There is a connection to be made between these bones and the skeleton on the ice tracks in Jak X...maybe I'll revisit that idea in future episodes 🤔 Have any theories about Misty Island? Comment your own theories below!
@@kidprime6863 it was a reference to the volcanic activity beneath the earth, and how their skeletons are part of the landscape created by it - as if their slumber is intrinsically linked with the fires of creation :)
The way the precursors seemed to contain dark eco in silos (presumably never meant to be opened) reminds me of the way we store nuclear waste. I wonder if dark eco is actually the byproduct of something they did. It also seems to have mutating characteristics, daxter turned into an animal when he fell in, which if I was really stretching it could be compared to effects of exposure to radioactive substances.
Great theory! It's like it's the essence of the darkness that the universe was before the big bang, so by creating light or life, it gets expelled and the result is dark eco 👀
If you look at the island from above, it is a crescent shaped, with the Zoomer area forming a large watery crater. It’s likely a caldera, an erupted volcano that flooded with seawater. That also lends credence to your volcanic ash mist theory. Great video! Love this content 👍
Surprised how genuinely little reaching there is in these videos, it's all so logical. It astounds me how much genuine detail there is in so much of this, and that Naughty Dog simply... never did much with it in the end.
I'm delighted with the love it's gotten so far, but if I could share it farther with people who love Jak and Daxter as much as we do I'd be even happier 😂 It really is a shame, the universe has potential the likes of which were ridiculously rare during the PS2 generation, and if they weren't rushed then it could have reached a whole new depth and level of awesomeness - hopefully someday a remake/reboot will flesh out the universe to the depth we'd love to experience 😁
I love your videos man. You manage to make me think of how much bigger the world of Jak definitely is. I never actually thought of Naval battles happening despite the ship, and over the years my eyes never really noticed the bones(probably because when I first played the game I was a young kid). A lore discord would be amazing if you ever are interested in creating one. I know the community isn't the biggest in the world but it would be fun to have some people to talk lore theories with.
That's a fantastic idea Dee :O I think I'll definitely get onto that, a lore discord would be awesome! Even if there was only like 5 people in it I'd be happy to just chill and nerd out over J&D lore with like minded people 😁
The Precursor Legacy had such an uncanny ability to feel so much more spacious and deep (in scale) than it really was. Looking out and seeing a distant landmark that you recognized from an earlier or later region was mind blowing to young me. It really felt like you were part of a larger and open world, and that even if you didn’t get to explore it in game, it was always out there ready to be found. As fun as Jak 2 and 3 were, I really wish we had gotten more games set in the Precursor Legacy era, rather than the future.
You said it! To go from PS1 graphics and scale to those kinds of distant views was mind blowing back then 😁 A continuation of TPL's style would have been a dream come true - hopefully some day OpenGOAL mods will let us have exactly that!
If only they hadn't listened to what opinions the kids had to say in the early 2000's we probably would have still had a more in line story and game following jak and daxters plot. But emo, edgyness and sex took over or started to take over many of America in those times.
Thank you! 😁 Mysteries like the skeletal leviathans have always fascinated me seeing as they are never even mentioned or paid attention too, let alone explained in-game! Had to put my own theories out there as I've never seen anyone do the same :) Thanks for watching 😁
Reminds me of the mysterious "hyper epics" of spore. For those who are unaware, there are five tiers of creatures in spore: baby, regular, alpha, rouge and epic. However, there are bones of creatures *much* larger than even epics.
I'm sure Naughty Dog never intended for anyone to go so deep into the lore but I'm glad they built the world in such A way that I could! Thanks so much for watching and subscribing, I'll be working on the Precursor Basin episode soon 😁
@@derrinmaloney1039 Yeah no problem. Yeah Jak was pretty blunt with their story. But you never know, maybe they can use this if a remake is ever possible. And awesome look forward to it!
It's great to see your theories again, and about the bones of Misty Island. And the statement of the first Jak and Daxter got me thinking. If THIS was just a single continent, are there more out there?
Great question, I've often wondered at that myself - maybe there are hidden warp gates that lead to other continents? And if there are, maybe the warp gates on other continents haven't been turned on, or even turned off for some reason 👀
@@derrinmaloney1039 OMG I just thought of an alternative way how to continue the Jak and Daxter story from the Precursor Legacy!! What if instead of a time gate that released the Metal Heads, it was one of the larger, more powerful precursor gates that would transport anything and anyone to another continent beyond the one we know, one that could be intertwined with the Precursor Legacy?
@@adawnicusautocon I would love that so much! Hell I'd even be happy if they took another crack the the brink from The Lost Frontier, portray it as wild continents and floating islands loaded with Precursor ruins and artifacts! And have the people only begin their expeditions into it rather than live in it. Maybe have the brink as a dlc after exploring the other land based places first!
That was a beautiful closing line. This video really made me consider a few lore details, too. As far as the mists on Misty Island go, I would more guess it's steam caused by the vaporisation of sea water, or else that the Dark Eco results in some sort of drop in temperature (we incidentally see the largest quantities of it in cold places), which would be my guess. The heat from the Lava Tube near the Citadel, and from the geological activity near Misty Island might diffuse in part through the Dark Eco in the silos, keeping the area somewhat stable (note also that Dark Eco is transported through the Lava Tube without apparently becoming volatile or explosive, and it shows upon the surface on Misty Island and in the Spider Caves mostly, both places where it's fairly cold despite the otherwise hot. I would hesitate to guess the mist to be volcanic gas, given the heavy emphasis on environmental storytelling, and how Jak seems otherwise fine in the area, rather than choking or gasping for breath. And the mother flut-flut - I had always assumed she died in Lurker captivity (or that she was a cut plot thread accidentally left in), but I do like the idea of Maia's dark sorcery transforming her into some sort of monster. That might well have been one of the things cut from the game. It would've been nice to have a few more bosses than the Dark Flower, Klaww, and then Gol and Maia themselves, though I do still like the game as we got it. Dark Roc (maybe called "Rawwk" to pattern with "Klaaw") might've made an interesting zoomer boss, now that I think on it.
WONDERFUL VIDEO! saw it posted on Ecoposting, gonna watch the whole series. KEEP IT UP! Been waiting a lifetime to hear some in depth analysis like this ne taken to the Jak lore. Its such a fascinating world filled eith life and mistery
Thank you so much Dark! I'm always delighted to see people enjoying the series, I'm glad I could hit that niche - the mysteries in the game have always fascinated me for years so I love seeing like minded people enjoying my videos 😁
@@derrinmaloney1039 Oh you are so very welcome 😊 Wow really!? You haven't posted for a while so that's a pleasant surprise! I really look forward to watching it.
I'm speechless with these videos. Everything makes so much sense, the lore you capture on these little unnoticed details are sooooo deep man. I'm kinda sad now by thinking the game could've went in a totally different way, I love the mistic aspect of TPL. I always asked myself why the map had an undiscovered large part. It shows only the zones of the first game. That always gave me the impression of Naughty Dog planning to go further with future games on that continent. I'm hooked. Gotta watch all these. Thank you!!
Thanks so much for watching! I'm delighted you appreciate it in such depth, that kind of feedback always puts a spring in my step 😁 My dream series would have been if they continued to other lands in the TPL world, if only 😭 The next episode won't be long! It'll be on Precursor Basin and I'm doing a few things differently for it, stay tuned 😁
I'm a simple man. I see a Derrin Maloney video, I click. Do you believe it's possible that Misty Island became the Strip Mine during the 300 years between Jak 1 and 2? Or... perhaps the Strip Mine is where the southern end of the peninsula disappeared to, broken off from the main land due to tectonic activity, meaning the other two islands next to it are Misty Island and Geyser Rock. Theories like this are why I hope you'll continue on to Jak II after 1. I also hope you'll do more short stories within the Jak universe X3 As for the skeletons, maybe they're Metal Heads! ...probably not. They lack the recess necessary for skull gems. We now begin our journey north, through the treacherous Fire Canyon.
You've been supporting this project from the start, I really appreciate that Nico 😁 That's totally possible if you ask me, fantastic theory! I haven't put much thought into long term plans but I was thinking a about doing theory videos on the other games for sure - maybe not in the same style, but still have the beginnings of a few ideas, and more stories too :) Onward through the burning earth and beyond! 💪
just like at my previous house i had been in there were Giant spiders a plate long hiding in the attic one even possibly died at the top of one of our lights.
Your comments always mean a lot dude, thank you so much! 😁❤ Back at you, I'm super proud of the content we're all making together, I'm so happy I asked to join in and get to know you all 😌 I've beaten Subnautica, I loved every second of it! It was actually big inspiration for this episode in terms of the volcanoes and the abyssal sea 😁
There is a connection to be made between these bones and the skeleton on the ice tracks in Jak X...maybe I'll revisit that idea in future episodes 🤔
Have any theories about Misty Island? Comment your own theories below!
In my opinion Misty Island and Metal Heads Nest are the same location
"What do dead dragons dream?"
I love that quote and this was a great analysis. Kudos 👍
Much appreciated ❤
Newest episode is in the oven as we speak!
@@derrinmaloney1039 And what did you mean that "they dream of fire"? Is it a metaphor for the fires of battle or something?
@@kidprime6863 it was a reference to the volcanic activity beneath the earth, and how their skeletons are part of the landscape created by it - as if their slumber is intrinsically linked with the fires of creation :)
@@derrinmaloney1039Oh. I thought it was because they fought other creatures of the deep like that octopus that pulls you under in Jak 3.
The way the precursors seemed to contain dark eco in silos (presumably never meant to be opened) reminds me of the way we store nuclear waste. I wonder if dark eco is actually the byproduct of something they did. It also seems to have mutating characteristics, daxter turned into an animal when he fell in, which if I was really stretching it could be compared to effects of exposure to radioactive substances.
Great theory! It's like it's the essence of the darkness that the universe was before the big bang, so by creating light or life, it gets expelled and the result is dark eco 👀
If you look at the island from above, it is a crescent shaped, with the Zoomer area forming a large watery crater. It’s likely a caldera, an erupted volcano that flooded with seawater. That also lends credence to your volcanic ash mist theory.
Great video! Love this content 👍
Surprised how genuinely little reaching there is in these videos, it's all so logical.
It astounds me how much genuine detail there is in so much of this, and that Naughty Dog simply... never did much with it in the end.
I'm delighted with the love it's gotten so far, but if I could share it farther with people who love Jak and Daxter as much as we do I'd be even happier 😂
It really is a shame, the universe has potential the likes of which were ridiculously rare during the PS2 generation, and if they weren't rushed then it could have reached a whole new depth and level of awesomeness - hopefully someday a remake/reboot will flesh out the universe to the depth we'd love to experience 😁
For all these years as I play this game I've never once wondered what animal those skeleton belong to
I've been playing it since I was young, I guess we all didn't put much thought into these things until we took the time to look around!
@@derrinmaloney1039 yeah
really nice video
I always asked myself what were exactly those gigantic creatures on Misty Island
I love your videos man. You manage to make me think of how much bigger the world of Jak definitely is. I never actually thought of Naval battles happening despite the ship, and over the years my eyes never really noticed the bones(probably because when I first played the game I was a young kid). A lore discord would be amazing if you ever are interested in creating one. I know the community isn't the biggest in the world but it would be fun to have some people to talk lore theories with.
That's a fantastic idea Dee :O I think I'll definitely get onto that, a lore discord would be awesome! Even if there was only like 5 people in it I'd be happy to just chill and nerd out over J&D lore with like minded people 😁
Thank you Derrin, this is highly in depth analysis.
The Precursor Legacy had such an uncanny ability to feel so much more spacious and deep (in scale) than it really was.
Looking out and seeing a distant landmark that you recognized from an earlier or later region was mind blowing to young me. It really felt like you were part of a larger and open world, and that even if you didn’t get to explore it in game, it was always out there ready to be found.
As fun as Jak 2 and 3 were, I really wish we had gotten more games set in the Precursor Legacy era, rather than the future.
You said it! To go from PS1 graphics and scale to those kinds of distant views was mind blowing back then 😁
A continuation of TPL's style would have been a dream come true - hopefully some day OpenGOAL mods will let us have exactly that!
If only they hadn't listened to what opinions the kids had to say in the early 2000's we probably would have still had a more in line story and game following jak and daxters plot. But emo, edgyness and sex took over or started to take over many of America in those times.
This is a terrific theory! I always wondered about the skeletal leviathans when ever it comes to games like Jak and Daxter.
Thank you! 😁
Mysteries like the skeletal leviathans have always fascinated me seeing as they are never even mentioned or paid attention too, let alone explained in-game! Had to put my own theories out there as I've never seen anyone do the same :)
Thanks for watching 😁
Like I said, Misty Island could have been one of their breeding grounds.
brilliant analysis as always, really interesting and makes the world more immersive. also just wanna say the shots and camera angles look great.
Thanks so much Ross, hopefully someday we'll get a new game with all kinds of lore and immersive visuals, but officially 😁
Thanks for the support :)
Reminds me of the mysterious "hyper epics" of spore. For those who are unaware, there are five tiers of creatures in spore: baby, regular, alpha, rouge and epic. However, there are bones of creatures *much* larger than even epics.
Never got around to playing Spore! It looks awesome though, have it on the to-play list for someday 😁
My friend you have added more details to this place than the franchise did itself. Huge Jak fan and awesome lore vid. Subscribed!
I'm sure Naughty Dog never intended for anyone to go so deep into the lore but I'm glad they built the world in such A way that I could!
Thanks so much for watching and subscribing, I'll be working on the Precursor Basin episode soon 😁
@@derrinmaloney1039 Yeah no problem. Yeah Jak was pretty blunt with their story. But you never know, maybe they can use this if a remake is ever possible. And awesome look forward to it!
Shit worse than Lurker Sharks? F.M.E.L.L.
The simple shot at 2:51 gives me anxiety.
With open goals you could bring these theories to life
I’d do it myself but I’m not tech savvy
I wouldn't have the know-how at all, but if someone else did then I'd love to even bring snippets of my theories to life 😁
It's great to see your theories again, and about the bones of Misty Island. And the statement of the first Jak and Daxter got me thinking. If THIS was just a single continent, are there more out there?
Great question, I've often wondered at that myself - maybe there are hidden warp gates that lead to other continents? And if there are, maybe the warp gates on other continents haven't been turned on, or even turned off for some reason 👀
@@derrinmaloney1039 Boy that blows my mind 🤯🤯
@@derrinmaloney1039 OMG I just thought of an alternative way how to continue the Jak and Daxter story from the Precursor Legacy!! What if instead of a time gate that released the Metal Heads, it was one of the larger, more powerful precursor gates that would transport anything and anyone to another continent beyond the one we know, one that could be intertwined with the Precursor Legacy?
@@adawnicusautocon I would love that so much! Hell I'd even be happy if they took another crack the the brink from The Lost Frontier, portray it as wild continents and floating islands loaded with Precursor ruins and artifacts!
And have the people only begin their expeditions into it rather than live in it.
Maybe have the brink as a dlc after exploring the other land based places first!
@@derrinmaloney1039 GOD that would be amazing!!😆😁😆😁
That was a beautiful closing line.
This video really made me consider a few lore details, too.
As far as the mists on Misty Island go, I would more guess it's steam caused by the vaporisation of sea water, or else that the Dark Eco results in some sort of drop in temperature (we incidentally see the largest quantities of it in cold places), which would be my guess. The heat from the Lava Tube near the Citadel, and from the geological activity near Misty Island might diffuse in part through the Dark Eco in the silos, keeping the area somewhat stable (note also that Dark Eco is transported through the Lava Tube without apparently becoming volatile or explosive, and it shows upon the surface on Misty Island and in the Spider Caves mostly, both places where it's fairly cold despite the otherwise hot. I would hesitate to guess the mist to be volcanic gas, given the heavy emphasis on environmental storytelling, and how Jak seems otherwise fine in the area, rather than choking or gasping for breath.
And the mother flut-flut - I had always assumed she died in Lurker captivity (or that she was a cut plot thread accidentally left in), but I do like the idea of Maia's dark sorcery transforming her into some sort of monster. That might well have been one of the things cut from the game. It would've been nice to have a few more bosses than the Dark Flower, Klaww, and then Gol and Maia themselves, though I do still like the game as we got it. Dark Roc (maybe called "Rawwk" to pattern with "Klaaw") might've made an interesting zoomer boss, now that I think on it.
I just love these videos
Thank you so much Golden Torn! 😁
Have the visuals and audio done for the Fire Canyon episode coming up next, won't be too long coming ^^
WONDERFUL VIDEO! saw it posted on Ecoposting, gonna watch the whole series. KEEP IT UP! Been waiting a lifetime to hear some in depth analysis like this ne taken to the Jak lore. Its such a fascinating world filled eith life and mistery
Thank you so much Dark! I'm always delighted to see people enjoying the series, I'm glad I could hit that niche - the mysteries in the game have always fascinated me for years so I love seeing like minded people enjoying my videos 😁
You have such a calming voice and I really do love the lore theory videos you've done. I hope you make another soon.
That means a lot, thank you so much
@@derrinmaloney1039 Oh you are so very welcome 😊
Wow really!? You haven't posted for a while so that's a pleasant surprise!
I really look forward to watching it.
I'm speechless with these videos. Everything makes so much sense, the lore you capture on these little unnoticed details are sooooo deep man. I'm kinda sad now by thinking the game could've went in a totally different way, I love the mistic aspect of TPL. I always asked myself why the map had an undiscovered large part. It shows only the zones of the first game. That always gave me the impression of Naughty Dog planning to go further with future games on that continent. I'm hooked. Gotta watch all these. Thank you!!
Thanks so much for watching! I'm delighted you appreciate it in such depth, that kind of feedback always puts a spring in my step 😁
My dream series would have been if they continued to other lands in the TPL world, if only 😭
The next episode won't be long! It'll be on Precursor Basin and I'm doing a few things differently for it, stay tuned 😁
@@derrinmaloney1039 cant wait for it!!
I'm a simple man.
I see a Derrin Maloney video,
I click.
Do you believe it's possible that Misty Island became the Strip Mine during the 300 years between Jak 1 and 2? Or... perhaps the Strip Mine is where the southern end of the peninsula disappeared to, broken off from the main land due to tectonic activity, meaning the other two islands next to it are Misty Island and Geyser Rock. Theories like this are why I hope you'll continue on to Jak II after 1. I also hope you'll do more short stories within the Jak universe X3
As for the skeletons, maybe they're Metal Heads!
...probably not. They lack the recess necessary for skull gems.
We now begin our journey north, through the treacherous Fire Canyon.
You've been supporting this project from the start, I really appreciate that Nico 😁
That's totally possible if you ask me, fantastic theory! I haven't put much thought into long term plans but I was thinking a about doing theory videos on the other games for sure - maybe not in the same style, but still have the beginnings of a few ideas, and more stories too :)
Onward through the burning earth and beyond! 💪
Personally think geyser rock became the pumping station in Jak 2
You are incredibly talented
Thank you so much Pierre, much appreciated :D
I have another theory about Misty Island: What if the island used to be a breeding ground for these gargantuan marine reptiles?
It very well could be! Maybe there are fossilised eggs under the island too 💀
Great theory!
@@derrinmaloney1039 Thank you
@@derrinmaloney1039 I mean why else would they be there? They got to have a safe place to lay their eggs
just like at my previous house i had been in there were Giant spiders a plate long hiding in the attic one even possibly died at the top of one of our lights.
I hope you do a video on the Dark Makers
Someday I definitely will when the time comes to cover Jak 3, I love them as villains so I'll have plenty to say about them!
@@derrinmaloney1039 I like them and the Hora-Quan aka Metal Heads
This man and his awesome vids
Your comments always mean a lot dude, thank you so much! 😁❤
Back at you, I'm super proud of the content we're all making together, I'm so happy I asked to join in and get to know you all 😌
I've beaten Subnautica, I loved every second of it! It was actually big inspiration for this episode in terms of the volcanoes and the abyssal sea 😁
Your channel will be great research material for my fan novelization
Oooooooo tell me more! :O
@@derrinmaloney1039 Do you have Facebook?
@@DivinusPrime I do indeed!
@@derrinmaloney1039 You can find me there, with the same profile name. You’ll recognize my profile picture
@@DivinusPrime I can't find you, hit me up instead please 👌
Jak 2 could have been 10x cooler if it wasn't for GTA. 😢
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