Hydrogen Powered Muscle Truck: The Future is HERE! Supercharged LS Classic With Zero Emissions
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- Опубліковано 11 тра 2024
- Mike Copeland of Arrington Performance has been around the auto industry a long time. 25 years at General Motors doing special projects Mike has gathered the connections to create the worlds first functional Hydrogen powered Chevrolet LS Swap that has passed the EPA testing! This truck sounds and drives exactly like a conventional gasoline powered hot rod but with zero C02 emissions! Many naysayers have given Hydrogen bad press but that did not deter Mike and his friends at Bosch from doing the R&D to figure out this package. Someday in the near future you will be able to convert your existing vehicle to renewable Hydrogen power! Mike explains to us how that will be possible in this video!
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FORGOT TO ASK IN THE VIDEO: The range on that tank is 250-300 miles. During the Optima street car challenge event Mike spent 2.5 hours at WOT with one tank. He told us this before the camera was on and I forgot to ask it again.
MIKE FILLING THE TANK: ua-cam.com/users/shorts-_WwAJqZ6fM?feature=share
Usually we make videos about history. Today we made one that will be historic someday. This is the future! Send this video to a friend!
Tell the guy to stay out of small planes and travel in a group anybody who's ever invented a car that didn't run on electric or gasoline has died under mysterious circumstances
I'm ready the BP by me went from 3.19 to 3.63 in 4 days
Wonder if a CR 450 could be converted?
@@rodney1818 Well said! As I was watching the video I was thinking the same thing!
Make sum videos working on your cars
This was awesome. Thanks for sharing.
People that say it can't be done- shouldn't interrupt those that are doing it ! Well done Sirs !
Its not about it can't be done. Its just not reliable and efficient.
@@paulvanderveen1986 Exactly!!! As awseom as I think this video is, hydrogen engines have been possible for decades just not efficient.
And the. All those people drive by as you realise there’s no filling infrastructure and the cost to fill a tank is 15x more
And still burning oil.. Unless you're running pistons on 0 friction. Also, I would hate to have a hydrogen tank explode.
Its been done since the 1930s. There was a town in AZ where all the vehicles were hydrogen. Sun City. More recently Honda has been testing hydrogen cars for decades.
I like his statement where he said he was a technician before a engineer.
That's a man that knows practical real word stuff when it comes to cars, designing etc.
Absolutely!
As a GM technician and ASE certified master technician that was also my favorite part in this video and thats saying something. The ingenuity and calculations it must have taken to build this is insane. We have a saying as techs that "technicians are the people who fix the problems engineers create". So seeing what this man has accomplished is kind of like witnessing a "piece de resistance" in our lifetime right in front of us. This is a original and amazing truck/fuel system but sadly not groundbreaking. I hope he remembers the fiero that ran on water and the outcome of that technician/engineer, the car, and all the papers that showed how to vaporize the water to separate the oxygen from the hydrogen fuel source. When he couldn't be bought out by the big petroleum corporations he simply vanished along with every bit of his research and development on the fiero. Be careful with this technology! There are a lot of people that stand to lose very large fortunes and have shown that they can get away with silencing creative ideas that threaten their way of life already.
@@MikeSmith-mp7lf Well said. I was a GM tech and ASE master as well. I am retired now.
For sure, there is no replacement for real world hands-on experience. Theory is nothing more than brainstorming.
Kinda hard to knock this design coming from someone with his pedigree. He is taking a risk with his life but he's very respected in the industry. This video is totally a win for us hydrogen fans.
Mike Copeland is a GENIUS and with bollox the size of a planet to persevere and get the help of true professional engineers to make that Hydrogen powered truck.
And thanks to you for making it and posting it 👌👍👏
Hydrogen engine was invented in 1806... You are quite late to the party here...
Now that's awesome!
And this guy has definitely lived through the 60's and 70's, seen and driven muscle cars of that era. He's on board.
So cool.
I remember him from a C&D article on Lingenfelter LS engines in Corvettes. That was 30 years ago.
@@yasi4877I visited lingenfelter in Brighton Michigan at one of their shows, he was there I didn't get to say hi because he was very busy but he was a crowd favorite and acted very nice to everyone, truly a genius and a visionary of whare the future of lower emissions should look like practically, instead of some numbskulls in DC with their foreign bribes and laundering they're usually up to since they clearly think of the citizens as 2nd class.
@@ericsfishingadventures4433 Thanks for sharing.
This is the future. No more electric cars. We still get our engines burning water.
Yes sir
Rock N Roll!!!
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindenburg_disaster
@@JohnDoe-mx1sqso I guess you didn't listen to this video, especially at the end
@@MichaelHeal99 😂 yeah no explosions when a team of engineers are working on a one of unit. Let me know when your drunk neighbor is working on their hydrogen fueled Mustang
The man is a genuine treasure. Make sure someone is protecting him.
Hopefully he doesn't die from "food poisoning" like Myers did...
My thoughts exactly
I hope he has a buddy with all of the data and know how, just in case. I want this in a 55 Chevy pickup so bad. After I enjoyed it a bit, I’d sell it and build another one. If enough of us retired guys built one a year, we’d have classic hydrogen pickups out there for regular folks can see and get on board with. Electric is such a waste of everything. Gas hydrogen appears to be the fuel of the future. Looks like all he added was the tank and regulator. Can’t wait to see where this goes
@@dl7775 Electric vehicles have no soul or heartbeat. Not for me
Yeah a lot of car and oil companies would love to take this technology out
Someone give these men a medal and a seat at every cookout til the end of time.
This man is an encyclopedia. I learn a lot listening to him. Thanks
Don't forget to fact check.
I was camped next to Mike at LS Fest in Bowlingreen, he was a down to earth gentleman and would explain stuff in layman’s terms. He’s an amazing and talented man.
I’m a car guy and work in oil n gas, I’m glad that you guys have put so much effort into this. Absolutely amazing.
What they are not addressing is the clean source of hydrogen. It is very expensive to seperate the bond hydrogen has with many elements.If you are getting hydrogen from oil or other hydrocarbons it is defeating the purpose. You could make clean hydrogen from nuclear power or solar or even the wind, but it too is expensive.
@@jeeper2371I would in theory combine solar panels on the hood roof and doors or/and the alternator to a water tank that refills the hydrogen tank as you drive! Using the solar panels during the clear day drives and the alternator during the night or poor weather days! Writing this out brings me to the thisthought Essentially using this system in a boat we could power it forever ……now I want to purchase and convert an oil rig to offshore home become 100% off grid living
This is the most inportant work this Century 🎉
I want to see a Caravan trip around the Continent W VIPs to make it BIG. Several trucks and SUVs running on HHO Nitrogen modified engines. BEAUTIFUL
This is so much better than electric will ever be, engines will not disappear 🔥💪
Not only will they not go away, but the electric cars are short sighted. They will always be a major producer of pollution. Hydrogen on the other hand is actually clean. AND we get to keep our muscle! Great comment!
The fossil fool companies and EV companies will do everything in their power to fight Hydrogen vehicles until they realise oil will run out one day and EVs burn like fire crackers.
@@mathewmue5547 electric is a scam!!
We got plenty of water!!fact
@@junkyarddawgs9956 Until water goes up to $6 a gallon.
35+ yrs. ago I told a Lockheed Martin engineer that I thought hydrogen was THE fuel. His reply, YES! This report warms my heart.
they are 100yrs way beyond that now. Lockheed has zero gravity and free energy now.
I ate chicken from a circle K.
I’ve had a personal belief that hydrogen is the future for the past 20 years and still fervently believe it is, but always thought you would have to dilute it to make it work with existing technology - or “dirty it”, as I say. However, after seeing so much experimentation and testing on the subject with small engines, I started to realize we didn’t need to beef up engines to make it work. Pure hydrogen can run on any engine, provided enough supply and metered correctly for the application. This video makes me firmly believe we are on the way. It is going to happen someday. I just hope I am around to see it become the norm.
Had a truck that ran on LP or petrol. A little less power with LP, ran smooth and did not wash out the oil. That was back in 1981 I love it !! P.S. This was a tire repair truck so it was worked Very hard
Very impressive, this is one of the ways I think we should be going. Mike is my kind of maniac! It also makes the possibilities for hybrids more interesting.
Good anti knock rating, good hp. He really did change the world by making hydrogen interesting in a "standard" piston engine.
I cannot believe how easy it is to manipulate Americans, and how poorly informed the American people are. This engine is a nice hobby project, kudo's for the craftsmanship and all that, but that is as far as it will go for all the obvious reasons. Internal combustion engines are going to be illegal by law to sell after 2035 in Europe and the rest of the continents, regardless what fuel it burns. Those laws have already been passed. And nobody is going to reverse that.
The reason is simple. An internal combustion engine wastes at least 70% of its fuel to heat regardless what fuel it burns. And that is simply too much waste. It takes a lot of energy and money to produce that hydrogen. And producing all that hydrogen is only cost effective if it is used more efficiently.
And for car manufacturers it is not cost effective to keep developing two different technologies at the same time. And since ICE technology is going to be banned completely in Europe and the other continents it makes no sense to keep developing new ICE technology.
So that is the reason why ALL the major car manufacturers in the world, including the Americans, have already announced that they completely stopped investing in new ICE technology and they are only investing in new electric cars and trucks. And you can check this for yourself really easy.
@@insAneTunAthe world isn't going to quit using fuel by 2035 not a chance. The world's infrastructure is all geared for fuels not electric. Look at the US, The power grid can't even keep up as it is. I don't see any improvement in it yet 2035 will be here soon.
@@horsefly1020 You choose not to be willing to see the change, it is simple as that. But your choice has nothing to do with reality. There is plenty enough verifiable and credible information out there about this subject, but strangely enough people like you seem to think that if you just refuse to inform yourself that nothing is going to change. But the change is already happening all around you buddy, regardless if you are aware of it, or if you are willing to accept it.
Look, it is not my personal opinion, and it is most certainly not a contest, I am just notifying you about the facts. What I say are the verifiable facts from the car manufacturers themselves, the laws that have already been passed, investments that have already been made in electric car technology and infrastructure, and so forth. Those are very long term investments with very long term planning, and investment groups have already put far too much money into it, and we are talking about billions if not trillions of collars. And a couple of American displacement replacement deniers on social media are not going to flip all those investors and let them take their losses for their investments to which they are already committed. Here in Europe we are way ahead of the US when it comes to infrastructure and renewable energy sources.
But if what you are saying is true then it should be easy for you to show me a single announcement or publication from a credible source about a major car manufacturer who is going to produce cars for the mass of the people powered with ICE technology and with the objective to sell it after 2035.
I dare you !!! And I am not interested in your emotions or any other sort of misplaced bluff, because that is not going to change reality either. I am expecting an adult reaction and that you show me the facts from a credible source.
@@insAneTunA I guess you missed the part where GM recently announced spending millions of dollars in new manufacturing facilities for an all new Gen 6 small block v8 😂
@@Stapleton42 Here we go again. You are only reading half of their announcement. 🤣😂Allow me to school You. Despite its goal of an all battery electric vehicle portfolio by 2035, General Motors Co. announced Friday almost a billion dollars in new manufacturing investments-most of which is related to production of new internal combustion engines. (it is a manufacturing investment in their latest existing engines, not a new development investment for a new model engine, those are two completely different things)
For GM, the additional investments to bolster internal combustion engines are aimed at supporting its new line of pickup trucks and SUVs. Those are the automaker's main profitmakers, providing cash and capital the company can use to develop the company's future battery-electric cars and trucks.
So let me explain this. This is not a long term investment in new ICE development, but it is an investment in the production of existing old technology. Those are their latest engines with no new developments. Do you understand that? And the profit that they are going to make with those last ICE cars and trucks is going to be used to develop and produce and sell electric cars and trucks after 2035.
Like I said, they still have some existing projects running, and that will slowly fase out. After all they still have 12 years to go. And as soon as the kalender says that it is 2035 even GM will only sell electric cars and trucks. The engines that they are going to produce will be their last internal combustion engine. And the pickup trucks and SUV's are mainly sold in the US. It is not even meant for export.
You should not be doing this, I mean you should not try to fool or mislead other people or yourself by telling only half the story or by ignoring the full truth and most important facts of the story. Because stories like this can be verified in mere milliseconds. And now it looks as if you are making a fool out of yourself. And you can only blame yourself for that. Because it is most certainly not my intention. I just want to make sure that people are aware of the facts.
I like your history videos, stick with that. Talking about the future is not your strength.
Hydrogen as gasoline replacement has a very warm place in my heart....huge work done by that man...
Please explain why hydrogen is such a beautiful fuel ... Ever thought that you have to make it first and then have to store it without leakage (which is not easy as hydrogen is a very thin gas) .....
@@JongJande Sure it works great for a dozen vehicles. But it's impossible to scale up to thousands. The financial cost and physical resources to distribute that much H2 Fuel is just impossible. Awesome experiment, impossible as a product. This system is only 350 Bar, 700 Bar which is the required amount of fuel density to be viable. Is even more resources intensive and expensive. Soo yeah that is the technical reasoning for your argument.
@@Neojhun Good all the over paid oil companies can invest into it and make it all efficient. That excuse is shit!
@@hornpub6937 That's funny !!!! Do some research !!!!! It IS the oil companies that are investing into it - especially since the most viable source for hydrogen is methane. Shell did huge investments in hydrogen in Europe, and have since pulled out, since, as Neojhun said, the cost and resources to distribute and store that much hydrogen is economically unfeasible, not to mention the energy input required to "produce" the hydrogen in the first place makes it a "not so clean" fuel. As well, like biodeisel, hydrogen engines don't function well at all anywhere that gets close to or below freezing temps. Look at Germany. They invested billions of dollars into hydrogen tech, and have shut it all down due to the many problems with it.
What about platinum?
Simple explanation.
Life is simple, they make difficult. To make sure we buy from them. Again and again.
Thank for sharing for the future and the next generation.
Thank you for building this truck and sharing it with us on UA-cam. I believe that hydrogen is the way to go
This is where it's at. I hope the big money doesn't get in the way. I always enjoy your content, but this one is literally a life line for the hot rod community.
I cannot believe how easy it is to manipulate Americans, and how poorly informed the American people are. This engine is a nice hobby project, kudo's for the craftsmanship and all that, but that is as far as it will go for all the obvious reasons. Internal combustion engines are going to be illegal by law to sell after 2035 in Europe and the rest of the continents, regardless what fuel it burns. Those laws have already been passed. And nobody is going to reverse that.
The reason is simple. An internal combustion engine wastes at least 70% of its fuel to heat regardless what fuel it burns. And that is simply too much waste to use this type of inferior technology on a global scale as a drive train for road vehicles for the mass of the people. It takes a lot of energy and money to produce that hydrogen. And producing all that hydrogen is only cost effective if it is used more efficiently.
And for car manufacturers it is not cost effective to keep developing two different technologies at the same time. And since ICE technology is going to be banned completely in Europe and the other continents after the year 2035 it makes no sense to keep developing new ICE technology.
So that is the reason why ALL the major car manufacturers in the world, including the Americans, have already announced that they completely stopped investing in new ICE technology and they are only investing in new electric cars and trucks. And you can check this for yourself really easy.
@@insAneTunA until there are cleaner solutions for electricity, it's a big step sideways.
If this push for electric was about the environment, they would ask people to keep their current car as long as possible, or provide government programs to assist people in fixing a current car, instead of pushing the idea of buying something else entirely out of most people's budget. Would cut down on manufacturing emissions, toxic batteries being built, VOC from everything in the manufacturing process.
It makes you 100% dependent on having a clean, ethical source of materials to build them. And clean electricity.
They won't proceed with any nuclear power, because if clean, cheap electricity was available, they loose money.
Next steps they will stop making parts force people to "upgrade". And people fixing cars will be hunted down and jailed.
Auto racing will be outlawed while they fly away in private jets, producing more emissions than all the cars in the United States put together.
@@insAneTunA In the US, the courts just reversed the planned elimination of ICE in 2035. The latest infrastructure bill includes $7 billion to build 8 to 10 hydrogen manufacturing centers across the country. The goal being to reduce the cost of making hydrogen by 80%.
@@shophemi Here we go again. Not a single internal combustion engine is going to be sold in Europe and the rest of the world outside the US after 2035.
Hydrogen production facilities are being build across the globe in order to use that hydrogen for industrial purposes, and to reduce the emissions from road transportation.
And for cars with fuel cell technology hydrogen is a viable option as well, but then we are still talking about an electric motor as a drive train for the car or truck.
What you say is false and nonsense. No new car with ICE technology is going to be sold on European soil and the other continents after 2035. But I will give you a chance. Show me a single announcement or publication from a credible source about a major car manufacturer who said that they are going to develop and produce new cars with ICE technology with the purpose to sell it after 2035. It's just not happening. The opposite is true. All the manufacturers have already announced that they have already stopped with developing new ICE technology and new cars with ICE technology.
I dare you to come up with a credible and reliable source to prove me wrong!!!
@insAneTunA Europe is irrelevant to Americans. Your laws mean nothing to us. We are never going to give up our gas vehicles. You can try but we will literally go to war over this.
I remember awhile back a guy did this and was invited to dinner and was poisoned and past away!! Look over you shoulder sir great job
What an honor it would be to work with that old man. To build that truck in 10 weeks is an impressive display of engineering and use of years of acquired practical knowledge. Very impressive and shows that the internal combustion engine isn't done yet
This man needs to be protected as does everyone who worked on this. This tech needs to happen. This would save lots of cars trucks that are on the road today. Then would need more fuel stations also. The future is bright.
They gotta do it!
And coming out of the exhaust en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_dioxide_poisoning linked to pulmonary diseases such as obstructive lung disease, asthma, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and sometimes acute exacerbation of COPD
noun
the chemical element of atomic number 7, a colorless, odorless unreactive gas that forms about 78 percent of the earth's atmosphere. Liquid nitrogen (made by distilling liquid air) boils at 77.4 kelvins (−195.8°C) and is used as a coolant.
Not
Nitrogen dioxide is a chemical compound with the formula NO ₂. It is one of several nitrogen oxides. NO ₂ is an intermediate in the industrial synthesis of nitric acid, millions of tons of which are produced each year for use primarily in the production of fertilizers. At higher temperatures it is a reddish-brown gas.
@kylereese4822
IT'S ALREADY HAPPENING. look up plug power. I think they recently even tested an airplane with hydrogen, and they currently have thousands of fork lifts that run on hydrogen. They even made a hydrogen powered van years ago. cannot lie the truck in the video sounds really good!!
Thank you! For showing the actual sounds. Or playing… not sure how to word that but it was nice to get an understanding of the sound coming from that engine.
This is defiantly the route that motorsports should be going. Great video thanks for sharing.
Preferable to failing rockets
This team should be nominated for the Nobel Prize. This tech changes the world.
It's not the first hydrogen car. For some reason EVs are being pushed now.
hydrogen have been use for years and years. nothing new here.
@@1nicube the method of hydrogen propulsion is nothing new. Adapting that kit to a platform such as an LS motor is the fantastic part. The LS platform is readily available in rebuildable condition, as well as aftermarket short block. This tech is a game changer.
@@dudetheblessed2524 you need to answer dudtheblessed. Not my comment. You repeat my comment.
@@michiel5160true. They are pushing for more electric, but think if this was a viable option! Hydrogen propulsion emissions are VAPOR. Vapor makes clouds and return water back to the surface. Plus, if you can STILL turn 500hp and have it sound gnarly, even the old "gear heads" like me can get on board.
I worked for GM when Mike Copeland and Jon Moss were building what we called Top Secret project cars. I was fascinated by what Mike and Jon created.
I built some crazy stuff at GM.
@@546cowboy6because daddy government is forcing them to push electric cars that nobody wants
@@546cowboy6
Mary T. Barra’s legacy
@@546cowboy6to apease the far left government.
@@546cowboy6 Politics
The same " If it were easy, everyone would do it" Mike Copeland? That built an awesome LS1 S-10 ZR2 pick-up? Awesome guy.
The truck and the hydrogen engine are beautiful. Sounds great too. Modern submarines use a similar technology to generate oxygen for breathing. Congratulations on a job done very well !
I wasn't necessarily a fan of hydrogen due to the high pressure tank and the charge density loss, but the total package has some benefits.
-- The tank itself is probably not that difficult to move around, which qualifies as a maintenance safety benefit.
-- It's easier to deal with a hydrogen leak simply with adequate ventilation.
-- The fact that they're performing this way without cats is a benefit for longevity.
-- These folks knocked this project out of the park!
We use those similar tanks in every aircraft to hold oxygen… They are very safe.
Little different than propane power as far as fueling and fuel storage. I believe hydrogen takes more pressure.
A burning gas tank has nothing on a hydrogen tank explosion. There are hydrogen fuel cell vehicles all over the road just waiting to have a tank rupture. When discussing my concerns with a tank rupture, engineering assured me that all the fail safes would easily prevent any problems. Oops! Is all I can say about that (liability and lawyers).
@@Nopaants There's a tremendous amount of pressure energy in these hydrogen tanks and if they ever burst, it'll make a gas tank fire look like a toy. That said, these are very well-engineered tanks. Honestly, I think an EV fire is a worse event because it releases metallic particulate. As far as I'm concerned, even though Hydrogen to combustion isn't an efficient process, it has a portfolio of safety benefits that makes it a good option. I personally like DME or Methanol as the replacement for gasoline some day, but this hydrogen tech is decent.
@@greybone777 Hydrogen requires a tremendous amount of pressure. More than the cylinder in an engine. Personally, I like Methanol and Dimethyl Ether as the replacements for Gasoline. That said, this is a good performing system, so I'm not going to nit-pick it excessively.
I hate passing videos on to other people, but this is important. This is gonna be what our hot rods need to keep building the stuff us motorheads love. So I passed it on to my friends.
Thanks man!!
Thank you so much for the video.Is very interesting.
I'm glad that guy explained the difference between gas and liquid.Thank you
Glad I cam accross this video. That is some great work and more people need to see and hear about this as a whole.
Anyone who has the opportunity to work side by side with this gentleman, as he shares some of that silver hair wisdom, is an extremely blessed individual! The knowledge he’s gained and can share is invaluable!!!! Being one who’s been dismantling, comprehending, and rebuilding since age of 7; I humbly tip my hat to him😌TOO AWESOME!
I WOULD LOVE TO WORK ON THIS if you would, I have a 403 Olds engine i'd love to convert send me anything I'm a retired mechanical engineer full of ideas for this one Kemosabe🤔🤐😁!
That tank needs to be made to look like a giant duracel
😂
Here king, you dropped this 👑
Imagine using a real battery, how cool would that be
Yup..I was thinking that it should look like a big rectangular toolbox with leather straps & located at the cab end of the bed 👍👍
@@woodstockxx a rectangular pressure vessel?
Great engineering, took some good tinkering ti figure this. Way to go!
Another advantage I see is the fact that those 5000 mile oil changes could probably be extended to 25000 or more with this. Great video!
Depends on how hard you beat on it ...heat changes oil vis...
bro oil changes have nothing to do with fuel
@ethanstevens2754 why do we not change oil in transmissions, rear ends, and transfer cases every 5000 miles. Where dies the black in old oil come from. There is no carbon leftover in hydrogen. Not disputing you just asking question.
@@rogercook1737 you have a point but I barely trust anything oiling my engine past 5,000 miles
Propane fueled engines have a longer oil change interval than their gas counterparts. Fuel gets passed the rings and dirties the oil. Ever hear of wet stacking?
Hopefully this gets affordable in the next 10 years! I don’t wanna die before I have a 1000 hp twin turbo ls running on water!!!!!!!
I've been tinkering with hydrogen for a decade and your results blow me away. Hat's off to you my good man.. well done. You've put a smile on my face from ear to ear.
What is a LARGEST GREENHOUSE GAS - WATER VAPOR
10 TIMES more of it in the atmosphere than CO2
Guess what is causing FLOODS, TORNADOS HAL, CROP DAMAGE from all this EXCESSIVE RAIN. WATER VAPOR.
If we use the rational for cutting CARBON, how is WATER VAPOR the solution?
YEAAAA - Lets use COAL to increase the WATER VAPOR with 100 MILLION hydrogen cars spewing WATER VAPOR. Hope you can swim
Stupidest idea ever
For future reference, Mike did not commit suicide. 🤔
@@sog4646 Nah it won't be that given his age. More subtle.
"results blow me away". You being ironic here?
"Respect"-Highly Earned !!!! Incredible effort Guys.
Thank you for your work.
I was working on this same type of concept but couldn't devote my thinking to just this and it was necessary.
"You can't do that!" (build a truck that runs on hydrogen) "You can't, but I can." .......PRICELESS!!
History in the making is an absolute accurate way of describing this situation. Keep up this content and I hope that somewhere in a history book Your name will be recorded. Electric cars are neat but we need this technology.
If we are playing by the rules of environmental impact, hydrogen in a recipe engine is cleaner than electric when you factor in mining and component production. With solar panels, a compressor and and a "water cracker" means these aren't going to be profitable to dutch royal shell. Don't expect this to catch on even if by the facts it makes more sense.
@@realblakrawb it’s about control
History being rehashed is more accurate. The H2H was an experiment in exactly this 20 years ago...and it failed for the reasons I've posted elsewhere - energy in to energy out just won't cut it. It takes 50kWh of electricity to generate 8.4kWh at the wheels (not quite 14hp for an hour or 55hp for 15 minutes).
If we could produce hydrogen closer to the 33kWh of energy it can hold per kg *and* have some sort of combustion engine which is more than double what the theoretical "perfect" piston engine could ever be and it would start getting close to EV efficiency.
It's just not a viable option for most use cases. Old hotrods and maybe some racing? Potentially...but for short sprints like drag racing I forsee electric motors and lightweight capacitor banks.
@@94XJthey did say that this was for motorsports
Your comment makes no sense. EV will never be as fast as ICE.
Good video! I recognize Mike, as I used to work at GM as a designing engineer contactor in Advanced Vehicle Development. Lots of passionate and intelligent people throughout the auto industry like Mike.
I'm a Cryogenic trucker. I also am restoring a 1949 Chevy left to me by my father.
I`ve allways thought this was a great idea. Keep up the great work. Thank you.
Am I the only one that is pissed that this isn’t a regular thing?! Running a car on hydrogen has been something we’ve known of since the 80’s and yet electric cars filled with toxic/costly batteries is what we focus on and pushed as “the future”. I’m glad Toyota is at least making a push on it now. Hats off to these guys and the channel!
Thanks man!
Everyone has been working on hydrogen-powered vehicles since the 1980s.
The two reasons we have battery-powered EVs is harvesting hydrogen is very expensive & it costs more energy to harvest hydrogen than the hydrogen itself produces.
Think of it like this:
Option A: You can go into a bank and ask them to sell you a $5 note for $10, then you can take your new $5 to a store to buy stuff.
Option B: you skip the bank. You go straight to the store with your $10 and buy twice as much stuff while creating twice as much litter.
Which option are you going to pick?
@@GiantAsteroid-2024except you forgot batteries have to be produced and are expensive and than need to be recycled. There is a reason why EVs cost a lot more than ICE cars. According to newest studies after 200 000 KM Golf Diesel in its production and use produces less CO2 than ID 3.
The Olds dash looks great nice touch
this is the exact video that i was looking for for what im trying to do :D thank you!
Way back in 2003 Mazda built some Rotary RX8's with dual fuel with one being Hydrogen I believe they built 22 of them and sent them to Norway.. Hydrogen is without a doubt ..the most abundant , cleanest most versatile and easily to re-cycled fuel ..of the future...you guys did a Great job...Thanks for sharing the video..
Burning hydrogen actually cleans the atmosphere of other pollutants and obnoxious gases. As long as your engine isn't burning oil using hydrogen actually decreases pollution as its running. He was talking about NOX gases, those are likely from oil getting by the rings, OR ambient air being contaminated. Air quality has a lot to do with the burn. I really enjoyed experimenting with and using hydrogen
@@MadSceintist If only producing the hydrogen wasn't so ineffective.
@@Hyrppa95
Because everyone is going about it in the most inefficient way
Which is why the gov will never let us enjoy this in mass
We have a hydrogen bus in Canton, Ohio and I've driven behind it several times and am constantly amazed at the zero smell/emissions that come from it. Badassery I say !
You can't smell those buses because they are EVs! The big difference between that bus (and many like it across the country, particularly here in CA) and Mike's truck is like night & day though; hydrogen-powered public transportation buses are actually electric motor powered (think Tesla EVs) buses that use hydrogen fuel fed into a very expensive fuel cell stack (usually P.E.M. or Proton Exchange Membrane) converts it into electricity to power the electric motor(s). By contrast, Mike is directly fueling a “standard" (though high performance built) internal combustion engine in place of gasoline. Mike's method is not only much simpler but can also be employed much more affordably if that is the goal. Clearly, in Mike's case, performance was the goal and low emissions are a happy byproduct of his fuel choice. It's a win-win but VERY different from the buses that are essentially extremely expensive EVs that have highly complex systems (regenerative brakes), expensive components (electric motors & batteries), require a LOT of maintenance, and the fuel cells use costly rare metals (ie. Platinum) that also wear out and the stack has to be rebuilt fairly often, and of course you have to mine the earth for a LOT of the things that go on to making the components. They are an excellent way to waste taxpayer money while acting/feeling like they're “helping the planet". Meanwhile, Mike's super sweet hotrod actually DOES benefit the planet by not only being able to use a clean fuel source but also by actively cleaning the air that it pulls into the motor and outputting even cleaner air out the tailpipe! 👍🏻
Well done creating that project it's spectacular, you're after saving the world, I am delighted to see it! 🙏🍻
the only thing i would do is paint the tank white to reduce the heating from the sun. more heat makes more pressure and the idea is to maintain the same pressures at all times. wow man great job thanks for everything your doing this will help the entire world as others will now get onboard because of you personally! you are a inspiration to us all!
Beautiful truck and it has 3 pedals. Hydrogen power is pretty cool.
Mike Copeland is a super smart dude! I've enjoyed learning from him and working for him for the past 5 to 6 months. I'd have the opportunity of driving this truck, and the hydrogen engine is just a small piece to the puzzle of this trucks beauty!
I wanna know how much it would cost to convert.
@@antiherocallofduty that's something they are working on right now. They are manufacturing retrofit kits, but I believe the first ones are going to truck fleets and certain segments of motorsports.
How long before we can get one?
@@badboy63079136 great question. I know he is working with Bosch on timelines, as that's who is manufacturing the injectors and computers. Should be some more news by the end of the year.
Extremely informative!!!! I am super impressed with what they have accomplished!!! I am a huge NASCAR fan and have seen many of your previous videos and they were great, but this one seems more important. Thank you for making the video and sharing it with all of us. I HATE the idea of being forced into EV's/Green New Deal bullshit. On the other hand, this is something that I could truly get behind. KUDOS to everyone involved!!!
Thank you Daniel!
This "informative" video forgot to mention how far you can go with that tank and how much it costs... I wonder why...
Really excited to see more examples of this! Curious about long term use, cost of fuel and how it'll perform in the extreme cold.
We need more people, like these folks, using their intelligence to figure out how to do things rather than using it to figure out how it won't work! Make solutions not problems.
We have. They just kill them. ( I know of 3 cars that worked on water over the years.- all dead) We live in a slight of hand world fueled by GREED🤙
Man I've commented on several of your videos saying how great they are and this is just another example of how hard you two work just because you want to show us your passion, which we all share. It kinda feels like you're reading our minds to find out what we like and then you deliver so thank you! Also, the guy in the black shirt reminds me of the Herminator!!!
Thanks man!! We appreciate you
I first read about a hydrogen engine in a newspaper article back around 1976 or 1977 in which they talked about some postal vehicles fitted to run on hydrogen. The article didn't elaborate much beyond that other than the volatility of hydrogen. The article said the hydrogen was stored in a tank using metal alloy particles under pressure forming a compound & they used heat from the exhaust to release the hydrogen from the compound called "hydrides", to fuel the engine. They said the system was safer than gasoline storage & that they built a fire under a hydride tank & fired armor piercing bullets into it & it would not explode. I am very encouraged by your video. Keep up the good work.
They will just overcharge for the tech or fuel just to stop anyone that can't do it for themselves... Good on you guys for your ingenuity 👏
Hydrogen for autos was brought to my attention by a guy rhat dated my sister-in-law. He was an engineer at Winnebago Industries (motor home manufacterer) . The CEO was looking into Hydrogen powe in mid-seventies. Paint color and scheme on #42 is outstanding
Thanks Mitchell and Logan.
Thanks man!!
My shop teacher in 1983 tried to perfect Hydrogen, A genius in his time Finally 40 years later it's a reality, I Hope he is still around to see it, Finally, Thanks Once again you turned over another Rock that most do not know about.
Diversified creations was down the road from my house and man they have made some really cool things
They make some good stuff, did a head swap on srt and picked up over 100 at the wheels
This guy is an encyclopedia. He has a detailed answer for everything.
Stapleton42 - Awesome stuff - Great to see Lake Speed again. Enjoyed your time in New Zealand. So good to see this progress. I recently watched in Australia ammonia being transferred to hydrogen on the fly! This is the next stage. Pressure then is around 150psi (think propane). Then you can use our flat conformable GM Holden approved propane alumimium fuel cell tank! Remember the Foose Mothers Propane Chevelle that had our tank installed. Now you have filling time of gasoline, including the range, packaging and low pressure. The future is very bright indeed for us hot rodders.
So badass! Great work guys this proof of concept is amazing. Mr. Toyoda had the right mindset all along but some people accused him of being anti-BEV. Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe, it’s zero emission, you can derive it from other elements unlike BEVs that still require mining, etc. and not to mention complications in disposing the packs. BEVs still can be purposed in other applications, just not sustainable in private and public transportation. Oh and to hell with an E-Ray, I want an H-Ray 😂
You do know that hydrogen isn't something you can just scoop out of thin air and you actually need to make it? Right?
It's very simple to make and store, you can do it in bulk at home for zero overhead and run your car?
@@xL33CHx false.
You clearly don't know what hydrogen is if you think you can "derive it from other elements." Hydrogen is an element. You don't just create it... you separate it from other compounds, like water, or hydrocarbons.
EV Battery packs are already being recycled...
You are completely clueless.
That 3100 is one gorgeous piece of machinery, amazing job to everyone involved with the project; awesome video! 😁👍
Thanks man!
Brother this video is gonna be super interesting. I’ve often wondered if anyone out there was working on hydrogen powered hot rods.
This is gonna be huge
@@dylanzrim3635 I totally agree.
@@jdshanahan4215 Can you elaborate why
Fantastic video and Truck💯👍👍
I remember watching Stanley Meyer's on the news each night as he made his way cross country with his hydrogen/water powered car in the 1980's then nothing, It's good to know someone has picked this up and is doing something about a true and viable alternative energy source.
Stanley Meyer was a fraud though. His car didn't actually run in water like he said. You'd need hydrolysis more than 100% efficient for that to work, and that's just physically impossible.
Thank you for doing this ! I can keep my LSA for the rest of my life if this is put into mass production
I remember a lot of talk back in the nineties about alternative fuels. I’m glad these guys are pursuing hydrogen as a fuel. I hope they are successful in proving that it’s realistic. Awesome stuff!!
What is a LARGEST GREENHOUSE GAS - WATER VAPOR
10 TIMES more of it in the atmosphere than CO2
Guess what is causing FLOODS, TORNADOS HAL, CROP DAMAGE from all this EXCESSIVE RAIN. WATER VAPOR.
If we use the rational for cutting CARBON, how is WATER VAPOR the solution?
YEAAAA - Lets use COAL to increase the WATER VAPOR with 100 MILLION hydrogen cars spewing WATER VAPOR. Hope you can swim
Stupidest idea ever
Quite a few others don't survive very long after broadcasting this hydrogen solution.
An ex copy in New York had one and did a few videos and just like many of them, unexpected death. It was probably 5 years ago.
I do hope the best these two guys!
And hope this finally gets pushed through to the main stream.
Oil companies do not like this being known.
Thumbs up on the video.
I bet oil companies like the idea of adding hydrogen to existing gas stations than electric cars that use no gas or engine oil at all.
They like it better than EV
The ones who really hate it are the EV battery producers = China and all their bought off politicians.
@@Stapleton42absolutely. Undeniable.
It's not just big oil but they will be blamed
Does anyone have info or a video about the hydrogen powered Buick built at the university of New Mexico in 1974?
This is very interesting. Thank you for posting it. I enjoyed it very much new subscriber from Stuttgart Arkansas
Thank goodness it sounds like an actual truck. I'm in
I am ready to retrofit my classic car in the future when this hit the market!
Now, THIS is a restomod!! What a beautiful paint job! The entire truck is pristine; if you're going to restomod a vehicle, you might as well go all the way.
It still produces NOx gasses... fuel cell seems like the best method overall, but how do you get the temperatures down low enough that you no longer heat the nitrogen to the point of creating oxides?
I came here after watching a 2600HP viper video…. Everything seems slow now, 😅 this is such an amazing accomplishment! Awesome work!
thanks man!
This is amazing. Guys like this that are open minded to new things but still love the old things are the real pioneers that are gonna keep this passion of ours alive as times change. Those of us that hate boring cars and love hot rodding are gonna have to figure some of these things and keep our minds open to new things. Hats off to you guys.
This is the real future! So exciting to see it in action!
The looks 👍👍👍👍👍engine 10+ the sound is amazing but you miss the explosion when the engine is low rpm so is better amazing job men 👍👍👍
You'll eventually get significant range improvements when fuel injectors are perfected for hydrogen, not to mention gains in chilling that fuel tank by say 10%, such that the fuel is not liquid, but a denser gas.
Outstanding. Sad its not getting more coverage! Am very excited for the future with old school V8s running around!
It is not getting coverage because it will fail, not technically, but economically. Fossil fuel hydrogen is $15 a gallon. Green hydrogen, even more expensive. BM W did it already and didn't continue for good reason.
@@LawrenceRhodes Every new tech is expensive to R&D, but the costs eventually moderate as the technology comes fully online, new innovations are made, etc.
@@LawrenceRhodesIt's because the industry has a massive conflict of interest adopting something so much better. Not because it will fail. You're proclaiming failure of something completely out of context of the development cycle.
@mdemers767 Not in this case. Due to hydrogen inefficiency and high cost, which only a few gearheads want to pay, it will never be accepted by the public. It costs pennies per mile in a Tesla. Do the math yourself. There's a reason you can get an off lease FCV for $15k with a $15k fuel card. Burning it in ICE at 10 mpg. Financial suicide. It seems you haven't done the math. The only way it even half assidly will work is if you have abundant hydrogen at low cost. Not in the cards. I would look to ethanol for fun race days.
It's not an "old school v8" by any stretch of the imagination.... and that future will never exist... because a carbureted v8 (old school) cannot run on hydrogen. Guy basically said as much in the video when he mentioned someone asking him if he could introduce hydrogen into the intake on one... it doesn't work that way.
I watched the hydrogen breakthroughs videos. It turns out that producing hydrogen by burning natural gas IN THE ABSENCE of oxygen with plasma creates carbon as a solid! Think pencil lead! No CO2! Great truck build! Congratulations gentlemen!
How much electricity does it take to make enough hydrogen to drive 1 mile?
How much does that compare to moving a common EV 1 mile?
Because if the price isn't right, it'll never happen.
it definitely produces CO2.
Fantastic, this been talked about forever, knew somebody would eventually figure it out. This is what world needs, not electric. Conrsts but what would expect, knew Lingenfelter so tech superiority is expected, seen in your background. Big achievement
90 mile range by paying 90 bucks for it on top of crap ton of maintenance expenses? Yea, this is exactly what world needs...
And just FYI this video showed exactly zero new things... There is nothing special in it, all this technology existed for decades, heck HICE engine was invented in 1806...
I'm glad you asked this question about filling stations at home 24:17 This will be a game changer when this happens. If I can refill 3 kilograms of H2 overnight, is that even doable from home? How much power would that draw? Could you "plug in" your garden hose or would you have to use natural gas? This is the future. I hope more people like Mike Copeland keep tinkering with this technology! Eventually we'll have a Mr. Fusion strapped to our DeLorean. Keep this content coming! ⚛
Need distilled water to generately it cleanly.
Home H2 chargers are pretty big right now, the size of a good sized dumpster… they are getting smaller.
Mike is a good guy he has been a big help to me over the years.
That's very cool Clay. Tear up the track in Sonoma today!
What do you think about the video?
Things like this need big names like @claymillican to help them get people informed and interested...and EXCITED!
@@rocsti5402all of Stapleton42 ‘s videos are good.
It amazes me how many people in these comments don’t know how prominent Mike is in the auto industry
This is the way forward for F1 racing and bring back the V10 and V12s
That’s a sweet truck , great idea and can’t wait to see more of it ! Keep safe , make multiple copy’s of your plans and hide them .
No one is there to off him... Relax.
Holy crap what a beast & on hydrogen safe set up. That's brilliant engineering guys...cheers from sth Australia 🇦🇺 👍
Very cool. Zero emissions with a nasty hp, hell yeah. This needs to get more attention.
Hi guys 👦 nice video 📹 and workmanship man that sounded Rad!!!
This one man can build such a well made machine that burns perfectly clean why in the hell aren't there production cars that do this??? Come on gm let's get it done
Because youtube makes everything look perfect, especially when you don't have to prove it... And I have bridge to sell...
Thanks man, there's a lot of misinformation out there about this fuel and there is a good reason for it.
I'm glad there are guys willing to experiment for themselves and not just simply accept what a corrupted system says can or can't be done.
I have always been interested in all types of flying, and most wheeled transportation. I'm 78 now, but back in 1976 I got my first radio controlled model airplane. It was piston engined and made an enjoyable amount of noise and smoke. But when I restarted my hobby in So California about 2010 the local flying club's airfield only allowed electric powered planes. Aww. I miss the sounds, but not the mess and hassle of tuning and cleaning the engines. Electrics are so much simpler, EXCEPT for the radio programming complexities. Well, by the sounds of the engine on this truck I hope this technology becomes available en-mass while I am alive and well, driving. On one hand I can get excited, but on the other expect probable difficulties in bringing this stuff to fruition. Good luck, and may God bless.
hello Mike, i remember the first hydrogen gas i used in my 1998 Buick Par Avenue. it was a regenerated unit that used K-potassium mixed with water, passing that was electrolysis to produce hydrogen. i took it to the smog inspection just for testing the result. the guy couldn't believe the exhaust gas NO2 was way below the required smog spec. anyway, there was no way the DMV will allow. matter factly it did boost couple mileage per gallon. i still have the kit for this contraption. great to know you have a real deal here. i'm waiting to buy or convert my truck to hydrogen once the price goes down some. ty, Bob