After 5 months of work, it's finally done! I consider this to be the best video on the channel so far. It features the best my team has to offer and it also includes one of the most interesting stories I've ever covered. I hope you enjoy it and I hope to provide content in the future that matches this video's caliber
🎵we are the piraaaates! Who dont do anythiiiiing! We just staaay home! And lie arooound!and if you aaask us, to do anythiiiing! We'll just teeeell you.... we dont do anythiiiing!🎵
Confession: When I was a kid watching this, whenever Larry the Cucumber said "They'd better not laugh" in the opening sequence I would go out of my way to laugh at him.
I actually met Phil while attending a Christian university in 2016, and he told us the story about the rise and fall of veggie tales and he pretty much blamed himself for the fall of VT because he got selfish and stopped putting God first. He was a pretty cool guy and I even got a selfie with him
At least he knew what happened God is really amazing when you want to share his word, he will really help you❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Hopefully everyone will be reminded about putting God first through Phils story.
I watched Veggie Tales growing up. I'm 34 now and songs like "Barbara Manatee" and "His Cheeseburger" still pop into my head unbidden quite often. Fond memories, man.
@chzybean Sport Utility Vehicle was so good. I think there was another one he did about a chocolate that melted while he was on the bus? That was nice, too.
@@jamesa.7549 was it the one about his hat at the bus stop? Something something "Oh golly, Mr. Arpagatti, tell me whaddya think of that?" Or something. That's the only part I can remember. Oh and, "A GREAT BIG SQUASH JUST SAT UPON MY HAT. A GREAT BIG SQUASH JUST SQUISHED MY HAT REAL FLAT."
Tragic story, but brilliantly researched! You've created a lovely eulogy to the VeggieTales franchise and shared a story with the world that may have never been told... Thank you for providing closure to a story that I didn't even know needed it.
In one of the Christmas silly songs, Larry slams the door on the IRS. This made 8 year old me think the IRS was a group of scammers and you should always hang up if they called or slam the door if they came.
Recipient of a few phone calls from them... their website said (at that time) the first way they contact you is by mail. No email, call or visit should be taken seriously.
I think the biggest strength about VeggieTales was that it taught morals more so than religion. Sure, the stories were mostly based on or inspired by Bible stories, and they quoted scripture and had their "God made you special" send-off, but the morals were "don't lie," "be kind to everyone," or "material possessions won't make you happy," and I think that's what really made it a show that everyone, even non-Christians, could enjoy.
All of those things are in the Bible tho. You just have to actually READ the book and see the themes outside of the general and obvious corruption from the stories being about humans. Cus individually humans are relatively okay and can be quite nice... but as a group we're often hateful, jealous, greedy dickheads lol. The Bible generally just tells you to do your best and be nice and helpful (and to put God first in other ways). Veggie tales did a good job at portraying the general messages in a fun way, without them directly reading about all the sex and murder that's also in there 😂
"Whatever happened to 'it's funny because it's true?'" "2+2=4 is true, but not funny. Guys?" "What is the solution to the equation 2 plus 2?" "I dunno. What does 2 plus 2 equal?" Whir... DING! "Weedeater."
It took me way longer to get that joke than I'd care to admit. But it works several ways: 1) random and nonsensical; 2) chicken was literally scared by a weed eater; 3) "we'd eat her."
My sister wrote a letter to Big Idea when she was like 10 asking if the French peas were inspired by Monty Python and the Holy Grail and they responded and said yes!
I grew up with Veggie Tales and 321 Penguins in the early 2000s and I still hold these shows in high regard because they were quality, had a good message, and were ultimately entertaining to watch. Despite problems with my faith in my mid to late teens, I will never forget the message in Veggie Tales because it reminds me that I am loved. Me and my sisters still quote lines and sing songs from Veggie Tales to this day. Phil's story is very bittersweet, but serves as a good reminder to not be prideful, even if with good intent.
I'm an hardcore atheist who grew up in a hardcore evangelical church I see religion as a cult but as a kid veggie tales was the only good memory I have of church and I have to completely agree with you.
Oh, don't worry, I'm sure there is a TON of idiots who get lucky with good ideas, rely on handouts to keep barely afloat and then screw everything up for everybody else while somehow keeping the fake persona of 'poor wittle huwt genius uWu'. Quite a lot of them get to milk it for money when people forget they're screw-ups too!
Whether you were atheist, agnostic or Christian. VeggieTales was enjoyable for all kids. In a day an age where Christian songs and media bored me to death as a kid. VeggieTales was something I very much enjoyed. I still remember the songs with fondness. Sad to see that they changed so much they fell. Should have stuck with what works.
@Jellybeanhater18 i wasn't talking to you IDC if you don't like us or not, just respect us. I try to respect catholics, up until they start attempting to convert us and tell us what we can And cannot do.
Phil failed for one main reason: he just wasn't a great businessman. He's a dreamer and an artist. He needed someone savvy to run the business side who believed in him and his vision. Many of his choices were just poorly thought out. That said, he did make something unique and exceptional that touched a lot of people and in the end that's the best an artist can hope for.
That's what he said: Beware of your dreams. If you want to make your dreams come true, you should be careful what you wished for. Phil might be the most creative Christian has to offer, but businesses can be rather complicated for him.
I’m Jewish, but I had a very Christian physical therapist (I’m disabled) Whenever I went to see her, she put in a VeggieTales tape for me I loved it so much, and I distinctly remember some Old Testament stuff in there
Veggie tales appealed to a secular audience because it wasn’t just a show about religion, it was a really good show, that happened to be about religion. Most religious shows put the religion first, and then the show, and just come off feeling like a weird propaganda. Veggie tales takes religion as a part of their show, but not the whole thing. They added a substance to their show that went beyond the religious aspects. Veggie tales wouldn’t be the same show if it wasn’t about religion, but there is so, so much more to it than religion that it can still stand on its own. That is a rare thing in Christian media.
@@nerobiblios4086 in fairness, Prince of Egypt would appeal to any of the Abrahamic religions, not just Christians. Moses is kind of a big deal in all of it.
I'm an atheist/anti-theist and yet I regularly listen to Christian metal bands like Becoming the Archetype, With Blood Comes Cleansing, The Devil Wears Prada, Blood of the Martyrs, and I the Breather. Can't deny well-written music even when the lyrics are kinda cringe :)
@@katyungodly sadly a lot of Christian bands that us Christians listen too aren't very good and are usually like "Oh we're christian and we sing about God what do you not like us singing about God?" Whenever there's any criticism. It sucks that there are better ones out there who don't get recognized.
This is the literal greatest documentary that I have ever seen on not only Veggie Tales, but Phil himself as well on UA-cam. I grew up with Veggie Tales literally from my earliest days as the youngest child, but I never knew the full story behind it's fall and holy crap is it truly devastating, I nearly got emotional over it all, now knowing everything Phil went through. Every bit of time and effort shows throughout this video and I watched it from start to finish. Also, just subscribed as well, so happy I came across your channel!
My mom wouldn't let me watch veggietales when i was younger because she said it was "bad for kids". I asked her why did the church let us watch it and just sent me to my room.
The amount of mysterious faceless entities that gave Phil help and little nudges of encouragement when he was starting out really feels like acts of angels. Fitting thing, considering the subject don’t you think?
So glad Phil got his show back in a way he’s happier with. Seems like a stand up dude. So glad there wasn’t some falling out between him and Mike, I was waiting for that drop.
Nintendotron64 I respect that he took that responsibility. I personally didn’t see a lot of selfishness or over-ambition to be honest. Maybe he could be accused of some lack of responsibility or leadership when he didn’t make sure his company was safe with a contract. But I in no way saw him selfish or idek how you could even be “over-ambitious”
Fun fact: when I was younger, I went to the live VeggieTales show, and they did a giveaway for a full collection of every episode. On the stage they announced the winner, and it happened to be my mom. I still have the box 👌
I always liked veggietales because their lessons for kids weren't "god will make everything okay" they had actual lessons important for kids like treating others the way you want to be treated, and doing what's right even when it's hard. Really incredible
As of now, Phil is no longer working on the Veggietales show because he and Mike were refused to have more creative control. The show is currently looking to recast the characters. Regardless, I'm glad that veggietales had one more season with the band back together, and it went out on a high note. That's more than can be said for other kids shows like Thomas the tank engine.
Veggietales: the only Christian show where the characters actually had character and didn't just talk about god Edit: and no I'm going to the shitty "OMg THx FOr THe LIkes GUys"
Don't worry, Phil's my dad and I had dinner with my parents just earlier tonight, so I can confirm that they're still going strong after 30 years of marriage!
He was sort of like the Christian Walt Disney until his business fell apart. You’ve got the early interest in art, dropping out of college, the best friend/business partner that helps found the studio (Phil with Mike and Walt with Ub Iwerks), pioneering a new medium and animation techniques, heck even the location Chicago (where Walt was born and spent his teen years before moving to Kansas City). Sad he couldn’t keep his company together, I hope in hindsight that Phil’s name is up there with Walts.
Walt's name is murkier tho. it's thanks to him that Disney owns everything and everyone. b/c of him the copyright laws were extended to basically forever. that means that we will never be able to see how other studios would interpret classic fairy tales or american legends
His tenure as the "Christian Walt Disney" was pretty short lived, especially considering he only ever made one successful franchise while every other franchise he made like 321 Penguins never caught on. Walt Disney made countless hits, while Phil was pretty much a one-hit wonder.
@@cooperminion825 Yes, but one can argue that that was due to Eisner and Katzenberg opening the company up to shareholders. When Walt died, his studio was basically the mom and pop shop of Hollywood studios.
It's really cool to see how many people were fans of Veggie Tales. I'm impressed that there's still a fandom of it. And it's really sweet of Phil to apologize in show. I'm just honestly glad to find a Christian UA-camr that isn't hateful or trying to force religion down others' throats, and also acknowledge that
i never really watched veggietales as a kid like the most memorable thing that i remember about the show was the characters predicting the future on how humor is randomly generated
i cant believe the company actually kicked the original creators (who happen to be bob & larry's voice actors) just so they could butcher the whole thing
You shouldn't be surprised. The forces of Evil hates anyone who stays on the side of the Almighty. And those forces will do whatever it takes to bring it down and destroy it.
That's just business in a nutshell. Any time a creator wants to hold onto their artistic influence it usually ends up with other, more profit focused, people pushing them out in favor of pushing their own agendas.
I actually shed a tear when you got to the part with Bob the Tomato apologizing to the crew. I felt that. Phil, if you're in the comments section and you see this- God bless. You did the best you could and you reached so many hearts with your cartoon. I hope you continue to prosper in the future. Many prayers for you, brother.
I have read the book several times. As a devoted Christian who discovered Veggie Tales in her teens, thanks for giving the show the time it deserves as one of the few modern Christian media pieces that has effort in it.
Even as someone who is strictly non-religious, I still love the show. It doesn’t come off as ‘indoctrination’ as many others do, but more of just telling you stories from the Bible, and how to be a good kid.
Honestly this. The thing with the bible is no matter if you believe it or not, there is some legitimately good stories in there religion aside that are worth sharing and VeggieTales took that concept and just RAN with it. And my goodness did it nail it
I am being humble when I am telling you that I am the most powerful strongest coolest smartest most famous greatest funniest UA-camr of all time! That's the reason I have multiple girlfriends and I show them off on my channel all the time! Bye bye ben
“Remember: God made you special, and He loves you very much!” Those words got me through my religiously traumatic childhood and upbringing and they still comfort me today. I absolutely adore Veggietales and I’m so grateful to Sabrespark for giving it the respect and time it deserves!
Except for the fact that it isn't true at all if you observe the basic facts of reality, lmao. All anything can hope for is a swift transfer into the state of permanent entropy, most species have been added to the fossil record and have not been remembered since. Billions of "special" humans, forgotten thousands of years ago, pulverized to dust, their faces never to be reimagined even. And ever still unfathomable eons lay before us in which we will sleep dreamless within.
Apparently, as a wee lad, I watched Larry Boy and the Rumor Weed so much that my parents had to buy me a second VHS copy of the movie because I had worn out the first one. I can't imagine how sick of it they must have been.
2:39 To be fair Bibleman was supposed to be corny, it was referencing the old Batman show, and, they even made fun of themselves in an episode. Bibleman was talking about a villain and said something like "He's a dirty villain who hides in the shadows, and he's cheap, just like our producers" as everyone looks at the camera.
I also remember a running gag in one episode where they point out their reusing an old villain with a new coat of paint, and it culminates in a genuinely badass one-liner during a lightsaber duel that I've never forgotten: "for a guy who's reinvented himself, you sure don't fight any better".
@@Double-R-Nothing " during a lightsaber duel that I've never forgotten" That one line made me realize that I know Bibleman and have seen at least 2 VHS tapes of it when I was being babysat by one of my mom's friends back in the early 2000's...
I'm extremely religious but I know you have a primarily secular audience. I love your critique on Christian media because it can be so poor quality we really need more content like OG Veggietales and The Chosen they are good shows and that's what Christian media should strive to be so good that even secular audiences will enjoy it.
Corporations: We're going to take what you made and remove everything that people loved about it. >Show fails twice Corporations: [Surprised Pikachu Face]
Removing a big part of anything leads to ruin. You practically have to go back to the drawing board, not go "well, this was successful before, if we reboot it now with a big chunk taken out we expect it to be more than the success of the previous work!". All those parts influence each other to make the formula .
Saber: *Hasn't put Monkey Moses in a video for some time* *makes a video about the biggest Christian show* Monkey Moses: And where did that bring you? Right back to me.
@@nxbula7540 It felt like they remembered "Oh yeah, veggietales was for christians. uh, we gotta throw something in so they don't click off!" Then pulled up a random bible verse generator and based it on that
I worked at Big Idea from Feb. of 2001 through April of 2003. My desk was about 20 feet from Mike and Phil's offices. I was there while all of this was happening, and it was the worst thing ever. I survived 2 rounds of layoffs, then got cut in the last round, right after Jonah was released. My name is in the movie credits! In the end, though, it was hands down the most fun place to work, and I was crushed when we all got let go. We got to do the most incredible things. For example, when Star Wars: Attack of the Clones was released, they rented the movie theater next to the mall where we all worked and the entire company got to go over and see it. There were cartoons painted all over the walls in the stair ways (artistic graffiti). I have so many stories. Really amazing.
My family was actually Christian (if only because of my grandmother) and we really liked veggietales. Glad it gets recognition and I can see it’s history.
It’s interesting and a little sad that this show is notable for having those traits. Isn’t that what Christianity is supposed to be all about? Amazing how rare those kind of messages and a general loving message with lack of judgement are in the rest of Christian media.
@@Rubber_duckie_floating jesus said to love as I have loved you, to his disciples. That kind of love is crazy powerful, he died for people that he created, some that didn't even accept him. But also remember he said there is no other way into heaven but through me, so not only do you have to love people, you also have to let them know how to be saved.
@@Rubber_duckie_floating I wouldn't say his words are subjective, there very objective, just people take it out of context or misinterpreted them. But I do agree that alot of churches want to call people sinners, knowing their righteousness is like filthy rags, and not focus on getting the word of God and all his teachings in them.
The redesign's for the characters aren't bad but there a definite down grade. I don't like how they gave them eyebrows. Sure they can be more expressive but like with these designs they don't work at all. But still that wont change how I view phill. He is a hardworking man no matter what
Man... I’m not even Christian anymore, but VeggieTales still holds up. Mostly because it focused on being a good show before being a Christian show. The show just feels warm and wholesome in the way that Christianity should, without all the “I’m better than you” pretentiousness, fear-mongering, and preaching against certain types of people that really soured me on religion in general. VeggieTales makes me feel nostalgia for a much less cynical time in my life.
@@jj2059 I very much disagree. My whole life I've mostly encountered this exact type of pretentious, "better than you", superior mindset. The exceptions are rare.
Simple Bitch even if most of the people you encountered were like that it doesn’t change my statement. Unfortunately it’s often that these types of people are the most outspoken whereas I would say most normal people belonging to the religion are quiet about their beliefs and faith. There are 2.4 billion Christians in the world. And billions belonging to other religions. Don’t let a couple bad dozen people you see dictate how you view a religion that billions belong to, however I can understand your position
I'm not gonna lie, I'm Catholic (it's basically the same thing as Christianity just with a few changes here and there), and yeah, I really am starting to notice some of the hypocrisies in religion. My parents are really devout Catholic (never going a day without mentioning the big Guy in the sky) and when I was little, I didn't really believe them when they said Catholics are NOT always perfect, and have done really messed up stuff in the past. Again, I was really little at the time. Obviously nowadays, I've grown up a little and I now understand what they meant. And I gotta say, I have mad respect for the religious people out there who actually try to give the religion a good name. To not think that they own the world or whatever because of their beliefs. They don't abuse the power of religion to do whatever they want. And as a Catholic, I sometimes wonder to myself, isn't the entire point of believing in God loving everyone else, regardless of their background. You can be friends with an atheist, jew, Buddhist, etc. and it would be totally cool. If everyone truly felt the love and compassion Christianity is supposed to exhibit rather than be super toxic about it? In short, I may not be the biggest fan of my being Catholic, but maybe down the road something will work out in the end. And watching this video kind of gives me some hope that maybe no matter bad things get, you might get something out of it. It may not be bad or even good. It could be terrible. But as long as it leaves an impact on you, and you try to own up to it, all I have to say to that is: God, you sir definitely have a weird but interesting way of making things work. Sorry for the rambling, but I just wanted to get that off my chest. I really should start re watching Veggietales. Saber wasn't kidding when he said this video would be big. Worth the wait!
Growing up in a religious household Veggie Tales was the most watched VHS in my home. I'm no longer religious but I still deeply love Veggie Tales and quote it all the time. The humor, kindness, music, and life lessons were just too good. I also had the Veggie Tales computer game and played that all the time. Barbara Manatee forever.
In an amazing twist of fate and irony, Phil’s story, reflects that of Jonah. He focused on the wrong thing and found himself in the belly of a whale. Then he turned himself around and God blessed his work again.
This was the most devastating and sad journey for a company I've heard in while. The bad management , lawsuits, frickin veggietales in the house being a thing, etc. Like I just feel bad that phil and the company had to go through all this. Thankfully they got a happy ending with the veggietales show, and hopefully it stays that way for a good while. Cause they do deserve a 2nd chance.
I think I heared or read that TBN used to air episodes of VeggieTales in the past, so the fact that TBN wanted the show backed I doubt Phil will go through all these hardships again.
Honestly I think the reason why so many groups enjoyed VeggieTales was because of the genuine care that went into it. It was wholesome and taught lessons, it was entertaining and kids liked it. Even if you weren't into the whole spiritual thing, many of the stories were easy to follow and relatable, with comedic skits and catchy songs happening in between. In a way, it was like a Saturday Night Live show for kids that was extremely wholesome.
Indeed. That's something that's (ironically) missing from a lot of Christian media, but secular media sometimes suffers too from productions that feel lackluster and careless. Memorable things (remembered for being good at least, not infamous ones) often have a feel of heart and enthusiasm. (And no, simply being brighter and louder doesn't replace that, even if it gets attention)
Yeah, I remember being a kid and not believing in god, not believing the stories, but I loved Veggietales because it was just so entertaining and there was so much love put into it.
@@koalasandwich567 Christian media is mostly sold through Christian bookstores, who receive merchandise through a tiny handful of distributors. If the content creator offends any one of them for whatever reason, they are effectively cancelled. So anything "Christian" has to be politically correct enough to make it through the corporate censors in order to have any chance of reaching their target audience, leaving the end result homogenous and boring. This process may sound familiar.
50:43 A little fun fact I should mention, SaberSpark: The animators on “Robots” who worked at Big Idea Productions before weren’t the only animators who worked on “Robots”. In fact, there are some animators that worked at DNA Productions (behind the Jimmy Timmy Power Hour) who also joined Blue Sky Studios to work on “Robots”.
This show was my childhood. I was pretty disappointed to see how drastically it had changed in recent years. It used to have so much more heart and personality. In its earlier days, it may not have looked especially stunning or had the biggest budget, but it definitely had some great writing, acting, and talent behind it. Best of all, it wasn't over the top with its Christian morals. The lessons were always approachable and never pretentious or forced which is kind of a rarity when it comes to religious children's media. Even now as someone who was raised Christian and later became agnostic, I still have an appreciation for the simplistic but effective way that the show introduced kids to complicated moral situations with an often overlooked sense of grace and humor.
Yeah, from what i remember the reason it’s more bearable to non-Christian audiences is the moral was never presented as “God said no, that’s the biggest reason why you shouldn’t do it” it was “This has negative effects on the people around you, ps it also makes our skyman sad”
I didn't even know it was a christian show up until recently. Whenever someone told me about Moses and his exodus, I always thought "Hey that's from veggie tales!"
Man, I have never realized how BIG veggie tales was until I watched this video. I grew up watching veggie tales. (I grew up in a Christian family) I am touched by hearing Phil’s story. He had faith in God despite the conditions. After veggie tales “died”, he didn’t question God, but instead he saw his mistakes.
I think at that time, Phil seeking to be the new Walt Disney, he made decisions without first consulting God, he did not realize that he began to idolize his company and money, in his mind he thought he was doing it for God, but his heart did it to want to be like Disney and being famous, that is why God allowed all those things to happen and lost his company, now that he has repented and confessed how he was influenced by the world, God has forgiven him and given him a new opportunity, and he recovered the program to get it right this time
As a Christian, myself, thank you for the genuine respect and care you treated the topic of people's religious beliefs. It's refreshing to see someone take time to seriously examine the merits, talent, and creativity the show had to offer instead of simply dismissing it because it's too Christian.
Yhea. ... Though, gotta love the irony in secularism became an opposition religion in its own right. People, like everything, will refuse that despite the truth of the matter.
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I still have the VHS tapes, DVDs and an audio tape of Silly Songs with Larry. It was such a formative part of my childhood, & it speaks to his brilliance that I can still enjoy the old veggietales stuff as an atheist adult
My mom told me when we were younger and watched VeggieTales the first time she heard them say, “god made you special, and he loves you very much.” She fell in love with the show
@@randomnameidk429 nah that's kinda helped the show grow, you don't see to many actually good Christian shows nowadays, this one is a true diamond in the rough
It literally was the perfect show, you get morals and humor (some edgy aka Larry Kissing a Bearded lady) and it never felt like it was pushing it in front of your face. It gives you a neutral experience that appeals to literally everyone
25:10 The simplistic-yet-expressive designs for all the characters are so brilliant from both an animation perspective and a marketing perspective. I once saw an interview with the creators of Phineas and Ferb where they said their design philosophy for the characters was to focus on one distinct shape any kid could draw as the baseline, because if a kid can't draw your character they won't feel connected to it and might feel bad about themselves, but making a character that's recognizable even in a three-year-old's crayon adaptation means that kid will draw your character over and over again. I can't even begin to count the number of times between the ages of 2 and 5 where I would draw a red circle and green oval on any sheet of paper, give them some big eyes and a smile, and imagine myself one day making my own VeggieTales show.
You can tell that Phil is an extremely good person, while he may have his flaws, he never did anything that he did in malice, and his whole motivation behind the show was to spread his own Christian beliefs in an incredibly respectful way.
I wholeheartedly agree with that, he had to sell Big Idea Productions, they were out of money from making Jonah, I remember being a member of the Super Fantastic VeggieTales Fan Club back in 2002-2003 maybe 4, they sent letters telling the club members they just didn't have money keep it going, they still honored the memberships and sent goodies including VHS tapes of the series, even though they were running out of tapes they could give away.
It’s kind of inspirational to me. I want to be an animator someday and tell stories like Phil wanted to, but I’ve always been doubtful about it. Phil had so much determination and faith that it kind of makes me a little confident too.
I cried deadass when you talked about bob apologizing I had no idea there were even reboots I’m gonna have to watch them and my boyfriend found me in the middle of watching it and got hooked mid video with no context or even any knowledge of what veggie tales was. Was well worth the wait. Magnum opus indeed my dude
Better yet, he got his redemption with The Veggie Tales Show which did come out rather recently. I do gotta admit, I'm curious to see what 2019 Veggie Tales did with the original production team sounds like.
Oooooooooooooooooooooh! Everybody's got a water buffalo! Yours is fast but mine is slow. Where'd we get them? I don't know. But everybody's got a water buffalooooooooooooooooooo!
Over an hour-long documentary and worth watching to the end. Just encountered your channel when it started showing up in my feed today (technically yesterday), and I'm already a fan and have subscribed.
@@itsthatonechickagaincallth7843 Then repent and come to Him before His return. He died and rose again for you because He loves you more than you could ever imagine. Live forever with Him my friend. 💖
WHAT? That's like...removing Johnny Depp from Edward Scissorhands! Which actually happened in today's Super Bowl commercial. Timothee Chalamet played his son, Edgar Scissorhands. I was very sad when they removed Johnny Depp from this new Scissorhands content. February 7, 2021, 7:24pm
Veggie tales was based on bible stories, learning basic memory verses, and moral lessons for children (share, don't lie, be kind-things you get from other children or preschool shows) being secular removes half of the content that made it what it was, but if done right may work. But really, it was what is who are no longer practicing or left the church remember. Many remember it fondly from what i know. And even if we don't believe anymore or have different views from the church we grew up in, remember this show as a joy. Personally, I wouldn't want to take God or christianity out of this show as it always did it fairly well. Granted, I have not seen it in years, so I may be misremembering it. But I do recall it being a happy part of Sunday school.
A couple times this week, I had moments when I felt like everything in crumbling around me and all endeavors were hopeless, but I remembered the video and Phil's story of, even when having a kid on the way, things got better and, at the very least, he was able to provide for his family in the end. Thinking of that gave me hope that, as long as you've got a fantastic lawyer, it'll be okay.
After 5 months of work, it's finally done! I consider this to be the best video on the channel so far. It features the best my team has to offer and it also includes one of the most interesting stories I've ever covered. I hope you enjoy it and I hope to provide content in the future that matches this video's caliber
Absolutely amazing video and the months of hard work on this payed off for sure!
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My spirit is a pirate who doesn't do anything.
🎵we are the piraaaates! Who dont do anythiiiiing! We just staaay home! And lie arooound!and if you aaask us, to do anythiiiing! We'll just teeeell you.... we dont do anythiiiing!🎵
Veggietales metal covers when?
I just came to say hi 👋
@@xlawxc You wouldn't happen to have Alestorm's phone number, would you?
@@xlawxc Skillet's Stand cover from Veggie Rocks: "Allow us to introduce ourselves..."
Everybody's got a water buffalo.
Yours is pink but mine is blue
You were the last person I was expecting Skul
Yours is fast but mine is slow
Where you get them, I don’t know
@@danielevans7439 but everybody's got a water buffalooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Confession: When I was a kid watching this, whenever Larry the Cucumber said "They'd better not laugh" in the opening sequence I would go out of my way to laugh at him.
Glad to know I'm not the only one that did that! ^^
Oof
You monster.
Guilty
You absolute mad lad 😱
I actually met Phil while attending a Christian university in 2016, and he told us the story about the rise and fall of veggie tales and he pretty much blamed himself for the fall of VT because he got selfish and stopped putting God first. He was a pretty cool guy and I even got a selfie with him
"because he got selfish and stopped putting God first." Wait, really? Can you tell me more, please?
He seems nice ,i feel bad for him
DID YOU MEET COLIN SLATER
HES A PRETTY NICE MAN
Dang that's sad 😔
At least he knew what happened
God is really amazing when you want to share his word, he will really help you❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Hopefully everyone will be reminded about putting God first through Phils story.
Im so glad he and his wife had a successful marriage. I was afraid the whole video you were just gunna drop their divorce on us.
His omen left me so afraid the whole video, I was so relived that nothing that bad happened.
Bro me too
Deadass same
I was waiting for it non stop. She's a great woman to stay through that. Most don't in these kind of stories
Oh thank God!!! I’m almost done and I worried a divorce was coming!
Ah yes, the show that always made me laugh whenever Bob got mad, because his face would always squish down like this:
(눈‸눈)
CrimsonRaider XV when bob gets mad it is funny
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
this is the most creative use of korean characters ive seen yet lol
I like how one of the rules of the show is just GOD IS NOT A VEGETABLE
*attempts to hold back joke*
Im pretty sure they broke that rule down the line, I vividly remember something VeggieTales related showing him as a carrot
@@nocaps Matthew 12:36 (KJV) But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
@@thehighflyer7288 that was a character within the series Playing The Role of jesus
Technically he became one when he was crucified
I watched Veggie Tales growing up. I'm 34 now and songs like "Barbara Manatee" and "His Cheeseburger" still pop into my head unbidden quite often. Fond memories, man.
I think Saberspark forgot to mention that there was a 2nd movie made in 2008.
Pizza Angel went so hard.
@@jamesa.7549 Do you remember "sport utility vehicle" or the water buffalo song??? All my childhood memories of this series are flooding back!
@chzybean Sport Utility Vehicle was so good. I think there was another one he did about a chocolate that melted while he was on the bus? That was nice, too.
@@jamesa.7549 was it the one about his hat at the bus stop? Something something "Oh golly, Mr. Arpagatti, tell me whaddya think of that?" Or something. That's the only part I can remember. Oh and, "A GREAT BIG SQUASH JUST SAT UPON MY HAT. A GREAT BIG SQUASH JUST SQUISHED MY HAT REAL FLAT."
Tragic story, but brilliantly researched! You've created a lovely eulogy to the VeggieTales franchise and shared a story with the world that may have never been told...
Thank you for providing closure to a story that I didn't even know needed it.
Roomie vs black gryph0n who will win?
Who knew there was a deeper backstory behind some veggies that use the force as their hands.
@@theholydingo8694 Roomie
Pray to the canis lupus dingo
Hey, it's u!
In one of the Christmas silly songs, Larry slams the door on the IRS.
This made 8 year old me think the IRS was a group of scammers and you should always hang up if they called or slam the door if they came.
_And I've come to tax your-_
Well.. if you are called by the phone by the IRS telling you that you owe them with a strange accent, that's a good idea.
Recipient of a few phone calls from them... their website said (at that time) the first way they contact you is by mail. No email, call or visit should be taken seriously.
This is the IRS! And we've come to tax your-
*DOOR SLAM*
I love that Silly Song With Larry, I’ve memorized a ton of them
Veggie Tales : One of the few Christian franchise that had actual effort put into it .
Sadly.
Idk, Adventures in Odyssey had some effort put into it
bro have you even heard about the crusades
@@Hornheart22 Well there is a couple of exceptions anyway.
*ganther’s pond intensifies*
I think the biggest strength about VeggieTales was that it taught morals more so than religion. Sure, the stories were mostly based on or inspired by Bible stories, and they quoted scripture and had their "God made you special" send-off, but the morals were "don't lie," "be kind to everyone," or "material possessions won't make you happy," and I think that's what really made it a show that everyone, even non-Christians, could enjoy.
All of those things are in the Bible tho. You just have to actually READ the book and see the themes outside of the general and obvious corruption from the stories being about humans. Cus individually humans are relatively okay and can be quite nice... but as a group we're often hateful, jealous, greedy dickheads lol.
The Bible generally just tells you to do your best and be nice and helpful (and to put God first in other ways). Veggie tales did a good job at portraying the general messages in a fun way, without them directly reading about all the sex and murder that's also in there 😂
Remember that episode that went like:
"Why did the chicken cross the road?"
"I don't know, why?"
" W E E D E A T E R"
In the future entertainment will be randomly generated.
"Whatever happened to 'it's funny because it's true?'"
"2+2=4 is true, but not funny. Guys?"
"What is the solution to the equation 2 plus 2?"
"I dunno. What does 2 plus 2 equal?"
Whir... DING!
"Weedeater."
i love that the episode predicted today's meme culture
It took me way longer to get that joke than I'd care to admit. But it works several ways: 1) random and nonsensical; 2) chicken was literally scared by a weed eater; 3) "we'd eat her."
@@HistoricHeroine OH JAJCJDJX
Better joke: "in this corner, weighing in at $1.29 per pound, Larry"
Best comment XD
*laughs in british*
Stroke?
Where in the US is tomatoes that expensive?
@@EmpressOfDestruction larry is the cucumber
My sister wrote a letter to Big Idea when she was like 10 asking if the French peas were inspired by Monty Python and the Holy Grail and they responded and said yes!
I mean....that makes sense. The first time that Jean-Claude and Philippe are seen are on the walls of Jericho, making fun of Joshua Asparagus.
Omg now that makes sense 😂
In Jonah there is an Easter Egg where the French Peas are trying to bootleg the movie. They go full Monty Python when the usher tells them to stop.
@@andrewollmann304 Joshua is played by Larry who is a cucumber NOT an asparagus
There's one in "Where's God When I'm Scared?" as well.
"Look out the window, Junior. What do you see?"
"My curtains!"
I grew up with Veggie Tales and 321 Penguins in the early 2000s and I still hold these shows in high regard because they were quality, had a good message, and were ultimately entertaining to watch. Despite problems with my faith in my mid to late teens, I will never forget the message in Veggie Tales because it reminds me that I am loved. Me and my sisters still quote lines and sing songs from Veggie Tales to this day. Phil's story is very bittersweet, but serves as a good reminder to not be prideful, even if with good intent.
He predicted that humor will be randomly generated in the future, Larry is a cucumber prophet of God.
Dear God why do I see you EVERYWHERE
Found you again
Hello there
Hola
V e g g i e t a l e s
Phil's life sounds like an actual Bible story.
It sounds an awful lot like the book of Job now that I think about it...
Yeah god sent him $400
@@nonymouswisp8176 but seriously who sent him the money?
Definitely a bible story
Lukedawoop oppdawoop god
I respect him. He made what he loved. And he stuck to his principles. Even as a non Christian I wish more people were like him.
I agree, 100%
I agree!!
I agree, not many people are like that.
I'm an hardcore atheist who grew up in a hardcore evangelical church I see religion as a cult but as a kid veggie tales was the only good memory I have of church and I have to completely agree with you.
Oh, don't worry, I'm sure there is a TON of idiots who get lucky with good ideas, rely on handouts to keep barely afloat and then screw everything up for everybody else while somehow keeping the fake persona of 'poor wittle huwt genius uWu'. Quite a lot of them get to milk it for money when people forget they're screw-ups too!
Whether you were atheist, agnostic or Christian. VeggieTales was enjoyable for all kids. In a day an age where Christian songs and media bored me to death as a kid. VeggieTales was something I very much enjoyed. I still remember the songs with fondness. Sad to see that they changed so much they fell. Should have stuck with what works.
Not really didnt kniw anyone the like veggie tales
@@wisdomfox857 Well, okay. Everyone has their own tastes.
I still watch VeggieTales sometimes and I'm no longer religious. They were a big part of my upbringing so it was comforting
Or Satanist.
I'm a Satanist, and even I like it! Veggietales was great. Fully agree.
@Jellybeanhater18 i wasn't talking to you
IDC if you don't like us or not, just respect us.
I try to respect catholics, up until they start attempting to convert us and tell us what we can And cannot do.
"Phil had a policy in mind: to make a christian show that wasn't just good for christians, but for all viewers"
Pure Flix: wait, that's illegal
El Pretender what’s Pure Flix
@@IcyDiamond a all christian netflix
Call me Anon never heard of it lol
@@IcyDiamond it's the studio responsable for the God's not Dead franchise....yes it's a franchise.....
Veggietales also only tells old testament stories, because phil made a promise to his mom to never portray jesus as a vegetable
"Literally nothing could go wrong."
*30 MINUTES LEFT*
There’s were Bubsy goes and says “what could possibly go wrong”.
@@michaelnally2841 I thought of "Oh no it all went wrong!" from Chowder.
ua-cam.com/video/TIZneWRGxZ8/v-deo.html
BoTW death noises
Phil failed for one main reason: he just wasn't a great businessman. He's a dreamer and an artist. He needed someone savvy to run the business side who believed in him and his vision. Many of his choices were just poorly thought out. That said, he did make something unique and exceptional that touched a lot of people and in the end that's the best an artist can hope for.
Honestly, this. You have to be humble enough to know where you need help
In that sense, he really wasn't a failure.
That's what he said: Beware of your dreams. If you want to make your dreams come true, you should be careful what you wished for. Phil might be the most creative Christian has to offer, but businesses can be rather complicated for him.
How do you know Larry touched me? That was like 4 years ago.
Agreed!
I’m Jewish, but I had a very Christian physical therapist (I’m disabled)
Whenever I went to see her, she put in a VeggieTales tape for me
I loved it so much, and I distinctly remember some Old Testament stuff in there
Yeah they definitely did a lot of Old Testament (probably bc of rule #1💀)
" In the future , humor will be randomly generated "
- Larry the Cucumber (2003)
WEED EATER
W E E D E A T E R
Did some one say W E E D E A T E R...
"weed eater"
Phil viscer and hideo kojima were ahead of their time
Veggie tales appealed to a secular audience because it wasn’t just a show about religion, it was a really good show, that happened to be about religion. Most religious shows put the religion first, and then the show, and just come off feeling like a weird propaganda. Veggie tales takes religion as a part of their show, but not the whole thing. They added a substance to their show that went beyond the religious aspects. Veggie tales wouldn’t be the same show if it wasn’t about religion, but there is so, so much more to it than religion that it can still stand on its own. That is a rare thing in Christian media.
Like the Prince of Egypt? Hell yeah
@@viyaGyudon Prince of Egypt was the shit, it's still amazing till today.
To put it short, the show was about Christianity, but it wasn't ALL about Christianity
Mewtube Riverwood that’s a good way to put it
@@nerobiblios4086 in fairness, Prince of Egypt would appeal to any of the Abrahamic religions, not just Christians. Moses is kind of a big deal in all of it.
It’s amazing when you don’t have to be Christian to enjoy something aimed at Christians. That’s the mark of a good storyteller.
You got that right!
I'm an atheist/anti-theist and yet I regularly listen to Christian metal bands like Becoming the Archetype, With Blood Comes Cleansing, The Devil Wears Prada, Blood of the Martyrs, and I the Breather. Can't deny well-written music even when the lyrics are kinda cringe :)
@@katyungodly sadly a lot of Christian bands that us Christians listen too aren't very good and are usually like "Oh we're christian and we sing about God what do you not like us singing about God?" Whenever there's any criticism. It sucks that there are better ones out there who don't get recognized.
I grew up raised in church and im agnostic and 28 now but I still catch myself looking up "his cheeseburger" at least once a month
you pretty much just summed up christian rock and metal for me lol
This is the literal greatest documentary that I have ever seen on not only Veggie Tales, but Phil himself as well on UA-cam. I grew up with Veggie Tales literally from my earliest days as the youngest child, but I never knew the full story behind it's fall and holy crap is it truly devastating, I nearly got emotional over it all, now knowing everything Phil went through. Every bit of time and effort shows throughout this video and I watched it from start to finish. Also, just subscribed as well, so happy I came across your channel!
VeggieTales felt like the funny and chill friend who just so happened to be Christian
Lol you described me in a nutshell
....I think I know how people see me now
Exactly!
Literally my friend
That's me, my friend can confirm
My mom wouldn't let me watch veggietales when i was younger because she said it was "bad for kids". I asked her why did the church let us watch it and just sent me to my room.
…Wow😯
Loool
@Johnny Steve That's not true
@Johnny Steve every church in existense?
@@isakayyik966 he is joking
The amount of mysterious faceless entities that gave Phil help and little nudges of encouragement when he was starting out really feels like acts of angels.
Fitting thing, considering the subject don’t you think?
So glad Phil got his show back in a way he’s happier with. Seems like a stand up dude. So glad there wasn’t some falling out between him and Mike, I was waiting for that drop.
Me too. Something similar to the ID software breakup.
I'm honestly just impressed Phil had the humility to accept his overambition and selfishness. Not everyone can do that.
Nintendotron64 I respect that he took that responsibility. I personally didn’t see a lot of selfishness or over-ambition to be honest. Maybe he could be accused of some lack of responsibility or leadership when he didn’t make sure his company was safe with a contract. But I in no way saw him selfish or idek how you could even be “over-ambitious”
Fun fact: when I was younger, I went to the live VeggieTales show, and they did a giveaway for a full collection of every episode. On the stage they announced the winner, and it happened to be my mom. I still have the box 👌
Nice for you
Nice
thats cool
:0
AMAZING!
tropxcana :3 DUDE
I always liked veggietales because their lessons for kids weren't "god will make everything okay" they had actual lessons important for kids like treating others the way you want to be treated, and doing what's right even when it's hard. Really incredible
They taught the Bible, in a simple way for kids. I loved the show growing up, I think it really did put the God is always with you in my heart.
WOLF TRACER TEACHES BETTER LEASONS FOR KIDS
@@icemanfreezezing BUT WOLF TRACER IS UNDOUBTEDLY THE BETTER COMPANY HERE DUDE
Ironically, it seems that around the worst times in the company's run, it was Phil telling himself that God would make everything okay.
Tbh I'm not religious nor did I grow up religious but I adored this show when I was little
As of now, Phil is no longer working on the Veggietales show because he and Mike were refused to have more creative control. The show is currently looking to recast the characters. Regardless, I'm glad that veggietales had one more season with the band back together, and it went out on a high note. That's more than can be said for other kids shows like Thomas the tank engine.
Veggietales: the only Christian show where the characters actually had character and didn't just talk about god
Edit: and no I'm going to the shitty "OMg THx FOr THe LIkes GUys"
I wish more Christian media was like this.
@@silverwizardess7921 Have you watched The Prince of Egypt?
Grammar
@@customerservice1565
That’s more so just a retelling of story from Abrahamic mythology rather than just a Christian film
Tad Strange Mythology? I think the correct term is Biblical.
I’m 60 minutes in and if this Phil dude gets a divorce I’m gonna cry myself to sleep in about 10 minutes.
Guys! It's The Fold! The writers of the weekend whip of Ninjago!
Fortunately not.
Peter Miles Oh dang it is them
Don't worry, Phil's my dad and I had dinner with my parents just earlier tonight, so I can confirm that they're still going strong after 30 years of marriage!
@@vischer9530 wow its awesome that one of Phil's kids watched this video.
He was sort of like the Christian Walt Disney until his business fell apart. You’ve got the early interest in art, dropping out of college, the best friend/business partner that helps found the studio (Phil with Mike and Walt with Ub Iwerks), pioneering a new medium and animation techniques, heck even the location Chicago (where Walt was born and spent his teen years before moving to Kansas City). Sad he couldn’t keep his company together, I hope in hindsight that Phil’s name is up there with Walts.
Walt's name is murkier tho. it's thanks to him that Disney owns everything and everyone. b/c of him the copyright laws were extended to basically forever. that means that we will never be able to see how other studios would interpret classic fairy tales or american legends
His tenure as the "Christian Walt Disney" was pretty short lived, especially considering he only ever made one successful franchise while every other franchise he made like 321 Penguins never caught on. Walt Disney made countless hits, while Phil was pretty much a one-hit wonder.
@@cooperminion825 Yes, but one can argue that that was due to Eisner and Katzenberg opening the company up to shareholders. When Walt died, his studio was basically the mom and pop shop of Hollywood studios.
I guess Phil should have spent a few years in Marceline. Then he would have been totally successful!
@@aaronsarchive82 but he lobbied congress to extend the copyright laws when he realized that mickey mouse was about to enter the public domain
It's really cool to see how many people were fans of Veggie Tales. I'm impressed that there's still a fandom of it. And it's really sweet of Phil to apologize in show. I'm just honestly glad to find a Christian UA-camr that isn't hateful or trying to force religion down others' throats, and also acknowledge that
i never really watched veggietales as a kid
like the most memorable thing that i remember about the show was the characters predicting the future on how humor is randomly generated
same here
*W E E D E A T E R*
Same, in my country (argentina) never passed veggietales (i'm talking 10 years ago)
Veggie Tales was really good, putting that aside 😂
AAAAND you just figured that out by reading the comments on saberspark
i cant believe the company actually kicked the original creators (who happen to be bob & larry's voice actors) just so they could butcher the whole thing
Are you really surprised?!
When they got aquired under stupid allegations?
You shouldn't be surprised. The forces of Evil hates anyone who stays on the side of the Almighty. And those forces will do whatever it takes to bring it down and destroy it.
That's just business in a nutshell.
Any time a creator wants to hold onto their artistic influence it usually ends up with other, more profit focused, people pushing them out in favor of pushing their own agendas.
Welcome to the entertainment industry
that happens all the time lol
I actually shed a tear when you got to the part with Bob the Tomato apologizing to the crew. I felt that.
Phil, if you're in the comments section and you see this- God bless. You did the best you could and you reached so many hearts with your cartoon. I hope you continue to prosper in the future. Many prayers for you, brother.
Felt that. It was very touching. I can respect that. ^^
Agreed
I have read the book several times. As a devoted Christian who discovered Veggie Tales in her teens, thanks for giving the show the time it deserves as one of the few modern Christian media pieces that has effort in it.
ESO IS A BETTER GAME
I HOPE YOUR KIDS GROW UP WITH ESO THEY WILL GROW UP TO BE TOUGH
I got into "VeggieTales" when my son was little. I still enjoyed it even after he outgrew it.
Even as someone who is strictly non-religious, I still love the show. It doesn’t come off as ‘indoctrination’ as many others do, but more of just telling you stories from the Bible, and how to be a good kid.
Yes as a Christian I agree
Honestly this. The thing with the bible is no matter if you believe it or not, there is some legitimately good stories in there religion aside that are worth sharing and VeggieTales took that concept and just RAN with it. And my goodness did it nail it
@@AstralPhnx
Exhibit A: Prince Of Egypt.
Bible is meant to educate, not indoctrinate. 99.99% of Churches should take note of that.
Yeah I can see you're strictly non religious by your ahegao profile picture 🤢
Very well done and incredibly researched. Great work bro!
Hello there Jax
Not a party until Jaxblade in the house. Sup?
JaxBlade hey Jax
Dude those updated designs are exactly the opposite of the show is supposed to mean.
They're *UNHOLY.*
We most plague them from this world
I'm confused
I am being humble when I am telling you that I am the most powerful strongest coolest smartest most famous greatest funniest UA-camr of all time! That's the reason I have multiple girlfriends and I show them off on my channel all the time! Bye bye ben
@@khatunamezvrishvili6211 the comment or the veggietale designs?
@@SoulSlugArts why are they unholy
The intro admittedly brought back so much nostalgia. I miss this show, kinda. I miss watching it at my grandparents house off of vhs and dvds
“Remember: God made you special, and He loves you very much!” Those words got me through my religiously traumatic childhood and upbringing and they still comfort me today. I absolutely adore Veggietales and I’m so grateful to Sabrespark for giving it the respect and time it deserves!
Religiously Traumatic? Did you have one of “Those” households?
24:08 AHHHHHHHHHHH 🗿
Except for the fact that it isn't true at all if you observe the basic facts of reality, lmao. All anything can hope for is a swift transfer into the state of permanent entropy, most species have been added to the fossil record and have not been remembered since. Billions of "special" humans, forgotten thousands of years ago, pulverized to dust, their faces never to be reimagined even. And ever still unfathomable eons lay before us in which we will sleep dreamless within.
@@kilderok ua-cam.com/video/9ZjLxk0djyE/v-deo.html
@@kilderok dude...
Apparently, as a wee lad, I watched Larry Boy and the Rumor Weed so much that my parents had to buy me a second VHS copy of the movie because I had worn out the first one. I can't imagine how sick of it they must have been.
“Hasta la vista Weedie” ah the memories
@@andyn46 (spills weed killer)
"Wrong button"
I watched the superhero movie, it was pretty good,
I'm A rUmOr WeEd
Consider your movie… postponed.
2:39 To be fair Bibleman was supposed to be corny, it was referencing the old Batman show, and, they even made fun of themselves in an episode. Bibleman was talking about a villain and said something like "He's a dirty villain who hides in the shadows, and he's cheap, just like our producers" as everyone looks at the camera.
Yeah bibleman ws amazing for all the 'wrong' reasons.
I also remember a running gag in one episode where they point out their reusing an old villain with a new coat of paint, and it culminates in a genuinely badass one-liner during a lightsaber duel that I've never forgotten: "for a guy who's reinvented himself, you sure don't fight any better".
@@Double-R-Nothing " during a lightsaber duel that I've never forgotten" That one line made me realize that I know Bibleman and have seen at least 2 VHS tapes of it when I was being babysat by one of my mom's friends back in the early 2000's...
Mr. Snark
Now I’m getting bibleman for bible study
I'm extremely religious but I know you have a primarily secular audience. I love your critique on Christian media because it can be so poor quality we really need more content like OG Veggietales and The Chosen they are good shows and that's what Christian media should strive to be so good that even secular audiences will enjoy it.
Oh, I don't think I've heard of The Chosen! What's that about?
It’s a show about Jesus and his disciples. Even as an atheist, I liked the few episodes I watched.
Other Christian Shows: Atheists bad, Christians Good
Vedggetales: Woah, will don't do that here
Vemgiitail just vibes ngl
Thats why I still enjoy veggietales but slightly ruined by the netflix series
@@callmeanon307 congrats on being the only one here who knows how to spell the name of the show, despite us all being fans lol
@@stevenbrown5246 thanks lol
I watched this as a kid and only remember it being semi Christian, I think that's a big reason why it blew up.
Corporations: We're going to take what you made and remove everything that people loved about it.
>Show fails twice
Corporations: [Surprised Pikachu Face]
That sounds about right. *X'DDD*
Yep.
Same thing happened to Thomas and friends
@@tancoplays3502 what did they change about thomas that you didn't like?
Removing a big part of anything leads to ruin. You practically have to go back to the drawing board, not go "well, this was successful before, if we reboot it now with a big chunk taken out we expect it to be more than the success of the previous work!". All those parts influence each other to make the formula .
“Furry man talks about sentient Christian vegetables for an hour.” Circa 2020 (Colorized)
OwO
UwU
UWO
OWU
ÒwÓ
During the video the mention of divorce was something in the show business called “foreshadowing”
Saber: *Hasn't put Monkey Moses in a video for some time*
*makes a video about the biggest Christian show*
Monkey Moses: And where did that bring you? Right back to me.
NO
NOOOOOOOOOOO
*shivers*
that’s a MONKEY??
Netflix: removes Religious content from
Veggietales
Literally everyone: *”What you have done has made God very unhappy”*
And the few times they made it religious, it seemed so forced
@@nxbula7540 It felt like they remembered "Oh yeah, veggietales was for christians. uh, we gotta throw something in so they don't click off!" Then pulled up a random bible verse generator and based it on that
GOD IS BIGGER THEN THE BOOGY MAN-
I mean, its a mainstream company.
Hahah 🤣
6 year old me: “B-but tomatoes and cucumbers are technically fruits!”
Veggietales: *well yes but actually no*
Yo this comment deserves more hype ❤️
Hear me out.
Larry looks like a pickle in the reboot.
I mean there's also Madame Blueberry
@@boopsdoops he isn’t a pickle in the reboot??
@@real_magixrex1252 larry's normally a cucumber, right?
@5:39 - I love that you found this and included it. Oh my word, what a trip.
I worked at Big Idea from Feb. of 2001 through April of 2003. My desk was about 20 feet from Mike and Phil's offices. I was there while all of this was happening, and it was the worst thing ever. I survived 2 rounds of layoffs, then got cut in the last round, right after Jonah was released. My name is in the movie credits! In the end, though, it was hands down the most fun place to work, and I was crushed when we all got let go. We got to do the most incredible things. For example, when Star Wars: Attack of the Clones was released, they rented the movie theater next to the mall where we all worked and the entire company got to go over and see it. There were cartoons painted all over the walls in the stair ways (artistic graffiti). I have so many stories. Really amazing.
Wow dude
That's Amazing
It’s nice to see that Phil treated his staff as best as he could
That's so cool! Thank you for making so many childhoods better :)
you should have gave an interview for Saber. Would have been awesome to get some people from the company to speak about it. :)
i still remember the song “God is Bigger than the Boogie man” BRUH THAT STILL IS IN MY SOUL
🎵he's bigger than godzilla or the monsters on tv🎵
@@Beth4ny 🎵oh God is bigger than the boogeyman and he's watching out for you and me🎵
69 likes, make a wish!
Omg I remembered the tune the second I read the lyrics and I didn’t even remember that song! 😂😂 it’s subconsciously embedded in my head
Well have I got a story for you!
Half of the Chat: *Normal conversation*
The other half: WEED EATER
OHH I GET IT MRKRABS
Ha guys Weed eater amirite?
Tbh, weedeater was funny the first time but the chat just drained it.
You forgot "we shall sacrifice our first born in the name of Larry the cucumber"
@Sean Wilkinson no I think the joke is that, theres just no joke, it’s supposed to be unfunny because it’s randomly generated.
My family was actually Christian (if only because of my grandmother) and we really liked veggietales. Glad it gets recognition and I can see it’s history.
Veggytails preached love, never hate. That is what made it a ground breaking Christian show because it didn't discriminate it simply told about love.
It’s interesting and a little sad that this show is notable for having those traits. Isn’t that what Christianity is supposed to be all about? Amazing how rare those kind of messages and a general loving message with lack of judgement are in the rest of Christian media.
@@AlbinoAxolotl to me God's words are subjective. God told the people to love everyone. The people who hate are not following God's rules.
@@Rubber_duckie_floating jesus said to love as I have loved you, to his disciples. That kind of love is crazy powerful, he died for people that he created, some that didn't even accept him. But also remember he said there is no other way into heaven but through me, so not only do you have to love people, you also have to let them know how to be saved.
@@Rubber_duckie_floating I wouldn't say his words are subjective, there very objective, just people take it out of context or misinterpreted them. But I do agree that alot of churches want to call people sinners, knowing their righteousness is like filthy rags, and not focus on getting the word of God and all his teachings in them.
@@Spearmint22425 yeah
The redesign's for the characters aren't bad but there a definite down grade. I don't like how they gave them eyebrows.
Sure they can be more expressive but like with these designs they don't work at all. But still that wont change how I view phill. He is a hardworking man no matter what
When you add detail to something that was basically a stretched circle with eyes and a mouth, it tends to look off-putting
They, look like they're friggin high.
Eyebrows do give more expression, but yeah, it looks off on these guys. XD
The color in their eyes *Shiver*
Uncanny as hell
I didn't even know they rebooted Veggietales...that looks disgusting.
Sam I agree
To the Netflix series my eyes
looked up vegetales again, a year ago they released a trailer for another new version that look alot more faithful to what i remember seeing as a kid
My little sister loves the reboot. I am disgusted
FoxArts 6 that monster >:C
There's a line from Bob the Tomato that fits this story surprisingly well...
"I'm depressed."
"I only ate meat for 5 months to be safe!" He's confused but has the right spirit
I can sense the scurvy.
thatveganteacher: 👁👄👁
Filthyfrank: *Yes, my child*
what was the joke
"Remember, as long as a vegetable is not talking to you, it's okay to eat it."
Mike Nawrocki, 2004.
I guess Larry didn't like introverts.
The changes in artstyle to make it "more modern" kill so many franchises. It's a shame how few industries pay mind to that
it really does.
It's true. Surprised people haven't figured that out in the age of nostalgia
I hate that.
Make it modern.
Most modern things look ugly.
@@josflorida5346 Nostalgia can be a dangerous thing though
@@Whocares158 "Today's bullsh1t tomorrow's nostalgia" - Pan Pizza
Man... I’m not even Christian anymore, but VeggieTales still holds up. Mostly because it focused on being a good show before being a Christian show. The show just feels warm and wholesome in the way that Christianity should, without all the “I’m better than you” pretentiousness, fear-mongering, and preaching against certain types of people that really soured me on religion in general. VeggieTales makes me feel nostalgia for a much less cynical time in my life.
Those type of people you describe don’t represent their religion
@@jj2059 I very much agree
@@jj2059 I very much disagree. My whole life I've mostly encountered this exact type of pretentious, "better than you", superior mindset. The exceptions are rare.
Simple Bitch even if most of the people you encountered were like that it doesn’t change my statement. Unfortunately it’s often that these types of people are the most outspoken whereas I would say most normal people belonging to the religion are quiet about their beliefs and faith. There are 2.4 billion Christians in the world. And billions belonging to other religions. Don’t let a couple bad dozen people you see dictate how you view a religion that billions belong to, however I can understand your position
I'm not gonna lie, I'm Catholic (it's basically the same thing as Christianity just with a few changes here and there), and yeah, I really am starting to notice some of the hypocrisies in religion. My parents are really devout Catholic (never going a day without mentioning the big Guy in the sky) and when I was little, I didn't really believe them when they said Catholics are NOT always perfect, and have done really messed up stuff in the past. Again, I was really little at the time.
Obviously nowadays, I've grown up a little and I now understand what they meant. And I gotta say, I have mad respect for the religious people out there who actually try to give the religion a good name. To not think that they own the world or whatever because of their beliefs. They don't abuse the power of religion to do whatever they want. And as a Catholic, I sometimes wonder to myself, isn't the entire point of believing in God loving everyone else, regardless of their background. You can be friends with an atheist, jew, Buddhist, etc. and it would be totally cool. If everyone truly felt the love and compassion Christianity is supposed to exhibit rather than be super toxic about it?
In short, I may not be the biggest fan of my being Catholic, but maybe down the road something will work out in the end. And watching this video kind of gives me some hope that maybe no matter bad things get, you might get something out of it. It may not be bad or even good. It could be terrible. But as long as it leaves an impact on you, and you try to own up to it, all I have to say to that is: God, you sir definitely have a weird but interesting way of making things work.
Sorry for the rambling, but I just wanted to get that off my chest. I really should start re watching Veggietales. Saber wasn't kidding when he said this video would be big. Worth the wait!
Growing up in a religious household Veggie Tales was the most watched VHS in my home. I'm no longer religious but I still deeply love Veggie Tales and quote it all the time. The humor, kindness, music, and life lessons were just too good. I also had the Veggie Tales computer game and played that all the time. Barbara Manatee forever.
20 years later, I still remember those brightly colored VHS tapes - and most of the lyrics to Barbara Manatee, for some reason 😭
In an amazing twist of fate and irony, Phil’s story, reflects that of Jonah. He focused on the wrong thing and found himself in the belly of a whale. Then he turned himself around and God blessed his work again.
My name is Khalil.
Shoot that’s REALLY ironic considering the Jonah movie was what dragged them down
Oh wow, you’re completely right! It’s actually kind of scary how ironic that is
Now poor old Jonah
Now he's all Alone-uh
Hi Caleb. Love your covers. Your voice is awesome
This was the most devastating and sad journey for a company I've heard in while. The bad management , lawsuits, frickin veggietales in the house being a thing, etc. Like I just feel bad that phil and the company had to go through all this. Thankfully they got a happy ending with the veggietales show, and hopefully it stays that way for a good while. Cause they do deserve a 2nd chance.
I think I heared or read that TBN used to air episodes of VeggieTales in the past, so the fact that TBN wanted the show backed I doubt Phil will go through all these hardships again.
Honestly I think the reason why so many groups enjoyed VeggieTales was because of the genuine care that went into it. It was wholesome and taught lessons, it was entertaining and kids liked it. Even if you weren't into the whole spiritual thing, many of the stories were easy to follow and relatable, with comedic skits and catchy songs happening in between. In a way, it was like a Saturday Night Live show for kids that was extremely wholesome.
Indeed. That's something that's (ironically) missing from a lot of Christian media, but secular media sometimes suffers too from productions that feel lackluster and careless. Memorable things (remembered for being good at least, not infamous ones) often have a feel of heart and enthusiasm.
(And no, simply being brighter and louder doesn't replace that, even if it gets attention)
I think Chirstian media often puts the horse before the cart
Yeah, I remember being a kid and not believing in god, not believing the stories, but I loved Veggietales because it was just so entertaining and there was so much love put into it.
Nothing beats pizza angel
@@koalasandwich567
Christian media is mostly sold through Christian bookstores, who receive merchandise through a tiny handful of distributors. If the content creator offends any one of them for whatever reason, they are effectively cancelled.
So anything "Christian" has to be politically correct enough to make it through the corporate censors in order to have any chance of reaching their target audience, leaving the end result homogenous and boring.
This process may sound familiar.
50:43 A little fun fact I should mention, SaberSpark:
The animators on “Robots” who worked at Big Idea Productions before weren’t the only animators who worked on “Robots”. In fact, there are some animators that worked at DNA Productions (behind the Jimmy Timmy Power Hour) who also joined Blue Sky Studios to work on “Robots”.
You wanna know what ruined them? They got Eyebrows.
It's the fact that they gave them eye colors
They got rid of Mr Nezzer.
It's all three!
the animation is too smooth and they now have no texture, larry does not have any cucumber marks or any others
The show just isn’t the same anymore.
This show was my childhood. I was pretty disappointed to see how drastically it had changed in recent years. It used to have so much more heart and personality. In its earlier days, it may not have looked especially stunning or had the biggest budget, but it definitely had some great writing, acting, and talent behind it. Best of all, it wasn't over the top with its Christian morals. The lessons were always approachable and never pretentious or forced which is kind of a rarity when it comes to religious children's media. Even now as someone who was raised Christian and later became agnostic, I still have an appreciation for the simplistic but effective way that the show introduced kids to complicated moral situations with an often overlooked sense of grace and humor.
I love how it wasn't super preachy
It was just the right enough of preachy.
@@CasperVonGhoul exactly
Yeah, from what i remember the reason it’s more bearable to non-Christian audiences is the moral was never presented as “God said no, that’s the biggest reason why you shouldn’t do it” it was “This has negative effects on the people around you, ps it also makes our skyman sad”
I didn't even know it was a christian show up until recently. Whenever someone told me about Moses and his exodus, I always thought "Hey that's from veggie tales!"
"In the future, entertainment will be randomly generated!"
-Larry the Cucumber
@@CantPayEpisodes i agree
He was right
weed eater
@@CantPayEpisodes I can't see your comment
Prophet of God.
Thank you for this. We watched these so much with the kids and the Songs are still stuck in our heads!
Man, I have never realized how BIG veggie tales was until I watched this video. I grew up watching veggie tales. (I grew up in a Christian family) I am touched by hearing Phil’s story. He had faith in God despite the conditions. After veggie tales “died”, he didn’t question God, but instead he saw his mistakes.
You should totally watch lord of the beans, ite lotr but with veggies and bean
I think at that time, Phil seeking to be the new Walt Disney, he made decisions without first consulting God, he did not realize that he began to idolize his company and money, in his mind he thought he was doing it for God, but his heart did it to want to be like Disney and being famous, that is why God allowed all those things to happen and lost his company, now that he has repented and confessed how he was influenced by the world, God has forgiven him and given him a new opportunity, and he recovered the program to get it right this time
@@yes3545 LMAO I made a bean Gimli out of actual beans in Sunday school 😂
@@Starling_stars badass
@@yes3545 Lol thank you. I had to throw it away when I moved :(
“The Veggie Tales Fandom” is such an intimidating sentence
We don't talk about the.... veggie tales fandom
*Hears a tuba in the distance*
I F
Y O U
L I K E
T O
T A L K
T O
T O M A T O E S
But we're all a part of it
I'm scared to google it, but my morbid curiosity is k i l l i n g me.
Edit:
It's mainly gay Archibald fanart.
The Barney Fandom: Pathetic
Crystal sf Goddammit.
As a Christian, myself, thank you for the genuine respect and care you treated the topic of people's religious beliefs. It's refreshing to see someone take time to seriously examine the merits, talent, and creativity the show had to offer instead of simply dismissing it because it's too Christian.
Yhea. ... Though, gotta love the irony in secularism became an opposition religion in its own right. People, like everything, will refuse that despite the truth of the matter.
This
Ye
31:02 it’s like the original bluey, yes the cartoon with the blue dog and how even adults would watch the show and they don’t have children
Original Bluey?
Saber: finally posts Veggietales video
All of Saber's fans all at once:
22:41 *Allow us to introduce ourselves*
Could you introduce that invisible profile pic tho
Weed eater
"We're neighbors! We moved in down the street! You'll find we're the most delightful bunch of fellows you'd ever want to meet!"
I’m Christian, and I’m pretty sure watching an episode of Bibleman would land me in hell for blasphemy.
Same. Well, that along with Jesus Christ Vampire Hunter. I don’t even believe in hell, but I’m sure I’d go regardless lmfao
@@carrot7911 with fucking what
@@h0lodm0966 bible man
@@carrot7911 same
?
Most channels: 10 minutes = eight ads.
Saberspark: 1 hour = 4 ads.
_i love _*_saberspark_*
There is a dark secret you should know about. There is a way to watch every channel, every video, no matter the runtime, without ads. It's called ad blocker.
@@Just4Fun-Zocker NOOOOOO YOU WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO GIVE AWAY THE SECRET!
I have 6 ads... I don't think it has any thing to do with saber
Der just4fun Zocker I mean I'd rather support the creators I watch, especially when 5 months of research and work went into it
I only got one ad.
I still have the VHS tapes, DVDs and an audio tape of Silly Songs with Larry. It was such a formative part of my childhood, & it speaks to his brilliance that I can still enjoy the old veggietales stuff as an atheist adult
"But he had the power of GOD and VEGETABLES on his side!!"
I died.... that was brilliant
My mom told me when we were younger and watched VeggieTales the first time she heard them say, “god made you special, and he loves you very much.” She fell in love with the show
I feel veggietales would’ve been so much better if it wasn’t Christian :/
@@randomnameidk429, have you see the reboots? or are you just fucking with me
@@randomnameidk429 nah that's kinda helped the show grow, you don't see to many actually good Christian shows nowadays, this one is a true diamond in the rough
My parents didn’t let me watch it because it was Christian
@@oliverkindaexists
Big sad
It was good show :(
It literally was the perfect show, you get morals and humor (some edgy aka Larry Kissing a Bearded lady) and it never felt like it was pushing it in front of your face. It gives you a neutral experience that appeals to literally everyone
reminds me of when Rugrats did the jewish episode on passover, didnt feel overly in your face and told a good fun story
ikr christian stuff that isn't shoved in your face
is so hard to find
He tried to teach the best parts of Christianity, treat everyone right and try to do good for others, that's one of the reasons it succeeded
@@kreeon3739 wish bush hartman was the same way and less, hate the gays
25:10 The simplistic-yet-expressive designs for all the characters are so brilliant from both an animation perspective and a marketing perspective. I once saw an interview with the creators of Phineas and Ferb where they said their design philosophy for the characters was to focus on one distinct shape any kid could draw as the baseline, because if a kid can't draw your character they won't feel connected to it and might feel bad about themselves, but making a character that's recognizable even in a three-year-old's crayon adaptation means that kid will draw your character over and over again. I can't even begin to count the number of times between the ages of 2 and 5 where I would draw a red circle and green oval on any sheet of paper, give them some big eyes and a smile, and imagine myself one day making my own VeggieTales show.
You can tell that Phil is an extremely good person, while he may have his flaws, he never did anything that he did in malice, and his whole motivation behind the show was to spread his own Christian beliefs in an incredibly respectful way.
Nice gorrilaz pic
I wholeheartedly agree with that, he had to sell Big Idea Productions, they were out of money from making Jonah, I remember being a member of the Super Fantastic VeggieTales Fan Club back in 2002-2003 maybe 4, they sent letters telling the club members they just didn't have money keep it going, they still honored the memberships and sent goodies including VHS tapes of the series, even though they were running out of tapes they could give away.
*Then it all went to ruin after the dichead nation came*
It’s kind of inspirational to me. I want to be an animator someday and tell stories like Phil wanted to, but I’ve always been doubtful about it. Phil had so much determination and faith that it kind of makes me a little confident too.
I cried deadass when you talked about bob apologizing I had no idea there were even reboots I’m gonna have to watch them and my boyfriend found me in the middle of watching it and got hooked mid video with no context or even any knowledge of what veggie tales was. Was well worth the wait. Magnum opus indeed my dude
Better yet, he got his redemption with The Veggie Tales Show which did come out rather recently.
I do gotta admit, I'm curious to see what 2019 Veggie Tales did with the original production team sounds like.
I used to be OBSESSED with Silly Songs With Larry, and still to this day I have "Oh where is my hairbrush?" Rattling in my bones
Same 🙃
Me friend and her siblings like singing the Sports Utility Vehicle sing
My favorite silly song with larry was pizza angles and cheeseburger
My sister and i keep singing Oh where is my hairbrush and the one song about cheeseburger😆
Oooooooooooooooooooooh! Everybody's got a water buffalo! Yours is fast but mine is slow. Where'd we get them? I don't know. But everybody's got a water buffalooooooooooooooooooo!
Over an hour-long documentary and worth watching to the end. Just encountered your channel when it started showing up in my feed today (technically yesterday), and I'm already a fan and have subscribed.
this is what my life has come to. Waiting for a video about veggie tales.
I've been waiting for 2-3 weeks so this wait shall be worth it.
This comment goes nicely with your pfp
Me toot
heh *weedeater*
it could be worse, you could be scrolling though the comments trying to figure out how veggietales is over an hour long video
I still sing "god is bigger than the boogey man" when I have panic attacks to calm myself down.
That makes my Christian heart very happy. I believe that's for a reason my friend. He must using that to put on your conciounce. 💖
@@gabetalks9275 Aw, thanks. I think so too.
@@itsthatonechickagaincallth7843 Then repent and come to Him before His return. He died and rose again for you because He loves you more than you could ever imagine. Live forever with Him my friend. 💖
*What Are You Gonna Do*
@Mike - _ - Litoris I thought Hitler did the Holocaust... Maybe I'm reading the history book wrong.
They straight up removed Christianity from veggie tales and that was literally the main reason why it exists
Islamic veggietales wheb
WHAT? That's like...removing Johnny Depp from Edward Scissorhands! Which actually happened in today's Super Bowl commercial. Timothee Chalamet played his son, Edgar Scissorhands. I was very sad when they removed Johnny Depp from this new Scissorhands content. February 7, 2021, 7:24pm
Why can’t it be secular?
@@nettieharris it was based on telling biblical tales I think
Veggie tales was based on bible stories, learning basic memory verses, and moral lessons for children (share, don't lie, be kind-things you get from other children or preschool shows) being secular removes half of the content that made it what it was, but if done right may work. But really, it was what is who are no longer practicing or left the church remember. Many remember it fondly from what i know. And even if we don't believe anymore or have different views from the church we grew up in, remember this show as a joy. Personally, I wouldn't want to take God or christianity out of this show as it always did it fairly well.
Granted, I have not seen it in years, so I may be misremembering it. But I do recall it being a happy part of Sunday school.
A couple times this week, I had moments when I felt like everything in crumbling around me and all endeavors were hopeless, but I remembered the video and Phil's story of, even when having a kid on the way, things got better and, at the very least, he was able to provide for his family in the end. Thinking of that gave me hope that, as long as you've got a fantastic lawyer, it'll be okay.