Also says the difference of being low on fuel and full of fuel. Alonso at that time had full tank, were raikkonen was lower on fuel so as there is less fuel there is less weight so you can be faster.
@@raketman101 2003 He lost championship by two point 🤨 In european gp he retired from the 1st place. He retired 3 times from the race when schumacher just once.
Kimi Raikkonen, a should be three time world champion, great thing about Kimi is that given him the fastest I. E the best car during a season could somehow not make him champion, but given him a second or third fastest car during a season makes him much much better driver... As in 2007 season showed
2 for me, in 2003, Montoya has very well, if he had not disaster penalty (for me) in GP USA (sorry for my english). But i understand, because Kimi had also a 2002 mclaren ^^'
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos Both Alonso and Raikkonen should have at least 2 more championships. Yes, Hamilton and Vettel are good but can't deny they were both carried by their cars.
@@maling9915 look man, if he loses out big time during a two race before Brazil that year, going there he might not have a chance to beat the McLarens, but all season he drove consistently so I think he deserved that year's title...
And they werent show. On par with 2021 cars, Faster than 2018. Without slicks and drs. They were lighter and Still very powerful wihout kers/hybrid engine
They actually were faster now cars have more downforce so then corner better and carry speed but nothing beats the 900hp all natural aspirated 3.0L V10’s 😏
I think it was Marko, they claimed Bernoldi was the GOAT and they wanted him at Sauber, im guessing Petter wanted Kimi but yeah I mean he had only like 15 races in single seaters.
@@persezyra Official stories pegged Max Mosley as having the doubt on giving Raikkonen his super license. Unless there's other news about Marko being the manipulator being the scenes, I'm open to reading the sources you have. Especially since Peter Sauber was quoted as openly saying he wanted Kimi at Sauber
Marko is Red Bull's advisor for quite some time, he's still responsable for the RB Academy team I think. Back in 2000 due to poor results they wanted Heidfeld and upcoming Bernoldi who was personally sponsored by Red Bull Sauber's major sponsor then, Petter signed Kimi and as a protest Red Bull sold part of their shares to a Swiss bank (Credit Issue I think IT was called). Marko representing Red Bull wanted Bernoldi, Petter wanted Kimi, Mosley said he was dangerous having an unexperienced driver in F1 but I dont think at any point he denied him a Superlicence. Sauber was tied to Red Bull since like 1995 they are Austrian like Marko and they sponsored Berger also Austrian before that, for a smaller team like Sauber losing them would have been a huge loss, it was more of a Red Bull (Marko) Veto on Kimi as i see IT. IIRC Kimi wasnt meant to debut in F1 until 2003.
Most importantly, he wasn't Schumi. I'll be honest, my sympathy for Williams and McLaren stems from that period, and the fact that they didn't have Schumacher under contract.
@Traverse1010 Yes, other than 2004 because F2004 was just in another league. in 05 and 03, other than all the DNF, he was consistantly on the podium/ wins. The reliability of the McL really failed him
@@gnaagren ahh nahh. Ferrari clearly having the best car during that period apart from two year period of Renault. Schumi will never win WDC in mclaren or Williams during this era.
@@masrimus1607 what do you mean, "nahh?" Why do you feel the need to disagree with me, when I'm telling you why I like McLaren and Williams? I feel like I would be the authority on that.
I remember that 2005 Monaco GP like it was yesterday. Commentators were questioning the decision to keep Kimi out during the SC. Then he pulled 35 seconds in about 20 laps...
This F1 cars were wonderful. The competiton was incredible. Michael Schumacher, Fernando Alonso, Kimi Raikkonen, Juan Pablo Montoya wow! Very underrated F1 period in my opinion.
Remember Kimi almost beat Schumi when Shumi still was in his absolut prime when Kimi only been in F1 couple of years, only 2 points or something like that behind Schumi in the championship...
@@masrimus1607 maybe so, but more like 75%. If 90% of the performance came from the car, then how did Alonso drag his Ferrari to world championship contention, or how did Schumacher manage to come 3rd in the championship in 1996 with that shitbox that only deserved 6th in the title?
I remember being kinda jaded at first, I was a HUGE Haakinen fan, and it felt like McLaren just 'plugged in' another Finnish driver hoping nobody would notice. But then Kimi blew my socks off with his pure car control at speed. He clearly had the most talent, in a period when there was SO MUCH talent. Two of these drivers STILL race in F1, STILL have the measure of their young-gun team-mates. 2021, now. Honestly, I've watched F1 all my conscious life. '82 is the first championship I remember. But this was one of the peaks, if not THE peak. You never knew what brilliance would come next. They were creative drives, they HAD to be creative, to beat each other. Kimi, Alonso, Montoya and The Michael, could all stun you on a Sunday with sheer & utter brilliance of performance, on levels unseen in any other field of human endeavour. Anyway, thanks for uploading.
No, Michael always had the most talent. Fucking Kimi couldn't outdrive Massa who michael not in his prime made look like a GP2 driver. Barrichello was so much better than Massa and yet Kimi was outdriven. Yet another in the list of Newey carried drivers, most notably Vettel couldn't handle business outside of kimi without newey's car
@@dxfifa I think you should read my comment again, just to study how to sound vaguely intelligent, rather than a yammering yob with - ooo watch out - AN OPINION!?
@@dxfifa No. But it IS obvious to anyone reading your nonsense that you have absolutely NONE. As is evidenced by your utterly bereft 'channel' and lack of perceiving The Iceman's obvious skill behind the wheel.
Kimi with the MP4/20 it's one of the best combination driver-car ever. Reliability of the Mercedes engine was a shame, not only on race, on FPs and everywhere. He should have been champion in 2005. Clearly the best driver of the season by far.
If Kimi had had the same reliability as those he fought for the title he'd be a three time world champion now. If some "team" actually bothered to designing and setting up the car after Kimi's input he'd be a four time champion now. If Lotus wasn't broke and a shoe-string operation one can only speculate what would have happened in 2013... Put Kimi in the 2021 Red Bull and he'd be right behind Verstappen in the point standings.
@Ponfi McLaren unreliability wasn't just the engine. It was the driveshaft, tyre valve, hydraulics, heat shield. Kimi was faster than anyone, he didn't need the fastest car to dominate in 2003 or 2005. McLaren let him down as every McLaren engineer admits today.
Great point you made there !!! The foolish Ferrari's guys. They just didn't bother to design a car in their best driver and raining champion terms. How foolish that can be. (foolish is the innocent way to describe the inner-ferrari controversies at that time. Kimi paid the price again...)
Especially 2008 was disgraceful in Ferrari. They had the fresh world champion, motivated and in shape, and what they do? They decide to put everything on Felipe Massa for political reasons. The 2007 world champion was basically the 2nd driver in Ferrari for 2008. Absolute lunacy and insanity, but as we know very well Ferrari has a habit of screwing themselves with inside games and politics. Hamilton wouldn't have sniffed his first title if Ferrari treated their champion as 1st driver, and setting up/developing the car accordingly.
It's almost a crime that Kimi only has one WDC and people don't understand to rank him higher in the all time greats lists. He was so unbelievably fast in his McLaren days. Even Ron Dennis said he was the fastest driver he had ever seen. And this from a guy who had Senna, Prost, Hakkinen, Lauda in his team.
I still like F1 mind you, but I wish the cars weren't so heavy and long. They're quick as hell, but the camera work doesn't do them justice, and tracks like Monaco make overtaking only possible through the pitlane.
To all the people saying Kimi should be multiple world champion. THANK YOU !! Such a shame McLaren had those reliability issues. But peak Kimi when that car was working was untouchable
The current cars are too planted. It seems like they just want the lap times to go down every year, but that's not what f1 should be about. Maybe they're afraid other series will catch up, but it's still the pinnacle of motorsport even if it's not the fastest. We want exciting cars that cost more money than any other cars in the world. That's all.
Problem is the weight and size., which 2022 doesn't address. The 2022 cars are going to have less downforce, so they'll be harder to drive, and they'll get rid of the dirty air problem for the most part. But the lie for the last few years has been that dirty air is why nobody can overtake. That's not true. The reason no one can overtake is because the cars are so wide and heavy, they don't turn in anymore. These cars, you could push and push all race and somehow find a few tenths a lap, because the track was faster then the cars.. The only limitation was the driver, and how hard they were willing to push on the track, how hard they could push without finding a wall. Modern F1, the set up and car determine your pace more then driver skill and creativity. The car is faster then the track, you can't drive it harder and find speed. If you push harder you just end up finding the wall straight away. My solution is driver controlled aero, like they control the diff and brake bias. Just give them more tools to work with. You can't make the cars go faster with 2 feet and a steering wheel anymore, so give them more tools to find that pace.
I don’t care if Hamilton had 7 tittles ...For me after Senna ,Kimi is the best ever.Without Mclaren problems,unlucky,team order last year’s in Ferrari ,he could win title at least another 5 times
@AGIX Sniper You'll be hated on because it's not the right place to say it, and Kimi in his prime was mind-numbingly fast, but...yeah. He was never even close to being as adaptable as Alonso, or as impressive in weaker cars, and his peak was much shorter to boot. He deserved the 2007 title, if only as compensation for his awful luck at McLaren, but he's not an Alonso, Schumacher, or Hamilton.
@@INFEDnoX I like how your standard is being adaptable and impressive in weak cars, and then you put Hamilton up there. Hamilton's never been adaptable, while he might not have had the most dominant car in 2008, it was definitely on even footing with the Ferrari, and certainly wasn't put in a position to struggle. And after that he only got back to impressive with the completely dominant Mercedes era. You put Kimi in that Mercedes he'd win championships too. If you're not gonna put Kimi up there for being in the sport for 20 years and being competitive for a good chunk of it, then don't put Hamilton in either. Championships aren't everything
@@CharlesFreck Hamilton was poor in 2011 when they switched to the degradable Pirellis because he couldn't use his raw pace anymore and he floundered. Then, one year later, he comprehensively outperformed his world champion teammate and was arguably as strong as Alonso were it not for a slew of awful reliability issues and terrible McLaren management. How is that not a shining example of adaptability, especially compared to someone like Kimi, who could never replicate his incredible pace at McLaren? 2009 is also a good example as well, albeit with a weaker teammate to compare against. I have no idea how you could look at 2010 or 2012 and say they weren't impressive years from Hamilton, who was probably the second best driver behind Alonso, or even 2009, where he had one of the all-time qualifying performances at Abu Dhabi (nearly a second ahead of P2) and finished P4 in the car even before the upgrades during the summer break. Or hell, even in 2011 he had his incredible raw pace (look at Korea).
Kimi never really turned up at Ferrari (2014-18). Team orders were there because he never was a serious contender for the title, unlike Vettel who was the biggest threat to Mercedes dominance. In McLaren years he could have won a championship in two occasions. So maybe he could have 2 or 3 titles max, I don't see where 5 times more come from.
I don't think there was a bigger fan of Kimi on the grid than Jenson Button...he just loves his speed, his skill and his fairness. I think Kimi's qualifying lap for this race is my all time favourite...it really is Raikkonen at his best.
@@oktayyilmaz5134 the car was fast and pretty. But it kept breaking down so in the hands of a top tier driver it can win races but that breaking down part means it cant win the the title. İf the car was second slower but never broke down kimi would of won the championship.
@@Andrewza1 first of all..2005 one tyre rule was so absurd..And like Ferrari, it ruined Mclarens season also..For example Kimis Europe last lap failure was not the car's fault..it would happen at least 1 race eventually anyway..2005 car was the best car Mclaren ever produced in 2000's years...So it was miles far being shit..that sentence is absurd...Even without serious regulations it might win in 2006..İt was beautiful and an aerodynamic gem for me..Bad lucks can happen 2 or 3 races in a 17 race season..Also Mclaren pit crew and team strategists had faults in this..
Another driver I also really rate is JPM. He also came in to a team and car built around Kimi and didnt suit his driving style which was also very effective. He still outqualified Kimi at Spa that year. To me that also sets Montoya apart as one of the great drivers drivers
I loved JPM growing up. I still have a general dislikes for the name 'Verstappen' after the Brazil incident. Never really felt he fit in with Ron Dennis' very rigid corporate attitude at mclaren. Think he would enjoy it much more there now.
@GT012345tube id disagree. JPM was world champ material. Raw talent like Kimi. The only reason he struggled at Mclaren was he didnt suit the car which was developed for Kimi. Even then he still beat Kimi at Spa in quali. If that isnt raw talent I dont know what is. Could take a can of whoop ass to MS and anyone on any day. Guy had talent way beyond a Ricciardo.
This 2005. McLaren car was a beast, best chassis, most powerful engine with poor reliability of the same...I remember when Alonso said one time, that McL have more fuel then they in q time and have same or batter time then renault... Also Kimi have some bad races with strange problem, tire on Nirburgring....
@@motornaut have not missed watching,reading or being their since 1969, he is truly a 10+ above all of the F1 Drivers every year he has raced, Kimi is a modern day Tazio Nuvolari.
To be fair, the Ferrari's that year weren't even in contention for anything. With that said, Kimi should have won 2005. He had the right car performance-wise (outside of reliability) and was just blazingly fast when he needed to be. Alonso should have won 2012 instead.
Kimi only performed like this at one team. Massa was busy barely scraping by villeneuve then destroyed by Michael making Rubens look like a star. Then equal with Kimi.....
Kimi was fast but then that McLaren was dominant in performance, it was just pluaged with reliability issues And Schumacher took the fastest lap with a 1:15
Look where Montoya was - look at the gap he built in 15 laps. He backed off as soon as he had the margin he needed. Kimi was unbeatable. Michael was nowhere in this race.
Kimi was in his way to become a legend in those years... He would become one of the greatest... Sadly he lost his peak in the middle of 2008... He recovered his touch during the Lotus years, but he lost it again... I respect him, glad to see him become champion just when he deserved most.
He didn't lose it. He just didn't get cars that were well suited for him. Ferrari repeatedly gave him a car that behaved literally the opposite to what Kimi wanted. I will contend that he would still be faster than half of the grid, including Bottas, Perez, and quite possibly Vettel, if given equal cars.
f1 regulations and cheese tyre took it away from him.....nowadays f1 regs doesnt allow soft touch driver to excel.... it's amazing how Kimi hold on being handicaped.
Kimi had the margin he needed and backed off....he finished way ahead of MSC in this race.....when he was pushing to build the gap he was miles quicker than anyone. At Monaco you only push when you NEED to.
@@ciaronsmith4995 yeah but Michael was already a lap down so would never get close and did set the fastest lap of the race. Kimi was the fastest guy in the fastest car but your title is wrong because only Alonso was that slow in this race because of the tyres.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Not taking anything away from Kimi. He could've won the 2005 championship if the McMerc was more reliable. But, the FIA introduced the '05 rules primarily to curb Ferrari's and Bridgestone's dominance. The F2005 would've been a monster if the curbs weren't in place. But, woulda, coulda, shoulda..
@@toothlessrage282 If the rules hadn't changed, instead of McLaren vs Renault, it could have been Ferrari vs McLaren vs Renault. The rule change was stupid.
What do you mean? In the video you can see Schumacher posted the fastest lap of the race up to that point, so that means it wasnt that Michael was going fast only because Kimi had slowed down
I think that Alonso tried to do a one stop strategy putting a lot of fuel into the car, making it very heavy and finally destroying his race, because he was overtaken by both BMW Williams by the final part of the race, and crossing the line in 4th position. Anyway, the 2005 Kim-McLaren combo was scary, the fastest of the field. Reliability did not help against a very consistent Alonso and a more reliable Renault.
Title: Kimi Raikkonen - 3 seconds a lap faster than Alonso, Michael Schumacher or Montoya Reality: Kimi Raikkonen is slower than Michael Schumacher in a red tractor 6:07
@@ciaronsmith4995 As the commentators have pointed out, he was trying to pull a gap for his pitstop so no, he didn't back off. He was pushing on an empty tank.
Nah. It was him. You're comparing different eras that have nothing to do with each other. On the Michelin tyre he was the best driver by far. Vettel is nothing compared to Kimi especially. He faced Kimi at 39 years old. Enough.
@@pmatias Yeah look at Alonso, his teammate is Stroll. Enough ok? It's enough now. Kimi beat Giovinazzi 3 years in a row from 40-42 years old. Kimi is older than Alonso.
@@ciaronsmith4995 remember Stroll was close to Vettel. Kimi is overrated as long as Vettel. Vettel was destroyed by Riccardo, Leclerc... Kimi by many in his career. I say destroyed when there is a huge difference. Verstappen destroys everybody, Alonso sometimes destroys, sometime no, but never has been destroyed. That puts Verstappen and Alonso top notch of last years. Hamilton also but its irregular sometimes last years and 2009-2013.
@@pmatias Kimi was way older and Vettel was past it by then in Aston. Stop clutching at straws. Either you are new or not knowledgeable. Kimi during the tyre war was a totally different driver with the most extreme driving style I've ever seen. Do you even understand basic F1? Shocking. Nobody is quicker than 2003-2006 Kimi this century. Kimi was never destroyed on pure performance. He had only 4 bad seasons, all down to car setup issues / politics. Never his own inherent speed.
Kimi pitted on LAP 42!!! Alonso pitted on Lap 25!! You will never be 3 seconds slower in that scenario unless one driver is driving beyond the limits. On top of that Montoya was nowhere in the same car and pitted similar time to Kimi.
Now you have the same amount of fuel as everyone else and you're probably in the same tire strategy too. What I miss from this era is that every driver was in his own race with different strategy. We didn't have much overtaking but the race was always interesting in terms of how the race will end up.
For me kimi is the cleanest driver... always on fair side... with minimum incidents... giving consistant performances even in inferior cars... its really sad that kimi didnt win few more titles.... one of the most unlucky drivers of f1... when he was at peak...reliability of the car was poor really it was a treat to watch kimi stroming thru the circuit in that mclaren..... a reliable car should have made him unstoppable 😍😍
For me they were more nimble from a visual point of view. The new era cars don't have that piont to piont darty ability. Especially high speed chicanes and low speed chicanes and high speed left and right turns. Just watch how quickly they could flick a car into a corner. The new cars with those heavy batteries can't perform at the same level in agility.
McLaren fan supported mika hakkinen. And then kimi ❤️ all the way till 2009. And followed him with lotus and ferrari. Now finally saying good bye this year. We always choose one winning horse in f1 to continue to entertain us. I have Signed CL16 for the next 10 yrs atleast. 😉
There are two things I remember from when I first watched formula one at my grandparents house. 1. Screaming engines 2. crappy onboard cameras that did this all the time 2:17 :D
2007 McLaren was better for starters. 2005 was not even close to being the best non-champion car. Montoya finished behind a Ferrari in it, it was super unreliable. Reliability is part of being a good car, Kimi had 4-10 place grid penalties + 3 retirements from the lead. The 2007 McLaren, 2009 Red Bull, 1994/1995 Williams and 2006 Ferrari were all better cars that didn't win.
@@dxfifa 2006 Ferrari was a rocketship. Kimi said it was the best Ferrari he ever drove in Finnish media recently (he tested it at Vallelunga in 2006/2007). As Chris Dyer said, that should have been an easy title win, but MSC dropped the ball in Australia, Monaco and Hungary. Thank goodness for Kimi in 2007, despite the fact Kimi HATED the Bridgestone tyres and handling in his first years at a new team. His consistency from France 2007 onwards was insane and more impressive than anything MSC did in 2003 or from 2005-2006. Kimi at McLaren/Michelins was also a different beast, as we all know, Kimi was the best driver according to Michelin engineers who could not believe how good his feedback was.
@@ciaronsmith4995 no it fucking wasn't lmao the 2007 Mclaren was garbage and carried by the drivers. You are literally rating them on results based analysis and ignoring the obviously superior drivers of alonso and Hamilton making up the difference in 2007. Raikkonen and montoya and De la Rosa in 2006 were nowhere as was kov in 2008. All driver in 2007.
I was there damn it ! I live in Nice, it helps a lot but anyway. What a GP and what a season. Also I possess this 1/18 McLaren. My farorite car of all times.
@@ciaronsmith4995 dude stop being blinded by your biased and you highlight your own reply mxm. Please Schumacher was on bridgestones those tyres were no where most of the season and set the fastest lap your title is misleading the fact that others are pointing it out should tell you something.
If it was a cannon why was Montoya so slow? He nearly won the title in 2003 in a Williams. Kimi was the cannon imo. DeLaRosa, Wurz and JPM got absolutely smoked. Obliterated.
It's fuel and tyre strategy. The others were fueled to the end of the race whereas kimi wasnt so had to push to make up time for another pit. That is NOT 3 seconds on absolute pace alone, come on, ridiculous title. Faster than schumacher you say? 6:17 explain that then? lol
1:16
Also says the difference of being low on fuel and full of fuel.
Alonso at that time had full tank, were raikkonen was lower on fuel so as there is less fuel there is less weight so you can be faster.
@@yagermeister1303 ssshhh don't mention that, he doesn't like to think kimi isn't 3 secs faster.
Not in the title
@@sebastianvirga1015 Alonso was lapping quicker than MSC and JPM at that time. Only the Toyotas, BMWs were quicker than FA at that point.
@@ciaronsmith4995 I’m not arguing I’m just responding to the title it’s totally misleading
Such a shame that he didn't become a champion with Mclaren.
Mclaren's car was the fastest in that era, but unfortunately unreliable at the same time, which costed Kimi 2 wdc. 😢😢😢
@@yojimba06 not in 2003, but for sure in 2005
@@raketman101 2003 He lost championship by two point 🤨 In european gp he retired from the 1st place. He retired 3 times from the race when schumacher just once.
@@wroope1204 true but in 2003, there was also one guy, winning a lot of races
Mercedes unreliable engine cast Kimi race wins.
Kimi Raikkonen, a should be three time world champion, great thing about Kimi is that given him the fastest I. E the best car during a season could somehow not make him champion, but given him a second or third fastest car during a season makes him much much better driver... As in 2007 season showed
2 for me, in 2003, Montoya has very well, if he had not disaster penalty (for me) in GP USA (sorry for my english). But i understand, because Kimi had also a 2002 mclaren ^^'
Ahead of Fernando Alonso, a "should-be" 4 time champion.
@@Nikelaos_Khristianos Both Alonso and Raikkonen should have at least 2 more championships. Yes, Hamilton and Vettel are good but can't deny they were both carried by their cars.
He should never won a championship, he got lucky in 2007
@@maling9915 look man, if he loses out big time during a two race before Brazil that year, going there he might not have a chance to beat the McLarens, but all season he drove consistently so I think he deserved that year's title...
The engine sounds made those cars look much faster. Miss Formula 1 in the early to mid 2000s.
And they werent show. On par with 2021 cars, Faster than 2018. Without slicks and drs. They were lighter and Still very powerful wihout kers/hybrid engine
The cameras werent so zoomed in too. That helps
They actually were faster now cars have more downforce so then corner better and carry speed but nothing beats the 900hp all natural aspirated 3.0L V10’s 😏
@@matthewsanchez7396 1000hp hybrids do. The new cars are just heavy as hell so they look slower
Think of the grooved tires, just to eliminate grip by rule
Remember when he joined Sauber and ppl said he shouldn't be allowed to race in F1?
I think it was Marko, they claimed Bernoldi was the GOAT and they wanted him at Sauber, im guessing Petter wanted Kimi but yeah I mean he had only like 15 races in single seaters.
@@persezyra ofc marko the idiot talks
@@persezyra Official stories pegged Max Mosley as having the doubt on giving Raikkonen his super license. Unless there's other news about Marko being the manipulator being the scenes, I'm open to reading the sources you have. Especially since Peter Sauber was quoted as openly saying he wanted Kimi at Sauber
Marko is Red Bull's advisor for quite some time, he's still responsable for the RB Academy team I think. Back in 2000 due to poor results they wanted Heidfeld and upcoming Bernoldi who was personally sponsored by Red Bull Sauber's major sponsor then, Petter signed Kimi and as a protest Red Bull sold part of their shares to a Swiss bank (Credit Issue I think IT was called).
Marko representing Red Bull wanted Bernoldi, Petter wanted Kimi, Mosley said he was dangerous having an unexperienced driver in F1 but I dont think at any point he denied him a Superlicence. Sauber was tied to Red Bull since like 1995 they are Austrian like Marko and they sponsored Berger also Austrian before that, for a smaller team like Sauber losing them would have been a huge loss, it was more of a Red Bull (Marko) Veto on Kimi as i see IT. IIRC Kimi wasnt meant to debut in F1 until 2003.
@@persezyra explains enough.
Thanks!
Kimi was at his best at Mclaren. Too bad they never gave him a worthy car.
They did basically, it just that he fell against Schumi & Alonso, I know what you mean, real fans know
Ikr, the car just didnt want to finish a race distance
@@raketman101 Kimi did not fell against Schumi or Alonso, his car did
@@raketman101 they had a quick car for him but was unreliable as shit not cuz “he fell” against them lmao
@@rinconerotico4806 the car fell against the checkered flag *
For some of us Kimi was the race champion of that period. He was the quickest and the coolest of them all..
Most importantly, he wasn't Schumi. I'll be honest, my sympathy for Williams and McLaren stems from that period, and the fact that they didn't have Schumacher under contract.
@Traverse1010 possibly, yeah
@Traverse1010 Yes, other than 2004 because F2004 was just in another league. in 05 and 03, other than all the DNF, he was consistantly on the podium/ wins. The reliability of the McL really failed him
@@gnaagren ahh nahh. Ferrari clearly having the best car during that period apart from two year period of Renault. Schumi will never win WDC in mclaren or Williams during this era.
@@masrimus1607 what do you mean, "nahh?" Why do you feel the need to disagree with me, when I'm telling you why I like McLaren and Williams? I feel like I would be the authority on that.
I remember that 2005 Monaco GP like it was yesterday. Commentators were questioning the decision to keep Kimi out during the SC.
Then he pulled 35 seconds in about 20 laps...
And at that time i was still a few months old lel
I was 15 and I remember like it was yesterday
@@zenjch And now you are old enough using youtube. Time flies fast.
@@huppupappa1637 yup, hahahahaha
I was 20 years old and i also remember like it was yesterday.
This F1 cars were wonderful. The competiton was incredible. Michael Schumacher, Fernando Alonso, Kimi Raikkonen, Juan Pablo Montoya wow! Very underrated F1 period in my opinion.
It was basically Alonso and Kimi in 2005. It was just viewed as a passing of the throne. It was Kimi and Alonso going neck and neck
Underrated by who, precisely?
This period definitely isn’t underrated lmao (these cars were dope though)
Remember Kimi almost beat Schumi when Shumi still was in his absolut prime when Kimi only been in F1 couple of years, only 2 points or something like that behind Schumi in the championship...
Yeap. 2 points behind Schumi in 2003 with three retirements to Schumi's 1
But arguably McLaren had a better car. But still, takes nothing away from facing Michael at near his peak.
@@spicykking2854 you could give schumi a john deere riding mower and he'd still find a way to bring home a world championship
@@Nyctophiliac. that's just bullshit. In F1, 90% of performance comes from the car.
@@masrimus1607 maybe so, but more like 75%. If 90% of the performance came from the car, then how did Alonso drag his Ferrari to world championship contention, or how did Schumacher manage to come 3rd in the championship in 1996 with that shitbox that only deserved 6th in the title?
I remember being kinda jaded at first, I was a HUGE Haakinen fan, and it felt like McLaren just 'plugged in' another Finnish driver hoping nobody would notice. But then Kimi blew my socks off with his pure car control at speed. He clearly had the most talent, in a period when there was SO MUCH talent. Two of these drivers STILL race in F1, STILL have the measure of their young-gun team-mates. 2021, now. Honestly, I've watched F1 all my conscious life. '82 is the first championship I remember. But this was one of the peaks, if not THE peak. You never knew what brilliance would come next. They were creative drives, they HAD to be creative, to beat each other. Kimi, Alonso, Montoya and The Michael, could all stun you on a Sunday with sheer & utter brilliance of performance, on levels unseen in any other field of human endeavour.
Anyway, thanks for uploading.
Lol, any other endeavour...fuck off, they're not creative geniuses lmao.
No, Michael always had the most talent. Fucking Kimi couldn't outdrive Massa who michael not in his prime made look like a GP2 driver. Barrichello was so much better than Massa and yet Kimi was outdriven. Yet another in the list of Newey carried drivers, most notably Vettel couldn't handle business outside of kimi without newey's car
@@dxfifa I think you should read my comment again, just to study how to sound vaguely intelligent, rather than a yammering yob with - ooo watch out - AN OPINION!?
@@blacktoothfox677 It's obvious to anyone with a brain kimi didn't have the most talent
@@dxfifa No. But it IS obvious to anyone reading your nonsense that you have absolutely NONE. As is evidenced by your utterly bereft 'channel' and lack of perceiving The Iceman's obvious skill behind the wheel.
Kimi with the MP4/20 it's one of the best combination driver-car ever. Reliability of the Mercedes engine was a shame, not only on race, on FPs and everywhere. He should have been champion in 2005. Clearly the best driver of the season by far.
Its so sad that mclaren didnt manage to give him a reliable car, a fucking shame...
If Kimi had had the same reliability as those he fought for the title he'd be a three time world champion now. If some "team" actually bothered to designing and setting up the car after Kimi's input he'd be a four time champion now.
If Lotus wasn't broke and a shoe-string operation one can only speculate what would have happened in 2013...
Put Kimi in the 2021 Red Bull and he'd be right behind Verstappen in the point standings.
@Ponfi McLaren unreliability wasn't just the engine. It was the driveshaft, tyre valve, hydraulics, heat shield. Kimi was faster than anyone, he didn't need the fastest car to dominate in 2003 or 2005. McLaren let him down as every McLaren engineer admits today.
Great point you made there !!! The foolish Ferrari's guys. They just didn't bother to design a car in their best driver and raining champion terms. How foolish that can be. (foolish is the innocent way to describe the inner-ferrari controversies at that time. Kimi paid the price again...)
Especially 2008 was disgraceful in Ferrari. They had the fresh world champion, motivated and in shape, and what they do? They decide to put everything on Felipe Massa for political reasons.
The 2007 world champion was basically the 2nd driver in Ferrari for 2008. Absolute lunacy and insanity, but as we know very well Ferrari has a habit of screwing themselves with inside games and politics.
Hamilton wouldn't have sniffed his first title if Ferrari treated their champion as 1st driver, and setting up/developing the car accordingly.
@@fistoftulkas7335 That's what exactly i'm talking about!!
Na, kimi hasnt given a fuck about F1 for about..... 7-8 years
It's almost a crime that Kimi only has one WDC and people don't understand to rank him higher in the all time greats lists. He was so unbelievably fast in his McLaren days. Even Ron Dennis said he was the fastest driver he had ever seen. And this from a guy who had Senna, Prost, Hakkinen, Lauda in his team.
If Kimi stays in F1 for 2022, he will probably be the only driver to experience so many changes to the F1 car.
🥲🥲🥲🥲 finally.. I wanted him to try theses cars ..
@@Dohmk i just read the news that he is going to retire. End of an era in F1.
2022 it’s really going to be a new era.
@@DanielRodriguez-gm1ih i feel frustrated..
I know, it saddens me that the new cars weren't introduced in 2021 before Kimi retired.
@@DanielRodriguez-gm1ih maybe he will come and try out a couple cars in practice next year, since it is just a hobby for him anyway
I still like F1 mind you, but I wish the cars weren't so heavy and long.
They're quick as hell, but the camera work doesn't do them justice, and tracks like Monaco make overtaking only possible through the pitlane.
These day are the days i miss them all a lot, Kimi Räikkönen is a legend and his legacy will never end
To all the people saying Kimi should be multiple world champion. THANK YOU !!
Such a shame McLaren had those reliability issues. But peak Kimi when that car was working was untouchable
Is that you mr raikkonen?
The cars were so much more nimble and skittish alot more dynamic to watch I hope the 2022 cars are less video game like then the current cars
im afraid they wont be :(
The current cars are too planted. It seems like they just want the lap times to go down every year, but that's not what f1 should be about. Maybe they're afraid other series will catch up, but it's still the pinnacle of motorsport even if it's not the fastest.
We want exciting cars that cost more money than any other cars in the world. That's all.
Problem is the weight and size., which 2022 doesn't address. The 2022 cars are going to have less downforce, so they'll be harder to drive, and they'll get rid of the dirty air problem for the most part. But the lie for the last few years has been that dirty air is why nobody can overtake. That's not true. The reason no one can overtake is because the cars are so wide and heavy, they don't turn in anymore. These cars, you could push and push all race and somehow find a few tenths a lap, because the track was faster then the cars.. The only limitation was the driver, and how hard they were willing to push on the track, how hard they could push without finding a wall. Modern F1, the set up and car determine your pace more then driver skill and creativity. The car is faster then the track, you can't drive it harder and find speed. If you push harder you just end up finding the wall straight away.
My solution is driver controlled aero, like they control the diff and brake bias. Just give them more tools to work with. You can't make the cars go faster with 2 feet and a steering wheel anymore, so give them more tools to find that pace.
Glad I've found this video. I wasn't able to experience this era of F1 and that is more than enough
I don’t care if Hamilton had 7 tittles ...For me after Senna ,Kimi is the best ever.Without Mclaren problems,unlucky,team order last year’s in Ferrari ,he could win title at least another 5 times
@AGIX Sniper You'll be hated on because it's not the right place to say it, and Kimi in his prime was mind-numbingly fast, but...yeah. He was never even close to being as adaptable as Alonso, or as impressive in weaker cars, and his peak was much shorter to boot. He deserved the 2007 title, if only as compensation for his awful luck at McLaren, but he's not an Alonso, Schumacher, or Hamilton.
@@INFEDnoX I like how your standard is being adaptable and impressive in weak cars, and then you put Hamilton up there. Hamilton's never been adaptable, while he might not have had the most dominant car in 2008, it was definitely on even footing with the Ferrari, and certainly wasn't put in a position to struggle. And after that he only got back to impressive with the completely dominant Mercedes era. You put Kimi in that Mercedes he'd win championships too. If you're not gonna put Kimi up there for being in the sport for 20 years and being competitive for a good chunk of it, then don't put Hamilton in either. Championships aren't everything
@@CharlesFreck Hamilton was poor in 2011 when they switched to the degradable Pirellis because he couldn't use his raw pace anymore and he floundered. Then, one year later, he comprehensively outperformed his world champion teammate and was arguably as strong as Alonso were it not for a slew of awful reliability issues and terrible McLaren management. How is that not a shining example of adaptability, especially compared to someone like Kimi, who could never replicate his incredible pace at McLaren? 2009 is also a good example as well, albeit with a weaker teammate to compare against.
I have no idea how you could look at 2010 or 2012 and say they weren't impressive years from Hamilton, who was probably the second best driver behind Alonso, or even 2009, where he had one of the all-time qualifying performances at Abu Dhabi (nearly a second ahead of P2) and finished P4 in the car even before the upgrades during the summer break. Or hell, even in 2011 he had his incredible raw pace (look at Korea).
Kimi never really turned up at Ferrari (2014-18). Team orders were there because he never was a serious contender for the title, unlike Vettel who was the biggest threat to Mercedes dominance. In McLaren years he could have won a championship in two occasions. So maybe he could have 2 or 3 titles max, I don't see where 5 times more come from.
@@INFEDnoX Kimi wasn't impressive in weaker cars? So you just ignore his years at Sauber, Lotus, and the shittier Ferraris?
I don't think there was a bigger fan of Kimi on the grid than Jenson Button...he just loves his speed, his skill and his fairness.
I think Kimi's qualifying lap for this race is my all time favourite...it really is Raikkonen at his best.
I very very much enjoyed this video, Thank you for such throwback and shot of nostalgia 👌🏼💯...
Took a while before I realised this was footage from the race andn ot qualifying, looked like Kimi was all alone on track in the first few shots xD
Wow... That Mclaren was beautiful!
pitty it was shit and kept breaking down
@@Andrewza1 not a shit car can win 7 races...
@@oktayyilmaz5134 the car was fast and pretty. But it kept breaking down so in the hands of a top tier driver it can win races but that breaking down part means it cant win the the title. İf the car was second slower but never broke down kimi would of won the championship.
@@Andrewza1 first of all..2005 one tyre rule was so absurd..And like Ferrari, it ruined Mclarens season also..For example Kimis Europe last lap failure was not the car's fault..it would happen at least 1 race eventually anyway..2005 car was the best car Mclaren ever produced in 2000's years...So it was miles far being shit..that sentence is absurd...Even without serious regulations it might win in 2006..İt was beautiful and an aerodynamic gem for me..Bad lucks can happen 2 or 3 races in a 17 race season..Also Mclaren pit crew and team strategists had faults in this..
Love this video, this vibe is magical 🥰🥰🥰
Another driver I also really rate is JPM. He also came in to a team and car built around Kimi and didnt suit his driving style which was also very effective. He still outqualified Kimi at Spa that year. To me that also sets Montoya apart as one of the great drivers drivers
Montoya was incredibly fast, I wish he spent longer in F1
@@CharlieHolmesT JPM was a fantastically fast in his BMW days..it was a treat to watch him have a go at Micheal....
@GT012345tube Good opinion, but I think Montoya was better than that with BMW Williams. Old Kubica level.
I loved JPM growing up.
I still have a general dislikes for the name 'Verstappen' after the Brazil incident.
Never really felt he fit in with Ron Dennis' very rigid corporate attitude at mclaren. Think he would enjoy it much more there now.
@GT012345tube id disagree. JPM was world champ material. Raw talent like Kimi. The only reason he struggled at Mclaren was he didnt suit the car which was developed for Kimi. Even then he still beat Kimi at Spa in quali. If that isnt raw talent I dont know what is. Could take a can of whoop ass to MS and anyone on any day. Guy had talent way beyond a Ricciardo.
This 2005. McLaren car was a beast, best chassis, most powerful engine with poor reliability of the same...I remember when Alonso said one time, that McL have more fuel then they in q time and have same or batter time then renault...
Also Kimi have some bad races with strange problem, tire on Nirburgring....
He hit the kurb
One of the last great years of F1
Agreed. I was lucky enough to have tested the last of the dart like aero cars (2008). After that F1 lost the plot.
This season seems like it's going to be awesome
V10 engines sounded like noth8ng since
2007, 2010 and 2012 I imagine are also “the last great years”
@@motornaut have not missed watching,reading or being their since 1969, he is truly a 10+ above all of the F1 Drivers every year he has raced, Kimi is a modern day Tazio Nuvolari.
Thank you for sharing this. For some reason F1 official channel has not put this video.
To be fair, the Ferrari's that year weren't even in contention for anything.
With that said, Kimi should have won 2005. He had the right car performance-wise (outside of reliability) and was just blazingly fast when he needed to be.
Alonso should have won 2012 instead.
What a driver 1 championship should of been 4 he’s called the iceman I mean come on he’s one of the best
3 seconds faster at Monaco
Holy shit
That McLaren with Kimi in it was a rocket absolutely crushing rest of the grid
those McLaren's were fast as hell but they were literally made out of paper
Kids who became F1 fans after 2010 think Kimi is just a bad driver, they didn't see Kimi at their peak. Reminds me of Verstappen
Lmao, where have you heard someone saying that Kimi is a bad driver? Kimi is highly respected by both fans and drivers, stop making shit up!
Kimi only performed like this at one team. Massa was busy barely scraping by villeneuve then destroyed by Michael making Rubens look like a star. Then equal with Kimi.....
Its so crazy Jenson was even doing commentary as a driver
Him and this gourgeous Mclaren deserved the '05 world title
U mean 06’ world championship
Kimi Senna Häkkinen Schumacher 😍
My kind of drivers! Senna was a bit entitled though.
Amazing one still races...
@@ciaronsmith4995 Take Senna out and put Prost in, the french was the best of his era.
@GT012345tube My group is:
Kimi, Mika, Gilles, Prost. I like this group.
That was exactly what I was going to comment a few seconds ago 😜🔥🔥
3 seconds at Monaco in an F1 car could be measured with a calendar.
and here we have longest speech that any finn has ever given
Where
Found it
Mercedes owes kimi a few titles because of the trash engine they made
It’s not just the engine. How a car is made also determines how reliable an engine is
Renault was slower cause they purposely made the engine slower to be reliable
Michael Schumacher 1:15.995 what a legend.
Kimi was fast but then that McLaren was dominant in performance, it was just pluaged with reliability issues
And Schumacher took the fastest lap with a 1:15
Look where Montoya was - look at the gap he built in 15 laps. He backed off as soon as he had the margin he needed. Kimi was unbeatable. Michael was nowhere in this race.
That's because Alonso was struggling with the tyres for the whole race!
He gained a 35 second gap in 15 seconds pure and utter genius. He was lucky but he knew how to use that luck
A young JB in the commentary box due to BARs DSQ
Yeah! He was good though in the box!
I read in an interview somewhere jb was massively hungover for this
isn't it MS who eventually records fastest lap? i don't get the title...anyways always good memories to watch these beautiful cars, v10 rules.
back in the days, 41 laps without pitstop. And still in good condition.
Is this one of Jenson’s first times commentating? Love it
Arguably the best looking car ever made, the MP4-20
Kimi was in his way to become a legend in those years... He would become one of the greatest... Sadly he lost his peak in the middle of 2008... He recovered his touch during the Lotus years, but he lost it again...
I respect him, glad to see him become champion just when he deserved most.
He didn't lose it. He just didn't get cars that were well suited for him. Ferrari repeatedly gave him a car that behaved literally the opposite to what Kimi wanted.
I will contend that he would still be faster than half of the grid, including Bottas, Perez, and quite possibly Vettel, if given equal cars.
f1 regulations and cheese tyre took it away from him.....nowadays f1 regs doesnt allow soft touch driver to excel.... it's amazing how Kimi hold on being handicaped.
5:05 fast man on track Michael Schumacher
Kimi had the margin he needed and backed off....he finished way ahead of MSC in this race.....when he was pushing to build the gap he was miles quicker than anyone. At Monaco you only push when you NEED to.
@@ciaronsmith4995 yeah but Michael was already a lap down so would never get close and did set the fastest lap of the race. Kimi was the fastest guy in the fastest car but your title is wrong because only Alonso was that slow in this race because of the tyres.
@@gregoryshtevensh6868 The lap Kimi did when Button and co were talking at the beginning was 3 seconds quicker than anybody. Montoya was nowhere too.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Not taking anything away from Kimi. He could've won the 2005 championship if the McMerc was more reliable. But, the FIA introduced the '05 rules primarily to curb Ferrari's and Bridgestone's dominance. The F2005 would've been a monster if the curbs weren't in place. But, woulda, coulda, shoulda..
@@toothlessrage282 If the rules hadn't changed, instead of McLaren vs Renault, it could have been Ferrari vs McLaren vs Renault.
The rule change was stupid.
Kimi at his best... he drove that McLaren like hell aren't he?
Kimi and Michael were absolutely flying in that race
Michael was nowhere compared to Kimi at the finish line.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Yeah because of the incident with Coulthard but he could've been on the podium easy
Worth to mention Alonso had killed his tyres absolutely dead.. they weren't allowed to change
Michael was pretty much matching his pace though. It was Alonso that was 3 sec off the pace.
No he wasn't. Kimi backed off when he had the gap if you listen. In the early stages of this race it was even crazier. Kimi was crazy in this race.
What do you mean? In the video you can see Schumacher posted the fastest lap of the race up to that point, so that means it wasnt that Michael was going fast only because Kimi had slowed down
Love the distinct sound of the Renault engine!
Alonso - opted for soft tyres. He had to slow his pace.
Montoya and Schumi- 5 car train. Could not run there own pace since they were in the group.
This is, why they dont give him the drink anymore
Love that word if....so many unreal possibilities.
McLaren gave Kimi the fastest and most unreliable car.
I think that Alonso tried to do a one stop strategy putting a lot of fuel into the car, making it very heavy and finally destroying his race, because he was overtaken by both BMW Williams by the final part of the race, and crossing the line in 4th position. Anyway, the 2005 Kim-McLaren combo was scary, the fastest of the field. Reliability did not help against a very consistent Alonso and a more reliable Renault.
Title: Kimi Raikkonen - 3 seconds a lap faster than Alonso, Michael Schumacher or Montoya
Reality: Kimi Raikkonen is slower than Michael Schumacher in a red tractor 6:07
No he was lapping way faster until he had the gap, and then he backed off. Kimi obliterated the field in this race. MSC finished way down the order.
@@ciaronsmith4995 As the commentators have pointed out, he was trying to pull a gap for his pitstop so no, he didn't back off. He was pushing on an empty tank.
The peak was McLaren, not him. He was destroyed year after year by Alonso and Vettel when sharing same car.
Nah. It was him. You're comparing different eras that have nothing to do with each other. On the Michelin tyre he was the best driver by far. Vettel is nothing compared to Kimi especially. He faced Kimi at 39 years old. Enough.
@@ciaronsmith4995 really age matters? Look at Alonso 43yo.
Remember F14T, 2014. Kimi is a one shot car, if car fits him, he is fast, else...
@@pmatias Yeah look at Alonso, his teammate is Stroll. Enough ok? It's enough now. Kimi beat Giovinazzi 3 years in a row from 40-42 years old. Kimi is older than Alonso.
@@ciaronsmith4995 remember Stroll was close to Vettel.
Kimi is overrated as long as Vettel.
Vettel was destroyed by Riccardo, Leclerc...
Kimi by many in his career.
I say destroyed when there is a huge difference.
Verstappen destroys everybody, Alonso sometimes destroys, sometime no, but never has been destroyed. That puts Verstappen and Alonso top notch of last years. Hamilton also but its irregular sometimes last years and 2009-2013.
@@pmatias Kimi was way older and Vettel was past it by then in Aston. Stop clutching at straws. Either you are new or not knowledgeable. Kimi during the tyre war was a totally different driver with the most extreme driving style I've ever seen. Do you even understand basic F1? Shocking. Nobody is quicker than 2003-2006 Kimi this century. Kimi was never destroyed on pure performance. He had only 4 bad seasons, all down to car setup issues / politics. Never his own inherent speed.
in refueling era, lap times were significantly affected by how much fuel there was in a car, so "3 seconds faster" doesn't tell the whole story
Kimi pitted on LAP 42!!! Alonso pitted on Lap 25!! You will never be 3 seconds slower in that scenario unless one driver is driving beyond the limits. On top of that Montoya was nowhere in the same car and pitted similar time to Kimi.
@@ciaronsmith4995 Kimi was in a league of his own...he truly is the fans' favourite champion
@@ciaronsmith4995 only thing beyond the limit is the wall.
Just think he still got it just this new generation of car
raikkonen at his peek !
schumacher: hold my fastest lap 6:17
You see, when you have as much lead Kimi had there, you don't push the car anymore, you save the tires
imagine being 3s a lap faster now a days, yeah that mclaren was op.
Now you have the same amount of fuel as everyone else and you're probably in the same tire strategy too. What I miss from this era is that every driver was in his own race with different strategy. We didn't have much overtaking but the race was always interesting in terms of how the race will end up.
that kimi dude made it happens, no 1 else could
For me kimi is the cleanest driver... always on fair side... with minimum incidents... giving consistant performances even in inferior cars... its really sad that kimi didnt win few more titles.... one of the most unlucky drivers of f1... when he was at peak...reliability of the car was poor really it was a treat to watch kimi stroming thru the circuit in that mclaren..... a reliable car should have made him unstoppable 😍😍
This season is an excellent example of how the fastest car on the grid doesn’t always win the championship. That ‘05 McLaren was a rocket ship
I guess🏎️ kimi and Michelin🏁were just made for eachother. ❤️😎❤️
Wow, thats approaching qualifying pace
I wish Kimi would have stayed one more year just to see ow he handles these new cars.
THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT. THE GOAT!!!!🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐
That fps showcased a real speed of that car flying
hes doing this while managing tyres as well
ahh yeah,the no tire change era.... at least we had godly engine sounds.
i sometimes still watch some f1 just to see kimi
sport is pretty much done at this point, only money left there
For me they were more nimble from a visual point of view. The new era cars don't have that piont to piont darty ability. Especially high speed chicanes and low speed chicanes and high speed left and right turns. Just watch how quickly they could flick a car into a corner. The new cars with those heavy batteries can't perform at the same level in agility.
4:16 Man this angle 👌
The car looked so hood
McLaren fan supported mika hakkinen.
And then kimi ❤️ all the way till 2009.
And followed him with lotus and ferrari.
Now finally saying good bye this year.
We always choose one winning horse in f1 to continue to entertain us.
I have Signed CL16 for the next 10 yrs atleast. 😉
Ice always has its peak, it doesnt go away.
There are two things I remember from when I first watched formula one at my grandparents house.
1. Screaming engines
2. crappy onboard cameras that did this all the time 2:17 :D
MP4/20 ❤️❤️
Could the MP4/20 be the best not champion car ever?
2007 McLaren was better for starters. 2005 was not even close to being the best non-champion car. Montoya finished behind a Ferrari in it, it was super unreliable. Reliability is part of being a good car, Kimi had 4-10 place grid penalties + 3 retirements from the lead. The 2007 McLaren, 2009 Red Bull, 1994/1995 Williams and 2006 Ferrari were all better cars that didn't win.
@@ciaronsmith4995 2006 ferrari was not as good as either 3 you listed with it
@@dxfifa 2006 Ferrari was a rocketship. Kimi said it was the best Ferrari he ever drove in Finnish media recently (he tested it at Vallelunga in 2006/2007). As Chris Dyer said, that should have been an easy title win, but MSC dropped the ball in Australia, Monaco and Hungary. Thank goodness for Kimi in 2007, despite the fact Kimi HATED the Bridgestone tyres and handling in his first years at a new team. His consistency from France 2007 onwards was insane and more impressive than anything MSC did in 2003 or from 2005-2006. Kimi at McLaren/Michelins was also a different beast, as we all know, Kimi was the best driver according to Michelin engineers who could not believe how good his feedback was.
It was definitely one of the fastest non-championship winning cars, but nowhere near best, because of the horrible reliability.
@@ciaronsmith4995 no it fucking wasn't lmao the 2007 Mclaren was garbage and carried by the drivers. You are literally rating them on results based analysis and ignoring the obviously superior drivers of alonso and Hamilton making up the difference in 2007. Raikkonen and montoya and De la Rosa in 2006 were nowhere as was kov in 2008. All driver in 2007.
kimi is a beast
I was there damn it !
I live in Nice, it helps a lot but anyway.
What a GP and what a season.
Also I possess this 1/18 McLaren. My farorite car of all times.
4:32 Tie Fighter
Cuando KIMI era un bólido imparable
That McLaren was a beast, just unreliable and broke down too often.
Why was 2003 Monaco winner Montoya nowhere? All season frankly.
I miss this era of F1
racing definitely was better back then
Misleading title Schumacher pumped in some faster laps than him in this race.
No he did not, Kimi backed off once he made 35 seconds in 15 laps. Kimi obliterated the field when he was pushing. MSC finished nowhere in this race.
@@ciaronsmith4995 dude stop being blinded by your biased and you highlight your own reply mxm. Please Schumacher was on bridgestones those tyres were no where most of the season and set the fastest lap your title is misleading the fact that others are pointing it out should tell you something.
@@thirushangovender5423 Dude he was barely in front of Rubens in this race. He was not that great in the race.
That car was literally the fastest that year, but with big reliability problems.
This is what you get when you give a boy would die for his hobby
That car was a glass cannon
If it was a cannon why was Montoya so slow? He nearly won the title in 2003 in a Williams.
Kimi was the cannon imo. DeLaRosa, Wurz and JPM got absolutely smoked. Obliterated.
It's fuel and tyre strategy. The others were fueled to the end of the race whereas kimi wasnt so had to push to make up time for another pit. That is NOT 3 seconds on absolute pace alone, come on, ridiculous title. Faster than schumacher you say? 6:17 explain that then? lol
I want Kmi in a fast car again