You get four, 7 ounce boxes for 39$. Probably made in a lab. You can get more Froot Loops cereal for less. Literally anything is cheaper and you get more of it.
UPDATE: So I drove by there on 04/03/2024, and I saw activity in the parking lot. Maybe it isn't as abandoned as I thought. Or could be potential buyers/renters looking to check it out? I work in the film industry, and almost everyday I pass by what remains of Klaspy Csupo’s old studio on Highland Blvd in Hollywood (it’s a small grey two-story building). The logo is still on the front of the building, and the side walls are adorned with paintings of their characters (including the Rugrats), and yet its abandoned. The parking lot is starting to get overgrown, the paint is peeling. It’s an eerie sight to what was once the dominate studio that worked for Nickelodeon.
Angelica being mean was true to life though, as kids can be exceptionally cruel to others with and without realizing it. Especially when viewed from the eyes of a child because even the littlest things can be world crushing to a child, and experiencing these things helps them grow emotionally. So the fact they argued about that shows how little they truly know about kids despite being parents
I think its less that they knew little about kids or they didn't like portraying characters as mean. Even though the show needs a villain so there to be conflict and her manipulating the babies causes them to go on adventures.
From what I recall, Germaine wanted Angelica to be not only nasty, but more rounded than your average bully character and was interested in exploring how her spoiled rotten background made her the way she is and Csupo was largely on his side, while Klasky just saw her as an unrepentant villain and didn't understand why Csupo and Germaine would even want her on the show to begin with. Though I could be remembering wrong.
Piggybacking on this to say Angelica was pretty relatable to me as a kid. I didn't get much attention from my parents, especially my mother, while growing up, and also underwent horrific abuse at the hands of many people at a daycare when I was only a toddler. I even appreciated the depictions of Drew and Charlotte. They were definitely well-intentioned. You can really see this in particular in the Rugrats Go Wild movie, especially for Charlotte. But yeah, this is to say I can get why she was the way she was. For a time outside of daycare, I was a tyrant and massive bully. It was easy to do that when it seemed literally everyone wanted my blood. I had to learn the hard way that that wasn't true by the person who was able to put up with me and treated me well, and I'm thankful for that. That didn't take long. It's been a long time since I've watched All Grown Up, but doesn't Angelica turn out okay by that point? My memory says she's does, but idk if that's actually the case.
Some say that the Klasky Csupo logo looks terrifyingly weird, but the studio really went hard with the smooth animation and the "ugly" art style that pretty much embraced the 90s unapologetic weirdness that Nickelodeon used to be known for.
I used to be scared of that logo Till I watched it again years later down the line and looking back it’s not that scary it’s kinda creepy and weird but Its a cool logo that symbolizes what they are That’s, what splaat is It’s a symbol that they’re not ashamed of making ugly irreverent cool cartoons on the fly. Like duckman and aaahh real monsters. some underrated gems like immigrants. (Which is arguably the best cartoon that spike tv picked up but sadly bailed out on the last minute making immigrants end up just being a compilation movie.) and cool music videos like shadrach by the beastie boys Which again made sense why they chose klasky csupo to do their music video their story is similar to klasky csupo’s in making creative trippy messy stuff with the stuff they had lying around. I wish they continue doing weird irreverent crazy cartoons instead of just milking rugrats.
@@Dogman2605yeah, I thought the comment was about the klasky csupo logo the one that has splaat on it, and how people thought it was creepy and I wanted to give my take on what that logo represents and why it’s weird.
I think the thing that really killed All Grown Up! is how old the kids were supposed to be. It felt like they were trying to tell a story about high schoolers, but the kids were all around 10 with stories that mostly felt like we were dealing with 10 year olds.
Dude seriously! As Told By Ginger is seriously one of my favorite animated shows of all time. It has continuity, serious issues kids have dealt with, and amazing characters that leave their own flavor to the show. I’m still devastated they were canceled after only 3 seasons. This studio was gods gift to our generation and I’m not even religious! 😭
I thought it was unwatchable. The side plots with the little brother are so tonally different. The mom thinking a snake was growing in her stomach was the dumbest thing I've seen a TV parent do.
@@MaliceInCandyland In Rugrats the parents are constantly losing track of their infants and in the Wild Thornberries a girl gets a spell cast on her that lets her talk to animals, but you couldn’t handle the weird brother in As Told By Ginger? It’s a cartoon. Do you also hate that the school bus is magic in The Magic School Bus?
I always thought it was underrated. It touched on TONS of subjects no other cartoon of the time would like bringing up Sex-Ed class, talking about absentee parents, and talking about depression and suicide. The show was also described as a "Feminist Masterpiece" but was still liked by boys because it was still a great show with relatable characters and didnt go the usual feminist route of either being so girly that most guys cant relate or going the dark route of just hating on anything remotely masculine. Honestly as far as "girl shows liked by guys" I think it's almost on the same level, if smaller scale, to My Little Pony in that it's a girl orientated show still loved by dudes. I have a wang and watched every episode growing up and my guy friends loved it too.
@@artistfloor9suspension of disbelief doesn't quite work like that. magic in storytelling is somewhat of a wildcard that lets storytellers get away with certain things that wouldn't normally happen. it's a way of explaining away a certain amount of impossibility that most of us will humor in exchange for a good story. someone's perfectly ordinary mother whose role is normally to be the voice of reason believing something impossible that a reasonable mother should not believe with no explanation offered (mental illness, temporary insanity, magic, some sort of special snake that can survive digestion) is bad writing.
I worked at KC from '96 to '03 as a colorist then color supervisor on Duckman, Rugrats, Wild Thornberrys, Rocket Power, As Told by Ginger, The Wacky Adventures of Ronald McDonald, Stressed Eric and then a background painter for the Chuckie cloud sequence in Rugrats in Paris, and finally colorist for The Wild Thornberrys movie and Rugrats Go Wild... it was an amazing time!
I thought you were going to say something intersting instead of just bragging. What about how it was or what you learn or something? I guess it is true but the fact you felt like doing a list of everything you did and thats it haha
Duckman!!! I’d give ANYTHING to have Duckman back!!!!! I used to own all the DVDs and would give anything to have them released on digital and to have that show come back
Saberspark, thank you for touching on the work of Everett Peck in this video :) He was one of my professors during my senior year at CSU Long Beach in 2020 and I remember that he always gave me and my fellow classmates nothing but positivity and encouragement on our projects, especially during the covid quarantine. He sadly passed away in 2022 and I never knew how influential he was in the animation industry until he passed away. So thank you a million times for sharing his story :)
Between Rugrats and All grown up I didn't realize that it lasted nearly 18 years. That's impressive for a cartoon. I genuinely thought All grown up was a one season show.
It still didn't end with All Grown Up, as there were some direct-to-video Rugrats specials and the short-lived spinoff series Preschool Daze that came after.
Nope. All Grown Up was a five-season show. Pre-School Daze only lived for four episodes that was glued into one television special. While it technically did air after All Grown Up in 2008 in the US, it originally aired in the UK _during_ the original run of All Grown Up in 2005. I guess Nickelodeon in the US was just not ready for us to see it yet. I am a UA-cam channel based in the United States.
"All Grown Up" may have been a weak show overall, but it did have one brilliant line that has stuck in my head for almost 20 years: "D'ya ever wonder what Dil would be like if we hadn't dropped him on his head?"
"Comedy should provoke. It should blast through prejudices, challenge preconceptions. Comedy should always leave you different than when it found you. Sure humor can hurt - even alienate - but the risk is better than the alternative; a steady diet of innocuous, childproof, flavorless mush. Demand to be challenged, to be offended, to be treated like thinking, reasoning adults! And raise your children to be the same! Don't let a comedian, a network, a congressional committee, or an evil genius take away your freedom to laugh at whatever you want!"
@@collaterale1 I love that quote. Especially since that quote predated the existence of shows like South Park so it really showed how tame comedy was back then. His rant about mental health in “A Room with a Bellevue” is also brilliant.
FUN FACT: The term 'Shoobies' originated in South Jersey and on East Coast beaches. It made its way to SoCal because of surfers traveling there to ride the waves. It's not a dated term [in those circles] and is a synonym with 'Bennys'.
i'm late but i was about to say that. i'm from south jersey and had to do a double take when i heard the word in the video lol, it's still used all the time here... and yes, it might as well be a slur. damn shoobies.
I'm definitely of the opinion that Rugrats took a nosedive in quality after Paul Germain and his writers left. I feel silly saying this about a kids cartoon about talking babies, but that initial run of episodes had an edge to them that the later seasons and movies lack. The jokes and scenarios were darker, the kids were allowed to be meaner, and the adults would make jokes and references that flew right over the heads of the children watching. I can watch a lot of those earlier episodes now in my thirties, and they still hold up. I actually appreciate some of the humor more now than I did growing up. Later seasons were just too sickeningly sweet for my tastes.
Agree, I think people confuse the fact that the post hiatus season but pre Dil was good. That season which premiered in 97 was already pretty bad and felt absolutely nothing like the OG run aside from aesthetics. But the first three seasons are on par with early SpongeBob and Rocko as being the best things Nickelodeon ever did.
@@desecrator09 I remember being excited at the time when they started premiering new episodes, but even as a kid I could immediately tell something was off. The animation is obviously different, but also the characters just didn't feel right to me anymore. It felt dumbed down.
@@lanceturley7745exactly. Childhood me never liked Dil or any of the movies. And I felt like I outgrew the series before Kimmy was introduced. Those earlier seasons definitely felt like a higher quality. Which is odd with shows like Wild Thornberries and Rocket Power coming after and dealing with more mature subject matter.
I recall hearing how some of the writers in early seasons got into arguments about Angelica in early seasons, but they felt she was too mean. I guess that explains why she is pretty dumb down in later seasons.
It's even funnier when you realize that without The Wild Thornberrys, they wouldn't have set up a cinematic universe 10 years before Iron Man was even released! They started it with The Rugrats Movie! And also like Iron Man, Rugrats had a sequel and introduced another standalone movie from another franchise, The Wild Thornberrys. And then both shows crossed over with Rugrats Go Wild! And the universe goes even further because there's a comic where the Rockets babysit the babies! Oh, and I guess one of them dreamed up the "AAAH!" Real Monsters in one episode.
Some time ago I watched some episodes again. It brought back a lot of nostalgia. The show has a lot of the charm I remember, but Eliza... She is a horrible and incompetent main character for what feels like 90% of the time she's on screen. There are times her childish naivety is passable, but there were so many times I wished she would get her head kicked in by how annoyingly stupid she was. Her family were the best part of the show.
@@dianslabbert504I remember when she was in the Andes Mountains with Nigel, and she treated him horribly because she thought his technique on overcoming high altitude asphyxia was stupid. He ended up saving her life.
Angelica almost always got in trouble at the end of the episode... and some kids are just awful! Especially spoiled ones like Angelica. That's part of what made her the most interesting character to kid!me. I have quite a bit of respect for Ms. Klasky, but we're just going to have to part company on that one.
I have no shame in saying that Angelica was one of my favorite characters in the series. I even had the doll of her as a child and treated it like Angelica was with Cynthia. 😅
I had an incredibly mean older sister growing up, and Angelica made me feel valid. Adults always told me she was "just playing", but seeing adults acknowledge and punish her behavior made me feel less whiny or crazy. Kids need a safe avenue to see conflict so they can understand it
I get the Angelica debate especially when you are dealing with impressionable children, but she wasn't really that bad. She was just spoiled and self-centered, yes she bullied babies, but it was just mainly her just calling them dumb and lying to them about he world and then experiencing it for themselves. And like someone said in the comment selection she was almost always punished in some way and she even had Susie as her enemy to humble her.
It’s insane to me that Angelica was such a controversial character amongst adults when most of the kids I knew (including myself) would never have even watched Rugrats in the first place if she wasn’t in it. She was by far the most interesting character and an actually formidable villain for only being a toddler. Now she’s a pop culture icon. Just goes to show that adults often have no idea what kids actually want to see.
I would just like to point out that Sundae (The dog in the McDonalds cartoon) was not an animatronic but was a suit worn by Verne Troyer. The guy who played Mini-Me from Austin Powers.
Wow Verne was a legend. The suit was to be very heavy though since if you have seen the costumed characters at places like disney and Orlando studios you know those suits weigh a couple of pounds so had robotics to that and well you need a lot of fluids just to stay alive!
Honestly I will have to say that As Told By Ginger is one of the most underrated Nikctoons of all time, right down to the massive character development and subverting a lot of cartoon stereotypes like not aging or wearing the same outfit everyday and by them having characters who actually age and wear different outfits this show is simply iconic!
My only complaint was that some of the characters were absolutely irritating and a few really important episodes had no follow up (e.g. that episode where gingers friends tried to separate her from her boyfriend) and things went on like nothing happened. Everything else was amazing about it though.
What I liked about the studio was that, regardless of genre, there were always good adults (except for Aaaah, Real Monsters, but that's to be expected because the only adult is, well, a literal monster). Rugrats' parents were all flawed, but they still tried their best. Lois Foutley was stern, but fair. Ray Rocket allowed his kids a lot of freedom, but still had reasonable boundaries. And Nigel Thornberry was an icon.
Marianne Thornberry was very much a wise woman who kept her household in shape given how she had to shoot her husband's TV show, cook the meals, clean the convee, tutor Eliza and Debbie, and satisfy those particular needs of Nigel.
Just wanted to say Everett Peck was an amazing guy! He was my Character Design professor back in college and his class is what solidified my decision of wanting to be in character/visual development. He was one of the nicest people I ever knew while also being an amazing professor and we kept in touch years after I graduated. His passing was really devastating so I'm so happy people appreciate his work
Yesss as someone disappointed by the change in season three, but respects how they tried to evolve with their audience, I’d actually love the a reboot of it. The first two seasons were ahead of their time and so good 💗
For what it's worth, Klasky Csupo is the only Studio I know where an ugly looking designs are considered a unique art style! Even with gross out humor, they drew some incredible details like with gerbil poop to even colored vomit !😂At least it worked with duck man and gave me one of the best laughs I had in my entire life!😂
Rocket Power didn’t age well but I have a soft spot for it. It was a nice time capsule of the early 2000s in which stuff like Extreme sports and Tony Hawk Pro Skater was considered the coolest things to me as a kid.
I'll give Rocket Power some credit, I enjoyed the show a lot as a kid, as well as some of my friends and it actually motivated us to go outside and ride our bikes and skates and do some exercise
I was today years old when I realized that I have been saying "Klasky Csupo" wrong for decades... I had always pronounced it "class-key kuh-soup-oh" and had no idea the 'Cs' in Csupo was a 'Ch' sound. XD
They said it at the end of all their shows and they pronounced it pretty much exactly as it was spelled. The 'cs' was pronounced like an 'x'. Idk where the 'ch' pronunciation is coming from.
8:27 I absolutely admire the original mission of Nickelodeon, “creator driven, kid inspired.” Not a fan of how it ended up, or how icky some of the behind the scenes stuff might’ve been, though. All that aside though, As a creator myself, I’m absolutely going to try and take that original slogan to heart, especially with all the indie animated projects going on, but with some very important differences: no icky behavior at all, and also kids aren’t gonna be the only demographic! For instance, I personally am trying to focus on the teen to young adult demographic. (Although anyone can watch if they want, unless otherwise stated)
I remember when they did the Borneo special where they revealed Donnie's parents were butchered by poachers and no one said anything ever again about it.
To the editor: The variety of stock footage never ceases to amaze me. The fact that there's stock footage of a mother walking a stroller down the street while also live streaming or looking into her phone, it makes me wonder how people come up with this kind of stuff!
Even weirder when you think about how much people at the studio fought tooth and nail to make it happen, and the fact that this very same studio wrote a rule stating not to Outsimpson the Simpsons, when Rugrats did just that with Angelica. The more you look deep into it, the more Angelica is just Bart from Maggie's perspective.
My friend Adrian works on the Rugrats reboot and i asked him about their involvement- and from what he said they aren’t involved except they get certain rights to veto stories or characters and story folks come to them for consultations
About time for this one. A studio with a strange and at times ugly or messy looking animation style that ruled the 90s and early 2000s even with a show like Duckman 😎.
Something you missed in the topic of the art style, it made the rugrats cross overs that much more believable. When the monsters made a cameo in that one episode with the babies as monsters it wasn't like a jarring style change or out of place designs, and the same thing with rugrats go wild.
The story of Klasky-Csupo cutting ties with Gracie Films/FOX is so sad. Imagine if they were still working on the Simpsons today, they would be contributing to one of the longest running series out there, which probably help get them more work.
Quite a few artists went with the show to Film Roman & then to Fox. There’s a few who have a good chance of having their entire career on The Simpsons!
Their last episode they did for the Simpsons was "A streetcar named Marge". Which was a brilliant episode, and had that dark undertone if you were in on the joke. Like Blanche's final musical number.
I’m just a simple Aaahh!!! Real Monsters fan trying to live her best life. It’s a small fandom, but we’re vibing. Ickis, Oblina & Krumm are lifelong comfort characters of mine.
The funny thing about Angelica being the way she was. It definitely helped me understand similar bully like behavior by female characters in anime. Oddly enough those characters tended to be blonde princess types.
I'm going to blame you for the fact that I'm never going to be able to hear the phrase "ojou-sama" again without imagining Angelica Pickles. You've made an enemy for life.
It feels sad to say, but I think part of the struggle is that their character designs for humans are very distinctive, so breaking into the adult animation scene feels like watching your childhood characters get into dirty situations. It seems like they could break their tone more successfully with non-human characters like Duckman or the Ah! Real Monsters cast. That final adult animated movie just looked... wrong. Like watching background characters on As Told By Ginger pole dancing. Something about their style being so THEM and so unlike anything that's aired in terms of visuals makes it read as children's cartoons, and the cognitive dissonance is off putting. To reverse it, it'd be like using the Family Guy/ American Dad/ Cleveland Show aesthetic and developing a PBS cartoon with it. The art style is culturally ingrained to one genre of content, and it feels wrong to see it in anything else. In that way, specializing so heavily in Nickelodeon and not varying their art style is what tied their own hands and set up their own downfall.
Sorta reminds me of Ren and Stimpy and how they got that adult show on Spiketv years after being cancelled off Nickelodeon. Except that was more in your face with it since its the same exact looking kids show just with adult comedy. and the creator of the show is a creep.
Please tell me someone else remembers the fact that TV shows in the old days could just name drop products? I remember watching an episode of Rugrats only to hear someone ask someone out to "share a coke and some milk duds". That kinda made me laugh a bit tbh
As Told By Ginger remains one of my favorite pieces of media of all time 🥰 it’s one of the very few shows I can go through and rewatch as a 31yo and be just as entertained as I was when I was 10.
My high school physics teacher was the sister of the woman who voiced Angelica. Her name was Ms Hudock. No one had any clue . This woman was very quite and a really goofy when she made fun of something. Her sister came in one day around Christmas break and we didnt know it was her until she did the voice and made everyone laugh. She even cursed at us. Not gonna lie i wish i would have it recorded. She did it just to have a little fun with us. I wont say which ones she said but it was good. I was surprised at the difference in their personalities but they played off of eachother very well and even set eachother up to make us laugh. It was a cool little treat ill never forget.
I imagine the rise of digital animation couldn't have helped. Like you mentioned, the art styles of shows from Cartoon Network translated really well, but the more loose styles are a lot more difficult. The popular art styles of various eras are heavily influenced by the limitations of the methods they were produced in afterall.
Believe it or not my first exposure to Klasky-Csupo was not Rugrats, or even the Simpsons. When I was around 4 my mother recorded an animated special about Lily Tomlin’s character of Edith Ann, and it’s style just implanted itself into my brain as something truly unique.
Nickelodeon back in the day: *YES ABOSUTELY* 😄 Nickelodeon today: 😐…….what am I looking at ? Nick Jr today: *TOO MUCH PAW PATROL BACK TO BACK please stop we had enough of them costumed canadian canines* T_T
Nickelodeon today: Wait a minute don't tell me there is an television movie about a teenage girl who came from a maternal line of witches and she decided to save her coastal lousiana town from the cursed villagers that accused her ancestor of witchcraft in 18th century Mexico!?
@@Espartanica Bro, did you thumbs up your own comment? Ain't anyone coming to this video and seeking out your comment in the last four hours and thinking "THIS!" Also it's not about "muh AI bad", it's about "man, this sounds annoying as shit."
@@AStrangerOnTheInternet No, your comment was literally accusing them of using AI. Also, imagine being this upset at someone liking their own comments. Yeah, I did it, because it drives people like you crazy.
gosh Klasky Csupo was almost the only studio I watched as a kid I swear; Rugrats, The Wild Thornberrys, Rocket Power, and As Told By Ginger especially had SO MUCH affect on who I became as an adult, I learned a lot from those shows.
It was one of the few shows Nickelodeon aired that was willing to tackle real life issues with teens. It’s rare to see in animation because the medium is mostly used as a way to tell stories outside the bounds of reality. It was also the first of their works to tackle the insecurities and issues pre-teen/teen girls encounter (peer-pressure, stuffing, first love, heartbreak, absentee parents, etc.) While it’s considered one of their “quieter” works, I thought they were able to tell an impactful story without sugar-coating subjects for their audience.
2000s was more iconic. Jimmy Neutron, Fairly Odd Parents, Teenage Robot, Avatar. Maybe the 90s was more iconic for Nickelodeon because it had Rugrats and Rocko also. but Cartoon Network dominated the 2000s
you know what id be so game to watch? a continuation of as told by ginger. imagine a show from her child's perspective growing up in a new era, with sprinkles of gingers life as a mom, wife, and author. have funny carl related ventures with uncle carl and the like! man id love to see more of it
I know Arlene and her 2 sons and they are an excellent, humble crew. I’ll never forget when she and her son, Jared (RIP) took time out of their busy lifestyles to come to my lil movie screenings to show support. Plus they would throw the most epic New Year’s parties. Miss you Jared!
I'm not sure if this is a hot take, but I think maybe both Simpsons and Klasky - Csupo came out better after they separated. KS was able to thrive on their own creation for over a decade, and the art style of The Simpsons was able to get a more polished look
For Rugrats, i still remembr how "real" the Reptar wagon looked in that cinema. Revisting those old school shows as an adult, its kinda funny relating more to the adults XD
This was a big part of my childhood.When it comes to Claspy's studios As Told By Ginger, Rocket Power and Wild Thornberry's were my faves. It is sad bc Nick is just a hollow shell. It is at this point just Spongebob which is the TTG of Nick. I'd love to see more bygone or current era stuff like history of Toonami,Adult Swim,Saturday Cartoons or Powerhouse Era of CN including Cartoon Cartoon Fridays.
As an editor of the logo wiki AVID, I am forever haunted by the variant of the logo where Splaat smiles (and by extension The Wild Thornberrys Movie) debuting the EXACT DAY I WAS BORN. I was cursed into this interest by the weird logo edits, it seems (for reference, most of us don't watch that shit unironically and we are so not into RoboSplaat the series despite us being the target audience that it is occasionally my duty to check if they are even still making episodes).
Idk why but for some reason I find that version of the logo less creepy than the original Cause it gets rid of the jiggly eyes and weird teeth so it looks less uncanny by comparison.
@@EpixAndroid it terrified me as a kid, but now I find Splaat not scary at all. There are significantly scarier things out there (even with logos). I mean, without going into detail, one of the scariest things I have seen in my life is a channel bumper. That thing makes Splaat Sesame Street by comparison. I'd go in detail but I'd rather spare the people subscribed to this channel that don't know about it (it's a certain international MTV bumper...)
@@sophiebitzinger4445 I’m curious what is the mtv bumper Cause once again I used to be scared of splaat I’m curious on what could be scarier than that.
@@goldylover1000 TW: ACTUAL ANIMAL DEATH I AM NOT KIDDING ...still here? Ok. There is an MTV India bumper called Food For Thought that consists entirely of seemingly actual footage of a sheep slowly and painfully bleeding to death as it flails about. It's not very fun to watch.
I always blamed the "dumbing down" of Rugrats to be executives, but just as head canon. I'd never thought to look into it, but learning of Germaine and his influence yet early departure from the show leads me to believe that when I look up the time he left that it will probably coincide with when I started to dislike the show. There was a time that it didn’t feel as mature as it had once been, and now I'm inclined to believe it was Germaine and co's departure.
Totally agree! Those first 65 episodes Germaine wrote is what made me a fan. Absolute bangers. I still liked it after but noticed something was different
"All Grown Up would go on to really dissappoint fans" Really? Growing up myself in that time, I heard the opposite online. That fans (myself included) really loved it, and that they heavily hated Nickelodeon for never giving it the sixth season it deserved, as the show never recieved a conclusive ending.
It's called "All Growed Up" because that's how the babies say "grown" because they keep thinking the babies mispronouncing words was funny, so they started to overdo it.
Honestly, I think it kind of served Rugrats well that there were different views on what to do with the show, Angelica, etc. It helped make for a more eclectic show than if they had been entirely on the same page.
Well done, saber, you have inspired nostalgiapression Its not quite the longing for a past that may be misremembered but a profound sadness that such things no longer exist
As Told By Ginger was a Nickelodeon teenager show. All Grown Up! was a Disney teenager show. One is about teenagers for that age group, the other is for little kids looking up to teenagers
Its always sad to see how Klasky-Csupo gave us so much and they haven't done much for years. As told by ginger was peak for them, a show ahead of it's time. I wish they'd come back with something new or even show as told by ginger during college and possibly more adult oriented given the modern age.
Yeah, watch duckman it’s both klasky csupos best work and It’s the only show that a Seinfeld cast member worked on that’s just almost if not as good as Seinfeld.
I remember watching Rugrats on Nickelodeon in the early 2010s before they completely removed it off the network. hell i remember watching it in the early 2000s and the movies in theaters
I think the aesthetic complaints about their style were akin to the complaints people have of that 'adventure time' style or what some people were calling 'CalArts' style more recently. Once something gets popular and people see a lot of that style, it gets a little oversaturated. It's this 90s iconic style because there was so much of it, and I'm sure some people felt there wasn't a lot of variety. It's not a big deal to have one kinda grungy style cartoon, but then to have everybody jump on that trend might make you a little grumpy if you aren't a fan of that look.
I forgot they worked on the In Living Color intro. Man that was such a good show. I used to watch it all the time. I had the whole box set. Don’t worry I’m old too
24:26 I literally thought I was the only person who remembered those movies. My little brother literally tortured me by making them his favorite movies for 6 years.
I remember a time were Nickelodeon had few original shows, and most of there cartoons were foreign. Belle and Sébastien, The Little Prince, Danger Mouse, Count Duckula, The World of David The Gnome, etc.
Ironically, their old studio is still standing in Hollywood. Not sure if it's still active or not(I'm guessing not but I'll have to investigate more at some point 🤔). But The artwork of some of their shows from the 90s including Aww Real Monsters as well as other characters are painted on the outside and looks like it was originally done 30 yrs ago. It's like a time capsule looking at it from the outside.
As the matter of fact, they did produced the adult animated classic series called Duckman. It was a very great series to rewatching it again. I feel so sorry for those two whom creating their studio before their downfall. Yikes.
I loved Rugrats as a kid. Seeing the studio behind it from its rise to fame and then fading to obscurity really shows how much Klasky Csupo will never be forgotten for the amazing shows it created that still stick with the kids who grew up with it that are now adults.
Their distinct artistic style worked best with Ahh Real Monsters, since it was more of a grungy show. You followed literal monsters, and even the humans in the show were "ugly" which made sense because the monsters in the show saw the humans as being ugly and disgusting.
Saber Spark: I've watched In Living Color on Comedy Central! Im old! Me & Gen-Xers: Ba-zitch Please! We were watching In Living Color when it 1st aired on Fox! Even saw Babs Bunny parodying Homie The Clown!😂❤
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9:47 Hey ! You forgot Susie
UPDATE: So I drove by there on 04/03/2024, and I saw activity in the parking lot. Maybe it isn't as abandoned as I thought. Or could be potential buyers/renters looking to check it out?
I work in the film industry, and almost everyday I pass by what remains of Klaspy Csupo’s old studio on Highland Blvd in Hollywood (it’s a small grey two-story building). The logo is still on the front of the building, and the side walls are adorned with paintings of their characters (including the Rugrats), and yet its abandoned. The parking lot is starting to get overgrown, the paint is peeling. It’s an eerie sight to what was once the dominate studio that worked for Nickelodeon.
I’m surprised they still have their logo. The CN Studios building doesn’t even have a logo anymore and it only shut down last year.
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that is a haunting description.
a dead over grown corpse of a giant...
Angelica being mean was true to life though, as kids can be exceptionally cruel to others with and without realizing it. Especially when viewed from the eyes of a child because even the littlest things can be world crushing to a child, and experiencing these things helps them grow emotionally. So the fact they argued about that shows how little they truly know about kids despite being parents
I think its less that they knew little about kids or they didn't like portraying characters as mean. Even though the show needs a villain so there to be conflict and her manipulating the babies causes them to go on adventures.
@@icecreamhero2375their Principal Pangborn knew everything.
From what I recall, Germaine wanted Angelica to be not only nasty, but more rounded than your average bully character and was interested in exploring how her spoiled rotten background made her the way she is and Csupo was largely on his side, while Klasky just saw her as an unrepentant villain and didn't understand why Csupo and Germaine would even want her on the show to begin with. Though I could be remembering wrong.
@@jessdavis2677 Thats pretty much it but Arleen came around on Angelica after the movie came out and fell in love with her.
Piggybacking on this to say Angelica was pretty relatable to me as a kid. I didn't get much attention from my parents, especially my mother, while growing up, and also underwent horrific abuse at the hands of many people at a daycare when I was only a toddler.
I even appreciated the depictions of Drew and Charlotte. They were definitely well-intentioned. You can really see this in particular in the Rugrats Go Wild movie, especially for Charlotte.
But yeah, this is to say I can get why she was the way she was. For a time outside of daycare, I was a tyrant and massive bully. It was easy to do that when it seemed literally everyone wanted my blood. I had to learn the hard way that that wasn't true by the person who was able to put up with me and treated me well, and I'm thankful for that. That didn't take long.
It's been a long time since I've watched All Grown Up, but doesn't Angelica turn out okay by that point? My memory says she's does, but idk if that's actually the case.
Some say that the Klasky Csupo logo looks terrifyingly weird, but the studio really went hard with the smooth animation and the "ugly" art style that pretty much embraced the 90s unapologetic weirdness that Nickelodeon used to be known for.
But it’s was charming
@@Dogman2605 Exactly.
I used to be scared of that logo
Till I watched it again years later down the line and looking back it’s not that scary it’s kinda creepy and weird but Its a cool logo that symbolizes what they are
That’s, what splaat is
It’s a symbol that they’re not ashamed of making ugly irreverent cool cartoons on the fly.
Like duckman and aaahh real monsters.
some underrated gems like immigrants. (Which is arguably the best cartoon that spike tv picked up but sadly bailed out on the last minute making immigrants end up just being a compilation movie.) and cool music videos like shadrach by the beastie boys
Which again made sense why they chose klasky csupo to do their music video their story is similar to klasky csupo’s in making creative trippy messy stuff with the stuff they had lying around.
I wish they continue doing weird irreverent crazy cartoons instead of just milking rugrats.
@@goldylover1000were you talking about Splaat?
@@Dogman2605yeah, I thought the comment was about the klasky csupo logo the one that has splaat on it, and how people thought it was creepy and I wanted to give my take on what that logo represents and why it’s weird.
Not just the writing, but the VA. The way Stew delivered "because I've lost control of my life." Had me literally loling (I'm 34 and grew up with it)
Stu is around your current age when he speaks that line, yet sounds like he's about 106
Dude that was the punchline. He could've cut the clip there. I laughed so loud haha I'm 35 now and watched growing up too.
I think the thing that really killed All Grown Up! is how old the kids were supposed to be. It felt like they were trying to tell a story about high schoolers, but the kids were all around 10 with stories that mostly felt like we were dealing with 10 year olds.
"Because i lost control of my life"
As a adult this hits hard than ever
Same
Even as a kid this scene was one of the scariest for me.
It’s crazy how they went from being the dominant studio in Nick to only a nostalgic logo seen by millennials
Don't forget gen z
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Why
Yeah. That logo is surely terrifying enough, but that pretty much says a lot about Klasky Csupo's legacy -- embracing the weirdness.
Predictably depressing. It's the American way, after all.
Dude seriously! As Told By Ginger is seriously one of my favorite animated shows of all time. It has continuity, serious issues kids have dealt with, and amazing characters that leave their own flavor to the show. I’m still devastated they were canceled after only 3 seasons. This studio was gods gift to our generation and I’m not even religious! 😭
Told by Ginger was my favorite
I thought it was unwatchable. The side plots with the little brother are so tonally different. The mom thinking a snake was growing in her stomach was the dumbest thing I've seen a TV parent do.
@@MaliceInCandyland In Rugrats the parents are constantly losing track of their infants and in the Wild Thornberries a girl gets a spell cast on her that lets her talk to animals, but you couldn’t handle the weird brother in As Told By Ginger? It’s a cartoon. Do you also hate that the school bus is magic in The Magic School Bus?
I always thought it was underrated. It touched on TONS of subjects no other cartoon of the time would like bringing up Sex-Ed class, talking about absentee parents, and talking about depression and suicide. The show was also described as a "Feminist Masterpiece" but was still liked by boys because it was still a great show with relatable characters and didnt go the usual feminist route of either being so girly that most guys cant relate or going the dark route of just hating on anything remotely masculine. Honestly as far as "girl shows liked by guys" I think it's almost on the same level, if smaller scale, to My Little Pony in that it's a girl orientated show still loved by dudes. I have a wang and watched every episode growing up and my guy friends loved it too.
@@artistfloor9suspension of disbelief doesn't quite work like that. magic in storytelling is somewhat of a wildcard that lets storytellers get away with certain things that wouldn't normally happen. it's a way of explaining away a certain amount of impossibility that most of us will humor in exchange for a good story. someone's perfectly ordinary mother whose role is normally to be the voice of reason believing something impossible that a reasonable mother should not believe with no explanation offered (mental illness, temporary insanity, magic, some sort of special snake that can survive digestion) is bad writing.
I worked at KC from '96 to '03 as a colorist then color supervisor on Duckman, Rugrats, Wild Thornberrys, Rocket Power, As Told by Ginger, The Wacky Adventures of Ronald McDonald, Stressed Eric and then a background painter for the Chuckie cloud sequence in Rugrats in Paris, and finally colorist for The Wild Thornberrys movie and Rugrats Go Wild... it was an amazing time!
I thought you were going to say something intersting instead of just bragging. What about how it was or what you learn or something? I guess it is true but the fact you felt like doing a list of everything you did and thats it haha
Nope! Just bragging!
i dont understand why someone is mad that u were bragging tbh i would be bragging about that too.
Don’t listen to this loser… BRAG AWAY! That cloud Chuckie sequence with that song 🎶I want a mommmmm that’ll last foreverrrrr 🎶… top 1 dude. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Duckman!!! I’d give ANYTHING to have Duckman back!!!!! I used to own all the DVDs and would give anything to have them released on digital and to have that show come back
Saberspark, thank you for touching on the work of Everett Peck in this video :)
He was one of my professors during my senior year at CSU Long Beach in 2020 and I remember that he always gave me and my fellow classmates nothing but positivity and encouragement on our projects, especially during the covid quarantine.
He sadly passed away in 2022 and I never knew how influential he was in the animation industry until he passed away. So thank you a million times for sharing his story :)
Woah! How did he pass?
@@SilveniumTheDrifter he passed away due to complications with pancreatic cancer 😔
Between Rugrats and All grown up I didn't realize that it lasted nearly 18 years. That's impressive for a cartoon. I genuinely thought All grown up was a one season show.
It still didn't end with All Grown Up, as there were some direct-to-video Rugrats specials and the short-lived spinoff series Preschool Daze that came after.
I just wanted you to know my cat stepped on my phone and liked your comment.
Nope. All Grown Up was a five-season show. Pre-School Daze only lived for four episodes that was glued into one television special. While it technically did air after All Grown Up in 2008 in the US, it originally aired in the UK _during_ the original run of All Grown Up in 2005. I guess Nickelodeon in the US was just not ready for us to see it yet. I am a UA-cam channel based in the United States.
@@LordArikadoRugrats in Paris was HUGE when it came out, at least in my world anyways
"All Grown Up" may have been a weak show overall, but it did have one brilliant line that has stuck in my head for almost 20 years: "D'ya ever wonder what Dil would be like if we hadn't dropped him on his head?"
The show wasn't bad, per say, but you know a series won't last long when the best line of the series is in the first episode.
@@ShaDHP23 that was in the first episode? (seriously asking because I haven't watched since it was actually on the air)
@@amandasmith593 yes
@@amandasmith593 its from the first episode lol
I think the problem with All Grown Up was that the demographic it was meant for were already adults at that point.
Duckman is an absolute classic. His rants about society are timeless
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@@p-__ ok? Is that supposed to be a good thing?
"Comedy should provoke. It should blast through prejudices, challenge preconceptions. Comedy should always leave you different than when it found you. Sure humor can hurt - even alienate - but the risk is better than the alternative; a steady diet of innocuous, childproof, flavorless mush. Demand to be challenged, to be offended, to be treated like thinking, reasoning adults! And raise your children to be the same! Don't let a comedian, a network, a congressional committee, or an evil genius take away your freedom to laugh at whatever you want!"
@@weidie2moro might be a bot report it.
@@collaterale1 I love that quote. Especially since that quote predated the existence of shows like South Park so it really showed how tame comedy was back then. His rant about mental health in “A Room with a Bellevue” is also brilliant.
I am surprised you didn't say: "Smashing!" when talking about Nigel Thornberry. The way he says "Smashing" is what made him a meme.
Nah the way he says smashing is what made him the worst character in the wild thornberrys Eliza thorn berry is the best character
FUN FACT: The term 'Shoobies' originated in South Jersey and on East Coast beaches. It made its way to SoCal because of surfers traveling there to ride the waves. It's not a dated term [in those circles] and is a synonym with 'Bennys'.
i'm late but i was about to say that. i'm from south jersey and had to do a double take when i heard the word in the video lol, it's still used all the time here... and yes, it might as well be a slur. damn shoobies.
Fun fact no one cares shut up
I'm definitely of the opinion that Rugrats took a nosedive in quality after Paul Germain and his writers left. I feel silly saying this about a kids cartoon about talking babies, but that initial run of episodes had an edge to them that the later seasons and movies lack. The jokes and scenarios were darker, the kids were allowed to be meaner, and the adults would make jokes and references that flew right over the heads of the children watching. I can watch a lot of those earlier episodes now in my thirties, and they still hold up. I actually appreciate some of the humor more now than I did growing up. Later seasons were just too sickeningly sweet for my tastes.
Agree, I think people confuse the fact that the post hiatus season but pre Dil was good. That season which premiered in 97 was already pretty bad and felt absolutely nothing like the OG run aside from aesthetics.
But the first three seasons are on par with early SpongeBob and Rocko as being the best things Nickelodeon ever did.
@@desecrator09 I remember being excited at the time when they started premiering new episodes, but even as a kid I could immediately tell something was off. The animation is obviously different, but also the characters just didn't feel right to me anymore. It felt dumbed down.
“Lonely Space-Vixens”, to name a few.
@@lanceturley7745exactly. Childhood me never liked Dil or any of the movies. And I felt like I outgrew the series before Kimmy was introduced. Those earlier seasons definitely felt like a higher quality. Which is odd with shows like Wild Thornberries and Rocket Power coming after and dealing with more mature subject matter.
I recall hearing how some of the writers in early seasons got into arguments about Angelica in early seasons, but they felt she was too mean. I guess that explains why she is pretty dumb down in later seasons.
The Wild Thornberry's is a very underrated Nickelodeon series in my opinion.
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It's even funnier when you realize that without The Wild Thornberrys, they wouldn't have set up a cinematic universe 10 years before Iron Man was even released! They started it with The Rugrats Movie! And also like Iron Man, Rugrats had a sequel and introduced another standalone movie from another franchise, The Wild Thornberrys. And then both shows crossed over with Rugrats Go Wild! And the universe goes even further because there's a comic where the Rockets babysit the babies! Oh, and I guess one of them dreamed up the "AAAH!" Real Monsters in one episode.
Some time ago I watched some episodes again.
It brought back a lot of nostalgia. The show has a lot of the charm I remember, but Eliza...
She is a horrible and incompetent main character for what feels like 90% of the time she's on screen. There are times her childish naivety is passable, but there were so many times I wished she would get her head kicked in by how annoyingly stupid she was.
Her family were the best part of the show.
Overrated*
@@dianslabbert504I remember when she was in the Andes Mountains with Nigel, and she treated him horribly because she thought his technique on overcoming high altitude asphyxia was stupid.
He ended up saving her life.
Angelica almost always got in trouble at the end of the episode... and some kids are just awful! Especially spoiled ones like Angelica. That's part of what made her the most interesting character to kid!me. I have quite a bit of respect for Ms. Klasky, but we're just going to have to part company on that one.
This. There’s no reason for people to get upset with her characterization because she always got her comeuppance.
I have no shame in saying that Angelica was one of my favorite characters in the series.
I even had the doll of her as a child and treated it like Angelica was with Cynthia. 😅
I understand her me too i hate Angelica but i'm in Paul side because that will be interesting for how the babies will do face with a baby spoiled brat
I had an incredibly mean older sister growing up, and Angelica made me feel valid. Adults always told me she was "just playing", but seeing adults acknowledge and punish her behavior made me feel less whiny or crazy. Kids need a safe avenue to see conflict so they can understand it
she probably on some level saw her as a self-insert character. Just a thought.
I get the Angelica debate especially when you are dealing with impressionable children, but she wasn't really that bad. She was just spoiled and self-centered, yes she bullied babies, but it was just mainly her just calling them dumb and lying to them about he world and then experiencing it for themselves. And like someone said in the comment selection she was almost always punished in some way and she even had Susie as her enemy to humble her.
It’s insane to me that Angelica was such a controversial character amongst adults when most of the kids I knew (including myself) would never have even watched Rugrats in the first place if she wasn’t in it. She was by far the most interesting character and an actually formidable villain for only being a toddler. Now she’s a pop culture icon. Just goes to show that adults often have no idea what kids actually want to see.
i mean she got married by her cousin friend since in 2000 i think
there got daughter and son i guess
I would just like to point out that Sundae (The dog in the McDonalds cartoon) was not an animatronic but was a suit worn by Verne Troyer. The guy who played Mini-Me from Austin Powers.
RIP, Verne was a real one
Holy crap, I never would have guessed!
Wow Verne was a legend. The suit was to be very heavy though since if you have seen the costumed characters at places like disney and Orlando studios you know those suits weigh a couple of pounds so had robotics to that and well you need a lot of fluids just to stay alive!
True
Somehow that's even more frightening
Honestly I will have to say that As Told By Ginger is one of the most underrated Nikctoons of all time, right down to the massive character development and subverting a lot of cartoon stereotypes like not aging or wearing the same outfit everyday and by them having characters who actually age and wear different outfits this show is simply iconic!
RIGHTTTTTTT, THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING!!!!!
I remember The Weekenders also went the extra mile always designed their characters with different cloths every episode multiple times
I believe that show was their peak and I loved it. It's a shame what Nick did to it, though.
Couldn't stand when that show would come on. Should have been about her brother Carl, he was cool.
My only complaint was that some of the characters were absolutely irritating and a few really important episodes had no follow up (e.g. that episode where gingers friends tried to separate her from her boyfriend) and things went on like nothing happened. Everything else was amazing about it though.
What I liked about the studio was that, regardless of genre, there were always good adults (except for Aaaah, Real Monsters, but that's to be expected because the only adult is, well, a literal monster).
Rugrats' parents were all flawed, but they still tried their best.
Lois Foutley was stern, but fair.
Ray Rocket allowed his kids a lot of freedom, but still had reasonable boundaries.
And Nigel Thornberry was an icon.
ARM had some other adults, but they weren't consistently present characters. And they turned out to usually not be so bad.
Not to mention they also have a better LGBT fanbase with characters like The Gromble and Courtney Gripling than Disney ever would!
Marianne Thornberry was very much a wise woman who kept her household in shape given how she had to shoot her husband's TV show, cook the meals, clean the convee, tutor Eliza and Debbie, and satisfy those particular needs of Nigel.
Just wanted to say Everett Peck was an amazing guy! He was my Character Design professor back in college and his class is what solidified my decision of wanting to be in character/visual development. He was one of the nicest people I ever knew while also being an amazing professor and we kept in touch years after I graduated. His passing was really devastating so I'm so happy people appreciate his work
I never forget Everrett Peck
I know we live in an era of reboot and reboot, but I wouldn't be mad if Klasky-Csupo did an adult-cartoon sequel series of As Told By Ginger.
I feel like a series following those characters through college could be amazing
No you can’t have Gingers in entertainment now, totally unacceptable.
@@beavismcdeavis142go watch the quartering or whatever it is you people do
@@BahhBahhBrownSheep I think he's joking by being sarcastic about sensitivity in modern society lmfao
Yesss as someone disappointed by the change in season three, but respects how they tried to evolve with their audience, I’d actually love the a reboot of it. The first two seasons were ahead of their time and so good 💗
As Told By Ginger does not get enough credit. It is a fantastic show especially since I was a preteen girl when it was airing.
It had some seriously in depth lessons
loved this show along with Hey Arnold. Too bad it got a short run in our location and never seen the other seasons.
I loved As Told by Ginger
Didn't like it. I only remember one good episode where Ginger does a dark poem, and everyone misread it as a red flag.
For what it's worth, Klasky Csupo is the only Studio I know where an ugly looking designs are considered a unique art style! Even with gross out humor, they drew some incredible details like with gerbil poop to even colored vomit !😂At least it worked with duck man and gave me one of the best laughs I had in my entire life!😂
Yeah I know
It was unique during a time when other studios were allowed to be unique.
Rocket Power didn’t age well but I have a soft spot for it. It was a nice time capsule of the early 2000s in which stuff like Extreme sports and Tony Hawk Pro Skater was considered the coolest things to me as a kid.
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That show was the shit and I will take no slander! (I kid)
a lot of kids nowadays could use some more sport and less tiktok
I'll give Rocket Power some credit, I enjoyed the show a lot as a kid, as well as some of my friends and it actually motivated us to go outside and ride our bikes and skates and do some exercise
That's how I feel with most my old shows wether they aged well or not I still find something bout them an episode or scene lol
I was today years old when I realized that I have been saying "Klasky Csupo" wrong for decades... I had always pronounced it "class-key kuh-soup-oh" and had no idea the 'Cs' in Csupo was a 'Ch' sound. XD
They said it at the end of all their shows and they pronounced it pretty much exactly as it was spelled. The 'cs' was pronounced like an 'x'. Idk where the 'ch' pronunciation is coming from.
@@badscientist42069 You might wanna have your ears checked? Csupo is definitely a "ch" sound and not an "x" sound in the clip.
@@badscientist42069 it's a hungarian surname, cs is always pronounced like "ch" in hungarian
Heh. What a moron..
Yea me too.
8:27 I absolutely admire the original mission of Nickelodeon, “creator driven, kid inspired.” Not a fan of how it ended up, or how icky some of the behind the scenes stuff might’ve been, though.
All that aside though, As a creator myself, I’m absolutely going to try and take that original slogan to heart, especially with all the indie animated projects going on, but with some very important differences: no icky behavior at all, and also kids aren’t gonna be the only demographic! For instance, I personally am trying to focus on the teen to young adult demographic. (Although anyone can watch if they want, unless otherwise stated)
I think "The Wild Thornberrys" is one of Nickelodeon's most underrated cartoons.
Nigel Thornberry made that show.
I remember when they did the Borneo special where they revealed Donnie's parents were butchered by poachers and no one said anything ever again about it.
@@Illier1I remember that too! I loved watching the wild thornberries when I was younger.
@@CidZeroand it used to be followed by Cousin Skeeter.
Yea I loved the wild thornberries
To the editor: The variety of stock footage never ceases to amaze me. The fact that there's stock footage of a mother walking a stroller down the street while also live streaming or looking into her phone, it makes me wonder how people come up with this kind of stuff!
It feels so wild that part of my childhood was filled with things from this studio.
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Even weirder when you think about how much people at the studio fought tooth and nail to make it happen, and the fact that this very same studio wrote a rule stating not to Outsimpson the Simpsons, when Rugrats did just that with Angelica. The more you look deep into it, the more Angelica is just Bart from Maggie's perspective.
My friend Adrian works on the Rugrats reboot and i asked him about their involvement- and from what he said they aren’t involved except they get certain rights to veto stories or characters and story folks come to them for consultations
30 odd years later and Stu making that chocolate pudding went from tears of laughter to tears of understanding
About time for this one. A studio with a strange and at times ugly or messy looking animation style that ruled the 90s and early 2000s even with a show like Duckman 😎.
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Something you missed in the topic of the art style, it made the rugrats cross overs that much more believable. When the monsters made a cameo in that one episode with the babies as monsters it wasn't like a jarring style change or out of place designs, and the same thing with rugrats go wild.
The story of Klasky-Csupo cutting ties with Gracie Films/FOX is so sad. Imagine if they were still working on the Simpsons today, they would be contributing to one of the longest running series out there, which probably help get them more work.
Okay so When the persons who worked for Gracie Films and asked for Gabor how he run his business he didn't take very well right ?
I kind of wish they did. The new animation feels so stiff and lifeless
Quite a few artists went with the show to Film Roman & then to Fox. There’s a few who have a good chance of having their entire career on The Simpsons!
Their last episode they did for the Simpsons was "A streetcar named Marge".
Which was a brilliant episode, and had that dark undertone if you were in on the joke. Like Blanche's final musical number.
@@USMC49er Oh that’s a great one! Actually one of the first Simpsons episodes I watched.
You committed a big sin of not name dropping the god emperor himself, the embodiment of polynesia/Hawaiia himself. Surfshack tito.
Donnie Thornberry being voiced by Flea of the Red Hot Chili Peppers is my favorite casting choice of all cartoons
I always wondered who voiced him lol
I always wondered who voiced him lol
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Love Aaahh!!! Real Monsters!
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The funny thing about Angelica being the way she was. It definitely helped me understand similar bully like behavior by female characters in anime. Oddly enough those characters tended to be blonde princess types.
I'm going to blame you for the fact that I'm never going to be able to hear the phrase "ojou-sama" again without imagining Angelica Pickles. You've made an enemy for life.
I noticed it too 😂 so i guess Rugrats was the first animated show to have that type character before others copied/inspired by it?
It feels sad to say, but I think part of the struggle is that their character designs for humans are very distinctive, so breaking into the adult animation scene feels like watching your childhood characters get into dirty situations. It seems like they could break their tone more successfully with non-human characters like Duckman or the Ah! Real Monsters cast. That final adult animated movie just looked... wrong. Like watching background characters on As Told By Ginger pole dancing. Something about their style being so THEM and so unlike anything that's aired in terms of visuals makes it read as children's cartoons, and the cognitive dissonance is off putting. To reverse it, it'd be like using the Family Guy/ American Dad/ Cleveland Show aesthetic and developing a PBS cartoon with it. The art style is culturally ingrained to one genre of content, and it feels wrong to see it in anything else. In that way, specializing so heavily in Nickelodeon and not varying their art style is what tied their own hands and set up their own downfall.
Sorta reminds me of Ren and Stimpy and how they got that adult show on Spiketv years after being cancelled off Nickelodeon. Except that was more in your face with it since its the same exact looking kids show just with adult comedy. and the creator of the show is a creep.
Also rockos real world...
@@H.K.88 Nah. Rocko's Modern Life is hilarious
stu making chocolate pudding and that line delivery will forever be one of the funniest, most iconic scenes of Rugrats
No, UA-camr, the $20 cereal with the corporate artstyle isn't going to make me feel like a kid again
Please tell me someone else remembers the fact that TV shows in the old days could just name drop products? I remember watching an episode of Rugrats only to hear someone ask someone out to "share a coke and some milk duds". That kinda made me laugh a bit tbh
As Told By Ginger remains one of my favorite pieces of media of all time 🥰 it’s one of the very few shows I can go through and rewatch as a 31yo and be just as entertained as I was when I was 10.
Yeah I agree
It was super realistic in a way I didn't realize until I was older
My high school physics teacher was the sister of the woman who voiced Angelica. Her name was Ms Hudock. No one had any clue . This woman was very quite and a really goofy when she made fun of something. Her sister came in one day around Christmas break and we didnt know it was her until she did the voice and made everyone laugh. She even cursed at us. Not gonna lie i wish i would have it recorded. She did it just to have a little fun with us. I wont say which ones she said but it was good. I was surprised at the difference in their personalities but they played off of eachother very well and even set eachother up to make us laugh. It was a cool little treat ill never forget.
I never cared for this studios style or shows. But i respected their hustle and standing for their artistic integrity.
I imagine the rise of digital animation couldn't have helped. Like you mentioned, the art styles of shows from Cartoon Network translated really well, but the more loose styles are a lot more difficult. The popular art styles of various eras are heavily influenced by the limitations of the methods they were produced in afterall.
Believe it or not my first exposure to Klasky-Csupo was not Rugrats, or even the Simpsons. When I was around 4 my mother recorded an animated special about Lily Tomlin’s character of Edith Ann, and it’s style just implanted itself into my brain as something truly unique.
Nickelodeon back in the day: *YES ABOSUTELY* 😄
Nickelodeon today: 😐…….what am I looking at ?
Nick Jr today: *TOO MUCH PAW PATROL BACK TO BACK please stop we had enough of them costumed canadian canines* T_T
Nickelodeon today: Wait a minute don't tell me there is an television movie about a teenage girl who came from a maternal line of witches and she decided to save her coastal lousiana town from the cursed villagers that accused her ancestor of witchcraft in 18th century Mexico!?
This guy reads every fifth word like it's the last word in the video.
I'm convinced he had AI read his script for him in his voice. I'm wearing headphones and his voice has a flanger that sounds really tinny and robotic.
It’s so bad I’m 2minutes and I’m dipping on this
You guys are just sad. Imagine blaming anything and everything on "muh AI bad"@@AStrangerOnTheInternet
@@Espartanica Bro, did you thumbs up your own comment? Ain't anyone coming to this video and seeking out your comment in the last four hours and thinking "THIS!"
Also it's not about "muh AI bad", it's about "man, this sounds annoying as shit."
@@AStrangerOnTheInternet No, your comment was literally accusing them of using AI.
Also, imagine being this upset at someone liking their own comments.
Yeah, I did it, because it drives people like you crazy.
gosh Klasky Csupo was almost the only studio I watched as a kid I swear; Rugrats, The Wild Thornberrys, Rocket Power, and As Told By Ginger especially had SO MUCH affect on who I became as an adult, I learned a lot from those shows.
Glad to see some appreciation for As Told by Ginger. I see so many people that just write that one off.
It was one of the few shows Nickelodeon aired that was willing to tackle real life issues with teens. It’s rare to see in animation because the medium is mostly used as a way to tell stories outside the bounds of reality.
It was also the first of their works to tackle the insecurities and issues pre-teen/teen girls encounter (peer-pressure, stuffing, first love, heartbreak, absentee parents, etc.)
While it’s considered one of their “quieter” works, I thought they were able to tell an impactful story without sugar-coating subjects for their audience.
I miss the 90's.
Those cartoons from that era from Cartoon Network and Nickelodeon stand out.
2000s was more iconic. Jimmy Neutron, Fairly Odd Parents, Teenage Robot, Avatar. Maybe the 90s was more iconic for Nickelodeon because it had Rugrats and Rocko also. but Cartoon Network dominated the 2000s
I miss the 2000s
@@mart5610Lol no. 90s is far more iconic for Cartoon Network. Johnny Bravo, Cow and Chicken, All of Toonami.
you know what id be so game to watch? a continuation of as told by ginger. imagine a show from her child's perspective growing up in a new era, with sprinkles of gingers life as a mom, wife, and author. have funny carl related ventures with uncle carl and the like! man id love to see more of it
I know Arlene and her 2 sons and they are an excellent, humble crew. I’ll never forget when she and her son, Jared (RIP) took time out of their busy lifestyles to come to my lil movie screenings to show support. Plus they would throw the most epic New Year’s parties. Miss you Jared!
I'm not sure if this is a hot take, but I think maybe both Simpsons and Klasky - Csupo came out better after they separated. KS was able to thrive on their own creation for over a decade, and the art style of The Simpsons was able to get a more polished look
Fun fact: Gabor Csupo was the visual inspiration for Dr Nick Riviera
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There was a time where people were calling him _James_ Carrey? 😵💫
Lol ikr, I had to rewind to make sure I read that correctly
He's credited as James Carrey in his early films
Someone didn't grow up in the age of In Living Color I see
@@Drums_of_Liberation I was born 5 years after it went off air. 😂
For Rugrats, i still remembr how "real" the Reptar wagon looked in that cinema. Revisting those old school shows as an adult, its kinda funny relating more to the adults XD
TryWatching "A better schedule for Nickelodeon's main block" by Evan Rosman.
This was a big part of my childhood.When it comes to Claspy's studios As Told By Ginger, Rocket Power and Wild Thornberry's were my faves. It is sad bc Nick is just a hollow shell. It is at this point just Spongebob which is the TTG of Nick. I'd love to see more bygone or current era stuff like history of Toonami,Adult Swim,Saturday Cartoons or Powerhouse Era of CN including Cartoon Cartoon Fridays.
As an editor of the logo wiki AVID, I am forever haunted by the variant of the logo where Splaat smiles (and by extension The Wild Thornberrys Movie) debuting the EXACT DAY I WAS BORN. I was cursed into this interest by the weird logo edits, it seems (for reference, most of us don't watch that shit unironically and we are so not into RoboSplaat the series despite us being the target audience that it is occasionally my duty to check if they are even still making episodes).
Idk why but for some reason I find that version of the logo less creepy than the original
Cause it gets rid of the jiggly eyes and weird teeth so it looks less uncanny by comparison.
Fellow AVID community member here! It sucks that you happened to share a “birthday” with a logo that gave you nightmares as a kid!
@@EpixAndroid it terrified me as a kid, but now I find Splaat not scary at all. There are significantly scarier things out there (even with logos).
I mean, without going into detail, one of the scariest things I have seen in my life is a channel bumper. That thing makes Splaat Sesame Street by comparison. I'd go in detail but I'd rather spare the people subscribed to this channel that don't know about it (it's a certain international MTV bumper...)
@@sophiebitzinger4445 I’m curious what is the mtv bumper
Cause once again I used to be scared of splaat I’m curious on what could be scarier than that.
@@goldylover1000 TW: ACTUAL ANIMAL DEATH
I AM NOT KIDDING
...still here?
Ok.
There is an MTV India bumper called Food For Thought that consists entirely of seemingly actual footage of a sheep slowly and painfully bleeding to death as it flails about.
It's not very fun to watch.
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Correction, Bejeweled knock-off.
I still don't get it why everyone mention Candy Crush since it was just a Bejeweled rip-off to begin with.
I always blamed the "dumbing down" of Rugrats to be executives, but just as head canon. I'd never thought to look into it, but learning of Germaine and his influence yet early departure from the show leads me to believe that when I look up the time he left that it will probably coincide with when I started to dislike the show. There was a time that it didn’t feel as mature as it had once been, and now I'm inclined to believe it was Germaine and co's departure.
Totally agree! Those first 65 episodes Germaine wrote is what made me a fan. Absolute bangers. I still liked it after but noticed something was different
2004 was the end of a lot of Klasky Csupo shows, Rugrats, wild Thornberrys, rocket power and As told by ginger aired their final episodes
And don't forget Hey Arnold!
"All Grown Up would go on to really dissappoint fans"
Really? Growing up myself in that time, I heard the opposite online. That fans (myself included) really loved it, and that they heavily hated Nickelodeon for never giving it the sixth season it deserved, as the show never recieved a conclusive ending.
I don't think people truly want a season 6, I think they want a season 5 that doesn't SUCK
It's called "All Growed Up" because that's how the babies say "grown" because they keep thinking the babies mispronouncing words was funny, so they started to overdo it.
I have no idea how that went over Sabersparks head
Lil: What's the ospo-tits?
How that got past the censors is beyond me!
He was pointing out the inconsistency between the special being named "growed" and the series being named "grown".
@@j.t.7671Estes Pangborn knew everything.
Interpersonal relationships are often the primary cause for most problems leading to any group effort ending in people leaving.
It's tragic, but understandable
The Wacky Adventures of Ronald McDonald mini series are my childhood!😅 I still have almost all of them on VHS as price possessions.
Mines too lol!
Honestly, I think it kind of served Rugrats well that there were different views on what to do with the show, Angelica, etc. It helped make for a more eclectic show than if they had been entirely on the same page.
I KNOW that Tim Curry has been in almost every Klasky Cuspo production from Rugrats to Aaahh real monsters to Wild Thornberrys
😮😮😮😮😮
9:59 If you weren't around back then, it would be hard to imagine Nick cared more about Rugrats than Spongebob.
Yeah
Yeah
Well done, saber, you have inspired nostalgiapression
Its not quite the longing for a past that may be misremembered but a profound sadness that such things no longer exist
I got a similar feeling. It hurts. :(
Rugrats hits completely differently once you've been around babies a lot. It got a lot funnier to me after my niece and nephew were born.
Born in '91 and grew up with all of these, Rocco's Modern Life, Ahh Real Monsters, and As Told By Ginger was so awesome.
As Told By Ginger was a Nickelodeon teenager show. All Grown Up! was a Disney teenager show. One is about teenagers for that age group, the other is for little kids looking up to teenagers
Its always sad to see how Klasky-Csupo gave us so much and they haven't done much for years. As told by ginger was peak for them, a show ahead of it's time. I wish they'd come back with something new or even show as told by ginger during college and possibly more adult oriented given the modern age.
I distinctly remember watching Rugrats on Netflix back in the early 2010s. Good times.
I’ve also heard great things about Duckman.
Yeah, watch duckman it’s both klasky csupos best work and
It’s the only show that a Seinfeld cast member worked on that’s just almost if not as good as Seinfeld.
You've made me feel so old lol
I remember watching Rugrats on Nickelodeon in the early 2010s before they completely removed it off the network. hell i remember watching it in the early 2000s and the movies in theaters
Just came back here after learning that Arlene has retired from animation and the studio is relocating, leaving their old building behind.
I think the aesthetic complaints about their style were akin to the complaints people have of that 'adventure time' style or what some people were calling 'CalArts' style more recently. Once something gets popular and people see a lot of that style, it gets a little oversaturated. It's this 90s iconic style because there was so much of it, and I'm sure some people felt there wasn't a lot of variety. It's not a big deal to have one kinda grungy style cartoon, but then to have everybody jump on that trend might make you a little grumpy if you aren't a fan of that look.
The difference is that no one but Klasky Csupo had that art style. Literally everyone was copying Cal Arts that's why people got sick of it
Arlene sounds like she was an absolute anchor. People didn't actually want to watch a show made FOR babies.
Or people just didn’t want to work on a show for babies
Teletubbies wants a word 😂
I forgot they worked on the In Living Color intro. Man that was such a good show. I used to watch it all the time. I had the whole box set. Don’t worry I’m old too
The wisdom of Homey D. Clown must be preserved
@@Drums_of_Liberation Homey don’t play dat!
Man oh man these shows deserved so much more.
24:26 I literally thought I was the only person who remembered those movies. My little brother literally tortured me by making them his favorite movies for 6 years.
I can tell you had so much fun making this! Imitating Nigel Thronberry lmao. As Told By Ginger is my favorite show too!!!
I remember a time were Nickelodeon had few original shows, and most of there cartoons were foreign. Belle and Sébastien, The Little Prince, Danger Mouse, Count Duckula, The World of David The Gnome, etc.
Didn't Ulysses 31 and The Mysterious Cities of Gold also air on Nickelodeon?
@@tugatomskanimation6370 I think Nickelodeon in Australia for Ulysses, but I'm not sure.
Don't forget Maple Town, Maya the Bee, and Little Koala.
@@nyanpirethecat2257 the animals of Maple Town stole my bike!
@@MonjeBedeiahthat was America except it never aired Ulysses.
"As Told by Ginger" is one of my favorite show.
Yeah me too
The McDonald’s tapes were not ill advised. I remember my mother bought me two of those tapes from the restaurant. Those tapes are fire!
Ironically, their old studio is still standing in Hollywood. Not sure if it's still active or not(I'm guessing not but I'll have to investigate more at some point 🤔). But The artwork of some of their shows from the 90s including Aww Real Monsters as well as other characters are painted on the outside and looks like it was originally done 30 yrs ago. It's like a time capsule looking at it from the outside.
The slander at 24:00 cannot be stood for, I absolutely loved those tapes as a kid
As the matter of fact, they did produced the adult animated classic series called Duckman. It was a very great series to rewatching it again. I feel so sorry for those two whom creating their studio before their downfall. Yikes.
Me too
That's really sad that the studio isn't around anymore. Besides duck man I enjoyed a lot of their shows.
I’m so happy to see the return of the “what ruined” video essay series that started me watching Saberspark in the first place.
I loved Rugrats as a kid. Seeing the studio behind it from its rise to fame and then fading to obscurity really shows how much Klasky Csupo will never be forgotten for the amazing shows it created that still stick with the kids who grew up with it that are now adults.
Their distinct artistic style worked best with Ahh Real Monsters, since it was more of a grungy show. You followed literal monsters, and even the humans in the show were "ugly" which made sense because the monsters in the show saw the humans as being ugly and disgusting.
I don’t know why people use Klasky Csupo for the weirdest reasons nowadays. You know what? Let them do their thing.
You mean, naughty stuff?
@juliangandara9552 no dude it's Sony Vegas effects
The logo kids are so weird man. They constantly use Spiffy Pictures as well. But I do agree, let them cook
@@juliangandara9552 yep. Somewhat.
@@BluffsCastle fr.
Saber Spark: I've watched In Living Color on Comedy Central! Im old!
Me & Gen-Xers: Ba-zitch Please! We were watching In Living Color when it 1st aired on Fox! Even saw Babs Bunny parodying Homie The Clown!😂❤