'It's NOT Berhalter's fault!' - US vs. Uruguay discussion gets HEATED 🔥 | ESPN FC
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- Sebastian Salazar joins ESPN FC to discuss the USMNT's 1-0 loss to Uruguay and then Steve Nicol decides to get into a heated debate with him.
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The same guy blames Southgate for England looking awful but then turns around and said it's not Greg's fault this team is regressing. Some of the most ridiculous stuff I've ever heard
England actually have quality players.
The USMNT have very limited talent. The England team is littered with world-class attacking players and midfielders. That's the difference. The situations are not remotely comparable.
@@zalemdreams but the US do have better players than Panama and Bolivia they should have won those games
Bro you're a clown, don't ever compare the England's quality of players with whatever we the US suppose to be!!lol!!
@@alejandroflores965 10 mostly loses to 11, Especially for that long.
Stevie, not sure what you've been watching, but Berhalter's been trash for 5.5 years. Seb's right, he pulls the fire alarm at half-time, goes to some ridiculous 5-in-the-back setup, taking Gio off for CCV. Berhalter's been rigidly playing a 4-3-3 against all-comers for 5.5years, so the players have no experience playing this 5-in-the back. That's on Berhalter, not the players. GGG was fired from the Swedish 2nd Division for lack of offense. What have we seen from the USMNT under him - lack of offense. He was a middling MLS coach. The players and the fans deserve better.
I hate that use of GGG. People need to call him something else. GGG is one of the greatest middleweight boxers of all time. It's a disrespect to him.
People resorting to the typical "should have done what would have worked." The truth is no matter what he did in the game, all people care about was the end result. The manager may not be having the best time recently, but you can't blame him for these results. Individual mistakes and lack of talent is what got them knocked out. Whether or not he gets sacked depends on who is available. Some people think they want anything else and before you know it, we have a revolving door of managers circus. Typical occurrence in teams that think they are better than they are. Scapegoat the manager and stroke the ego of players.
@@turkeydano2106 why can't he be blamed for the results? If the outcome of a match is solely determined by the players, then why bother paying a manager $2.2M/year? Not-withstanding how bad Berhalter's been, national team coaches rarely get 2 cycles. Why was he rehired after the "exhaustive search" after his first contract ended? Your "The manager may not be having the best time recently" is laughable. He has NEVER had "good times". Sacked from second division Swedish division. Barely had a level record in MLS. Fails into the USMNT coaching gig because his brother handed him the job. But yeah, sure, it's not his fault. We should keep him for the next 20 years.
As a former manager, Stevie often defaults to not blaming managers.
@@turkeydano2106 He's not only to blame for doing nothing before a halftime panic, even more he's to blame for allowing the players to feel comfortable. I was never a fan of Berhalter, but where it really got bad was when USSF decided to bring him back for another cycle. That almost never ends well.
"It's not Berhalter's fault!"
I guess analysts and the USSF are content with mediocrity.
Yeah if you noticed it's only the people that care about the teams success that have criticized Berhalter.
I don't think Stevie cares one bit, the point he makes is that maybe they don't have success because they aren't that good. Sometimes you have to realize that you are a frog in a well in concacaf, but until you have real talent you aren't ready to compete with the best yet. Is it really the manager holding them back? Will things actually change if the managers changes? I suspect not. He has no magical wand to make players perform better, he is picking probably the best players and putting them in their positions. I don't know how deep the tactics go, but they were competitive at the world cup under him and have been qualifying consistently. If they could get a top tier manager with more experience then sure, have a go, but otherwise you are just throwing people in a fire that will never go out.
@@turkeydano2106it is his fault berhalter is why the team is not ruthless. Imagine telling your team hey its 1-1 when you should tell them to defend
@@turkeydano2106 the us pundits do the same thing the mexican ones do, see the teams failures and instead of looking at the talent, blame the manager and leave it at that, it's easier to think you are amazing but just one guy is doing a bad job than accepting that maybe you are just not that good.
@@PED_Fraudiola If you need to tell a professional to defend during a set piece, then they aren't professionals mate. You can communicate your tactics depending on the situation, but if they lose focus because they know the score of another game its just more proof they aren't ready. Once again, this isn't me saying Berhalter is the best manager, but I am curious as to what you actually expect with this team. Who is going to turn these guys into winners? People want him out but have no idea as to who the replacement would be. There isn't anyone lined up, they made their decision already.
The second Stevie said its not Berhalter’s fault Sebastian went off 😅
😆
It isn't the first time his players got red card. It happened three times under his management with McKennie, Dest, and now Weah. His team is undisciplined.
Seb went to the Taylor Twellman school of not shutting up, jeez this guy can’t listen for a moment.
Berhalter is a trash manager and should be sacked but we couldn’t make 8 yard passes in that game
I wish people watched the games without the fan bias. The basic level of skill just isn’t there. Pulisic had the best opportunity late in the game, but instead of shooting on the fly he chose to give it a touch and ultimately was blocked bc of the second wasted on the touch. That’s a lack of skill and quality and HE’S THE BEST PLAYER!!!!
@@joeshmoe8134 And Pulisic wouldn't get anywhere near the team for a strong nation.
@@a-walpatches6460 Pulisic would start for Uruguay. Their starting wingers were Max Araujo and Pellistri. Araujo plays in Mexico and Pellistri played on loan for the bottom club in La Liga. Christian Pulisic was a star attacker on the 2nd place team in Serie A.
The current generation of players is horrible.
It's refreshing to see a realistic take. Canada has also looked horrible this tournament. It's by the grace of God they're still in it.
Horrible first touches, organization, and passing. Can't win games like that.
Not Belharter's fault? A read card is not the reason they are out... they are out because they were not ruthless against Bolivia, and Gregg's poor game management vs. Panama.
Bruh what? lol they beat Bolivia, Panama was supposed to be a straightforward game for the US. Everyone knew they had to win the two games because against Uruguay, a draw was at best they could do. But what does Berhalter do? Plays with 5 at the back to get the draw…you play 5 at the back when you’re up 1. Like bruv, grade school kids have more ball knowledge than Berhalter
@@overweight_miata beat BOlivia 2-0 which is not ioressive at all. As the 11th ranked team vs the 84th ranked team it should of at least been 4-0. Just stop it
@@overweight_miataI think you guys are agreeing with each other 😂
A draw against panama would’ve gotten them through. So 2 goals was enough against Bolivia.
@@billsteezie641: No because our goal differential would have been equal and Panama would have advanced on goals scored.
Under Greg, only 2 wins against top 30 teams not named Mexico. ITS GREGGS FAULT.
Let me ask you this. Which teams in the top 30 can you definitively say the US are on better than? Iran, Australia and Wales. The reality of CONCACAF is that you don't consistently play good teams. How can you be expected to improve?
United States need a new coach fr 😭
This diatribe is starting to smell like shampoo.
Zinedine Zidane.
Gareka
Guardiola,😂😂😂😂
@@user-yw7lq1cw9k They cant too expensive.
Berhalter needs to go!!!
Get a grip on reality. This is the Golden Generation relative to USA’s history. Everywhere else they’re just a mediocre team
@@dggjr1759 For real 😂
@@dggjr1759 This is nowhere near, the so called USA's "Golden Generation" is Landon Donovan's tap in
@@dggjr1759says the one that hasn't tried to get to be manger or CEO of a company so you also accept mediocre too.
who should we hire? klopp? problems are much deeper than the darn coach.
It amazes me that the USA has never had a South American coach. They have gone for Europeans or locals Anglo coaches. Considering they play against Latin teams, you’d think that at one stage they would have thought about having an Argentinian or Brazilian coach. The whole world values their knowledge on the game yet the USA just ignores them. I’m thinking it’s a kind of bias against Latin American coaches.
*Managers - we've had plenty of Hispanic coaches over the years.
@@tripperdelaluna1 'Hispanic doesn't mean they come from south America, especially from Argentina or Brazil.
Need a Spanish or German coach only serious countries. Look at who the favorites are in the euro cup. Not a coincidence
A South American coach would not be a good fit for the US national team. South American coaches thrive on players with individual skill and savviness, the US don't not have that type player that South American coaches are looking for in their players, and the players wouldn't respond well to the coaches either, totally different mentality. The US is and has always been much more eurocentric in their approach to the game. Their playing style is much more aligned with the Northern European style of play. The US needs to find a qualified European coach, who can bring out the most in these players. American coaches are not qualified to coach in the national team level, they are MLS level coaches, what the US needs is a qualified European coach.
@@jsport1089 Lol and how has having Europeans coaches worked out for the USA? 🤣How have South American coaches gone in Europe? Lets say Bielsa and Yes Pochettino cause he did have a couple of good seasons in Tottenham. There are South American coaches especially Argentinians & Brazilians all over the world. Are the American players that special? Come on man!
The reality is the US board would've already fired Berhalter and the fact that they need to evaluate before they make a decision doesn't make sense.
USA is overrated. I think they are ranked in the top 15 according to fifa rankings. I would slot them 30 and this is before the COPA debacle.
37 if you asked me
No excuses, leadership is the issue.
The loss to Panama is inexcusable. Idgaf if we went down to 10. We had enough talent to win that game. Berkhalter made a critical error in taking off Balogun. That was it.
I mean they could’ve absolutely pulled a draw which could’ve made a big difference in advancing for my opinion.
It just shows the bad tactics and displace team USA still has compared to others.
Easier said than done! USA is not that great!
To win with 10 men is debatable. But they are definitely good enough to hold on for a draw.
Try telling statistics that.
GGG lost that game the minute he subbed out a midfielder for a 5th defender. That meant giving up possession. Like for like subs made no sense. Adams shouldn't have been starting games, waste of a sub.
Against Panama, Berhalter decided to play a low-block for the entire second half, taking off Gio Reyna -- the one really creative and best passing player on the team -- for an extra center back at home against Panama, inviting Panama to attack. He also took off Balogun for Pepi, further limiting our counter-attacking threat that would have kept Panama honest, who after losing against Uruguay might have not been so eager to push numbers forward to win and risk getting burned on a counter-attack, losing, and thus being eliminated from the tournament altogether. That tactical idiocy and cowardice has defined Berhalter's 5 years in charge.
So absolutely Berhalter is culpable. I know the non-Americans of ESPN FC hate the hype for the USMNT, but this squad's potential is unknown, but under Berhalter, they are definitely far less than the sum of the parts. That has been clear for years. If we were a serious footballing nation, we would have never hired him in the first place, never rehired him, and immediately fired him after getting grouped and not be debating it now.
This team would've been better under Klinsmann. We have regressed immensely, the team lacks leadership and character. Yes the talent and potential is there but you will need the right coach to get the best out of them. Competing in Gold cup and winning it means nothing when you can't barely make some noise at the copa america
Imagine if Klinnsy had remained coach long-term and were still at the helm! I totally agree with you here. Re-hire Klinnsy or Hoddle with his psychic.
I’ll give you that Klinsmann helped US soccer immensely with getting players who could’ve played for Euro teams to play for the US. But, this generation of players has no heart, guts, grit. Klinmanns played with and coached with passion and love. This team has none of that. Think of 2002 team. They had no business getting to quarterfinals on talent. They did it with grit. This team needs a coach like Herb Brooks was for USA hockey. Somebody to tell their gen-z, millennial entitled butts that they don’t have enough talent to win on talent alone. Someone who won’t care if Daddy is high up in USSF. Someone who will drive them hard in camps, push them every second, and create a mindset of “it doesn’t matter how you can hit. It’s how you can get hit and keep forward”(Rocky Balboa). Until then US soccer, youth to national level, will always just be meh.
Funny how Canada has an American coach who is now in quarterfinals.
Apples and oranges.
who cares
@@JJ-nu8qi wrong.
@@samplingmastersxlr8660 you should
@@wheelz114 they haven’t done anything yet
It’s just like when they were first in World Cup qualifiers, in the end it didn’t matter
Supposedly was a golden generation 😂
Same thing Belgium Uruguay and chile huh? Golden generations that didn’t win nothing, canavani and Suarez? Lukaku de bryune, hazard, Alexin etc?
@@mexicangator Belgium was very disappointing. They had good runs though
No goalden generation 🤣
@@mexicangator Belgium was 3rd in 2018 WC, Chile won a couple of copas
I'm sure the USMNT would have happily sold its soul for even lesser results...
Uruguay didn't achieve anything with their golden generation but they are a double WC winning country.
Golden drip
Even with the US not being great Berhalter is still under performing and needs to go. Even with a man down they where a goal up as well. No matter the club minutes. Lot's of national teams have squad players as starters and they don't fail. Greg is not the only problem but he is definitely part of the problem.
Same old story like 7 years ago
"Not as good as they think they are"
Yah, it was you guys going on and on and on about the golden generation. And how even a man down that US should've still done well against Panama.
"We think they're better than Panama and Bolivia"
Well, you didn't even tie against Panama. So what does that actually say?
Exactly
America needs Sean Strickland in the team
He would have berated Tim Weah for getting a red AND not landing the punch solid enough.
@@kalbeeRaimerlove this comment 😂
How can America loose when they have the best player of all time. Pulisic
Because you need 11 players. It's not tennis you know.
He is the Lebron James of soccer
Right, and I'm tired of ppl comparing pulisic and Ronaldo, just enjoy them both
Pulisic won the Champions League because of Kante👈
N'Golo Kanté
Hes nuts if he doesnt think Panama has individuals who cant break US roster
Typical arrogant clown!
They have one that gets in the US starting 11.
If the USMNT had 3 of Panama's best players, they would be invincible.
@@guillermogouldburn763Maybe if they learned to play dirty like Panama
Maybe if they learnt not to punch people@liamconverse8950
Classic American, can't shut his mouth and listen.
Stevie defending US manager sums up his pundit career
He's not defending him, he's just responding to Seb's rather silly point that he should've shaken up the defence before Panama scored. As well as making the point that once the players cross the white line a lot of the responsibility lies with them to step up and do their jobs properly. Seb's light years away from Stevie when it comes to experience and game understanding though, fair play.
@@heriwood88 Stevie is silly in general. Quick to blame south gate for Englands performance, but no not when it comes US. That’s why no one likes him or respects his opinions
The real issue is when you look at and hear Berhalter talk, does he instill Confidence of a Leader of Men, not your Buddy but your LEADER. Whatever answer you get, is the Reality.
I have never heard of Antonee Robinson In the premier league as best fullback
voted fulham player of the season and led ALL players in europes top 5 leagues with 80 interceptions...
Lol. Who takes Stevie seriously? Lmao. Berhalter isn’t the problem? I turned off the video after just
He was not the problem for the loss. They went up with 10 men. What did you want him to do?
He invited Panama to just come at us for the entire second half by playing at the back. @@myp0h
@@myp0hhes been a problem since his hiring. His tactics an unability to motivate his team is jarring
Stevie is a joke, always has the worse talking points
@@myp0h His players got silly red card on three occasions with McKennie, Dest, and Weah. It shows the team is undisciplined. The blame must be on the coach for that happened so many times.
It is absolutely ridiculous that Mr. Salazar was shouting down Mr. Nicol. Stevie played over 300 matches for Liverpool!! Salazar played NAIA or NCAA D3 soccer?! He needs to be a bit more respectful. On top of that, Mr. Nicol was 100% correct.
Weah is not a defender, he was not a midfielder. If you are going to lose a player to a red card, a forward is the most fortunate place to lose a player. As Steve said, the defense was intact and the midfield was intact. There was no need to change or shuffle personnel like if a defender or a central midfielder was ejected. From that perspective, it is absolutely reasonable for Berhalter to hold until half-time and evaluate changes from there.
Not that I am endorsing the play under Berhalter, but Salazar's particular point is out in left field. Did he play baseball too at Westminster???
Agreed
The yelling guy thinks he's talking to the person he is angry with and decided to make stevie his punching bag. So much for a conversation and commentaries. 😂
That'll be all i'd ever watch another video with him on it. 😂
As a Canadian, I love the Americans passion and desire to be the best at pretty much everything, but from time to time you need to take a cold shower, have a look in the mirror, and except reality...As Burley said, yes he should be fired, but they are not nearly as good as they think they are...
At least we’re better than Mexico and Canada.😢
They’re not. Canada has Davies. US has Pulisic who has been a disappointment in Euro soccer. Seb is way overhyping this squad, it’s average.
@@patrickmaccarone8717 Comparing one player with another is an oversimplication on which team is better. If you were to compare player for player Canada and USA, you would take the USA roster. I don't think Seb is overhyping the squad. He is just being very annoying.
@@padddyice Canada has been the better team the last few years. I think a lot of these American players are overhyped and aren’t as good as you think they are. Canada has a few really solid players like Davies, Estaquio, David. US is okay right now, nothing special.
@@patrickmaccarone8717Yes that is why the US trashed us in last years Nations league final.😂 From top to bottom The US still have better players than Canada overall but its really close
they dont have enough players that can actually do something.
But they have an avenger on the field, how can they lose with the mighty unstoppable Goat Pulisic
😂😂😂
Adalberto Carrasquilla is one of Panama's best players and incidentally was the guy who got a red card on Pulisic. He is club teammates with Griffin Dorsey both starting on a relatively middling MLS team, and they are roughly equivalent as players at different positions and are the same age. Griffin Dorsey has zero caps for the USMNT. None. The USMNT should beat Panama at home by multiple goals, and, quite frankly if playing well, should already be ahead by the time Weah picked up his red card. The talent gap is roughly equivalent of Newcastle vs Plymouth Argyle. At home. GGG has lost to this team three different times now.
Oh shut up! I hope they fire Berhalter. I really do, so Americans can see really how deluded they are. Your players aren't that good and Panama is going to keep beating you. While you are regressing as a team, Panama is only getting better with every tournament. They beat you fair and square with 7 starters out.
Someone needs to teach the USMNT how to weigh a ball because the amount of force they put on pass is so bad no one can control it.
The USMT is weak af
so is everyone else
They are terrible. Always have been.,
@@damonff so is everyone else
USMNT...
Stevie showing his classic outdated 1970’s view of football
Stevie overriding point is the USA players do not take enough responsibility. That's a sign of overage overall quality, blaming a guy in the sideline when they're the ones on the pitch.
Sebs point is that Berhalter has been the problem for a long time. Berhalter has been a coach for how long? And he has a terrible record against any decent team. So why is he still coach?
@@516Mel Lol that may be so, but the point is still valid. This USA team do not take ownership of games or have any players with that personality. You can't pin that on the coach. Next coach will come in and you'll realize the point.
I think Stevie is right about the Panama game with 10 men but I think the USA needs a better manager anyway.
This is the problem with the USMNT. Pundits like Sebastián keep making excuses for the USMNT. This team isn’t very good! Period!! The fact that these players play aboard doesn’t mean they have what it takes to beat good teams. If you want proof, look at what happened against Uruguay. Every time the USMNT loses, pundits like Sebastian look for excuses because they can’t accept the USMNT isn’t very good. They get the odd good result, but aren’t very good.
They are good enough to beat Panama tho. Even with a man down
They were up 1-0 with a man down
The U.S. football team is not experienced enough to play against countries who have football tradition. The manager is not that familiar of what to do when the team is struggling.
If you need to yell to get your point across, you have a weak argument.
Seb guy got anger problems, shouting like an idiot. USA team is basic at best enough with the hype.
Hard not to yell when you’re arguing with someone as simple as Stevie
the issue they don't get into is that its not just this tournament...remember the gold cup where they were lucky to get by jam
Don’t forget we only qualified for WC 2022 based off of Goal Differential. Couldn’t win away from home then, now we can’t beat Concacaf teams at HOME!
Gregg gotta go.
02:28 I'd like to point out to Seb. The captain and the top striker for Uruguay team are not guaranteed starter for their respective club teams. Heck, the top scorer for Uruguay plays for a team in Liga MX. And you freely admitted it's impossible for USA players to beat Uruguay. So it's really not a question of whether they played for their club or not, the fact of the matter is, USMNT players sucked. They played badly. That's it.
seb should stick to hosting shows
just bec bro is shouting louder than everyone doesnt mean he has a point 😂
This man is on crack ! Best Left back in the Pem 🤣🤣 that is definitely not true
Do you actually watch the PREM? was arguably top 3 LB that league. He will leave fulham in the next year forsure.
Arguments like this with Stevie is exactly what ESPN FC needs more of and less of Craig bashing Manchester United & less of Dan Thomas being rude to Don & panelists.
I agree with Stevie here, sorry. Not a GGGB fan at all but this failure is on Weah. Panama was the game they had to win and they were down a player early. If USA had won with 10 men then GGG would be hailed as a genius and you wouldn’t want that either.
Like Frank said months ago on the show.
“In the US, football is for the rich. In other countries, football is for the poor.”
Fire berhalter
Here hust to remind the result against Panama: Panama 2 x 1 US. It is not obvious that the US is superior to Panama. Pure arrogance from these so-called commentator Sebastian Salazar. He is clueless.
Salazar chose the wrong job. He's better putting on a skirt and play cheerleader at the USSF HQ.
It is ABSOLUTELY Berhalter fault with a dash of fault from the Reyna family as well.
Berhalter is playing tactics and formations that don’t apply to the talent on the roster. This should be an attacking forward team that doesn’t adjust until too late yet we have a team relying on the long ball and adjusting in the final 15-20.
This is a better squad than the Dempsey/Altidore/Donovan era but they are coached far worse
This Seb dude just talk BS with limited idea of Football (not soccer).
Ranting ranting ranting without saying the reality, A bunch of these US men football players suck big time.
I love Steve Nicol . I wish he’d coach the USMNT or was and assisting coach he def wouldn’t cradle these players
Doesnt strike me as a tactcial genius though
@@dilksjoel nor do any fans i have read. If the idea that Nicol is bad, then the math statement " adding two negatives don't equal a positive" is correct.
He is entertaining but has zero football knowledge.
Naw…..you don’t want Stevie Nichol….you really really don’t…
Berhalter, is NOT a winner! He was more concerned with Panama v Bolivia rather than gunning for a win against an Uruguay team that already qualified first in the group. His subs were absolutely abominable in both losses. His offensive desperation subs against Uruguay led to Adams McKinnie and Reyna playing the back line! Sacrificing our creative players for mediocre attackers. Yes, Weah’s red card hurt, but a good coach will update the game plan and formation.
Younger guy forgot his Midol.
Seb’s wrong Cordoba for Panama would absolutely get in the USMNT starting 11
over US two Premier league CB's?? He'd be in the squad but starting 11? naw.
@@Jstoney127 Cordoba’s just signed with Norwich I don’t think it will long before he is a premier league CB. Stylistically Cordoba would suit the USMNT much better as he would have recovery pace for Robinson and wins first and second contacts. Reams also starting to get on in age.
@@Jstoney127Ream is on his way out as a premier league player.
Word! I guarantee you Cordoba sees more playing minutes in his club in Bulgaria than any of the US central defenders. I really would like to know how Americans evaluate talent other than what they find in the internet and playing FIFA.
@@Jstoney127 So what if they play in the PL. There are better players than them in a number of teams. Also did you see how Robinson got killed by Blackman everytime in that game. He also allow Ayarza to recover a ball and pass in the 2nd goal play. He's bang average. Once you accept that you will open your eyes.
Its weird how everyone is avoiding the obvious aspect of the average American player verse an average player of another country. Look at their touches. When they get the ball, when they pass the ball, when they shoot the ball. Their touches are abhooooorent!
Every time a US player touches the ball, it moves at least 2 meters away from the player. So then what do they do? Lunge kick the ball to the moon hoping one of their teammates is at the end of their hail-mary.
I think what needs to change is the football (soccer) philosophy/culture/education. Because when I see the USMNT play, the first word that comes to mind is "flailing".
I’ve noticed this for years. And this is taught early. I don’t know if this is practiced in academies. Certainly not in college which we all know is worthless. But the US team touches have been trash for years and it’s part of the game that Americans have not mastered yet.
I completely agree. You can see such a gap of talent between the U.S. and top national teams just by seeing how good their first touch is. This seems to be a trend in a lot of lower level national teams so you can really see where the United States is in comparison to other teams.
This right here. The fastest way to determine the talent of a team is to look at touches and ball control. The championship in England has better teams than this group of US players
America firing Klinsmann set American Soccer back 50 years
@@angryturtle777 Lmao what? You literally have 2 of the highest scoring players in the Championship in this team already lmao.
This is the problem, when a team does great it's because how great the team played and the coach was amazing, when they do poor it's only because the coach did poor not the players.
From reading the comments I can understand both sides of the argument. But all I will say is that we won’t truly know how good or bad the players are until we see the team hire a different coach in a different system then I think we will truly find the answer.
The yanks clueless
Which ones? The team? The USSF? The fans? The pundits?
@@dexterwestin3747My guess he is generally speaking
But you Brits aren't? How ironic
@@dilksjoel Understood - I wonder how he feels about Mexico's nat'l team then because they make the USMNT look like a well run organization.
USMNT mate....
Sorry Stevie not with you. As an American and someone that's played and watched for years berhalter cannot coach this team. When times get tough he can't make tough choices
Agree Berhalter ain’t all that but neither is the golden gen. None of the big names stepped up on the field when it was do or die time. Pepi, Pulisic, Reyna etc. were non-factors. You can argue that coaches put players in positions to succeed but we’ve seen Berhalter do that to his credit against lesser teams. Weah got the red and the big names didnt show up after that. Not really on Berhalter imo. Reality check for this talent pool. still a few levels below proper footballing nations.
He made the tough choice of not starting Reyna in the World Cup. How does he not make tough decisions?
One ESPN sports pundit is blaming the players and the other pundit is arguing and blaming the manager, don't blame the managers or the players, it's nobody's fault just blame the game! 😂😄👍
It's fairly common to move to a 531 when down to 10 men. It depends on whether you have better defenders and fullbacks or midfielders. If the midfield is better, you play a 441. Regardless, an attacking player is taken out You pack it in and play counter attacks. I agree that you cannot judge a manager in a game where his team goes down to 10 mean after 18 minutes.
Dude stop yelling at Stevie
Stevie was yelling too goofy, calm down
Salazar absolutely embarrassing himself😂😂😂
Can't keep his mouth shut and listen for a minute. If players don't have playing minutes at club level than maybe they are not good enough to play for the club.
@@michaelkuhnle1555 Near meaningless in international football. With the top clubs hoarding players a lot of national teams use squad players and they do fine. Has it hurt their development sure. Does it have as much impact as the manager? Nope.
Seb lack of football knowledge is scary. He never analysis games. Does not break the game down. Just arrogance thinking USA has to be the best
Due respect to Seb but a bit of areogance there on his take of Panama and the competition. Panama are typically physical and tough and honestly a bit dirty. But the US should be used to them. Meanwhile i also disagree with Nichol - The US have a terrific young core but the manager is WELL out of his depth and its beyond obvious.
Typical American getting angry when someone has a different opinion
Yes! Seb is such an angry apologist for a country that has no football pedigree, zero.
He’s Mexican, supports Mexico
Leave Gregggggy aloooooone!!!!11!11!!
I get what Stevie is trying to say (but he is missing the point), yes these players have been mid...but whose fault is it? Chicken (Berhalter) or the Egg (Players) type argument. However, player underperformance or inability to meet expectations still results in managers getting fired. No matter what, it should all come back to the manager being unable to develop, unable to bring out the best in the players he has, get rid of Berhalter.
At least Berhalter has tried something other than a 4-3-3 during his second go-round, which gave me some hope. But I think that Weah cost us this Copa more so than GGG.
There is really little time to prepare for the World Cup now, so if Berhalter is to be replaced, that needs to happen ASAP, please, but I think it won't. Who would replace him, anyway?
There is still heaps of talent here, folks, so let's not lose faith.
Finally, some positives to take away from this Copa:
Scally is a capable RB and held his own.
Balogun is awesome.
Pulisic is better than ever and now even gets angry.
I actually was missing Zimmerman here, meanwhile, as the center back pairing looked shaky at times, though I have high hopes for Richards, but God bless Ream... Can he start in 2026? I don't think so. Robinson should have gotten minutes at this Copa.
Happy Fourth of July, everyone. And GO CANADA!!!!
Overhyped players
So’s your face
The reality is that the USMNT is NOT better than Panama. Look at the group standings.
FIFA ranking?
They are better but this clueless clown thinks there's a huge gap between them.
This is a moronic opinion with 0 context whatsoever. Usa beats panama 8 times out of 10 and usually doesn't get a red card
😂 Are you stupid? The US would murder Panama if they had a half decent coach.😮
6 of Panama's star players were out due to injury, so the USMNT could not beat Panama's B team, something they should be able to do 3 men down if they are as good as they think they are.
Yes there were defenders but when switching to a back 5, which the team hasn’t played, you not only concede the midfield, but it changes defensive assignments. It was lack of midfield pressure and those different assignments that led to the winning goal.
Lol not Greg’s fault, then Whose? He’s the manager is he not?
I don't know... maybe these choke artists' posing as players
Seb is delusional, child like and incredibly annoying
Then he's a very accurate representation of the fans.
@@treyjohnson8557 No I think most are just like him, or maybe they're just the most vocal I suppose.
@@treyjohnson8557 No, you're the one in the minority. USA fans are some of the most delusional in the world.
@@treyjohnson8557what do you mean think like him? He just said we didn’t expect to beat Uruguay. However we did expect to beat Panama and Bolivia
It’s nuts he thinks they’re an 8/10 team. Who are these guys on the US roster? Who scares you? They’re just good players not great.
Oh Seb! Why do all American talking heads SHOUT?
Steve is so right they blame everybody except them selves in the usmnt haha😂
It’s the country’s fault itself. As a former college player in the States I know that every roster is full of foreign internationals. The USA don’t want players purely from America. They also don’t find people off the street that don’t have anything and are poor. They have academies for the rich to get their sons in. That’s why they suck.
Every country they play against would die for that opportunity to play for their country. It’s means everything to them. There is nothing authentic about US football. They just try to copy and paste everyone else’s culture.
USSF really needs to consider looking at players from the leagues here. Not just MLS, but the USL. I'm from Detroit and our team Detroit City FC has some fire players.
Seb is what happens when you are too emotionally attached to a point or stance and refuse to acknowledge any truths that refutes his bias. Children do this.
ok this is getting old, Berhalter is done
It’s definitely Berhalters fault. All one has to do is not be lazy and actually look at his results against any decent team. He’s terrible, why we haven’t replaced him yet is beyond me.
Canada 🇨🇦
Seb and Herc need to move to Fox.. The relentless talking over without respect for Stevie to have his say and the idea that if you say it loud enough, long enough and only his opinion is worth listening to would fit right in with Fox and Alexi.
The issue with in person and zoom calls. The one in the room will allways win.
Lol good take. Seb is a snobby American with bad behavior.
Uruguay is an amazing team right now.. They're the only ones i fear for Argentina..But Messi will win it
USA peaked in 1930
Got to the WC semis
Going downhill ever since
Unrealistic expectation by the U.S. fans..!!! ...Most of the talents in the U.S. sport go to baseball, basketball, and what is called as "American football" which is not even played by the foot...!!!..It may take another 10 years before the U.S. team becomes competitive in Copa America.
Bro cited Pulisic winning the 2021 champions league when he was the worst player on the pitch when subbed on late in the match 😂
Loser. Seb is a big one.
He was the 2nd closest player to scoring, and he also got a goal and assisted in two games against madrid in the semis
@@Eli__Michael That Real Madrid team was lucky to even be in the later stages of the league. They had no attack, a midfield who couldn’t move and had no answers for Kante, and had 2 giveaways by a washed Varane. Pulisic is at Milan for a reason. Next stop is MLS.
@@user-qx5nk6qg2b Chelsea doesn't make the finals without Pulisic, he was on fire during lockdown - and Milan is better than Chelsea any day of the week. Way superior club in every aspect, EPL stans are unreasonable.
Seb giving Stevie the American media treatment by yelling into the mic. Hey guy, it's ok to let someone talk.
Awful. Seb sucks. Not just his takes. But his style.
Who is Seb? Steve Nichol was a class act. Played with, and managed by, the very best.
I think it has to do with the fact that when Seb was the host in the studio, Stevie and Craig were treating him poorly, like he didn’t know much about soccer and making fun of him constantly. And it’s Seb’s national team they’re talking about so it’s normal for Seb to be more emotional. But I’m not here to defend Seb.
Take your point. People from Ayrshire don't mince their words. Especially their age group. They enjoy nothing better than a good wind up. Your man getting sent off was madness. Lost you the game.
absolutely Berhalter's fault!
We didnt score enough goals. The attack is very weak and lacking in GGG system and it cost us in this tournament and in the many games. Nearly in the confederations cup.
Its going backwards not progressing. Its time for a change in system and coach
They depend too much on hail Mary goals from a distance.
The US thinks that pulisic is the next Messi and he hasn't done anything in Europe only to piggy back Chelsea for a CL but nothing in Dortmund or AC Milan.. So he's not a guy that can take you far for club or country. Facts
Facts.
Barely had playing time in AC Milan
@@WingWingHerrobro what are you talking about 🤣
Hes is not WC or even close to it.
But he did not piggy back Chelsea for the CL. Assist vs Ath Madrid, Goal and Assist vs RM and MotM vs Porto.
You’re talking nonsense.
Chelsea win Champions League because Kante
Jesus how bad are Panama and Bolivia if none of these players can get in the us squad. Robinson plays for average fulham and wasnt good enough for the worst milan team in history. Deluded!!!!
Right?
Nobody blaming Tim weah he’s the #1 reason they lost against panama😂
Dan tried to tell Seb that the squad wasn’t good enough. Seb didn’t wanna listen. Now Stevie’s trying to tell him and he still doesn’t wanna listen. Now I understand why they don’t really fool with Seb.
When Dan asked Seb which US player plays at world class level, he got defensive. Truth is the best athletes in America don’t play soccer partially because the youth programs are not cheap (which excludes potential talents) and also because the best athletes might want to play in the more popular NFL or NBA.
This generation is good by US standards but not by World football standards.
The US will never produce top talent because of the league structure.
best athletes lmao all i gotta say is messi and he would destroy a lebron james in soccer even if lebron grew up playing soccer so gtfo with that idiotic opinion.
The idea that the best athletes in America play NFL or NBA largely conflates the athlete pool.
Soccer players are significantly shorter than football and basketball players. You might have an argument that these athletes are playing other sports in middle school, high school, and college, but I think it's a massive oversimplification. They certainly aren't going to the NFL and NBA.
I think the better argument is that we have too many options for sports for kids who often end up playing a multitude of different sports through out the year rather than dedicating themselves to soccer and when they have to choose, they're often times giving up on soccer.
Is not about producing the best athletes. Is about producing the best soccer players and developing a style. Currently, the use is using speed and physicality to win against weaker competition but cannot compete against teams that although may lack in physicality, produce better soccer players.
You can't put american football or nba players to play soccer. The talents are totally different.