Great video man. I've been thinking of changing my looper from the Voicelive 3 so I can get more outputs so this is a great explaination. I'll be digging into more of your content ,thanks very much. Phil
@@RossGallagherMusic how do you control the track volumes individually on the loop pedal for each track. Please help. I got a gig tomorrow. This will be life saving.
Hi Ross. I have a 2-part question for you... 1) You say one reason for making these changes is 'you'll have options to record input effects to each of your tracks'. I'm trying to get my head around why you would do that if you have access to track fx. Then it occurred to me that if it's possible to record a track with 4 i/p fx on stright onto track 1, you could then in theory add 4 additional track fx on the loop, potentially giving 8 fx on the track 1 loop - is that right and if so how'd you do it? 2) I got the RC600 to replace my RC500, separate guitar2bass pedal and other fx pedals. But with that set up I was able (using one source guitar) to record a bassline, guitar chords and guitar line all onto one track which has overdub layers (and all that in SINGLE mode so I could use my other track for a chorus loop). Is it possible to do the same thing with the RC600? I.E. using one input source (guitar), add the G2B fx on the RC600 to create a loop on track 1. Then overdub that loop on track 1 with chords and a different RC600 fx (say chorus). Then overdub the track one loop with a lead guitar with diff RC600fx (say, distortion). Then add more overdubs? I've attempted this, but if having recorded a track 1 loop with G2B fx on, when you switch that fx off ready to record the next overdub layer, the RC600 plays the loop with no G2B fx, so it does not record the guitar with the fx applied, just the clean guitar. I'm looking to do this in SINGLE mode on one track to do a verse loop, then use the other tracks for chorus and break loops - that's the idea. Or, will I have to do it all in MULTI mode and use ONE track exclusively for a G2B part, then use track 2 to record chords with a chorus fx, then track 3 etc??? Thanks!
i think i have almost the same problem.. i have a e-guitar on my first input and a bass-guitar on the other.. i want to record in "singlemode" but the track does not seperate the output..
Thanks, glad you're finding it useful! You can only use 4 input FX and 4 track FX at any one time, so it's not possible to have more than one FX bank on at the same time, unfortunately.
Hi Ross, your tutorials on RC-600 are fantastic. I just got the unit and have been trying to learn as much as possible. I do a singer-songwriter thing with vocal and acoustic guitar. Ideally I'd like to have 3 tracks dedicated to the guitar with specific input FX and 3 tracks dedicated to my vocal with different FX. At this point I'm fuzzy on how to achieve that. I don't fully understand the difference between track FX and input FX. I was searching through your tutorials but I couldn't find the answer I was looking for. If you've already explained this, can you point me to the video? Thanks!
Hi Ben, thanks for your kind words. Great question - I'll be releasing some new content soon, going through the parameter guide step-by-step, and will be talking about input FX and track FX in more detail there. If you haven't already subscribed, consider doing so and you'll be able to check those vids out when I upload them later this week. But basically, input FX are applied to your instrument before you record it to the tracks, so could be used for the live performance and/or then recorded to each track depending on your preference, but track FX are not applied to the sound ad they are played, only once they've been recorded to the track. So your input FX can be applied to each individual instrument seperately as they are being recorded to the track, but then the track FX apply to the entire mix within that particular track, affecting all instruments on the track. Does that make sense?
Hey Ross! So this is great, but I've run into a problem that I hope you know a solution for. If I remove Mic 1 (my vocal) from a Track in order to just record my direct guitar, the Reverb input effect I have set to apply to ALL inputs is NOT recorded to the loop. Is there some way to assign inputs to tracks discreetly while also preserving input effects? If not, this puts a serious crimp in my ability to perform live loops. Thanks in advance for your help!
Cheers Ben. To answer your question, page 5 of the Parameter Guide explains that when input FX are set to all, the unit can't record inputs with FX if all tracks are not set to on. In your scenario, are you only recording your guitar on that particular track?
@@RossGallagherMusic Yes, what I'm trying to accomplish is to record a rhythm track on the guitar that I can loop while I'm singing. I don't want my voice or any extraneous sound to bleed into the loop from the vocal mic.
Have you considered using reverb as a track effect if you're just recording your guitar to that track? You could also get an xlr splitter, run that into both mic inputs and have a pedal assigned to mute one whilst you're recording so that the audience continues to hear you sing, but the unit doesn't record any audio from that mic. Hope this helps. Ross
Hi, very helpful, thank you! A previous comment mentions this ... there are six looper tracks, and 6 mono (or 3 stereo inputs and outputs) which suggests the recorded tracks are mono , and stereoized when routed through the track FX to the outputs. Is the limitation of 6 mono outputs a bottleneck due to having 6 output jacks, or because the tracks are stereoized mono recordings. Wondering because if they were fully stereo, you'd think using as a USB interface you would be be able to have 12 mono or 6 stereo tracks in the DAW, but seems to still be 6 mono/3 stereo (plus the drum track). 12 mono signals from the looper to computer is a lot, perhaps while there isn't an output jack limit with the USB connection , practically and for routing sanity, perhaps the 6 mono output jacks limitation on the RC is mirrored in the software when using USB? So for example when you plug in a synth, would you need to use 2 inputs and outputs to preserve the stereo? Thanks!
Hi Ross, Really appreciate your vids. Got a long question for you... I'm having trouble keeping my outputs isolated. They stick to their assigned destination before looping, but once I start looping, my signal is going to places unassigned. Stereo link is off on all inputs and outputs. I have an acoustic guitar running through an A/B Pedal. A is an electric amp. B is an acoustic amp. My goal is engage A & B while maintaining their independent outputs. I have A running through Input 1 L. This is going to Sub Out 1 L for Track 1 (all other outputs turned off).. so this is meant to only go to my electric amp I have B running through Input 2 L. This goes to Sub Out 2 L for Track 1 (all other outputs turned off).. so this is meant to only go to my acoustic amp. When I loop Track 1, the the outputs will mix. In other words, my electric amp pedals will be sounding through both amps instead of only the electric amp. Same with the acoustic amp pedals--signal goes to both places instead of only the acoustic. Any suggestions on how to keep these isolated?
Ross, I've finally got this setup on My RC. So nice to be able to send separate outputs to my mixer so that I can have individual control at my finger tips. Question though...This works great for songs for which each track is a separate instrument, but how do you handle this with a song that has multiple parts (verse, chorus, bridge). For example, I've got drums (HPD20) on track one (set up as multi), but then I would typically put keys, bass and guitar on track 2 (verse-single), keys, bass and guitar on track 3 (chorus-single), and maybe keys, bass and guitar on track 4 (bridge-single). In this scenario, it doesn't seem possible to separate each instrument to separate outputs. Am I missing something? Any ideas?
Great question. As far as I understand, it isn't possible to separate instruments once they've been recorded to a track, but I am working on an idea that will hopefully solve that particular issue. It won't work for everybody, but it should help those who like to work in single mode but want the separation to different sound sources or channels on their mixer. I've not actually tested the method out, but it works in my head 😆
@Mikael Lewis send me a message on Facebook and I'll try my best to explain it so you can check out if it works for you. I probably won't have chance to test the water until the weekend.
Is there a way to send instruments out to different outputs WITHOUT recording to different tracks? Say I record stomp and guitar onto one track. I want the rc600 to send the guitar to main out and the stomp to a sub out. I've tried every routing option and it always combines the instruments. I've done this with simpler loopers (the rc1 for instance). There has to be a way the rc600 can do it!
It is possible to separate instruments once they've been recorded to a track, but it's certainly more of a workaround than anything else. For example, guitar into Inst 1L and keys into Inst 2L. Let's say you want both of these recorded onto Track 1, but you need to split them into 2 separate outputs. You will need to turn on Stereo Link for all inputs and outputs, then plug a dummy cable or quarter inch connector into Inst 1R and Inst 2R (they don't need to be physically connected to anything, just fooling the device into thinking they're in use). Now you should have guitar running out of the Main L and keys out of Main R, despite them being recorded onto the same track. Hope this helps.
Hi Ross, thanks, great tutorials. Question: I am in single mode and I have each button 1 to 6 as: 1 intro 2 Verse 3 Bridge 4 Chorus 5 Break 6 empty.... the loops serve as my backing track. I also use a guitar and a mic to play and sing live over my backing tracks, above. for venue gigs, do you know if there is a way to all tracks loops say to output 3 only (so the venue mixer can adjust it as need be) and output 2 as guitar and 1 as voice. Does it make sense? Thanks a lot, great tutorials!
Hello Ross. I am brand new to this looper world. I followed your tutorial to the letter and now have 6 tracks to play with. Thank you so much. My question is do we have to save these changes somewhere or if we turn off our RC600 will we loose these settings and have to start all over again, rerouting everything?
You're very welcome, Geoff. When making any changes, you can just press ENTER and EXIT together and press WRITE to whichever memory you're on. When making changes to the entire System, I don't believe you have to go that, but I would anyway, just in case. Hope this helps!
Hello Ross. First of all thank you so much for your videos, they help the whole world! thanks!!! I need your help! With your explanations I configured mod2, buttons 1, 2, 3 and 4 for input effects, 5 and 6 to change between banks A, B, C and D. All right! The problem is that if I leave an active effect in Bank A, when I switch to Bank B the effects of A are deactivated, how can I keep them active and go to another bank?
Hi Thiago, thank you for you comment and kind words. I'm afraid to say that you can only use one bank of FX at any one time, which means when you switch to an alternate bank, any FX switched on in a previous bank will always deactivate. Does this answer your question? Ross
Hi Ross! First of all thanks a lot for these tutorials! When I separate the output channels, for some reason my input effects stop working. I have already restored to factory settings and repeated the process a few times but it keeps happening. I am running version 1.21 of the firmware.
You're most welcome. Unfortunately, it's not possible to keep the input FX working if you have routed things to separate outputs, which explains why you're having some issues. Not ideal, but the unit can't separate the signal if the FX are going to different places. Ross
This may be a stupid question: Let's say I did all this. I successfully rooted bass on instrument 1 input L to main output L, and electric guitar from instrument 1 input R to main output R. I hear both the electric guitar and the bass through their separate amps while playing, which is fine. Now, I added an electric mandolin, I'm using instrument 2 input L and root it to sub 1 output L, which is connected to a separate mandolin amp. My problem is I'm not hearing the mandolin through its separate amp while playing it, only after my playing was recorded on the track assigned to the mandolin amp. Is this to be expected? I was hoping that I can hear all of my instruments live while playing them, through their respective amps.
Ross thanks for a great explainer! Now to a question.. routing this way is there any way to record in parallel on two tracks (I am playing the bass part and guitar part simultaneously and the OC-5 needs a lot of EQ) :)
Unfortunately, I have to be the bearer of bad news and say that it's not currently possible to record on 2 tracks at the same time. Perhaps BOSS could look into this and see if it would be possible in a future update, though!
@@SheRobot hot off the press… Hi Tony. Thank you for contacting us at Roland. I´ll check this with a colleague that´s a product specialist and get back to you. All the best. Roland Customer Support
@@SheRobot they recommend recording L/R on one track. The problem is the guitar is stereo (in the studio) live it would be ok with L/R and mono. Still Roland have raised a feature request (I hope).
I have a question, I’ve done what you said to do. I have two instruments recording on the same loop, is there any way to split that tracks output? It’s coming through the mixer on both channels
Can you route the Mic to just the left or right side of a track? That would be awesome... but I don't think so? But, if anyone would know how... you probably would... haha.
If you turn Stereo Link ON for the Mic Input and Stereo Link ON for the output you intend to use, Main for example, this should allow you to achieve a L&R separation on the tracks. Plug your vocal mic into one Input and then run a dummy XLR into the 2nd Input (it doesn't need to be connected to anything), then the signal should split at the track and you should have one mic run to the L and the other dummy Input running to the R. Let me know if this works okay. Ross
Hi Ross, this is a strange one I use the 600 like this and I wanted to reduce my board by using the 600 insert FX and take the GT1 off the board. Now as soon as I take anything off Main L out it kills the FX they are not heard. I put Insert FX to my guitar track only, set them up to switch on and off great, then this killed it. If I sacrifice the output I hear the FX if I use it they don’t sound. so it’s really 5 mono out instead of 6 and I need the 6 so this is driving me nuts. Have you come across this or heard of it I’m on V1.4.
This could depend on how you have stereo link set up for your outputs, but most of the time the FX are not working correctly, is because they need to be set to a specific input. If the input bus is set to 'all', you won't hear them if things are routed to separate outputs. For example, if you set FX A (delay) to the Inst 1 (guitar) input, that should work fine. Hope this helps!
@@RossGallagherMusic Hi thanks for that, my stereo link was sent to off to split into the mono option and I set the input FX to my guitar input as that is the only one that would be using any FX and I could go to the output and flick the routing in and out and it was like an on/off switch for the FX. Everything routed out FX heard on the guitar anything taken out FX gone! I thought stereo link had to be off to get the 6 mono? Anyway if you haven’t encountered it then it must be unique to me I just can’t figure out why. I’ve followed all the steps for using mono channels and routing the FX and it’s like that. Thanks again, love the channel been a great help over the years.
good man ross!! quick question for a live sound scenario. would this setup allow a sound engineer to mix my sound on a typical mixer? i'll be playing festivals soon and i know they will freak out if they can't alter my instrument levels / EQ from their mixer.. i'll only be using 4 inputs / instruments though
Hello Ross, Great video. Thank you. I’m having a small issue that perhaps you can help me with I have turned off Stereo link to all inputs and outputs. I’ve also routed similar as you - with the intention of having six instruments coming into the looper each their own input, and with each going to a separate channel and separate output to separate amplifiers. Six independent channels, six inputs six outputs. When I have a loop playing on main left and that signal is exiting the left main out I hear it on the amplifier associated with that signal path. When I plug second cable into the second main in order to attach a second amp to run a separate signal from a separate channel, I loose the audio signal from the first main output - even though they are routed as separate channels. I hope you can provide me with your thoughts. If anybody else wants to chime in, please feel free. Thank you very much for reading.
Thanks for the message! Just to be clear; are you trying to send audio from a recorded loop to its own output? This only works if that recorded loop is associated with the instrument or instruments you wish to send it to. For example, if I use Track 1 for vocals, I can route my vocals to a specific output from there, but if I use Track 1 for vocals and guitar, I can't separate them to different outputs once they've been recorded to a track. Hope this makes sense? Ross
If you just want to control the seperate volume for each output, you can do this via the onboard mixer in the RC-600. Press ENTER to access the mixer and page across to find the level you want to adjust. If you wanted to make further adjustments, you could do this via an external mixer. Simply send all outputs to a designated channel on the mixer and have access to volume, EQ and any other external FX you may have. Hope this helps. Ross
@Rocky Peter excellent! If you want to use the physical knobs on the device to adjust levels of say, Tracks 1-4, that's possible. Saves you delving into the menu to make adjustments. You can do this by going into MENU>SETUP and changing the KNOB FUNCTION to TRK LEVEL (for whichever track you'd like it to control).
@Rocky Peter yep, it certainly is possible. It would disable the other ways of controlling the knob unless you switch the setting back to what it was doing before. But you can make these changes per memory so they could effectively be doing different things in each of you memories. By default, the 2 middle knobs don't control anything from the display screen anyway so might be useful to just change those to control loop levels and see if that works for you. Best of luck!
I can’t see any videos of you performing to show how to use what you’ve set up???? I can’t really think of a practical use for this set up other than using it like a six track tape recorder? OR could you record one section of a song with six different instruments and then go to another memory to record say, the chorus? Then go to other memories to record other sections! You could then turn individual instruments on an off and go between the different sections yeh…..prog rock looping at last???? Is itfinally possible dude? This would be what I’ve been wanting to do for years 😮
I don't post videos of me playing on this channel. It's only for educational purposes at the moment, but I will be making a video of all of my equipment very soon. I'll also upload a performance video in the next few weeks. I don't use all of the 6 ins and outs myself, but I do run 4 outputs into separate channels on my desk. Thanks, Ross
Hey Ross, Great video! Question/advice: What I’d like to do is record a song into a DAW (using Reaper because it appears GarageBand won’t allow it) where each track on the looper, such as guitar or keys, have their own track in the DAW. That way I can clean up various parts or instruments as needed after they are recorded. Is that possible? If so, any advice on executing this? So far I’m able to get each track on the looper separated but when I record I can only do one track at a time. I can record a whole song but the instruments are not separated so I can’t edit anything individually, such as volume, reverb, etc. I hope this makes sense lol Thanks again!
Thanks for the comment, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I've not done that myself, but I can point you to a video that might be of some use. Check out Nick's video here ua-cam.com/video/ztBfQLdZL5s/v-deo.htmlsi=WSO1HtVX5sM6VU59 He goes over how to set things up in Cubase, but it should hopefully give you an indication of how to get things working. Fingers 🤞 Ross
@@RossGallagherMusic I appreciate the quick reply. I’ve seen this video before which got me to where I am at so far. Just can’t figure out the multiple track recording part. If you come across it, you should make a video! You’re content is great!
I have 3 different instruments separated by input and output... is there a way to have each of these sent to 3 different loop/tracks but then have all 3 tracks controlled by one rec/play switch?
hey folks, this was great but im running into an audio issue with my main out with this setup. here's my signal chain: guitar>instrument 1 bass>instrument 2 guitar amp>main out bass amp> sub out 1. i set a routing so that guitar/track 1 goes to main out. bass/track 2 to sub out 1. the bass works fine, if I play a note with guitar, it immediately starts a loud/whomp type of sound, not feedback. any ideas?
i find the way BOSS claims 6 stereo tracks quite confusing. i don;t know much about mixer techniques but the way i interpreted it was that i could handle at the same time six stereo inputs which is obviously not the case. since we have at best 2 mics and 4 mono inputs what's the point of having 6 stereo tracks. to fill that in you would need 12 mono lines, right or you would be sharing some of the mono input between 2+ tracks. To be fair i'm sure i'm wrong somewhere ... i probably need to check more of your videos.
hmmmm...... this works, but in what application? Going into the mixer PRE RC600, with 6 direct outs, good luck, to get the functionality I think folks are after. Or, don't use a board. My conclusion so far
Thanks, besides the shaky camera work your videos have been very helpful switching over from the Headrush Looperboard to the RC600.
I'm so into your vids dude. Just got me an RC600 and getting around to working it all out and thankfully found you. Thanks for some ace info. Respect
Welcome aboard! Glad I've managed to help you out!
13 mins and a tonnnnnnnn of solid direction. thank you
Thank you for taking the time to comment, and I'm glad you found the video useful!
@@RossGallagherMusic welllllll :)
Great video man. I've been thinking of changing my looper from the Voicelive 3 so I can get more outputs so this is a great explaination. I'll be digging into more of your content ,thanks very much. Phil
Glad you think so, Phil. I hope you find the other content useful. Ross
Great video as always!
Thanks so much Alan!
@@RossGallagherMusic how do you control the track volumes individually on the loop pedal for each track. Please help. I got a gig tomorrow. This will be life saving.
Thank you for this, Ross. This is what I was trying to figure out yesterday when I’d commented on your other video.
Perfect!
Thank you
You're very welcome. Hope it helped!
So clear - thank you!
You're so welcome! Glad it was helpful.
Thanks for this dude!
Happy to help!
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Many thanks for your support! It truly is greatly appreciated. I hope you're finding the content valuable. Ross
Great job
Thanks, Jerry!
Hi Ross. I have a 2-part question for you...
1) You say one reason for making these changes is 'you'll have options to record input effects to each of your tracks'. I'm trying to get my head around why you would do that if you have access to track fx. Then it occurred to me that if it's possible to record a track with 4 i/p fx on stright onto track 1, you could then in theory add 4 additional track fx on the loop, potentially giving 8 fx on the track 1 loop - is that right and if so how'd you do it?
2) I got the RC600 to replace my RC500, separate guitar2bass pedal and other fx pedals. But with that set up I was able (using one source guitar) to record a bassline, guitar chords and guitar line all onto one track which has overdub layers (and all that in SINGLE mode so I could use my other track for a chorus loop). Is it possible to do the same thing with the RC600? I.E. using one input source (guitar), add the G2B fx on the RC600 to create a loop on track 1. Then overdub that loop on track 1 with chords and a different RC600 fx (say chorus). Then overdub the track one loop with a lead guitar with diff RC600fx (say, distortion). Then add more overdubs? I've attempted this, but if having recorded a track 1 loop with G2B fx on, when you switch that fx off ready to record the next overdub layer, the RC600 plays the loop with no G2B fx, so it does not record the guitar with the fx applied, just the clean guitar.
I'm looking to do this in SINGLE mode on one track to do a verse loop, then use the other tracks for chorus and break loops - that's the idea. Or, will I have to do it all in MULTI mode and use ONE track exclusively for a G2B part, then use track 2 to record chords with a chorus fx, then track 3 etc???
Thanks!
i think i have almost the same problem.. i have a e-guitar on my first input and a bass-guitar on the other.. i want to record in "singlemode" but the track does not seperate the output..
Thank you, very useful videos, and Channel! And do you have any ideas, about how to use two (or all) fx bank at same time?
Thanks, glad you're finding it useful! You can only use 4 input FX and 4 track FX at any one time, so it's not possible to have more than one FX bank on at the same time, unfortunately.
Im sad….😊 thank you
Great question and answer from @rossghallagermusic
Hey there great video! Very helpful! Just wondering hours could I record to instruments at the same time with separate outputs?
wow - thank you - now I need to figure out what to do with Rhythm
You're very welcome!
Hi Ross, your tutorials on RC-600 are fantastic. I just got the unit and have been trying to learn as much as possible. I do a singer-songwriter thing with vocal and acoustic guitar. Ideally I'd like to have 3 tracks dedicated to the guitar with specific input FX and 3 tracks dedicated to my vocal with different FX. At this point I'm fuzzy on how to achieve that. I don't fully understand the difference between track FX and input FX. I was searching through your tutorials but I couldn't find the answer I was looking for. If you've already explained this, can you point me to the video? Thanks!
Hi Ben, thanks for your kind words. Great question - I'll be releasing some new content soon, going through the parameter guide step-by-step, and will be talking about input FX and track FX in more detail there. If you haven't already subscribed, consider doing so and you'll be able to check those vids out when I upload them later this week. But basically, input FX are applied to your instrument before you record it to the tracks, so could be used for the live performance and/or then recorded to each track depending on your preference, but track FX are not applied to the sound ad they are played, only once they've been recorded to the track. So your input FX can be applied to each individual instrument seperately as they are being recorded to the track, but then the track FX apply to the entire mix within that particular track, affecting all instruments on the track. Does that make sense?
@@RossGallagherMusic thanks for responding. Yes, that makes sense.
Hey Ross! So this is great, but I've run into a problem that I hope you know a solution for. If I remove Mic 1 (my vocal) from a Track in order to just record my direct guitar, the Reverb input effect I have set to apply to ALL inputs is NOT recorded to the loop. Is there some way to assign inputs to tracks discreetly while also preserving input effects? If not, this puts a serious crimp in my ability to perform live loops. Thanks in advance for your help!
Cheers Ben. To answer your question, page 5 of the Parameter Guide explains that when input FX are set to all, the unit can't record inputs with FX if all tracks are not set to on. In your scenario, are you only recording your guitar on that particular track?
@@RossGallagherMusic Yes, what I'm trying to accomplish is to record a rhythm track on the guitar that I can loop while I'm singing. I don't want my voice or any extraneous sound to bleed into the loop from the vocal mic.
Have you considered using reverb as a track effect if you're just recording your guitar to that track? You could also get an xlr splitter, run that into both mic inputs and have a pedal assigned to mute one whilst you're recording so that the audience continues to hear you sing, but the unit doesn't record any audio from that mic. Hope this helps. Ross
Hi, very helpful, thank you! A previous comment mentions this ... there are six looper tracks, and 6 mono (or 3 stereo inputs and outputs) which suggests the recorded tracks are mono , and stereoized when routed through the track FX to the outputs. Is the limitation of 6 mono outputs a bottleneck due to having 6 output jacks, or because the tracks are stereoized mono recordings. Wondering because if they were fully stereo, you'd think using as a USB interface you would be be able to have 12 mono or 6 stereo tracks in the DAW, but seems to still be 6 mono/3 stereo (plus the drum track). 12 mono signals from the looper to computer is a lot, perhaps while there isn't an output jack limit with the USB connection , practically and for routing sanity, perhaps the 6 mono output jacks limitation on the RC is mirrored in the software when using USB? So for example when you plug in a synth, would you need to use 2 inputs and outputs to preserve the stereo? Thanks!
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Thanks, Ste!
Hi Ross,
Really appreciate your vids. Got a long question for you...
I'm having trouble keeping my outputs isolated. They stick to their assigned destination before looping, but once I start looping, my signal is going to places unassigned.
Stereo link is off on all inputs and outputs.
I have an acoustic guitar running through an A/B Pedal. A is an electric amp. B is an acoustic amp. My goal is engage A & B while maintaining their independent outputs.
I have A running through Input 1 L. This is going to Sub Out 1 L for Track 1 (all other outputs turned off).. so this is meant to only go to my electric amp
I have B running through Input 2 L. This goes to Sub Out 2 L for Track 1 (all other outputs turned off).. so this is meant to only go to my acoustic amp.
When I loop Track 1, the the outputs will mix. In other words, my electric amp pedals will be sounding through both amps instead of only the electric amp. Same with the acoustic amp pedals--signal goes to both places instead of only the acoustic.
Any suggestions on how to keep these isolated?
Ross, I've finally got this setup on My RC. So nice to be able to send separate outputs to my mixer so that I can have individual control at my finger tips. Question though...This works great for songs for which each track is a separate instrument, but how do you handle this with a song that has multiple parts (verse, chorus, bridge). For example, I've got drums (HPD20) on track one (set up as multi), but then I would typically put keys, bass and guitar on track 2 (verse-single), keys, bass and guitar on track 3 (chorus-single), and maybe keys, bass and guitar on track 4 (bridge-single). In this scenario, it doesn't seem possible to separate each instrument to separate outputs. Am I missing something? Any ideas?
Great question. As far as I understand, it isn't possible to separate instruments once they've been recorded to a track, but I am working on an idea that will hopefully solve that particular issue. It won't work for everybody, but it should help those who like to work in single mode but want the separation to different sound sources or channels on their mixer. I've not actually tested the method out, but it works in my head 😆
@@RossGallagherMusic awesome I’ll look forward to hearing more
@Mikael Lewis send me a message on Facebook and I'll try my best to explain it so you can check out if it works for you. I probably won't have chance to test the water until the weekend.
@@RossGallagherMusic Did you figure out how to do this?
I have the same question
Is there a way to send instruments out to different outputs WITHOUT recording to different tracks?
Say I record stomp and guitar onto one track.
I want the rc600 to send the guitar to main out and the stomp to a sub out.
I've tried every routing option and it always combines the instruments.
I've done this with simpler loopers (the rc1 for instance). There has to be a way the rc600 can do it!
It is possible to separate instruments once they've been recorded to a track, but it's certainly more of a workaround than anything else.
For example, guitar into Inst 1L and keys into Inst 2L. Let's say you want both of these recorded onto Track 1, but you need to split them into 2 separate outputs. You will need to turn on Stereo Link for all inputs and outputs, then plug a dummy cable or quarter inch connector into Inst 1R and Inst 2R (they don't need to be physically connected to anything, just fooling the device into thinking they're in use).
Now you should have guitar running out of the Main L and keys out of Main R, despite them being recorded onto the same track.
Hope this helps.
Hi Ross, thanks, great tutorials. Question: I am in single mode and I have each button 1 to 6 as:
1 intro
2 Verse
3 Bridge
4 Chorus
5 Break
6 empty....
the loops serve as my backing track.
I also use a guitar and a mic to play and sing live over my backing tracks, above.
for venue gigs, do you know if there is a way to all tracks loops say to output 3 only (so the venue mixer can adjust it as need be) and output 2 as guitar and 1 as voice.
Does it make sense?
Thanks a lot, great tutorials!
Hello Ross. I am brand new to this looper world. I followed your tutorial to the letter and now have 6 tracks to play with. Thank you so much. My question is do we have to save these changes somewhere or if we turn off our RC600 will we loose these settings and have to start all over again, rerouting everything?
You're very welcome, Geoff. When making any changes, you can just press ENTER and EXIT together and press WRITE to whichever memory you're on. When making changes to the entire System, I don't believe you have to go that, but I would anyway, just in case. Hope this helps!
Thanks again!
Hello Ross. First of all thank you so much for your videos, they help the whole world! thanks!!!
I need your help!
With your explanations I configured mod2, buttons 1, 2, 3 and 4 for input effects, 5 and 6 to change between banks A, B, C and D. All right!
The problem is that if I leave an active effect in Bank A, when I switch to Bank B the effects of A are deactivated, how can I keep them active and go to another bank?
Hi Thiago, thank you for you comment and kind words.
I'm afraid to say that you can only use one bank of FX at any one time, which means when you switch to an alternate bank, any FX switched on in a previous bank will always deactivate. Does this answer your question? Ross
Hi Ross!
First of all thanks a lot for these tutorials!
When I separate the output channels, for some reason my input effects stop working.
I have already restored to factory settings and repeated the process a few times but it keeps happening.
I am running version 1.21 of the firmware.
You're most welcome. Unfortunately, it's not possible to keep the input FX working if you have routed things to separate outputs, which explains why you're having some issues. Not ideal, but the unit can't separate the signal if the FX are going to different places. Ross
Hmm I don't have any sound from mixer .maybe run an out from phone to mixer..Great job going out to various appropriate amps .
Cheers, Dan. I hope you're finding the videos useful.
This may be a stupid question:
Let's say I did all this. I successfully rooted bass on instrument 1 input L to main output L, and electric guitar from instrument 1 input R to main output R. I hear both the electric guitar and the bass through their separate amps while playing, which is fine.
Now, I added an electric mandolin, I'm using instrument 2 input L and root it to sub 1 output L, which is connected to a separate mandolin amp.
My problem is I'm not hearing the mandolin through its separate amp while playing it, only after my playing was recorded on the track assigned to the mandolin amp.
Is this to be expected?
I was hoping that I can hear all of my instruments live while playing them, through their respective amps.
Wouldn't plugging in a mono line in and changing it to stereo on the rc600 sacrifice tone or volume?
I haven't noticed much of a difference in tone or volume, but I always recommend using a quality instrument cable.
Ross thanks for a great explainer! Now to a question.. routing this way is there any way to record in parallel on two tracks (I am playing the bass part and guitar part simultaneously and the OC-5 needs a lot of EQ) :)
Unfortunately, I have to be the bearer of bad news and say that it's not currently possible to record on 2 tracks at the same time. Perhaps BOSS could look into this and see if it would be possible in a future update, though!
@@RossGallagherMusic Thanks Ross that’s what I suspected. Oh well I will raise a request with Boss and see how far I get :)
@@antonyd64 I second that! Please keep us posted!
@@SheRobot hot off the press…
Hi Tony.
Thank you for contacting us at Roland.
I´ll check this with a colleague that´s a product specialist and get back to you.
All the best.
Roland Customer Support
@@SheRobot they recommend recording L/R on one track. The problem is the guitar is stereo (in the studio) live it would be ok with L/R and mono. Still Roland have raised a feature request (I hope).
I have a question, I’ve done what you said to do. I have two instruments recording on the same loop, is there any way to split that tracks output? It’s coming through the mixer on both channels
Can you route the Mic to just the left or right side of a track? That would be awesome... but I don't think so? But, if anyone would know how... you probably would... haha.
If you turn Stereo Link ON for the Mic Input and Stereo Link ON for the output you intend to use, Main for example, this should allow you to achieve a L&R separation on the tracks. Plug your vocal mic into one Input and then run a dummy XLR into the 2nd Input (it doesn't need to be connected to anything), then the signal should split at the track and you should have one mic run to the L and the other dummy Input running to the R.
Let me know if this works okay. Ross
Hi Ross, this is a strange one I use the 600 like this and I wanted to reduce my board by using the 600 insert FX and take the GT1 off the board. Now as soon as I take anything off Main L out it kills the FX they are not heard. I put Insert FX to my guitar track only, set them up to switch on and off great, then this killed it. If I sacrifice the output I hear the FX if I use it they don’t sound. so it’s really 5 mono out instead of 6 and I need the 6 so this is driving me nuts.
Have you come across this or heard of it I’m on V1.4.
This could depend on how you have stereo link set up for your outputs, but most of the time the FX are not working correctly, is because they need to be set to a specific input. If the input bus is set to 'all', you won't hear them if things are routed to separate outputs. For example, if you set FX A (delay) to the Inst 1 (guitar) input, that should work fine.
Hope this helps!
@@RossGallagherMusic Hi thanks for that, my stereo link was sent to off to split into the mono option and I set the input FX to my guitar input as that is the only one that would be using any FX and I could go to the output and flick the routing in and out and it was like an on/off switch for the FX. Everything routed out FX heard on the guitar anything taken out FX gone! I thought stereo link had to be off to get the 6 mono? Anyway if you haven’t encountered it then it must be unique to me I just can’t figure out why. I’ve followed all the steps for using mono channels and routing the FX and it’s like that.
Thanks again, love the channel been a great help over the years.
good man ross!!
quick question for a live sound scenario.
would this setup allow a sound engineer to mix my sound on a typical mixer?
i'll be playing festivals soon and i know they will freak out if they can't alter my instrument levels / EQ from their mixer..
i'll only be using 4 inputs / instruments though
Absolutely! Each output can go to its own channel on their desk and they'll then be able to Alger each input/instrument independently. Ross
Hello Ross,
Great video. Thank you. I’m having a small issue that perhaps you can help me with I have turned off Stereo link to all inputs and outputs. I’ve also routed similar as you - with the intention of having six instruments coming into the looper each their own input, and with each going to a separate channel and separate output to separate amplifiers. Six independent channels, six inputs six outputs.
When I have a loop playing on main left and that signal is exiting the left main out I hear it on the amplifier associated with that signal path.
When I plug second cable into the second main in order to attach a second amp to run a separate signal from a separate channel, I loose the audio signal from the first main output - even though they are routed as separate channels.
I hope you can provide me with your thoughts. If anybody else wants to chime in, please feel free. Thank you very much for reading.
Thanks for the message! Just to be clear; are you trying to send audio from a recorded loop to its own output? This only works if that recorded loop is associated with the instrument or instruments you wish to send it to. For example, if I use Track 1 for vocals, I can route my vocals to a specific output from there, but if I use Track 1 for vocals and guitar, I can't separate them to different outputs once they've been recorded to a track. Hope this makes sense? Ross
How do you mix this 6 individual tracks separately? Like how do you make sure that each track has a separate volume output? Please help.
If you just want to control the seperate volume for each output, you can do this via the onboard mixer in the RC-600. Press ENTER to access the mixer and page across to find the level you want to adjust. If you wanted to make further adjustments, you could do this via an external mixer. Simply send all outputs to a designated channel on the mixer and have access to volume, EQ and any other external FX you may have. Hope this helps. Ross
@@RossGallagherMusic That was helpful. Thanks. I just figured out that when you click, loop, then track. You can adjust play levels. 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@Rocky Peter excellent! If you want to use the physical knobs on the device to adjust levels of say, Tracks 1-4, that's possible. Saves you delving into the menu to make adjustments. You can do this by going into MENU>SETUP and changing the KNOB FUNCTION to TRK LEVEL (for whichever track you'd like it to control).
@@RossGallagherMusic Wow!! That's possible? Would it affect the other original functions of the Knob?
@Rocky Peter yep, it certainly is possible. It would disable the other ways of controlling the knob unless you switch the setting back to what it was doing before. But you can make these changes per memory so they could effectively be doing different things in each of you memories. By default, the 2 middle knobs don't control anything from the display screen anyway so might be useful to just change those to control loop levels and see if that works for you. Best of luck!
I can’t see any videos of you performing to show how to use what you’ve set up???? I can’t really think of a practical use for this set up other than using it like a six track tape recorder? OR could you record one section of a song with six different instruments and then go to another memory to record say, the chorus? Then go to other memories to record other sections! You could then turn individual instruments on an off and go between the different sections yeh…..prog rock looping at last???? Is itfinally possible dude? This would be what I’ve been wanting to do for years 😮
I don't post videos of me playing on this channel. It's only for educational purposes at the moment, but I will be making a video of all of my equipment very soon. I'll also upload a performance video in the next few weeks. I don't use all of the 6 ins and outs myself, but I do run 4 outputs into separate channels on my desk. Thanks, Ross
You can do what you want without changing anything. You can do it in default settings.
Hey Ross,
Great video! Question/advice: What I’d like to do is record a song into a DAW (using Reaper because it appears GarageBand won’t allow it) where each track on the looper, such as guitar or keys, have their own track in the DAW. That way I can clean up various parts or instruments as needed after they are recorded. Is that possible? If so, any advice on executing this?
So far I’m able to get each track on the looper separated but when I record I can only do one track at a time. I can record a whole song but the instruments are not separated so I can’t edit anything individually, such as volume, reverb, etc.
I hope this makes sense lol
Thanks again!
Thanks for the comment, and I'm glad you enjoyed the video. I've not done that myself, but I can point you to a video that might be of some use. Check out Nick's video here ua-cam.com/video/ztBfQLdZL5s/v-deo.htmlsi=WSO1HtVX5sM6VU59
He goes over how to set things up in Cubase, but it should hopefully give you an indication of how to get things working. Fingers 🤞
Ross
@@RossGallagherMusic I appreciate the quick reply. I’ve seen this video before which got me to where I am at so far. Just can’t figure out the multiple track recording part. If you come across it, you should make a video! You’re content is great!
where did you get the button covers?
I bought them from Amazon. Search Mooer Pedal Toppers, I'll do a video on them soon! Ross
Mrans 6 artists can use this together in live performances too???
I have 3 different instruments separated by input and output... is there a way to have each of these sent to 3 different loop/tracks but then have all 3 tracks controlled by one rec/play switch?
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hey folks, this was great but im running into an audio issue with my main out with this setup. here's my signal chain: guitar>instrument 1 bass>instrument 2 guitar amp>main out bass amp> sub out 1. i set a routing so that guitar/track 1 goes to main out. bass/track 2 to sub out 1. the bass works fine, if I play a note with guitar, it immediately starts a loud/whomp type of sound, not feedback. any ideas?
i think i figured it out but now the auto-start doesn't kick on for track 1/input 1?
i find the way BOSS claims 6 stereo tracks quite confusing. i don;t know much about mixer techniques but the way i interpreted it was that i could handle at the same time six stereo inputs which is obviously not the case. since we have at best 2 mics and 4 mono inputs what's the point of having 6 stereo tracks. to fill that in you would need 12 mono lines, right or you would be sharing some of the mono input between 2+ tracks. To be fair i'm sure i'm wrong somewhere ... i probably need to check more of your videos.
...and the rythm?
hmmmm...... this works, but in what application? Going into the mixer PRE RC600, with 6 direct outs, good luck, to get the functionality I think folks are after. Or, don't use a board. My conclusion so far