Absolutely, I think this is a genuinely great death for Batman, he takes down a powerful foe with him and leaves a solid plan in place for the Knights to follow up on.
SS kills the Justice League isn't made by the same people who made the Arkham games, they've all already left. Hell, even the founders of Rocksteady have left.
Sushi Squad: Kill Arkham ah yeah ... the feminist stinky 🐟in the entertainment industry... Gotham Knights was still atleast a 5 or 6 out of 10 for me. But Sushi Squad is a negative 5 Also sorry... but of the "revival" of Joker... or should i say "Jonkler" - atleast Reddit has now a face for Jonkler
It's similar to everyone hating Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man before No Way Home. Then post-No Way Home their like "Oh Andrew has always been my favorite Spider-Man" So hypocritical
We don’t hate Batman dying. We hate the way he dies. Here he dies fighting against a highly skilled man who has lived for centuries sacrificing himself to protect his city and family. Suicide Squad he dies in a chair to a crazy woman smack talking because he lost. What a joke
Mainly cause this game is about the death of Batman and how that affects the world around him so the death has to have some meaning. KTJL is just about 4 idiots killing the justice league there is no meaning no deep themes just 4 idiots killing the justice league
@@charlespackowski6620 Yeah, hence why it’s even more stupid to make the game take place in the Arkham Verse, which has one of the most beloved, popular and competent Batman out there, where we played him for 4 games, and has a pretty dark and serious tone… if the goal was to to make a lighthearted fun game about killing the justice league, why use that universe? The answer is very likely marketing, but it still baffles me.
Shame too since I really love that a bloodied Batman facing death in the eye. Now if only the context was something like sacrificing himself to screw brainiac over then save everyone not harley
This game is getting destroyed in reviews and you can truly tell what reviews are from people who played it vs the people who are fan boying giving it 10/10 just to validate there fandom if anyone gives this game above a 4/10 there lying flat out
Here’s the thing, imagine you’re fighting Batman in his bat cave… the worlds most prepared superhero with backup plans for the backup plans to defeat folks like Superman, Darkseid etc etc and he loses to Rhas……… bruh the fight should’ve ended the moment Rhas entered the cave lmao
Yeah this game legit started as a joke no one is gonna take this fight seriously anyone who grew up on Batman is gonna see this and think wow ya all done Batman dirty get out of here with this trash 🤦
@@OreoKingRS Batman always has a plan for every wound but this game said lets make 1 arrow hit him then make this fool lay down like an old dog like what this is just disrespectful to everything Batman stands for those negative reviews are very much deserved
I disliked what happened to Batman but atleast have some knowledge about the games because its obvious your just raising your pitchfork because everybody else is. WB games own almost all batman games. This game was produced by the same studio (WB games montreal) that developed Arkham origins, and if I am not mistaken helped Rocksteady to make Arkham city and the Batgirl dlc in Arkham knight so I don't know what the hell you're own about "own game studio" Rocksteady only ever made Arkham asylum by themselves iirc, but I don't think batman has his "own game studio" considering he has many different games made by different studios. Perhaps you meant something elsr like "Most iconic studio" or something? Even if it wasn't it, all depends on the writers. Why should it matter if its their studio? Marvel made a bad game like avengers but Insomniac made good games like Spiderman1, miles morales and 2. Don't know why you have to exaggerate on that part. I don't think the same writers are evn writing suicide squad anymore. Btw, in the Suicide squad "ending" I am pretty sure its hinted the story isn't even over yet.
@@UromixOnthey ruined all of the arkham games dumbass, the story doesn’t line up, the gameplay is god awful, the updates are minor, and you’re defending it why? No one likes it it has an active 500players across all platforms. There is literally nothing good about this game even the animation is fucking inconsistent trash, the multiverse is trash. This story line was done right in the comics, why couldn’t it be done right here?
@@UromixOnthe avengers game has a great story and amazing ok gameplay and it had active updates during its life. This game doesn’t compare. The spiderman games weren’t for me but i don’t like spiderman in general. At least those games were character accurate with actual time spent on story, development and every side mission doesn’t take place on the same roof like KTJL
@@andrijajankovic3865 It's a solid 6-7/10 game and there's nothing wrong with it. People were hating on it way too much like it's a 2/10 game or something because they expected it to be like the arkham games. Atleast this game didn't disrespect its source material.
Batman's power scaling is dictated by the story/setting even in comics he defeated darkseid once but also got his back broken by bane there's batman THE SUPERHERO and then batman THE VIGILANTE the powerscaling depends on what the setting of the story is
@@lilreverse6095 That not true. He was definitely a seasoned crime fghter at the time and very capable of beating Bane but he had been awake for about a month and fought ever single criminal in his rogues gallery back to back the entire time. By the time he got to Bane (who he didnt even know existed) he was extremely tired. He lost because he didnt ask anyone for help over the last month so he could at least get 1 nights rest.
Fuck the fact that Kevin Conroy died less then a month after this game came out makes this death even sadder, thats probably why they didnt have his voice because he was so sick. He will always be the definitive batman for me. RIP Kevin
@@maclain728 Suicide Squad's lines were recorded before this trash's, apparently. Plus, I doubt WB could afford Conroy's cachet for two games at the same time
Really sucks that the new suicide squad game disrespected the character so badly, I would have much rather have this ending as canon in the arkham universe. We didn't know how good we had it until it got worse.
You would think Batman would have a recording of Lois in trouble, getting railed, or sneezing in case of emergencies like this lol. Play a recording and get insta-saved.
Or you can do the dignified thing and not talk about “universes”. These are just stories. None of them take place in any coherent “universe”. That’s marketing department gibberish.
You do know this game has nothing to do with the Arkham universe right? No reason to "we can just say" this DOES takes place in another (not Arkham) universe
@@JoseKarloGonzales i mean we don’t know that for sure that’s just a speculation on our part, it seems like something Bruce would do but then again who knows what Bruce is really planning
@@jamz8785 we don’t know that it’s actually Batman lmfao 🤣, the entire game batman is hallucinating joker, WHOS DEAD, I always took the ending as the fear toxin had lasting effects on criminals, and when they are committing crimes like the guys in the alley, they could act cool but their anxiety would act up, causing the toxin to activate, making them see the nightmareish Batman that appears, for all we know that’s nightwing or Robin, but the criminals see Batman. All of them were effected when the cloudburst went off, and at the end you don’t see them get sprayed with anything before we see it, so the only logical explanation is that it was them being pre exposed to the toxin from before. The entire ending has NOTHING cut in stone, Batman could vary much be alive, and doing things from the shadows, but then it makes no sense to why Alfred and him looked so sad before the manor blew up, but yes he COULD be alive that doesn’t mean he is. It’s entirely up to interpretation
I really hope they're forced to retcon SSKTJL, because I don't want to be forced to accept that a spin-off game that takes place in a seperate universe did Batman's death more cinematic and heroic than the legendary Arkham series Batman.
It really just goes to show which team really put their work towards honouring a legacy such as Batman's in his final hour, compared to KTJL. I'm so glad it won't be Kevin Conroy's last role.
I don’t think Batman blowing himself up for no reason is honorable. Gotham Knights Batman is kinda of a ***** and gets pretty much sidelined in the final boss fight. Like the real Batman would atleast help out, but no this guy is just walking around in the back like an idiot.
Same thing I was gonna say. I don't remember Ra having the power of 1,000 defeated warriors. Lol Really don't care of such drastic modification to a characters power and abilities. Such a turn off lol
This scene proved how strong Batman’s will is, he’s in obvious pain and pretty damaged, yet still took a guy with 2 knives, didn’t get stabbed with them and beat him down for at least a little and did again too. Not to mention ghul is magic
This scene proved how strong Batman’s will is, he’s in obvious pain and pretty damaged, yet still took a guy with 2 knives, didn’t get stabbed with them and beat him down for at least a little and did again too.
I always saw Batman as the prime example of what It means to be human in this world. He sees evil as a plague, but he doesn't kill because that would be make him no better than them. He looks out for the little guy, adopting orphans in the cruel world that we live in. And even if he's fictional and fake, He's still somewhat a good example to live up to.
yeah but to me he feels too idealistic and disciplined thats why i gravitate towards jason todd as red hood , i mean that the more humar reaction to stopping crime
4:48 But... why'd he stab himself with the sword just to headbutt him... he couldn't have just dragged it to the side? Ah yes, to prove a point. Coz he's still Batman.
I think he knew he had to blow up the cave to win. Didn't really see this version of Batman beating Ras the way things were going, so he probably figured if he's gonna blow up the cave, stabbing himself for shock value ain't gonna make a difference so why not lol
It’s a cool action scene, sure. But personally, I think it’s pretty weak that he died to begin with. At his batcave, a technological marvel with countless contingency plans, there should be absolutely no way he gets killed.
this cut scene would’ve been badass if the talon was involved here too batman can literally take on multiple opponents at once. i think if they would’ve thrown the talon and some of his army in here this fight scene really would’ve been something. it would’ve been batman vs the talon with a good amount of his army and ra’s. also it was really the crossbow that was doing most of the damage. also maybe in this universe the court found a way to enhance the lazarus pit thus giving ra’s more power in every way possible.
exactly. I feel like they needed to add more to emphasize why batman felt that he needed to die or setting up a situation where it made sense for him to die. Maybe Ra's decided to work with the court or something and when he turns up dead Talia thinks the court betrayed him or whatever, that would not only have gone with the plot but would gave created a situation where it fully makes sense for batman to do what he did. A scene of him fighting off an invasion of the cave, then deciding to bury everyone with him after realizing he can't stop Ra's or escape without letting them take control of the cave would have been better than him getting caught lacking by a guy hes been dealing with for years in his home territory. I just feel like they didn't do a good job in showing why batman needed to die here. If he thought he was hamstringing the league and the court before they could fuck everyone over then it made sense for him to go out like he did.
But what about the bumblezorp and the gooble tooble. Surely these catchphrases would have fixed that the script and plot and acting are all just terrible here
@@thunderborn3231 i mean, it probably was poison considering the arrow had a sort of smoke to it, usually a way for people to show something is poison in media
@@archlectoryarvi2873the squad beats Batman and carry him to a bench, Harley cuts off whatever he was going to say about basically how fucked up the villain team is, goes on a bit of a collected rant about Batman bringing Justice through the pain and suffering to others but now it is their turn to fill his shoes so to speak, then points a gun to his head and shoots him. A lot of people r e a l l y hate it.
@@breather8758 Batman can't and can Die,only his Will and legacy Keeps on going the tradition even if it means breaking Bones. Bruce Wayne and Batman is no more than the World finest Strategist, Detective, Minds and Wills
WB Games Montréal: One game in - Batman fights one of his greatest villains with everything he’s got and goes out in an epic heroic way. Rocksteady: 4 games + Origins in - Fights a motley crew of non-powered villains and gets shot in the head.
Something about this just feels off characterization wise, for both of them. Sure the action is really cool, but it just doesn't seem right for Rás to be so aggressive all of a sudden when even at his most diabolical he respects Batman, and I've NEVER seen Batman struggle physically like this against Rás, mortally wounded or otherwise. I guess "hmmm" sums up my feelings on it
i thought this was horrible when i first saw this. i now think this is beautiful. i'm still treating the ending in arkham knight as the canon ending, that was a perfect send off for batman imo
They could have gave ras powers to catch Batman off guard brought in an army made the fight playable to give the player a feeling of lose but nope they made him look weak and pathetic and put it all in a flippin cut scene this felt like an absolute insult to everything Batman stands for what a massive middle finger to the fan base 🤦
I mean I can see that but a lot of people forget that Ra's has lived for hundreds of years. Lived and thrived. Very little he hasn't seen or done. I always figured that whenever Batman won against him, it was because Ra's was either secretly testing Batman, underestimated him, or was kind of half assing it. This Ra's seemed like he was done holding back. Finally ready to put the bat down.
@@stugglefuggle8673 thought about that but thus Batman is up to Tim drake so he must be pretty old so he must have faced Ras multiple times by now so he should be used to him
@@JustinCage56 Yeah, it is. This kind of thing happens all the time, though. Something comes out and people hate it. Something even WORSE comes out afterwards, and they come crawling back to forgive the thing before that they previously hated. Suddenly, it's "not so bad" anymore. I've always found that to be a little pathetic.
Two times. They (technically) killed him two times here and those two send-offs are so much better than the one in Suicide Squad. If you actually call that thing a "send-off".
When the game first came out people was so upset they killed bat man they completely forgot how much dignity they gave him. He died a warrior. The definition of a solider. So sad that now people are going back and playing this game releasing its fun. They let little things ruin the game for em. In years time some new game will be out people won't like something about it so theyll start looking at suicide squad. Everyone hated cod ghosts, until advanced warfare. And then suddenly people who spent an entire year bashing ghost started to play it due to being burned out on bo2 and not liking exo suits. Funny how now people are angry we for mw3 instead advanced warfare. People always bitch. Never listen to any reviews or critics play the games
God dude, this game is so damn good. If it's gameplay was something closer to your average super hero game, it'd probably be super beloved. Instead it's an amazing story trapped behind, put lightly, divisive gameplay. I personally still love it to this day, it just could have been so much more.
I honestly loved everything bit of this game including the gameplay so after seeing what SSKTJL did to Arkham Batman I was so upset at what they did to him and loved this game even more
With that logic you could say that Gotham knights aged better already considering there were more silly deaths in other Batman iterations but ok, atleast it helps people stop overhating the game and see some of its potential I guess. Not that its underrated masterpiece or anything
I like how after the fiasco with suicide squad folks are coming back to apologize for their portrayal of Batman’s death which was 10x more faithful to his character than what rocksteady did.
A year ago, comments here were written by whimpering fanboys who were unhappy with Bruce's defeat (because an "ordinary human" cannot lose, lmao) Now the comment is being written by people who have managed to appreciate this finale. Unfortunately, to do this, they had to see Rocksteady pissing on Batman's corpse.
@@eliasrodriguez1419 yeah, he's proving his point and that's what's stupid. They are still fighting, but he's like "Unlike you, I'm not afraid to die. Here, let me show you by impaling myself unnecessarily." Being willing to die if there's no other option is one thing but stabbing yourself just to show you are willing to die? Dumb. Imagine an alternate scene: Batman enters a room with armed thugs. They all turn to point their guns at him and one says "I'm gonna blow your brains out, Bat-freak!" Batman snarls at him. "I'm not afraid of getting shot!" He then puts a gun in his mouth and pulls the trigger to make his point.
The actual gameplay wasn't great, but you can tell they had a lot of respect for the Arkham games and Batman in general. The whole 5 minute fight choreo was amazing and every scene involving Batman in this game.
I remember reading some comics that Batman has defeated Ra's Many times, that's why I find it surprising that he was killed on 1 on 1 combat with this Lazarus Pit addict. I player the arkham Games, and Ra's has lost to Batman in their every encounter.
You shouldn't forget that while batman won in the comics against ras that doesn't mean ras is a pushover who can't kill batman in the right circumstances. He has trained way more than batman and has way more fighting experience. And in the games batman faced ras once and batman may have won and most likely he won in their past encounters as well. But ras does want batman to replace him so he partly wanted batman to kill him. And in this encounter it seemed like ras was prepared to hunt the batman to kill him and it seemed like the lazarus pit or something else augmented his powers. So ras had the right circumstances to overpower batman.
Man, he literally faces one of his biggest enemies and he doesn't make it easy for him, he gave more than he could despite his terrible condition, and he also ends everything in an epic way. This is an honorable death for Batman, and he doesn't even have his own saga. I think it would have been better for Brainiac to kill him off-camera than that absurd scene they gave us. What a disgrace, Rocksteady.
Before Suicide Squad, I thought this death wasnt too bad. Especially with the ending (I played as Red Hood mostly). And this is such a better death, its actually treated with respect.
They're magic and enhanced stuff, normal science cant stop that. The sword visibly cut through stone and solid steel like butter, of course it could cut a bullet resistant suit
@@oliviaforrester2983 Dunno. That’s good point. Remember? Superman almost beat him but Batman wear armor suit with kryptonite which It made him more weak. He should have titanium armor suit…
That fight wasn't fair, Ras has magic, battle armor, poison arrow, and magical sword, while Batman has, light armor, gadgets but no powers. At least Batman died fighting than submit and trash talk just to get shot by Harley on a park bench.
I can't believe that Batman would lose to Ras; even though he was his mentor, I feel Batman has outgrown him in many ways; ESPECIALLY not in his own house with his weapons all around.
Gotham Knights got vindicated by history so fast solely because it was a fun game that actually gave Batman a good sendoff and felt like a DC game instead of SSKTJL.
so ive never seen anything about this series of games (i dont even know if it is a series of games or just one game in a diff universe) and im still flabbergasted about how this game treated batman's death with more respect than kill the justice league which is CANNON to the arkham verse
@@MrGN-yy6op Yeah and it was off screen too. I’m sorry but how does one of the worlds best fighters in the world die from being thrown out a window tied up to a office chair 🤣💀
@@MrGN-yy6op I have no clue man. It’s completely off screen and it just shows Bruce Wayne strapped to a chair all bloody with a cheap Batman mask put on his face after falling ten stories. Literally it’s just disrespecting the character. I have no clue how anyone thinks that show is a good “Batman” show.
Perhaps I treated you to harshly Gotham Knights.
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Yeah they're respectful with his death unlike suicide squad
@@MrThecrazyzombiethey killed off batman 3 times in the space of 1 year
Naw this game was a fumble but I fuck with suicide squad tho 🔥
Although it still make no sense how he lost at his own house, its still 100x better
Crazy how they treated batman with more respect than the actual creators of batman arkham
Absolutely, I think this is a genuinely great death for Batman, he takes down a powerful foe with him and leaves a solid plan in place for the Knights to follow up on.
SS kills the Justice League isn't made by the same people who made the Arkham games, they've all already left. Hell, even the founders of Rocksteady have left.
@@vasconcelos7356 I found that a coloured hair girl was also the part of this game in development 💀💀💀
@@pras6 um, what wrong does a coloured hair girl have in developing a game??
I knew someone would say this@@thegamingking1972
I would like to apologize to Gotham Knights for treating it too harshly.
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As would I.
No the game is still VERY bad and deserves the criticism,it just treated batman's death with respect
@@Chrono-and-CoGotham Knights is way better than the suicide squad trash
Definitely earns its criticisms, but I think the problems this game has are very overexaggerated. The game is mid to decent, not "VERY bad."
Before: “his death is trash. Arkham Batman wouldn’t lose like this.”
Now: “Perhaps we treated Gotham Knight Batman’s death too harshly.”
I mean seriously this Batman went out like a champ compared to Arkham. It’s so sad man
Suicide Squad: Kill the Franchise
@@gabrielhernandez2736 put a here at the end just for rhythm
Sushi Squad: Kill Arkham
ah yeah ... the feminist stinky 🐟in the entertainment industry...
Gotham Knights was still atleast a 5 or 6 out of 10 for me. But Sushi Squad is a negative 5
Also sorry... but of the "revival" of Joker... or should i say "Jonkler" - atleast Reddit has now a face for Jonkler
It's similar to everyone hating Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man before No Way Home. Then post-No Way Home their like "Oh Andrew has always been my favorite Spider-Man" So hypocritical
We don’t hate Batman dying. We hate the way he dies. Here he dies fighting against a highly skilled man who has lived for centuries sacrificing himself to protect his city and family. Suicide Squad he dies in a chair to a crazy woman smack talking because he lost. What a joke
Came here to say the same thing. Batman received a warriors death in this version
I dont mind harley defeating batman.. But not like how they done it in the SSKTJL, it was awful and injust with Batman. No respect
Well i still hate it that batman died but same as u say
@@mohammadhassaan8714 I actually mind Harley beating him, when joker couldn’t
He dies twice in Gotham Knights.
The second and final death is when he crashes the Batwing.
Way better than his death in suscide squad
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So true.
Yep
THIS is the cannon ending to batman
at this point, this is my Arkham batman death canon.
this isnt arkham batman but i wish it was
Yeah but with oracle and not batgirl
@@BaneStopMotion We can just say she got robotic stuff for her legs like in the comics
@@intrusivethoughts5892i think this is the batman of arkham origins, i always like it
@@giosma3156Arkham Origins Batman IS the Arkham Batman from Asylum, City, and Knight.
"Perhaps, I treated you too harshly"
*Parephs
@@retierashia that's just not how you spell it
@@localloser7415 bro you said "Peraphs" ;/
@@dr.michaelmorbius7943 oh shit I just now realized. I'm dumb af
Still a crap game
Arkham fans now: "Perhaps I treated you too harshly"
Only death was done better in Gotham knights. Rest.... both the trash anyway.
the morality of every franchise that has a fan base and 1/2 bad games:
@@TokenMCPE Exactly.....Look at Assassin's Creed, Call Of Duty, Metal Gear, Resident Evil, etc
@@atharva7462Bruh, it's medicore; not trash. Learn the difference.
Funny how Batman dies twice in this, yet both deaths were given way more respect than the one he had in the recent Suicide Squad game
Mainly cause this game is about the death of Batman and how that affects the world around him so the death has to have some meaning. KTJL is just about 4 idiots killing the justice league there is no meaning no deep themes just 4 idiots killing the justice league
@@charlespackowski6620 Yeah, hence why it’s even more stupid to make the game take place in the Arkham Verse, which has one of the most beloved, popular and competent Batman out there, where we played him for 4 games, and has a pretty dark and serious tone… if the goal was to to make a lighthearted fun game about killing the justice league, why use that universe?
The answer is very likely marketing, but it still baffles me.
And the death in the recent Suicide Squad game was better than the death of Joel in The Last of Ass 2
@@TheFoshaMan butt hurt much
@@ZColony Yeah, the butt of the Arkhamlovers, and I LOVE it
"Perhaps i treated you too harshly"
When you realise Gotham Knights treated Batman with more respect than Suicide Squad, a game that's supposed to be canon with Arkham Batman
The entire fight between those two should have been a playable sequence instead of a cutscene imo
Agreed it should have been a boss fight a tough one
Nah, they wanted the scene to play out a certain way
This I agree! Hopefully they will make a dlc story where we play as Batman and the final boss is this cutscene.
Agreed
The art book says this was actually a 12 page comic.
“You should know by now that you cannot defeat me”
Arkham Batman: I’m about to end this man’s whole career.
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Oh yes. The goat
I am eternal, and I'm batman
Arkham batman would stomp him in 2 minutes
@@ardacankzc2349 2 minutes is incredibly generous.
Yea this death at least made Batman look cool while dying instead of the suicide squad sad death where he dies on a damn bench
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Shame too since I really love that a bloodied Batman facing death in the eye. Now if only the context was something like sacrificing himself to screw brainiac over then save everyone not harley
This better than what Suicide Squad did
Totally
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This is not the Batman ending we deserved or even needed
Agreed
Atleast he got to see his parents 💀
With a clean concise
Make your own fucking story instead of whining holy fuck 💀🤦🏽♂️
This game is getting destroyed in reviews and you can truly tell what reviews are from people who played it vs the people who are fan boying giving it 10/10 just to validate there fandom if anyone gives this game above a 4/10 there lying flat out
@@Assassin-ys5vw honestly a lot of us won’t play it cuz Batman isn’t in it. Who wants to play F rated characters….unless Red Hood
Here’s the thing, imagine you’re fighting Batman in his bat cave… the worlds most prepared superhero with backup plans for the backup plans to defeat folks like Superman, Darkseid etc etc and he loses to Rhas……… bruh the fight should’ve ended the moment Rhas entered the cave lmao
No cap
Yeah this game legit started as a joke no one is gonna take this fight seriously anyone who grew up on Batman is gonna see this and think wow ya all done Batman dirty get out of here with this trash 🤦
I could have understood if Ras barely beated him with all those injuries but dude on the batcave?
This game deadass just wanted Batman to die in anyway bro
@@OreoKingRS Batman always has a plan for every wound but this game said lets make 1 arrow hit him then make this fool lay down like an old dog like what this is just disrespectful to everything Batman stands for those negative reviews are very much deserved
When you give Batman a better sendoff than whatever HIS OWN GAME STUDIO did to him, you know something is wrong.
I disliked what happened to Batman but atleast have some knowledge about the games because its obvious your just raising your pitchfork because everybody else is.
WB games own almost all batman games. This game was produced by the same studio (WB games montreal) that developed Arkham origins, and if I am not mistaken helped Rocksteady to make Arkham city and the Batgirl dlc in Arkham knight so I don't know what the hell you're own about "own game studio"
Rocksteady only ever made Arkham asylum by themselves iirc, but I don't think batman has his "own game studio" considering he has many different games made by different studios. Perhaps you meant something elsr like "Most iconic studio" or something?
Even if it wasn't it, all depends on the writers. Why should it matter if its their studio? Marvel made a bad game like avengers but Insomniac made good games like Spiderman1, miles morales and 2. Don't know why you have to exaggerate on that part. I don't think the same writers are evn writing suicide squad anymore.
Btw, in the Suicide squad "ending" I am pretty sure its hinted the story isn't even over yet.
@@UromixOnthey ruined all of the arkham games dumbass, the story doesn’t line up, the gameplay is god awful, the updates are minor, and you’re defending it why? No one likes it it has an active 500players across all platforms. There is literally nothing good about this game even the animation is fucking inconsistent trash, the multiverse is trash. This story line was done right in the comics, why couldn’t it be done right here?
@@UromixOnthe avengers game has a great story and amazing ok gameplay and it had active updates during its life. This game doesn’t compare. The spiderman games weren’t for me but i don’t like spiderman in general. At least those games were character accurate with actual time spent on story, development and every side mission doesn’t take place on the same roof like KTJL
One year later. We now appreciate these creators for doing it better than how Rocksteady send him off
Arkham Batman would break this Ra's in half.
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@@ozcan3198 Arlham initiation Bruce Wayne would breaks ra’s back in under a minute
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Batman wouldn’t lose a 1v1 to ras in his own territory let alone the batcave with all of batmans weapons and equipment 😂
He's hurt didnt you see?
@@abdulrohmannursidhi2703 he still put up a very good fight with his injuries. If he was fresh, he probably would’ve won
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@@abdulrohmannursidhi2703 even when Batman hurt in the comics he still push forward because he needs to take them down pain is nothing for Batman.
And his suit would be armored lol. An arrow wouldn't pierce it...
I now accept this Batman death than the one in that Suicide Squad game....
Gotham knights isn't underrated buts it definitely an overhated game. People forcing themselves to like it because they hated another game god damn
@@HardBonkers-ok1sfI always thought Gotham Knights was a mediocre game.
@@andrijajankovic3865 It's a solid 6-7/10 game and there's nothing wrong with it. People were hating on it way too much like it's a 2/10 game or something because they expected it to be like the arkham games. Atleast this game didn't disrespect its source material.
Still a better death scene than Suicide Squad.
Batman's power scaling is dictated by the story/setting even in comics he defeated darkseid once but also got his back broken by bane there's batman THE SUPERHERO and then batman THE VIGILANTE the powerscaling depends on what the setting of the story is
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That applies to every superhero comic book.
It seems that context is unable to go through your thick skulls.
It's like Batman didn't fight Darkseid barehanded nor naked.
Bro, his back broke by bane only because He was just starting out and had never fought super villains ..
@@lilreverse6095 That not true. He was definitely a seasoned crime fghter at the time and very capable of beating Bane but he had been awake for about a month and fought ever single criminal in his rogues gallery back to back the entire time. By the time he got to Bane (who he didnt even know existed) he was extremely tired. He lost because he didnt ask anyone for help over the last month so he could at least get 1 nights rest.
Fuck the fact that Kevin Conroy died less then a month after this game came out makes this death even sadder, thats probably why they didnt have his voice because he was so sick. He will always be the definitive batman for me. RIP Kevin
Nah he voiced the upcoming Suicide Squad game, I think it’s because they wanted to help establish this is a different universe than Arkham
@@maclain728 Suicide Squad's lines were recorded before this trash's, apparently.
Plus, I doubt WB could afford Conroy's cachet for two games at the same time
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@@EvrainBrandigan Look at the Suicide Game now. Double trash. Shame for you.
Really sucks that the new suicide squad game disrespected the character so badly, I would have much rather have this ending as canon in the arkham universe. We didn't know how good we had it until it got worse.
The fact that now this death is better than the death of actual arkham batman in suicide squad man that hurts
After playing Suicide squad kills the Justice league, perhaps I was too harsh on this games take on Batman's death
Superman can hear lois sneeze from outer space but can’t hear Bruce getting wrecked for ten minutes smh
Edit: it’s a JOKE you biscuit-necked heathens
You would think Batman would have a recording of Lois in trouble, getting railed, or sneezing in case of emergencies like this lol. Play a recording and get insta-saved.
@@Nostradevus1 "getting railed" 😂
@@Alvin-xs7db Best one for getting him coming in hot lol
Man this isn’t about Batman fool
Superman has to focus his super senses.
We can just say this takes place in another Arkham universe and the good Arkham games Batman is still kicking
Or you can do the dignified thing and not talk about “universes”. These are just stories. None of them take place in any coherent “universe”. That’s marketing department gibberish.
@@MegaZeta It's not about marketing, it's about which is story is canon
You do know this game has nothing to do with the Arkham universe right? No reason to "we can just say" this DOES takes place in another (not Arkham) universe
Not Arkham universe. Batgirl isn't in a wheel chair
it is, this game not related with arkham series. Who say this game related with arkham? wtf
Perhaps we treated this too harshly
Better treatment than Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League
damn im happy its not part of the arkham verse.
Edit: what the f this would’ve been a better ending compared to suicide squad.
In the Arkham Universe, Batman is pretty much alive, just working in the shadows.
@@JoseKarloGonzales i mean we don’t know that for sure that’s just a speculation on our part, it seems like something Bruce would do but then again who knows what Bruce is really planning
@@justingabriel1765 It's not speculation, that's literally the end of arkham knight, him using something like what scarecrow uses
@@jamz8785 we don’t know that it’s actually Batman lmfao 🤣, the entire game batman is hallucinating joker, WHOS DEAD, I always took the ending as the fear toxin had lasting effects on criminals, and when they are committing crimes like the guys in the alley, they could act cool but their anxiety would act up, causing the toxin to activate, making them see the nightmareish Batman that appears, for all we know that’s nightwing or Robin, but the criminals see Batman. All of them were effected when the cloudburst went off, and at the end you don’t see them get sprayed with anything before we see it, so the only logical explanation is that it was them being pre exposed to the toxin from before. The entire ending has NOTHING cut in stone, Batman could vary much be alive, and doing things from the shadows, but then it makes no sense to why Alfred and him looked so sad before the manor blew up, but yes he COULD be alive that doesn’t mean he is. It’s entirely up to interpretation
@@justingabriel1765 bruce would never kill alfred
I really hope they're forced to retcon SSKTJL, because I don't want to be forced to accept that a spin-off game that takes place in a seperate universe did Batman's death more cinematic and heroic than the legendary Arkham series Batman.
The story isn't over yet, its hinted in the game.
They better pull the “it was just a dream” cliche.
@@emprabreaor they were clones
The suicide squad game didn’t even make this better, this death scene is genuinely the best way for Batman to go
It really just goes to show which team really put their work towards honouring
a legacy such as Batman's in his final hour, compared to KTJL. I'm so glad it won't
be Kevin Conroy's last role.
I don’t think Batman blowing himself up for no reason is honorable. Gotham Knights Batman is kinda of a ***** and gets pretty much sidelined in the final boss fight. Like the real Batman would atleast help out, but no this guy is just walking around in the back like an idiot.
@@kasiadinero1695there is quite obviously a reason as to why he blew himself up in this
Ra’s really turned into Shang tsung 💀
for real
Same thing I was gonna say.
I don't remember Ra having the power of 1,000 defeated warriors. Lol
Really don't care of such drastic modification to a characters power and abilities. Such a turn off lol
💀💀💀
@@YourDevastator your face is a turn off, LOLOLOLOL
@@kinkkong28 different strokes for different folks, my brother. 🤙🏼🤣
This scene proved how strong Batman’s will is, he’s in obvious pain and pretty damaged, yet still took a guy with 2 knives, didn’t get stabbed with them and beat him down for at least a little and did again too.
Not to mention ghul is magic
Yeah, we know. We all watched the same video that you did.
@@jslberto ok
@@jslberto Yeah, we know. You watched the video we did.
lol didnt you watch...he stabbed him self with Ra's blade
This scene proved how strong Batman’s will is, he’s in obvious pain and pretty damaged, yet still took a guy with 2 knives, didn’t get stabbed with them and beat him down for at least a little and did again too.
I always saw Batman as the prime example of what It means to be human in this world.
He sees evil as a plague, but he doesn't kill because that would be make him no better than them.
He looks out for the little guy, adopting orphans in the cruel world that we live in.
And even if he's fictional and fake, He's still somewhat a good example to live up to.
Loser!!😂
Humane, not human. Though the word is supposed to root from the compassion, we’re mostly shit.
yeah but to me he feels too idealistic and disciplined thats why i gravitate towards jason todd as red hood , i mean that the more humar reaction to stopping crime
Batman is dumb with the no killing rule. There are many justifications over the years but none can satisfactorily justify it.
Do not listen to this guy. He promotes violence as a solution to things.
This game was kinda meh, but they at the very least still respected Batman way more than Nu-Rocksteady is capable of
Agree and plus Gotham Knight gave Batman an Honourable Death
4:48 But... why'd he stab himself with the sword just to headbutt him... he couldn't have just dragged it to the side? Ah yes, to prove a point. Coz he's still Batman.
I think he knew he had to blow up the cave to win. Didn't really see this version of Batman beating Ras the way things were going, so he probably figured if he's gonna blow up the cave, stabbing himself for shock value ain't gonna make a difference so why not lol
Bc he is cool man.
I was wondering the exact same
john wick logic
Fr that was just unnecessary damage
This aged like fine wine
I’m not an old fan of Arkham, but why was this death considered bad for Batman? Went out like a hero, and it’s definitely better than his death in SS.
It’s a cool action scene, sure. But personally, I think it’s pretty weak that he died to begin with. At his batcave, a technological marvel with countless contingency plans, there should be absolutely no way he gets killed.
this cut scene would’ve been badass if the talon was involved here too batman can literally take on multiple opponents at once. i think if they would’ve thrown the talon and some of his army in here this fight scene really would’ve been something. it would’ve been batman vs the talon with a good amount of his army and ra’s. also it was really the crossbow that was doing most of the damage. also maybe in this universe the court found a way to enhance the lazarus pit thus giving ra’s more power in every way possible.
exactly. I feel like they needed to add more to emphasize why batman felt that he needed to die or setting up a situation where it made sense for him to die.
Maybe Ra's decided to work with the court or something and when he turns up dead Talia thinks the court betrayed him or whatever, that would not only have gone with the plot but would gave created a situation where it fully makes sense for batman to do what he did. A scene of him fighting off an invasion of the cave, then deciding to bury everyone with him after realizing he can't stop Ra's or escape without letting them take control of the cave would have been better than him getting caught lacking by a guy hes been dealing with for years in his home territory.
I just feel like they didn't do a good job in showing why batman needed to die here. If he thought he was hamstringing the league and the court before they could fuck everyone over then it made sense for him to go out like he did.
But what about the bumblezorp and the gooble tooble. Surely these catchphrases would have fixed that the script and plot and acting are all just terrible here
You’re kidding ? Rah Al ghul
i feel like a single 'it was poisoned' statement would quiet alot of peoples anger
@@thunderborn3231 i mean, it probably was poison considering the arrow had a sort of smoke to it, usually a way for people to show something is poison in media
Coming back to this because this is actually a better way for Batman to go out than in Suicide Squad kill the Justice League....😐
When and where did that happen?!
@@archlectoryarvi2873he gets shot in the head by Harley
@@freedomwriter9688 ..yeah
@@archlectoryarvi2873the squad beats Batman and carry him to a bench, Harley cuts off whatever he was going to say about basically how fucked up the villain team is, goes on a bit of a collected rant about Batman bringing Justice through the pain and suffering to others but now it is their turn to fill his shoes so to speak, then points a gun to his head and shoots him.
A lot of people r e a l l y hate it.
I like how GK showed that besides being a badass hero, he was also one very important thing: a father.
That's how you kill batman. NOT IN A DAMN PARK BY A MID CHARACTER.
You can see the bat symbol with the umbrellas at 11:42 pretty well detailed
Batman
Half Heart below before the fade
As we all known Batman can't die. He is a symbol. An undying one at that. He will live on in the umbrellas fighting crime until the universe ends
Prepare for Batman. The umbrellas which fight crime.
@@breather8758 Batman can't and can Die,only his Will and legacy Keeps on going the tradition even if it means breaking Bones.
Bruce Wayne and Batman is no more than the World finest Strategist, Detective, Minds and Wills
Totally missed that nice!
WB Games Montréal:
One game in - Batman fights one of his greatest villains with everything he’s got and goes out in an epic heroic way.
Rocksteady:
4 games + Origins in - Fights a motley crew of non-powered villains and gets shot in the head.
WB Games Montreal also did Arkham Origins, and we've gotten one of the best Joker segments since Mark Hamill
@@danielgeronimo5538 - Oh yeah that’s right. It’s set in the Arkham canon, but I forgot another gaming company did it.
This could've been even more better than the sucide squad one if Kevin was voicing this Batman. A proper send off
I like this way.
He died fighting back with honor.
Way better Death.
Batman is apparently injected with the super plot serum
After all this years did u just noticed?
@@jamz8785 THANK YOU
@@jamz8785 Wait i thought he was a human that trained hard.
@@theobnoxiousguy3425 he literally qualifies as a meta human yet writers keep labeling him a “regular man”
@Just Some Guy In The Sky wait who is getting hurt?
Something about this just feels off characterization wise, for both of them. Sure the action is really cool, but it just doesn't seem right for Rás to be so aggressive all of a sudden when even at his most diabolical he respects Batman, and I've NEVER seen Batman struggle physically like this against Rás, mortally wounded or otherwise. I guess "hmmm" sums up my feelings on it
The reasons for Ra’s acting so aggressive is explained in game
@@BeefSupreme138 Have you played it? Is it good? Gameplay and storywise.
This is different universe which means anything is possible.
@@rumuelnathanael8043 that doesn't explain anything dude or answer his concerns..
We've rarely if ever seen Ras going all out. Everything is just another test. Maybe even this.
THIS is our cannon Arkham Batman Ending. Sorry Rocksteady, or more likely, sorry that WB made you this way.
i thought this was horrible when i first saw this.
i now think this is beautiful.
i'm still treating the ending in arkham knight as the canon ending, that was a perfect send off for batman imo
Honestly I thought this was bad initially. But after watching what happens in the new Suicide Game it makes this look like a masterpiece
Ok you're over exaggerating, a masterpiece? Yea its better than what suicide squad di but its not a masterpiece
@@HardBonkers-ok1sf You get what he meant though. I agree with him
Tbh I can’t see Batman loosing a 1 v 1 against Ra’s especially how at this time in being Batman he is very experienced
I'm not a fan of Batman but this is pure bs . Batman can't lose
They could have gave ras powers to catch Batman off guard brought in an army made the fight playable to give the player a feeling of lose but nope they made him look weak and pathetic and put it all in a flippin cut scene this felt like an absolute insult to everything Batman stands for what a massive middle finger to the fan base 🤦
@@Assassin-ys5vw Arkahm Batman took on Ras that was pumped up on lazeras water and he was dying because he got poisoned by joker
I mean I can see that but a lot of people forget that Ra's has lived for hundreds of years. Lived and thrived. Very little he hasn't seen or done. I always figured that whenever Batman won against him, it was because Ra's was either secretly testing Batman, underestimated him, or was kind of half assing it. This Ra's seemed like he was done holding back. Finally ready to put the bat down.
@@stugglefuggle8673 thought about that but thus Batman is up to Tim drake so he must be pretty old so he must have faced Ras multiple times by now so he should be used to him
Theres a big difference Between Them IN Gotham Knights He died like a hero in SSKTJL they made the menace into FRAUD and disrespected him
All the Arkham fans crawling back to this is poetry
Sad, isn't it
@@JustinCage56 Yeah, it is. This kind of thing happens all the time, though. Something comes out and people hate it. Something even WORSE comes out afterwards, and they come crawling back to forgive the thing before that they previously hated. Suddenly, it's "not so bad" anymore. I've always found that to be a little pathetic.
Two times. They (technically) killed him two times here and those two send-offs are so much better than the one in Suicide Squad. If you actually call that thing a "send-off".
And people thought this was an
arkham sequel
When the game first came out people was so upset they killed bat man they completely forgot how much dignity they gave him. He died a warrior. The definition of a solider. So sad that now people are going back and playing this game releasing its fun. They let little things ruin the game for em. In years time some new game will be out people won't like something about it so theyll start looking at suicide squad.
Everyone hated cod ghosts, until advanced warfare. And then suddenly people who spent an entire year bashing ghost started to play it due to being burned out on bo2 and not liking exo suits. Funny how now people are angry we for mw3 instead advanced warfare.
People always bitch. Never listen to any reviews or critics play the games
Those games were the Tekken 4s of their Games including Borderlands the Presequel
God dude, this game is so damn good. If it's gameplay was something closer to your average super hero game, it'd probably be super beloved. Instead it's an amazing story trapped behind, put lightly, divisive gameplay. I personally still love it to this day, it just could have been so much more.
I honestly loved everything bit of this game including the gameplay so after seeing what SSKTJL did to Arkham Batman I was so upset at what they did to him and loved this game even more
Rocksteady, this is how it should've been done.
I love how this fight displayed Bruce’s aggressive tenacity even as he was dying/about to die
THIS IS HOW YOU KILL BATMAN, HOLY FUCKING SHIT ROCKSTEADY
Its not by rocksteady
This is a masterpice if you compare it to rocksteadys batman death....
We treated Gotham Knight too harshly.
I love how everyone is returning here, showing praise and respect because of what they did in Suicide Squad.
This aged better thanks to the suicide squad game
I had a feeling it was gonna happen
With that logic you could say that Gotham knights aged better already considering there were more silly deaths in other Batman iterations but ok, atleast it helps people stop overhating the game and see some of its potential I guess. Not that its underrated masterpiece or anything
@@HardBonkers-ok1sf Based take
So much more respectful than suicide shit. Kevin deserved better, Batman deserved better.
He should have voice this Batman it would have made a proper send off.
I like how after the fiasco with suicide squad folks are coming back to apologize for their portrayal of Batman’s death which was 10x more faithful to his character than what rocksteady did.
Perhaps we treated you too harshly
"I wasn't too harsh on you, you deserved what I had to say then and you deserve it doubly now."
Nah not anymore. Look at Sucide Squad Kill the Justice League Batman Death.
A year ago, comments here were written by whimpering fanboys who were unhappy with Bruce's defeat (because an "ordinary human" cannot lose, lmao)
Now the comment is being written by people who have managed to appreciate this finale. Unfortunately, to do this, they had to see Rocksteady pissing on Batman's corpse.
"I'm not afraid to die."
*Kills self to make a point.*
Not the most intelligent iteration of Batman, it seems.
That literally proves his point wtf are you talking about 🤣
@@eliasrodriguez1419 yeah, he's proving his point and that's what's stupid. They are still fighting, but he's like "Unlike you, I'm not afraid to die. Here, let me show you by impaling myself unnecessarily." Being willing to die if there's no other option is one thing but stabbing yourself just to show you are willing to die? Dumb.
Imagine an alternate scene: Batman enters a room with armed thugs. They all turn to point their guns at him and one says "I'm gonna blow your brains out, Bat-freak!" Batman snarls at him. "I'm not afraid of getting shot!" He then puts a gun in his mouth and pulls the trigger to make his point.
@@jcraigwilliams70 I think its more of him accepting that he would have to blow up the batcave anyways to stop ra's.
@@jcraigwilliams70 right seeing it this way it is ridiculous 💀
@@eliasrodriguez1419 I need to know wtf you are talking about. This is a brain dead batman if I've ever seen one.
Now his death in gotham nights is more likeable :'(
I liked the visuals and now seeing what rocksteady did to their Batman this is just superior in every way
The actual gameplay wasn't great, but you can tell they had a lot of respect for the Arkham games and Batman in general. The whole 5 minute fight choreo was amazing and every scene involving Batman in this game.
This game aged surprisingly well
I remember reading some comics that Batman has defeated Ra's Many times, that's why I find it surprising that he was killed on 1 on 1 combat with this Lazarus Pit addict.
I player the arkham Games, and Ra's has lost to Batman in their every encounter.
Ra’s wants Bruce as his heir he may have held back now he now he sees Bruce as utter failiure so no more holding back
Ra's was only in 2 games lmaoo and you don't even fight him in Arkham knight
@@christianalexander579 this game is not related to rocksteady games
@@christianalexander579 you fight him in city tho
You shouldn't forget that while batman won in the comics against ras that doesn't mean ras is a pushover who can't kill batman in the right circumstances. He has trained way more than batman and has way more fighting experience. And in the games batman faced ras once and batman may have won and most likely he won in their past encounters as well. But ras does want batman to replace him so he partly wanted batman to kill him. And in this encounter it seemed like ras was prepared to hunt the batman to kill him and it seemed like the lazarus pit or something else augmented his powers. So ras had the right circumstances to overpower batman.
Man, he literally faces one of his biggest enemies and he doesn't make it easy for him, he gave more than he could despite his terrible condition, and he also ends everything in an epic way.
This is an honorable death for Batman, and he doesn't even have his own saga.
I think it would have been better for Brainiac to kill him off-camera than that absurd scene they gave us. What a disgrace, Rocksteady.
Say what you want about this game, but this game did Batman’s death a thousand fucking times better than what rocksteady did
Before Suicide Squad, I thought this death wasnt too bad. Especially with the ending (I played as Red Hood mostly). And this is such a better death, its actually treated with respect.
I take it back, I treated this game maybe a bit too badly.
Before: Arkham Batman would fold Ra's in half
Now: I would like to apologize...
This isn’t Arkham Batman
So not only is his outfit not cut resistant or arrow resistant, it's not even burn resistant? Why is he wearing it?
They're magic and enhanced stuff, normal science cant stop that. The sword visibly cut through stone and solid steel like butter, of course it could cut a bullet resistant suit
Hmm, why would billionaire Bruce Wayne wear a costume that Conceals his in identity when fighting against mob bosses and super villains???
@@oliviaforrester2983 most literate Gotham knights fan
@@oliviaforrester2983 Dunno. That’s good point. Remember? Superman almost beat him but Batman wear armor suit with kryptonite which It made him more weak. He should have titanium armor suit…
@@oliviaforrester2983 what made fans angrier? bruces death here, or joels death in the last of us 2. both were unwanted by fans.
For all its gameplay flaws, this game at least had respect for its characters
That fight wasn't fair, Ras has magic, battle armor, poison arrow, and magical sword, while Batman has, light armor, gadgets but no powers. At least Batman died fighting than submit and trash talk just to get shot by Harley on a park bench.
cant believe im saying this but this is better than rocksteadys batman death
I can't believe that Batman would lose to Ras; even though he was his mentor, I feel Batman has outgrown him in many ways; ESPECIALLY not in his own house with his weapons all around.
He's been poisoned, which left Ra's with an advantage this time.
bro only watched batman begins ☠
Finally people give this game respect after kill the justice league.
Gotham Knights got vindicated by history so fast solely because it was a fun game that actually gave Batman a good sendoff and felt like a DC game instead of SSKTJL.
10,000 times better than Kill the justice league
It's a shame Gotham Knights didn't turn out well cause I've loved every cutscene I've seen
Still better than new one.
so ive never seen anything about this series of games (i dont even know if it is a series of games or just one game in a diff universe) and im still flabbergasted about how this game treated batman's death with more respect than kill the justice league which is CANNON to the arkham verse
When you compare Bruce’s death in this compared to the Gotham Knights show, this all of a sudden becomes a masterpiece.
he died from falling off a window in the show right? lmfao
@@MrGN-yy6op Yeah and it was off screen too. I’m sorry but how does one of the worlds best fighters in the world die from being thrown out a window tied up to a office chair 🤣💀
@@memesouls8653 and how the fuck did he fall off? whose idea was it to kill him that way? I just wanna talk to him
@@MrGN-yy6op I have no clue man. It’s completely off screen and it just shows Bruce Wayne strapped to a chair all bloody with a cheap Batman mask put on his face after falling ten stories. Literally it’s just disrespecting the character. I have no clue how anyone thinks that show is a good “Batman” show.
So now does Batman dying from a fall beat being shot in the head by Harley Quinn?
Imagine we complained about this...
It’s shit, but KTJL is pure shit
I talked too much shit about this game I take it back now all that hate is going towards suicide squad and how they killed Arkham night
This is so much better than suicide squad