Hydrogen powered V8 ICE High RPM Test
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- Karl Rudisill, Element One Technologies Founder and CEO tests his internal combustion engine, a Chevy V8, in a high RPM test running 100% Hydrogen.
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Keeping the internal combustion dream alive!
It’s not dying anyways we can’t sustain our grid nor build batteries to supply electric vehicles to replace ice ones. You can run your fridge all year for less then it cost to charge electric vehicle under a month
Future of motorsports wont have to succumb to electric motor noises!
@@mikemikeyee It will. An updated Formula E will eventually replace Formula 1.
Why are people acting like gasoline engines are going anywhere anytime soon?
@@Thumper68 Fridge don't use that much power, not a good comparison. but still, without a miracle battery or fuel cell internal combustion will never even begin to die out.
This is where I want to see our future go. Excellent work.
hydrogen on-site made = FTW !
It's also more green than electric car, with rebuilding resource intensive battery pack atleast every 4th year. Imagine how much energy it takes to get the limited rare earths from ground to factory and to consumer. It's crasy.
@gmail account And there are some cars still running after 50 years, while most of them are long gone and rusted away. In normal daily use in colder countries, like the one I live in. Tesla batteries have approximately half the range when fully charged after 2-3 years. 4 Years is absolute maximum time you can use one set of batteries. Here is a video where local guys blow up a tesla when the owner lost the warranty after trying to fix broken battery pack in quite low mileage tesla. It can work in sunny california but it's not so good here. ua-cam.com/users/results?search_query=beyond+the+press+tesla+explosion And this is why we need other solutions than 100% electric car everywhere. On top of that EV:s are boring while many like the sounds of sport cars-
@gmail account It may not be as efficient but there would definitely be demand for engines like this if normal engines eventually become regulated out of existence.
@gmail account You are right about the extreme cold weather, it's not good for any cars yet but so far petrol (or perhaps hydrogen powered combustion, or the fuel cell technology would suffice) is my only option. We have EVs in cities on people who have access to warm parking cave and/or access to charger for example at work place garage or atleast they have warm garage at home, which many in apartment blocks don't have. 5 000 people and less than 5 chargers per block makes quite a long queue lines.
I'm little sad I must say I really am glad to have a good conversation about this. These days people tend to join the extremes in every guestion and cannot tolerate people with differing ideas or opinions. Yet we still must try to coexist on this Earth.
Have a nice day/evening sir.
i would love to see how it performs under actual load like on an engine dyno .
Yes, gas vs hydrogen.
Toyota has a hydrogen powered Corolla, there's a video of it on UA-cam and it sounds just like a regular 4 cylinder!
Check out mythbusters circa 20 years ago
Well the engine is still in the early stages of development so you'll just have to wait
deeply disappointing I'm afraid. This is pointless.
This video remembers me of the old youtube content: real people showing fun things that they'd like to share.
Awesome!
Man I've never been so pumped to watch an engine get up to 4k RPM! Great work!
Heck yeah. This machine has still got a soul in it
my thoughts too. I'd be cool with this
Love to see work like this and that you are excited by it. Innovation is still alive. Never sell out, this is fabulous work to keep in your name and build on.
I see alot of potential here! I have wondered about injecting vaporized water to reduce knock? Either way imagine a zero emissions hot rod that still has a normal engine in it!
There is no knock with hydrogen. You can lean it out up to lambda 7, which is almost as good as a diesel. Only problem is the low power density, direct injection and turbos are a must.
More uninformed nonsense.
@@blubb7711 That isn't true.... if you run it too lean it could create an explosive detonation. Its just harder to do. You can technically water inject on a hydrogen ICE, it just won't benefit anything but niche cases.
Wouldnt be 100% zero emission, as it will still burn some oil. But it will be alot better. Also i forget i think hydrogens octane rating is 130 (ron)
@@Colt45hatchback yes, that’s why 1g/km co2 counts as zero emissions. It’s hard to quantify it’s RON, some sources say 130 and some 150.
Ran my VW 411 LE on LPG basically on same setup way back in 1980 to work and back every day.
Electrical Foreman didn't believe so I demonstrated to him.
Was quite cheaper than running on petrol at time and much cleaner burning on spark plugs and exhaust with no bad effects on engine.
Two years before that I ran same car on 100 % ETHANOL with minor adjustment to Dwell angle in Distributor, magnificent increase on power.
You need to control the fuel delivery and air delivery as a combination based off of a load multiplier just like a standard fuel table. I am sure you could set this up on an aftermarket engine ECU such as a Holley EFI system, and using both MAP and IAT sensors you could control both the throttle body for air and using a MAC valve on one of the outputs on the Holley system to control your fuel solenoid. You need a large supply and a large hose to the solenoid, with the solenoid being as close to your injectors as possible.
plenty of people running custom systems and SBC on stock 0411 PCMs... now that they are free to unlock.
What we should do is try to see if we can get that water vapor exhaust to condense in an intercooler and then return the water to an Electrolysis unit. There was a guy who made an amazing design for such a machine. He had specific sizing for the metal plates.
@@joshuawhite3411 LOL specific sizing or not, it takes electric energy for the electrolysis and it will require more power from the engine to run the electrolysis then you will ever get back from the Hydrogen gas that was produced if you pipe it back into the engine.
@@milanswoboda5457 Bullsht you run the electrolysis unit of your Alternator which you buy in many different Amperage outputs so all you have to do is either replace your original alternator with a much higher amperage unit, or install a second alternator to your engine DER. Lmfao.
@@fullboostturbo1 LOL someone is an absolute genius here. Newsflash, an alternator will require power from the engine in order to make the electricity and it will pull more kinetic energy from the engine than the electric energy it generates in accordance to the electric load connected and with it the engine will use extra fuel to turn that alternator which converts the kinetic energy to electric energy. Get yourself a bicycle bottle generator and turn it by hand with and without a load connected, you might learn something ;)
Keep this up I believe in this. Just need an efficient way to store hydrogen
Currently hydrogen is not up to the task. A vehicle can only carry a fraction of the energy available in gasoline do to vessel size required for pressurized hydrogen. Liquid hydrogen requires an enormous power hungry refrigeration unit to transport. So neither is practical. Only if some new technology comes around that can store hydrogen as a liquid or solid would this be viable. And remember, hydrogen is not a source of energy, it is only a storage of energy, and not a very good one currently. Gasoline is a source of energy. What about developing a fuel cell that transforms gasoline into electricity and it's byproducts in a non-polluting manner? Imagine an EV with a 3-5 gallon tank and 1000 mile range?
Duh it's in a bottle
@@jamesclark830 Incorrect use Hydride safe hydrogen storage. They don't want cheap easy energy. ua-cam.com/video/wRqqzt6Xe1M/v-deo.html
@@jamesclark830 this !
@@jamesclark830 cosworth catalytic generator. Yawn. Looking at putting one in my hybrid v8 build. But as for an all ev. The market will already be saturated enough by the time hydrogen and e-fuels are developed enough to balance things out. Develop it all.
Congratulations on a successful test, what a step for such an awesome tech
My father was a tech since 1971 and growing up in the world of combustion i've been sad to think that will die within his life span. Hydrogen!!! Thank you for this video. I can picture my v6 jeep running on hydrogen one day so I dont need to give up on combustion.
I’m not nearly intelligent enough to understand the engineering that went into this, but I will say that is one very very smooth running small block!
I honestly knew it would work, it’s about the ratios and air flow rates and hydrogen flow rates, stoichiometrically speaking
Would love to see more engine testing and see how good you can get it
So great to se that the combustion engine has a future. The sounds are very important in the mororsport and the car community..👍😁
This is what UA-cam is made for, not empty content
This was exciting to watch! I’d love to see where this goes. Funding & Optimization will take this soooo far
BMW have been pouring plenty of cash into this, they still can't make it viable.
Very good, I am capturing part of your video and solely for the purpose of proving a legacy engine can run and performs better running on hydrogen than on gasoline. If you are having problems with consistency in maintaining fuels it’s because the engine is carbonated. The floats are actuated by liquid. Once the fuel bowls are empty it’s difficult to meter the fuel. This is why the RPM’s increase once the gasoline is gone. It’s because you are using a regulator that you are able to precisely control the the fuel. If the engine were EFI you could control it with a conventional throttle and timing.
Amazing, thanks you so much for your hard work. ❤
There are no floats to contend with.
Good Job man, I enjoyed your enthusiasm as well!
Your excitement reminded me of Doc on “Back to the future” ! 🤜🤛
better make it known that you arent suicidal or have any death wish.... there was another fellow that had a hydrogen engine back in the 80s and he disappeared... god speed brother!!
Just don't try to capitalize on it. People only care cuz they didn't think of it first and on a mass scale it would render gasoline useless.
I hope this technology takes off to the masses so we can once and for all save the combustion engine all while being environmentally friendly
I have a all forged turbocharged gen1 sbc 383. I love that engine.
I love how excited you are!
Great Experiment. 👌🏾👍🏾 I knew Hydrogen can be replaces with Petrol gas in internal combustion engines.
Glad to see it's not only possible but sounds amazing! Good job!
Incredible! Great work, sir!
Wow it seems your video has caused quite a stir! very cool. well done man!
Thank you for keeping our dreams alive.
Did you build this? I mean seriously, this is incredible! That engine runs so damned smooth.
Yes - I built the entire engine from the ground up and the fuel delivery system
This has always been my dream for 1964 Chevrolet Impala!!!
There might be some thing here with maybe a water injection system to try and slow the detonation down. Ping ping you gonna melt your pistons over time!
As someone who is extremely bummed to see ev’s slowly take over I am a full supporter this is awesome! Hope this will be developed in the future!
I love to see how happy he is, keep the work up, this may be the saving grace for all those who enjoy classic cars, as the push away from gasoline gets stronger.
I love your enthusiasm. Thanks for sharing
Dude this is seriously impressive.
Congratulations!
This is fantastic! Hydrogen ICE is the future.
No it's not. The fuel tank needs to be 5 times larger to travel the same distance as gasoline. Not to mention the terrible emissions from Hydrogen ICE. It's a cool idea, but terribly impractical.
this should be out to market soon, we need more of you to get the word out there
The problem is how much hydrogen it uses. The better alternative is hydrogen fuel cells that convert the hydrogen to electricity and then run an electric motor.
Why bother with this technological dead end.
@@rogerphelps9939 clueless
Hydrogen is very, very, very small.
It leaks, no matter what you do.
It leaks through rubber seals, it leaks through gaskets, it leaks through pipes if given enough time.
Don't get me wrong, great idea; practical hell if you want to power an engine separately from an hydrogen producing facility.
Storage is almost impossible and if it leaks underground, it makes for an explosive combination that's virtually unstoppable.
@@TheGagabou ya, all of those problems you mentioned are mitigated by maintenance … which adds to costs. I read hydrogen is 8x less energy efficient because of generation losses, compression losses, transport losses, decompression losses, conversion losses. It seems the only industry where it would make sense is one where weight of fuel and batteries would be a barrier. Such as airlines and yachts. Massively expensive energy solution.
F@cking awesome!! Now we need to do an electric hybrid diesel and see how well that works. The ICE is the future, we just need to be smarter!!
No. ICE is extremely inefficient, so it is not the future. But it could potentially be a stop-gap measure by allowing people with short range requirements to use renewable energy to produce hydrogen from batteries and running the car on that hydrogen. Even if you only had ten kilometers per day, that would be enough for a lot of people.
@@jeschinstad
6 miles? That is not good for most people. I travel 16 miles to work every day. EV's and hydrogen are not good energy sources. Now a boron fusion car/truck would be perfect. It could last 100 years on one fill up. One hand full of boron can supply enough energy to power the USA for three years!!
@@stevenpeterson7234 Hydrogen is not an energy source, but an energy storage. I took the number out of air. It would probably be possible to get you 50 miles or more using cheap car batteries to run on zero cost. That's of course nothing compared to the 7-800 miles you get on a hydrogen car, but you could easily charge everywhere. The problem a lot of people create is that they think that a solution must either be for everyone or not for anyone.
Amazing. I'd love to see you making a muscle car with a hydrogen engine!
congrats brother, that was awesome to see
my dream for my trusty old land rover 4.0 here in the UK i use standard LPG / autogas with the setup through a condenser but instead of supporting it here in the UK they are killing it even though it is cleaner than petrol. and i keep saying hydrogen is th future and we can run our ~V~8's on it no problem just need them to build the tech and supply the gas... keep it up and keep our v8's going please
Did the same in New Zealand with CNG & LPG.
Love to see the dino sheets, while running gas, and then the same motor running hydrogen.
Sounds beautiful on hydrogen (and gas)! It is practical to run ICE's on hydrogen gas. Here's the problem, no one wants to carry a hydrogen gas bottle around in their car or truck because it can explode in a collision if it loses pressure sealing and they hydrogen escapes. The BEST way is to produce hydrogen from water immediately as needed. That is the safest way. No one has done this with good efficiency yet.
you cannot produce enough hydrogen onboard to run at 4000 RPMs
Unreal. Have been loosely following the GR Corolla hydrogen build and it would seem the only limiting factor now is efficient storage. I genuinely hope this is the future, not EV.
Love the enthusiasm 👊🏻
Imagine that, using our brains to evolve our technologies.
This is for all of us with old cars that can't afford a new one.
Fun project. Very clear from the demonstration why we don’t use that as a usable fuel source.
It's still possible but the technology isn't ready yet but once it is alot of people will be driving hydrogen powered vehicles
@@kylebeach2316 Never going to happen. I applaud this guy for doing this but anyone who thinks hydrogen is going to be a reality simply doesn’t understand the physics behind it.
Good work nothing like a sbc best engines ever imo.
That was intense! Good job :-)
This is an ok solution for trying to keep old engines alive, but its not efficient or optimum to achieve net zero (all pollutants), but, build an engine with the compression and combustion chambers hydrogen desires, and then my friends, we have a ICE future! Currently managing as lean 100:1 air to hydrogen with little to no NOX. We have the solution, just need to convince the world BEV’s are not the way!
Well done Karl!
YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BOOOM!!!!!! AWESOME JOB SIR!!!!
Hydrogen is just so hard to store it likes to leak slowly no matter what. But what I like
about Hydrogen is that it is plentiful and is
less damaging to our environment.
Elon says he wants to come out with a Hydrogen Vehicle I would love ❤️ to see his
finished product.
Nice work sir. 👏 now start testing with a load on the engine
A more realistic approach than the idea of everybody driving electric vehicles with the current battery technology. Thank you for your efforts.
Congratulations !!!
I love IC engines ever
Rather see Hydrogen cars take the lead over
battery powered less environmental impact.
Plus we get to keep our normal gas ⛽️
Motor driven engines . Would like to see it
order load like in a truck pulling a load .
Please more testing but next time have a
full bottle of Hydrogen. Thanks 😊.
Sweet as heck
That it is. Curious to see where you go with that sweet setup.
That was awesome! I'd love to build a hydrogen generator and power a lil yblock some day an put on the road!
James 1:17
John 3:16
the excitement of ICE's
He’s like a mad scientist
"..run up to 4000 RPM and really put a load to the engine"
So, where was the 'load'?
combustion engines are able to run on any burnable gas , the power depends on the caloric capacity of said gas per volume
we have them running on the gas that comes off of rotting garbage and litterally shit from cows over here (these are stationairy generators and they run the exhaustgas through a boat header to heat up water for the central heating and hot water ) ll you need is to find the right af ratio for the perticulair type of gas and have enough pressure or flow to feed enough of it intoo the engine
we call this stuff biogas and we can cook on it too (just make sure the gas is lit at all times as it has a certain smell to it )
think an ls engine and gas injectors (propane injectors) run by a stand alone ecu would be way more efficient than the mecanical system youre running at the moment , you can tune the af ratio and the ignition timing all through the powerband and it will adjust itself using a lambda sensor
would take more time to tune it to be perfect but once done it will run forever (you do need harder valveseats as the gas cools the seats less and provide less lubrication and sealing ) if the gas has a higher pctane rating it helps to run a higher static compression as power goes down a little compared to running gasoline when running the low compression
That was incredible 👏
Do you change the timing?.. as hydrogen is more of a rapid implosion, the inventor of the JOE CELL used to alter the timing quite a bit.. great video, keep at it..
Volvo H engines are running 700-800 bar on the H injection
and this video proves that any petrol engine can be made to be green. More interestingly, how low pressure you need, this video tells me you need approximately 50psi to run an old style engine on.
Why is this "new" JPL (jet propulsion lab) had 3 test cars 2 chevys and a dodge in the mid 70s running on hydrogen. It was proven very viable BUT their main problem was acquiring the hydrogen. The engines ran just fine.
Hydrogen is actually superior to gasoline in terms of energy/power delivered.
And if you need someting more silent with better torque you can use a fuel cell + electric motor without the need of batteries.
I love how happy he was.
When the Hydrogen kicked in, it definitely sounded like that engine really woke up!
This audible change is typical of all ICEs running on hydrogen
just discovered your channel.... this is great! I've been touting that hydrogen ICEs are the way to go, it just makes huge sense, Even with its problems, but like many technologies in their early stages of development, it can be overcome. From all I've read about hydrogen, the main problems are the production of hydrogen in the first place, as it requires gas to be produced, but the newer 'Green Hydrogen' processes, shows that even though it's in its early stages of development, shows that hydrogen can be produced without using petroleum. Of course, like everything new, it has a much higher cost that gas... but again, all new technologies (not that hydrogen ICEs are new, but in its early development stage), it's just a matter of time, and when there's more demand, it becomes more profitable and the costs get lower. The other problem with hydrogen, though I don't see it as a problem, is the loss of power compared to gas. From what I remember, there's an approximate 15% loss of power, but that's not that big of a deal. Just look at how seemingly low powered engines in motorsports are tweaked and improved to produce absurd amounts of power, so that 15% loss can easily be overcome, and 15% is not that huge an amount. When the early days of pollution controls hit the auto industry back in the mid 70's, it reduced power levels a LOT more than 15%, and today's engines are a lot more efficient, cleaner, and produce many times more powerful engines with better pollution engineering. And, most importantly, all the businesses and manufacturers that are are built up from the ICE, can stay in business... Instead of being forced to go out of business.
I love your engine run stand, but I'm wondering what that big yellow tank is used for (?), as I can see your hydrogen is being fed from the tall bottle. Also, I cringe a bit at your proximity to your engine, you really need to put that engine in a proper separate test room, like any dyno room, separating yourself from any potential catastrophic engine failures. I see you're just in a garage, and obviously funds are limited, but that really, really needs to be addressed. All your work is going to mean nothing if you end up in the hospital unable to work on your project. But hey, congrats on your testing!! This is fantastic.
Though I'm not against battery operated vehicles, the idea that we should convert all of the almost 300 million vehicles to battery operated electric cars, just screams of trouble.... What with the ecological effect of creating that many strip mines and fracking wells (yes, fracking is a method of extracting lithium and we all know how damaging fracking is) will it take to produce that much lithium to power that many vehicles? And putting all of one's eggs in one basket, is just asking for trouble. Yes, once all the coal plants and eventually, all the natural gas plants are replaced by renewable power sources, electric will be even cleaner... but as we've seen, those power plants are at the mercy of extreme weather, and domestic terrorists... not that a hydrogen plant wouldn't be, but with electricity, the grid itself is just way too open to damage. Going all electric is a bad, bad idea, and is gonna bite us in the arse in short order.
Hey, big props on your project... gonna keep watching and seeing how it goes. Good luck!! Now I have to check out your other videos....
By 2028 The Japanese Toyoda and Honda will have the Definite answers for What Kind of Cars we drive.
I copy here the Fuel Mix to Generate Electric Powers in Texas (ERCOT) which is the Best Independent Grids in USA.
Last Updated: Aug 31, 2023 19:29 CT
CURRENT GENERATION
Solar1,807 MW (2.5%)
Wind6,224 MW (8.7%)
Hydro228 MW (0.3%)
Power Storage917 MW (1.3%)
Other105 MW (0.1%)
Natural Gas 46,786 MW (65.5%) ‼
Coal and Lignite 10,419 MW( 14.6%)‼
Nuclear4,946 MW (6.9%) ‼
In half an Hour TX local time where Solar Energy would be Zero and more People Turn on their TV and Plug-in their Teslas.
The Percentages of Natural Gas would be 74% and Coals would be 14.5%
We/I have been monitor daily in August and The Grids are Dirty more than a Simple Small ICE Car -- the averaged ICE car has Engines of 120 KWatt/hr while as most Teslas are like 400 KWatt/hr.
Based on ERCOT and Many Agencies: The Efficiency of
Solar is 25% more or less
Wind 20%
Coals: with a typical U.S. coal plant operating at 32% to 33% efficiency.
Natural Gas: 50-57%
Then when Electric Powers Charging Batteries and Run Electric Motors is around 80% in perfect Weather, when Sub-Zero Temp Winter Coldness Efficiency is 50%.
My Math shown the BEV are more Polluting or Higher C02 Emissions? Perhaps DOE and EPA have been using a different Charge/Standard to rate those Batteries EV!
That not including all the Mining to Get Metals to Make Batteries; and unless the New Solid States 🔋 🔋 Claimed by Toyoda and Tesla; Most BEV are 1200 lbs more Heavy than averaged ICE; The Tires and Road Surfaces worn-out. And that I have not accounted where would be the Energy to generate enough Electricity for USA even with 50% were BEV Electrified Vehicles??‼‼
Cheers,
This is definitely gonna be the future.
There's gonna be the people in new electric cars and hydrogen converted cars.
No
Yes, get rid off that combustion fuel, but keep the engine alive in time the 8.2L V8 will return.
The idea of being able to keep an internal combustion engine and have all that power, feeling and sound while producing no emissions is just nuts to think about. i hope this will become more of a normal standard in the future and not just EV
Great work !
Electric may be big right now. I don’t have a doubt it will be here in the future. But realistically hydrogen would be very easy to use the technology that we have today.
7:28-8:00 was my favorite part aside from running on hydro!!
Before you start to shell out how great this is, consider the weight of the rezervoir and the size to get any practical mileage
Carbon Fiber Hydrogen tanks are already a thing.. Just need twice the space as a petrol tank.
commposite tanjs are light run around 19999 psi will have the mileage.
@@reginaldbowls7180 five times the size, not two.
My dad said that any engine running H2 would be 40% efficient , he was a auto engineer
There are ways to increase the efficiency of a hydrogen powered engine.
You could automate the process with an open sourced EFI like rusEFI
Grande Enzo Salvi
Bring that hydrogen bomb up to 6000 rpm see what happens when you bounce that small block off the limiter on hydrogen that is my question nice work good video I have never seen someone so stoked over 3000 rpm out of a sbc
I may try this...
This guy is an evil genius…..I love it
Great Job! Keep going! Wee need man like you
YEAH!
Timing may have to be changed a little, as from memory, I recall that the hydrogen combusts faster than gasoline.
Im quite nervous about having a high pressure vessel like that on my car. Especially one with an element as hard to contain as hydrogen.
That being said, this was awesome to see. No backfiring, quite a smooth sounding operation, love it
Now i have a question. Is it a compression-ignition engine like a diesel, or does it use electrical ignition?
And absymal efficiency meaning prohibitive running costs.
This is a typical gasoline engine with spark plugs
We know engines will run hydrogen. What needs to be looked at more is storage and hydrogen embrittlement and production of hydrogen that isn't worse than directly burning coal.
Shortly afterwards, his garage was cleaned out, and his picture was put on milk cartons around the country.
YES!! This is awesome!
While i'm not a fan of hydrogen, (high pressure tanks and explosive) I have to admit there is not much more danger than a lithium fire. the point is, everyone is pushing the E solution, I see a combination using the conventional engines as well as hydrogen and E solutions. Look at our current power solutions, we have coal, gas and Nuclear to maintain our power needs, i see the same solutions for everything, no one solution will solve everything, It has to be a team approach
Amazing stuff buddy
I would never buy an EV over an Fuel Cell / H2 Vehicle...not after having seen how lethal an EV can be when it catches fire