Another fantastic and informative video on this little understood subject. What's alarming to me is, the complete lack of understanding of these disorders by our courts. For example, I had a case with a fully and repeat diagnosed psychopathic mother and sociopathic father, both diagnosed ASPD, with those specific presentations in their psych evals. The courts ignored this completely, kept trying to reunify their highly abused two year old with them after five of their previous children had been removed and their parental rights severed for abuse (three year case, no, they did not win but what a slog). There are many of these types of cases, this is just one that stood out. These diagnoses are completely ignored in both criminal and administrative actions. In criminal cases, it's ignored in sentencing. They are sentenced without the consideration of likeliness to re-offend in the same... or worse, ways. Incurable and untreatable. It is great what you are doing Scott, educating people about this. The devastation they cause in society is one thing, the devastation they cause to those closest to them is quantum. Thank you.
Thank u 4 sharing. Maybe this help to know that i hear u. So do many others. Life is supposed to be a mystery. Just not of the sadists who are prevalent nt on this planet or plane.
@@marycallenfu Thank you for your kind response, Mary. I read a theory that life is about seeking, finding, and sharing joy. I don't know if it's true, but that's where I'm heading! 🙂
@rynneivarsson751 yes! i grew up with a psychopathic father & sociopathic mother. my childhood was living through one terrifying event to the next. every day was a game of survival. school was my only reprieve. i was literally terrified every day and night of my life. no one to turn to, and no escape. it affects me every minute of the day, and there is still no escape from the constant memories/flashbacks of horrific abuse.
What do you think of the Sarah Boone case? I see: 1. Lack of remorse, guilt and empathy; 2. Trophy gathering: the videos. I think she took them to gloat over them later, and relive what she did to Jorge. Also, she wanted his ring back to keep as a reminder of what she did, for that was all that was left of him; 3. Blatant, off the charts NARCISSISM; 4. Pathological lying; 4. Joy evidenced in her torturing of Jorge. The most chilling part of the suitcase videos was when Sarah sighed in satisfaction as Jorge begged for his life and said, “Yea.” The list goes on. I am amazed that the Court has not ordered her to have a psychological test. She has been tested by experts by both sides, but an unbiased series of exams that would detect psychopathy.
@@tamararutland-mills9530 The one I knew well was wired differently. She claimed four victims, three of which I personally know of. These were done in a moment of complete rage, however, she normally did not do her own wet work. She instead blackmailed or manipulated others to do it for her. Ms. Boone is def antisocial, but whether that leans more toward Sociopathy we can't know. There is no "one" type of any of these. There's predominate traits and a mindset, but their individual limits of what they will and won't do... No book on that one.
That gut feeling about someone is so relatable. I do think we women get that gut instinct, but I also think we tend to shrug it off. I've certainly done it. We want to give people the benefit of the doubt, and we just discount our instinct. And it's never wrong! I'm learning, at my advanced age, to start listening to it. Also, can we just start a Scott Rouse Fan Club? He seems like such a sweet person.
Everyone should read the book "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin deBecker. It's a classic, and once you read it you'll never think of things the same way again. I've owned dozens of copies over the years, and given all of them away to people who need to read it. If I could choose just ONE book to give to young women who are starting to date, this would be the one.
I know, like it's being rude to protect yourself, when that gut instinct kicks in. So what, if someone thinks we're rude or weird, or whatever, as long as we're safe.
Women were raised that way, in some ways, still are. Being told that the key to a good marriage is to always compromise and go along to get along. From the time they're girls, women are trained that their concerns or complaints don't matter and no one wants to hear them. Punished for speaking out, speaking truth, it sets up that dynamic to be a predator's first choice.
My husband and I had a narcissist who injected themselves into our family. I really wish we had known how to deal with them ! We tried reasoning with them for hours! If only we had known to butter them up and feed their ego! Life would have been so much easier. Thank you for this gem of a lesson Scott. We are prepared for it should it come up in the future. Thank you Scott
@@22ergie hey thanks so much for taking the time to post that. It's not to often a stranger goes out of there way to post a POSITIVE comment. My experience lately is utube people tad bit cranky these days. N heaven for id u say they the wrong darn thing then everyone comes jumping at ya trying to correct u r say ur wrong or r just plane negative. That's rather annoying. So thanks u very much for making time to say something kind to a stranger. N I will have a great day n because of reading ur comment n ur positive energy I'm off to a great start. Much love n keep up the positive vibes. The world is lucky n I'm thankful for people like u...... 💕
i grew up with a psychopathic father & sociopathic mother. my childhood was living through one terrifying event to the next. every day was a game of survival. school was my only reprieve. i was literally terrified every day and night of my life. no one to turn to, and no escape. he constantly threatened to kill me if i were to speak to anyone about anything. his threats were reinforced with violence and constant psychological torture. it affects me every minute of the day, and there is still no escape from the continuous memories/flashbacks of horrific abuse.
There are two things that may help people in spotting a psychopath (serial killer), which I gleaned from reading the book, “The Stranger Beside Me” about Bundy: 1. Their eyes will go black (dilated pupils) in response to someone’s fear or pain. (Do their pupils dilate greater than others do?) 2. Your pet will HATE them. (Perhaps because they can smell death on them.) I like what you said about psychopaths/narcissists making you feel great, like you made a new best friend, yet you come away with an icky feeling. I work with a narcissist and he totally love bombed me in the beginning. I did come away with that feeling of ick. I also realized that I answered too many inappropriate questions, such as how much I pay for my mortgage, which he has since used to make diminishing comments. I need to learn how to deal with the everyday narcissist/psychopath. I get very scared and freeze due to my past experiences with them. Learning to manage them by treating them like an ego will be a helpful tactic .
If you can afford your mortgage, how can he make comments that make you feel bad? You do you! And if it is more than you can afford, I heard the Fed just lowered interest rates, so you could look into refinancing to something more affordable these days. Either way, his comments should not make you feel bad for whatever you're paying on your mortgage. That's your business and your choice. Ignore his nonsense.
@@SuzyQ-vg3tc somehow learn to carry the weight of any feelings of shame, guilt and pain. Its fear of feeling these that pins us to the wall but if such feelings are embraced, acknowledged & pretty much forgotten in a healthy way of laying aside every weight of sin that so easily can seem to land - right where we're about to go - if we can treat success & failure with a bit of detachment... we won't be too worried what 1 other person out of- what is it now? 8 billion people? People who matter dont mind And people who mind Don't matter 🙂😑🥰
I was attacked and held by a man for 20 hours. In his attack mode, his eyes were black. I later assumed his pupils were dilated while in this attack trance. Really terrifying.
When you said that you find narcissists in a group fascinating, I laughed when you said: "Not like in a nest." Since they're creatures of darkness, I have this theory that they hang upside down from cave ceilings like bats. I used to work with a narc and he was absolutely nasty - he tried to get me fired. Sadly for him, it didn't work. Narcs are deeply unhappy inside and can't stand seeing anyone else happy. So they try to drag you down - any way they can. So watch out for that, and don't let them succeed. 😃
@@bobbarker1798 - a lot of narcs are manipulative liars and those are dark personality traits for sure. So is their need to have control over everyone around them. Also putting others down in order to feel good about themselves. I find all of these things absolutely pathetic.
I agree I mean you'd think that maybe just maybe one of them would finally connect the dots and see the benefits of ditching the immaturity or try enjoying having a really good reputation that they earned by using integrity. I always wish they would become addicted to just being authentic but nope I am wrong every time. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that they absolutely would rather remain doing exactly as they are and have no intentions of ever changing it.
@@TawnyJenkins-td5gl - yeah, I find that very sad, too. Most narcs are incapable of changing. A small percentage are self-aware and realize that they're narcs. Some of that small percentage do actually try to improve themselves with therapy and kudos to them for trying.
Lol, there are a lot of reasons for the "psychopath" stare. Not being properly socialized made me do that, as well as severe dissociation to the point that I didn't know I was staring.
Scott-you, Greg, Chase, and Mark are the most humblest TEACHERS I have ever sat to listen to. This is what I like about you four-you are very intelligent in your field, yet you all teach humbly. It’s a spirit of humbleness that is present in your videos.
My ex who killed all my sons pet pigeons in front of our 9 year old, the night I asked him to leave openly admitted to having no emotions and had zero empathy. He was cruel & callous and as you say Scott, had zero care or concern for our son, constantly saying 'he's fine, he's ok' when he clearly wasn't. He used to watch me whilst I was watching tv, became quite creepy. Is that a psychopath stare? I used to think he was a narcissist but more and more thinking he's a psychopath. Dumped his kid after raising him for 10 years when he split. Said he was too busy.
Psychopath stare is when they look at someone right in the eyes and make the person uncomfortable, but continue to stare because they don't know it makes people uncomfortable. It's often a total stranger, not a particular person.
It might be that they are empty vessels so they have empty vacant eyes. More than likely, he was trying to make u feel fear. Then he owns u. He thinks.
That's so interesting and funny when you said that when you were learning about psychopathy you thought everybody was a psychopath and it scared the sh....t out of you because you didn't know enough about it. I've been watching a lot of these kinds of videos over the years as a result of my parents' horrific marriage, and I feel like I don't know who is what anymore, including myself! 😂😂😂
Start small. Pick three things in your home that bring you peace, pride, or joy. What do you like? What do you dislike? Examine and own your thoughts, especially the subconscious, inner dialog. Hold those thoughts accountable, understand why you think it. Is that thought useful to you? How does it behave? Is it a nag, a punisher, a toxic harpy? Get rid of it. Take a journey, learn yourself. Best wishes on your path!
You're so right! I've noticed that narcissist flock together. I got stuck in a whole nest of them at one time. That they come in clusters is another reason to get away from them.
My narcissists love to call me and ask advice and then tell me why I am wrong!!! LoL I got tired of that so I started quoting textbooks, and now they stopped calling. The last question was: I'm I safe touching downed power lines...Hell No!!!
I’ve taught myself to show no fear even in specifically scary situations. People who come off as psychopaths, or who may be looking to press fear into others, non showing of fear makes them stop. They can’t get what they want so they won’t press further. Luckily fear is a choice response when you’ve exercised it and understand it only lives in your head.
I’ve watched so much of Scott’s material, that now when I watch tv and a character gets hurt and I catch myself wincing along in pain, now I think to myself, “yay, I’m not a psychopath!” 👏🏽 😂
Once, I had a cat I’m convinced was a psychopath. He loved terrorising the other cats as well as the chooks and the goat in a particularly evil way then smirk at their panic.
I agree , they can be very dominate , less than humble . I adopted a Simes cat he was horrible would attack me from behind . He new l had second thoughts about ..
After seeing the first section of your video, UA-cam suggested I see film footage of teenager's reactions to their [murder] sentences. The additional information put things into perspective. I am grateful to learn from you even if I go at a slower pace.
You're looking awfully handsome today, Scott. Tell your wife not to worry, I'm part of 'the L world'. PS) Been with you guys since the beginning. Love your, and the B.H.'s videos! ~Laura in EU.
Scott, I really appreciate your time and skill in this video. I’m more accustomed to the quick clips of the Behavior Panel, so I’ve been trying to catch up on you guys with your individual videos, too! Having been the unfortunate and unwitting victim of a psychopathic narcissist, I am now in the research mode of trying to learn as much as possible about their characteristics because I do not ever wish to make the mistake of being in a relationship with one again. (Alright, guys, I think this is another good one! 😉 )
I'm just discovering that my mom was a psychopath. No empathy, no feelings. I never saw her truly happy. She did take great delight in anyone's misfortune. That's the only time I saw her laugh. She had no compassion. Didn't care about us or really anyone else. Very bitter and resentful.
I'm suspicious about my mother too. Mine was definitely narcissisti & sadistic. Many pets disappeared or died prematurely. I wish family were able to access mental health diagnosis.
Your so good at decribing a psychopath. Ive been with one for so many years. I dont think anyone I've ever met in comparison to him. I see the hollowness with like no feelings whatsoever. My thought is he's so cunning so tough to expose of the sinister mindset. I believe he an expert at not even letting family know how he operates. Interesting at how you explain the brain and I'll checkot the books as sounds interesting. After years I see what you mean about the difference. Thank you for all the information!!
I space out and I remember as a kid a girl would freak out and say I was staring at her in class. To me I wasn’t even aware of her presence, I just have ADHD. Remember that not all staring is a psychopathic stare. Could be spacing out or neurodivergent masking. I personally have social anxiety too so eye contact can be uncomfortable, but sometimes I get paranoid that I’m giving toooo much eye contact when masking and then I get stuck in my own head about the right amount of eye contact and not able to focus on the conversation as well as I like.
Yep! I stare sometimes but my mind is just somewhere else. When I come to, I respectfully look away. I wonder how many people thought I was a sociopath. 😂😂😂
My dad was a narc, i look back at all the times he tried to kill me, where it would have liked like an "accident" eg abandoning me on a beach when i was 3, just negligent parenting. I then married a narc who has done the same to me and my sons. These are very dangerous people, they then kill you as you grow up, their children suffer poor health, drug addictions etc.
Scott, Gotta confess that I can't take much of your in depth analysis of psychopaths and narcissists in one sitting. Fascinating? Yes. Seeing your enthusiasm for what's going on in someone's brain? So cool. But learning about cold, hard-hearted people can be too much for me. I like to be around real people who care about others and don't play games. / Your comment about "your person" (talking about your wife) was the sweetest thing to hear in your entire video. My grandparents were best friends for 70 years. / Next time you talk about your office spaces and you wonder out loud why Mark doesn't change the look of his office, could you let your audience in the joke of why Mark doesn't change his space? I didn't know Mark was using a green screen. I tend to think that people use green screens when making a film or doing the nightly news. Boy, did I get an education. :-) Thank you.
Well, if you can’t take what I’m talking about, but I get specific about one thing, and one sitting, you should probably find another channel to learn about body language from. And Mark’s background is not a green screen. On some of the videos, if you watch any of our behavior panel shows, you’ll see him walk out of the room, which would make that virtually impossible unless you were a huge movie company.
@@ScottRouse Scott, I wasn't complaining at all. Just sharing. I have to take the truth you possess in chunks. There's a lot to think about. / One of your assistants commented on and laughed at me for sharing how much I liked Mark's office. She was the one who told me it was a green screen. I had no clue. I missed the episode she mentioned where Mark revealed that he was using a fake background. When I've watched TBP you all have been siting down the entire time. Since your assistant opened my eyes, I'm more aware of computer generated backgrounds - a good thing.
@@ScottRouse As you peel back the layers of different personality traits, it starts to become painful because you may be describing a family member. I keep pressing forward. I keep learning. I'm after the truth. Keeping talking because I'm still listening.
@@katherinerourke8927 you can do like me when I’m feeling overwhelmed with it. Just watch a little at a time, then find something that’s easier on the heart and mind to take a break and come back for a little more. It tends to take me 2-3 days to watch a 1 hour video sometimes depending on my mindset and what I have going on atm.
Great video! Very interesting topic and this is actually the first time I actually begin to understand the basics of these conditions. English is my second language and I appreciate your usage of easy-to-understand words!
Very good, informative informal tutorial. Thank you so much. Have seen that stare, once. Guy became a stalker too. He was terrorising a couple others as well. When the senior detective contacted me to say they found and arrested him, the D said to me over the phone and much to my relief: "We've got Stupid" 😅
When I was a little girl, we traveled by train lots to go places and there was always man who would do this to me. He always stared to the point I would bury my face behind my mother and hide. I dreaded seeing him and he did it every time I’d see him. I’ll never forget it.
Dexter wasn't accurate, because the audience doesn't want to hear that kids can be "born bad". That implies that it could happen to them, too. People also love a redemption arc in a story. I don't think that Dexter had feelings, I think that his dad drilled "The Code" into him, so Dexter could kill in ways that his dad would find acceptable. Without his early childhood training, I think that Dexter would have killed anyone that inconvenienced him and never thought twice. Another thing that The Code taught him, was how to hide the evidence.
When I was in the 4th AND 5th grade in school (also some teachers in high school did this) I had a teacher, and she would get onto me or another student. Afterwards she would STARE at me. I couldn’t STAND the way she wld STARE-it made me uncomfortable and I wld squirm. It took i while before I strtd noticing she had power to make me feel uncomfortable, and so in grade school about the fifth grade if I got mad at a friend I started staring at them and IT WORKED! Done it all my life until about the last probably five yrs I have stopped. The state a psychopath does is a type of enquirers stare. Scott I know you are saying stuff-but still it’s a totally different stare. It’s like one still trying to understand, and I also wld like to add-I have watched a person try to copy tears and heartbreak in a video, but didn’t work here
My dad has a stare that feels like he is staring into your soul all of our friends were scared of him. After years of learning he is autistic and he doesn't know how to regulate eye contact.
The psychopathic stare... GAH! I'm fairly certain my ex-husband has undiagnosed BPD, but I tried talking to him about how the way he looked at me during conversations would make me feel uncomfortable. I literally couldn't hold eye contact with him for long because I would get severely creeped out. It was this wide/rounded eyed, intense sort of look and he didn't blink. No matter how I tried to communicate how I felt, he couldn't seem to stop doing it.
@thislittleweirdgirl332 my mother did that. No expression, no matter what unless someone got hurt or humiliated then she laughed. Just a wide-eyed, unblinking stare.
I was really shocked early on in the presentation - psychopaths tend NOT to be narcissists ; psychopaths genuinely don’t care what people think about them and narcissists rely on others for validation
I know a young psychopath - no fear, no empathy, that stare, wants to harm animals and mimicking. Loves to try to get you to show fear. Never smiles which is so weird. Just wondering if a need for continued stimulus is a trait? Do they know they are psychopaths?
A sociopath really is an antisocial creature that doesn't give a crap about anyone else and will rob and steal from anyone, habitual criminals. They just can't abide by the system, rebels to the end. But they don't necessarily lack emotions. The psychopath is much darker down the triad and has zero empathy, they're absolutely predators. People are just objects to them and killing is the excitement they need because they lack the emotions. Bottom line, sociopaths generally come from poor upbringing and lack impulse control. Whereas psychopaths lack emotion and empathy and are manipulative, predators on a mission.
A psychologist friend of mine explained it to me like so: - A primary psychopath does not care one whit if you like or dislike them. It makes no difference. But, they require your absolute obedience and that you sing their praises and serve their agenda at all times. They are not emotionally reactionary usually, more calculating and have no remorse. It's fun to watch them at funerals, it's like a fish on dry land. - A sociopath cares that you don't like them, they care too much actually. Some will kill you for that. They are emotionally reactionary and have no remorse. It's not fun to watch them anywhere, ever. They spend much of their time scanning for perceived threats to their own conjured existence.
@@Dougwarren69 So do psychopaths and sociopaths. One psychopath I knew well murdered four over time that I knew of, but rarely did her own wet work. She normally blackmailed or manipulated others into doing it for her. The base was that all things and beings either served her, or they were worthless, meaningless. Black and white. Sort of a saner Manson in a designer suit. Some are CEO's of large entities. Some live under overpasses. However as a general rule, they do not care how anyone feels about anything, only how they serve, or don't serve their own needs.
Oh...😅❤ I was doing the Hare psychopathy checklist wrong. It said it was a test, so I just took it. I didn't think to apply it to other people I know. Thanks, Scott. That makes a lot more sense. ❤
Scott Rouse, you made me bust out laughing at the 45:51 timestamp 🤣 your humor is greatly appreciated 😂 Thanks for the video & clarification on psychopaths !!
Funny he mentioned the Hollywood narcissist thing. I have a family member who is a narcissist, and she is a washed-up Hollywood actress who is still clinging to Hollywood as it circles the drain. She loves to name-drop and is good friends with a very famous female musician. She is always talking about her and things they do together, and it is quite funny, if not totally nauseating. She even tries to get me to hang out with them, which I never have any desire to do. She cannot understand that. She even has pictures of herself all over her house with famous people from the parties they have. It is sad. Everyone I know who becomes an actor or actress trying to get into Hollywood is usually a narcissist, I have found. It seems to attract evil people, or at least people who desperately need their egos fed. I.e., shallow, hollow people who lack true self-awareness or the ability to understand their desires/fears, etc. I think of them as infant or very young souls.
A great job as always, Scott. It's been a hyper-interest of mine as well, along with other areas of human behavior for 3 and 1/2 decades now. Interestingly, I was born in August of '69, so it was Woodstock Peace and Love, and at the very same time the Tate/La Bianca murders. I'm sticking with the idealism! By the way, I don't ever hear it mentioned, but I consistently noticed psychopaths tend to have very chapped lips. Is that the excitement that may induce dehydration, salivary gland tie-in?? Please advise! 🧠🎵✌️ Pss, I guess I've been watching you and TBP for so long now that I've adopted your baseline illustrator of spinning your first finger ciunter-clockwise as you raise your arm when making a point (if that made sense). ☝️
Great one Scott! Ever watch an actor play a scary part and can't enjoy them in other rolls after because you still get the killer vibes? Lol Guess I really believed them in the killer rolls..Sometimes I have to wonder if they are anything like these personalities.
Most actors who play serial killers in movies are pretty nice IRL. Anthony Hopkins played Hannibal Lecter, but he also played C.S. Lewis very convincingly, and he's more like the latter than the former IRL. At the end of the day, they're just playing a part, and those who excel at it usually are nothing like the characters they play. I've heard actors say they struggle more with playing characters that remind them of themselves than playing those who are very different from them. They can let go more and have fun with it when the character isn't like themselves. :)
Thank you for such an indepth and informative view on Narrsistic Personality Disorder. It really is a horrible thing to deal with, on so many levels. And it would be wonderful if you could elaborate on Covert Narcissistic Disorder, in future videos.
Yes. I think that's what he was talking about when he referred to secondary and tertiary narcissists. I would love some examples, but I don't want Scott to get in any trouble. 😮❤😅
So is a psychopath, 😂😂😂 joking Scotty or Clark K. IMO, we reckon you nailed that topic mate 😂, serious thanks Scotty love the banta in-between mate, been needed 😂 👍👍
When someone is charming and has a following, I'm afraid I'm suspicious. That's really awful when you think about it, like you can't trust a person with charm. I've been under the spell of one and I think it's also you get flattered that they'd put that much energy into making you like them. Of course its nothing to be flattered about. Then it's confus8ng because you're suspicious of this person who everyone else just adores. They skate by on their charm a lot.
Dexter Morgan is a perfect example of a psychopath, I assume you've at least heard of or seen a episode or two if not the whole series, (fictional character /main character in a TV show for those who have no idea what I'm talking about) Always the actor that plays him does a fantastic job of giving a window into the mind of a psychopath, along with narrating his thoughts, it's really great😅
Dexter isn't a great example of a psychopath. Most psychopaths are not violent. You have probably met many in your life and not known who they really are. House from house md is a better representation of a psychopath.
@ssfourvegeta sounds like you're a psychopath lol, obviously not every psychopath is a murderer. But they do exist. And dexter Morgan is absolutely a great showcase of that particular type of psychopathy. Your putting words in my mouth, not cool.
My mother sadly is a psychopath. It’s has been insanely difficult. I don’t seem to think I find her fascinating. I find that personally type exhausting. I’m happy to keep her extremely far away.
My mom's family is lousy with it. Totally unscientific, but in that brood 1 in 3 inherited and became dark triad disordered. "Nurture," did not matter that much, we were all raised in the same baskets. Nature made it so. The damage to family is absolute and devastating. WISE, smart, five stars for getting away. NEVER be lured back for any reason.
Sometimes if I’m people watching and someone catches me I won’t look away on purpose to see how long before they look away. It’s usually pretty quick. But sometimes they don’t look away, then I know that’s probably a red flag. .. Am I The Pycho ?
I have studied infant & child development all my life, and vividly recall an experience regarding sympathy and empathy as an 8 year old. I was in a laundromat and saw another child who had evidently been severely burned, his face was a mask of scar tissue. I knew that I "felt sorry for" him, but there was a deeper emotion (empathy) that I was seeking within myself intently. I knew mentally how it should go, but it eluded me like difficult math. I knew it was the correct, healthy, caring and respectful way to feel. But my brain literally wasn't developed enough to fully attain that higher emotion. In a healthy child, empathy is usually developed by puberty, similar to the ability to think abstractly. I imagine it must be similar to being a psychopath, except that they don't try to attain empathy as a goal like I consciously remember doing that day.
My son was that way since he was 5 years old, he felt bad for kids struggling or being picked on. He is 14 now, still the same. A sensitive and smart empath. Often it hurts him but wouldn't have him any other way. ❤❤❤
Are there people that can turn empathy on and off like mentally? They can empathize with a person, but you know whenever they feel like it, they can just kind of shut that stuff down.
My hypothesis is that humans are similar to honeybees in a hive with specific traits that evolved to the ensure survival of the hive. And maybe psychopaths traits served a purpose back when we were hunter gatherers. No fear or empathy could have helped in hunting or war maybe.
Finally, someone who debunks Dexter as being a psychopath that is literally the worst representation of psychopathy. I'm diagnosed with anti-social personality disorder. And who's ever reading this You can choose to believe that or not but I. Personally think a good representation of at least someone with the anti-social personality. Is Alex dellarge from a clock orange. Persons with psychopathy can't care for anyone. Persons with antisocial personality disorder that are lower on that spectrum. Can care for a certain person or maybe a group There are a lot of people in prison who fit the criteria for anti-social personality disorder. And they won't touch kids or hurt women. But the psychopath who is imprisoned that doesn't matter to him or her at all. Everything is just a means to an endbut if you do have sadism alongside with your psychopathy, that is the worst of the worst mix and that is the psychopath that will hurt for pleasure.
@@hurricane_valence I loved Dexter, but the character seems to portray someone with a strong disassociation from empathy that was there just sort of blocked rather than someone who just didn’t have any empathy.
I loved it when you were describing Mark. You had me cracked I had to play it over it was so funny. I love this video. I love all your videos. Mark was just practicing he’s skills like all good snipers. What career did Mark choose?
😂 Don't worry too much, alot of us do it from low level social anxiety. And "dating experts " has been advising mirroring as a connection tactic for years!
I think a lot of this fascinates me so much because I actually have a lot of the symptoms that go along with borderline personality disorder. I started doing cognitive behavioral therapy when I was 18ish or so. I didn’t know that’s what I was doing. Only had learned about muscle memory and habits and the like and how much self talk can actually help. When I was a young kid I was always very shy but overly caring. Easily duped (and boy my siblings took advantage of that) Wanted to save everybody, every animal, every plant. Seeing ppl hurt, hurt me. Even ppl hiding it well were not safe from me knowing they were hurting. I could just tell. I faced trauma young. Nothing I would consider major but that could be the trauma and the getting into true crime talking lol. And as a preteen young adult it was…. Idk how to explain other than it’s basically Russian roulette on if I would feel normal, get over encumbered by emotions, or feel what felt like nothing. I still struggle with emotional regulation and the ways that affects the mind in my early mid 30s but I have a much better grasp of it and have had a lot more life experience and it’s second nature for me to question myself now. Which is a double edged sword. And a side point is I naturally became hyper vigilant because I would examine my moms moods to know when it was safe to talk to her about certain things when to give her space ect. The point I’m getting to though is that when I was a teenager…. Idk how to explain it. I still felt, but hated it and learned to sort of disassociate from having to feel. I became really good at manipulation by being able to examine other ppl and what I now know was sort of their baselines and know how to approach them, and would take advantage of that as a kid. Around 18 or so I sort of hit a precipice/crossroads and realized the ripple effects of these things and sort of went crazy but also sort of reeled myself in. But looking back it’s honestly scary what I was able to do at such a young g age. I’ve essentially trained myself to think deeper and try to keep my mind from taking mental shortcuts/assuming and just living by being honest, genuine, and forthcoming most of the time. (Somewhere in the process through trauma i realized self preservation sometimes it’s best to essentially wear a mask around strangers or ppl with red flags, but to still be those things when necessary for loved ones or those struggling who need help to help themselves ect.) Idk i probably didn’t articulate this well, and probably just made myself sound crazy. But it’s interesting to me how behaviors can seem the same in ppl but have completely different internal motivations. I’d be interested in yall talking more about those internal differences. I know you touch on them a lot.
Oh yeah... Dissociation. My favorite vacation spot. I totally get what you wrote. It got to a point, one day. I had to make a choice. Stay here and figure it out, or step off into that abyss. I'm still here. Friend, we've spent so much energy "helping," and that's a powerful thing. But we helped the wrong things in the wrong way. People consumed our "help," then came back for more... and more... until there was nothing left. We're meant for better things, all of us human beings. Learn YOU. Don't "help". Take time and find your own center, your own right and wrong. Learn about healthy boundaries, trusting and respecting ourselves. THEN, we can choose when and if to help where it really, really counts. Otherwise, we were just feeding an endless hungry machine of other people's needs. It's valuable, US, we can learn to apply it where it has the most impact, dust off and recharge our batteries, then do something else WE choose to invest in. Cheers & huge hug to you. Hang in there.
Don't know where to send suggestions but video of police interrogation of Stephan Sterns & Jen Soto are out for the Madeline Soto case in florida. Would LOVE to see the panel or you go through them. Both are posted on Grizzly True Crime (on youtube) with no pauses or commentary ✌💜😁
You are friends/colleagues with my daughter, Lindsay C.. I wish the two of you would do a podcast about her online dating experiences. I think it would be very informative and helpful for young women (and men) to receive some insight on how to navigate such a vast landscape of psychopathy. How do you find someone to love? What are the biggest red flags and how do you navigate such a lonely world in order to find your soulmate?
My stepfather was a psychopath man it really ruined me as an adult i struggle so much when i was a kid i tried several times to get help and was shut down and put on blast by my mom who was a complete manipulative narcissist when i got to a certain size and had strength and educated myself i managed to keep them from physically abusing me but the mental aspects didn't stop until a year ago im 35 now he went to prison and then got deported back to Mexico and i cut communication with her she tries to message me when she needs money or something but i ignore it if you need advice get away from people like this and stay way theyll never change or feel bad they aren't capable of changing or admitting guilt or wrong doing they believe they are gods gift to earth.
But it's possible that the manipulative behavior was a learned behavior out of survival. Not that it okay our treatment. If she admits to what you went through she has to admit they are the problem and not you. When your playing the i am better then everyone game you can't admit your a shit parent.
Wow! my mom was a narcissist. And yep , when we got older ,(i have older siblings) I would here my siblings say things like "here she goes, fake crying again, "she's got to be right" You can say black and she'll fight you til you say yes it's white and in the next sentence you can say white and she'll say black'. that last one was something i would say , not to her face though. To my Therapist. LOL! seriously though!
This is the thing I don't understand about narcissists. They want to be liked, yet they will argue endlessly about crap that doesn't matter. Why? Your example is perfect - saying it's white when it's black or vice versa. Why do this? That will never make me like you. It's annoying and makes me want to not speak to them at all. How do they think that will work? That is one of their traits that baffles me.
Yep. Glibness and superficiality are big ones. I remember, years ago asking my then (psychopathic) boyfriend “what is it about me that you love?” And his answer was “we both like pizza and going to the gym. We’re perfect for each other!” The hilarious thing about it was how serious he was about that statement. 0% intended humour. Looking back now, I can’t help but laugh.
My ex was explaining why we don’t work and a reason was we’re so different! Difference I didn’t want to go to the bar because my mom died? After escaping her I’m super down to go have fun. Weird!
Im autistic, the type that used to be called aspergers. And i think that people are offput by me because im also too nice. Ive had to stop myself from giving too much praise. Its really lonely when people think youre suspicious bc malicious people have some similar surface traits. The difference is intention. I also tend to give too much eye contact when youre talking bc i was forced to do it as a kid to show i was listening. But i cant look at people when im the one talking. I have seemed to be staring at people in public when im overstimulated and zoning out. Its called a shutdown and it really triggers paranoid people.
Yeah, the older we get, the more we learn to just stop being nice to people too much because they take it the wrong way. Hang in there! On the upside, I'm in my 50s now with bright white hair, so when I'm overly nice to people, they just think I'm being grandmotherly or whatever. Lol. Being nice becomes okay again after a certain age. :)
@@kr3642 I won't say "it" gets better, but you learn how to navigate the world better over time. You get better. Love and hope to you for a smoother ride through this bumpy life in your future! :)
Some people conflate irony with sarcasm. The appearance of being true or real is called verisimilitude. The devil is usually somewhere in the details. Tesla once said, "If your hate could be turned into electricity, it would light up the whole world." Replace hatred with chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness, and humility and light up the world for our Lord. This is what authentic free energy is all about. ♥️🙏
Gilgo Beach killer was presumably active for decades! It's insane. And all the other bodies who have not been identified yet may be totally unrelated or some may still be related. You guys covered him on TBP.
Another fantastic and informative video on this little understood subject. What's alarming to me is, the complete lack of understanding of these disorders by our courts. For example, I had a case with a fully and repeat diagnosed psychopathic mother and sociopathic father, both diagnosed ASPD, with those specific presentations in their psych evals. The courts ignored this completely, kept trying to reunify their highly abused two year old with them after five of their previous children had been removed and their parental rights severed for abuse (three year case, no, they did not win but what a slog). There are many of these types of cases, this is just one that stood out. These diagnoses are completely ignored in both criminal and administrative actions. In criminal cases, it's ignored in sentencing. They are sentenced without the consideration of likeliness to re-offend in the same... or worse, ways. Incurable and untreatable. It is great what you are doing Scott, educating people about this. The devastation they cause in society is one thing, the devastation they cause to those closest to them is quantum. Thank you.
Thank u 4 sharing. Maybe this help to know that i hear u. So do many others. Life is supposed to be a mystery. Just not of the sadists who are prevalent nt on this planet or plane.
@@marycallenfu Thank you for your kind response, Mary. I read a theory that life is about seeking, finding, and sharing joy. I don't know if it's true, but that's where I'm heading! 🙂
@rynneivarsson751
yes! i grew up with a psychopathic father & sociopathic mother. my childhood was living through one terrifying event to the next. every day was a game of survival. school was my only reprieve. i was literally terrified every day and night of my life. no one to turn to, and no escape. it affects me every minute of the day, and there is still no escape from the constant memories/flashbacks of horrific abuse.
What do you think of the Sarah Boone case? I see: 1. Lack of remorse, guilt and empathy; 2. Trophy gathering: the videos. I think she took them to gloat over them later, and relive what she did to Jorge. Also, she wanted his ring back to keep as a reminder of what she did, for that was all that was left of him; 3. Blatant, off the charts NARCISSISM; 4. Pathological lying; 4. Joy evidenced in her torturing of Jorge. The most chilling part of the suitcase videos was when Sarah sighed in satisfaction as Jorge begged for his life and said, “Yea.” The list goes on. I am amazed that the Court has not ordered her to have a psychological test. She has been tested by experts by both sides, but an unbiased series of exams that would detect psychopathy.
@@tamararutland-mills9530 The one I knew well was wired differently. She claimed four victims, three of which I personally know of. These were done in a moment of complete rage, however, she normally did not do her own wet work. She instead blackmailed or manipulated others to do it for her. Ms. Boone is def antisocial, but whether that leans more toward Sociopathy we can't know. There is no "one" type of any of these. There's predominate traits and a mindset, but their individual limits of what they will and won't do... No book on that one.
I once felt like everyone kept looking at me and then realized I was sitting underneath the clock
Lol X)
Similar happening to me as well. context does matter, doesn't it?
That gut feeling about someone is so relatable. I do think we women get that gut instinct, but I also think we tend to shrug it off. I've certainly done it. We want to give people the benefit of the doubt, and we just discount our instinct. And it's never wrong! I'm learning, at my advanced age, to start listening to it. Also, can we just start a Scott Rouse Fan Club? He seems like such a sweet person.
Everyone should read the book "The Gift of Fear" by Gavin deBecker. It's a classic, and once you read it you'll never think of things the same way again. I've owned dozens of copies over the years, and given all of them away to people who need to read it. If I could choose just ONE book to give to young women who are starting to date, this would be the one.
I know, like it's being rude to protect yourself, when that gut instinct kicks in. So what, if someone thinks we're rude or weird, or whatever, as long as we're safe.
@@YochevedDesigns yes it's a brilliant book. I gave mine away too and the recipient passed it on in turn.
Women were raised that way, in some ways, still are. Being told that the key to a good marriage is to always compromise and go along to get along. From the time they're girls, women are trained that their concerns or complaints don't matter and no one wants to hear them. Punished for speaking out, speaking truth, it sets up that dynamic to be a predator's first choice.
My husband and I had a narcissist who injected themselves into our family. I really wish we had known how to deal with them ! We tried reasoning with them for hours!
If only we had known to butter them up and feed their ego! Life would have been so much easier.
Thank you for this gem of a lesson Scott. We are prepared for it should it come up in the future.
Thank you Scott
I really needed to see that smile of urs today.. it's been a rough one.... I love ur energy that's comes along with it as well....
The bread it wasn't me it was the darn bread......
I'm relieved n he's gonna be toast....
Me too! ☺️
Here's hoping your days het better, Joan. With respect, from Laura in EU.
@@22ergie hey thanks so much for taking the time to post that. It's not to often a stranger goes out of there way to post a POSITIVE comment. My experience lately is utube people tad bit cranky these days. N heaven for id u say they the wrong darn thing then everyone comes jumping at ya trying to correct u r say ur wrong or r just plane negative. That's rather annoying. So thanks u very much for making time to say something kind to a stranger. N I will have a great day n because of reading ur comment n ur positive energy I'm off to a great start. Much love n keep up the positive vibes. The world is lucky n I'm thankful for people like u...... 💕
i grew up with a psychopathic father & sociopathic mother. my childhood was living through one terrifying event to the next. every day was a game of survival. school was my only reprieve. i was literally terrified every day and night of my life. no one to turn to, and no escape. he constantly threatened to kill me if i were to speak to anyone about anything. his threats were reinforced with violence and constant psychological torture. it affects me every minute of the day, and there is still no escape from the continuous memories/flashbacks of horrific abuse.
you never tell them. do not confront a psychopath or narcissist. you will regret it.
There are two things that may help people in spotting a psychopath (serial killer), which I gleaned from reading the book, “The Stranger Beside Me” about Bundy:
1. Their eyes will go black (dilated pupils) in response to someone’s fear or pain. (Do their pupils dilate greater than others do?)
2. Your pet will HATE them. (Perhaps because they can smell death on them.)
I like what you said about psychopaths/narcissists making you feel great, like you made a new best friend, yet you come away with an icky feeling. I work with a narcissist and he totally love bombed me in the beginning. I did come away with that feeling of ick. I also realized that I answered too many inappropriate questions, such as how much I pay for my mortgage, which he has since used to make diminishing comments.
I need to learn how to deal with the everyday narcissist/psychopath. I get very scared and freeze due to my past experiences with them. Learning to manage them by treating them like an ego will be a helpful tactic .
If you can afford your mortgage, how can he make comments that make you feel bad? You do you! And if it is more than you can afford, I heard the Fed just lowered interest rates, so you could look into refinancing to something more affordable these days. Either way, his comments should not make you feel bad for whatever you're paying on your mortgage. That's your business and your choice. Ignore his nonsense.
@@SuzyQ-vg3tc somehow learn to carry the weight of any feelings of shame, guilt and pain. Its fear of feeling these that pins us to the wall but if such feelings are embraced, acknowledged & pretty much forgotten in a healthy way of laying aside every weight of sin that so easily can seem to land - right where we're about to go - if we can treat success & failure with a bit of detachment... we won't be too worried what 1 other person out of- what is it now? 8 billion people?
People who matter dont mind
And people who mind
Don't matter 🙂😑🥰
I was attacked and held by a man for 20 hours. In his attack mode, his eyes were black. I later assumed his pupils were dilated while in this attack trance. Really terrifying.
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When you said that you find narcissists in a group fascinating, I laughed when you said: "Not like in a nest." Since they're creatures of darkness, I have this theory that they hang upside down from cave ceilings like bats. I used to work with a narc and he was absolutely nasty - he tried to get me fired. Sadly for him, it didn't work. Narcs are deeply unhappy inside and can't stand seeing anyone else happy. So they try to drag you down - any way they can. So watch out for that, and don't let them succeed. 😃
Agreed! Creatures of darkness, for sure and proud of it.
@@bobbarker1798 - a lot of narcs are manipulative liars and those are dark personality traits for sure. So is their need to have control over everyone around them. Also putting others down in order to feel good about themselves. I find all of these things absolutely pathetic.
I agree I mean you'd think that maybe just maybe one of them would finally connect the dots and see the benefits of ditching the immaturity or try enjoying having a really good reputation that they earned by using integrity. I always wish they would become addicted to just being authentic but nope I am wrong every time. I just can't wrap my head around the fact that they absolutely would rather remain doing exactly as they are and have no intentions of ever changing it.
@@TawnyJenkins-td5gl - yeah, I find that very sad, too. Most narcs are incapable of changing. A small percentage are self-aware and realize that they're narcs. Some of that small percentage do actually try to improve themselves with therapy and kudos to them for trying.
Lol, there are a lot of reasons for the "psychopath" stare. Not being properly socialized made me do that, as well as severe dissociation to the point that I didn't know I was staring.
Scott-you, Greg, Chase, and Mark are the most humblest TEACHERS I have ever sat to listen to. This is what I like about you four-you are very intelligent in your field, yet you all teach humbly. It’s a spirit of humbleness that is present in your videos.
I love listening to you Scott! ❤
My mother is a histrionic malignant narcissist...
I've had no contact for 20 years and no regrets for even one day.
@@jooliagoolia9959 good for you. I got back in touch after 17 yrs NC. *Terrible* decision. Don't ever, ever do it. Save yourself.
My ex who killed all my sons pet pigeons in front of our 9 year old, the night I asked him to leave openly admitted to having no emotions and had zero empathy. He was cruel & callous and as you say Scott, had zero care or concern for our son, constantly saying 'he's fine, he's ok' when he clearly wasn't. He used to watch me whilst I was watching tv, became quite creepy. Is that a psychopath stare?
I used to think he was a narcissist but more and more thinking he's a psychopath. Dumped his kid after raising him for 10 years when he split. Said he was too busy.
God, that is brutal. Your poor kid and his.
It sounds like you're lucky he left without harming you or your son. For both your sakes, I hope he stays out of your life from this point forward.
@xzonia1 he caused a lot of harm but I 💯 agree, I got out before it was too late x
Psychopath stare is when they look at someone right in the eyes and make the person uncomfortable, but continue to stare because they don't know it makes people uncomfortable. It's often a total stranger, not a particular person.
It might be that they are empty vessels so they have empty vacant eyes. More than likely, he was trying to make u feel fear. Then he owns u. He thinks.
Perfect photo of you on the UA-cam intro pic! Made me laugh out loud! The appropriate face you’re making at all the psychopaths! 😂
That's so interesting and funny when you said that when you were learning about psychopathy you thought everybody was a psychopath and it scared the sh....t out of you because you didn't know enough about it. I've been watching a lot of these kinds of videos over the years as a result of my parents' horrific marriage, and I feel like I don't know who is what anymore, including myself! 😂😂😂
Start small. Pick three things in your home that bring you peace, pride, or joy. What do you like? What do you dislike? Examine and own your thoughts, especially the subconscious, inner dialog. Hold those thoughts accountable, understand why you think it. Is that thought useful to you? How does it behave? Is it a nag, a punisher, a toxic harpy? Get rid of it. Take a journey, learn yourself. Best wishes on your path!
You're so right! I've noticed that narcissist flock together. I got stuck in a whole nest of them at one time. That they come in clusters is another reason to get away from them.
My narcissists love to call me and ask advice and then tell me why I am wrong!!! LoL I got tired of that so I started quoting textbooks, and now they stopped calling. The last question was: I'm I safe touching downed power lines...Hell No!!!
I wanted to watch a programme on Cycle Paths but got this instead
@@virtualmadworld 😂
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I’ve taught myself to show no fear even in specifically scary situations. People who come off as psychopaths, or who may be looking to press fear into others, non showing of fear makes them stop. They can’t get what they want so they won’t press further. Luckily fear is a choice response when you’ve exercised it and understand it only lives in your head.
That’s true. Happened to me.
I’ve watched so much of Scott’s material, that now when I watch tv and a character gets hurt and I catch myself wincing along in pain, now I think to myself,
“yay, I’m not a psychopath!”
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Once, I had a cat I’m convinced was a psychopath. He loved terrorising the other cats as well as the chooks and the goat in a particularly evil way then smirk at their panic.
Sounds just territorial.
I agree , they can be very dominate , less than humble . I adopted a Simes cat he was horrible would attack me from behind . He new l had second thoughts about ..
Him
After seeing the first section of your video, UA-cam suggested I see film footage of teenager's reactions to their [murder] sentences. The additional information put things into perspective. I am grateful to learn from you even if I go at a slower pace.
You're looking awfully handsome today, Scott. Tell your wife not to worry, I'm part of 'the L world'. PS) Been with you guys since the beginning. Love your, and the B.H.'s videos! ~Laura in EU.
Scott, I really appreciate your time and skill in this video. I’m more accustomed to the quick clips of the Behavior Panel, so I’ve been trying to catch up on you guys with your individual videos, too! Having been the unfortunate and unwitting victim of a psychopathic narcissist, I am now in the research mode of trying to learn as much as possible about their characteristics because I do not ever wish to make the mistake of being in a relationship with one again. (Alright, guys, I think this is another good one! 😉 )
Thank you so much. I’m sorry you had such a tough time. You hang in there. 🙂👍
I'm just discovering that my mom was a psychopath. No empathy, no feelings. I never saw her truly happy. She did take great delight in anyone's misfortune. That's the only time I saw her laugh. She had no compassion. Didn't care about us or really anyone else. Very bitter and resentful.
I'm suspicious about my mother too. Mine was definitely narcissisti & sadistic. Many pets disappeared or died prematurely. I wish family were able to access mental health diagnosis.
...sounds like your mom was a malignant narcissist rather than a psychopath. My mother is the same way.
The experts who work with narcissists/narcissistic abuse victims say that narcissists never change.
And they're right. They don't.
Your so good at decribing a psychopath. Ive been with one for so many years. I dont think anyone I've ever met in comparison to him. I see the hollowness with like no feelings whatsoever. My thought is he's so cunning so tough to expose of the sinister mindset. I believe he an expert at not even letting family know how he operates. Interesting at how you explain the brain and I'll checkot the books as sounds interesting. After years I see what you mean about the difference. Thank you for all the information!!
I space out and I remember as a kid a girl would freak out and say I was staring at her in class. To me I wasn’t even aware of her presence, I just have ADHD. Remember that not all staring is a psychopathic stare. Could be spacing out or neurodivergent masking. I personally have social anxiety too so eye contact can be uncomfortable, but sometimes I get paranoid that I’m giving toooo much eye contact when masking and then I get stuck in my own head about the right amount of eye contact and not able to focus on the conversation as well as I like.
@@DigitalResurrection Just so you know, you’re not alone in this experience. 😉
Yep! I stare sometimes but my mind is just somewhere else. When I come to, I respectfully look away. I wonder how many people thought I was a sociopath. 😂😂😂
My dad was a narc, i look back at all the times he tried to kill me, where it would have liked like an "accident" eg abandoning me on a beach when i was 3, just negligent parenting. I then married a narc who has done the same to me and my sons. These are very dangerous people, they then kill you as you grow up, their children suffer poor health, drug addictions etc.
Scott, Gotta confess that I can't take much of your in depth analysis of psychopaths and narcissists in one sitting. Fascinating? Yes. Seeing your enthusiasm for what's going on in someone's brain? So cool. But learning about cold, hard-hearted people can be too much for me. I like to be around real people who care about others and don't play games. / Your comment about "your person" (talking about your wife) was the sweetest thing to hear in your entire video. My grandparents were best friends for 70 years. / Next time you talk about your office spaces and you wonder out loud why Mark doesn't change the look of his office, could you let your audience in the joke of why Mark doesn't change his space? I didn't know Mark was using a green screen. I tend to think that people use green screens when making a film or doing the nightly news. Boy, did I get an education. :-) Thank you.
Well, if you can’t take what I’m talking about, but I get specific about one thing, and one sitting, you should probably find another channel to learn about body language from. And Mark’s background is not a green screen. On some of the videos, if you watch any of our behavior panel shows, you’ll see him walk out of the room, which would make that virtually impossible unless you were a huge movie company.
@@ScottRouse Scott, I wasn't complaining at all. Just sharing. I have to take the truth you possess in chunks. There's a lot to think about. / One of your assistants commented on and laughed at me for sharing how much I liked Mark's office. She was the one who told me it was a green screen. I had no clue. I missed the episode she mentioned where Mark revealed that he was using a fake background. When I've watched TBP you all have been siting down the entire time. Since your assistant opened my eyes, I'm more aware of computer generated backgrounds - a good thing.
@@ScottRouse As you peel back the layers of different personality traits, it starts to become painful because you may be describing a family member. I keep pressing forward. I keep learning. I'm after the truth. Keeping talking because I'm still listening.
@@katherinerourke8927 you can do like me when I’m feeling overwhelmed with it. Just watch a little at a time, then find something that’s easier on the heart and mind to take a break and come back for a little more. It tends to take me 2-3 days to watch a 1 hour video sometimes depending on my mindset and what I have going on atm.
@@90sWillowJo Thank you for the kindness of your reply. I have and am following that very advice.
"Dopamine crumbs". Too much truth. 😢
Great video! Very interesting topic and this is actually the first time I actually begin to understand the basics of these conditions.
English is my second language and I appreciate your usage of easy-to-understand words!
Fantastic discussion
Thank you Sir
Brilliant!!
... I like how I understand your words Scott. it's just the way you put it. I'm excited to learn more. thank you
Yeah I know, right! It's like listening to your favorite cousin you don't get to see often enough recount a story.
This is so helpful, Scott! Thank you
I have learned a lot on this topic and would really appreciate a deep dive into narcissists. Big thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I think people who habitually do drugs, including prescribed drugs, or alcohol often act psychopathically but can change if sober.
Hey Scott😊Watch you and the guys on the behavior panel so I clicked and subscribed as soon as I seen your facial expression on this video😂
Ha! Thank you. : )
Thanks for this Scott! This is great! Love this channel!
Oh sh*T..I dated a narcissist.. he wouldn't hurt me physically but had no empathy for me when he hurt me emotionally.
Mine wasn't physically abusive either, until the end. They escalate, please be careful.
Please do a video focussed on narcissistic Personality Disorder. They are just as dangerous.
The Sociopath Next Door, by Martha Stout. Excellent book
Yeah. I had met some people who seemed to be straight out of that book.
It really is.
Very good, informative informal tutorial. Thank you so much. Have seen that stare, once. Guy became a stalker too. He was terrorising a couple others as well. When the senior detective contacted me to say they found and arrested him, the D said to me over the phone and much to my relief: "We've got Stupid" 😅
When I was a little girl, we traveled by train lots to go places and there was always man who would do this to me. He always stared to the point I would bury my face behind my mother and hide. I dreaded seeing him and he did it every time I’d see him. I’ll never forget it.
Dr. Ramani here on UA-cam is a narcissist expert. She's brilliant.
I watch Dr Ramani and Dr Les Carter.
And please add Patrick Teahan (on UA-cam) and Mister Rogers (RIP) to your wonderful list!💫
*Dr.Carter* (UA-cam) is my "go to". Knowledgeable and I like his "southern style" approach 👍
I've seen her stuff, I have BPD
Love her ❤ and these guys as well❤❤❤❤
Dexter wasn't accurate, because the audience doesn't want to hear that kids can be "born bad". That implies that it could happen to them, too. People also love a redemption arc in a story. I don't think that Dexter had feelings, I think that his dad drilled "The Code" into him, so Dexter could kill in ways that his dad would find acceptable. Without his early childhood training, I think that Dexter would have killed anyone that inconvenienced him and never thought twice. Another thing that The Code taught him, was how to hide the evidence.
Scott your videos give me my shot of dopamine. Just wish I knew about this 30 years ago. Well, never too late. I won’t make the same mistake. ❤
When I was in the 4th AND 5th grade in school (also some teachers in high school did this) I had a teacher, and she would get onto me or another student. Afterwards she would STARE at me. I couldn’t STAND the way she wld STARE-it made me uncomfortable and I wld squirm. It took i while before I strtd noticing she had power to make me feel uncomfortable, and so in grade school about the fifth grade if I got mad at a friend I started staring at them and IT WORKED! Done it all my life until about the last probably five yrs I have stopped. The state a psychopath does is a type of enquirers stare. Scott I know you are saying stuff-but still it’s a totally different stare. It’s like one still trying to understand, and I also wld like to add-I have watched a person try to copy tears and heartbreak in a video, but didn’t work here
This is my favorite topic of all.
My dad has a stare that feels like he is staring into your soul all of our friends were scared of him. After years of learning he is autistic and he doesn't know how to regulate eye contact.
@@cierraallen9288 😂
Thank you Scott! 🙏
Snakes in suits is the book he recommends. Im simply writing it down here, so I can keep watching now and remember
You’ll love it.
@@missread5932 mormons lol
"Without Conscience " also by
Dr. Robert Hare, is a must-read.
It really woke me up. One of the most essential, memorable books I have ever read. 📚
I've been watching videos like this for years. I never come across this description of psycopathetic staring. Very interesting
Thank you, Scott! This is 100% what I was looking for. The thumbnail threw me off a little bit. I thought it was going to be about killers. 😂❤
The psychopathic stare... GAH! I'm fairly certain my ex-husband has undiagnosed BPD, but I tried talking to him about how the way he looked at me during conversations would make me feel uncomfortable. I literally couldn't hold eye contact with him for long because I would get severely creeped out. It was this wide/rounded eyed, intense sort of look and he didn't blink. No matter how I tried to communicate how I felt, he couldn't seem to stop doing it.
@thislittleweirdgirl332 my mother did that. No expression, no matter what unless someone got hurt or humiliated then she laughed. Just a wide-eyed, unblinking stare.
You should make second channel, where you let all the nerdy stuff out! 👀
Or just do it on this channel. I'd watch nerdy videos. X) :)
I was really shocked early on in the presentation - psychopaths tend NOT to be narcissists ; psychopaths genuinely don’t care what people think about them and narcissists rely on others for validation
If they’re psychopaths, they are the highest form of narcissists.
Narcissists are fascinating but I'm really hoping my extensive studies are over now
i HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THISSS, thank youuu scott for feeding ym CURIOSITY, and I am starting to wonder if I am one lol
Your sentence structure says “nope”.
He has a video with a test you can take to determine if you are or not. Go take the test! :)
I know a young psychopath - no fear, no empathy, that stare, wants to harm animals and mimicking. Loves to try to get you to show fear. Never smiles which is so weird. Just wondering if a need for continued stimulus is a trait? Do they know they are psychopaths?
Yes & yes
Need to get back to the differentiation between psychopath and Sociopath
A sociopath really is an antisocial creature that doesn't give a crap about anyone else and will rob and steal from anyone, habitual criminals. They just can't abide by the system, rebels to the end. But they don't necessarily lack emotions. The psychopath is much darker down the triad and has zero empathy, they're absolutely predators. People are just objects to them and killing is the excitement they need because they lack the emotions.
Bottom line, sociopaths generally come from poor upbringing and lack impulse control. Whereas psychopaths lack emotion and empathy and are manipulative, predators on a mission.
A psychologist friend of mine explained it to me like so:
- A primary psychopath does not care one whit if you like or dislike them. It makes no difference. But, they require your absolute obedience and that you sing their praises and serve their agenda at all times. They are not emotionally reactionary usually, more calculating and have no remorse. It's fun to watch them at funerals, it's like a fish on dry land.
- A sociopath cares that you don't like them, they care too much actually. Some will kill you for that. They are emotionally reactionary and have no remorse. It's not fun to watch them anywhere, ever. They spend much of their time scanning for perceived threats to their own conjured existence.
@@rynneivarsson751 parts of that are correct, but judgment's vary.
@@Dougwarren69 So do psychopaths and sociopaths. One psychopath I knew well murdered four over time that I knew of, but rarely did her own wet work. She normally blackmailed or manipulated others into doing it for her. The base was that all things and beings either served her, or they were worthless, meaningless. Black and white. Sort of a saner Manson in a designer suit.
Some are CEO's of large entities. Some live under overpasses. However as a general rule, they do not care how anyone feels about anything, only how they serve, or don't serve their own needs.
Oh...😅❤ I was doing the Hare psychopathy checklist wrong. It said it was a test, so I just took it. I didn't think to apply it to other people I know. Thanks, Scott. That makes a lot more sense. ❤
33:00 You are talking about the German stare... It's pretty normal there😂
Scott Rouse, you made me bust out laughing at the 45:51 timestamp 🤣 your humor is greatly appreciated 😂 Thanks for the video & clarification on psychopaths !!
Funny he mentioned the Hollywood narcissist thing. I have a family member who is a narcissist, and she is a washed-up Hollywood actress who is still clinging to Hollywood as it circles the drain. She loves to name-drop and is good friends with a very famous female musician. She is always talking about her and things they do together, and it is quite funny, if not totally nauseating. She even tries to get me to hang out with them, which I never have any desire to do. She cannot understand that. She even has pictures of herself all over her house with famous people from the parties they have. It is sad. Everyone I know who becomes an actor or actress trying to get into Hollywood is usually a narcissist, I have found. It seems to attract evil people, or at least people who desperately need their egos fed. I.e., shallow, hollow people who lack true self-awareness or the ability to understand their desires/fears, etc. I think of them as infant or very young souls.
A great job as always, Scott. It's been a hyper-interest of mine as well, along with other areas of human behavior for 3 and 1/2 decades now. Interestingly, I was born in August of '69, so it was Woodstock Peace and Love, and at the very same time the Tate/La Bianca murders. I'm sticking with the idealism!
By the way, I don't ever hear it mentioned, but I consistently noticed psychopaths tend to have very chapped lips. Is that the excitement that may induce dehydration, salivary gland tie-in?? Please advise! 🧠🎵✌️
Pss, I guess I've been watching you and TBP for so long now that I've adopted your baseline illustrator of spinning your first finger ciunter-clockwise as you raise your arm when making a point (if that made sense). ☝️
Great one Scott! Ever watch an actor play a scary part and can't enjoy them in other rolls after because you still get the killer vibes? Lol Guess I really believed them in the killer rolls..Sometimes I have to wonder if they are anything like these personalities.
Most actors who play serial killers in movies are pretty nice IRL. Anthony Hopkins played Hannibal Lecter, but he also played C.S. Lewis very convincingly, and he's more like the latter than the former IRL. At the end of the day, they're just playing a part, and those who excel at it usually are nothing like the characters they play. I've heard actors say they struggle more with playing characters that remind them of themselves than playing those who are very different from them. They can let go more and have fun with it when the character isn't like themselves. :)
@xzonia1 Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Funny, but AH is one of them. I was thinking I should try that movie. :)
@@nanceb4him Any time! I've enjoyed AH in every movie I've seen him in. He's a great actor. :)
Fantastic report. Thank you.
Thank you for such an indepth and informative view on Narrsistic Personality Disorder. It really is a horrible thing to deal with, on so many levels. And it would be wonderful if you could elaborate on Covert Narcissistic Disorder, in future videos.
Yes. I think that's what he was talking about when he referred to secondary and tertiary narcissists. I would love some examples, but I don't want Scott to get in any trouble. 😮❤😅
So is a psychopath, 😂😂😂 joking Scotty or Clark K.
IMO, we reckon you nailed that topic mate 😂, serious thanks Scotty love the banta in-between mate, been needed 😂 👍👍
When someone is charming and has a following, I'm afraid I'm suspicious. That's really awful when you think about it, like you can't trust a person with charm.
I've been under the spell of one and I think it's also you get flattered that they'd put that much energy into making you like them.
Of course its nothing to be flattered about.
Then it's confus8ng because you're suspicious of this person who everyone else just adores. They skate by on their charm a lot.
Dexter Morgan is a perfect example of a psychopath, I assume you've at least heard of or seen a episode or two if not the whole series, (fictional character /main character in a TV show for those who have no idea what I'm talking about)
Always the actor that plays him does a fantastic job of giving a window into the mind of a psychopath, along with narrating his thoughts, it's really great😅
Dexter isn't a great example of a psychopath. Most psychopaths are not violent. You have probably met many in your life and not known who they really are. House from house md is a better representation of a psychopath.
@ssfourvegeta sounds like you're a psychopath lol, obviously not every psychopath is a murderer. But they do exist. And dexter Morgan is absolutely a great showcase of that particular type of psychopathy. Your putting words in my mouth, not cool.
My mother sadly is a psychopath. It’s has been insanely difficult. I don’t seem to think I find her fascinating. I find that personally type exhausting. I’m happy to keep her extremely far away.
My mom's family is lousy with it. Totally unscientific, but in that brood 1 in 3 inherited and became dark triad disordered. "Nurture," did not matter that much, we were all raised in the same baskets. Nature made it so. The damage to family is absolute and devastating. WISE, smart, five stars for getting away. NEVER be lured back for any reason.
Sometimes if I’m people watching and someone catches me I won’t look away on purpose to see how long before they look away. It’s usually pretty quick. But sometimes they don’t look away, then I know that’s probably a red flag. .. Am I The Pycho ?
I have studied infant & child development all my life, and vividly recall an experience regarding sympathy and empathy as an 8 year old. I was in a laundromat and saw another child who had evidently been severely burned, his face was a mask of scar tissue. I knew that I "felt sorry for" him, but there was a deeper emotion (empathy) that I was seeking within myself intently. I knew mentally how it should go, but it eluded me like difficult math. I knew it was the correct, healthy, caring and respectful way to feel. But my brain literally wasn't developed enough to fully attain that higher emotion. In a healthy child, empathy is usually developed by puberty, similar to the ability to think abstractly. I imagine it must be similar to being a psychopath, except that they don't try to attain empathy as a goal like I consciously remember doing that day.
My son was that way since he was 5 years old, he felt bad for kids struggling or being picked on. He is 14 now, still the same. A sensitive and smart empath. Often it hurts him but wouldn't have him any other way. ❤❤❤
Are there people that can turn empathy on and off like mentally? They can empathize with a person, but you know whenever they feel like it, they can just kind of shut that stuff down.
That would be my ex-wife.
Higher emotional distress or exhaustion can make a person kind of "shut off" and "shut on" their empathy.
@@Frostforged they mimic that type of stuff. They learn it from observation.
My hypothesis is that humans are similar to honeybees in a hive with specific traits that evolved to the ensure survival of the hive. And maybe psychopaths traits served a purpose back when we were hunter gatherers. No fear or empathy could have helped in hunting or war maybe.
I think they serve a purpose in the current hive. Interesting analogy, I just hate being stuck as a worker bee. ( :
Finally, someone who debunks Dexter as being a psychopath that is literally the worst representation of psychopathy. I'm diagnosed with anti-social personality disorder. And who's ever reading this You can choose to believe that or not but I. Personally think a good representation of at least someone with the anti-social personality. Is Alex dellarge from a clock orange.
Persons with psychopathy can't care for anyone. Persons with antisocial personality disorder that are lower on that spectrum. Can care for a certain person or maybe a group There are a lot of people in prison who fit the criteria for anti-social personality disorder. And they won't touch kids or hurt women. But the psychopath who is imprisoned that doesn't matter to him or her at all. Everything is just a means to an endbut if you do have sadism alongside with your psychopathy, that is the worst of the worst mix and that is the psychopath that will hurt for pleasure.
@@hurricane_valence I loved Dexter, but the character seems to portray someone with a strong disassociation from empathy that was there just sort of blocked rather than someone who just didn’t have any empathy.
I loved it when you were describing Mark. You had me cracked I had to play it over it was so funny. I love this video. I love all your videos. Mark was just practicing he’s skills like all good snipers. What career did Mark choose?
He became a Dentist. I NEVER would have thought that. I just found out a few years ago. 🙂👍
The first move of a psychopath……. Sounds like some first time dates I’ve had… Mimicin …. Dang
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Don't worry too much, alot of us do it from low level social anxiety. And "dating experts " has been advising mirroring as a connection tactic for years!
I can't believe no one interviewed Hitler.
It makes me wonder all kinds of things and question so much of what I know.
My eyes dilate when I walk into a Sephora 😅
I have that same problem!! 🤣 💄
Lol omg it is a problem! ❤😅
I think a lot of this fascinates me so much because I actually have a lot of the symptoms that go along with borderline personality disorder. I started doing cognitive behavioral therapy when I was 18ish or so. I didn’t know that’s what I was doing. Only had learned about muscle memory and habits and the like and how much self talk can actually help. When I was a young kid I was always very shy but overly caring. Easily duped (and boy my siblings took advantage of that) Wanted to save everybody, every animal, every plant. Seeing ppl hurt, hurt me. Even ppl hiding it well were not safe from me knowing they were hurting. I could just tell. I faced trauma young. Nothing I would consider major but that could be the trauma and the getting into true crime talking lol. And as a preteen young adult it was…. Idk how to explain other than it’s basically Russian roulette on if I would feel normal, get over encumbered by emotions, or feel what felt like nothing. I still struggle with emotional regulation and the ways that affects the mind in my early mid 30s but I have a much better grasp of it and have had a lot more life experience and it’s second nature for me to question myself now. Which is a double edged sword. And a side point is I naturally became hyper vigilant because I would examine my moms moods to know when it was safe to talk to her about certain things when to give her space ect.
The point I’m getting to though is that when I was a teenager…. Idk how to explain it. I still felt, but hated it and learned to sort of disassociate from having to feel. I became really good at manipulation by being able to examine other ppl and what I now know was sort of their baselines and know how to approach them, and would take advantage of that as a kid. Around 18 or so I sort of hit a precipice/crossroads and realized the ripple effects of these things and sort of went crazy but also sort of reeled myself in. But looking back it’s honestly scary what I was able to do at such a young g age. I’ve essentially trained myself to think deeper and try to keep my mind from taking mental shortcuts/assuming and just living by being honest, genuine, and forthcoming most of the time. (Somewhere in the process through trauma i realized self preservation sometimes it’s best to essentially wear a mask around strangers or ppl with red flags, but to still be those things when necessary for loved ones or those struggling who need help to help themselves ect.)
Idk i probably didn’t articulate this well, and probably just made myself sound crazy. But it’s interesting to me how behaviors can seem the same in ppl but have completely different internal motivations.
I’d be interested in yall talking more about those internal differences. I know you touch on them a lot.
Oh yeah... Dissociation. My favorite vacation spot. I totally get what you wrote. It got to a point, one day. I had to make a choice. Stay here and figure it out, or step off into that abyss. I'm still here. Friend, we've spent so much energy "helping," and that's a powerful thing. But we helped the wrong things in the wrong way. People consumed our "help," then came back for more... and more... until there was nothing left. We're meant for better things, all of us human beings. Learn YOU. Don't "help". Take time and find your own center, your own right and wrong. Learn about healthy boundaries, trusting and respecting ourselves. THEN, we can choose when and if to help where it really, really counts. Otherwise, we were just feeding an endless hungry machine of other people's needs. It's valuable, US, we can learn to apply it where it has the most impact, dust off and recharge our batteries, then do something else WE choose to invest in. Cheers & huge hug to you. Hang in there.
@@rynneivarsson751 yes. That’s part of what I have learned through the years. Thank you.
Idealize, devalue, discard
Don't know where to send suggestions but video of police interrogation of Stephan Sterns & Jen Soto are out for the Madeline Soto case in florida. Would LOVE to see the panel or you go through them.
Both are posted on Grizzly True Crime (on youtube) with no pauses or commentary
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You are friends/colleagues with my daughter, Lindsay C.. I wish the two of you would do a podcast about her online dating experiences. I think it would be very informative and helpful for young women (and men) to receive some insight on how to navigate such a vast landscape of psychopathy. How do you find someone to love? What are the biggest red flags and how do you navigate such a lonely world in order to find your soulmate?
My stepfather was a psychopath man it really ruined me as an adult i struggle so much when i was a kid i tried several times to get help and was shut down and put on blast by my mom who was a complete manipulative narcissist when i got to a certain size and had strength and educated myself i managed to keep them from physically abusing me but the mental aspects didn't stop until a year ago im 35 now he went to prison and then got deported back to Mexico and i cut communication with her she tries to message me when she needs money or something but i ignore it if you need advice get away from people like this and stay way theyll never change or feel bad they aren't capable of changing or admitting guilt or wrong doing they believe they are gods gift to earth.
@@chango-f9z damn man, sorry for that experience
I think psychopaths have to be around manipulative people. Or in close relationships with them.
But it's possible that the manipulative behavior was a learned behavior out of survival. Not that it okay our treatment. If she admits to what you went through she has to admit they are the problem and not you. When your playing the i am better then everyone game you can't admit your a shit parent.
Im very sorry 🩷🫂 feel for you
Wow! my mom was a narcissist. And yep , when we got older ,(i have older siblings) I would here my siblings say things like "here she goes, fake crying again, "she's got to be right" You can say black and she'll fight you til you say yes it's white and in the next sentence you can say white and she'll say black'. that last one was something i would say , not to her face though. To my Therapist. LOL! seriously though!
This is the thing I don't understand about narcissists. They want to be liked, yet they will argue endlessly about crap that doesn't matter. Why? Your example is perfect - saying it's white when it's black or vice versa. Why do this? That will never make me like you. It's annoying and makes me want to not speak to them at all. How do they think that will work? That is one of their traits that baffles me.
@xzonia1 they only behave that way with those they have a connection with; typically family, as its easy for them to assert power.
FANTASTIC 👏🏻
those people who seem to have a cult of friends 👀
I saw Dexter as a vigilante with severe psychological trauma
Yep. Glibness and superficiality are big ones. I remember, years ago asking my then (psychopathic) boyfriend “what is it about me that you love?” And his answer was “we both like pizza and going to the gym. We’re perfect for each other!” The hilarious thing about it was how serious he was about that statement. 0% intended humour. Looking back now, I can’t help but laugh.
My ex was explaining why we don’t work and a reason was we’re so different! Difference I didn’t want to go to the bar because my mom died?
After escaping her I’m super down to go have fun. Weird!
Eugh...politicians. God help us all.
You are who you are ! And you either get better or you get worse
Im autistic, the type that used to be called aspergers. And i think that people are offput by me because im also too nice. Ive had to stop myself from giving too much praise. Its really lonely when people think youre suspicious bc malicious people have some similar surface traits. The difference is intention.
I also tend to give too much eye contact when youre talking bc i was forced to do it as a kid to show i was listening. But i cant look at people when im the one talking. I have seemed to be staring at people in public when im overstimulated and zoning out. Its called a shutdown and it really triggers paranoid people.
Yeah, the older we get, the more we learn to just stop being nice to people too much because they take it the wrong way. Hang in there! On the upside, I'm in my 50s now with bright white hair, so when I'm overly nice to people, they just think I'm being grandmotherly or whatever. Lol. Being nice becomes okay again after a certain age. :)
@@xzonia1I can't wait to get older!
@@kr3642 I won't say "it" gets better, but you learn how to navigate the world better over time. You get better. Love and hope to you for a smoother ride through this bumpy life in your future! :)
@xzonia1 You have really sweet advice. I am also in my 50's and I have noticed the " white hair syndrome" also. I get called ma'am a lot now.
@@howru8497 Thanks! :)
Some people conflate irony with sarcasm. The appearance of being true or real is called verisimilitude. The devil is usually somewhere in the details. Tesla once said, "If your hate could be turned into electricity, it would light up the whole world." Replace hatred with chastity, temperance, charity, diligence, patience, kindness, and humility and light up the world for our Lord. This is what authentic free energy is all about. ♥️🙏
The hallmark of a psychopath is overconfidence. That's why they call certain criminals conmen
Gilgo Beach killer was presumably active for decades! It's insane. And all the other bodies who have not been identified yet may be totally unrelated or some may still be related. You guys covered him on TBP.