Wow. Today a cloud right outside my window looked like mount Zion...right there...big and near. Had never seen anything like it. And that actually led me here to watch this. Had no idea any (other) cloud talk would be out an about..other than my own. Let alone from Norm..and your lovely comment here now. All so beautiful. .. Just somehow knew looking at that cloud earlier..The Holy Spirit told my Norm is in Heaven. +🕊 Jesus Saves...and He Loves us..so much.
Norm panics because he's on for a second segment on conan so he casually performs the greatest telling of a joke in the history of mankind. Classic Norm.
Wow. Today a cloud right outside my window looked like mount Zion...right there...big and near. Had never seen anything like it. And that actually led me here to watch this. Had no idea any (other) cloud talk would be out an about..other than my own. Let along from Norm..and you lovely comment here now. All so beautiful. .. Just somehow knew looking at that cloud earlier..The Holy Spirit told my Norm is in Heaven. +🕊 Jesus Saves...and He Loves us..so much.
"The clouds looked like clouds, and nothing else." This long funeral home anecdote ended with a punchline that was wrenching and poignant, and not an actual joke. Norm had to preface the whole bit with the story of sailing for a baby seal just to set up the ending. Really astonishing to me, and brilliant.
I listened to it for the second time and it made my eyes wet. It's so brilliant and so intense. I'm reading the book right now and it's wonderful, so funny and so sad; I feel he's such a profound person, who suffered and felt so much, and it's very much apparent from the book I think
Probably the closest we'll ever come to seeing his true soul, incredible interview and even more incredible to read the comments from years ago, he is a timeless comic hero... RIP Norm
I don’t understand why the horrendous interviewer didn’t at least ask Norm to expound on the fact that he said that kinda happened to me, or anything else from that super long story.. Or when he was telling that rabbi story, what an imbecile, couldn’t do a worse job, A potato would do better
I won't remember Norm from SNL, I think he's been much funnier outside of it. He's made me laugh myself half to death and that's how I would remember him.
small terminally ill Kids can still be evil :-) you should have told them to start at 29:20 when he starts to explain why he extend that 20 sec moth joke to 7 min :-) Norm extends this make a wish Thing with the Little Boy til 50:39..... omg so great..... I just stared at him waiting to say.... this Boy was real jerk ;-) I Love Norm, greatest Storyteller ever
thinkpotato What a considerate posted reply! You have been a very good boy and will find a little something special in your stocking. BS There is no Sanity 🎅! Your dog did not retire to a farm in upstate New York. You were adopted. Who were your real parents? Don't get me started. Gad!sopes
The brilliance of his Moth joke is not the punchline but how he expands and delivers the setup. Similar to various versions of "The Aristocrats" joke, but I think better because both the setup and punchline are superior.
:-) i like this make a wish Thing (which starts about 31:40) even better. He expands this whole Little Boy (White coffin) Story til 50:39.....omg so great. I Love you Norm!!!
The Aristocrats joke is nothing like norms moth joke. In the aristocrats joke, the joke is on the audience….the punchline is quite literally that the audience is laughing at something they don’t understand. Norm was not part of that world. He was like a doctor of comedy, using laughter as medicine, not to mock his audience.
That story about the boy & the white coffin was so poignant to me & had so many layers. It could represent many things: the white coffin could represent purity & the loss of it via unforseeable circumstances. That obtrusive bus who always seems to get in our way so to speak. Also it may represent childhood & our unavoidable transition into adulthood in which we cease to posess that magical wonderment & imagination we once had. Or it can be taken in the literal sense. I heard somewhere that Norm actually had cancer at a very young age & beat it. Perhaps a part of him died along with it. As he says at the end of reading it & gets emotional "something like that happened to me". 51:03 Anyways im just pondering. Guess we'll never know now. Go with God old friend.
@@slomofome14 You are so right. He had a chance to challenge and several times Norm “opened the door for him” but he was afraid to go through. The interviewer was not on the same level as Norm. Few of us are but what a wasted opportunity.
Bucky Toronto Thats kinda weird that youd not be yourself around him. Youre telling us youd just sit there and let norm talk for an hour? You wouldnt joke around with him at all? The interviewer isnt a comedian but dont you joke with people in eveyday life? Of course you do..
I'd like to answer the question to Norm about whether comedy is therapeutic or what? I played volleyball competitively for 25 years. It turns out I played it because I loved to play the game. I wasn't happy the entire time I was playing. Sometimes I was angry. Or frustrated. Or ecstatic. But I know I played because I loved it because at the end of tournaments that we won, I wished there was another team to play. That's why Norm was sad at the end of his sets.
Actually the origin is its just an old joke really. BUT on his first podcast episode super dave tells the moth joke, and just a couple months later norm tells his version on conan.
Norm is our finest living comedian! Interesting why the hosts mic was potted up at least 50% louder than Norms mic. He was a congenial host and obviously enjoyed Norm and seems like a fan; but Norm could’ve used the extra volume.
I never watched SNL, I never heard of Norm until his movie Screwed and I loved it. Loved his TV series. He's not a great actor but darn can he deliver his lines. Fantastic stand-up.
@Donnie Brasco And the guy wanted to be a comedian along side one of the best. Near the end Norm even calls him out on it when he says something and then looks at the guy and says, "do something with that" and the guy has nothing, and then Norm says, "not so easy is it?"
What the old man needs to tell the young man isn't the speed time SEEMS to travel at. After all, it is only our perception. And even worse, it is our MEMORY of our perception. The old man should tell the young man that time DOES travel past no matter what. The end WILL come. Prepare for it. The trick to a successful life is to compromise between preparing for tomorrow and living today. It's an art not a science.
Before we start this evening, here are a million random rules that you will forget immediately and we will have to correct each of you in later. Enjoy your evening.
We are hearing everything through the presenters microphone. I find it hard to believe they didn’t mic him and it is a technical and mixing error but who knows.
Make no mistake, we are in control of this entire interview and you will submit. We have you color coded, branded, and grouped like cattle. Now!...say mooo, say it! bitches!
The guy’s prolly super educated, but he’s clueless when it comes to making conversation.. It’s really a disaster from his end, just God-awful interviewer is what I’m saying
brave of that weirdo to come out with the jewish conspiracy hot outta the gates, mentioning that Norm would have a show had he been "a part of the tribe." As an Armenian Jew, I ask myself, is the borderline incoherent man wrong?
I don't like the interviewer in general, but he actually did a great job here. He had to get into the flow of the session at the start, but I think he did well in this interview. Now what aboot that Norm Macdonald fellow! He's a funny man I tell ya!
Oh you think she was talking to everyone even the in house photographer they hired to film it? Well some people are incredibly stupid so I'm not surprised you and over 20 people think that way.
Why would you mic up the interviewer so much more effectively than the interviewee... why? And then ... why would you based the interview on a discussion with the audience and not mic up the audience? Why? Why do people organisers invite talent only to mock them with such poor production. Norm's trademark is known to be his lousy diction... he gets invited... and he is, by comparison with the loud interviewer, muted... most uncomfortable and wasteful!
How about taking Norm's advice: if you want to see Norm, go and see Norm. Don't moan about content filmed on a camcorder of a _talk_ he did once. I understood every word he said and he clearly enjoyed the venue so what's the problem? Lack of studio lights, front row tracked cameras and mic booms? Pah. This was great.
@@slomofome14 Norm has talked about his serious stage fright many times and it’s the reason he went long periods without performing. I think it’s obvious in this situation that he is at least a little nervous. Look at the difference in his body language here and when he is interviewed on many late night shows for example.
I have my volume set on high and I still can hardly hear Norm. I can hear the interviewer just fine. It must be like pulling teeth to interview Norm. Whatever, I love Norm and miss him immensely.
@@ELECTIONFRAUD-mr5wf He said in the past that he got $3,000 a year for publicly drinking coke, which to be fair he likes drinking just like the next fella'🍻
FUCK_YOU_ALL Tbh I kind of forgot once the acid left. I spent that night watching nothing but Norm and started seeing a connection in all of his interviews/bits, like he had this grand lifelong plan that would just in the end epically waste everyone’s time or something. It’s hard to put into words what was in my head at the time lol. I do feel like i didn’t fully get Norm though before the trip.
Guanjyn no you burnt out moron, you realized he not only has the same delivery and timing for almost every joke he has also told the same joke for the last 30 years. Acid doesn't make you super preceptive, you're also super lame for bragging about it, I understand though you have no real friends to share it with.
Today the clouds really do look like white clouds and nothing else. Rest in peace Normie, the greatest to ever do it.
Wow.
Today a cloud right outside my window looked like mount Zion...right there...big and near.
Had never seen anything like it.
And that actually led me here to watch this.
Had no idea any (other) cloud talk would be out an about..other than my own.
Let alone from Norm..and your lovely comment here now.
All so beautiful.
..
Just somehow knew looking at that cloud earlier..The Holy Spirit told my Norm is in Heaven.
+🕊
Jesus Saves...and He Loves us..so much.
The tickets were sold under the Queensboro Bridge for $15 a man.
Way better than Andy Richter did
The interviewer was Loud but you cant hear Norm at all. Pathetic
Norm panics because he's on for a second segment on conan so he casually performs the greatest telling of a joke in the history of mankind. Classic Norm.
He’s authentic and the most peculiar disciple of Christ I’ve ever seen.
Wow.
Today a cloud right outside my window looked like mount Zion...right there...big and near.
Had never seen anything like it.
And that actually led me here to watch this.
Had no idea any (other) cloud talk would be out an about..other than my own.
Let along from Norm..and you lovely comment here now.
All so beautiful.
..
Just somehow knew looking at that cloud earlier..The Holy Spirit told my Norm is in Heaven.
+🕊
Jesus Saves...and He Loves us..so much.
This was Norm at his most beautiful & captivating.
I hope Norm receives the Mark Twain award someday.
"I hope Norm receives the Mark Twain award someday." Well, Leno got it, so...
He’s the new Mark Twain.
He is Mark Twain !
He deserves it more than anyone, which maybe says something. The powers that be still can't accept him, just like Mark Twain in his day?
Hes not woke enough
That girl KILLED those Book Signing instructions in the beginning, WOW!!!! What a BOSS!!!!
i host events and have to give instructions...i thought the same thing, you must talk the instructions, not blandly read.
Getting fired from SNL was probably the best thing that ever happened to Norm. He still gets attention from it.
He would’ve been successful regardless... at least i assume he would
"The clouds looked like clouds, and nothing else." This long funeral home anecdote ended with a punchline that was wrenching and poignant, and not an actual joke. Norm had to preface the whole bit with the story of sailing for a baby seal just to set up the ending. Really astonishing to me, and brilliant.
I listened to it for the second time and it made my eyes wet. It's so brilliant and so intense. I'm reading the book right now and it's wonderful, so funny and so sad; I feel he's such a profound person, who suffered and felt so much, and it's very much apparent from the book I think
Agreed. Perfectly put.
Norm is a beautiful soul. I hope he graces this earth for many more years, or at least experiences minimal pain to the end of his days.
Yeah that part of the book really showcases Norm’s ability as a writer. Loved it
@@GrinningAries ;_;
We loved you Norm. You will be missed.
54:10 Norm reads "The Final Chapter". Honest, touching and funny. Sounds like a self eulogy.
You were right in the money my man. Rest easy Norm. I Love you so much.
There is no better master of the set up. Don't quip with this man! There is no way to win!
a real meeting of the mind
Gotta love this whole 'stream of consciousness' thing...
“Roses are gray, violets are gray, lilacs are gray, because I’m a dog.” Ha, ha, ha....love Norm!
Probably the closest we'll ever come to seeing his true soul, incredible interview and even more incredible to read the comments from years ago, he is a timeless comic hero... RIP Norm
"And in the sky there were white clouds, and they all looked like white clouds and nothing else."
Beautiful. Can't wait for norms next book.
Listening to this it's a damn shame there weren't more books, but glad at least one.
I don’t understand why the horrendous interviewer didn’t at least ask Norm to expound on the fact that he said that kinda happened to me, or anything else from that super long story.. Or when he was telling that rabbi story, what an imbecile, couldn’t do a worse job, A potato would do better
I think he wrote this book with his condition in mind, so that would've been the last one anyway.
I’m so glad he read The Final Chapter publicly. It was beautiful. Much love Normie, I hope you’re at peace.
I won't remember Norm from SNL, I think he's been much funnier outside of it. He's made me laugh myself half to death and that's how I would remember him.
I’m very sorry you laughed yourself to death. RIP Tony.
I think he was funniest towards the end of his career, which is good because most people decline
"If you're at the table and rollin those bones, there's no money in playing it safe". The storey of his life.
Observations on life. With a funny twist. The most beautiful kind of humor. You left us a treasure, Norm. May your memory be blessed. Rest easy.
I wished they turned up Norm's mike and turned the interviewer's mic way down.
Fallon staffers would cry even more.
💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦
Maskof- you are so right. I had to hold the ipod
to my ear to hear Norm for God’s sake.
@@RickDeckardMemories ??
Actually, turning the other guy’a mic off would be best
@@slomofome14???
I sent this to some friends and told them to start at 31:40 to listen to the make a wish story. They didn’t get it...
I need smarter friends.
small terminally ill Kids can still be evil :-) you should have told them to start at 29:20 when he starts to explain why he extend that 20 sec moth joke to 7 min :-) Norm extends this make a wish Thing with the Little Boy til 50:39..... omg so great..... I just stared at him waiting to say.... this Boy was real jerk ;-) I Love Norm, greatest Storyteller ever
Laura Heath if you need to explain monty python then just get new friends,
I'll be your friend although I hear you're a real jerk.
What the hell is there to get? I think its all obvious. You really need smarter friends haha
@@nicosmind3 People just like to pat themselves on the back for ''getting'' Norm.
The guy who isn’t norm can go from a genuine laugh to a dead serious funeral face in an instant.
Norm starts at 13:15
Yes, but the incredible complimentary and beautiful introduction starts at 8:30
RealCoolGuy Yes, good! Just saw Norm at Caroline's on Broadway in NYC. He killed
Thank you!
thinkpotato What a considerate posted reply! You have been a very good boy and will find a little something special in your stocking. BS There is no Sanity 🎅! Your dog did not retire to a farm in upstate New York. You were adopted. Who were your real parents? Don't get me started. Gad!sopes
Thanks.
Help! I can't stop watching Norm
This was simply a wonderful video
Rest easy u genius
How can this video only have 248 likes?!? I love Norm and thoroughly enjoyed his book.
Maybe because the sound is horrible.
can someone timestamp Norm saying "aren't you a fucking writer!?", please?
What a fucking genius he is.
2 years later you finally get a response 😂 …
Try the 23 min mark. That’s a good starting point.
@@marioramos9006 tnx. now i'm just sad because he ded
Norm is so humble. I thought I was humble. I told everyone that I was the best, greatest, most humblest man in the whole world.
That make a wish kid story at 32:39 is gold.
Too bad the interviewer doesn’t know how to interview.. Norm tells like a 10-15 minute story then bam, next question.. What?
how can absolutely anything a man says be so fucking funny.
The brilliance of his Moth joke is not the punchline but how he expands and delivers the setup. Similar to various versions of "The Aristocrats" joke, but I think better because both the setup and punchline are superior.
:-) i like this make a wish Thing (which starts about 31:40) even better. He expands this whole Little Boy (White coffin) Story til 50:39.....omg so great. I Love you Norm!!!
The Aristocrats joke is nothing like norms moth joke. In the aristocrats joke, the joke is on the audience….the punchline is quite literally that the audience is laughing at something they don’t understand. Norm was not part of that world. He was like a doctor of comedy, using laughter as medicine, not to mock his audience.
13:13 is when it actually starts...lots of dead air for 13 minutes
That story about the boy & the white coffin was so poignant to me & had so many layers. It could represent many things: the white coffin could represent purity & the loss of it via unforseeable circumstances. That obtrusive bus who always seems to get in our way so to speak. Also it may represent childhood & our unavoidable transition into adulthood in which we cease to posess that magical wonderment & imagination we once had. Or it can be taken in the literal sense. I heard somewhere that Norm actually had cancer at a very young age & beat it. Perhaps a part of him died along with it. As he says at the end of reading it & gets emotional "something like that happened to me". 51:03
Anyways im just pondering. Guess we'll never know now.
Go with God old friend.
Could’ve gotten to dig into these answers, especially the “happened to me” part, but this is the shittiest interviewer I’ve personally ever witnessed
@@slomofome14 You are so right. He had a chance to challenge and several times Norm “opened the door for him” but he was afraid to go through. The interviewer was not on the same level as Norm. Few of us are but what a wasted opportunity.
“Aren’t you a writer?” 😂
^fuckin
This interviewer was trying to be funny whilst sitting across from the funniest man on the planet. A fool's endeavour.
Kamran Eh, Yes deafeningly unfunny interviewer while we strain to hear Norm's brilliance. If only the audio levels were reversed!
Bucky Toronto Thats kinda weird that youd not be yourself around him. Youre telling us youd just sit there and let norm talk for an hour? You wouldnt joke around with him at all? The interviewer isnt a comedian but dont you joke with people in eveyday life? Of course you do..
Mark you'll have to bear with him, he thinks it's all about what he wants
Pretty Jewy of him for sure.
Are you William Shakespeare?
Norm is a gracious dude...
life is swift and yet we are blind to its mighty splendor
Norm's writing puts me in mind of Melville, Twain, Bukowski and Sam Shepard. Pure Menschatude...!
This has to be the best interview Norm has ever given.
Norm is the greatest comedian of all time.
Norm makes me feel good to be a fellow Canadian.
It doesn't matter what Lined area you born in.
Norm is so vigorously expressive, I hope he writes more tomes.
I'd like to answer the question to Norm about whether comedy is therapeutic or what? I played volleyball competitively for 25 years. It turns out I played it because I loved to play the game. I wasn't happy the entire time I was playing. Sometimes I was angry. Or frustrated. Or ecstatic. But I know I played because I loved it because at the end of tournaments that we won, I wished there was another team to play. That's why Norm was sad at the end of his sets.
If Norm had watched this preamble to his appearance, re: blue, pink sticky notes and lining up he'd have made a mad bit about it for sure.
The origins of the Moth Joke. Now, that's a fucking bombshell.
Greg Gotti wrong. The moth joke is super Dave Osborne joke
Actually the origin is its just an old joke really. BUT on his first podcast episode super dave tells the moth joke, and just a couple months later norm tells his version on conan.
If any of the misguided 36 dislikes for this video can personally email me, or call, to discuss, that would be fantastic. Many thanks.
Norm is our finest living comedian! Interesting why the hosts mic was potted up at least 50% louder than Norms mic. He was a congenial host and obviously enjoyed Norm and seems like a fan; but Norm could’ve used the extra volume.
RIP Norm.
Funny how the very best die young and their mic volume is too low.
Norm's my hero. I am eating Count Chochula from NOW ON!!!!
I never watched SNL, I never heard of Norm until his movie Screwed and I loved it. Loved his TV series. He's not a great actor but darn can he deliver his lines. Fantastic stand-up.
interviewers mic is louder than norms...and its annoying
@Donnie Brasco And the guy wanted to be a comedian along side one of the best. Near the end Norm even calls him out on it when he says something and then looks at the guy and says, "do something with that" and the guy has nothing, and then Norm says, "not so easy is it?"
What the old man needs to tell the young man isn't the speed time SEEMS to travel at. After all, it is only our perception. And even worse, it is our MEMORY of our perception. The old man should tell the young man that time DOES travel past no matter what. The end WILL come. Prepare for it. The trick to a successful life is to compromise between preparing for tomorrow and living today. It's an art not a science.
Thank you for uploading.
thank you for posting this!
The humblest man, funniest too
I think norm loves tourtering people with his long dark yet humorous stories lol
RIP Norm. Gone too soon.
I hope the interviewer went home and looked up the definition of "scapegrace"
I cried. His message was about him about to die.
I'm completely in love with Norm's brain.
We love you Norm!
The whole time he never turned a page of that book lol.
Before we start this evening, here are a million random rules that you will forget immediately and we will have to correct each of you in later. Enjoy your evening.
Marlee Matlin the deaf comedian must have been the sound engineer.
We are hearing everything through the presenters microphone. I find it hard to believe they didn’t mic him and it is a technical and mixing error but who knows.
"i was a bit of a 'scrapegrace' ....more a criminal drifter" haha!
Awesome = Norm MacDonald.
Can’t believe he squeezed an “explain to the folks” into this at 1:03:10
God I wish I could have met Norm. Chris & Norm, best comedians of all time.
Camera is still for an hour and 20 minutes. Pans for the last 3 questions
Norm is a gentleman and a scholar
Make no mistake, we are in control of this entire interview and you will submit. We have you color coded, branded, and grouped like cattle. Now!...say mooo, say it! bitches!
This is possibly the greatest Norm interview of all time. Too bad he wasn’t miked well.
19:40 Norm hits em with the truth about everyone having a super high arbitrary wage
Norm owned the stage with his wit! This cat interviewing him was way out of his league! Another tribute to the brilliant mind of Norm!
The guy’s prolly super educated, but he’s clueless when it comes to making conversation.. It’s really a disaster from his end, just God-awful interviewer is what I’m saying
brave of that weirdo to come out with the jewish conspiracy hot outta the gates, mentioning that Norm would have a show had he been "a part of the tribe."
As an Armenian Jew, I ask myself, is the borderline incoherent man wrong?
Anyone have the answer to his question for the Rabbi on God leading us into temptation?
Seriously… This dude should have just sat there in silence. It would have been infinitely better than the shit job he did
That boy was very brave.
I don't like the interviewer in general, but he actually did a great job here. He had to get into the flow of the session at the start, but I think he did well in this interview.
Now what aboot that Norm Macdonald fellow! He's a funny man I tell ya!
20:12 :-) this cocaine is not working..... LMAO
Thank you.
Starts around the 14 minute mark
A great talent
"The Final Chapter." I've been lucky.
"Filming of tonight's event is not permitted"
It's obvious they meant they could film it but you can't. You and 7 other people don't think things through. :{3
Oh you think she was talking to everyone even the in house photographer they hired to film it? Well some people are incredibly stupid so I'm not surprised you and over 20 people think that way.
Ulrik Vetland, I chuckled when the lady said that. 🙂
@@tetsuoswrath Oh no no this was just filmed on a mobile phone by someone with a very, very, very, very steady hand
@@GrinningAries that guy sounds like a real jerk! :{J
Great editing
Final Chapter. Remarkable.
I was enjoying the Norm Macdonald sign
Why would you mic up the interviewer so much more effectively than the interviewee... why? And then ... why would you based the interview on a discussion with the audience and not mic up the audience? Why? Why do people organisers invite talent only to mock them with such poor production. Norm's trademark is known to be his lousy diction... he gets invited... and he is, by comparison with the loud interviewer, muted... most uncomfortable and wasteful!
Norm is talking very quiet because he is really nervous
How about taking Norm's advice: if you want to see Norm, go and see Norm. Don't moan about content filmed on a camcorder of a _talk_ he did once.
I understood every word he said and he clearly enjoyed the venue so what's the problem? Lack of studio lights, front row tracked cameras and mic booms? Pah. This was great.
@@soulfuzz368 so its NOT the guy who cant sit still and is red in the face?
@@soulfuzz368 Umm no he’s not… Have you learned what that word means?
@@slomofome14 Norm has talked about his serious stage fright many times and it’s the reason he went long periods without performing. I think it’s obvious in this situation that he is at least a little nervous. Look at the difference in his body language here and when he is interviewed on many late night shows for example.
I have my volume set on high and I still can hardly hear Norm. I can hear the interviewer just fine. It must be like pulling teeth to interview Norm. Whatever, I love Norm and miss him immensely.
RIP Norm. Not murdered in a well
Norm drinking his $3,000 coke.
?
Famous people coke
@@ELECTIONFRAUD-mr5wf He said in the past that he got $3,000 a year for publicly drinking coke, which to be fair he likes drinking just like the next fella'🍻
Watched this on acid last night and finally understood what Norm is actually doing in all of his comedy.
FUCK_YOU_ALL Tbh I kind of forgot once the acid left. I spent that night watching nothing but Norm and started seeing a connection in all of his interviews/bits, like he had this grand lifelong plan that would just in the end epically waste everyone’s time or something. It’s hard to put into words what was in my head at the time lol. I do feel like i didn’t fully get Norm though before the trip.
Guanjyn no you burnt out moron, you realized he not only has the same delivery and timing for almost every joke he has also told the same joke for the last 30 years. Acid doesn't make you super preceptive, you're also super lame for bragging about it, I understand though you have no real friends to share it with.
snavis Chill down, sped.
Guanjyn its "calm down" or "chill out" two super common English expressions.
@@snavisTM Chill down.
Skip to 13:18
32:39 terminally ill child story
Rime of the Sadistic Kiddo
I recently heard John Lovits tell an interviewer that Norm had cancer as a child. Is he telling an anecdote about himself?
13:15. You're welcome!
have a dictionary on stand by when listening to norm speak