Union Pacific Power sitting Idle, engines in the desert. (LONG VERSION)
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- Опубліковано 22 лют 2016
- I created this video with enthusiasm and happiness. The shorter, EDITED version bypasses the trip to and the other stops we made going to the siding where the engines are stored.
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These engines are SD70M's and UP is storing them until there is upturn in traffic patterns; the reason they're stored in the desert is because it doesn't rain very much and they won't rust and corrode.
there are 300 locomotives end-to-end, and a Union Pacific spokesman says they are waiting for Supply to meet demand, and then they will be called to action once more....
8-5-17 they are still there as of now. Noticed them last year on my way to New Mexico. I only saw them from I - 10 as I passed by at 80mph. Some seem to have more graffiti on them. I hope they don't rot out there and go to waste. I'm 43 and have been a rail fan all my life.
It's silly that the security is all over anyone with a camera stopping to take a photo or video, but we noticed the increase of graffiti as well. Thanks for watching!
jewllake iiii
the reason they are there that we rarely get humid. humidity+ metal+time=rust
great find, its rare to get so close enough to touch locomotives since they usually have people around them, whenever i do see a parked loco im always hesitant to go up to it in case anyone is watching
Hello Solowarrior1221, We were very fortunate to have gotten up close and personal to get some of the footage we did. Being out there alone had h a very real creepy vibe, yet I wanted to stay longer.....go figure!
Thank you for watching!
I counted over 200 using Google Maps. These cost 1.5 to 2.5 million dollars each. Makes me sick.
Hello Paul,
Since this was uploaded back in February, there have been more added. This version the music was a bit loud, I have since toned down the volume and it can be found higher in the list.
Thanks for watching.
We spoke with a Union Pacific worker that was out there on one of our trips, he said basically these along with several hundred others are being idled all over the west. Mainly because a reduction in the freight, mostly coal hauling.
Evidently all older D/C Units, and not as efficient as the new A/C Units.
Hi D Wootten, thanks for watching.
Marion.
I saw these from I-10 while traveling from Phoenix to Bisbee. Couldn't believe so many locomotives in a single line. Any idea how many?
+Tom Giambra
Hello Tom,
We were out there just yesterday and Union Pacific was doing some work, long story short I asked one of the supervisors what the reason was. He stated that because of a slow down in freight these engines are being stored till they are needed again. Currently there are around 250 there now, and that number will go up to 380. I Heard this number quoted from an episode of Modern Marvels, but each unit is roughly 5 million. This was back in the early 2000's, so I'm sure they are more now. 380 X 5million= 1.9billion dollars. That is of course if the numbers are correct. He also said there are two more places like this one that are holding about the same number each. Unbelievable.
Thanks for watching.
Those engines still look to be in very good condition; the paint still shines there's little rust, nothing vandalized and even the rubber air hoses aren't cracked or split yet. What a waste of money!
Have you seen "the engines"? The "locomotives" look good though. :-)
Janet Elizabeth wow
I saw a documentary on television a few months ago, where UP has a number of locomotives stored on a 4.3 mile track in the middle of the Arizona desert. These are waiting for more business, and then they will be used again. Most looked like they were hardly used. I have seen other railroads do the same. BNSF etc, but elsewhere in the country. This looks like the one's in Arizona.
Arizona is a good place for storage due mainly to the extremely low humidity.
I work for the chicago service unit for UP and i honestly have to say what of waste of some decent power
Hello Armageddon1981,
Thanks for watching and commenting, we have not been out there for a while, from what we are hearing UP has been removing some of the units. What is happening to them I don't know.
Marion.
Marion Mitchell they're selling them to class 2 and 3 railroads and some they're just using for switching.
Thank you for the information. At least they are being used and not scraped.
Marion.
Marion Mitchell no problem but if they did scrap any units it's probably because it was beyond the scope of repair.
thank you for the video,,was wondering about this since i had seen it from google earth,,thank you again i will be out that way soon as i own property very near there ,,really want to see this!!
Hello Terry,
That is some very beautiful country out there, and we are glad that you and others have enjoyed the footage.
Thank you for watching, and some of the other videos may show the engines from a birds view for a different perspective.
Could you please tell me which road did you take that let you get up close to the train (i.e. no fence)? From Google map, I noticed there are several branch roads off Emprita that lead to the rails, are they all accessible to public? Thanks for the video, it's very informing.
Hello Marty,
Once you exit Emprita and you come to the stop sign, turn left and go over the cattle guard. Take that road, I don't know exactly, approx. a quarter mile. On the right you will see where other vehicles have driven off the main traveled section. Follow that trail west, and you will come to a concrete pond, and rusted tank. I ended up walking the rest of the way, because I did not want to scrap what paint there is on the truck off.
If you continue onward south, from the stop sign, you will come to the Emprita Ranch entrance. You can follow the fence line west and it will lead you to a small area.
Be warned, we were very lucky and fortunate to have gotten the footage we did. Since then there are a LOT of security. As long as you do not cross the fence near the track, I believe you should be ok.
Good luck and post a link on what you video!!
Thank you for watching.
Marion.
Thank you very much for the information!
No problem, hope it works out and like I mentioned, don't forget to share your experience!!
Marion.
Were you allowed in or is there a way around the fencing?
Hello Alex,
We happened to be at the right place and at the right time, I walked approx. 3/4 of a mile, and at that time the fencing was pretty much non existent. We went back out about two months later, and WOW they ramped up not only the fencing, but the roving patrols as well.
We encountered a security guard, that took his job very seriously, and listened politely to how they have installed cameras and motion detectors. We said thank you and went on our way. This was in March of '17. My thoughts on the situation, for all the expense of storing these, wouldn't it be cheaper to keep them running or sell them.
Thank you for watching.
Marion.
I live in Tucson and I am just wondering how long have they been sitting there outside of Tucson?
+Ric Bonillas Jr
Hi Ric,
We were lucky to converse with a Union Pacific employee and he said this started back in late 2015, I didn't think to ask the month, but he did say that there are two more areas like this in the western united states, and BNSF is also doing similar things as well. It is concerning why is there not a continued need for these machines to be used......
Thank you for watching!!
Damnnnn.... these C40-8 locos don't really happy :(... Hopefully we ship more freight by rail and UP will have to start using these old motive power units instead of GEVOs and SD70Ms and crappy trucks....
gevos are good for the environment
Should have sent the short version
Hi, I liked the music, it was kinda boring just riding to get where the engines were. Anyway, I recently was at the Tucson RR Museum at the old SP RR Station in downtown. A volunteer there retired from UP, they are stored in AZ just like aircraft, its dry and relatively warm till traffic picks up. PS everyone, a word to the wise, UP is not a very friendly RR, I believe they prosecute, and gee I wonder why when people go and steel stuff off locomotives.
Hey Patrick,
The intro is a bit lengthy, but we are glad you stayed and enjoyed the video. The editing has progressed, hopefully, since this video. Thank you for watching and commenting.
i got use for all them tranis
Cuase if not hell ill start my own company
Are we there yet🤓
Sorry, I have since put up an edited version titled "Union Pacific Power in the Desert-Condensed Edit." Looking back this could have been made into two videos. Thank you for watching.
Thanks for an informative video. The first few locomotives are GE C40_8Cs. Behind them what looks like the wide or safety cab version. Then a long line of GM EMD SD 60Me. From what I have been able to find out, the C40_C will all be sold to other railroads or leasing companies, some C40 wide cabs may be sold, the SD 60Ms are earmarked to be rebuilt with new engines and cooling systems.
Hello Attlia T Bun,
The information is great, as you can tell I had no idea what make or version any were, and hopefully these will find their way to a new life on another rail road. Thank you for watching!
I wonder why the up stores these engines? Seems like they’d be better off selling them or scrapping them.
Hey B bo,
About a year ago, we had the opportunity to speak with a Union Pacific track maintenance worker, he seemed to be knowledgable, he said then these engines were not needed, because of the reduction in coal hauling.
Thank you for watcing.
Perhaps the up sells these things south if the border in South America or Mexico.
Hello B bo,
We have heard several things that are or will be done with these. Thank you for watching.
Marion Mitchell Ironically perhaps about 20 years ago when I worked on Wall Street I worked on a project to issue stock for bnsf so they could raise a couple hundred million dollars to buy new locomotives.
does anybody have a total number them
Hello bob b,
I believe the total was or near 282...... I might be wrong.
Thank you for watching!!
It just goes to show how much money gets wasted in the States when they could of sold all those locomotives and wagons to other country's where they would do the most good instead leaving them out in desert to simply rust away.
Hello Ken,
Thanks for watching. All but six or seven of these have been removed, either sold, or back in use.
Thanks for watching and commenting.
Marion.
Yeah I know why there sitting there they’re up for scrap or sell
Are the LOCOMOTIVES there too???????? . . . . with the ENGINES inside of them??
Aaron Balleck - That was what I saw, but I also read, "engines in the desert" (above) and was hoping you weren't calling the 200-ton locomotives "engines". You'd be surprised how many people don't call them what they are. (Good 'For Instances' by Synder Comacho and B Bo - BELOW) Thanks for clarifying
Sorry, I thought just maybe we could have an intelligent discussion in railroader terms. I won't be bothering to come back here.
Be as intelligent as you want. Seems like you are ready to educate us underlings.
Up contacted at a high level??
Pacific left them therer
They're 400 engines
Hello Joshua,
When we discovered them, there were around 250, they have added a massive amount of others since then.
Thank you for watching!
Marion.
Would it be stealing if
I
Uionio
Should have gone in thw engine lol
Are these Locomotives still there?
Hello Tower 26,
Sorry for the delay in response, yes they are still there, and I would not be surprised if more have not been added.
Thanks for watching!!
These engines are going back onto the mainline this year.
Thank you, I saw a UP sd60m today in Houston so I believe you!
Yes they are, in fact I believe they may have added more, but have not gotten an up close and personal look at them in a while. I will say this for anyone going out there now, security is very tight and they love to make their presence known. I understand fully the need for security, but there are two individuals that take their job performance over the top. This is my opinion, but if Union Pacific would have an open house sort of thing, invite railfans and the public, let people take pictures, videos it would prove to be a public relations bonanza! There are of course limitations, the details would have to be worked out, but still I think it would be a HUGE win!
Nevada Rail Productions oohhh
How did you get past the white private security trucks that UP hired?
We were out there early on before a lot of attention was drawn. I think in the long run we were extremely lucky not to have been seen or caught. I think Union Pacific would have a public relation bonanza if they held an open house and invited the public out, even one day a month to see these. But what do I know????
Looks like either they are renovating a repair shop or UP is hiding assets for some reason
Wow 18:30 of dirt road and bullshit followed by narration that you can't hear because the music is too loud. Other then that, good vid.
What a waste! All that human effort sitting idle. Our rail system must be in awful shape or our economy must be in awful shape. Are we shut down as a country or what? These things cost millions of dollars each to build!.
About $2.5 million depending. The rail business is cyclical...power is stored and pulled as needed. The freight rail business in America is doing well and is a good investment...just ask Warren Buffet!
For more views of economic decline vote Democratic
Trump will have these running again soon
it will be great your gonna love it
Joshua Holloway This just the tip of the iceberg!!! UP is in shambles at the moment and this is only the beginning!! The economy is shot !! Trump is not going to save this country it is a done deal
Start from 20 minutes - the first half of this video is a waste of time. Don't go beyond 34 minutes - so only 14 minutes in thr middle. Learn to edit!
Boring or what !