OceanGate Titan Sub Debris Video Shows How It Imploded

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  • Опубліковано 19 вер 2024

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  • @oufukubinta
    @oufukubinta День тому +124

    When even the designer of the sub doesn't wanna step foot inside it you know you've got a problem

    • @CurtisJeffries-cd5vu
      @CurtisJeffries-cd5vu 9 годин тому +1

      an experience like none other... Titan. youll never wanna leave
      2023 n beyond

  • @nikkimaraviglia
    @nikkimaraviglia День тому +240

    Seeing the brand name on the ocean floor is darkly poetic

    • @AluminumOxide
      @AluminumOxide 18 годин тому +1

      the oceangate scandal

    • @ispres
      @ispres 18 годин тому +2

      No it's not

    • @Nords555
      @Nords555 17 годин тому +4

      Its the "Heaven's Gate" inverse... on the Ocean's Floor.

    • @Chez8922-kf6cy
      @Chez8922-kf6cy 8 годин тому

      Nikki, it is.

  • @kiwidiesel
    @kiwidiesel День тому +279

    Ocean gate, the first company to have an advertisement sign placed at the site.😂

    • @Imperyon
      @Imperyon День тому +24

      If only it didn't advertise failure.

    • @lochlanmuir2291
      @lochlanmuir2291 23 години тому +8

      @@Imperyonthat’s sad.

    • @TheAncientOneYT
      @TheAncientOneYT 20 годин тому

      @@Imperyon It didn't fail, it did exactly what even dumb dumb Stockton knew it could possibly do. Even he knew there was a high chance of failure despite him acting cocky and sure of his equipment. He operated on pure faith not facts. When you brag about not supposed to be using carbon fiber because of tested reasons but you are saying, nope, it will hold, not only are you in denial of physics, but denial of what reality is. Guy was playing a video game with peoples lives at stake. Controller Included ...

    • @tencentpistol1
      @tencentpistol1 13 годин тому

      Its funny cuz it's sad!!!😂😂😂

    • @gordonwelcher9598
      @gordonwelcher9598 12 годин тому +3

      At 4:56 a pair of dentures can be clearly seen on the rear surface of the capsule next to the ball of rope.
      I guess the Polygrip didn't hold this time.

  • @chrismaverick9828
    @chrismaverick9828 День тому +45

    The more I find out the more I am aghast at the sheer stupidity of that guy. You cannot toss out hundreds of years of sea-faring knowledge, most of which was earned via death and tragedy, and expect good things to happen. The sea will kill you if you give it a chance or dare mock it. Sometimes the sea will take you even if you are prepared and respectful. Point being you don't make light of it. Such a waste of life. I bet that guy that bailed on his seat is thankful for every morning he wakes up.

    • @thomasgirty6397
      @thomasgirty6397 День тому +4

      we live in a very defined surviveable area. the higher or lower you go the risk of death rise's exponentialy.

    • @Wannes_
      @Wannes_ 19 годин тому

      The US Navy actually had an experimental deep submersible using this technology
      Probably somewhat better executed ... and not as cheap

    • @HandyDandy6
      @HandyDandy6 14 годин тому

      ​@Wannes_ they probably do the actual pmcs required to keep a carbon fiber submarine operational. The issue with oceangate is they seem to have been try7ng to squeeze profit out of this submarine to failure

  • @bccsivxx-xxivvii
    @bccsivxx-xxivvii День тому +251

    That carbon fiber just crumbled to pieces. You can see them all over the ocean floor.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  День тому +47

      I would love to see a body cam of that implosion

    • @bccsivxx-xxivvii
      @bccsivxx-xxivvii День тому +16

      @@jeffostroff crazy to think about. Have they said if they ever found any remains? Appreciate your videos btw. Always very interesting.

    • @TheeDanIslander
      @TheeDanIslander День тому +7

      @@jeffostroffwhat would of happened to their bodies ?? There is go pro footage down there for sure

    • @deltasyn7434
      @deltasyn7434 День тому +10

      shattered like glass.

    • @girlingoldboots5273
      @girlingoldboots5273 День тому

      ​They said they found apparent remains, and tested them and found that they had genetics of all the decedents. ​@@bccsivxx-xxivvii

  • @neotheseattledj
    @neotheseattledj День тому +205

    Watching this all i can think about is how smug and smart Stockton thought he was. The way he talked about the titan reminded me of confidence someone has when they are scamming the hell out of people and thinks nobody is gonna stop him

    • @PAS_2020
      @PAS_2020 День тому +5

      Exactly. And now we have a whole nation talking like Stockton Rush! MSM talking like Stockton Rush! Wow - how far we have come since that day. 🙈

    • @fuckyougoogle836
      @fuckyougoogle836 День тому +9

      What he didn't realize is that the successful scammers do not believe in their scams' and don't believe what they are saying !

    • @peterwexler5737
      @peterwexler5737 День тому +3

      Mr. Rush was the P.T. Barnum of the deep.

    • @lateralus614
      @lateralus614 День тому

      the old snake ocean salesman.

    • @markinoz4795
      @markinoz4795 День тому +2

      bit like the donald

  • @AzgetFX
    @AzgetFX 11 годин тому +19

    Thank you for mentioning my work! I will do an update with the new information we have.

  • @hilly1122
    @hilly1122 День тому +45

    That tail cone probably stayed so intact because it wasn't pressurized, right? Obviously the pressure vessel was obliterated, but it looks like the force of the implosion shot the shell away and saved it's structure.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  День тому +14

      yes, it was outside the pressure chamber so none of the fiberglass shell imploded

    • @mertonallowicious
      @mertonallowicious День тому +3

      @@jeffostroffheck the ratchet strap even stayed on!😅

  • @vincentnavea6999
    @vincentnavea6999 День тому +28

    naming the sub almost like the name of the Titanic is already a bad omen.

    • @agnosticlibertarian175
      @agnosticlibertarian175 День тому +5

      Comes full circle

    • @maryjanedodo
      @maryjanedodo День тому +2

      Titan, in Greek mythology, are any of the children of Uranus (Heaven) and Gaea (Earth) and their descendants...

    • @JohnZimm_80085
      @JohnZimm_80085 9 годин тому +2

      Never a good idea to attach the prefix "titan-" or "concord-" to your product.

  • @SvPVids
    @SvPVids День тому +56

    you can still see the bag filled with the Styrofoam cups with everyone's signature hanging from the back

    • @blakerodriguez5999
      @blakerodriguez5999 День тому +3

      At what time?

    • @xxfalconarasxx5659
      @xxfalconarasxx5659 День тому +2

      Where?

    • @GaspardHausers
      @GaspardHausers День тому +18

      ​@@blakerodriguez5999it's at 0:23. The white bag hanging down in the middle above the strap where the sides of the tailcone meet.

    • @lyndadtekaat1151
      @lyndadtekaat1151 День тому +6

      Wow!! Good eye!! Seeing the debris and how some pieces weren't obliterated as previously thought. Originally everyone was saying with implosion, there'd be hardly anything remaining, the Titan, etc.. Makes me wonder just how long they knew of their demise, doom.

    • @JuliusCaesar888
      @JuliusCaesar888 День тому +4

      It's literally a tombstone in that shot

  • @2007cgarza
    @2007cgarza День тому +20

    I was walking with friends a few years ago at Everett WA Marina, they were displaying this same capsule telling anyone who would listen walking by how this was going to be traveling down to the Titanic. I stuck my head into the thing, and when I see the parts, on the bottom of the ocean aside the Titanic, I'm still. disturbed. I wish very much I had taken a photo of the thing, but had no clue what would happen. I feel the most for the teenage son, have read he was very hesitant but didn't want to disappoint his dad who was taking him on the thing.

    • @MotorsportCreative
      @MotorsportCreative 6 годин тому

      I don’t know too much back story on any of the people involved, but just see that people died. Hopefully something good comes out of the tragedy.

  • @Howard_Hunter_
    @Howard_Hunter_ День тому +66

    The folly of Rush is astounding.

    • @antontustin2770
      @antontustin2770 День тому +8

      The fact he went by Stockton when his name was Richard. Oh and don’t forget the III . Pompous, moi?

    • @bb-gc2tx
      @bb-gc2tx День тому +1

      stockton crushed 🤣

    • @Shazzadut1
      @Shazzadut1 23 години тому +2

      No I think his arrogance is astounding.

  • @fionanatalieholden5965
    @fionanatalieholden5965 День тому +41

    Thank you Jeff! Really can't wait for you wrapping up this story, I have followed you from almost day one and you have done an incredible job, with no bs, just considered engineering analysis.
    Well done and thanks for all your hard work ❤

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  День тому +6

      Awesome! Thank you!

    • @fionanatalieholden5965
      @fionanatalieholden5965 18 годин тому

      @@jeffostroff No problem! You are the awesome one!
      One little favour to ask, would it be too much trouble for you to put in the same background music for your final stuff on OceanGate? would make it all tie up nicely.
      Thanks x x x

  • @LiveToHuntAndFish
    @LiveToHuntAndFish День тому +149

    I still remember looking at that thing when it was strapped onto a flat deck transport truck that was parked right across the street from my house, I went over and took a picture that day of the Titan ..and remember looking at it..wondering if it was a ROV or a submarine ...i know it just looking at it, gave me this Gut feeling ...this is unsafe...anyways it left a few days later and i never saw it again ...oddly enough it arrived back on a truck bed again across the street from my house after the disaster..this time enclosed in a large shipping container in pieces..

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  День тому +54

      You should post the photo

    • @milkphish4122
      @milkphish4122 День тому +13

      Wow. That is a remarkable story.

    • @rrip1527
      @rrip1527 День тому +17

      The tube squeezed and popped the glued on end cap off like driving a dump truck over a 20 oz bottle of water.

    • @HumanHamCube
      @HumanHamCube День тому +5

      Damn St John's representing.

    • @LiveToHuntAndFish
      @LiveToHuntAndFish 23 години тому +3

      @@jeffostroff I would but I am not actually Sure how ..to tell the truth I am new to the whole youtube posting thing ..I have tried to post a few Hunting and fishing videos but it all came out like crap so i just erased them... I must add that i did not take a picture of its return .. simply because the shipping container was closed from view ..but you could also see the large crane system that they used to retrieve the sub which was also on the trailer .. which was visible, my neighbor talked to the Truck Driver and he said that the Titan parts were in the enclosed shipping container.

  • @kerwynbrat5771
    @kerwynbrat5771 21 годину тому +18

    The body of the sub shows the implosion was at that forward dome. The entire sub body is smashed into the rear dome. There are small pieces scattered but if you look closely you can see that the sub body simply was "sucked" back into the rear dome indicating a front ring failure. So the implosion was front to back.

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 9 годин тому +2

      Not just the sub body but the passengers too. Whatever was left of them was compressed into that debris... It's pretty eerie seeing it. I didn't know they had such high quality footage of it.

  • @Revoncheap
    @Revoncheap День тому +24

    I actually happy they got David Lochridge to come out to the hearing.

    • @DashDriver-z1r
      @DashDriver-z1r День тому

      OSHA failed the people he did his best and Lockridge was bullied into silence they threatened to get him deported and bankrupt him while OSHA spent 9 months doing nothing!

    • @helenllama
      @helenllama 20 годин тому

      Subpoena makes a difference

  • @j.t.cooper2963
    @j.t.cooper2963 День тому +49

    I worked in composites (specifically carbon fiber) at Boeing for 30 years and I can't believe they thought that an epoxy based adhesive was going to hold that titanium to the carbon fiber under those kind of pressure loads over and over. I actually bonded carbon fiber shims to titanium wing spars on the A-6 re-wing program as a repair when the machine shop milled too much of the titanium off of the wing spars. We kind of thought that was crazy but Engineering and the Navy approved those repairs and those did last until the jets were finally retired.

    • @SaffronWorldCR
      @SaffronWorldCR День тому +11

      The carbon fiber used in aeronautics is perfectly fine for that use.
      The issue is that you can't (or shouldn't) use carbon fiber for submersibles because carbon fiber excels in tension load (great for planes) but sucks in compression load (deep-sea).
      Also, carbon fiber will fail instantly, titanium on the other hand will give you signs of starting to break so you have time to react.
      Carbon fiber has porosity which isn't a big deal for a plane, but you don't really want water entering your underwater vehicle...
      The only reason this guy made the sub out of carbon fiber is because it was cheaper, not because it was better or a good idea.
      Rich guys think they are rich because they're smarter than anyone else, well here's the results of that theory.

    • @colinbm2010
      @colinbm2010 День тому +1

      @@SaffronWorldCR I don't understand why the only used a single curve surface for the tube & not a two curve surface like a wooden barrel ?

    • @erikarnstrom897
      @erikarnstrom897 День тому

      I think the idea was the water pressure shold push the titanium dome against the carbon wall. As long as the carbon hull did not flex it should be okey. If water came into the hull the domes and window would be pushed off. If the window failed due to preassure from outside I think it would have been sent through the cabin into the rear dome and smashed or pushed it off.
      If the hull collapsed, the water preassere should pushed the domes off.

    • @j.t.cooper2963
      @j.t.cooper2963 День тому

      @@SaffronWorldCR I worked in composites for 30 years and porosity is a big deal for aircraft. All of the carbon fiber parts for aircraft has to be sealed so water doesn't penetrate the part and then freeze at altitude. I agree that money doesn't equal intelligence.

    • @TerryHickey-xt4mf
      @TerryHickey-xt4mf День тому

      when I worked in the carbon fiber industry, I could not believe they actually wound the strands like a barrel, there is not much strength in just that single linear way, did they weave it in a diagonal way as well? which we used to do.

  • @JJFX-
    @JJFX- День тому +20

    I'm not an engineer, just a guy with an industrial design background and even I would have walked away after hearing the plan to keep each dome attached using nothing but adhesive. I can see why they chose that route but having no additional solutions to constrain those sections is just mind blowing.
    You might get me to buy into a CF cylinder idea after extensive testing but certainly not in the way they're doing it. It's really sad that people lost their lives to this incompetence, regardless who they were.

    • @PeaceMarauder
      @PeaceMarauder День тому +1

      I was thinking it needed a ring of titanium or 2 inside the vessel to help with pressure and certainly something better than glue or better attaching surfaces.

    • @toecutterjenkins
      @toecutterjenkins 23 години тому +1

      I always felt the adhesive failed from the hull flexing over time. At the least, this vessel should have been rebuilt xrayed and inspected after every dive.

    • @hojo70
      @hojo70 15 годин тому +1

      ​@@PeaceMarauderAnother ring wouldn't have helped, the carbon fiber itself wasn't the issue, it was the fact that it was bonded to another material. The carbon fiber and titanium each expand and contract at different rates, and under the massive pressures they were repeatedly subjected to it took only a microscopic gap to eventually form to cause a complete decompression failure.

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 9 годин тому

      No reason to ever use composite, it was a stupid idea. If they had just built the whole thing from the same titanium the end caps were made up they'd all still be alive.

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 9 годин тому +1

      @@hojo70 That's not true, the carbon fiber is the issue. Numerous engineers and subject matter experts have said that carbon fiber cannot be used for this purpose. The fact there is no good way to bond the carbon fiber to the titanium end caps is just one of multiple reason carbon fiber is not suited for this purpose.

  • @historylover13
    @historylover13 День тому +28

    Thank you for this, it's really haunting and was totally preventable. Ego kills.

  • @TravisTrittFan
    @TravisTrittFan День тому +59

    I came across your channel a while back, long before the Titan sub incident...but I'll say that of all the channels covering the Titan sub controversy, yours is the one that always keeps me captivated. I should have been in bed 30 minutes ago, but I just saw you posted this new video and I'm like nope. Grabbed me a Coke and some peanut butter crackers and imma sit here and watch this. Thank you!

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  День тому +11

      I should have been in bed too, but video editing kept me up later

    • @TravisTrittFan
      @TravisTrittFan День тому +6

      @jeffostroff Well your dedication is appreciated! Get some rest, its been earned and well deserved.

    • @christopherpoucher483
      @christopherpoucher483 День тому +2

      Gotta be a shoe somewhere

    • @milkphish4122
      @milkphish4122 День тому +3

      @@jeffostroffYour stuff is always the best, Jeff. Thanks for this video. Been waiting more than a year for it.

    • @Mae-nr7wr
      @Mae-nr7wr День тому +1

      captivated with factious transcripts

  • @kat8canary77
    @kat8canary77 День тому +20

    I am bothering my friends and family with summaries of the Coast Guard hearings. So far, truck bed liner used to seal the hull and Stockton's hissy fit throwing the Playstation controller at Lochridge are the best. I read the threat/lawsuit that Oceangate filed against Lochridge and the best of that was page 7 when it said Lochridge mooned Tony Nissen and the engineering crew.
    I am hoping for more breaks during the hearings, I feel for the very pregnant Coast Guard officer.
    Bedtime, the hearings start at 7:15 am for me. Thank you for explaining what the debris was. I saw the clips but had no idea what I was seeing.

  • @michaellodge5456
    @michaellodge5456 День тому +17

    The animation of what the implosion mightve looked like was nuts.

    • @PeaceMarauder
      @PeaceMarauder День тому +2

      Now we know it probably failed from the front top or sides and imploded to the aft knocking loose the tail cone. The sub hit aft dome first and leaned over. The carbon chunks are packed to the aft. I'd love to see a new animation of this.

    • @eileenfletcher6520
      @eileenfletcher6520 11 годин тому +1

      ​@PeaceMarauder it would be interesting if they replicate sub with jelly dummies same weight as passengers etc and do a dive n record implosion to see what it's like like a csi investiation or myth busters. I mean you can get idea of what happened but still hard to really think about what it was like. But ya it's interesting to see more details come out.

  • @Incognito980
    @Incognito980 День тому +27

    Loving each update!! Thanks for your coverage!!!

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  День тому +2

      Glad you like them!

    • @Mae-nr7wr
      @Mae-nr7wr День тому +2

      time to update the fake transcript video

  • @Itsallwrongbutthatsallright
    @Itsallwrongbutthatsallright День тому +25

    Navy heard the implosion but kept it a secret to not disclose ability to heard stuff over large bodies of water to enemies. The 'rescue' mission going on for days was just for show. And frankly, anyone with the slightest knowledge of diving and pressure or insight in materials used to build the sub, knew that 390+ Bars of pressure is a unforgiving environment and they were gone ! It happened so fast, their brains didn't register the event. However, they may very well have heard cracking sounds before the implosion and that must have been absolutely terrifying !

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 9 годин тому +2

      I wouldn't say it was just for show since the people searching didn't know it imploded. But while they were searching I was personally pretty surprised people thought they might still be alive...

    • @slickest123452
      @slickest123452 3 години тому

      if they didn’t want to reveal that capability why did James Cameron know about the detected implosion from an inside source within hours of the sub going missing?
      It was basically a twisted version of the trolley problem because they know the system isn’t 100% accurate. If they say nothing, the search goes on for a few days until it’s physically impossible for them to have survived (ran out of air).
      But if they say something, the rescue becomes a recovery (still spending tons of money to find the sub), and the lack of urgency/change in search method could have led to them being discovered having suffocated to death while floating at the surface with no power or coms, or entangled in some cables on the titanic that an ROV could have easily cut them free from.
      It wasn’t worth the risk for them to assume what they detected was 100% the titan imploding, and call off the rescue prematurely. How bad would the person who made that decision feel if they could have saved the crew in time?

    • @Itsallwrongbutthatsallright
      @Itsallwrongbutthatsallright 3 години тому

      @@bobbygetsbanned6049 True, I stand corrected, the searchers didn't know. It must have been pretty daunting for them to realize afterward that it was all in vain. Think of all the resources wasted and the families hoping for a miracle but being kept in the dark.

  • @jhnoakez
    @jhnoakez День тому +65

    Why is no one else mentioning how the back of the submersible appears to have been held together with a common ratchet strap? You can clearly see a hardware store style ratchet strap wrapped around the back fairing. Like holy crap they used literal garbage for ballast and had it held together with the same kind of strap I use to tie my garbage down when going on a dump run.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  День тому +19

      looks almost like a bungie cord

    • @chilidog6727
      @chilidog6727 День тому +9

      no offense but that isn't even a ratchet strap, more of a lashing strap absolute garbage.
      Is this strap noticed on any pre launch video?

    • @jeffbehringer1262
      @jeffbehringer1262 День тому +8

      Question from a novice, but that part wasn’t pressurized, right? Appears that the pressurized part was completely gone. Would the strap have any role other than containing parts that wouldn’t experience depth issues? I agree it looks thrown together like someone attaching a kayak to their car to head to the lake.

    • @bryanb6931
      @bryanb6931 День тому +8

      That strap isn't structural, Its just there to keep it in place on the substructure. I suspect they had problems attaching it due to expanding and contracting.

    • @TravisTrittFan
      @TravisTrittFan День тому +8

      @bryanb6931 What I thought myself. Another one of Stocktons cop outs being cheap, the panels probably broke a latch and wouldn't hold together like it should so they pulled a MacGyver move and said get the straps!

  • @Sharauni
    @Sharauni День тому +17

    I don't want to think this as it's awful, but my first thought on why the Coast Guard is chopping the videos into smaller parts is that there may be things we don't need to see...like body parts. It's possible there are none, or at least none that can be readily identified, but still... Out of respect for the families I can see them censoring all that out. And I can't blame them.

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 9 годин тому +3

      I think you're right. With the way the titanium dome is several feet away and the view port missing it seems likely they were pulverized and ejected in the same direction. There might be clothes or even identifiable pieces of remains they don't want included in the video.

  • @illustratorBWC
    @illustratorBWC День тому +23

    Darwin award of the decade goes to....

    • @TravisTrittFan
      @TravisTrittFan День тому +10

      @illustratorBWC maybe even a strong contender for the Darwin Lifetime Achievement Award

    • @StocktonCrushedd
      @StocktonCrushedd День тому +2

      So honored to be the recipient of this prestigious award 🥹💥

    • @Dave_Albright
      @Dave_Albright 23 години тому

      i agree, but not for the son. He did this for his father (father day)

  • @williamboyle8918
    @williamboyle8918 День тому +82

    He should have bought Flex Seal.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  День тому +20

      Phil swift would have been proud

    • @ccoder4953
      @ccoder4953 День тому +6

      Well, they did at least use a ratchet strap.

    • @thindigital
      @thindigital День тому

      Testimony to the USCG included the fact they used industrial bed liner to cover the carbon tube after winding, to hide the many surface defects that were visible and 'seal' it.

    • @jedidiahhenry6020
      @jedidiahhenry6020 День тому +13

      "that's a lot of damage!"

    • @dennisnewman678
      @dennisnewman678 День тому +1

      Lol

  • @markmaki4460
    @markmaki4460 День тому +29

    I am most interested in the state of the human remains. This is not out of morbid interest, but out of scientific interest. All the parts of the submersible appear pretty much how most of us anticipated, with the exception of the larger chunks than expected of carbon fiber surviving.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  День тому +6

      "presumed human remains"

    • @hilly1122
      @hilly1122 День тому +8

      I would expect them to be mangled within that main chamber wreckage in the second clip, but the statements made last year specifically used the words "human remains identified on the ocean floor" which seems vague at best and misleading at most.
      The blue light in the water makes it impossible to notice anything that might be red in color so honestly we may be looking right at remains here and not even realize it.

    • @chrismaverick9828
      @chrismaverick9828 День тому +14

      Probably not too much left that would be identifiable. Humans are squishy and crunchy in terms of physical structure and the implosion would likely both shred and pulverize most of the body, both from the carbon fiber and the water coming in at an instant. Shoes, jewelry, might be the most likely to be intact. Even the Coast Guard doesn't like showing that kind of stuff to the masses.

    • @paulrybarczyk5013
      @paulrybarczyk5013 День тому +8

      Much like the carbon shell of the sub, their bodies disintegrated into little pieces, and most of those pieces floated away or got eaten.

    • @girlingoldboots5273
      @girlingoldboots5273 День тому +10

      ​​@@hilly1122IIRC, they said that that's where they found them last year. The Coast Guard presentation said they identified genetic material consistent with each of the victims.

  • @davids.watson7342
    @davids.watson7342 День тому +6

    Most mechanical engineers know that the more junctions, joints, and sections you have the more risk of failure you get in a stress situation. And by no means a cylinder is the best shape to resist deformation from overall uniform high pressure. The face of Stockton during that inconceivable “gluing” says it all on the madness of that “engineering”.

    • @Itsallwrongbutthatsallright
      @Itsallwrongbutthatsallright 23 години тому +5

      True, it's always a sphere, perfectly round ball, used a s pressure chamber for extreme deep waters. Navy subs, which are cylinder shape, don't go anywhere near these kind of depths, I think they 'only' go to about 300 m. Biggest tragedy is that Stockton was warned repeatedly and actually took offence at his critics, who were all experts !

    • @davids.watson7342
      @davids.watson7342 23 години тому +2

      @@Itsallwrongbutthatsallright Indeed, and when you saw that the CF cylinder was glued to that collar circular frame, you probably had the same “wtf” questioning moment in your mind like we did. Not even mentioning the absence of structural reinforcement with the tubular cabin (although it would have made little difference at that much pressure per square cm.) Spherical is indeed the best single shape to maintain overall uniform integrity.

  • @k53847
    @k53847 День тому +12

    Jeff, the video of the assembly is not of the hull that failed. This was the first hull, which oceangate condemned. The hull that failed was made by Electroimpact, which is a serious manufacturer.

    • @leftlanereiko6063
      @leftlanereiko6063 День тому +1

      They said the glue failed and the ring came clean off in the front...the sub never imploded...

    • @PaulTaylor1
      @PaulTaylor1 День тому

      ​@@leftlanereiko6063who "they"?

    • @wettale
      @wettale День тому +1

      ​@@leftlanereiko6063 what

    • @slydawgg
      @slydawgg День тому +1

      @@leftlanereiko6063The glue on the ring gave way eventually,as soon as the seal is compromised the pressure would be equalised in a fraction of a second.It imploded.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 День тому +1

      yet it’s the same process that they used thus showing the incompetence of the design

  • @paulgunovich2766
    @paulgunovich2766 День тому +7

    Hollywood will be doing a movie about this for sure

  • @mt_baldwin
    @mt_baldwin День тому +7

    Yes that piece is the other titanium dome, you can see it clearly at 5:50 with some sand in the bottom if it (I'm not as sure this, but that looks like the one with the view port hole cut into it with sand pushing up through the hole). The two clips we got seem to imply that the back of the sub took the least amount of damage, while the front was totally destroyed.
    Also yes guys that work with bonding carbon fiber flipped out at the shoddy workmanship on display they were doing in the bonding (there vids on UA-cam by them talking about it). For an application like this they'd have wanted the bonding done in a sterilized clean room environment and that they'd be wearing not just rubber gloves but a full cleanroom suit.

  • @tinysmith1834
    @tinysmith1834 День тому +12

    Claim is.....adhesive failed! Great update!

    • @Baerchenization
      @Baerchenization День тому +1

      The claim is that two dissimilar materials like titanium and carbon fibre compress at different rates, and therefore sooner or later, the rings had to pop off the cylinder.

    • @thomasgirty6397
      @thomasgirty6397 День тому

      look's like the composite was blown into the end cap. the pic's show it full of carbon fiber. not a whole lot of chunk's on the bottom.

  • @PeaceMarauder
    @PeaceMarauder День тому +13

    Did you look at the sub part and aft dome? It's packed with carbon fiber chunks. The Titan failed from the front top or sides and imploded to the back. The chunks are tightly packed at the aft.

    • @GaspardHausers
      @GaspardHausers День тому +2

      In media reports the aft dome was depicted as being retrieved in October, whereas everything else was brought up in June or July (can't remember) even though the aft dome is right there in this video. It wasn't in the well known video of the parts being brought to shore.

    • @Null8fuenf10
      @Null8fuenf10 День тому

      ​​@@GaspardHausersProbably because the aft dome has nothing to hold onto.
      The front dome has the port hole, the ring is - well - a ring, the 'landing gear' and the aft section, all can be easily hoisted with a rope, whereas the aft dome is just a smooth half-sphere with nothing to grab onto and would need something like a tarp or a net that needs to go somehow underneath and I doubt this ROV, that was could've done that all by itself.
      Also to clarify, the dome that's sitting in the sand all by itself, that is the aft dome. It was directly glued to the carbon fiber hull.
      The mess with the carbon fiber, the ring and the dome, that is the front, which also means the carbon fiber held onto the ring and was removed somewhere during the recovery process.
      The front dome, which also was the hatch, was bolted to the ring which was glued to the carbon fiber hull.

    • @GaspardHausers
      @GaspardHausers День тому +1

      @@Null8fuenf10 you're right. I've just been overwhelmed and surprised that they even released this video in the first place. Didn't think we'd ever see it. I didn't see anyone else mentioning the dome being brought up so much later, so thought I would. Btw, I didn't mention the aft dome being the one with the compressed mass.

    • @Null8fuenf10
      @Null8fuenf10 День тому

      @@GaspardHausers Yeah, I didn't think about the late recovery of the aft dome at all until I read Your comment lol
      I know, I just added it, because of the comment You replied to and also because many others (including myself at first and Jeff) think the dome, ring, carbon fiber mess is the aft portion.

    • @patrickmorrissey2271
      @patrickmorrissey2271 21 годину тому +2

      That was my impression as well, PeaceMarauder... Hull crushes, front (nose) dome blows off, travels whatever distance we see there... The aft section is on the bottom, stuffed with broken up carbon fiber hull chunks....

  • @danielmad
    @danielmad День тому +6

    This is an excellent video! one of the best I've seen on UA-cam.

  • @dg4545
    @dg4545 13 годин тому +19

    No bodies either. Not even clothes. Thats because the implosion was so quick, and so destructive, that the crew was basically atomized to the point not even their bones survived! That is a horrifying way to go.

    • @PortsmouthCherokee
      @PortsmouthCherokee 11 годин тому +1

      Nah it's way quick yous never even know it wouldn't matter anymore

    • @sshreddderr9409
      @sshreddderr9409 10 годин тому

      Im not convinced that this was the case. Too me, the parts do not look that devastated. You can see parts of the carbon fiber that are decently sized. I am no expert, but bodies are mostly water. I think there could have been body parts. Maybe they were swept away, already consumed or unrecognizably small, but I think there is a bias towards them being instantly pulverized because it seems less terrifying

    • @Solkre82
      @Solkre82 10 годин тому +1

      Best way to go. About as close to the Thanos Snap as you can get.

    • @bobbygetsbanned6049
      @bobbygetsbanned6049 9 годин тому

      @@sshreddderr9409 Agreed, I highly doubt nothing survived for the same reason. Humans can scuba dive to 900+ feet deep because we are mostly water and don't compress. If there was really nothing, not even clothes in the debris, it seems very likely that they were all pulverized and ejected out the same way the viewport and titanium ring were, but the remains were likely too small to be found on the sea floor.

    • @DanielMcGuire-hv9zs
      @DanielMcGuire-hv9zs 8 годин тому +1

      @@bobbygetsbanned6049but the air does. It diesel effects and fries them. It would be like being inside the piston of a running engine for one stroke.

  • @SeanBZA
    @SeanBZA День тому +9

    Plain dome is front, port is under the sand. Back section still has the glue holding. Front was blown right off, so likely the failure point was that rear dome joint, as the imploding section would not have had much energy, but by the time the piston of water had reached the front it had enough energy to blow the front dome off, blow out the viewport, and shear off all the mounting bolts, as they are not really there for any structural use, merely to hold the front seal in position till water pressure forces it into seal properly. The rear intact says that was the top that failed, probably the back third of the carbon fibre, based on all of it being wadded up into the rear dome, and not enough energy to blow the dome off completely, but tearing the fibre mat and folding it into the rear.
    will be interesting to see the front dome pictures, showing how it delaminated, and yes very likely the entire epoxy ring did pop off, but the poor adhesion probably was not too much of a factor here, as even if it did fail, the force would not have popped the entire dome clean off.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 День тому +3

      Back dome was glued directly to the shell. The front dome was bolted to the glued ring.
      The bolts holding the front flange and forward pressure dome failed when the parts of the hull hit forward dome from behind.
      The rear dome completely separated from the rest of hull during the implosion.

    • @PeaceMarauder
      @PeaceMarauder День тому +3

      I was thinking the opposite. The failure was at the front top or sides blowing off the dome and the view port. I'd like to see an animation with the info gathered from the pix.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 День тому

      @@PeaceMarauder The hull floor panel is still in place. About a third of the hull is inside the entry dome and its mating flange.
      It’s interesting that the carbon fibre composite failed along the length of the hull across the fibre direction when it was wound onto the hull former.

    • @cyphi474
      @cyphi474 21 годину тому

      Front dome. Carbon pieces were thrown back.

  • @Kristine-x1t
    @Kristine-x1t День тому +4

    Haunting footage. I am reminded of a line from the song 'The Edmond Fitzgerald' written and performed by Gordon Lightfoot..."Where does the love of God go, when the minutes turn into hours."

  • @alphalima6810
    @alphalima6810 День тому +6

    They might not have experience pain, but I expect they had some time to know they were doomed.

  • @Martinchox
    @Martinchox День тому +9

    Imagine seeing a ratchet strap holding the submarine you're about to get in.

    • @nuguns3766
      @nuguns3766 День тому

      yo that was holding the cosmetic plates

    • @BartSliggers
      @BartSliggers День тому +2

      @@nuguns3766 Yo, would you step in an airplane with the 'cosmetic plates' held in place with a ratchet strap ?

  • @nesrinoz3926
    @nesrinoz3926 День тому +16

    Even those boots on titanic site that belonged to a titanic victim is not as horrific as what's left of this sub.

  • @davidjoseph7142
    @davidjoseph7142 День тому +5

    The way they glued it was obviously part of the problem but the biggest part of the problem was narcissism.

    • @TerryHickey-xt4mf
      @TerryHickey-xt4mf День тому +1

      Gluing two different materials like composite and titanium to withstand the pressures at the depth of the Titanic is madness without strenuous testing first.

  • @barkburton1
    @barkburton1 20 годин тому +6

    I feel most for the kid that didn’t even want to go but did so because of his father. Sad all the way around

    • @sapphireshore
      @sapphireshore 17 годин тому

      That story was apparently made up by an estranged family member. Apparently he told others that he was excited to go.

  • @Malama_Ki
    @Malama_Ki День тому +4

    Good point about the adhesion. I’ve had cars with handprints rust through from under the paint where a worker touched it before painting.

    • @TerryHickey-xt4mf
      @TerryHickey-xt4mf День тому +1

      I can vouch for that, when I was in the fiberglass industry, every time something went sticky, there was the handprint!

  • @Itsallwrongbutthatsallright
    @Itsallwrongbutthatsallright 23 години тому +2

    The oxygen molecules in their bodies were squeezed so fast and so hard that they actually exploded. It can really ruin your day !

  • @charron1
    @charron1 День тому +15

    Game controller would be an interesting find

  • @WackyModder84
    @WackyModder84 14 годин тому +2

    Scott Manley did a good analysis video on the wreckage. He pointed out that all of the carbon fiber seems to have been crumbled into a ball towards the rear of the vessel when it imploded. That seems to indicate that the catastrophic failure occured somewhere in the front of the vessel. We know it's not the portal window, but it could very well be around the area where the titanium ring was connected to the front area that gave way.

  • @movzhepok
    @movzhepok День тому +2

    Absolutely agree that what his filmed at 11:28 looks frankly like the front dome that had the acrylic viewport (the unfamous viewport rated of not even half of the depth they were going to). Another good take on this one, thanks for your work !

  • @Cybnew
    @Cybnew День тому +3

    You can see what looks like a mesh bag that you would put styrofoam cups in to see how they shrink. We’d decorate them and put them on sample rigs that we would drop down to 1000m for CTD samples

  • @StocktonCrushedd
    @StocktonCrushedd День тому +2

    Boy, that was one heck of an implosion! 💥

  • @GoodMorningVietnam98
    @GoodMorningVietnam98 День тому +7

    At least it was over quickly. They were completely compacted in an instant.

    • @edpoe1108
      @edpoe1108 День тому +7

      I'm sure the hull made some eerie noises before it did though.

    • @bostonrailfan2427
      @bostonrailfan2427 День тому +2

      and what remained we saw: they were in the “still attached” dome

    • @mattymox86
      @mattymox86 День тому

      Jesus just thinking about the moments before the implosion terrifies me. The noises it probably made as the pressure was crushing it all while in complete darkness. 😢​@@edpoe1108

  • @89firebird
    @89firebird День тому +9

    Impressive keep up the good work

  • @flatmoontheory
    @flatmoontheory День тому +9

    It really boggles the mind that a collection of pretty smart people still decided carbon fiber and glue was a safe choice for a submarine hull that was going down 370 atmospheres...

    • @chrismaverick9828
      @chrismaverick9828 День тому +4

      Smart is a relative term. He hired limited-experience, knowledgeable people from aerospace. That knowledge should not be all you rely on when building something that is going deep under water. Common sense says to hire knowledgeable, experienced people from the deep sea tech community, but he wasn't liking what they said about his ideas.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 День тому +5

      One man, Stockton Rush decided it was safe based on his aircraft experience. He immediately fired anyone who disagreed.

    • @webfreezy
      @webfreezy День тому

      @@chrismaverick9828 That's the topic "carbon fire is good for pressure from the inside, but not from the outside", right?

  • @tripodcatz5532
    @tripodcatz5532 19 годин тому +2

    I've just started a new dive service to the Titanic with a submarine I built from stuff I bought at Home Depot. This will be a pay-in-advance 'Self-guided tour'. Basically, you pay me and I put you in the Sub and tell you how to operate it. Not responsible for death or injury! No refunds. Prices subject to change.

  • @backwoodbeaches7895
    @backwoodbeaches7895 День тому +8

    So is NOBODY gonna talk about the RATCHET STRAP around the hull?

    • @chrismaverick9828
      @chrismaverick9828 День тому +4

      Kind of dumb, but was probably just holding the panels from flapping a bit more than they liked. Was definitely not any part of the structural system.

    • @BartSliggers
      @BartSliggers День тому

      @@chrismaverick9828 What quantity of straps would you consider sufficient to be a red flag ?

    • @jaysonchrzanowski9230
      @jaysonchrzanowski9230 23 години тому

      The strap just held the exterior panel on. That section is not pressurized.

  • @WLeibrandt
    @WLeibrandt День тому +4

    This is a great video. Among other things it does not use annyoing background music.

  • @lindap.p.1337
    @lindap.p.1337 18 годин тому +4

    This was maddening for the young man aboard. The others made adult decisions.

    • @jujubee463
      @jujubee463 17 годин тому +1

      I read the teenage son didn't want to go, but he was coerced to go by his father.

  • @The_Reckoning_Is_Here
    @The_Reckoning_Is_Here 20 годин тому +1

    That looks like the other titanium ring because you can see where the window sits. Thank you for explaining things so throughly!

  • @midasracer
    @midasracer День тому +3

    It's the forward dome, in the hearings a man explained the celan edge of the forward dome. He was sure this was the first point of failure. The window has not yet been found.

  • @PoipoleEntertainment1987
    @PoipoleEntertainment1987 15 годин тому +1

    When I first saw the released footage I didn’t believe it and thought it was just another animation of how the Titan imploded, but man I feel bad for the kid, the dad, the other guy, and especially the controller. It’s surprising that the front, back, and the leg support of the Titan survived the pressure.

  • @lamontcranston8181
    @lamontcranston8181 День тому +8

    I have a hard time believing that any ACTUAL engineer was apart of building this sub.

    • @tristanholland6445
      @tristanholland6445 День тому +1

      I don't there are plenty of stupid engineers out there.

    • @ligmasack9038
      @ligmasack9038 День тому

      Just because they went to College doesn't mean they are Smart/Intelligent; it just means they were willing to stroke their "Professors" Ego.

  • @Engrphotog21
    @Engrphotog21 18 годин тому +2

    I know this wasnt the case, but when they were still looking and everyone hoping it was just stranded at the bottom, i had this vision of the other 4 people beating up Stockton Rush as their oxygen supply dwindled because his corner cutting cost them their lives.

  • @Obiter3
    @Obiter3 День тому +3

    Very good point about the smoothness of the titanium ring's surface

    • @ionuti2658
      @ionuti2658 День тому

      that surface of the ring is the top one, conected with the end caps , which the man was wipeing with the rag. the bottom one we don't see, is U shaped.

    • @jesperwall839
      @jesperwall839 20 годин тому

      Not a good point at all, as that’s not how this kind of adhesive works.

  • @bobbygetsbanned6049
    @bobbygetsbanned6049 9 годин тому

    I never expected them to have such high quality and well lit video. It's really crazy when you realize whatever was left of the passengers was likely compressed into that debris that was pushed into the titanium end cap.

  • @justinbrown691
    @justinbrown691 7 годин тому

    I continue to appreciate that you are focused on the engineering and not in it just for dunking for lols.

  • @yates6608
    @yates6608 День тому +3

    When that thing imploded it was probably like cannonball shooting body parts, the acrylic glass would have shot off followed by everyone inside, gruesome but not painful

  • @calvinbays9610
    @calvinbays9610 День тому

    Your spot on. A witness that examined everything claimed the glue in the front failed, causing the front titanium piece to cleanly pop off.

  • @kensmith8832
    @kensmith8832 День тому +5

    Knowing carbon fiber, I would never trust my life to carbon fiber in this type of adventure! There is a limit to epoxy. It seems reckless to trust carbon fiber to those pressures! If the carbon fiber was reinforced with titanium rings and titanium plate, it would seem like a real engineer worked on the design. This reminds me of the idea of building a complete engine from carbon fiber, until they found out what heat does to the epoxy.

    • @PeaceMarauder
      @PeaceMarauder День тому

      yeah, when I saw the design while they were searching for the sub I was thinking it needed rings inside.

  • @carlostavaresjr958
    @carlostavaresjr958 18 годин тому +1

    5 grown men were compressed to the rear titanium dome under the carbon fiber, sadly. Remember the sub did make about 28 trips to the titanic prior to the accident. I believe the fatigue on the cabon fiber and lack of inspection is the what resulted into this accident. That sub would have been expired after 5 dives.

  • @birdmannichols939
    @birdmannichols939 День тому +10

    I can’t believe he didn’t use welds but then again the guy fired his engineer lol

  • @paulomendes928
    @paulomendes928 10 годин тому

    Another great video, Jeff! Thanks for keeping in touch!

  • @aToddZY
    @aToddZY День тому +5

    With these parts so tightly grouped together, I assume the accident happened fairly close to the bottom, and not several hundred metres above the floor, as it it was higher up, I’m imagining the pieces would scatter and fan out more…

    • @PeaceMarauder
      @PeaceMarauder День тому +1

      HOwever, those chunks of CF are packed in tight, if it happened higher they would probably still be in that position after reaching the bottom.

    • @aToddZY
      @aToddZY День тому

      @@PeaceMarauder you could very well be right. I would expect the last few moments of this situation, to be very interesting and nervous for the people riding in it. And your theory makes sense also. I do not think that no one really knows the truth of the whole sequence of events. And with this being a one of a kind accidents, I would really like to have more research and understanding at that level of pressure they talk about. That would be extremely interesting to see something like that recreated and filmed somehow, at the same depths. We are both lucky to be here wondering about it together, rather than in the submersible for the ride. Lol

  • @Porschik
    @Porschik 14 годин тому +1

    6:03 The second titanium cone is clean of any carbon fiber because it's a hatch door. It was not supposed to be glued to the hull. I believe it was bolted down.

  • @bellaconcetta8686
    @bellaconcetta8686 День тому +1

    Jeff is truly THE man!

  • @deltasyn7434
    @deltasyn7434 День тому +6

    From the looks of it. It appears that the carbon fibre must have shattered under the pressure causing the tube to implode which forced the tail cone and the front dome to eject outward. Basically like squeezing a milk jug to make the cap pop off. IIRC, that the front dome was fully intact. Maybe they should have used whatever that was made of to build the rest of the sub.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 День тому

      The description in the video is back to front. The rear dome is off by itself.

    • @mattymox86
      @mattymox86 День тому

      Wasn't it titanium? Which is what they kept telling Rush the entire sub had to be made from.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 День тому

      @@mattymox86 The end caps on the Titan were titanium, the rest wound carbon fibre.
      Deep sea submersibles have used steel, aluminium and titanium for the pressure hulls successfully.

    • @hojo70
      @hojo70 15 годин тому +1

      The issue was that the carbon fiber and titanium each expand and contract at different rates, and under the massive pressure that they were repeatedly subjected to it took only a microscopic gap to eventually form which caused a complete decompression failure.

    • @deltasyn7434
      @deltasyn7434 14 годин тому

      @@hojo70 And not only that. You also have the limitations of each material to consider. In the case of carbon fiber, it may have high tensile strength, but it has very low flex tolerance. And thus, it tends to crack or shatter under pressure.
      This is why you don’t see load bearing structures or vessels being made out of carbon fiber.
      Stockton was a dumbass on top of being an absolute monster and a POS as a human being.

  • @FDguy343
    @FDguy343 10 годин тому

    12,391 feet 4.85 inches below the glassy murky surface. Still gives me chills every time I see something like this. Reading "Ocean Gate-Titan" on the side of it, doesn't help.

  • @Jubjub9000
    @Jubjub9000 День тому +8

    I also agree about the glue. It needed maximum surface area. Ideally should've been screwed on aswelll as glued and then bolted, i would think.

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  День тому +8

      you can't pirce the carbon fiber, would cause mini fractures

    • @Jubjub9000
      @Jubjub9000 День тому +1

      @@jeffostroff you're right. Thanks for the great videos. very informative. keep 'em coming :)

    • @williampogue2940
      @williampogue2940 20 годин тому

      jeff is correct the so-called "glue and screw" method is weaker

  • @danieltaon
    @danieltaon 14 годин тому +1

    "And remmember dont miss our video about hanging cabinets in kitchen" 😂😂😂

  • @NorthernChev
    @NorthernChev День тому +3

    Even IF the adhesive held, which I very seriously doubt, carbon fiber and titanium compress at different rates and amounts that you would think would cause the adhesive to tear from differing compressions. This is, of course, if you completely ignore the fact that carbon fiber is designed to resist EXPANSION not compression.

    • @PeaceMarauder
      @PeaceMarauder День тому +1

      This is why I was thinking it needed a ring or 2 inside.

  • @Nxcturnxlx
    @Nxcturnxlx День тому +1

    Its amazing how many people dont understand that the whole titan didnt implode but just the part they where sitting in..

  • @ccchhhrrriiisss100
    @ccchhhrrriiisss100 День тому +3

    Great analysis, Jeff. It seems to me that the failure happened at the connection to the viewing dome. The rapid implosion would then quickly drive the afterpart (i.e., everything after the point of failure) toward the other titanium dome. That might explain why there is so much debris compressed into that dome while the other is completely devoid of any materials. Given the fact that the viewing dome was also the door, it makes me wonder whether that helped hasten the wear of that portion of the sub (and its fiber and/or connection between the titanium dome and the carbon cylinder).

    • @ccchhhrrriiisss100
      @ccchhhrrriiisss100 День тому +2

      In fact, I suspect that the "remains" that were found were found compressed with the rest of the wreckage into that aft titanium dome (which still had the titanium ring partially attached). Thus, everything after of the breach (which seems to have happened at the titanium viewing dome/ring connected to the fiber) imploded in the direction of that viewing dome and everything behind it in the direction of the opposite dome. I'm fairly convinced that the remains were found compressed (with the rest of the wreckage) in that opposite dome.

    • @PeaceMarauder
      @PeaceMarauder День тому

      I believe it failed at the top front or sides of the carbon and forward ring blowing out the view port and forward dome, probably dragging the ring along which fell off at some point. I find that the bottom is intact probably from the air tanks lending extra support but now crushed into the aft section or blown out somewhere.
      I'd like to see a new animation using what we see now.

    • @arwenreis4775
      @arwenreis4775 5 годин тому

      ​@ccchhhrrriiisss100 the forward/viewing dome is off by itself without any debris.

  • @BeckVMH
    @BeckVMH 10 годин тому +1

    Got to ref a video by Dr. Chris Raynor, “Crushed, Burned or Toothpaste…”. He goes into great detail of the speed and destruction of the implosion. Well worth the watch. And thanks Jeff for this video.

  • @aldunk2360
    @aldunk2360 День тому +5

    is that a dang ratchet strap 😂😂

  • @Alexiosftw
    @Alexiosftw 12 годин тому +1

    How ironic that the bits made out of the proper material (titanium) survived almost completely unscathed

  • @Revoncheap
    @Revoncheap День тому +6

    They found the wreckage in the first dive lol

    • @jeffostroff
      @jeffostroff  День тому +4

      yes within 10 minutes of getting to the bottom they saw it

    • @homeonegreen9
      @homeonegreen9 День тому +2

      To be fair they had pretty precise coordinates on where to look.

  • @richardreimer
    @richardreimer 19 годин тому +1

    I wonder if any cell phones were recovered.📱 Thanks Jeff.

  • @akiko009
    @akiko009 День тому +3

    At 4:53 that is indicative of a failure that began at the front of the craft. The pressure vessel collapsed towards the tail. I assume that most of the remains of whatever and whoever was inside the craft is inside that tail pressure dome. RIP.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 День тому +2

      Exactly the wrong way around. The hull is stuffed into the forward dome and its mating flange. The rear dome was glued directly to the hull (no ring).

    • @PeaceMarauder
      @PeaceMarauder День тому

      @@allangibson8494 @6:06 Why is there a groove for a seal in the dome by itself on the ocean floor?

    • @PeaceMarauder
      @PeaceMarauder День тому

      @@allangibson8494 Also @1:45 in the schematic there is a ring aft.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 День тому +1

      @@PeaceMarauder And in the hull assembly video there isn’t.
      The rear dome didn’t have a ring - it had a recess that the hull slipped into.
      The front had a flange to support the forward domed hatch. You can see the hatch locking bolts in the video - they were broken by the hull fragments going through them.
      The hull broke by buckling from the top down (the bottom is almost intact) and the rear bulkhead rotated at about the speed of sound shearing off the attachments to the unpressurised power and support system in the aft cone. The buckled hull was then pushed into the forward hatch shearing the closure fixtures. The landing frame would either have sheared off as this happened or simply dropped as it lost power to the retention system. All this happened in less than 2milliseconds.

    • @Kimber123
      @Kimber123 День тому

      @@allangibson8494 Wow. I could hardly follow much of what you said as it's very technical, but that was really impressive. Thanks!

  • @glenncooper3524
    @glenncooper3524 5 годин тому +1

    An Oceangate employee testified that the rings where the hull was glued to. The front ring inside tab was sheared off all the way around and the aft ring inside tab was partially sheared off. On this video at 7:09 look at the ring being taken off . The plastic covering from 350 degrees ro 300 degrees. Right under the 300 degree part looks like it's sheared there and underneath that it looks like there's more there's a weird 90 degree looks like it's purposely made like that but I don't think so

  • @theAverageJoe25
    @theAverageJoe25 День тому +6

    Notice that all of the parts that were made of titanium and steel remain intact

  • @novtek
    @novtek 23 години тому

    As an engineer, I would suggest that the peanut butter adhesive was more in compression than tension. It was holding rigid parts in place but not together. The incredible pressure was holding the parts together. When the rupture happened, the inside became higher pressure like a blast wave, and that is what popped the titanium ring from the very come adhesive. So, I do not think the adhesive was the point of failure.
    I am not sure what did go wrong, but carbon fiber is like really strong thread. It does well for tension like a space capsule, but not so much for compression like a submarine.

  • @leatherDarkhorse
    @leatherDarkhorse День тому +4

    They really having the full titanic experience

  • @beverleypeacock
    @beverleypeacock День тому +2

    Phew..I've been waiting for what you would show us..Thanks

  • @linkydinkydoodledumplin
    @linkydinkydoodledumplin День тому +11

    So much for all the "experts" who said everything was instantly "vaporized" at that depth.

    • @PeaceMarauder
      @PeaceMarauder День тому +4

      I'd like to see a new animation with the pics to recreate what is seen.

    • @PAS_2020
      @PAS_2020 День тому +2

      @@PeaceMarauderYES - probably somebody will put up a new animation soon - maybe even Jeff.

    • @TerryHickey-xt4mf
      @TerryHickey-xt4mf День тому

      everything?

    • @maryjanedodo
      @maryjanedodo День тому +1

      I think they meant everything organic

    • @famousamoso7
      @famousamoso7 День тому +2

      What in the video shows its wasnt? Everything INSIDE the capsule would have been vaporized while the carbon fiber hull would have been decimated to bits and pieces. Anything that wasnt pressurized would have remained relatively complete.

  • @Saunterisland
    @Saunterisland 9 годин тому

    Fun facts:
    A book was written sometime before the actual Titanic went down. The name of that vessel in the book was Titan.
    Then, Titanic sank, and just over 100 years later, a little twist on the story.
    A submersible by the name Titan is lost just yards away from the Titanic and the name of the CEO:
    Stockton.
    Yup, Rush was related.
    Also, if I may add, that I thought it was the rear glued seal that was the behind the scene culprit. It acted in concert to the carbon fiber matrix.
    It actually appears as though the front seal may have been the one, if not both. However, it was finally the carbon fibers that lost the battle. Incredible amounts of force were involved.
    Physics is Physics!

  • @DannyDeVitois79
    @DannyDeVitois79 22 години тому +4

    Good lord, this is creepy…. I was just hoping not to see any body parts strewn around…..

    • @TravisaInc
      @TravisaInc 19 годин тому

      They cut it for that specific reason

    • @DannyDeVitois79
      @DannyDeVitois79 15 годин тому

      @@TravisaInc - are you speculating,, or know that? Or was it precautionary?

  • @KeytonsChannel
    @KeytonsChannel 5 годин тому

    Bro I am subscribing. This commentary was so thorough I searched everywhere for information and sh*t always seems so cryptic thanks for making it easy

  • @texasgina
    @texasgina День тому +4

    Thank you for posting this! Your video is so much more informative than the news

  • @nbrown5907
    @nbrown5907 День тому +4

    That first part I think what you were seeing was the wire that ran to it. You could see it going from the Titan to the left a bit earlier.

  • @kellykellybumbum
    @kellykellybumbum День тому +1

    Thank you for these updates!
    Such a preventable tragedy...