@@duanscott2490 You can subscribe to the Smithsonian Channel on line. I did, and they have so many different documentaries. Their docs are very good and of course full-length!
From Wikipedia: Pearl fishing in Panama 1864 Kroehl became chief engineer and shareholder of the Pacific Pearl Company. He built the Sub Marine Explorer in 1865. He successfully tested his craft in May 1866 at the Brooklyn Navy Yard. Later, in March 1867, he, with his crew and submarine, shipped out to Panama. He supervised its transport by rail once at Aspinwall (now Colón), and the vessel’s reassembly at the Pacific side of the country. Kroehl died on September 9, 1867 in Panama City, Panama, United States of Colombia, with death being attributed to "fever," and was buried there.[8] It has been speculated that he died of decompression sickness, during experimental dives with the Sub Marine Explorer. However, the symptoms of decompression sickness do not match that of malaria[9] His widow, Sophia, argued that his death was from service-related malaria, citing witnesses who knew him during the Vicksburg campaign as well as medical statements.
any idea about the propulsion? are you familiar with the Fenian Ram / Holland boat #2 1881 ? and Holland boat #1 1875? Both were powered by a Brayton internal combustion engine. If you are curious about the engine I have some video and links on my channel.
Thanks for the information. I was wondering how it got on the pacific side of Panama. Figured it was maybe towed since the Panama Canal did not exist at that time but that would be a long way around South America thru dangerous waters disassembly and reassembly makes more sense. I wonder if it was abandoned and set adrift after he died and no one knew what to do with that thing.
Jim told this story at New Jersey Historical Divers Association Symposium at Infoage in Wall New Jersey several years ago. Along with his dives on the Titanic. His is one of the nices guys you would ever want to meet. It was a great privilege to meet this great man.
This sub was used for pearl diving since the Civil War ended before it could be used there. It was abandoned because the crews that used the sub became sick and died soon after it was used for pearl diving. Unfortunately, they were victims of the bends which had not been discovered yet.
@Jake Jordan It is true. I have been fascinated with Civil War Subs and there were a lot more than most people realize. You can find this in Wikipedia about the Sub Marine Explorer "After construction, the Sub Marine Explorer was partially disassembled and transported to Panama in December 1866, where she was reassembled to harvest oysters and pearls in the Pearl Islands. Experimental dives with the Sub Marine Explorer in the Bay of Panama ended in September 1867 when Kroehl died of "fever". The craft languished on the beach until 1869, when a new engineer and crew took it to the Pearl Islands to harvest oyster shells and pearls. The 1869 dives, with known depths and dive profiles that would have inevitably led to decompression sickness, resulted in the entire crew succumbing to what was described as "fever". Because of this, the craft was laid up in a cove on the shores of the island of San Telmo in the Pearl Islands."
A most interesting discovery... I arrived in the western Pacific in early 1964 less than 20 years after the end of wwII. At that time it was common to find miniature Japanese subs. Many US bases had recovered ones on display in front of headquarters. I await the explanation of the mystery in this story.
Sub Marine Explorer is a submersible built between 1863 and 1866 by Julius H. Kroehl and Ariel Patterson in Brooklyn, New York for the Pacific Pearl Company. It was hand powered and had an interconnected system of a high-pressure air chamber or compartment, a pressurized working chamber for the crew, and water ballast tanks. Problems with decompression sickness and overfishing of the pearl beds led to the abandonment of Sub Marine Explorer in Panama in 1869 despite publicized plans to shift the craft to the pearl beds of Baja California.
uhfnutbar1. Correct. Kroehl was duplicating and building on work done by Hunley and Dixon (1861-1863). It is nearly identical to the Hunley prototype he abandoned in Louisiana as they had to move naval research to Mobile Alabama in 1862 with the fall of New Orleans. The northern engineers never got to see the last Hunley model, which is much more hydronamic, so they stuck with the old teardrop design and the Davids of the Confederacy. Mobile AL naval and war college secret service developed land mines, more modern sea mines (torpedoes in their language) timed detonation devices, electrical detonation devices, submarines, etc...
Three minutes of mysterious wonderment scored with tense music, asking questions which probably have actual answers but cannot be uttered here, raises yet more questions - none of which possessing the answer, "Yes, I WILL subscribe to the Smithsonian Channel..."
“Typical American, complaints”, about America, while enjoying American technology and names. “ Charlie brown”, that’s an American cartoon, like your comment.
CSS Hunley was a submarine that attacked and sank a Union warship in the Civil War. she definitely predates this thing as the world's first successful submarine.
@@525Lines I see that you understand the difference. It's true what you say. Wasn't the USS Skipjack the first true submarine that was not a surface boat the could dive?
Experimental submarine in 1866. Kroel was a genius. Consider that regardless of the failures experienced by him and others, persistent effort led to the invention of not just a submersible boat, but to a true submarine capable of remaining submerged limited only by the need to surface for replenishing sustenance for the crew. And also capable of devastating destruction. 😲
It was probably the first submarine ever used to ferry drugs from Latin America to the USA, but it failed and got stranded off that island in1902, lol.
I'm sure I have seen another video on UA-cam about this sub . If I'm right it had a hatch on the bottom that could be opened when on the bottom , for collecting something like pearls .
I found a submarine 1967 (give or take) near North Berwick UK. It was lying unattended right up on dry land away around the coast off the beaten track . It must've broken its tow on the way to the breakers. It was sitting with a slight lean. It had a ladder up the port stern quarter. It looked really tall and thin, to my crazy kid eyes I was sure it would tip over if I climbed up. When we came back on holiday the following year it was gone. Of course nobody believed me. I've always wondered if I could've claimed it as salvage. My own sub.
@@norml.hugh-mann Yes indeed. I've beaten myself up a few times for being so timid, although I was only 10 years old -give or take. Had my pals been there....what larks ! I thought it would be lying there for all time. -carrying a camera then wasn't as common as it is now. One thing that stuck in my mind was the ladder. All the way up was covered in wet green seaweed until the last 3 or 4 rungs which were clean.That should've told me the sub had only recently arrived. It rained all the next day, so me and my sister (who ordinarily accompanied me everywhere) went to the movies. After "DR WHO and the DALEKS" or "MARY POPPINS", I forgot all about the sub. One of these days I might get around to contacting the ship-breakers further up the River Forth from North Berwick, it's bound to have been going to one of them. -Although there have been several subs lost in the Forth near the Bass Rock: but because of the ladder being free of seaweed at the top, it couldn't have been one of those.
BINGO(CSS Hunley 1863)! More and more journalistic "efforts" of today's journalism is obvious VERY poor, BUT then again this might just be a case of some unscrupulous people(Typical Journalist of the last 20 years) at the Smithsonian who understand what "Click Bait" is $$$$$$$$$$
Hey! That is a serving Canadian sub!! No sign of the crew? Bob tends to wander off to the local massage parlor to relax and have a happy ending...he'll be back. I'm just glad that 50% of the RCN's submarine fleet has been located.
unionrdr I agree, but at the end they bring up that no one knows how it got there. It would be very heavy and take too long and too much fuel to drive it there. Until they can confirm, no one will drop that cash to move it.
WizzleThump uhh, so we can build Stonehenge, The Pyramids, The World Trade Center, build a Space Station, put a man on the moon... But we can't move a 1 man submarine roughly the size of a van??? Its not 10,000 BC, lol. Did you think your comment through? If anything its a lack of knowledge and/or interest.
Clifton Wink Can you not read? I said no one will pay to move it, not that it can't be moved. Nice one hot shot. And if you were talking about getting it there, not back, I never said it was impossible to get it there, just no way it drove there itself.
+Acc0rd79 Yup, that's what happened I found him as a castaway and we traveled the solar system exploring. He has since retired and is living in New Jersey.
No it was God who took it there in case he decided to have another flood and needed an ark for Jesus to save some cows so that once the flood was over they could sacrifice the animals and burn the skin and fat so God could enjoy the sweet savour of burning carcasses... "Christianity" LOL
Neither the Turtle or the Hunley were successful designs in that neither were designed to submerge fully and then resurface. Both simply relied on neutral buoyancy to maintain a low surface silhouette.
@@dfledermaus Correct. They weren't even really even submersible boats yet. But the designs were definitely visionary. Everything about submarines evolved from those basic, primitive working prototypes. And led to the incredible underwater machines that exist today. Amazing technology. 👍🏻🤤😲
@@dfledermaus Actually, that is not true about the Hunley. When it was recovered they discovered that the vessel had advanced ballast tank systems and other devices which would be incorporated into later designs. The vessel could submerge completely. In fact, the original attack concept was to dive below the enemy vessel towing a explosive mine device. This attack method was discarded in favor of the spar torpedo which had been successfully used by the semi-submersible David vessels.
Können Sie empfehlen Medikamente für Furz und Durchfall? Ich Furz wie eine große Trompete. Vollen Klang, wie ein Kaiser Furz. Mein Durchfall fließt wie ein Fluss.
@Elegant Fowl thos are constantly pressurized and not leaking. I was just using the K-129 situation where the U.S tried to raise a sunken soviet sub that broke in half when they tried to raise it with a cradle and said it had become so fragile after just 3 weeks there was basically no hope to recover it in one piece after the 6 years it took. That was also at the bottom of the ocean but it was built with 1950s technology not 1910s
@@laa0fa502 .... I think you must have misunderstood what you read because submarine thickness steel does not rot/rust or become de-naturized in 3 weeks. I know they had to cut the nose off the Kursk to raise it, but the reason they cannot raise a 3 week old wreck, is the same reason they could not raise that wreck 2 minutes after it sank, and not because some part of the hull had degraded over a 3 week period. Even human bodies are usually raised intact after 3 weeks in the water...
It wasn't the first ever submarine. Cornelius Jacobszoon Drebbel made the first ever moving submarine with several peddles on both sides and a wooden hull
Hate to burst your bubble but CSA Hunley was 2 years before this sub and it also sank USS Housatoni. And in 1776 the Turtle did attempt to sink British ships in New York Harbor.
there is a wreck of a Japanese sub off the Oregon coast. people say it can be seen from Cape Lookout. Apparently there is little known about it. i don't think outside of locals its not known about. The waters are too treacherous and close to the cliff line for any kind of exploration. That could make for an interesting documentary.
CoverFireSix the hl hunley was excavated from the sea bed off the coast of Charleston sc, and is now in a museum. if you're in the area, it's worth checking out. the story about Lt. Dixon is amazing.
Hunley's original prototype diving boat from 1861 New Orleans (later found in Lake Ponchartrain) is shaped nearly the same as this. That boat is on display downtown at the Cabildo. After the union captured new Orleans, the research went to Mobile, AL (a city that didn't fall until a week after Lee surrendered) and the Park and Lyons shops. They built another vessel for testing in the Gulf and lower part of Mobile Bay, The American Diver. It was lost there and never recovered. It was an intermediate design. The final design was railroaded to Charleston SC with Lt George Dixon (an engineer with the 21st Ala) and a junior Lt with the regiment originally from England, along with Hunley, the primary designer. That ship sank there twice. Once recovered with Huntley and the test crew drowned. Once more after successfully sinking the USS Housatanic. That is the boat on display today in Charleston Navy Yards. Hope this helps. Don't know about this Panama find. It is very similar to the 1861 model in New Orleans.
I love that ship! You know they built a replica of it, one can go inside and turn the hand crank to work the propeller. I would love to see both the wreckage and the replica one day.
+S Tho That sub is not the Hunley’s predecessor (I wouldn’t call it a prototype). The Pioneer was destroyed. It was found by Union forces soon after New Orleans fell. It was studied extensively on site then abandoned. It sat on the waters edge until 1868, when it was sold for scrap. The submarine you are referring to, which is roughly similar in shape, was a different submarine built around the same time. Unfortunately, that’s about all we know about it. No one knows who built it or what it’s history is. We may never know.
According to Wikipedia "Problems with decompression sickness and overfishing of the pearl beds led to the abandonment of Sub Marine Explorer in Panama in 1869"
Sub Marine Explorer is a submersible built between 1863 and 1866 by Julius H. Kroehl and Ariel Patterson in Brooklyn, New York for the Pacific Pearl Company. It was hand powered and had an interconnected system of a high-pressure air chamber or compartment, a pressurized working chamber for the crew, and water ballast tanks. Problems with decompression sickness and over fishing of the pearl beds led to the abandonment of Sub Marine Explorer in Panama in 1869 despite publicized plans to shift the craft to the pearl beds of Baja California.
uhfnutbar1 You are 100 percent correct. No one would build this death trap unless you could make a lot of money. At the time the idea of it was useless, until the military got involved.
In 1859 (5 years before) the Catalan engineer Narcís Monturiol had already invented his "Ictineu I", the first air-independent and combusition-engine submarine.
Yes, there was a Confederate submarine named the H.L. Hunley that sank the Union battleship USS Housatonic just outside of Charleston Harbor in 1864. Unfortunately the Hunley was too close to its victim and was therefore also sunk as well. However, there was a submarine used 89 years earlier against the British in the revolutionary War that was called the Turtle, but it was unsuccessful.
Couldn't have been German. It was actually an inhabited island with 7 people. Gilligan, the Skipper, the Millionaire and his wife, a movie star, the professor and Maryanne, here on Gilligan's island.
The question is? How did id get to the pacific? It must have gone through the panama canal circa 1914 by some method or another. However it was first tested in 1866 about 50 years before hand.
Kroehls remains have been repatriated to the US. There is news of an archeological survey of the submarine but no mention of it being preserved. This would be a tragedy. Further news anyone?
Somewhere in the world there is a complete video story about this submarine find. I know because I viewed it. I just can't remember where I saw it or when. UA-cam? History Channel? National Geographic? I think I saw it within the last year. Maybe someone can do some research and find it ... and come back here and give us the particulars.
It does look like an late 19th century ship. Look at the riveted steel plate design. In WW II they were welding the plates together. This ship was made without welding. That's pre 20th century.
they used the same in civil war- there were several shapes used by north and south. some had drlls some placed mine-some were foot or hand peddles --one with the drill style was shaped like a top and after he,the inventor, got the drill stuck and bleww himself up to sick the Yankee blockade ship but it worked
The Smithsonian cliff hanger channel. All cliff hangers, all the time.
blue ballers
Most of their clips are a part of a longer documentary
@@rewing041 how do we find those full length documentaries?
@@karls5474 I think you're expected to subscribe to a pay service on cable tv or something like that.
@@duanscott2490 You can subscribe to the Smithsonian Channel on line. I did, and they have so many different documentaries. Their docs are very good and of course full-length!
From Wikipedia: Pearl fishing in Panama
1864 Kroehl became chief engineer and shareholder of the Pacific Pearl Company. He built the Sub Marine Explorer in 1865. He successfully tested his craft in May 1866 at the Brooklyn Navy Yard. Later, in March 1867, he, with his crew and submarine, shipped out to Panama. He supervised its transport by rail once at Aspinwall (now Colón), and the vessel’s reassembly at the Pacific side of the country.
Kroehl died on September 9, 1867 in Panama City, Panama, United States of Colombia, with death being attributed to "fever," and was buried there.[8] It has been speculated that he died of decompression sickness, during experimental dives with the Sub Marine Explorer. However, the symptoms of decompression sickness do not match that of malaria[9] His widow, Sophia, argued that his death was from service-related malaria, citing witnesses who knew him during the Vicksburg campaign as
well as medical statements.
Thanks!
Thank you.
any idea about the propulsion? are you familiar with the Fenian Ram / Holland boat #2 1881 ? and Holland boat #1 1875? Both were powered by a Brayton internal combustion engine. If you are curious about the engine I have some video and links on my channel.
Thanks for the information. I was wondering how it got on the pacific side of Panama. Figured it was maybe towed since the Panama Canal did not exist at that time but that would be a long way around South America thru dangerous waters disassembly and reassembly makes more sense. I wonder if it was abandoned and set adrift after he died and no one knew what to do with that thing.
John Hunt i
It's a shame this ship suffered such a Kroehl fate.
Good one! ;-)
That unexpected, unforgiving high tide. Drat!
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one
I wonder if any of them had a sinking feeling when embarking on that final trip.
I see what you did there
Its brighter here ... But we won't share the complete story for free
So true.
Indeed
Why should they?
@@henrikchristensen6314 for the sake of mankind's knowledge as a species?
@@volo870 Sry friend. It costs what it costs. No such thing as a free lunch. And the knowledge is there with the species.
Jim told this story at New Jersey Historical Divers Association Symposium at Infoage in Wall New Jersey several years ago. Along with his dives on the Titanic. His is one of the nices guys you would ever want to meet. It was a great privilege to meet this great man.
James Delgado is one of the nicest people I have ever met. Best regards Jim Dave of NJHDA.
Fascinating, but we need the rest of the story, this video is over 5 years old, surely something has happened with this. The public wants to know!
This sub was used for pearl diving since the Civil War ended before it could be used there. It was abandoned because the crews that used the sub became sick and died soon after it was used for pearl diving. Unfortunately, they were victims of the bends which had not been discovered yet.
@Jake Jordan It is true. I have been fascinated with Civil War Subs and there were a lot more than most people realize. You can find this in Wikipedia about the Sub Marine Explorer "After construction, the Sub Marine Explorer was partially disassembled and transported to Panama in December 1866, where she was reassembled to harvest oysters and pearls in the Pearl Islands. Experimental dives with the Sub Marine Explorer in the Bay of Panama ended in September 1867 when Kroehl died of "fever". The craft languished on the beach until 1869, when a new engineer and crew took it to the Pearl Islands to harvest oyster shells and pearls. The 1869 dives, with known depths and dive profiles that would have inevitably led to decompression sickness, resulted in the entire crew succumbing to what was described as "fever". Because of this, the craft was laid up in a cove on the shores of the island of San Telmo in the Pearl Islands."
Since this video was recorded, the sub has partly collapsed.
You gotta pay for that part lol.
"I knew that it was old" ....thanks for the heads up. Would've never figured that one out.
Brilliant deduction Watson!
Plot twist, it's a septic tank from a Chinese freighter
TrEVILlyan 95 Hahahaaa so funny
Lol
I wouldn't doubt it.
WRONG
Complete with briny logs 👍
I saw the sub, it has an interesting history.
A most interesting discovery... I arrived in the western Pacific in early 1964 less than 20 years after the end of wwII. At that time it was common to find miniature Japanese subs. Many US bases had recovered ones on display in front of headquarters. I await the explanation of the mystery in this story.
How old is his monitor? I bet that his monitor also an ancient and lost artifact.
Thang Tran Aboit 1999? Must be older than the sub.
Sub Marine Explorer is a submersible built between 1863 and 1866 by Julius H. Kroehl and Ariel Patterson in Brooklyn, New York for the Pacific Pearl Company. It was hand powered and had an interconnected system of a high-pressure air chamber or compartment, a pressurized working chamber for the crew, and water ballast tanks. Problems with decompression sickness and overfishing of the pearl beds led to the abandonment of Sub Marine Explorer in Panama in 1869 despite publicized plans to shift the craft to the pearl beds of Baja California.
IT IS "NOT" A "MONITOR"!!!!!! DUMB ASS!!!!!!!!
uhfnutbar1. Correct. Kroehl was duplicating and building on work done by Hunley and Dixon (1861-1863). It is nearly identical to the Hunley prototype he abandoned in Louisiana as they had to move naval research to Mobile Alabama in 1862 with the fall of New Orleans. The northern engineers never got to see the last Hunley model, which is much more hydronamic, so they stuck with the old teardrop design and the Davids of the Confederacy.
Mobile AL naval and war college secret service developed land mines, more modern sea mines (torpedoes in their language) timed detonation devices, electrical detonation devices, submarines, etc...
I'm watching this with my 15" CTX monitor.
These videos always leave us in the dark at the end
Three minutes of mysterious wonderment scored with tense music, asking questions which probably have actual answers but cannot be uttered here, raises yet more questions - none of which possessing the answer, "Yes, I WILL subscribe to the Smithsonian Channel..."
Typical American style documentary. Asks lots of questions, but tells you nothing.
Did it not just tell you pretty much all you needed to know about it?
At least it makes you curious so that you can google it for yourself :D
@@Grimmwoodskateboards It didn't give anything to prove the theories.
“Typical American, complaints”, about America, while enjoying American technology and names. “ Charlie brown”, that’s an American cartoon, like your comment.
@@JustSayinStuff Typical American, getting offended by a simple and harmless UA-cam comment.
CSS Hunley was a submarine that attacked and sank a Union warship in the Civil War. she definitely predates this thing as the world's first successful submarine.
Hunley now salvaged, of course.
I think there's a difference between a submersible and a true submarine. We've only had true submarine since maybe the 50s, I think.
@@525Lines Germany has had submarine since World War 1!
@@chevychase3103 Of course, but, by definition, a true submarine is a more recent invention. The subs of the world wars were more submersibles.
@@525Lines I see that you understand the difference. It's true what you say. Wasn't the USS Skipjack the first true submarine that was not a surface boat the could dive?
I love this channel..more questions than answers
Wow gaze upon the glory of the North Korean fleet!
Truthfully I didnt think it could make it this far east.
Violent Kisses Hitler's getting away from the war just stops to take a shit and get corn holed
Experimental submarine in 1866. Kroel was a genius. Consider that regardless of the failures experienced by him and others, persistent effort led to the invention of not just a submersible boat, but to a true submarine capable of remaining submerged limited only by the need to surface for replenishing sustenance for the crew. And also capable of devastating destruction. 😲
The CSA Hunley was the first successful sub in 1864 it sank the USS Housatonic in Charleston harbor.
It was the first one to sink a ship, but it turned out to be a kamikaze Sub.
Yep
Blowing your self up in an attack is a draw at best. Not the kind of success I want.
Drebbel 1620, check it out, real first dub
Did the narrator forget the CSS Hunley? THAT was the first successful sub, it worked perfectly and sank the enemy like designed.
That was the first attack sub, The Drebbel from 1620 was the real first sub
And that's it....just leave us hanging? Worst video ever.
LOL
This channel always does that...
Jordy Leffers im pretty sure this is a preview
It was probably the first submarine ever used to ferry drugs from Latin America to the USA, but it failed and got stranded off that island in1902, lol.
Probably part of a documentary that they're not willing to upload in full.
I'm sure I have seen another video on UA-cam about this sub . If I'm right it had a hatch on the bottom that could be opened when on the bottom , for collecting something like pearls .
I found a submarine 1967 (give or take) near North Berwick UK. It was lying unattended right up on dry land away around the coast off the beaten track . It must've broken its tow on the way to the breakers. It was sitting with a slight lean. It had a ladder up the port stern quarter. It looked really tall and thin, to my crazy kid eyes I was sure it would tip over if I climbed up. When we came back on holiday the following year it was gone. Of course nobody believed me. I've always wondered if I could've claimed it as salvage. My own sub.
I know you regret not exploring it more
@@norml.hugh-mann Yes indeed. I've beaten myself up a few times for being so timid, although I was only 10 years old -give or take. Had my pals been there....what larks !
I thought it would be lying there for all time. -carrying a camera then wasn't as common as it is now.
One thing that stuck in my mind was the ladder. All the way up was covered in wet green seaweed until the last 3 or 4 rungs which were clean.That should've told me the sub had only recently arrived.
It rained all the next day, so me and my sister (who ordinarily accompanied me everywhere) went to the movies. After "DR WHO and the DALEKS" or "MARY POPPINS", I forgot all about the sub.
One of these days I might get around to contacting the ship-breakers further up the River Forth from North Berwick, it's bound to have been going to one of them. -Although there have been several subs lost in the Forth near the Bass Rock: but because of the ladder being free of seaweed at the top, it couldn't have been one of those.
Does anybody know how I can be able to watch the rest of the show ???
I hate it when they leave you hanging like this!!
“Its just an old crapper tank people”
I got the poo on me!💩
Please do a full documentary on this submarine and its history
So what about the CSS Hunley? It was the same time period.
BINGO(CSS Hunley 1863)! More and more journalistic "efforts" of today's journalism is obvious VERY poor, BUT then again this might just be a case of some unscrupulous people(Typical Journalist of the last 20 years) at the Smithsonian who understand what "Click Bait" is $$$$$$$$$$
1620 Drebbel
Amazing find.
wow!
The little turtle was the worlds first submarine.
+Barry Sabahat yup and that was in 1776, long before this boat.
The Turtle sank into the Hudson.
@@slantsix6344 Correction the turtle was scuttled in the Hudson and is still lost to this day.
@@stephenpyx imagine finding it someday
@@mayanktripathi8726 Not a true sub. Semi-submersible at best.
Looks like a drug sub.
it's way too old for that
+Henrik Enemark yeah it does , the shape and size,, don't split hairs
It would work 🤨
Hey! That is a serving Canadian sub!! No sign of the crew?
Bob tends to wander off to the local massage parlor to relax and have a happy ending...he'll be back.
I'm just glad that 50% of the RCN's submarine fleet has been located.
I'm rather amazed that it's not in the Smithsonian already, being studied! It's too important to just let it lay there & rot.
unionrdr I agree, but at the end they bring up that no one knows how it got there. It would be very heavy and take too long and too much fuel to drive it there. Until they can confirm, no one will drop that cash to move it.
WizzleThump uhh, so we can build Stonehenge, The Pyramids, The World Trade Center, build a Space Station, put a man on the moon... But we can't move a 1 man submarine roughly the size of a van??? Its not 10,000 BC, lol. Did you think your comment through? If anything its a lack of knowledge and/or interest.
Clifton Wink Can you not read? I said no one will pay to move it, not that it can't be moved. Nice one hot shot. And if you were talking about getting it there, not back, I never said it was impossible to get it there, just no way it drove there itself.
+unionrdr Given how long its been there moving it would most likely destroy it.
+POVadventure not if it's reinforced on site first and maybe if it does end up restored someone might make a modern material replica
It's really a fuel tank from a gangalon space fighter from the out reaches of Dupratron.
Interesting to see how this plays out. What happened? Sub run away?
The History channel would probably suggest Aliens abducted him and took his ship to that island...."History Channel" lol.
+Acc0rd79 The animal planet would say Mermaids murdered him.
+Acc0rd79 Yup, that's what happened I found him as a castaway and we traveled the solar system exploring. He has since retired and is living in New Jersey.
No it was God who took it there in case he decided to have another flood and needed an ark for Jesus to save some cows so that once the flood was over they could sacrifice the animals and burn the skin and fat so God could enjoy the sweet savour of burning carcasses... "Christianity" LOL
and its still there, a find of a lifetime
What about the Revolutionary War sub "Turtle"? It was successful.
They also forgot about the Hunley, also successful
Neither the Turtle or the Hunley were successful designs in that neither were designed to submerge fully and then resurface. Both simply relied on neutral buoyancy to maintain a low surface silhouette.
@@dfledermaus
Correct. They weren't even really even submersible boats yet. But the designs were definitely visionary. Everything about submarines evolved from those basic, primitive working prototypes. And led to the incredible underwater machines that exist today. Amazing technology. 👍🏻🤤😲
@@dfledermaus Actually, that is not true about the Hunley. When it was recovered they discovered that the vessel had advanced ballast tank systems and other devices which would be incorporated into later designs. The vessel could submerge completely. In fact, the original attack concept was to dive below the enemy vessel towing a explosive mine device. This attack method was discarded in favor of the spar torpedo which had been successfully used by the semi-submersible David vessels.
@@dfledermaus The Hunley was a true sub in that it could submerge. The David's were the semi submersible torpedo boats of the Confederacy.
Why has this video of this mysterious sub been removed?
wish this was a longer documentry
Können Sie empfehlen Medikamente für Furz und Durchfall? Ich Furz wie eine große Trompete. Vollen Klang, wie ein Kaiser Furz. Mein Durchfall fließt wie ein Fluss.
I would like to know what those things that look like boiler stay bolts are.
+mr611man they are probably just rivets as steel was not welded then but riveted.
Did they ever retrieve it?
If it is that, did they recover it instead of leaving it to further rot in the ocean?
No way to safely recover it. It will break apart immediately. They break apart after being submerged for just weeks
Nope
It lasted over a hundred years so far. It'll probably be fine for a few more weeks.
@Elegant Fowl thos are constantly pressurized and not leaking. I was just using the K-129 situation where the U.S tried to raise a sunken soviet sub that broke in half when they tried to raise it with a cradle and said it had become so fragile after just 3 weeks there was basically no hope to recover it in one piece after the 6 years it took. That was also at the bottom of the ocean but it was built with 1950s technology not 1910s
@@laa0fa502 .... I think you must have misunderstood what you read because submarine thickness steel does not rot/rust or become de-naturized in 3 weeks. I know they had to cut the nose off the Kursk to raise it, but the reason they cannot raise a 3 week old wreck, is the same reason they could not raise that wreck 2 minutes after it sank, and not because some part of the hull had degraded over a 3 week period. Even human bodies are usually raised intact after 3 weeks in the water...
The constant Ad after Ad has made UA-cam so hard to get into anymore.
3:09 worth of a documentary?
OMG, I need to know more! How intriguing & interesting.
Dang it! I was getting in to this and they stopped it
It wasn't the first ever submarine. Cornelius Jacobszoon Drebbel made the first ever moving submarine with several peddles on both sides and a wooden hull
Interesting segment, but I craved to view more of the story. This is one I have not heard of before today.
The full program has aired numerous times on Smithsonian Channel for the last several years.
You Need to do a follow up, or...this was simply the worst....A
Hate to burst your bubble but CSA Hunley was 2 years before this sub and it also sank USS Housatoni. And in 1776 the Turtle did attempt to sink British ships in New York Harbor.
Both where attack subs, the really fist one is from 1620, by Drebbel
Anybody know where the rest of the story is
i wish. i hated being alived near u things that made sure of mine fo
Is that a WAVY boat they came in?
Smithstonedagain ...Thanks for leaving us hanging... again! Grrrr :(
Cool music
Full Story ??
C'mon, man! WHOLE epi, please! I'll even turn off adblock! ;)
there is a wreck of a Japanese sub off the Oregon coast. people say it can be seen from Cape Lookout. Apparently there is little known about it. i don't think outside of locals its not known about. The waters are too treacherous and close to the cliff line for any kind of exploration. That could make for an interesting documentary.
coolnegative any picks of it ?
That thing needs to be salvaged and conserved!
Look up the hunley.
edwin vaugn the Hunley was thin, not wide, and wasn't shaped like that.
CoverFireSix the hl hunley was excavated from the sea bed off the coast of Charleston sc, and is now in a museum. if you're in the area, it's worth checking out. the story about Lt. Dixon is amazing.
Hunley's original prototype diving boat from 1861 New Orleans (later found in Lake Ponchartrain) is shaped nearly the same as this. That boat is on display downtown at the Cabildo. After the union captured new Orleans, the research went to Mobile, AL (a city that didn't fall until a week after Lee surrendered) and the Park and Lyons shops. They built another vessel for testing in the Gulf and lower part of Mobile Bay, The American Diver. It was lost there and never recovered. It was an intermediate design.
The final design was railroaded to Charleston SC with Lt George Dixon (an engineer with the 21st Ala) and a junior Lt with the regiment originally from England, along with Hunley, the primary designer. That ship sank there twice. Once recovered with Huntley and the test crew drowned. Once more after successfully sinking the USS Housatanic. That is the boat on display today in Charleston Navy Yards.
Hope this helps. Don't know about this Panama find. It is very similar to the 1861 model in New Orleans.
I love that ship! You know they built a replica of it, one can go inside and turn the hand crank to work the propeller. I would love to see both the wreckage and the replica one day.
+S Tho That sub is not the Hunley’s predecessor (I wouldn’t call it a prototype). The Pioneer was destroyed. It was found by Union forces soon after New Orleans fell. It was studied extensively on site then abandoned. It sat on the waters edge until 1868, when it was sold for scrap. The submarine you are referring to, which is roughly similar in shape, was a different submarine built around the same time. Unfortunately, that’s about all we know about it. No one knows who built it or what it’s history is. We may never know.
1:12 I think the name is pronounced "Krell" - - ?
2:38 What is the criteria for a true "submarine" - - ?
You tell us, you're telling the story.
I'm pretty sure that the Hunley worked prior to the 1866 use of the gents submerged boat in the video .
No, Drebbel 1620
German. It does not surprise me. They often invent the most amazing machines.
Get your game up ‘Smithsonian’, you’re click bait at this point. No Science, no Smithsonian.
According to Wikipedia "Problems with decompression sickness and overfishing of the pearl beds led to the abandonment of Sub Marine Explorer in Panama in 1869"
Sub Marine Explorer is a submersible built between 1863 and 1866 by Julius H. Kroehl and Ariel Patterson in Brooklyn, New York for the Pacific Pearl Company. It was hand powered and had an interconnected system of a high-pressure air chamber or compartment, a pressurized working chamber for the crew, and water ballast tanks. Problems with decompression sickness and over fishing of the pearl beds led to the abandonment of Sub Marine Explorer in Panama in 1869 despite publicized plans to shift the craft to the pearl beds of Baja California.
uhfnutbar1 You are 100 percent correct. No one would build this death trap unless you could make a lot of money. At the time the idea of it was useless, until the military got involved.
f. why ...allways this 3 minutes videos that stop when the best part starts
In 1859 (5 years before) the Catalan engineer Narcís Monturiol had already invented his "Ictineu I", the first air-independent and combusition-engine submarine.
So what is the rest of the story? Will there be another chapter? Don't leave us hanging like that.
Well, where is the rest of the story?
Awesome!!
Why leaving a wuestion at the end
Ok that was really freaking interesting
During the civil war, weren't there also early subs?
Yes, there was a Confederate submarine named the H.L. Hunley that sank the Union battleship USS Housatonic just outside of Charleston Harbor in 1864. Unfortunately the Hunley was too close to its victim and was therefore also sunk as well. However, there was a submarine used 89 years earlier against the British in the revolutionary War that was called the Turtle, but it was unsuccessful.
and where is the driver?
Hey Google ..... What is the most annoying ad ever..... Or maybe it is a good ad with the world's most annoying person.
Couldn't have been German. It was actually an inhabited island with 7 people. Gilligan, the Skipper, the Millionaire and his wife, a movie star, the professor and Maryanne, here on Gilligan's island.
The question is? How did id get to the pacific? It must have gone through the panama canal circa 1914 by some method or another. However it was first tested in 1866 about 50 years before hand.
Russell K. Bonney See uhfnutbar1. His facts are correct. I saw a real documentary about this “discovery” about 10 years ago
What a mystery. I hope you find what happened. I'm sure there are a few interested in what you find.
Kroehls remains have been repatriated to the US. There is news of an archeological survey of the submarine but no mention of it being preserved. This would be a tragedy. Further news anyone?
Very interesting.
takes a lot of guys to get in a submarine like that.
Left me hanging...
Somewhere in the world there is a complete video story about this submarine find. I know because I viewed it. I just can't remember where I saw it or when. UA-cam? History Channel? National Geographic? I think I saw it within the last year. Maybe someone can do some research and find it ... and come back here and give us the particulars.
It does look like an late 19th century ship. Look at the riveted steel plate design. In WW II they were welding the plates together. This ship was made without welding. That's pre 20th century.
So the Titantic wasn't sunk by an iceberg after all?
That's because it's actually Captain. Nemo's sub the Nautalus. Remember in the book/ movie he had a secret island base 😏
Have they raised it up yet to see if they can restore it to like new condition?
We have subs tho like whale sized ones so how is this amazing in anyway?
Thanks for all the answers smithsonian.
they used the same in civil war- there were several shapes used by north and south. some had drlls some placed mine-some were foot or hand peddles --one with the drill style was shaped like a top and after he,the inventor, got the drill stuck and bleww himself up to sick the Yankee blockade ship but it worked
Yeah how did it get to the other side of the americas
the smithsonisn has shitloads of things like giant skeletons/ egyptian artefacts found in the grand canyon but keep them hidden
emperor you do realize by insulting someone to make your point chances are they aren't even going to bother taking your comment seriously.
Ask the smithsonian about the Giant People they have found.....
Egyptian artefacts foubd in the grand canyon...made my day 😂😂😂😂
You stupid fu**** moron 😂😂😂
peruda hudson LMFAO
Dave Brown theres newspaper reports about the find in 1909
Kroehl and unusual
Aloha that's interesting hugs and prayers from me 2 U from Hawaii Oahu
Thier is an U-Boat off the coast of Nactucket island !
Interesting, but am disappointed in the video's abrupt ending.
It's just a clip from the full program.
I thought the Hunley was the first successful sub?
No, attack sub, fist sub is from 1620 by Drebbel
That monitor looks like it’s straight out of the Smithsonian.