Severe child abuse almost broke me. I won't let it. I got my black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu two weeks ago at 43, and it was the best day of my life. Overcome!
@@richjohnson8777I don’t think they want payback. I think that trauma is very deep and unless you’ve experienced trauma, especially sexual child abuse, you just won’t know what that’s like for a person to live with and manage the “side effects”
Not everyone takes that path because vengeance will hurt the vengeful more than anyone else. Vengeance by taking the high road, being empathetic, and understanding, is the better option in my estimation.
I was raised without a mom. This man is spot on about alot of things. I feel like I should of paid for this interview 😅 thanks for the free therapy Soft white underbelly
So glad he mentioned that someone who hasn''t been through something shouldn't be the one helping others overcome it. I've been saying this for years. You can't have had this amazing life and just sit across the desk spitting your textbook learnings at someone and expect them to improve. You have to have been there to really understand.
Peer support and lived experience. I do think being present, kind, and empathetic is helpful. Everyone’s experience of something is still an individual experience.
Profoundly true, except if that lifetime is spent examining, curing, and expounding upon what happened in childhood by creating satisfying art, perhaps that lifetime was well spent.
One of the best guests you've had on ever. I'm glad to see him talking about something other than relationships today. Although I love his talks on dating and game, I found after diving into his content I find his stuff on bigger the most interesting.
Haven't been on this channel for months. Am very happy to see that you're getting to the root of the problem. More of this content - it's supremely important.
He is spot on pretty much everything but really hits home with the Freud comment about the mothers and fathers love. As a father myself, us fathers have to be critical and show our kids the way of the world but show love in a positive way. A mix of both is a must. Have seen fathers show only critical with no love and so many grow up messed up.
Being critical of children leads to dysfunctional adults. It leads to adults incapable of trusting their own decision making. Setting boundaries is how you find that balance between discipline and love.
Women are a mystery even unto themselves. Have society agree to single mothers rearing their children in order to build a society of monsters, welcome to the jungle 😶 Female poster.
Almost done with his book. Very , very well done. It’s rare to encounter someone so learned in a scientific field that appreciates love and beauty like OT. A star in the making.
I find that living well is the best revenge. Having a good quality of life, being grateful, having a realistic but optimistic attitude, giving back, spirituality, etc is the best F you. Great talk!!
@@croissants1280 There are some among us who are so much more capable of thinking, in this example specific to psychology. Why think for yourself and come up with possible errors in thought when you could educate yourself from brilliant psychologists that came before and presently exist to garner an edge in your current perception and build on it.
@@croissants1280 True sign of intelligence it to hear and consider alternate/conflicting opinions and belief sets. The polar opposite, would be to cling to only what you know and refuse to hear new information that may conflict with that you believe to be true.
I love these interviews with Orion. Everything he says just makes so much sense to me. His references and opinions and explanations, all of it is just incredibly insightful.
Innocent and sweet parents literally don’t exist by the way. By the very nature of being an adult human we are already imperfect. Children do however become what is modelled to them. A narcissist with loving nd boundary driven parents could become functional. Like plants we grow better with nurture. Infancy this is critical. If violence and hate is normalised that’s what you will see and become, or deal with self destructive coping strategies. Hence personality disorders. Attachment disorders. Family trauma is real and we as a society need to deal with it.
Having had been born to terrible parents that did terrible things, I had to learn to take responsibility for how my trauma responses to life and living in the world affect those around me and also learn to stop making excuses and find solutions instead. Letting go of blame is the key to forward motion. The anger and resentment we hold onto for having been abused may feel justified but the fact is those feelings only serve to paralyze you and impede growth.
@@Sensiblehuman1985 Plenty of such parents that tell theirselves the same, very heavily struggle with delusions of superiority and infallibility over their own children. = The "I can't be wrong!" crowd.
I love these dudes. I just signed up to volunteer at a non-profit that helps homeless working families because of James Sexton. I've been inspired to look into studying interpersonal neurobiology and developmental psychopathology. Thank you Mark, Jim, and Orion, (and Sadia).
He just regurgitates manosphere talking points using textbook psychology phrases and terms. Not saying most of what he says isn't valid, but certainly not groundbreaking.
@@lvr8429it’s interesting to see you spend so much time posting negative things about the guy. You’re deeply fascinated with him otherwise you would not spend your one true commodity (your time) on him. Unrequited love I presume? Unquenched vengeance perhaps?
@micclay Have you ever seen his talk about the issues with diagnosing mental illnesses? Or his talk about mental illness variance between men and women based on biology and sociology? How about his episodes on resilience and strength through adversity and what that realistically looks like? He answers questions he's asked and hes asked about relationships alot. But the focal point of what I've based my opinion on in, is his full body of work.
The self-awareness and humility required to be this introspective isn’t possible with extreme narcissists. There is no “making friends” with someone that full of shame and intends to protect it at any cost.
I really really enjoyed this interview. Orion, you’re a great dude man, but I can tell that much like myself, you’ve attained this level of enlightenment from your own struggles. The lord has blessed you friend, and I’m glad you’re using your experiences in the best way possible, helping others. God bless you sir
I love these interviews with Dr Taraban. They show so much depth into his character and motivations. I watch his channel and often feel disappointed, not with him, but with the comments on his videos because it feels like some of his viewers miss the points he makes and just dump about their pain about their romantic relationships. That Dr Taraban comes at those relationship dynamics from the perspective of growth and development is so inspirational. I have his book on my list of books to read. Thank you, Mark, for such wonderful questions and thought provoking quotes. Wonderful episode!
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Yes, steve_porassss. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
@@mikekatz6024 I don't think religion has to be "idolatry". Many things are going terribly wrong, the more people chuck out the basics of our religious tradition. That vacuum is being filled with incredibly bizarre, unhealthy things. Drugs, and addictions for one.
The very first quote and Orion's explanation hit home hard. My mom has a very difficult time with this and it causes her so much pent up anger for no reason. She LOVES to be righteous and wants people to do good, but her "good" isn't the same as another person's "good". Unfortunately, I feel like this trait has been passed down to my siblings and me. But, I have learned that not everyone is seeing through the same lens as me and they haven't had the same experiences.
Been a huge fan of Dr. Taroban for a while now... I'm a pharmaceutical sales rep working in Psychiatry space. Comparing and cross referencing his advice to some of my top docs - is just awesome. The part about "enshrining the memory of your rock bottom" hit particularly hard for me... The memory of an absolute situation of despair at 27 years old is still fresh, and still used as fuel 20 years later.... Thank You for this, I really needed it.
"I have walked by stalls in the market-place where books, dog-eared and faded from their purple, have burst with a white hosanna. I have seen people crowned with a double crown, holding in either hand the crook and flail, the power and the glory. I have understood how the scar becomes a star, I have felt the flake of fire fall, miraculous and pentecostal. My yesterdays walk with me. They keep step, they are grey faces that peer over my shoulder." From William Golding's Free Fall
@@TanyaDavis954it’s validation of being wanted and usually for us men it’s our dads cause mom was absent or alcoholic or she was abusive and would emotionally torment me and tell me I would be nothing just like my father ….. but reality was he worked hard and I just wanted the “respect” I think it’s because we new our moms would never respect if they don’t respect there husband or even god …. Why would she respect her son? …… so usually we don’t think about her and most of us men don’t need a woman once we are adults we “need men to guide us still” and having “male guidance is key for us all high earning men”
@29:30 made me think of this quote: “When you're ugly, and someone loves you, you know they love you for who you are...beautiful people never know who to trust." -Drax (Guardians of the Galaxy-v2)
I had a problem with my mom until i was about 22. Everything changed when i decided to change the way i reacted to my mom when she was yelling at me. Now I’m 26 and we have a great relationship
My parents were reversed. My mother did things for us but wasn't nurturing or demonstrative with her love. My father on the other hand was very affectionate and supportive. He always made time for us, even after 10 hour days working on cars in the Arizona heat, he helped us with homework and read to us...he never once said he was too tired. My mother is the one who threw around the, "I told you so" every chance she had and still does it to this day...even at 84 she still hasn't figured out how to human.
The same in our family, although very covertly. Today I know dad ended up enabling mom toxic behavior. Knowledge is freedom, we can let go of ' the wish for it to be different ' Peace.
Thank you; you made my day. I looked up the seven lively virtues. And I saw that forgiveness is the opposite of anger. Which is how you ended this interview- forgiveness being the ultimate revenge.
Thank you for bringing us another great interview with Orion. I feel that his discussions have brought a lot of valuable insights and unlocked some of my own doors that I had no clue where the key was. Thank you both very much.
Mother, do you think they'll drop the bomb? Mother, do you think they'll like the song? Mother, do you think they'll try to break my balls? Ooh Mother, should I build the wall? Mama's gonna make all of your nightmares come true Mama's gonna put all of her fears into you Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing She won't let you fly but she might let you sing Mama's gonna keep baby cosy and warm. Mother do you think she's good enough? For me? Mother do you think she's dangerous To me? Mother will she tear your little boy apart? Ooh, ah Mother will she break my heart? Hush now baby, baby, don't you cry Mama's gonna check out all your girlfriends for you Mama won't let anyone dirty get through Mama's gonna wait up until you get in Mama will always find out where you've been Mama's gonna keep baby healthy and clean Ooh baby, ooh baby Ooh baby, you'll always be baby to me Mother, did it need to be so high? Pink Floyd musical philosophers.
Conversations with psychologists are always fascinating. If only I could meet one in real life who isn’t just a fraud counting down the seconds on the clock until our session is over 😂
@LaPlaztique I hate that. Mental health professionals are supposed to be professional and challenge you with their honest opinion about your problems. Somebody just sitting there waiting for it to be over is really no better than a disillusioned school teacher who couldn't care less about their students' well-being or their future. You take on a certain responsibility in roles like that, and to just throw that to the wind is really vile, as far as I'm concerned. It's the kind of complacency that rots us all.
I absolutely needed to see this interview. So much of this rings true for me. Not having the love of a mother or father impacted my life so profoundly, yet I still managed to become successful in spite of it all, and I parent with so much unconditional love as a result of it.
This is just incredible. Thank so much for sharing. I've been on a self developement journey, and connected so much with analogy of the burning basement. I've used that pain as fuel, and I feel so blessed to have finally learned the reason why it has affected me in this way. Everything Orion said brought me so much clarity and put words to some of life's greatest pains and enjoyments. This is one of the greatest videos SWU has ever made. Thank you.
❤❤Orion is a gift. Those who recognize true treasure are destined to grow rich. I can’t begin to comprehend misunderstanding or disputing this. Even if I wanted to oppose him, I wouldn’t find the words to challenge a single thing he’s said.❤❤
I paused & pondered many times throughout this video. His explanations are all so incredibly thought provoking. Personally, this was the most interesting episode of swu to date!
The fellow is an eminence, very knowledgeable and straight to the point. Some people don’t like to face reality, the truths that he says. All his interviews and videos are formidable!
You can be a good person and observe obvious ill behavior in another person that doesn't have anything to do with you. Remember that too. He's talking about when you become preoccupied with another's behavior.
@@hyperbolic-time-chamber-strand A person that does not abuse and/or project the bad feelings (that arise from what they refuse to contend with) onto other innocent people... well could be a good person.
If only forgiveness meant that it could be forgotten. I find it so impossible to continue to forgive a person for the same issue. Especially when they’re aware of it and don’t care.
Mark, red-pilled doesn’t mean you can’t love. The problem with “red-pilled” ideology may be because they seem to have adopted a cynical or skeptical view of relationships, love, and gender dynamics. It also lumps everyone into neat little boxes that don’t necessarily fit. But it doesn’t mean they are incapable of love.
@@bpxdurangoinc7013 Okay, sure. We rationalize to justify to deny. There are plenty of people who love God, their family and their country who are not red-pilled. You can try and claim monopoly on these things, but it doesn’t make it so. But what you wrote just shows the type of people Marks draws into his ideology. And by the way, using crude language is neither family-oriented, nor proves your point.
@@sharonlank6692 where in my statement did I exclude anyone? I was replying to your initial post that put red-pills (common sense folks) in a JUDGEMENT, a fvcking low IQ, judgement, meant to insult an entire group of people that you honestly have no idea, (obviously) who and what they believe. By the way cursing is Godly. Read your bible, hypocrite. BS again!
While it’s often true, going to agree to disagree on the point about seeing oneself in others’ disliked characteristics. It’s not always projection! Take for example, adult children of narcissistic parents. Some children will become narcissists themselves but many do not. Once you’ve seen and experienced that you can spot it in others from a mile away. Same thing with adult children of alcoholics. Spotting the behavior and abhorring it doesn’t equate being that way.
Exactly. Some can literally see through others, all the negativity just pops out, for the positivity as well. And these red flags are always accurate, it's a way of protecting oneself and others. Learning from this is making sure we are not like that, analyze and check ourselves
This may be THE most fascinating video I’ve ever seen on your channel. It might even be one of the most fascinating videos I have ever seen. Thank you so much for this.
You spot it, you got it. 💯. Thats a recovery slogan too....and applies to the negative comments here btw!! Even psychologists have issues fyi. Very interesting talk. Love what he said about addiction and recovery. The scar becomes a star ❤ Thanks Mark and Orion.
Yes but they're normally attempt to sort it out and don't bitterly spit it at women with such contempt then accuse them of the very thing he's doing himself. Why do you think his licence is at risk? He's blind to himself. I admire Jordon but not his viper tongue which is his problem no one else's.
Yeah, imagine your Dad having a lot of issues which negatively impacted you growing up, him still being very verbally abusive to you as an adult & him being a retired Psychologist. It's even more of a double whammy when they theoretically "know better."
Mark I don’t think you know you are doing Gods work some of ur videos help me get closer to the Lord especially this one. Wow learned so much! Super engaging and intriguing just wow
Severe child abuse almost broke me. I won't let it. I got my black belt in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu two weeks ago at 43, and it was the best day of my life. Overcome!
Well done!
Amazing! We are cheering for you. ❤
same here, i'm 43 years old too. What helped me a lot are EMDR and IFS.
What are u fighting man?
@@timpaulson9514 So true! It's a reset.
Some of the people with the hardest childhood are the kindest people I know. They will to the death make sure no one experiences what they did
That's true but I also have known people with hard childhoods that want payback and they will make your life miserable if you are involved with them.
Or they become their parents and continues the cycle
These are the lucky ones who don't develop personality disorders
Exactly the reason why I chose not to become a parent@@kookou13
@@richjohnson8777I don’t think they want payback. I think that trauma is very deep and unless you’ve experienced trauma, especially sexual child abuse, you just won’t know what that’s like for a person to live with and manage the “side effects”
"The best revenge is not to be like your enemy." - Marcus Aurelius.
🎯🌟
Love that guy
Nah dude that's just called being healthy the best revenge is to bring hell to your enemy
@@refaelbhatia8034 Revenge is for weak minds.
@@SneakySteevy ya 100% that what i said
Behind every angry adult is a scared child - great video Mark
most of the time (im my experience anyway) that's due to the parents... and realising it can take so much time :s
And that scared child feels out of control.
This isn’t true
Unhappy child
@@jaredmelloIn today’s world, people go out of their way deliberately to fck with you.
“ IF YOU WANT TO TURN A PERSON INTO A VILLAIN PUNISH HIM FOR DOING SOMETHING RIGHT “ wow
This is how most of society currently operates ^
Nietzsche
Not everyone takes that path because vengeance will hurt the vengeful more than anyone else. Vengeance by taking the high road, being empathetic, and understanding, is the better option in my estimation.
Oh my gosh yes!!!
I was raised without a mom. This man is spot on about alot of things. I feel like I should of paid for this interview 😅 thanks for the free therapy Soft white underbelly
Appreciate the fact you got it for free
My mother raised me, but she never showed affection as she is untreated mentally ill. I am successful, but I have never felt loved.
that's what "thanks" means.
@batcactus6046 thanks is a very small payment for a great video
@Decades-pl2kl lol buddy you need therapy yourself
So glad he mentioned that someone who hasn''t been through something shouldn't be the one helping others overcome it. I've been saying this for years. You can't have had this amazing life and just sit across the desk spitting your textbook learnings at someone and expect them to improve. You have to have been there to really understand.
THANK YOU..
I've been saying this too for 30 years
Peer support and lived experience.
I do think being present, kind, and empathetic is helpful. Everyone’s experience of something is still an individual experience.
Yes, and no one should be a teacher unless they have children.
“A lucky person's lifetime is cured by childhood, while an unlucky person's lifetime is spent curing childhood.” --Alfred Adler
💯
Oh god! Yes!
This!
Profoundly true, except if that lifetime is spent examining, curing, and expounding upon what happened in childhood by creating satisfying art, perhaps that lifetime was well spent.
Wow. Yes!
One of the best guests you've had on ever. I'm glad to see him talking about something other than relationships today. Although I love his talks on dating and game, I found after diving into his content I find his stuff on bigger the most interesting.
Every interview you've done with Mr. Taraban is superb. What a gift!
He has his own UA-cam channel and its great. ❤
After watching recent divorce lawyer interview, I wished another interview with Orion would come out. And here it is! Thank you, going to watch!
Haven't been on this channel for months. Am very happy to see that you're getting to the root of the problem. More of this content - it's supremely important.
He is spot on pretty much everything but really hits home with the Freud comment about the mothers and fathers love. As a father myself, us fathers have to be critical and show our kids the way of the world but show love in a positive way. A mix of both is a must. Have seen fathers show only critical with no love and so many grow up messed up.
My critical father ruined my relationships with men my entire life.
Being critical of children leads to dysfunctional adults. It leads to adults incapable of trusting their own decision making. Setting boundaries is how you find that balance between discipline and love.
Women are a mystery even unto themselves. Have society agree to single mothers rearing their children in order to build a society of monsters, welcome to the jungle 😶 Female poster.
@@flipdiva0007 that's because your dad's real motive was to _be_ critical, as opposed to using honest, responsive criticism to be constructive.
@@michaelallen1154 indeed
Almost done with his book. Very , very well done. It’s rare to encounter someone so learned in a scientific field that appreciates love and beauty like OT. A star in the making.
He is a relevant, realistic, articulate psychologist. Utterly refreshing! So much wisdom for all of us!
Love that they listened to us in the comments and brought him back with no interruptions
Yeah the lawyers most psychotic guest weve seen so far.
I find that living well is the best revenge. Having a good quality of life, being grateful, having a realistic but optimistic attitude, giving back, spirituality, etc is the best F you. Great talk!!
I could sit with this dude’s thoughts all day
why don't you learn to think for yourself?
@@croissants1280 Sound advice, however, I find that goal to be much more attainable given exposure to the perceptions and insights of others… 😘
@@croissants1280 There are some among us who are so much more capable of thinking, in this example specific to psychology. Why think for yourself and come up with possible errors in thought when you could educate yourself from brilliant psychologists that came before and presently exist to garner an edge in your current perception and build on it.
@@croissants1280 And how many covid jabs have you had so far?
@@croissants1280 True sign of intelligence it to hear and consider alternate/conflicting opinions and belief sets.
The polar opposite, would be to cling to only what you know and refuse to hear new information that may conflict with that you believe to be true.
I love these interviews with Orion. Everything he says just makes so much sense to me. His references and opinions and explanations, all of it is just incredibly insightful.
The human condition is this man's passion, and I'm here for it!
It's hard to comprehend that you can be born this sweet innocent baby to a parent who is a monster.....and your life on earth is scarred forever.
Many are born monsters with sweet, innocent parents. Nature and nurture are equally powerful.
Innocent and sweet parents literally don’t exist by the way. By the very nature of being an adult human we are already imperfect.
Children do however become what is modelled to them. A narcissist with loving nd boundary driven parents could become functional. Like plants we grow better with nurture. Infancy this is critical.
If violence and hate is normalised that’s what you will see and become, or deal with self destructive coping strategies. Hence personality disorders. Attachment disorders. Family trauma is real and we as a society need to deal with it.
@@Dalabombanayeah it's real. That's a fact.
Having had been born to terrible parents that did terrible things, I had to learn to take responsibility for how my trauma responses to life and living in the world affect those around me and also learn to stop making excuses and find solutions instead. Letting go of blame is the key to forward motion. The anger and resentment we hold onto for having been abused may feel justified but the fact is those feelings only serve to paralyze you and impede growth.
@@Sensiblehuman1985 Plenty of such parents that tell theirselves the same, very heavily struggle with delusions of superiority and infallibility over their own children.
= The "I can't be wrong!" crowd.
I love these dudes. I just signed up to volunteer at a non-profit that helps homeless working families because of James Sexton. I've been inspired to look into studying interpersonal neurobiology and developmental psychopathology. Thank you Mark, Jim, and Orion, (and Sadia).
“Kindness and love has so much more potential for creating change than hate and judgement.” -Mark Laita, the interviewer
Orion makes up 90% of my watch time on UA-cam. This guy is out here truly doing the Lords work.
I agree brother💪🏿
He just regurgitates manosphere talking points using textbook psychology phrases and terms. Not saying most of what he says isn't valid, but certainly not groundbreaking.
@@lvr8429it’s interesting to see you spend so much time posting negative things about the guy. You’re deeply fascinated with him otherwise you would not spend your one true commodity (your time) on him. Unrequited love I presume? Unquenched vengeance perhaps?
@micclay Have you ever seen his talk about the issues with diagnosing mental illnesses? Or his talk about mental illness variance between men and women based on biology and sociology? How about his episodes on resilience and strength through adversity and what that realistically looks like? He answers questions he's asked and hes asked about relationships alot. But the focal point of what I've based my opinion on in, is his full body of work.
@@lvr8429 And how many covid jabs have you had so far there?
The self-awareness and humility required to be this introspective isn’t possible with extreme narcissists. There is no “making friends” with someone that full of shame and intends to protect it at any cost.
How have some of y’all formed an opinion on this interview of it JUST released 10 min ago 😂😂😂 there’s no way you even watched the whole thing
Right! 😂😂😂
They’ve probably watched other interviews with him and didn’t like him, It’s just as much reflection of them as it is him.
Oh, they've watched him before, some have probably looked him up on his channel too.
I like the guy though.
Another reflection of the debilitating problems seen within society
simple, people are commenting, having a conversation, interacting with the video as it plays.
I really really enjoyed this interview. Orion, you’re a great dude man, but I can tell that much like myself, you’ve attained this level of enlightenment from your own struggles. The lord has blessed you friend, and I’m glad you’re using your experiences in the best way possible, helping others. God bless you sir
I love these interviews with Dr Taraban. They show so much depth into his character and motivations. I watch his channel and often feel disappointed, not with him, but with the comments on his videos because it feels like some of his viewers miss the points he makes and just dump about their pain about their romantic relationships. That Dr Taraban comes at those relationship dynamics from the perspective of growth and development is so inspirational. I have his book on my list of books to read. Thank you, Mark, for such wonderful questions and thought provoking quotes. Wonderful episode!
Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life.
Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Australia. Really need!
Yes, steve_porassss. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place.
Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac.
He's constantly talking about killing someone.
He's violent. Anyone reading this
Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
Is he on instagram?
Yes he is steve_porassss
He looks so good, beautiful eyes , nice suit and he makes so much sense in all he says, I really enjoyed this interview 💓
Thank you Mark, this dude is a genius. What you do truly helps people probably more than you know!
Orion never fails to impress with his brilliance, depth and experience...great as always
Orion is a great communicator. I could watch him all day. So attentive and precise!
💯💖👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I have BPD and that metal latter metaphor has me in tears. Beautiful. Thank you for sharing. ❤
Idk why ppl hate on him so much. Hes a therapist and sees a lot of worst case scenarios and tries to understand and fix whats going on.
Virtue - Sin
Chastity - Lust - Libido
Faith - Idolatry
Good Works - Greed
Concord - Discord
Sobriety - Indulgence
Patience - Wrath
Humility - Pride
Idolatry is a form of faith and part of many religions. This comment reads as uneducated.
Idolatry is religion, faith is relationship
@@mikekatz6024 I don't think religion has to be "idolatry".
Many things are going terribly wrong, the more people chuck out the basics of our religious tradition.
That vacuum is being filled with incredibly bizarre, unhealthy things. Drugs, and addictions for one.
It's simple.
The seven deadly sins.
@@mikekatz6024 Faith in God not religion
The very first quote and Orion's explanation hit home hard. My mom has a very difficult time with this and it causes her so much pent up anger for no reason. She LOVES to be righteous and wants people to do good, but her "good" isn't the same as another person's "good". Unfortunately, I feel like this trait has been passed down to my siblings and me. But, I have learned that not everyone is seeing through the same lens as me and they haven't had the same experiences.
Been a huge fan of Dr. Taroban for a while now... I'm a pharmaceutical sales rep working in Psychiatry space. Comparing and cross referencing his advice to some of my top docs - is just awesome. The part about "enshrining the memory of your rock bottom" hit particularly hard for me... The memory of an absolute situation of despair at 27 years old is still fresh, and still used as fuel 20 years later.... Thank You for this, I really needed it.
Psych meds kill more than street drugs. You are murderous fucking dogshit.
"I have walked by stalls in the market-place where books, dog-eared and faded from their purple, have burst with a white hosanna. I have seen people crowned with a double crown, holding in either hand the crook and flail, the power and the glory. I have understood how the scar becomes a star, I have felt the flake of fire fall, miraculous and pentecostal. My yesterdays walk with me. They keep step, they are grey faces that peer over my shoulder." From William Golding's Free Fall
Thanks.
Have been missing my readers/lit group.
Orion is one man I can listen to and not want to correct. That’s big. ❤
Brilliant recording Orion is spot on. High achieving person here, all to please my father.
But why not your Mother? Who was more present curious in raising u?
@@TanyaDavis954How do you know that? She might have been a monster
@@TanyaDavis954it’s validation of being wanted and usually for us men it’s our dads cause mom was absent or alcoholic or she was abusive and would emotionally torment me and tell me I would be nothing just like my father ….. but reality was he worked hard and I just wanted the “respect” I think it’s because we new our moms would never respect if they don’t respect there husband or even god …. Why would she respect her son? …… so usually we don’t think about her and most of us men don’t need a woman once we are adults we “need men to guide us still” and having “male guidance is key for us all high earning men”
Orion is the voice we’ve needed for long time. Given time to share his views, people (like me) will find answers to life long questions.
58:57 "If you want to turn someone into a villain, you should punish them for doing something right."
I don't miss any episodes where Orion is invited...especially in this channel 🙌🏽🙏🏾
He's always spot on.
@29:30 made me think of this quote: “When you're ugly, and someone loves you, you know they love you for who you are...beautiful people never know who to trust."
-Drax (Guardians of the Galaxy-v2)
Beauty is a judgement
@@BrainWaveS101 it’s a quote from guardians of the Galaxy
Orion.... the deliverer of uncomfortable but essential truths. Thank you Mark and Orion for another insightful interview
I’ve been wanting a video like this for the longest while!! Thank you SWU🖤
Always enjoying listening to this man. Even better with a good “interviewer”. 👍
Dr Tarabans’s mind is truly fascinating.
This is BRILLIANT. Thank you Mark & Orion. Really great interview. 👌
So well-spoken. What a gifted mind. Thank you
Beautiful and authentic speaker. Thank you Mark for inviting Mr. Taraban.
I had a problem with my mom until i was about 22. Everything changed when i decided to change the way i reacted to my mom when she was yelling at me. Now I’m 26 and we have a great relationship
What a highly intelligent man cognitively and emotionally.
Orion. Love the fact you are loosening up and doing a bit of swearing 💪🏼
This episode blew my mind! The knowledge is mind-blowing. It's like he's speaking in riddles but I totally get it.
My parents were reversed. My mother did things for us but wasn't nurturing or demonstrative with her love. My father on the other hand was very affectionate and supportive. He always made time for us, even after 10 hour days working on cars in the Arizona heat, he helped us with homework and read to us...he never once said he was too tired. My mother is the one who threw around the, "I told you so" every chance she had and still does it to this day...even at 84 she still hasn't figured out how to human.
The same in our family, although very covertly. Today I know dad ended up enabling mom toxic behavior.
Knowledge is freedom, we can let go of ' the wish for it to be different '
Peace.
She said "I told you so".... that's it? You took it that hard?
Thank you; you made my day. I looked up the seven lively virtues. And I saw that forgiveness is the opposite of anger. Which is how you ended this interview- forgiveness being the ultimate revenge.
3 mins in and I know I’m watching all of this!
To resolve the mess in oneself... simply follow this zen riddle..
Desire not to desire... without desiring to desire not to desire.
Ah, never cared for that stuff...
Thank you for bringing us another great interview with Orion. I feel that his discussions have brought a lot of valuable insights and unlocked some of my own doors that I had no clue where the key was. Thank you both very much.
Mother, do you think they'll drop the bomb?
Mother, do you think they'll like the song?
Mother, do you think they'll try to break my balls?
Ooh
Mother, should I build the wall?
Mama's gonna make all of your nightmares come true
Mama's gonna put all of her fears into you
Mama's gonna keep you right here under her wing
She won't let you fly but she might let you sing
Mama's gonna keep baby cosy and warm.
Mother do you think she's good enough?
For me?
Mother do you think she's dangerous
To me?
Mother will she tear your little boy apart?
Ooh, ah
Mother will she break my heart?
Hush now baby, baby, don't you cry
Mama's gonna check out all your girlfriends for you
Mama won't let anyone dirty get through
Mama's gonna wait up until you get in
Mama will always find out where you've been
Mama's gonna keep baby healthy and clean
Ooh baby, ooh baby
Ooh baby, you'll always be baby to me
Mother, did it need to be so high?
Pink Floyd musical philosophers.
Conversations with psychologists are always fascinating. If only I could meet one in real life who isn’t just a fraud counting down the seconds on the clock until our session is over 😂
Right? Or mine that starts to nod off during our sessions!
@LaPlaztique I hate that. Mental health professionals are supposed to be professional and challenge you with their honest opinion about your problems. Somebody just sitting there waiting for it to be over is really no better than a disillusioned school teacher who couldn't care less about their students' well-being or their future. You take on a certain responsibility in roles like that, and to just throw that to the wind is really vile, as far as I'm concerned. It's the kind of complacency that rots us all.
So profound. Loved this conversation, and saved it to my favorite videos. Thank you for both of you!
3:12 why is this relatable only 3 mins in. I can see I am going to gain sooo much from this interview. Thank you.
This is a phenomenal and informative interview. No confusing jargon. Just spot on advice and commentary.
Great speaker, great guy! I love to listen to what he has to. Greetings from Austria!
Hello from Florida! 🌞
I absolutely needed to see this interview. So much of this rings true for me. Not having the love of a mother or father impacted my life so profoundly, yet I still managed to become successful in spite of it all, and I parent with so much unconditional love as a result of it.
I LOVE interviews like this. Thank you again mark. Can’t wait to get through the whole thing 💗
This is just incredible. Thank so much for sharing.
I've been on a self developement journey, and connected so much with analogy of the burning basement. I've used that pain as fuel, and I feel so blessed to have finally learned the reason why it has affected me in this way.
Everything Orion said brought me so much clarity and put words to some of life's greatest pains and enjoyments.
This is one of the greatest videos SWU has ever made.
Thank you.
❤❤Orion is a gift. Those who recognize true treasure are destined to grow rich. I can’t begin to comprehend misunderstanding or disputing this. Even if I wanted to oppose him, I wouldn’t find the words to challenge a single thing he’s said.❤❤
Marsha Linehan’s analogy of the relationship between a sponsor & sponsee … WOW!! Absolutely makes sense! Never heard it put that way.
Orion needs his own channel. His voice and the way he talks is captivating.
He has one called PsycHacks.
@@IfSemper thank you
@@catybehr You're welcome.
He has cold dead eyes and a flat affect. PsycHacks looks and sounds like a psychopath training his victims.
@@JDWDMCthat's what happens to anyone who has rid themselves of many of this world's delusions
To know what to do and not do it, that’s sin. I think this is the best explanation I’ve ever heard
love the way his suit matches his eyes! smart!
5:06 How eloquently said. My shadow casted and projected onto others, judgement to where they’re at, but not their final destination. 🥰
Your interviews with Orion have changed my life for the better. Thank you to you both 🙏
I paused & pondered many times throughout this video. His explanations are all so incredibly thought provoking. Personally, this was the most interesting episode of swu to date!
Mind blowing interview Mark. Thank you
The fellow is an eminence, very knowledgeable and straight to the point. Some people don’t like to face reality, the truths that he says. All his interviews and videos are formidable!
You can be a good person and observe obvious ill behavior in another person that doesn't have anything to do with you. Remember that too. He's talking about when you become preoccupied with another's behavior.
unintentional reaction has a motivation .
What's a "good" person ?
Ask your self that question?
@@hyperbolic-time-chamber-strand A person that does not abuse and/or project the bad feelings (that arise from what they refuse to contend with) onto other innocent people... well could be a good person.
@@hyperbolic-time-chamber-strand If you don't know there's no way of explaining it to you
Obrian is the only person that brings me to this channel and everytime I watch a video of him, its very refreshing yet shakes me deeply to the core.
This is probably my favorite person on this channel
Everything this man says resonates on such a deep and fundamental way. Definitely needed to hear this
Wow i love that last line "a better revenge is forgiveness". Wow that's going to stick with me and I'll try my best.
Not always needed
If they don’t like you, they don’t like you.. It’s time you set boundaries…
It’s very hard to forgive.
If only forgiveness meant that it could be forgotten. I find it so impossible to continue to forgive a person for the same issue. Especially when they’re aware of it and don’t care.
@@LaPlaztique exactly, it’s hard when they know what they do and keep doing it. I can’t forgive but I can walk away.
Love him. Thanks Mark for adding different paths of lives to your channel. It keeps things fresh.
Mark, red-pilled doesn’t mean you can’t love. The problem with
“red-pilled” ideology may be because they seem to have adopted a cynical or skeptical view of relationships, love, and gender dynamics. It also lumps everyone into neat little boxes that don’t necessarily fit. But it doesn’t mean they are incapable of love.
Bullshizza. Red-pilled means they love God, Country and know family brings true happiness.
@@bpxdurangoinc7013 Okay, sure. We rationalize to justify to deny. There are plenty of people who love God, their family and their country who are not red-pilled. You can try and claim monopoly on these things, but it doesn’t make it so. But what you wrote just shows the type of people Marks draws into his ideology. And by the way, using crude language is neither family-oriented, nor proves your point.
@@sharonlank6692 where in my statement did I exclude anyone?
I was replying to your initial post that put red-pills (common sense folks) in a JUDGEMENT, a fvcking low IQ, judgement, meant to insult an entire group of people that you honestly have no idea, (obviously) who and what they believe. By the way cursing is Godly. Read your bible, hypocrite. BS again!
While it’s often true, going to agree to disagree on the point about seeing oneself in others’ disliked characteristics. It’s not always projection! Take for example, adult children of narcissistic parents. Some children will become narcissists themselves but many do not. Once you’ve seen and experienced that you can spot it in others from a mile away. Same thing with adult children of alcoholics. Spotting the behavior and abhorring it doesn’t equate being that way.
"The only normal people are the ones you don't know that well." Genius Mark.
Beauty & intelligence = Dr. Orion Taraban. Thank you, Doc. Greetings from Rome, Italy (born in San Francisco). Second time watching 😊
Right off the bat I have a problem with if you spot it you got it. What about anger towards pedophilia?
I agree with you. I think anger towards pedophilia is deep in our mammalian brain to protect children
Exactly. Some can literally see through others, all the negativity just pops out, for the positivity as well. And these red flags are always accurate, it's a way of protecting oneself and others. Learning from this is making sure we are not like that, analyze and check ourselves
This may be THE most fascinating video I’ve ever seen on your channel. It might even be one of the most fascinating videos I have ever seen. Thank you so much for this.
You spot it, you got it. 💯. Thats a recovery slogan too....and applies to the negative comments here btw!! Even psychologists have issues fyi. Very interesting talk. Love what he said about addiction and recovery. The scar becomes a star ❤ Thanks Mark and Orion.
Yes but they're normally attempt to sort it out and don't bitterly spit it at women with such contempt then accuse them of the very thing he's doing himself.
Why do you think his licence is at risk?
He's blind to himself.
I admire Jordon but not his viper tongue which is his problem no one else's.
Yeah, imagine your Dad having a lot of issues which negatively impacted you growing up, him still being very verbally abusive to you as an adult & him being a retired Psychologist. It's even more of a double whammy when they theoretically "know better."
@@BBTL1234Orion is in good standing with the California Board of Psychology.
This is one of the greatest SWU videos ever posted. I agree with 100% of what he said. So raw and real.
Great to hear some things from Orion that don’t have to do with dating. Nice and refreshing
Yeah bc his opinions on dating are problematic to say the least
Mark I don’t think you know you are doing Gods work some of ur videos help me get closer to the Lord especially this one. Wow learned so much! Super engaging and intriguing just wow
This all hits very close to my home… thank you.
I like this guy. Every one of his interviews gives me a new perspective and a chance to ponder.
Woah Woah He is a psychological GENIUS! Transcendental........
Damn! This man's perspective and insight into the human psyche is fascinating!