I gotta say, I love how your strategy to bleed them out was exactly what the original high command wanted before Hitler basically sacked all of them for yesmen. Halder essentially wanted to smash the Russian army in decisive battles and then capture the rest of the territory while Hitler decided to split up his already weak forces and attack in several general fronts.
A youtuber said (in a very simplified way) that the main difference between the german army and soviet army it's that the soviet generals where more successful in keeping their leader out of the military plans.
TIK history talks about this I believe, where Moustache man wanted to rush the Caucaus region for its oil reserves, while Halder wanted Moscow first thinking they'd collapse like France
@@emib6599 If you look at the battle of France, and compare that to the later stages of Barbarossa, for example the Battle of Stalingrad, you will notice a clear change in doctrine. The OKW was extremely mobile at the start, allowing for officers to push an advantage - without being ordered to do so - without negative consequences if that unauthorized attack was successful. Hitler didn't like it as he was a control freak, even though most of the successes in France were due to that fluid command structure, and wanted it changed: back to the rigid shit show that France showed. Now insert the surprised Pikachu face when that didn't go to plan... :D
Aye you're right. Paulus was not a FM at the time of the mod starting. He was promoted long after his encirclement as a misguided attempt to bolster his resolve because "no German Field Marshal has ever surrendered on the battlefield". Obviously his resolve wasn't really failing, just that his situation was truly hopeless by that point and he was aware of reality. Kind of got done dirty in the base game making him a level 1 General with "cautious" as a trait as if the devs agree with moustache man (west) that Paulus was a worthless coward.
I also believe Paulus told them what he needed for a breakout and it was pretty much out of the realm of possibility. He also asked if he should break out multiple times but was never given an order by Hitler or Manstein. They would have had to break out an unrealistic distance because Manstein was nowhere near close enough to help. It pretty much just made him the scapegoat and expected them all to die or commit suicide because of the incompetence at that point.
100% agreed. Paulus as a level 1 general is laughable. The man had a hand in Operation Barbarossa, he led the 6th army to a decisive victory at second Kharkov, and was literally a week away from finishing off Chuikov, despite his men being poorly supplied since August, because of the German logistics bottleneck in the south. Which was also the reason the airlift failed, Goering knew the planes could do it, the problem was that logistics bottleneck meant they sometimes had to fly half empty or delivered propaganda leaflets, medals and…herbs instead of ammo, food and petrol.
@@mitchotoole9876 Probably just to fight to the last man. They couldn't expect much in Soviet captivity (given what Germany did to soviet PoWs), and every day he fought, he'd tie up several red armies and inflict casualties on them. Hitler probably had opinions for someone who didn't give everything for the Volk (in Nazi ideology, a person's life means nothing, only the people matters). "Cautious" is not an insult though. They likely underestimated the Soviets, and didn't want a brave commander throwing a certain victory away. That was a mistake - he was too slow to secure the city. But that's a failure of command to put the right person in charge. Same applied to the allies, e.g. when to use Patton and when to use Bradley.
I think this video demonstrates the reason why reserves are used. Sure, you don't have the same punching power on the front lines - but having units fresh and unengaged ready to respond to the enemy's actions is what wins campaigns.
My respect to mod creator, He did greate job, but he made mistake huge on mape. He copy map from nowdays, but in 1942 there was no Volga-Don channel and reservoir on Don river
@@jaredjosephsongheng372 my bad that in Ukraine it is the opposite that is happening. LOL winning imaginary battles in video games. LOL. No other army fell like the german army in bagration, not even the soviets in Kiev. go figure it out.
I think artillery should be changed in these zoomed in maps. I'm pretty sure the range of the artillery could reach much farther than just one tile here.
Most ww2 artillery had ranges below 20km. The sacle here is still a few thousand kilometers across the map. Maybe allow heavy siege artillery to fire into adjacent tiles, but you would beed to use the airforce mechanic for that.
@@LeroxYT The flags appear to be in the mods directory, specifically SteamLibrary\steamapps\workshop\content\394360\2680412886\gfx\flags and the files appear to be editable with gimp, and I think if you change them they should be changed in game.
fun fact.: Per William Shrier's The Rise and Fall of The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich, Stalingrad, shortly befor the battle was actually unoccupied and the Germans had a chance to take it without a fight but Hitler waffled on what he wanted the 6th Army to do and when he made up his mind the area was reinforced. Just funny to think one of the biggest battles of the biggest war maybe wouldn't have happened.
Man I really hope that developers introduce some sort of siege mechanic for taking large victory points. Still remember when you could capture Paris with 6 combat width paratroopers.
Still though if Stalingrad did fall the Soviets would have lost 70% of their oil and would have to rely on Mass Infantry charges. The Germans would probably not be able to get any oil though still due to The Soviets blowing up the oil fields. But this may make the War into an Allied Victory with the use of maybe the Nuclear Bomb. (All of Germany and some of Poland is democratic) instead of a Joint Allied Soviet Victory (Yalta Conference). The Cold war would not necessarily occur until much later (due to the Soviets not having any Oil until much later)
Fun fact about the "Amnesty for Red Deserters" focus. The Nazis broadcasted promises of amnesty for any who surrendered over the city's loudspeaker system. I don't think they actually honored their promises though.
In the German hoi4 version the bad guy is a shadowed blob. They probably thought seeing this magnificent beard could turn us Germans into racist lunatics again
I think Germany has some laws in place about portraying the Nazis without context/criticism, right? If so, HoI doesn't exactly care a lot about showing the critical side of the ideologies portrayed (which to be fair, also apply to the Soviets, Japanese, Americans with the Monroe doctrine, British, et cetera)
you know, if you ctrl+click the 'unassigned divisions' reminder at the top, it selects all unassigned divs and you dont need to keep dragging your mouse
It’d be so much work to set up and take so much time but imagine a full vanilla hoi4 campaign but you had to do this to take the capital city of any major power
does blurring the flag actually do anything? I don't see many other channels do that and on top of that you miss quite a lot of them, since you do not blur the flags showing on your divisions for example. On that note, if you insist on keeping that flag out of your videos, just mod it out by replacing the image files of the game, like you already did with the flag showing on the top left, just do that for all of them, it's a bit of work to do but considerably less work overall then just bluring it in editing.
@@lebawsski with youtube having a history of making new rules apply to videos made where those rules didn't exist, I can most certainly see that it is reasonable, my concern is that what he currently does is not effective.
Blurring flags or replacing them doesn't matter in this censorship-heavy digital world. I used Germany's WarThunder flag as a placeholder for a small video I made and uploaded to Facebook, in order to be compliant with their Inappropriate Symbols rule, and I still got slapped with a back-to-back 30 day ban. I ended up going through the trouble of re-editing the whole video with the WWI Imperial German Naval Jack instead but never re-uploaded because if I got another back-to-back ban it'd just be a complete account termination.
@@kristofevarsson6903it's not exactly easy for an AI to detect if the swastika is being used in a hoi4 video or in neo nazi propaganda, it's better to have them censored than to have neo nazis
If you have access to any modders, I suggest someone makes a mod in this style about say the german attack on Crete or the possible siege on Malta that never happened in our timeline, it would be pretty cool
I love this scenario, and this video but I personally can't play it because it's just too utterly massive for me to have fun playing it, the deal breaker is the various river crossings that aren't part of contiguous fronts. That said, the kessel challenge map is amazing, and I love RP'ing as the trapped defenders in the pocket :)
"don't" he said, so here we are, and i do so with great pleasure, better life a day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep, that is at least a saying
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i honestly love the custom flag your "B" icon as a flag looks amazing if evry nantion you played for the a-z could have a "B" on it would be amazing
Please play this again but on the soviet side
Is it really you being better? Or was it Steiner's counter attack that actually came to be??? xD
@@AwoudeX Trust Steiner
No Nazi Flag :(
"I needed to.....edit a few flags for the youtube algorithm"
All the German unit flags when zoomed out on the map : Allow us to introduce ourselves
Swastika make monetization not go brrr😢
UA-cam sensors free speech, rebel against this truly un-American way of life.
@@Joseph_son_of_Mary UA-cam is all about profit but still bad at it. I don't think there's anything more American than that.
@@Joseph_son_of_Mary well atleast Something good about this policy
@@Joseph_son_of_Mary ah yes, the terrible thing to do, censor nazi flags
I gotta say, I love how your strategy to bleed them out was exactly what the original high command wanted before Hitler basically sacked all of them for yesmen. Halder essentially wanted to smash the Russian army in decisive battles and then capture the rest of the territory while Hitler decided to split up his already weak forces and attack in several general fronts.
Hitler was practically a reverse Napoleon. Instead of using defeat in detail on his enemies, he sets himself up for it.
A youtuber said (in a very simplified way) that the main difference between the german army and soviet army it's that the soviet generals where more successful in keeping their leader out of the military plans.
Wasn't Halder one of those generals who shifted all their blame on Hilter and Paulus?
TIK history talks about this I believe, where Moustache man wanted to rush the Caucaus region for its oil reserves, while Halder wanted Moscow first thinking they'd collapse like France
@@emib6599 If you look at the battle of France, and compare that to the later stages of Barbarossa, for example the Battle of Stalingrad, you will notice a clear change in doctrine. The OKW was extremely mobile at the start, allowing for officers to push an advantage - without being ordered to do so - without negative consequences if that unauthorized attack was successful. Hitler didn't like it as he was a control freak, even though most of the successes in France were due to that fluid command structure, and wanted it changed: back to the rigid shit show that France showed.
Now insert the surprised Pikachu face when that didn't go to plan... :D
Aye you're right. Paulus was not a FM at the time of the mod starting. He was promoted long after his encirclement as a misguided attempt to bolster his resolve because "no German Field Marshal has ever surrendered on the battlefield". Obviously his resolve wasn't really failing, just that his situation was truly hopeless by that point and he was aware of reality. Kind of got done dirty in the base game making him a level 1 General with "cautious" as a trait as if the devs agree with moustache man (west) that Paulus was a worthless coward.
I also believe Paulus told them what he needed for a breakout and it was pretty much out of the realm of possibility. He also asked if he should break out multiple times but was never given an order by Hitler or Manstein. They would have had to break out an unrealistic distance because Manstein was nowhere near close enough to help. It pretty much just made him the scapegoat and expected them all to die or commit suicide because of the incompetence at that point.
No worries, Paulus. Everything will be fine with Steiner's attack.
100% agreed. Paulus as a level 1 general is laughable. The man had a hand in Operation Barbarossa, he led the 6th army to a decisive victory at second Kharkov, and was literally a week away from finishing off Chuikov, despite his men being poorly supplied since August, because of the German logistics bottleneck in the south. Which was also the reason the airlift failed, Goering knew the planes could do it, the problem was that logistics bottleneck meant they sometimes had to fly half empty or delivered propaganda leaflets, medals and…herbs instead of ammo, food and petrol.
@@mitchotoole9876
Probably just to fight to the last man. They couldn't expect much in Soviet captivity (given what Germany did to soviet PoWs), and every day he fought, he'd tie up several red armies and inflict casualties on them. Hitler probably had opinions for someone who didn't give everything for the Volk (in Nazi ideology, a person's life means nothing, only the people matters).
"Cautious" is not an insult though. They likely underestimated the Soviets, and didn't want a brave commander throwing a certain victory away. That was a mistake - he was too slow to secure the city. But that's a failure of command to put the right person in charge.
Same applied to the allies, e.g. when to use Patton and when to use Bradley.
@@vinccool96 Steiner could mount enough men for the assault. The Soviets have now taken most of Berlin.
I think this video demonstrates the reason why reserves are used. Sure, you don't have the same punching power on the front lines - but having units fresh and unengaged ready to respond to the enemy's actions is what wins campaigns.
14:14
"I am feeling relatively confident I can break them"
Famous last words
Oh man I forgot about this mod never played it but always liked the idea of these kind of mods.
It's a very entertaining mod!
@@Bitt3rSteelhey bittersteel, when will disaster saves return?
@@idk_what_to_set_it_to soon (TM), I'm trying to keep the A-Z going while I mix in other stuff. So don't worry, it's coming.
I really like these "Szenario Fighting maps". would like to see two for Italy, libia/Egypt and mabee the Greece campaign.
Yeah I think you'll like Panzer Corps 2
There is one for the north African campaign… in HOI3, not even a mod its just part of the base game.
if i remmeber correctly, the guy who made this mod said that he might do one for north africa
A little late but the guy who made this mod Is making scenario Berlin and then he should do north Africa I think
There is a mod for italy in libya scenario mod? please send me name
"This is going very well"
Legend says that, every time some Commander say those words, a Major military disaster occurs!
You could've replaced the Swastika with the UA-cam logo cause it kinda matches considering the state of the platform lol
Underrated comment
"My logistics are already terrible day one" ah so this is a historical mod.
My respect to mod creator, He did greate job, but he made mistake huge on mape. He copy map from nowdays, but in 1942 there was no Volga-Don channel and reservoir on Don river
I just love how you totally on purpose beast the soviets by doing a reverse operation uranus
It was "Operation Up Yours" XD
The moment he crushed the northern pocket was the moment I was like.
Yeah he's got this in the bag.
@@jaredjosephsongheng372 my bad that in Ukraine it is the opposite that is happening. LOL winning imaginary battles in video games. LOL. No other army fell like the german army in bagration, not even the soviets in Kiev. go figure it out.
@@joseraulmiguens6699
?????
What are you even on about?
This is literally about Stalingrad......
Where the f*ck are you even getting Bagration from?
@@joseraulmiguens6699huh? are you trying to be serious because people are talking about what's going on in a videogame?
24:06
_HMMM WHATEVER IS THAT BLURRED FOCUS I WONDER, MR. STEEL_
I think artillery should be changed in these zoomed in maps. I'm pretty sure the range of the artillery could reach much farther than just one tile here.
Most ww2 artillery had ranges below 20km. The sacle here is still a few thousand kilometers across the map. Maybe allow heavy siege artillery to fire into adjacent tiles, but you would beed to use the airforce mechanic for that.
I would like to see a mod like this but for the battle of Denmark.
The pre video ads would be longer than the video.
@@mitchotoole9876So true 💀
@@mitchotoole9876one of the truest things I've heard
What battle?
Why would you want a 40 seconds video? (intro and sponsorship included in the 40s)
i like it how the flag was censored everywhere except on the infantry
Ye i think that would be way too much work
@@LeroxYT yeah i can understand it
@@LeroxYT Wouldn't it just be a texture change?
@@10gamer64 idk if you can access the hoi4 files that easily but also, it would still be ridiculousness that he needs to blurr all that
@@LeroxYT The flags appear to be in the mods directory, specifically SteamLibrary\steamapps\workshop\content\394360\2680412886\gfx\flags and the files appear to be editable with gimp, and I think if you change them they should be changed in game.
7:55 Ah yes, your armoured fist to crush Uranus...
fun fact.: Per William Shrier's The Rise and Fall of The Rise and Fall of The Third Reich, Stalingrad, shortly befor the battle was actually unoccupied and the Germans had a chance to take it without a fight but Hitler waffled on what he wanted the 6th Army to do and when he made up his mind the area was reinforced. Just funny to think one of the biggest battles of the biggest war maybe wouldn't have happened.
Man I really hope that developers introduce some sort of siege mechanic for taking large victory points. Still remember when you could capture Paris with 6 combat width paratroopers.
I'd love to see you try this as the Soviets. Plus a mod like this for the American Civil War would be very cool if it happens.
bittersteel: im gonna make a few appointments
his kid: AAAAA
When he said fw190 the captions got it like : fuckable for nineties 11:13
These scenario mods you’re showcasing are v entertaining to watch you play. Definitely keep these coming, please my good man!
November 15th 1942: just a little more to mop up, I've won!
History: oh sweet summer child...;)
Still though if Stalingrad did fall the Soviets would have lost 70% of their oil and would have to rely on Mass Infantry charges. The Germans would probably not be able to get any oil though still due to The Soviets blowing up the oil fields. But this may make the War into an Allied Victory with the use of maybe the Nuclear Bomb. (All of Germany and some of Poland is democratic) instead of a Joint Allied Soviet Victory (Yalta Conference).
The Cold war would not necessarily occur until much later (due to the Soviets not having any Oil until much later)
Thanks!
The captions deciding "Focke Wulfe" should be written as "f*ckable" is really amusing.
Seems about right
That plane does look submissive and breedable......
Just typing that joke made me cringe.
Fun fact about the "Amnesty for Red Deserters" focus. The Nazis broadcasted promises of amnesty for any who surrendered over the city's loudspeaker system. I don't think they actually honored their promises though.
This mod could really use a highlight for all the river crossings. I've also gotten hosed by not seeing a crossing while micro-ing elsewhere.
Bitt3rsteel realizing what a pain in the ass the Stalingrad scenario is:
blud won so fast neither the focus tree nor even the events could catch up
Oh my god “war criminal” is an actual trait applicable for field marshals.
In the German hoi4 version the bad guy is a shadowed blob. They probably thought seeing this magnificent beard could turn us Germans into racist lunatics again
he didnt have a beard??
I think Germany has some laws in place about portraying the Nazis without context/criticism, right? If so, HoI doesn't exactly care a lot about showing the critical side of the ideologies portrayed (which to be fair, also apply to the Soviets, Japanese, Americans with the Monroe doctrine, British, et cetera)
you know, if you ctrl+click the 'unassigned divisions' reminder at the top, it selects all unassigned divs and you dont need to keep dragging your mouse
shift click, ctrl im pretty sure just deletes the reminder
This seems a lot more complicated than axis and allies lol
Hey bitter, you forgot to edit this out, worrying for your monetization man! 3:55
6th Army: *Exists*
Zhukov: I'm about to end 100k men's whole careers
It’d be so much work to set up and take so much time but imagine a full vanilla hoi4 campaign but you had to do this to take the capital city of any major power
Would love to see you play this scenario as the Soviets, to see the possibilities
I would love to see you try more mods like world ablaze. They got bunch of new updates.should be interesting
Rommel because he's Rommel😂😂
does blurring the flag actually do anything? I don't see many other channels do that and on top of that you miss quite a lot of them, since you do not blur the flags showing on your divisions for example.
On that note, if you insist on keeping that flag out of your videos, just mod it out by replacing the image files of the game, like you already did with the flag showing on the top left, just do that for all of them, it's a bit of work to do but considerably less work overall then just bluring it in editing.
It's just to be sure. Ya never know when yt has spasms and starts taking shit down.
@@lebawsski with youtube having a history of making new rules apply to videos made where those rules didn't exist, I can most certainly see that it is reasonable, my concern is that what he currently does is not effective.
Blurring flags or replacing them doesn't matter in this censorship-heavy digital world. I used Germany's WarThunder flag as a placeholder for a small video I made and uploaded to Facebook, in order to be compliant with their Inappropriate Symbols rule, and I still got slapped with a back-to-back 30 day ban. I ended up going through the trouble of re-editing the whole video with the WWI Imperial German Naval Jack instead but never re-uploaded because if I got another back-to-back ban it'd just be a complete account termination.
@@kristofevarsson6903it's not exactly easy for an AI to detect if the swastika is being used in a hoi4 video or in neo nazi propaganda, it's better to have them censored than to have neo nazis
it would be cool there was a mod of battle of berlin
Considering like 6,000 POWs ever came back from the 6th Army, might as well say they were killed to the last man
Stalingrad but if bitt3rsteel was in charge:
This man seriously needs to be hired as a general
@@Simon_the_penguinI know right
Nicely turned around!
Thanks!
If you have access to any modders, I suggest someone makes a mod in this style about say the german attack on Crete or the possible siege on Malta that never happened in our timeline, it would be pretty cool
Remember:if we fail, we blame the romanians
The Greater Belgium Reich has taken Stalingrad by the help of field marshall bitt3rsteel
I love this scenario, and this video but I personally can't play it because it's just too utterly massive for me to have fun playing it, the deal breaker is the various river crossings that aren't part of contiguous fronts. That said, the kessel challenge map is amazing, and I love RP'ing as the trapped defenders in the pocket :)
It’d be amazing if there was a mod for the battle of berlin
why? That battle was so straightforward. Germans had zero chance of winning
@@therealclp Same goes for the D-day Scenario, and even this Stalingrad one.
11:28 "Stupidly enough its 1942 and Germany doesnt have trains"
Uhhh... yeah. They are needed for a... special project behind the lines.
Oh no....
Bittersteel you should have put the youtube logo for the german flag. Would be historical to say the least.
Reminds me of when RTGame made "UA-cam" into a swear.
Didn't knew, that you paint your nails, and shave your legs... and i didnt knew, that you had kids, lol)
While I do have kids, that is stock footage
@@Bitt3rSteel well, not that I'm against painted nails and shaved men legs, lol))
i dont know how you did that but im at 27:40 and the low volume song behind sounds so realistic
Yay! More scenarios, love the videos :D
oh my god. that suffering was a hell of a fight. your strategic genius with the northern outbreak was planned of course 🤣
i always wanna see a follow up where u play the other side!
to find out who rules over you simply find out what flags you have to censor on youtube and consider it to be the opposite of that
bitt3steel when he almost loses the campaign "on purpose" ir order to kill a large amount of the soviet army:
I played this mod too, but some month ago. I played to 1947 and then i was unable to play more, it was crashing all the time after that.
This looks Awesome!
It is!
that is how it is done
Of course UA-cam doesn't allow certain flags, if they saw this flag it would remind them of what they are becoming.
I mean it would be easy for Germans if they had a literal live combat map
That was some child advertising right there and I love that.
"don't" he said, so here we are, and i do so with great pleasure, better life a day as a lion than a hundred years as a sheep, that is at least a saying
nice video man hello from serbia
Hello there!
The flag editing for this video was a massive effort for sure 🎉
To win just don't fight in the winter
We need this kind of mod for the Russo-Japanese War
The title should be "How to Stalingright"
You forgot to censor the icons for the divisions in the field.
That'd take far too much work
Good job!
You could try and defend Stalingrad as the Soviet Union next time if you want :D
lmao no
you forgot a lot of swastikas on the map lol
i really hope that we get this deatailed map in hoi5 so that logistics can be way more important.
the fps will be negative at best
@@gmg6863 Get a better CPU :)
@@foty8679 still
@@foty8679 Just imagine hoi 4 but every thing that is a state currently would be as many as there are possible building slots in it and a few more.
I like how you did your nails for the advertisement
I would love a mod of this kind for spanish civil war
Pretty sure you havent tried it yet but there is a Scenario:Korea as well, be cool to see you do that one
Wonder if you could do the whole world with this level of detail
Interesting how the video was over one-third of the total length when you unpaused the game.
When you zoom in you forgot to censor the icon of the division
Would love to see the Soviet side of things!
didn't even watch the vid yet but i know this is gonna be good
Never get rid of the fuhrer
Can you do this but for the entire Fall Blau operation (and execute it better than square moustache man) ?
Pov: you play scenario:stalingrad a mod that's historically immersive.
BitterSteel ruining it all with dumping the fuehrer😭💀
If you want to win that's what you gotta do lol. Hitler really screwed up the war effort
Tommykay played this and took him 2 times to win.
I haven't finished the video but it gets worse the more you take.
Editor: tries to censor the no no germany flag so good as he can
Bitter zooms in: .....
Its not the Greater German Reich its the Greater Steel Reich now lol
Er bewirbt ein Spiel in dem das Ziel ist Drachenlord zu werden.
Sorry, that joke does not translate to english...
i wonder if it got demonitzed from the unit icons?
More Bitt3rSteel
Love the video , Try play soviet side too i find it more difficult than german side, dont know why
Bro i am not sure that avrige HoI player have wife and kids💀
Keep up the good work
Now you've experienced partly what was going on in the minds of the germans at the time :D
I'm going to go out on a limb and say the mod was probably easier to win when you didn't have to spend so much time researching basic trains...
Notler's hero!
why was that german pronounciation of vernichtungskrieg that good? 24:30