love you guys keep up the good work
Ah, time to watch a WQ Dev video about the long-awaited gameplay! xD
Good luck on your travels!
i wasn't looking at the video and that hard guitar riff at 3:30 scared me so bad LOL. it definitely sounds cool but probably a bit too jarring, i see why it was rolled back! anyways, yes!! finally i can play chase with my pups too, i've been pretending to play with them this whole time! 😭
I’m really happy we can finally get chased around by our pups! I always kinda felt a little left out so this is a welcomed edition
Aaah so much fun being able to play with your pack
Now I soon can be a REAL fun parent, bouncing around like the pups instead of being serious and take care of chores 24/7 😂
FINALLY!!! WE CAN PLAY WITH PUPS YAAAAYYYYY!!!!
This will definitely be useful when trying to get pups back to the den quicker, especially when they’re scattered.
WAIT!! LET ME GET THE LOAF ACCURATE ACHIEVEMENT, Y'ALL ARE TOO GOOD!! /J
Iove you for doing such a good job!
Nice to see things coming along. Probably one of my favorite dev vlogs so far for the new features discussed and the feedback given from beta testers.
Biggest highlight for me is joining in the play chases with the pups. There's so little you can actually do with the pups besides watch, feed, and protect them- emoting too, but the emotes don't really feel all that interactive and connecting. Something like this is what I've been hoping for, interactions that make you feel close to your mate and pups. The animations are so cute and fitting as well! Awesome stuff.
Other big plus for me is the UI additions, should take out a lot of the guess-work and I think it's interesting to see what your packmates are up to.
On a side note:
I agree that the predators waking you up would be really annoying and tedious, especially if you get woken up multiple times while trying to sleep. Feels less thrilling to fight off an attacker when they only appear while you're asleep.
I propose a different solution. Allowing predators to attack when you're not home. There was a breif period just before the release of age perks where I started to notice this happening. I assume it was a bug that was patched since I have yet to see it since the release of age perks iirc. I actually really liked predators attacking when the pups were outside with my mate and I wasn't around. Now, there *were* times this happened and my mate was incapable of defending the pups at all, causing them all to die (probably why this was fixed), but other times my mate chased threats away fine while I was off doing things. Was really immersive to me and made the game world feel less player-centric.
I think this would solve the issue of not having enough predator attacks while also not just bombarding you with raids when it's least convenient. I imagine it would only apply to pups who aren't in the den when you leave.
Of course, I can see a lot of people not liking this due to the lack of control you'd have with defending your pups like this, and the uncertainty of packmate's AI responding effectively. Perhaps there could be some togglable options or an addition game difficulty to allow this? Just my thoughts anyway.
As we get later and later in the year, I get more excited. I haven't heard anything much about mobile play, I think I vaguely remember it being mentioned around the first saga log but I'm not too sure. It's shaping up to be an amazing game, I hope whoever gets to play the saga enjoys it, I'll be sure to purchase it when I have enough to afford my own PC instead of an iPad for gaming purposes if it never releases on mobile. If anyone knows of anything official (and permanent) about mobile support for Anniversary Edition please let me know!
they said mobile is coming after they finish the game
Every time a new dev blog comes out I almost always verbally squeal with excitement for what new thing will be revealed, and I can name any other game or channel that dose that for me. Keep up the good work! I am going to watch this now.
i don’t know if the posting time (out of the usual thursday schedule) was intentional but i’m glad for it
It's so awesome how well the devs know their players!
I am the player who spends all day with my sick puppy.
I am also the player that tries to get my puppies to chase or mimic my movements!
I love the new bounce option! Maybe it could apply to other emotes beyond the playbow too! Like licking a puppy on the ear or rolling more over onto your side with the roll over emote.
Keep up the great work!
I really needed this today, thank you
wolfquest devblog?? on a WEDNESDAY???? lets gooo!!!
Now THIS is the news I’ve needed today
I love the change you guys mentioned for sick pups. Losing puppies to random sickness is realistic, but from a gameplay perspective it's always been the opposite of good design, encouraging LESS activity and more AFK 'play' rather than providing any real additional challenge or engagement.
Suggestion, in that vein: the higher a sick pup's food and social numbers are at the time, the better a chance it has to survive, too. So it encourages keeping a pup well-fed and played with, making it MORE engaging rather than less. Plus it'd be more realistic, I think; a well-fed pup has a better chance of survival than a starving one! Keeping it "warm" by keeping it company (with the time limit) is also cool, but it's still afk play, so that'd be a neat change, maybe?
After the election I needed some positivity. I'm so scared right now. Thank you for this!
I think prices are gonna go down at least. From what I know.
We got this! We’ll make it
Oh my gosh! I’m so excited for the saga! I already know how amazing it’s gonna be!!! Wolf quest has come a long way. I rate the game 10/10 it’s the best game ever!
So much awesome work, it's looking great! And literally 3 devblogs left before the end of the year, so assuming we will get the announcement of the release in one of the next 3 blogs!
Probably the last blog but they may be a chance they can’t get it out as soon as they thought
The companionship is definitely going to help! I used to take the sick pup with me until I found food. Then I would let him down and hunt and eat. The pup would automatically go back to the den and I would pick him up later 😅 this way I spent a lot of time with them
I'm very glad to see the changes to the companionship boost...that was a really tough part of gameplay.
Good to see some more interactivity with the rest of the pack as well!
I wonder if we'll get the saga around christmas like a gift, just like Slough Creek 👀♥️
Now you GUY have to ADD puppy’s to the NPC packs so we can Raid them when we lost our pups to wipe future competenters
They already said that it's not happening
@@PoloWolf47 yes and one of the reasons was because being busy with pups
@Meo.Melody and the other one is that it's kind of dark to do that, and the Devs didn't want to do it
@@PoloWolf47 Maybe it’s time to take another look at this! If it makes the game feels a bit intense or dark. (I get that but) I mean it also happeneds to the player.
It also adds to diversity and different gameplay loop
@Meo.Melody i agree, I just don't know if it's something the Devs would want to do
We really needed this, thank you.
We should get the option to cuddle with our pack mates if possible, that'd be adorable
And wrestle!
Cant wait for the saga to be released
Aaah so excited! later this year is so soon since there's only 2 months left!
I love that we get to join in on the playing! So sweet! I do wish we could choose to sit with sick pups indefinitely (without cooldown) for RP/sentimental reasons.
been d ealing with a lot lately and like it has my whole life, wolfquest comes in clutch. thank you for being my happiness ever since i was a little kid. im so excited for the saga
you have no idea how much we needed this.
There is definitely gonna be someone out there who will try and beat the entire game in bouncy mode 😂
Oh my god that last feature is almost everything i want it made me squeal out loud a little 🥺🥺❤️
I don’t usually comment twice on videos BUT I AM SO HAPPY WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO PLAY CHASE WITH THE PUPS I have wanted to do that so bad ever since the most recent pup update came out.
YIPPE SO HYPED!!
its getting closer and closer, I waited for 7 years for my dream coming true!
It all looks amazing. I'm so looking forward to playing this.
I'm so glad we can play now!!! I loved watching the pups do that and would sometimes follow them as a part of the chase
November? Oh pleaseeee let the Saga release in November! (I know y'all don't set specific release dates, this is just my wishful hoping. No pressure lol)
omg yes please
Honestly what I'm expecting is Open Beta in November and full release in December contingent on how rough or polished the open beta goes.
I'm open to being pleasantly surprised though. :)
I love wolf quest! even more now we can get the bouncy bouncy chase! its adorable!!!
I personally love idea of wolves waking you up and also recently I have been thinking what if there was a harder difficulty. (brutal reality?) Then some of those features not all players agree on still could be used. (and some new ones)
Such as letting a wolf get more injuries at once. Then injuries wouldn't be just a speed, stamina, strength reduction, but oh no I could die. Or Bleeding, where just escaping rival wolves doesn't mean your safe, it could work kinda like the poisoned meat in Lost River. Maybe pups could drown again but if they had no energy? Bears could claw at the den and possibly grab a pup from inside. (I would love more danger and chance for death lol)
Just a few thoughts, anyway super excited for the saga!!
wait there’s poisoned meat in LR?
I've thought about this too! Less what you were saying, but like forced no HUD or pack menu (but still HUD in scent mode only because that makes sense) and no music or name tags or lost pup alerts anything like that
Basically extreme realism
@@That_Autistic_Trash_Rat yes, if you provoke the rancher at the cattle ranch enough, he’ll start laying out poisoned cow carcasses outside the ranch fence in hopes that you’ll eat it. You can survive eating it if you have enough health, though.
@@spacechicken527 This is just my opinion but I actually perfer HUD and the menu for realism, I mean irl I can tell when I'm tired or hungry. I love the idea of no alerts though! Imagine counting your pups and just the dread of one being lost and you don't know how far the pup's gone.
Woah this looks so cool so far! It's so surreal to see so many wolves in our pack :0
Filled with excitement!! I can’t wait to play this ASAP! Every time I get a UA-cam notification I’m silently hoping it’s an update from you guys! ❤
Yall knew we needed this today😭 Thank you devs
The special playbow feature is so cute! Thank you beta testers. It really adds to the immersion of the game and lets you play out these special parts of a wolf's life.
COME ON EVERYBODY WOLFQUEST POSTEDDDDD
I am loving this soooo much! This is like severely exciting I can't handle itttt!
I have a question though:
When the pups are yearlings in autumn, can predators attack them like they did when they were less than 2 months? Do specific raids where they target the pups?
Eagles are out of the list obviously, but what predators can attack the yearlings if they can? I was kinda confused sorry XD
Thanks to anyone who replies
I think predators can’t attack them unless your the one attacking I think the yearling have a higher risk of dying from elk then predators
thank you so much for this good news, needed atleast a little bit of positivity
GET UP, WOLFQUEST UPLOADED NEW VIDEO!
"All of this is coming later this year." Omg guys, it's already November! I think we're getting the Saga for Christmas :D
Maybe! It would be pretty great if we did but it might get held back for like a few days or something because the devs have a life and they might be out celebrating Christmas
True but exited none the less
I have a suggestion, it would be really cool if there was a list of the number of kills your wolf has made in-game like how there was in classic WolfQuest, there would be a list showing what animals your wolf has killed and how many. It would be nice for bragging rights especially if the list is then visible to other players in multiplayer.
That probably wouldn’t be a good idea because then it could lead to bullying and I’ve found many rude people on WolfQuest
@ Hopefully that can be solved with players screenshotting and reporting any bullying to the WQ team..?
@@Coyotesarecool that won’t help people will still be bullied
A new WolfQuest devblog always makes everything better. I think I really needed this. Thank you, WolfQuest.
Anybody else come back to the most recent video to get even more excited for the game? For me its this one because it looks so close to being finished and im seeing new features that i can include in my wolf stories🤩.
Literally rocking back and forth in excitement for this game.
Thank you so much for spending so much time on this and taking such care with beta testers’ suggestions! I cannot wait for this update and seeing so much love and effort put into it makes me incredibly happy :)
You guys have put a tremendous amount of work and effort into this game, it has come so far and it is looking better than ever! Very excited for this new update 👋
really needed this today, thank you so much for the early video!
I AM EXCITED FOR THIS!! It's coming along beautifully!
Oh my goodness I love that we can actually play with our pack!! Can't wait!
Lovely to hear! I’ve been getting back into Wolfquest recently so it’s wonderful to hear that progress is being made on Saga! Hoping for a good year of game development!
I wold like to see cuddling be added