Great video, this is awesome. As a fellow 4th gen owner, I love seeing what you've done with it. Badass. These cars don't get enough respect and are big time slept on due to looks. I've owned my '02 Z28 for 20 years now and still love it to death, I've got it set up for the mountain roads/track with a full UMI/Viking set up and its ridiculously fun.
Thanks it's always fun to hear about other people enjoying these cars as much as I do mine. They definitely aren't just "big heavy muscle cars" in the handling department like a lot of people think they are.
You have Strano lowering springs, on the rears. Strano front spring rate is 550 in/lbs, rear spring rates are 150 in/lbs. The Bilsteins are ok, but those strings are usually paired with Koni Sports.
Wow. First of all you deserve more views, great vid. Second, when you talk about the car being a bit sketchy on the highway, is it a big difference from stock? Like, is it still drivable on the street? I am planning on keeping my car as a daily and still be able to use it at track events.
Thank you! It is a pretty big difference from stock, I would say it's doable but takes more mental energy to drive with how quick the steering is. If you are worried about this you could consider doing the "medium" angle setting. This will make the car drive much more like stock while still having enough steering angle to have fun with.
The mechanical engineering detail is great. Are there videos of the fabrication? What software is being used to illustrate the suspension, and the CAD work?
Ashlen used Solid Edge to both design the parts and illustrate them in this video. Unfortunately we did not record much of his fabrication process for these parts but he's already working on his next big suspension project and we are going to do a better job documenting the process next time!
We are considering making a production version at some point but are still gauging interest on it. If you are personally interested in a pre-production version like what I have on my car feel free to send me a message
@@shortgirllongcar oh I’m definitely interested, I just don’t think I could afford it right now. From what I’ve seen Viking is about the only company offering bolt in replacement coil overs for 4th gen.
Seems like a good bolt-in option to get more reasonable springrates. However we like that how you can adjust ride height and spring preload separately with the BCs along with them having more springrate options
Since the rear of the car feels pretty good already and it doesn't have a ton of suspension travel to make the Watts link really pay off we currently don't have any plans to try that out
Thanks! The lug nuts are nothing special, I think the brand was Circuit Performance off Amazon. They've held up decently though and were open ended which I needed for the ARP wheel studs
We will probably make a production version sometime in the future but it would be next year at the earliest. If you are interested in one before then you can feel free to message me and we can discuss it further
What you see in the video is a prototype version of the angle kit we sell at Octopus Autosport. We are out of stock right now but will have more early next year
We haven't made a production version of the coilover adapter yet but are looking to do that in the future. If you are interested in one before then you can feel free to message me and we can discuss it further
The link to our store is in the video description or if you search Octopus Autosport on Google it should come up. Our full angle kit is currently out of stock but we should have more ready to sell by next week.
Have you had any alignmnent issues since installing these control arms on the car since these cars are known to messing in there alignment due to the adjustment being a slide style and not a cam lobe style for the front suspension
We used to have this issue but don't with the current setup. When I had the Spohn lower control arms with metal sleeve spacers we would find those bolts slightly loose after drift events. Back then we welded washers to the subframe to keep them from moving around in the slots. We now have machined misalignment spacers and torque the bolts to 100 ft/lbs. Haven't seen them come loose with that setup even after several drift events.
@@shortgirllongcar and Ford this come included with the steering angle kit or is it something one would have to get from another source and if so what place would you get it from
Yes, we just added a listing for the spacers on our website so they can be purchased separately. We would be happy to add any other items people want to purchase separately on the site as well.
My daughter had an 01 ss, was recently stolen by street take over thieves, and wrecked. I bought that car new hahaha. Couldnt find another 01, original owner car with less then 55k on odo for under 20k haha. She couldn't afford a 2015 z28 that came up for sale. However she was able to buu a base model 6cyl, 2015 camaro original owner, stick shift not auto, with very high miles habahaha. Shes gotten zl1 and z28 body knock off parts, 6pt cadillac front brakes, dual 4pt rears L and R rear brakes. Its sitting with a few pieces of pvc for mock for interior cage shes going to tuck some parts as out of way as possible. Heart is a yanked 6.2L hellcat redeye motor. Custom dash cluster that loads a hellcat style banner she made on photoshop. Bride japanese seats. Shift knob from my wifes silvia s15 spec r, a titanium nismo knob. Everythings mocked or sitting. She hasnt drawn/designed her wheels yet. She is wrapping up a cummins swap nomad wagon that will haul her small rennovated airstream bambi, yamaha r1 or sportster to events.
Sorry to hear about the SS but at least it sounds like that led your daughter to take on a very unique project. Always nice to hear about other girls out there getting it done
Probably going to stay LS with this one but we have been wanting to get our hands on a LL8 engine for a while now... maybe that will be another project one day
As a Kenny slides fan also building a firebird for drifting I’m glad someone also took the leap and is using the f body’s platform for drifting
I have an 01 trans am and am thinking about making a drift car after seeing kenny slides.
How do you not have a ton of subscribers??? The narration, video editing, CAD and explanation??? Top notch!
I love all the tech talk in these videos. Please keep making stuff like this
Great video, this is awesome. As a fellow 4th gen owner, I love seeing what you've done with it. Badass. These cars don't get enough respect and are big time slept on due to looks. I've owned my '02 Z28 for 20 years now and still love it to death, I've got it set up for the mountain roads/track with a full UMI/Viking set up and its ridiculously fun.
Thanks it's always fun to hear about other people enjoying these cars as much as I do mine. They definitely aren't just "big heavy muscle cars" in the handling department like a lot of people think they are.
Holy shittt you’re a life saver!! I will definitely be buying that angle kit here in the next month or two!
Same!
Building a road car out of a '96 z28 convert, 383 (525 FW/HP) , working on suspension now, thanks for the video, learning quite bit...
I'd love to hear what suspension ideas you're considering if you're going for grip.
Excellent video, I'm thinking about building a 3rd gen drift Camaro and this was very informative.
thankful for this video currently building a 97 camaro with 5.3 and want to slide it so much useful info!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You have Strano lowering springs, on the rears. Strano front spring rate is 550 in/lbs, rear spring rates are 150 in/lbs. The Bilsteins are ok, but those strings are usually paired with Koni Sports.
Thanks for the info, good to know
BEAUTIFUL car! I'm biased but still, it's beautiful, keep it!!
you are doing gods work
This is super helpful, thanks!
much respect!
Wow. First of all you deserve more views, great vid. Second, when you talk about the car being a bit sketchy on the highway, is it a big difference from stock? Like, is it still drivable on the street? I am planning on keeping my car as a daily and still be able to use it at track events.
Thank you! It is a pretty big difference from stock, I would say it's doable but takes more mental energy to drive with how quick the steering is. If you are worried about this you could consider doing the "medium" angle setting. This will make the car drive much more like stock while still having enough steering angle to have fun with.
Freaking Awesome🔥🔥
The mechanical engineering detail is great. Are there videos of the fabrication? What software is being used to illustrate the suspension, and the CAD work?
Ashlen used Solid Edge to both design the parts and illustrate them in this video. Unfortunately we did not record much of his fabrication process for these parts but he's already working on his next big suspension project and we are going to do a better job documenting the process next time!
What kind of power steering pump did you use?
It is an electric power steering pump out of a Volvo. If you want to learn more the other video on this channel covers it in a lot more detail
How about a production version of the coilover adapter?
We are considering making a production version at some point but are still gauging interest on it. If you are personally interested in a pre-production version like what I have on my car feel free to send me a message
@@shortgirllongcar oh I’m definitely interested, I just don’t think I could afford it right now.
From what I’ve seen Viking is about the only company offering bolt in replacement coil overs for 4th gen.
@@shortgirllongcar I would 100 percent buy it if you make it
Look into umis road race and auto x coilovers they have a 600lb 200lb set and a 850 275lb set
Seems like a good bolt-in option to get more reasonable springrates. However we like that how you can adjust ride height and spring preload separately with the BCs along with them having more springrate options
Did you have to upgrade your alternator to power everything correctly?
No my car still has the stock alternator and haven't had any issues with that setup
YES omg
These dont all come with oil baffles in oil pan? I have 97 lt1 does anyone know if stock pan does
You ever think about putting a Watts rear suspension setup on it
Since the rear of the car feels pretty good already and it doesn't have a ton of suspension travel to make the Watts link really pay off we currently don't have any plans to try that out
what a gamer
awesome video i am hoping to drift my v6 at some point. what lug nuts do you use?
Thanks! The lug nuts are nothing special, I think the brand was Circuit Performance off Amazon. They've held up decently though and were open ended which I needed for the ARP wheel studs
@@shortgirllongcar follow up question. Do you plan on releasing the coil over conversation plate?
We will probably make a production version sometime in the future but it would be next year at the earliest. If you are interested in one before then you can feel free to message me and we can discuss it further
I'm in the process of setting up one of my 4th gens up from drifting. Who did the angle kit
What you see in the video is a prototype version of the angle kit we sell at Octopus Autosport. We are out of stock right now but will have more early next year
Where can i get a conversation kit to intall the bc coilovers
We haven't made a production version of the coilover adapter yet but are looking to do that in the future. If you are interested in one before then you can feel free to message me and we can discuss it further
I want 1 of those kits for my camaro, how do I buy 1.
The link to our store is in the video description or if you search Octopus Autosport on Google it should come up. Our full angle kit is currently out of stock but we should have more ready to sell by next week.
🙏🏼🙏🏼
Its so awesome seeing a catfish get sideways in the current year
Have you had any alignmnent issues since installing these control arms on the car since these cars are known to messing in there alignment due to the adjustment being a slide style and not a cam lobe style for the front suspension
We used to have this issue but don't with the current setup. When I had the Spohn lower control arms with metal sleeve spacers we would find those bolts slightly loose after drift events. Back then we welded washers to the subframe to keep them from moving around in the slots. We now have machined misalignment spacers and torque the bolts to 100 ft/lbs. Haven't seen them come loose with that setup even after several drift events.
@@shortgirllongcar and Ford this come included with the steering angle kit or is it something one would have to get from another source and if so what place would you get it from
We include misalignment spacers with our lower control arms. We could also sell the spacers separately if you are interested
@@shortgirllongcar highly and all of this is located on your website correct
Yes, we just added a listing for the spacers on our website so they can be purchased separately. We would be happy to add any other items people want to purchase separately on the site as well.
What happened to kenny slides? He just disappeared 😕
I was wondering the same thing when I made this video. Been 2 years since he's posted on his channel...
you sound just like Pam from the Office!!!
I just started rewatching The Office last week so that comment could not have come at a better time lol
I rarely see any 4th Camaro here in the North East. Today I learned drifting is flipping expensive.
It is definitely not cheap even at the grassroots level
My daughter had an 01 ss, was recently stolen by street take over thieves, and wrecked.
I bought that car new hahaha. Couldnt find another 01, original owner car with less then 55k on odo for under 20k haha. She couldn't afford a 2015 z28 that came up for sale. However she was able to buu a base model 6cyl, 2015 camaro original owner, stick shift not auto, with very high miles habahaha. Shes gotten zl1 and z28 body knock off parts, 6pt cadillac front brakes, dual 4pt rears L and R rear brakes. Its sitting with a few pieces of pvc for mock for interior cage shes going to tuck some parts as out of way as possible. Heart is a yanked 6.2L hellcat redeye motor. Custom dash cluster that loads a hellcat style banner she made on photoshop. Bride japanese seats. Shift knob from my wifes silvia s15 spec r, a titanium nismo knob. Everythings mocked or sitting. She hasnt drawn/designed her wheels yet. She is wrapping up a cummins swap nomad wagon that will haul her small rennovated airstream bambi, yamaha r1 or sportster to events.
Sorry to hear about the SS but at least it sounds like that led your daughter to take on a very unique project. Always nice to hear about other girls out there getting it done
$4k lol. I can't even find a rust bucket lt1 that runs for less than $5k
It was a hot deal even for back then. I'm glad I jumped on it when I did
When you can drift and M114 A1E1 get back to me, I was drifting them in 1972.
Where is your videos? Just a spoof with no proof..
After it blows up please build it into an American supra ....big turbo LL8 swap ❤❤
Probably going to stay LS with this one but we have been wanting to get our hands on a LL8 engine for a while now... maybe that will be another project one day