Denise hates anyone disagreeing with her. Personally, I think you get much less work done in the office as you spend most of the day getting interrupted or attending useless meetings.
But what Denise is saying IS in touch with reality. People are choosing jobs that allow them to work from home, and it's literally killing towns and cities who rely not only on staff to operate, but also on customers to survive. Working from home is a lovely cosy idea, but the social and economic ramifications are hideous.
The Govt policy imposing a mandatory 60% in the office on civil servants is to combat the economic effect on transport, resteraunts, pubs, coffee and sandwich shops.
@@MatgoStyles So people should go to work in an office just so they can buy an apple and a sandwich in town for their lunch to keep the Tesco CEO receiving his millions. Good plan, Stan.
Not sure why people seem to think that those that want to work from home are lazy - most of us log on earlier and work later cause we don't have to worry about commuting. When I go into the office now it's a lot of wasting time chatting with people that keep coming up to my desk to talk to me about nonsense. Yes I get the "social" aspect of going into the office .. IT'S WORK ! We are there to work not to chat about anything and everything. If you can work from home great if not I understand that there are those that can't but don't get upset that some people in different professions can. Love covid for this - showed companies that we can work from home without issues. Better work /life balance.
When I do get to meet with colleagues in other cities who work from an office I’m reminded just how much time they waste. 20 mins there, 20 mins there, 20 mins there and it’s no wonder all the remote staff are the most productive and sharp
However, I know of people that 'log on ' nice and early but don't start for a while after the school run and putting the washing out etc, then lunch, then next school run, then kids around. Some people definitely play the wfh game. Also for some, they just do not have the work space. I have definitely been redirected to people clearly wfh that were eating,had local distractions and I suspected that people not working for the company were listening in !
@nicolastemp8173 Right, but they are suffering because the industries refuse to change. Because the higher ups refuse to sacrifice for the people who actually do the leg work.
Stacey is so right My husband worked all his life. Died at 58. My son saw this Said SOD THAT. TOOK EARLY RETIREMENT. 50 RUNS HIS OWNS Business. He does it his way No boss telling him what to do. Very happy
The only reason industry wants people back in the office is to pay for the building. They don't care about the actual worker. It's about filling the buildings, paying for the rents, justifying the existence of 'the city' and money to ultimately line the pockets of those Dyson, Alan Sugar, big boss types- pockets. If a person can do the same job from home, nagatiging the need for travel, reducing costs from thier own monthly salary and carbon foot print, saving money on lunches/ coffees and most importantly stress!! (Denise always goes on about mental health. Travel is stressful! Don't get me started on the over stimulated brain of what a neurodivergent person has to go through on a morning getting to work before they've even sat a desk somewhere other than home and then expected to be 100 % productive!). There's literally no reason to be in an office. Covid proved that. The elusive 'water cooler' moment between colleagues is utter made up nonsense. Work life balance is; work from home if the job can be done equally well from home!
Denise Welch does not like Stacey Solomon because she is not the centre of attention. And does not agree with her - the entire show was like this. Good for Stacey!
Stacey you are amazing, Denise talking again about something she knows nothing about but is adamant she’s right 🙄. I work from home and I’m far more productive now than I ever was pre covid. Wfh also i feel gives me a bit of flexibility. We shouldn’t have to work work work work and then retire at 70. A lot of the issue we see now are due to the mis management of our country by the government. They don’t care about this country they only care about themselves!!
Wow. I always thought of Stacey as more of a lighthearted, bubbly addition to the panel - but I love seeing this more fierce, opinionated side of her! I definitely respect Denise's point of view, but it seems to be coming from more of a place of ignorance. Stacey knew exactly what she was talking about and communicated her points very affectively. Welcome back, Stacey! ❤ I'm excited to hear that she has to say about more issues.
I agree with everything you said about Stacey, Denise on the the other hand need to find a cave and hide in it. Maybe she will go back in time and connect with the rest of the cave people!
I actually think this discussion was really important. The world is made up of people of all ages and generation with different ethics. It take 2 people to express their views to be able to make changes. Even just Stacey giving Denise’s head a wobble. It couldn’t be a panel where everyone agreed. Like then or not, all conversation is important.
Employers need to support the physical and mental welfare of those that work from home. In my personal experience men in their late 40s and 50s are not very good at prioritising their health and tend to be glued to their desks and screens all day. These men have huge health risks. Stacey should have her own tv show. She raises some very topical points which the majority can all relate too.
I work at the British Library and I do hybrid working - in the office twice a week and at home three times a week - for the benefit of my mental health. One of colleagues works from home throughout the week to save money. If an organisation as prestigious as the British Library allows working from home, then surely organisations that can allow working from home should allow their employees to work from home.
@@nicolastemp8173 Everyone that gets employed to office roles at the British Library gets a laptop so that confidentiality and security is maintained, as our contracts say any work relating to the library should only be on that laptop.
Work shouldn't be something we do just because. It provides a standard of living, or at least should do. It should allow people to live their lives as they see fit. If people are putting in 40 hours a week and can't afford one holiday a year or to put their kids in childcare, or even one fancy meal out a month then there is a problem with the world. We have to stop with this heroism of working without any benefits, where we congratulate and celebrate those who work and die at 50 because of ill health. We need to celebrate those who work hard and play harder. .
I agree with Stacey. My daughter always wanted to be a teacher. Is now a deputy head, teaches as well as doing her own job because the budgets have been cut so much they cannot afford to pay supplies. She works over a 60 hours week without the hours she puts in at home. No wonder there is a shortage. Same with nursing and any career you want where you have to go to uni before beginning. About time some of these careers got the recognition they deserve. Like everything unless you’re in the profession you don’t know anything. I also think people work from home if they can as the way fares and everything is rising people cannot afford to travel to work. We must all try and work together on this and provide a service that works.
Both my husband and I work from home and work life balance is great. We both work really hard in our jobs and share the chores equally. I do school drop offs and he does the pick ups. Denise needs to do more research before judging home workers and I think Stacey has it spot on. Not everyone working from home is lazy, the majority work harder and have a better work/life balance.
@@AnnemarieHolden I'm trying to point out they are not experts in anything they discuss. Most are has been actresses/singers/journalists, at least Stacey Solomon spoke some sense and I was agreeing with a few other people's comments. Yes, we all have options but I'm not being broadcast to hundreds of viewers.
My hubby works from home a few days a week & he will do things that need done ie… hoovering or washing on &hung out if weather permits & any other jobs that’s needed
My other half has worked from home since lockdown as his office shut down. He does have to work away sometimes in different parts of the country but it's lovely as the kids see him more when he is home. He can sometimes walk the kids to school before starting work or he can take a later lunch break sometimes so he can go for a walk to get himself out the house and pick the kids up from school. This doesn't happen all the time as he is busy but it's nice that he can do this sometimes. He's away 3 days this week so he won't see the kids but it means when he gets back home after them 3 days because he does work from home he can have that 20 mins the following morning walking to school with the kids instead of having to drive to an office for work. We love it personally.
I totally agree with Stacey. I work in the childcare industry and we are on minimum wage and have the responsibility of caring and educating small children. After studying to get qualified you have annually redo and update first aid and other training in your own time. No wonder people are leaving childcare for retail jobs!
Actress and presenter!!!!! What, acted in a soap 20 years ago, was a terrible short-term character in Hollyoaks and presented what a segment on Loose Women
Well said Stacey and I still think you should go back into singing, as you were awesome on X Factor!!!! I'm not being disrespectful when I say that, I just think you could sell a lot of records as you have a fab voice.
My daughters and wife all work from home and they work much harder and certainly longer than they would if they commuted in to the office. I on the other hand have to go out to work. It really is job specific, it works for some and not for others.
I agree there is a shift in work ethic and the labour force, but govt need to adapt. There’s a larger societal reason there’s this shift and they need to address it, not just resist change for the sake of it.
Some people do not have appropriate work spaces for WFH. What happens if the WiFi in your street, your house goes down for a while? Who's problem does that become ?
It's the difference between old school values and the young. Times have changed. You cannot put an old head on young shoulders. Denise wants the lime light on herself and looks at me .
Denise hates anyone disagreeing with her. Personally, I think you get much less work done in the office as you spend most of the day getting interrupted or attending useless meetings.
You are the one hating here
Need Stacey on more often to stand up to Denise and point out how counterproductive and ineffectual her endless ranting is.
Stacey talks SO much sense!! And is not afraid to speak the truth!! Instead of being a sheep she's talking real sense👏🏼👏🏼
Denise needs a reality check on how the ordinary working person lives, Stacey is such an intelligent & informed presenter
What lol intelligent 🤓😂
But what Denise is saying IS in touch with reality. People are choosing jobs that allow them to work from home, and it's literally killing towns and cities who rely not only on staff to operate, but also on customers to survive. Working from home is a lovely cosy idea, but the social and economic ramifications are hideous.
The Govt policy imposing a mandatory 60% in the office on civil servants is to combat the economic effect on transport, resteraunts, pubs, coffee and sandwich shops.
@@MatgoStyles So people should go to work in an office just so they can buy an apple and a sandwich in town for their lunch to keep the Tesco CEO receiving his millions. Good plan, Stan.
I thought they both had valid points, I also thought they got their points over without being rude being rude to each other.
Stacey, thanks for standing up for nurses.. you are 1000% right 👏🏻👏🏻
Not sure why people seem to think that those that want to work from home are lazy - most of us log on earlier and work later cause we don't have to worry about commuting. When I go into the office now it's a lot of wasting time chatting with people that keep coming up to my desk to talk to me about nonsense. Yes I get the "social" aspect of going into the office .. IT'S WORK ! We are there to work not to chat about anything and everything. If you can work from home great if not I understand that there are those that can't but don't get upset that some people in different professions can. Love covid for this - showed companies that we can work from home without issues. Better work /life balance.
When I do get to meet with colleagues in other cities who work from an office I’m reminded just how much time they waste. 20 mins there, 20 mins there, 20 mins there and it’s no wonder all the remote staff are the most productive and sharp
However, I know of people that 'log on ' nice and early but don't start for a while after the school run and putting the washing out etc, then lunch, then next school run, then kids around. Some people definitely play the wfh game. Also for some, they just do not have the work space. I have definitely been redirected to people clearly wfh that were eating,had local distractions and I suspected that people not working for the company were listening in !
It’s about outputs not hours !!!
My niece works from home. She logs in. Has lunch hours. Gets more done
100% agree with Stacey, she is a grafter and hard working mum with her feet firmly on the ground 👍🏻
Denise has lost touch with working class people. Stacey is spot on and has not forgot her roots
She is right though, industry is suffering with back logs and delays
@nicolastemp8173 Right, but they are suffering because the industries refuse to change. Because the higher ups refuse to sacrifice for the people who actually do the leg work.
Nailed it Stacey. 👌 👏👏 Denise needs a reality check .
100% agree with Stacey!
YESSSSS Stacey is back!!!!
Couldn't agree more with Stacey!❤👏 I'm sorry, but Denise is absolutely clueless!
Stacey is so right My husband worked all his life. Died at 58. My son saw this Said SOD THAT. TOOK EARLY RETIREMENT. 50 RUNS HIS OWNS Business. He does it his way No boss telling him what to do. Very happy
Sorry to hear you lost your hubby at 58😢
I’m so glad Stacey is back on Loose
The only reason industry wants people back in the office is to pay for the building. They don't care about the actual worker. It's about filling the buildings, paying for the rents, justifying the existence of 'the city' and money to ultimately line the pockets of those Dyson, Alan Sugar, big boss types- pockets. If a person can do the same job from home, nagatiging the need for travel, reducing costs from thier own monthly salary and carbon foot print, saving money on lunches/ coffees and most importantly stress!! (Denise always goes on about mental health. Travel is stressful! Don't get me started on the over stimulated brain of what a neurodivergent person has to go through on a morning getting to work before they've even sat a desk somewhere other than home and then expected to be 100 % productive!). There's literally no reason to be in an office. Covid proved that. The elusive 'water cooler' moment between colleagues is utter made up nonsense. Work life balance is; work from home if the job can be done equally well from home!
Why is Denise talking about a topic she clearly knows little of? Stacey is so much more connected to the working class. Denise is rude.
Denise Welch does not like Stacey Solomon because she is not the centre of attention. And does not agree with her - the entire show was like this. Good for Stacey!
Ha ha Denise does not like being upstaged. Go Stacey.
Stacey you are amazing, Denise talking again about something she knows nothing about but is adamant she’s right 🙄. I work from home and I’m far more productive now than I ever was pre covid. Wfh also i feel gives me a bit of flexibility. We shouldn’t have to work work work work and then retire at 70. A lot of the issue we see now are due to the mis management of our country by the government. They don’t care about this country they only care about themselves!!
Wow. I always thought of Stacey as more of a lighthearted, bubbly addition to the panel - but I love seeing this more fierce, opinionated side of her! I definitely respect Denise's point of view, but it seems to be coming from more of a place of ignorance. Stacey knew exactly what she was talking about and communicated her points very affectively. Welcome back, Stacey! ❤ I'm excited to hear that she has to say about more issues.
I agree with everything you said about Stacey, Denise on the the other hand need to find a cave and hide in it. Maybe she will go back in time and connect with the rest of the cave people!
I actually think this discussion was really important. The world is made up of people of all ages and generation with different ethics. It take 2 people to express their views to be able to make changes. Even just Stacey giving Denise’s head a wobble. It couldn’t be a panel where everyone agreed. Like then or not, all conversation is important.
Employers need to support the physical and mental welfare of those that work from home.
In my personal experience men in their late 40s and 50s are not very good at prioritising their health and tend to be glued to their desks and screens all day. These men have huge health risks.
Stacey should have her own tv show. She raises some very topical points which the majority can all relate too.
'Of those that work from home' they could go to an office where there are other staff who can offer support, as they are in the same boat.....
Denise trying to make it sound like she has a real job 😂
I work at the British Library and I do hybrid working - in the office twice a week and at home three times a week - for the benefit of my mental health. One of colleagues works from home throughout the week to save money. If an organisation as prestigious as the British Library allows working from home, then surely organisations that can allow working from home should allow their employees to work from home.
But when offered jobs, you know where they are based.... if they are office based it for a reason. Like security and confidentiality......
@@nicolastemp8173 Everyone that gets employed to office roles at the British Library gets a laptop so that confidentiality and security is maintained, as our contracts say any work relating to the library should only be on that laptop.
Well said, Stacey👏
I was wondering when Stacey was going to be back on. Love it when you are on Stacey🌸
Stacey for PM 😂
Work shouldn't be something we do just because. It provides a standard of living, or at least should do. It should allow people to live their lives as they see fit. If people are putting in 40 hours a week and can't afford one holiday a year or to put their kids in childcare, or even one fancy meal out a month then there is a problem with the world. We have to stop with this heroism of working without any benefits, where we congratulate and celebrate those who work and die at 50 because of ill health. We need to celebrate those who work hard and play harder.
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Go on Stacey! Nothing is working because we've had terrible leadership for the last 14 years! And Labour won't change much.
Go Stacey……such a sensible and realistic lady!
I agree with Stacey. My daughter always wanted to be a teacher. Is now a deputy head, teaches as well as doing her own job because the budgets have been cut so much they cannot afford to pay supplies. She works over a 60 hours week without the hours she puts in at home. No wonder there is a shortage. Same with nursing and any career you want where you have to go to uni before beginning. About time some of these careers got the recognition they deserve. Like everything unless you’re in the profession you don’t know anything. I also think people work from home if they can as the way fares and everything is rising people cannot afford to travel to work. We must all try and work together on this and provide a service that works.
Love Stacey
Denise has always been rude & loud she loves the sound of her own voice . Stacey is always intelligent & sensible.
Both my husband and I work from home and work life balance is great. We both work really hard in our jobs and share the chores equally. I do school drop offs and he does the pick ups. Denise needs to do more research before judging home workers and I think Stacey has it spot on. Not everyone working from home is lazy, the majority work harder and have a better work/life balance.
I really dont like Denise
I agree, Denise needs a reality check. Wish she wasn't on this programme. To be frank, who are all these people to give us their opinions?
So you can have an opinion but they can't because you don't know who they are
@@AnnemarieHolden I'm trying to point out they are not experts in anything they discuss. Most are has been actresses/singers/journalists, at least Stacey Solomon spoke some sense and I was agreeing with a few other people's comments. Yes, we all have options but I'm not being broadcast to hundreds of viewers.
@@AnnemarieHolden I also should have said it was a rhetorical comment, of course I knew who they were.
Get that Denise Welsh or Eddie Izzard woman off the panel she takes over and doesn't let people finish talking
Love Stacey. She speaks so much sense. Stacey for PM!!
My hubby works from home a few days a week & he will do things that need done ie… hoovering or washing on &hung out if weather permits & any other jobs that’s needed
Whilst WFH? So not working then.....
Go Stacey 🙌🏼💞
Well said Stacey ❤
I agree with Stacey 👍👍
My other half has worked from home since lockdown as his office shut down. He does have to work away sometimes in different parts of the country but it's lovely as the kids see him more when he is home. He can sometimes walk the kids to school before starting work or he can take a later lunch break sometimes so he can go for a walk to get himself out the house and pick the kids up from school. This doesn't happen all the time as he is busy but it's nice that he can do this sometimes. He's away 3 days this week so he won't see the kids but it means when he gets back home after them 3 days because he does work from home he can have that 20 mins the following morning walking to school with the kids instead of having to drive to an office for work. We love it personally.
Well said Stacey!!! Brilliant discussion ❤
I totally agree with Stacey. I work in the childcare industry and we are on minimum wage and have the responsibility of caring and educating small children. After studying to get qualified you have annually redo and update first aid and other training in your own time. No wonder people are leaving childcare for retail jobs!
Stacey is completely spot on
Why does she make it all about her. She thinks she's an expert on everything.
Well said Stacey 😊
Denise still has her knickers in a twist over covid😂
Well Said Stacey 👍🎉🎉🎉👌💐
Well said Stacey
Why is Dennis on there , she has a bad attitude
Actress and presenter!!!!! What, acted in a soap 20 years ago, was a terrible short-term character in Hollyoaks and presented what a segment on Loose Women
Well said Stacey and I still think you should go back into singing, as you were awesome on X Factor!!!!
I'm not being disrespectful when I say that, I just think you could sell a lot of records as you have a fab voice.
Stacey you talk so much
Truth and sense
Go on Stacy well said Denise is bitter and twisted I never liked her thank god Tim got out of there 😊
Well done Stacey love you
Spot on Stacey!!
My daughters and wife all work from home and they work much harder and certainly longer than they would if they commuted in to the office. I on the other hand have to go out to work. It really is job specific, it works for some and not for others.
Jane Moore is so well-spoken.
Denise. Same old misandry.
Denises face though 😆😆😆😆👍
1000% agree with Stacey!!
Go on Stacey...❤
Missed Stacey so much ❤️
Well said Stacey 👏👏👏
We love you Stacey
Yes I agree love her beautiful girl lovely personality
Go Stacy you are brilliant girl.Denise you don't stop you are wrong
I love working from home, equally as busy as I was when in the office
Your right Stacey people don't even see there pension they work till they die or get ill health and can't enjoy there retirement
Lovely stacey❤
Denise is a muppet!! Big up Stacey 🙌👍
100% Stacey with your open minded and reality check on modern living! Stay strong love you!
Love Stacey ❤
Sir Ian my previous support worker used to work from home during COVID 19
Agree 100% with Stacey x
100% agree with Stacey
Well said stacey
Totally agree with stacey
I agree there is a shift in work ethic and the labour force, but govt need to adapt. There’s a larger societal reason there’s this shift and they need to address it, not just resist change for the sake of it.
Some people do not have appropriate work spaces for WFH. What happens if the WiFi in your street, your house goes down for a while? Who's problem does that become ?
I totally agree with you Stacey and being honest
Well said Stacy 👋👋👋
I have never warmed to Denise Walsh, she loves the sound of her own voice.😮
Stacey stands up for us ordinary working people. Thank you Stacey.
This was brilliant we need Stacey on get rid of Denise she is a waste of space she needs a reality check
Well said Stacy
The gay community needs to rally around Stacey more than they do Denise, Ckah!
Oh my word I’d pay Stacey to be on the program to shut Denise up
You need to get out more
I love Stacey ! She speaks sense.
I disagree with Denise
Well said Stacey
Go Stacey!!!
Totally with Stacey!
You should still do a full day! Even wfh
well said Stacey you absolute gem u should join reform uk
Bring back Carol, love her can’t stand Denise, can’t watch loose women when she’s on it.
Well said Stacey! ❤
It's the difference between old school values and the young. Times have changed. You cannot put an old head on young shoulders. Denise wants the lime light on herself and looks at me .
Denise always has too be centre of attention .
Spot on Stacey 👏👏👏
Well said stacey!