+999MonsterJam not to mention Tiron, that one Combs alien who lusts after Kira enough to order a sex hologram of her. Tiron: I'll pay anything for one night with her! Brunt: Make me Nagus and it will be done. *later* Tiron: Well, you're Nagus now! What about Kira? Brunt: All taken care of... Weyoun: I'd like to announce that the Ferengi have just joined the Dominion in mutual financial and territorial gains. We demand a Major Kira to the be handed over immediately, complete with miniskirt to our forces. Or else the Alpha Quadrant will suffer unnecessary bloodshed. Brunt: He really has a way with words!
Extremely underrated aspect of this scene: Weyoun isn’t just doing this to relieve the tension and show how much of a farce it all is to him. He’s also giving Dukat a warning; he can’t try those tricks on him, either, down the road.
The literal reason for his existence is to turn the caprice of the Founders into something that can run an interstellar government. He's very _very_ good at his job.
@@Rodshark75 the stakes are high enough, if he doesnt intercede the war starts before they're ready. Besides weyoun considers himself expandable and the federation probably knows even if sisko doesnt.
The way that Weyoun chugs that drink down is one of the most underrated moments in this show. Dukat and Sisko are well aware of what the other is capable of, and how to spar and parry with each other. Then Weyoun just swoops in and playfully reminds them both that he, and by extension the Dominion, are not bound by the same rules and limitations at all. What the Cardassians and Federation consider life and death epic struggles amount to little more than a game in the eyes of the Dominion. Even more telling is that when Sisko walks away from the table, it's not Dukat he's watching, it's Weyoun.
Weyoun's lines work even better in context, in that this episode's the first to explain that he's cloned when he dies-but _doesn't_ show his (later) fear of death. It seems like he _might_ actually kill himself for fun.
What I love about the scene is basically weyoun is having the time of his life: he believes himself above the federation and cardassians and is basically watching the animals at the zoo, is playing games and winning money at the same time, and if you take into account that most alcohol is essentially poison then he just had a really strong drink ergo he's having a really good time.
Gul Dukat's little "wha..?" and the fact that Sisko is genuinely taken aback gets me every time - rounded off with the perfectly-delivered "Are you insane?"
@@JnEricsonx Dukat probably told Damar about Vorta being immune to most poisons which is probably why Weyoun 5 later had an unfortunate transporter accident! Weyoun 6 & 7 seemed to think so although there is apparently no proof of it!
When the Dominion showed up the Vorta were the least interesting of their races right up until Weyoun showed up. No one cared about the Andorians until Shran showed up. They really missed an oppurtunity never taking up Jeffrey Combs on his desire to be a main cast member. I'll bet he could make the Pakleds interesting if he wanted.
I believe Shran was meant to be a regular character in the Enterprise season 5 that never eventuated... shame... hope they give him a role in one of the ST series soon
Ever thought about how clever a move by Weyoun this was? Rather than having Dukat and Sisko stare daggers at each other in silence until one of them potentially did something stupid, he did one off-putting parlor trick and forced them to move on.
I love how when Sisko shows up, Weyoun holds up his winnings as if to say "Hey! Look what I won! Isn't this great?" and momentarily forgetting about the cold war. I think the reason he likes games is because he doesn't get to play them in the dominion.
I think the reverse. He *likes* games, meaning he plays them a bunch. I think it's just part of the Vorta nature, maybe before they were turned into what they are. Good thing to leave in a diplomat, too. If your planet has some weird variation of golf all the powerful people play, the diplomat being all in on it would only help relations. Remember as long as you cooperate with the Dominion and follow their rules, life isn't honestly all that bad under them. They rule in a very different way than the Cardassians.
Dukat watching his extremely important Dominion associate seemingly reveal himself to be an idiot who casually drinks poison is one of the highlights of the series for me
I mean, he did at least knew they were clones? Hopefully? XD it was between 'oh I'll just get another one' or 'annnd he's an idiot doing us all a favor' if he didn't know that fact.
Weyoun meant what he said at the start, "I like games." He was playing dumb in order to get both of them to lower their guard. I really believe Weyoun sent the poisoned kanar, in order to set up a confrontational scenario between Dukat and Sisko/Kira.
"Thirsty" can also be used as a euphemism for specifically wanting alcohol. He was probably using it in that manner, and also the literal manner as a jab at Sisko.
I always liked the concept of the Dominion as an "anti-Federation" with several different species, instead of another "planet of hats" where everyone's exactly the same (I also liked that the Xindi were like this in Enterprise). And I like how it's established the Dominion doesn't just conquer everyone in the Gamma Quadrant, they sometimes use diplomacy and trade instead. I imagine Weyoun kept pretty busy negotiating for tulaberry wine and such.
A bit late here lol but that's because Jeffrey Combs wasn't supposed to drink it. He did it on a whim precisely to shock them and then improvised the line about vorta being immune to most poisons.
@John Frylock Think I remember hearing that they normally used syrup and food coloring. It was different things a couple times but in the end they decided to stick with that. It was never anything that you couldn't consume though.
He got so mistreated by both the Founders and the Jem'Hadar. I think he is the universe's most hated man. He enjoyed contempt from his enemies, subordinates and leaders.
I recall reading that Jeffrey Combs ad libbed drinking the poison or at least the other actors weren’t told he was going to do it, so if true then their reactions were genuine, and they were good enough to stay in character.
I just imagine Weyoun and Vizzini from "The Princess Bride" as one character in this scene. "Vorta are immune to most forms of poison! Ahahaha! Ahahahaha! Ahahaha!" ***THUD.***
@@detectivesnickers6176 they used straight up corn syrup for Kanar...the actor who played Damar in the later seasons had to drink tons of it and the green stuff they always had in those square glasses.
I asked Rene Auberjonois (Odo) on Twitter if a particular scene had been partly ad-libbed and he was clear that they always stuck to word for word accuracy. I wondered the same about this scene but the camera had to cut to Sisko's reaction so it was planned. As good as both Brooks and Alaimo are a showing surprise, I think their reactions would have been different if Combs had done that unscripted based on all the blooper reels I've seen.
Fun fact about Vorta. While they are immune to most poisons and toxins, some toxins can essentially get them high for a couple of moments. 2:14 Weyoun was tripping balls.
Apparently this thing about drinking it and Vorta being immune to poison was completely improvised by Combs in this scene. Makes the reactions från the other two actors quite fantastic!
@@IronThreads8-h9p He's like that one of those kids in Highschool who learned about toxic frogs causing hallucinations and immediately spending days licking various ones in the local waterways trying to test them out.
Amber Lynn There’s also the fact that if it did kill him his clone would be activated to replace him and it would deliver to the founders the information of a new poison they would need to build an immunity for in their Vorta genetic model.
well caffeine is a powerful insecticide, so should be a poison to cardasians. If somebody said that a bottle had enough caffeine to kill 12 cardasians I might be tempted to try it too. :D The line between poison and narcotic can sometimes be fuzzy.
2:16 Weyoun's face 😂😂😂 totally entertained by Sisko's anger. Looks like he's thinking "oooooh Dukat you're in trooouble you made him mad" 😂 like kids do when one gets in trouble with the teacher Weyoun was so funny!!!!!!
Dukat vs Garak S2 Cardassians S3 Civil Defense S4 The Way of the Warrior S5 In Purgatory's Shadow Having them not square off on so much as a long-distance communication for 2 & 1/2 seasons... About as dumb as Garak, Dukat, Weyoun or Q never appearing in a Star Trek movie.
This entire scene is just such a testament to the writing team from DS9. Every single word said has a purpose and direction. Subtext just drips from every single thing that comes out of the mouths of all three of them, and it really helps to put the burgeoning conflict into perspective. It is frankly sublime. Bravo.
Weyoun: Hohoho, who delightful! Oh the mysterious plots, the subtle innuendos the veiled threats its all so entertaining. But hey, watch this! *drinks poison* Sisko and Dukat: O_O!
I like how when Sisko snarled "Is that what I'm doing," Dukat had the look of "Why didn't I expect that response from Sisko. I know full well he doesn't scare easily." They all played such wonderful dialogue just with their facial expressions.
Taking nothing away from Sir Patrick or Nimoy or other Star Trek greats, this was by far the best acted of all the Star Treks. Not just these three but Shimerman, Hertzler, Auberjonois, the list goes on. Fantastic writing as well.
James Martin Stewart was the only one who consistantly put in great performances in TNG. Dorn and Meaney put in their best performances on DS9. TNG was very lucky with Stewart.
After personally seeing how happy Weyoun was at winning dabo, it’s so strange that Dukat had the gall to ask Weyoun if he was “anhedonic” (incapable of experiencing joy) later on in the series lol.
It makes perfect sense actually, the impression we get is that Vorta are essentially capable of acting however they want to best manipulate the people they're dealing with into giving them what they want. Just because he *looks* like he's enjoying it doesn't mean he's actually feeling anything.
TheTickRules, perhaps it's a bit like whiskey. Whiskey is a catch-all for many forms of alcohol. It can be made with corn, barley, rye, etc. It can be clear, yellowish, brown.
Jeffrey Comb's body language is fantastic here. He gently sits down, crosses his legs the second he senses things are about to get tense, and just sits there wide-eyed as two of two most important Alpha Quadrant leaders bicker about petty political drama.
Weyoun downing that drink was a Coombs improv. It had to be. Marc Alaimo was shocked enough that someone would drink the prop Kanar... his line "are you insane"... it's about half an octave up from the deep base voice "Dukat" usually uses. Avery Brooks (Sisko) seven years... that has to be one of the rare occasions he was not ready for what he just saw. Pity he didn't interact with Weyoun after the season 5 finale.
Later on, Gul Dukat is getting salty because he's struggling not to feed, while Weyoun is crushing it as MVP. *Gul Dukat:* "I don't know WHY you insist on playing this ridiculous game..." *Weyoun: "I LIKE GAMES."*
That look on Weyoun's face as Sisko leaves is just priceless. Like a school kid watching one of his classmates takes the walk of shame to the principles office knowing exactly what he did.
This is one of Avery Brooks's top 10 scenes as Benjamin Sisko. I always loved when he pulled power moves, but one of my favorite shots in the entire series is his reaction to Weyoun drinking the poison, mainly because it's so weird to see him so shocked at anything so unexpected.
Weyoun is by far my most favourite villain in DS9...!!! He is ruthless and completely evil and gives horrible orders to his troops! But he is also a great diplomatic genius and can be very polite and even sympathic...! And he does all of that with a smile on his face...!!! In my opinion Jeffrey Combs did a unique job to play the character of Weyoun...!!! Much much applause from my side for this underrated actor (who also played Brunt (FCA), Shran (Andorian) and of course Dr. Herbert West (Re-Animator)...!!!
For a diplomat turn general of an totalitarian regime, he can still crack a good joke and enjoy life. Kinda makes you wonder what Kim Ill does for fun to make him smile.
@@Escap1st7 He sort of is, thanks to "Treachery, Faith and the Great River." It's pretty obvious if not for his genetic disposition to blind Founder obedience, he'd actually be a really cool guy. But with it, he will be a monster if that'll further Dominion goals.
my dad used to buy this super-concentrated apple juice, very dark brown color, just thicker than plain water, and sweet like it's gonna give you diabetes just by looking at it.... you were supposed to dilute it with water, at 3 to 1, or 4 to 1 ratio, but most of the times I drank it right from the bottle. it started almost burning my throat of how sweet and thick it was, but over time, I developed a resistance to it, and I could drink it pure..... I'd still drink the equivalent of a diluted serving of it, but all at once, it would have made anyone else throw up. if it had had alcohol in it, and a little more kick, it would have been the closest thing to kanar.
It's sad that the Weyoun who ended up defecting, basically, was killed. He could have become a very very very cool permanent character aboard the station.
"... in that bottle is enough voraxna poison to kill at least a dozen Cardassians ..." (at end of scene Sisko says "you can keep it" and walks away, just leaving the opened bottle of poisoned booze on the table in a crowded bar)
Just rewatched this episode the other day and this one scene made me glad I did. Jeffrey Combs is excellent here. I love the little sideways look at the end as if he's hoping Dukat will provide him with some more entertainment.
I'd say drinking a cup full of poison because your natural immune response is overpowered is a "weird flex, but okay" moment, but it was done by a Jeffrey Combs character, so it gets a pass.
Slithery as the Weyouns were, they were quite entertaining. Coombs is awesome. I've said on other posts, Shran the Andorian was a boss on ST:ENT. Also: Don't Eff with the Sisko.
Snodge Kat Underrated, yes. Undercast, HAH! To count, Coombs has been Brunt (FCA), A Ferengi on Enterprise, an alien that wanted holo-porn of Kira, Weyoun of course, and an alien in Voyager that forced Seven of Nine to fight in a holographic cage match. He probably has the most roles out of any actor that was in Star Trek.
Shran was just an Angry Weyoun, not much effort was put in by Combs to make the character sound any differen't to Weyoun. Atleast he put more effort into making Brunt sound differen't, even after Weyoun was introduyced the season after Brunt was.
I find the idea of Weyoun drinking it, doing that diplomat joke and dying funny... even more so just the idea of the aftermath. "Does this count as assassination or suicide or... what?"
I like to imagine if Garak was here, he would have had even more fun than Weyoun at Dukat's expense! "You used enough poison to kill 12, for 1 sickly man? If you'd used a much smaller dose, it might have actually gone undetected! What's the matter Dukat, are your intelligence operations bit lacking without the Obsidian Order? Perhaps they could use a good tailor!"
I need to make a Buzzfeed list of "X number of times Weyoun was my spirit animal." 12. "When your friends get in a public argument." *GIF of Weyoun's face at the end of the video*
Weyoun is one of the best villains in Star Trek. In fact, he's one of the best villains in science fiction in general. A fantastically written, fantastically acted character.
Note Combs' eyes at the end of the scene contemplatively returning to the kanaar. You can just see Weyoun thinking, "I wonder if another glass would make me look like a lush?"
@@Narrenspiel6 He views his past clones as his ancestors it seems like. He's very offended when people joke about the death of a past clone, despite having all his memories saved apparently.
@@BlazingOwnager Each Weyoun clone is a different person they just look and act very similar to each other. There was a 'defective clone' who was against the Dominion at one point so they can vary quite a lot.
@@Enzo012 Yep, that was a great episode. For the most part having a memory upload of all past clones seems to make them in general the same except for.. flukes.
Star Trek needs a ship which is run entirely by characters played by Jeffrey Combs
What a funny thought, I'm certain he could pull it off!
Like The Nutty Professor.
No they need an actual warship. Not retrofitted science vessels.
Brunt and Weyoun on the same ship. Dear God.
+999MonsterJam not to mention Tiron, that one Combs alien who lusts after Kira enough to order a sex hologram of her.
Tiron: I'll pay anything for one night with her!
Brunt: Make me Nagus and it will be done.
*later*
Tiron: Well, you're Nagus now! What about Kira?
Brunt: All taken care of...
Weyoun: I'd like to announce that the Ferengi have just joined the Dominion in mutual financial and territorial gains. We demand a Major Kira to the be handed over immediately, complete with miniskirt to our forces. Or else the Alpha Quadrant will suffer unnecessary bloodshed.
Brunt: He really has a way with words!
Weyoun: "Oh my...... that is quite toxic, isn't it."
Dukat: "Are you insane?"
Weyoun: :D
"YOLO!!!!!" -Weyoun
Actually, Weyoun is insane... he just gave potential enemies intel about his species capabilities that they didn't have before, just to show off.
Their reactions were real. Jeffery Combs improved the whole thing!
"Kanar" was pure Karo syrup, so yeah, that wouldn't be fun to drink at all.
@@pbdye1607 I mean look at Jeffrey's expression.. he really didn't like it. Almost looks like he tried real hard not to vomit around 1:50
Extremely underrated aspect of this scene: Weyoun isn’t just doing this to relieve the tension and show how much of a farce it all is to him. He’s also giving Dukat a warning; he can’t try those tricks on him, either, down the road.
I think yours is a funny and legit take, but I actually think Weyoun was just in a perfect diplomatic "can't we all be friends" mode.
He played his hand. He should have kept the poison immunity a secret.
For real lol all he did is make dukat either use poison hes not immune of or just get stabbed or shot in the back
Very clever
@@olorin3815 Or talk to Worf. XD
Disarming a international situation with a bit of light hearted banter and a party trick, very smooth weyoun.
The literal reason for his existence is to turn the caprice of the Founders into something that can run an interstellar government. He's very _very_ good at his job.
He learns from his mistakes by dying, quite, so yes.. quite good. xD
Very stupid as well, now the Federation and Cardassians know that his species is immune to most poison.
@@Rodshark75 the stakes are high enough, if he doesnt intercede the war starts before they're ready. Besides weyoun considers himself expandable and the federation probably knows even if sisko doesnt.
Intergalactic, not international.
The way that Weyoun chugs that drink down is one of the most underrated moments in this show. Dukat and Sisko are well aware of what the other is capable of, and how to spar and parry with each other. Then Weyoun just swoops in and playfully reminds them both that he, and by extension the Dominion, are not bound by the same rules and limitations at all. What the Cardassians and Federation consider life and death epic struggles amount to little more than a game in the eyes of the Dominion.
Even more telling is that when Sisko walks away from the table, it's not Dukat he's watching, it's Weyoun.
Weyoun's lines work even better in context, in that this episode's the first to explain that he's cloned when he dies-but _doesn't_ show his (later) fear of death. It seems like he _might_ actually kill himself for fun.
That face on weyoun when sisko walks away. He looks like a mime.
Think that pushed Dukat further into villainy? Basically Sisko sees Weyoun as a greater threat than him.
That's a great way of putting it. Not only the symbolism, but he also managed to demonstrate how adept Dominion is in genetic engineering
@@howardlanus8467he is a greater threat than him.
"Vorta are immune to most forms of poison..." *blinks* "Though apparantly not this one" *face plants*
That was exactly what I thought was going to happen, though I suppose it might've ruined the power move.
That would've been hilarious.
Then the new Weyoun walks into the room in comedic fashion.
What I love about the scene is basically weyoun is having the time of his life: he believes himself above the federation and cardassians and is basically watching the animals at the zoo, is playing games and winning money at the same time, and if you take into account that most alcohol is essentially poison then he just had a really strong drink ergo he's having a really good time.
This is probably the best comment about Weyoon I've ever seen.
At the end of the day weyoun has no real gripe with the federation. The founders said to fight a war with the federation so that's what he did.
@@MrGunlover12 Yeah that's what made their demise, all the vorta and jem'hadar who died , sad as well
Gul Dukat's little "wha..?" and the fact that Sisko is genuinely taken aback gets me every time - rounded off with the perfectly-delivered "Are you insane?"
Supposedly in one of the takes Combs decided to take a drink, and what you see IS the actors responses, albeit staying in character.
@@JnEricsonx Dukat probably told Damar about Vorta being immune to most poisons which is probably why Weyoun 5 later had an unfortunate transporter accident! Weyoun 6 & 7 seemed to think so although there is apparently no proof of it!
Vorta are immune from most poisons. Not so immune from a swift Worf neck snap.
+Doubting Thomas Or a transporter accident.
Maybe you should talk to Worf again!
hahaha i laughed pretty hard when i saw that scene, with Damar laughing over it.. and the scene when he says "Well hello!"
Rofl indeed. It was one of my favorite Scenes, as Worf broke his Neck ;D
Or Garak's phaser blast
When the Dominion showed up the Vorta were the least interesting of their races right up until Weyoun showed up. No one cared about the Andorians until Shran showed up. They really missed an oppurtunity never taking up Jeffrey Combs on his desire to be a main cast member. I'll bet he could make the Pakleds interesting if he wanted.
They should work him into Discovery, maybe that'll help save the series :D
Raise your hand if you think Combs would make a terrific sleazy Orion
I believe Shran was meant to be a regular character in the Enterprise season 5 that never eventuated... shame... hope they give him a role in one of the ST series soon
@@stingray-j2597 IIRC he was supposed to become part of the post-Federation Enterprise's crew.
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‘Brunt, F “thee” A.’
Ever thought about how clever a move by Weyoun this was? Rather than having Dukat and Sisko stare daggers at each other in silence until one of them potentially did something stupid, he did one off-putting parlor trick and forced them to move on.
He's a diplomat. He's actually reasonably good at his job too. It's just that the people he works with tend to be far too on their guard with him
Yes, I expect with the Jem'Hadar at his side, there can be a lot of tense moments Weyoun has had to defuse just like this one.
@@TheKyrix82 & with good reason😱.
I love how when Sisko shows up, Weyoun holds up his winnings as if to say "Hey! Look what I won! Isn't this great?" and momentarily forgetting about the cold war. I think the reason he likes games is because he doesn't get to play them in the dominion.
i actually didnt notice that before! the gleeful smile on his face just shows he was genuinely happy to of won and it makes the scene all the better
Makes sense. The Founders are about Self Preservation via conquest above all else so for Weyoun, Dabo is the shit😏.
@@noahpartic7586 They literally don't have taste buds because "They're administrators, why would they need to taste things?"
I think the reverse. He *likes* games, meaning he plays them a bunch. I think it's just part of the Vorta nature, maybe before they were turned into what they are. Good thing to leave in a diplomat, too. If your planet has some weird variation of golf all the powerful people play, the diplomat being all in on it would only help relations. Remember as long as you cooperate with the Dominion and follow their rules, life isn't honestly all that bad under them. They rule in a very different way than the Cardassians.
I think Weyoun is being a perfect diplomat. Show some appreciations for the opponent's culture. Show himself to be a "Regular guy".
Dukat watching his extremely important Dominion associate seemingly reveal himself to be an idiot who casually drinks poison is one of the highlights of the series for me
Or a skilled diplomat not afraid to take personal risks.
I love Sisko's look. "He did hear the part about 'enough to kill 12 Cardassiean, right?"
I mean, he did at least knew they were clones? Hopefully? XD it was between 'oh I'll just get another one' or 'annnd he's an idiot doing us all a favor' if he didn't know that fact.
Weyoun meant what he said at the start, "I like games." He was playing dumb in order to get both of them to lower their guard. I really believe Weyoun sent the poisoned kanar, in order to set up a confrontational scenario between Dukat and Sisko/Kira.
@@sephservant dukat clearly knew what was in it from his reactions, I'm sure he'd usually jump at the chance to share a drink with captain sisko
Dukat: "I'm not particularly thirsty right now" (Holding a drink in his hand)
"Thirsty" can also be used as a euphemism for specifically wanting alcohol. He was probably using it in that manner, and also the literal manner as a jab at Sisko.
I think he was saying "I'm not particularly thirsty right now because I'm already drinking something else."
@@Quailiogorath I just figured Dukat was being a sarcastic dick
@@SonofSethoitae He certainly was with that 'bad for the digestion' line.
He's merely informing sisko that he's not sexually desperate enough to be picked up in such an obvious manner.
Sisko: "This gun was used to shoot at so-and-so!"
*Wayoun takes gun and shoots himself in the head*
Wayoun: "Oh yes that's quite deadly!" *collapses*
Next scene: Weyoun and Dukat enter Sisko's office. Brief chat about clones etc... From there it's back to the normal script.
xD
@@renerpho Damar: "maybe you should talk to sisko's gun again"
@@wesjanson6979 “WELLL HELLLLLLLO
Hohoho”
-damar
"Hello. I am Weyoun, the clone sent by the dominion"
Death aside, this was probably the most exciting position Weyoun ever had in his life. I imagine the Gamma Quadrant was rather dull in comparison.
All that puddy handed enforced peace and control... yeah, no boring as hell
Exciting enough that he kept getting killed. :D
I always liked the concept of the Dominion as an "anti-Federation" with several different species, instead of another "planet of hats" where everyone's exactly the same (I also liked that the Xindi were like this in Enterprise). And I like how it's established the Dominion doesn't just conquer everyone in the Gamma Quadrant, they sometimes use diplomacy and trade instead. I imagine Weyoun kept pretty busy negotiating for tulaberry wine and such.
@@gregbauer4433 Well, if you count making a nation a client state by setting up a puppet government as diplomacy, yes.
@@ariochiv Certainly! It's much more diplomatic than having the Jem'Hadar rampaging through city streets. Which is the alternative.
I like Weyoun's expression at the end. Jeffrey Combs is a great actor.
I didn't like him as Brunt but I loved his Weyoun Character.
"Awk-weeeeeeeerd!"
@@JsRetroVideoGames How could you not like Brunt?? He was FANTASTIC.
I don't know. For some reason, I just didn't care much for the Brunt character.
@@JsRetroVideoGames You make me sad. He was so fun to hate.
I think this was the first and perhaps only time we saw Sisko in a moment of genuine shock.
Both Dukat and Sisko look like they'd tried to stop him from doing it but were just too frozen in WTF to act.
A bit late here lol but that's because Jeffrey Combs wasn't supposed to drink it. He did it on a whim precisely to shock them and then improvised the line about vorta being immune to most poisons.
@@jones81381 That's amazing.
@John Frylock Root beer, most likely. ;)
@John Frylock Think I remember hearing that they normally used syrup and food coloring. It was different things a couple times but in the end they decided to stick with that. It was never anything that you couldn't consume though.
I loved Weyoun. I love overly polite bad guys.
+Lilit Beglarian Oh, yes! So elegantly sinister!
Agreed. kind of why Garak is my favorite character. impeccable manners, even in rage.
kingofblades
Oh, yeah!
The stupid founders could never get Weyoun's recipe quite right and thats why he was a legend
He got so mistreated by both the Founders and the Jem'Hadar.
I think he is the universe's most hated man.
He enjoyed contempt from his enemies, subordinates and leaders.
Weyoun's laugh cracks me up. He's usually so controlled and polite, but that laugh is so giddy and childish.
Well, when you think about it, given that he's a clone and one that seems rather prone to dying...
How old do you think he technically is? XD
0:41
Weyoun looks like his parents are fighting at the dinner table
Dukat's little 'wat' as Weyoun drinks is the greatest 'wat' in the history of television
Avery Brooks really knocked it out of the park with just that little WTF double-take. Perfect execution.
Both of those surprised looks did seem very genuine.
I recall reading that Jeffrey Combs ad libbed drinking the poison or at least the other actors weren’t told he was going to do it, so if true then their reactions were genuine, and they were good enough to stay in character.
I dunno, I think Skeletor still has him beat.
I can't unsee it now :)
Y'know, even if he is part of an oppressive quadrant-spanning empire, Weyoun's just adorable!
Weyoun's having a lovely day at the beginning there, isn't he. Bless his fuzzy little head. 😂
I just imagine Weyoun and Vizzini from "The Princess Bride" as one character in this scene.
"Vorta are immune to most forms of poison! Ahahaha! Ahahahaha! Ahahaha!"
***THUD.***
Never go in against the Vorta ambassador of the Dominion When Peace and War are on the Line!!!!
***** Lone Wolf
LOL!
That was such a good movie.
INCONCEIVABLE!!!
The irony of course is that Vizzini is the Grand Nagus Zek.
3Rayfire
OMG are you serious?!?!? That's awesome, I never knew that.
He's only mostly dead. Sounds like a job for Miracle Max.
SUCH a great scene. The tension between Sisko and Dukat is only matched by Jeffrey Combs' masterful delivery.
Love the reaction shot from Sisko... and the way the scene goes from INTENSITY... outrageous humor... more intensity... AND IT WORKS!
OuroborosChoked Something various comic book movies today could take a note from. ;)
They should get a room
That gobsmacked "Whaa--" and look on Dukat's face when Weyoun drinks the kanar is so natural I wonder how much of it was even scripted.
I'd think all of it. Marc Alaimo is a masterful actor.
It would be so funny if that was adlibbed and Vorta poison immunity was because of an outtake they left in.
According to Casey Biggs, he said in an interview that the stuff that they used for Kanar tasted really bad
@@detectivesnickers6176 they used straight up corn syrup for Kanar...the actor who played Damar in the later seasons had to drink tons of it and the green stuff they always had in those square glasses.
I asked Rene Auberjonois (Odo) on Twitter if a particular scene had been partly ad-libbed and he was clear that they always stuck to word for word accuracy. I wondered the same about this scene but the camera had to cut to Sisko's reaction so it was planned. As good as both Brooks and Alaimo are a showing surprise, I think their reactions would have been different if Combs had done that unscripted based on all the blooper reels I've seen.
i loved dukats little "wha...?"
+lordlossize “Enclave” GG "Are you insane?"
It was such a natural reaction.
Unscripted.
LOVED IT!!!
Cracks me up everytime
Fun fact about Vorta. While they are immune to most poisons and toxins, some toxins can essentially get them high for a couple of moments.
2:14 Weyoun was tripping balls.
That gave me a whole new point of view! Hahahahaha XD
Apparently this thing about drinking it and Vorta being immune to poison was completely improvised by Combs in this scene. Makes the reactions från the other two actors quite fantastic!
haha, i just noticed that. good catch, he was feeling pretty good, I think haha.
If I was immune to MOST forms of poison, I still wouldn't test them out 🤣
@@IronThreads8-h9p He's like that one of those kids in Highschool who learned about toxic frogs causing hallucinations and immediately spending days licking various ones in the local waterways trying to test them out.
I love how Weyoun is always so calm and reserved most of the time, but here he's so giddy like a kid. You can tell that Jeffrey Combs was having fun.
Five seconds later, Weyoun is right back at it "DABO! HA!HAHEHE!"
so true.;.lol....Jeffrey Combs is such a GREAT actor!!!
I love how he says *most* forms of poison-means he was still taking a risk by drinking that ;-).
He probably knew what poison it was and knew he was immune to it.
@@the_synack Well, Sisko named the posion in this very scene. So, no risk here.
@@Drosophilax you stole my comment :(
Amber Lynn There’s also the fact that if it did kill him his clone would be activated to replace him and it would deliver to the founders the information of a new poison they would need to build an immunity for in their Vorta genetic model.
well caffeine is a powerful insecticide, so should be a poison to cardasians. If somebody said that a bottle had enough caffeine to kill 12 cardasians I might be tempted to try it too. :D
The line between poison and narcotic can sometimes be fuzzy.
2:16 Weyoun's face 😂😂😂 totally entertained by Sisko's anger. Looks like he's thinking "oooooh Dukat you're in trooouble you made him mad" 😂 like kids do when one gets in trouble with the teacher
Weyoun was so funny!!!!!!
His face was priceless 😂
THat's exactly the expressison! haha
The verbal wars between Dukat and Sisko are some of the best dialogue ever written
and yet so easily shut down by Weyoun. A great scene
The conversations between Dukat and Weyoun were gold too.
You gotta check out Londo and G'kar.
Dukat vs Garak
S2 Cardassians
S3 Civil Defense
S4 The Way of the Warrior
S5 In Purgatory's Shadow
Having them not square off on so much as a long-distance communication for 2 & 1/2 seasons...
About as dumb as Garak, Dukat, Weyoun or Q never appearing in a Star Trek movie.
You could not pull this prank with Damar. He would drink the kanar before Sisko is finished offering it.
Weyoun's expression at the end is just like, "OOOOOOH BUSTED."
Bad luck Weyoun: Was genetically programmed to withstand most toxic poisons however their necks are as weak as a pair of twigs.
lol
maybe he should talk to Worf about a chiropractor :P
Well obviously. They were genetically designed to be diplomats and administrators. The Jem-Hadar were the ones with the strong necks.
Let's say they did have stronger necks to better survive neck snapping, Weyoun still has an instant kill switch hidden in it.
The lizard guys had the genes for strength.
This entire scene is just such a testament to the writing team from DS9. Every single word said has a purpose and direction. Subtext just drips from every single thing that comes out of the mouths of all three of them, and it really helps to put the burgeoning conflict into perspective. It is frankly sublime. Bravo.
Actually the part where weyoun drinks is improvisation.
But yeah for the rest i agree.
Dukat says, " ah, no thank you. I'm not particularly thirsty right now."
Says this while holding a drink in his hand. Guilty.
After watching this scene 100 times, I just noticed that too.
Weyoun: Hohoho, who delightful! Oh the mysterious plots, the subtle innuendos the veiled threats its all so entertaining. But hey, watch this!
*drinks poison*
Sisko and Dukat: O_O!
Yeah, I love how, even though Sisko and Dukat hated each other so much, their reaction to that was exactly the same! :D
Sisko's face was priceless.
I LOVE the hohoooo the look of glee on his face!
Weyoun: Are you going to finish that? Oh right (proceeds to chug down the rest of the bottle).
yeah then falls backwards off his chair haha
I like how when Sisko snarled "Is that what I'm doing," Dukat had the look of "Why didn't I expect that response from Sisko. I know full well he doesn't scare easily." They all played such wonderful dialogue just with their facial expressions.
Taking nothing away from Sir Patrick or Nimoy or other Star Trek greats, this was by far the best acted of all the Star Treks. Not just these three but Shimerman, Hertzler, Auberjonois, the list goes on. Fantastic writing as well.
Not to mention that the show did more to actually expand and develop the races of the ST universe than most of the other post TNG series combined
James Martin Stewart was the only one who consistantly put in great performances in TNG. Dorn and Meaney put in their best performances on DS9. TNG was very lucky with Stewart.
Could not agree more ds9 is by far my fav because of the character development and ofc it has the best star trek character of all time in it. Garak.
James Martin
Deep Space Nine is definitely my favourite Star Trek. But I love them all really.
godking I'd say Brett Spiner did a consistently great job as well.
After personally seeing how happy Weyoun was at winning dabo, it’s so strange that Dukat had the gall to ask Weyoun if he was “anhedonic” (incapable of experiencing joy) later on in the series lol.
It makes perfect sense actually, the impression we get is that Vorta are essentially capable of acting however they want to best manipulate the people they're dealing with into giving them what they want. Just because he *looks* like he's enjoying it doesn't mean he's actually feeling anything.
Watching this as a kid, I never realised how clever Sisko was in his wording, getting Dukat to implicitly admit to trying to poison Ghemour.
My first thought
"That Kanar looks a lot like Jagermeister"
When Weyoun says "that's quite toxic, isn't it?"
"Yep, that's Jagermeister, alright"
Yeager bombs for everyone
Damn it, now I'm craving a glass of jaegermeister but I'm broke for the next two weeks. :D
I mean, Jaegermeister DID debut in Nazi Germany, and the Cardassians being space Nazis and all...
TheTickRules, perhaps it's a bit like whiskey. Whiskey is a catch-all for many forms of alcohol. It can be made with corn, barley, rye, etc. It can be clear, yellowish, brown.
@@thetickrules I know, Garak drank a orange kind of drink, which they called kanar.
Dukat: "Are you INSANE?!?!?"
Weyon: "No, but YAHOO!!! I'M CUCKOO FOR COCOA PUFFS!!! CUCKOO FOR COCOA PUFFS!!!"
Jeffrey Comb's body language is fantastic here. He gently sits down, crosses his legs the second he senses things are about to get tense, and just sits there wide-eyed as two of two most important Alpha Quadrant leaders bicker about petty political drama.
That little "Wha?" Dukat makes. His brain temporarily freezes as it can't comprehend what the eyes are seeing.
Weyoun was so much fun here. I think he enjoyed vexing Dukat.
1:40 Dukat and Sisko's faces are priceless. Also I like to imagine Weyoun kept and drank the rest afterwards
he enjoys the different textures... and poisons
Weyoun downing that drink was a Coombs improv.
It had to be.
Marc Alaimo was shocked enough that someone would drink the prop Kanar... his line "are you insane"... it's about half an octave up from the deep base voice "Dukat" usually uses.
Avery Brooks (Sisko) seven years... that has to be one of the rare occasions he was not ready for what he just saw.
Pity he didn't interact with Weyoun after the season 5 finale.
01:46
Weyoun's first experience with LoL community.
+GeneralProfessor 1:51 Dukat's reaction to Weyoun exposing himself to the LoL community to begin with.
Looks my face after I brush my teeth and drink some lemonade
GeneralProfessor And the second, third, fourth...
Later on, Gul Dukat is getting salty because he's struggling not to feed, while Weyoun is crushing it as MVP.
*Gul Dukat:* "I don't know WHY you insist on playing this ridiculous game..."
*Weyoun: "I LIKE GAMES."*
LMAO
That look on Weyoun's face as Sisko leaves is just priceless. Like a school kid watching one of his classmates takes the walk of shame to the principles office knowing exactly what he did.
Along with "poor eyesight, good ears" this is one of Weyoun's best scenes.
Jeffrey Combs is a legend.
You know how this scene would have been have funnier if Wyoun just dropped dead a few seconds after this scene
Sisko and dukats face when weyoun drinks the poison ,😂😂😂
"I like games!" - Explains sooo much about why they are cloned so much!
This is one of Avery Brooks's top 10 scenes as Benjamin Sisko. I always loved when he pulled power moves, but one of my favorite shots in the entire series is his reaction to Weyoun drinking the poison, mainly because it's so weird to see him so shocked at anything so unexpected.
Tbh I was expecting Weyoun to actually die there and just be replaced by another a few episodes later.
I think out of all his many ST characters, Weyoun MUST have been Jeffrey Combs's favorite. How could he not be? Look how much FUN he was having! ^_^
nfinn42 He actually mentioned in an interview that Weyoun was his favourite :D
Yes I bet Vorta are immune to most forms of poison....except Neelix's "better than coffee" substitute :P LOL
Dukat: Are you insane??
Weyoun: No, but you'll be soon enough
Dukat: What?
Weyoun: What?
Weyoun is by far my most favourite villain in DS9...!!! He is ruthless and completely evil and gives horrible orders to his troops! But he is also a great diplomatic genius and can be very polite and even sympathic...! And he does all of that with a smile on his face...!!! In my opinion Jeffrey Combs did a unique job to play the character of Weyoun...!!! Much much applause from my side for this underrated actor (who also played Brunt (FCA), Shran (Andorian) and of course Dr. Herbert West (Re-Animator)...!!!
He is _not_ sympathetic.
For a diplomat turn general of an totalitarian regime, he can still crack a good joke and enjoy life. Kinda makes you wonder what Kim Ill does for fun to make him smile.
I don't think Weyoun is actually evil. I think he falls more along the Amoral spectrum.
@@Escap1st7 He sort of is, thanks to "Treachery, Faith and the Great River." It's pretty obvious if not for his genetic disposition to blind Founder obedience, he'd actually be a really cool guy. But with it, he will be a monster if that'll further Dominion goals.
And lets not forget how he is constantly sucking up to the founders.
my dad used to buy this super-concentrated apple juice, very dark brown color, just thicker than plain water, and sweet like it's gonna give you diabetes just by looking at it....
you were supposed to dilute it with water, at 3 to 1, or 4 to 1 ratio, but most of the times I drank it right from the bottle.
it started almost burning my throat of how sweet and thick it was, but over time, I developed a resistance to it, and I could drink it pure..... I'd still drink the equivalent of a diluted serving of it, but all at once, it would have made anyone else throw up.
if it had had alcohol in it, and a little more kick, it would have been the closest thing to kanar.
I JUST finished rewatching this series a few months ago, which was my third time...watching this makes me want to rewatch the whole series again
Oh man jeffrey combs laugh is priceless. Its delivered just perfect. And he guzzles down the kanar with vrax poison init. Brilliant.
Love the shock on both Sisko and Dukat when Weyoun drinks it, lol.
Enough to kill a dozen kardashians? Count me in!
where can we get some kanar? we got about a dozen or more kartrashians as customers for quark's special kanar.
@Nicolas Johnson NO! i wrote KARTRASHIANS and i meant KARTRASHIANS and through in bruce jenner also while you are at it
Kim Cardassian?
@@oldtwinsna8347 no KARTRASHIANS !! learn to read!
Sisko: "Hey is this Kanar, or poison?"
Weyoun: *grabs and drinks all of it* "It's poison."
The amount of seratonin I get from Weyoun shouting “Dabo!” n proceeding to laugh and say “I like games” is unparalleled
Like, I know weyoun’s a villian, but he’s so adorable in the beginning of this clip
Sisko had the funniest reaction!!!!LMAO, Oh my, that is quite toxic
I don't think he's ever looked so stunned
I love Weyoun 5 in this scene, I like how each of the Weyoun have subtly different personalities.
Dukat: "No thank you. I"m not particularly thirsty right now." (said as he's holding a drink)
"Is that what I'm doing?" I love Brook's delivery.
It's sad that the Weyoun who ended up defecting, basically, was killed. He could have become a very very very cool permanent character aboard the station.
"... in that bottle is enough voraxna poison to kill at least a dozen Cardassians ..."
(at end of scene Sisko says "you can keep it" and walks away, just leaving the opened bottle of poisoned booze on the table in a crowded bar)
I love their reactions when he drinks it.
"Oh we are immune to most forms of poison."
"Um thats fine, but this was actually a highly corrosive ac--- yup, down he goes."
Just rewatched this episode the other day and this one scene made me glad I did. Jeffrey Combs is excellent here. I love the little sideways look at the end as if he's hoping Dukat will provide him with some more entertainment.
I'd say drinking a cup full of poison because your natural immune response is overpowered is a "weird flex, but okay" moment, but it was done by a Jeffrey Combs character, so it gets a pass.
Slithery as the Weyouns were, they were quite entertaining. Coombs is awesome. I've said on other posts, Shran the Andorian was a boss on ST:ENT. Also: Don't Eff with the Sisko.
YES so true. Jeffery Coombs is BEYOND underrated and undercast
Snodge Kat
Underrated, yes. Undercast, HAH!
To count, Coombs has been Brunt (FCA), A Ferengi on Enterprise, an alien that wanted holo-porn of Kira, Weyoun of course, and an alien in Voyager that forced Seven of Nine to fight in a holographic cage match. He probably has the most roles out of any actor that was in Star Trek.
Lost How can you leave out Shran!
James Martin
Whoops! I meant to include Shran as well.
Shran was just an Angry Weyoun, not much effort was put in by Combs to make the character sound any differen't to Weyoun.
Atleast he put more effort into making Brunt sound differen't, even after Weyoun was introduyced the season after Brunt was.
'Most' poisons. I sure hope he knew what poisons fall outside the 'most' category.
The one they use to commit suicide rather than fall into enemy hands.
Took me years to notice that Weyun just gave away a secret about his race that would have been very handy if kept a secret.
I guess he do it for break this atmosphere of "one word more and i will kill you". So thus was actually a very smart diplomatic move.
I find the idea of Weyoun drinking it, doing that diplomat joke and dying funny... even more so just the idea of the aftermath. "Does this count as assassination or suicide or... what?"
I like to imagine if Garak was here, he would have had even more fun than Weyoun at Dukat's expense!
"You used enough poison to kill 12, for 1 sickly man? If you'd used a much smaller dose, it might have actually gone undetected! What's the matter Dukat, are your intelligence operations bit lacking without the Obsidian Order? Perhaps they could use a good tailor!"
i absolutely read that in garaks voice (complete with the birdlike head tilts}
@@sariarosegold And finishing up with his classic smile.
Weyoun is a delight in this scene.
I need to make a Buzzfeed list of "X number of times Weyoun was my spirit animal."
12. "When your friends get in a public argument." *GIF of Weyoun's face at the end of the video*
Oh, Weyoun, so goofy and over the top. There were times when I really struggled to take him seriously.
So when a bartender ask Weyoun to 'pick his poison', he takes it quite literally.
Jeffrey, you absolute boss! This is one of my favourite scenes of all time.
Weyoun's expressions! He looks like a child caught between two parents arguing.
Weyoun is one of the best villains in Star Trek. In fact, he's one of the best villains in science fiction in general. A fantastically written, fantastically acted character.
I like to imagine everyone just walked off and left the kanar on the table and eventually someone is like ooo free drink *thud*
Haha this makes me think Weyoun would be epic company on a night out.
If you have something he wants, he'd be the universes best wingman. lol
Weyoun's reaction at 0:14 is priceless.
Ada Bee : Same! Makes me laugh every time! 😂😂😂
Thank you! I never noticed this before.
Note Combs' eyes at the end of the scene contemplatively returning to the kanaar. You can just see Weyoun thinking, "I wonder if another glass would make me look like a lush?"
Jeffrey Combs is a master
This Weyoun's got a delightful sense of humour. Knocking back poison like it's nothing in the face of accusation.
I like Dukat's and Cisco's shared expressions of surprise when Weyoun drinks the poison.
SISKO!
part of the reason he drank it with gusto is cuz he's not afraid of death, since he knows he'll just be cloned if he does depart this mortal coil
He is afraid of death. Its in the episode where he kinda defects to Odo. He will be cloned if he dies but the individual Weyoun will still die.
@@Narrenspiel6 He views his past clones as his ancestors it seems like. He's very offended when people joke about the death of a past clone, despite having all his memories saved apparently.
@@BlazingOwnager Each Weyoun clone is a different person they just look and act very similar to each other. There was a 'defective clone' who was against the Dominion at one point so they can vary quite a lot.
@@Enzo012 Yep, that was a great episode. For the most part having a memory upload of all past clones seems to make them in general the same except for.. flukes.