This is an important lesson for you guys. I scored 98% in Agreeableness. I scored 95% in Compassion, and 98% in Politeness. I remember feeling so proud of that score, and when I was going through my traits with my brother who scores very low in Agreeableness, he said to me, “woah, 98% in Agreeableness, that’s bad!” I was confused what he meant, as being a compassionate, polite person is a good thing, but his response was, “yeah, but it’s basically saying you’re a complete push over who can’t stand up for yourself, and that’s bad! No one respects a pushover.” I thought that what he said made a lot of sense, and it taught me that there is no such thing as a good or bad personality, we are all different, we all have our positives and negatives. Being high in agreeableness is a good thing, and it is also a bad thing. So if you score “badly” in something, don’t worry.
well said exactly my case. just to improve the ideia. "PEOPLE Pleaser" very common trait related to narcissistic parents. Be good not by an intrinsic value, but by being a rat lab conditioned to be good for the whole life. . you are only good if you are capable of being bad. and in the correct circunstances you choose not to be. i took me just 25 years to understand. than it came psychological rebirth. on and on. and the beautifulness of life keeps its cycles. sorry for my English cheers from brazil
@user Neuroticism is about 23% But it was 70% for withdrawal and 3% for volatility. So in other words, I get stressed and anxious quite easily, but you would never know it by looking at me.
My husband has this type of personality, probably the most emotionally stable and optimistic person I have known. Family background was not ideal but he turned out to be great. Raised by a loving, simple, but uneducated mother and a narcissistic father. Mom was there to provide constant care and love without much emotional manipulation. The good thing about his narcissistic father was that he left him alone. Growing up, His dad liked to travel and go out on his own constantly without the children and the wife. So, basically just left them be. Dad’s emotional manipulation was heavily applied to the oldest child, him being the youngest, was largely ignored. I can see the damage done to the oldest sibling.
Having a healthy attitude towards self-improvement, possing a good amount of self-awareness, self-discipline, and being self-critical, same goes for having a decent amount of insight into mental health topics, is in my opinion paramount, to having an optimal personality towards mental health. :)
I always wondered what a normal person was like. I wished I could meet one. OMG! And it's amazing how BPs are similar to a healthy personality. Very uplifting. Thank you Dr. Grande It's very humble of you to point this out. Thank you!
Their concept of optimal reflects a preference for and value of robustness or resistance to up-ending. High conscientiousness for stability and structure, high extraversion for joie de vivre and sociability, low neuroticism, openness for adaptation, and agreeableness to bolster social connections which make an individual even harder to destroy.
Healthy personality profile High scores on facets: Open to feelings Confidence Warmth Positive emotions Straight forwardness Moderate scores on facets: Creativity / Fantasy Modesty Excitement seeking Low on scores on all facets on neuroticism I may have missed some points .. "normal" personality profile is similar to a psychological "healthy" profile but not exactly. Some Personality Disorders like BDP have an unhealthy profile, despite the fact that they have some similarities with the healthy profile but negative emotions are making the difference. NPD as well etc. It's just one way of looking at personality and some traits are not covered by the five factor model, like having insight etc.
Well researched yet again, I‘m learning a lot from this channel. Using the Ocean personality model has helped me work out so many things about myself and others, I think I also like it a lot as a tool
But those "bad" personality traits must be good for something, or evolution would have eliminated them and we'd see much less variation. I've read somewhere that high neuroticism correlates with high creativity and problem solving abilities, because rumination and creative thinking happen in the same part of the brain. What do you know about that? Can creative activities help ro reduce the tendency to worry and ruminate? And there's something I've been wondering about for a long time: There's this myth that artists and other creative "geniuses" are somehow fundamentally different and more prone to mental illness than average humans (and that artists are born with fully developed talents and can live off exposure), which gets perpetuated by pop psychology . Is there any actual science to support that? Is there something like an "average artist" personality profile - traits other than neuroticism and openness that are very high or low in creative individuals? Anything that helps to demystify my job would be much appreciated. Also, I find these topics fascinating!
I recognize that. I'm extremely neurotic and can't let go of some problems, so I keep thinking about them. I am not a genius but I could see how somebody with a higher IQ could innovate because of incessant worrying about some scientific problem.
Dolph lundgren and Sylvester Stallone are geniuses and have healthy personalities. There is correlation bur lots of average people have mental problems But yes, certain personality types promote procreation in certain circumstances that are not generally true. For example sociopaths can be screamingly successful as long as there are not too many of them.
Evolution takes millions of years to occur, and believe it or not we haven’t actually been around as a species that long. We still have many useless organs, and really aren’t too different from some of the first homo-sapiens, evolution doesn’t solve everything. Some personality traits might just be useless.
Balance is the KEY..Some extroverversion being outgoing..with some inner introversion..also (conscienciousness) also knowing one's skills abilities and talents and how to make the most of them)... caring warmth..positive emotions with healthy boundries..good anger management..understanding how to recover from negative experiences..with the ability to be sympathetic/ empathetic..and agreeable..These might suggest a healthy personality! 😊 The Ability to be flexible and learn how to cope with the environment..people and one's self Without being overly judgemental harsh or blame or shame others or self..leads to healthier inner feelings..and cooperation with others! If only psychology would take into effect diet..lack of dopomine or seritonin..environmental effects.. loss lack grief and whether the person was more introverted or extroverted..more could be addressed as to personality disorders! Optimism Positivity & Hope help Enormously are a trademark of healthy behaviors! A questionaire helping clients answer what has shaped their personality and mostly affected them..should be included in their assessment (interaction with parents siblings authority figures..spouses/children).These should be in the history of each cliet/ patient! If Cancer has a more rounded healing approach..shouldn't mental health? 😍 (What most people that are EMPATHS don't realize..is that those that are NARCISSISTIC..BPD..ASPD..and those that have anger/rage are attracted to Empaths..or those innocent\ naive to these personalities..those with these disorders want to accepted healed and have healthier relationships..but they don't know how..or how to heal themselves...some get trapped in the past hurts or stay in a certain behavior for years..or the rest of their life😞).
A very fine summation of healthy personality traits, Dr Grande. The major confusion I have is that introversion is never mentioned, so if someone is an introvert but has the agreeableness and warmth of an extrovert, does that mean the introvert is less mentally healthy? Or totally mentally unhealthy? I’d fail this test, anyway - too perfectionistic (but only regarding myself), not others. I do believe authenticity is important in mental health, but that’s merely my own opinion. Thank you 😊
Thanks for the interesting video, Dr. Grande! When discussing an optimal personality profile, one central feature seems to fall outside the scope of the Big Five frame of reference - and that is a person's right degree of flexibility, or adaptability to changing environment. You mentioned flexibility at the end of this video, and I think it is qualitatively distinct from the big five. As I see it, flexibility is a dynamical characteristic, whereas the Big Five represent a kind of static frame of reference within which those personal dynamics would play out. Still, I can't help feeling that it is precisely flexibility that captures the notion of a healthy person. One can ask then: what is a good degree of flexibility (not too "flabby" but also not too rigid), and what are healthy limits of flexibility beyond which it becomes a lack of integrated identity?
Good points. Flexibility and openness are integrated personality qualities. One cannot be flexible and not open to new, and cannot be open to new without being flexible. The difference is that flexibility is dynamic by definition and openness is a passive trait.
Another way to call this is an orientation, rather than an exact science. The other side could be the unhealthy living style.. Another factor missing in studies apart from the ones u mentioned is intuition, sympathy, antipathy, attraction, unattractive, which are also inexplicable factors that influence our daily behaviors and interactions at a certain level. My mini thoughts here. Thank u so much for sharing this knowledge. I find it very interesting.
There is no "best" in evolutionary terms. What may be considered "best" under those terms is what is conducive to survival under a specific set of circumstances and circumstances change. If you don't go with those terms you'd kinda have to define and argue for the relevance of other terms. The operative question here being "best at what and why do we care?"
This is related to mental health on the level of an individual. It would be interesting to try to find what distribution (and variation in distribution between individuals) is preferable on the level of a society. I guess that the preferable society may overall benefit from persons who go well above the preferable level of openness (like artists) and conscientiousness, and those who go below the preferable level of extroversion and agreeableness (like scientists), for example. And this can of course be further specified in the 6 traits that make up each dimension. But I guess you enter the domain of culture, sociology and politics if you make assumptions about what is preferable on the collective level. And it would become very very complex. Perhaps you can try to say something about what is best for maintaining a broad consensus (as in not damaging polarized) in a liberal democracy? America (among others) could use this kind of information. :-)
Before I watch through this, I predict: Openness: high (around 75-85) Conscientiousness: high (around 75-80) Extraversion: above average (around 60-70) Agreeableness: average (40-60) Neuroticism: low (0-25) *Edit*: Fairly good guess, not perfect though. I didn’t know that they’d split these into 6 facets.
In the past when taking a personality test that used colors to label personality characterisitcs I read that the 'best' personality for mental health often depends on the favored methods of educating children in the public school system. That "True Color" personality test I took almost 21 years ago said that the orange colored personality range was best for predicting mental health. My own "True Color" test result was an equal balance between the blue and green personality color factors. I am not sure what any of those test results meant back then or now. The person admistering the "true Colors" personality test after looking at my scores took me aside and gave me the awful warning that I was going to have a difficult life. So Dr. Grande seeing your success gives me hope.
Hmm. I scored very high on openess, agreeableness, and medium high on extroversion. Very low on conscientiousness, low on neuroticism. And yes, this mirrors my self image of a curious cheerful friendly person who's a little airheaded/forgetful, but it was quite a kick in the stomach when I saw the conscientiousness score. 😱. Every nightmare and worry I've had, since a very young age, has been about forgetting to do something good or accidentally doing something bad, because that is undoubtedly my major weakness. And I've surrounded myself with people who are high in conscientiousness because I see the value in this trait. And then in my 30s I got diagnosed with ADHD. Hello!
Hello Dr. Todd I love your videos! You should create a video on The Ace Family; people say they are extremely narcissistic. I would love to have a real Doctors point of view on how they act differently when knowing they are on camera and when they don’t know they are being recorded.
I found something talking about "Healthy Neuroticism". High Neuroticism is associated with a shorter life span, but apparently a study found some people with high neuroticism _and_ Conscientiousness have lower levels of Interleukin-6 protein, which is a biomarker for inflammatory diseases. Having high conscientiousness would also help prevent individuals from unhealthy self medicating for relief from their neurotic feelings, and to push them toward an active healthy lifestyle (out of fear of the consequences I guess). I love this personality stuff, it's really interesting
I remember a personality course I took at work in the 90s. The instructor told us the personality type isn't important or can be changed, our focus should be on our versatility towards other personalities.
I believe that when people are seeking happiness, they are either trying to find the light in their dark lives, or they have just found that the "best way" to experience life is to be constantly happy. I think happiness is essential to the human being, but making it a main priority is taking it too far, so the quote goes bothways.
Im Always happy, i dont know if have ever been annoyed by myself, if someone annoys me, it takes only minutes and im back to normal.. i also love myself, if anybody tries to critisise me in a negative way, i always remained myself, i was never critisise by my parents never ever, a was never insulted by my parents, so all the critics i try to shut them down then reminiced my childhood, eventually ill end up smiling and in good moods, most childhood trauma think im egoistic but ib reality not really.
“All of the facets of neuroticism were higher in the ‘normal’ personality than in the ‘healthy’ personality.” Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think the question creates its own answer.
With all due respect, I don't agree with that study's conclusion. Not that I made a research of my own or anything, but I believe there is no such thing as a "best personality type". Every personality has strengths and weaknesses. No one is perfect. What one needs to do is to optimally put their strengths to work, and try to minimize the effects of their weaknesses. Everyone can make a positive impact in this world, regardless of their personality type. I hope my opinion doesn't put be me on the lower side of agreeableness;)
Bunny I believe I am quite high in neuroticism, which has increased with age. What is helping me is a combination of using logic to question my reactions, and to control my internal dialogue. I think I may have a more active inner voice, and I have had to hijack it , and turn the phrase around to a more helpful, or healthy thought. It takes a big willingness to look inside and gain an honest view.
Dr Grande, thank you for the lesson. Do you agree with the Myers-Briggs personality classifications, and can that information co-exist with FFM analysis? Thanks for the help.
FFM is too subjective, I take the test and found different result every time... I certainly prefer MBTI, although I know they don't test for the same characteristics, and that psychologists tend to use the former, HR the latter (at least from my own experience)...
@@smartcatcollarproject5699 it's been a long time since your post but I went through a period of my life where I investigated my personality type and that included Myers-Briggs. I also found enneagrams to be very useful. You might also.
@@smartcatcollarproject5699 MBTI is not considered psychology. Even on their own website they make a disclaimer not to use it for diagnoses. The FFM is standard for therapy and psychology.
Shouldn't this correlate to longest lifespan and/or most offspring in order to reduce subjectivity? I would think too much open to experience gets one killed young, too much neuroticism leads one to suicide or cardiovascular issues, low agreeableness doesn't get you very far with the opposite gender, etc.
Long life doesn't matter as long as you reproduce. For example if you cut a swath through women having a half dozen children and die at 23 and those children grow to adulthood and reproduce then you're good.
Very informative. Now I am curious to know my own FFM profile. I have an idea but I would like to have a professional test conducted.. Thank for all you do Dr. Grande! 281k and counting...., so proud of you! 🌹
Thanks for your great videos. Are there any tools you would recommend to use to cover the areas that are not well covered by the FFM: authenticity, flexibility and insight?
To me, it sounds that the healthiest personality profile is the one the most adapted to the American culture. I wonder if it could vary from changes from culture to culture?
Surely the "best" or "optimal" personality from the perspective of a mental health expert differs to what a corporate CEO or a military leader might say.
Dr. Todd if you may, you can provide in your OCEAN ACROSTIC NEURO.... FOR a healthy personality in terms of neuro Science. How we determine at least in your Academic Standard a Healthy personality in neuro aspect. Thank and Godbless.
Dr. Grande: "According to this article, the healthiest personality would be high in O., C., E. and A., and low in Neuroticism" Me, a kid with generalized anxiety: Really high in O., mid-high in C., mid-high in E., high in A. Okay, seems like I'm fairly healthy. Then I check my Neuroticism and it's really high, lol Normal people problems, I guess 🤷🏻♀️
Is there a way to increase the positive traits? I'd say I was leaning towards the healthier facets when I was younger (ie, I found value in agreeableness, warmth, I wasn't very neurotic etc) but after a period of intense emotional distress sustained over a period of years, I find I no longer have the energy or capability towards the healthier end that I once had. Help?
We need the healthiest people to be grandiose: so they can be noticed, and inspire the rest of us. *healthy person opens shirt to reveal an S, then flies off*
The FFM captures authenticity and insight, indirectly, but not in the most useful way. Without these characteristics, it's unlikely that one's self-reported personality traits will be accurate. If there were a way to compare someone's "real" traits with their FFM score, that would be rather interesting.
It definitely differs from person to person. For me, I have openness 99th and conscientiousness 1st. I wouldn’t change this as it gives me an outlook that I’ve discovered is unique, and in my opinion, positively so. But, it’s describing extreme ADHD I have, so it almost impossible to work the boring stuff on my business without meds. Despite that, I can memorize a Beethoven sonata or write a book on any number of original thoughts I have in under a week due to those same traits. If I were paid for my ideas or my music, I would be extremely productive and that would be best, at least for my sake. But I’m not, not yet at least, so it’s very bad for me and I need to change my brain chemistry five days out of the week to counteract the traits and save their manifestations for when I have time to enjoy myself.
Is neuroticism associated with forehead size? Since the frontal cortex is responsible for gratification postponement & whatnot. Is the health & functionality of the FC even related to the visible size of the skull's forehead? I have a relatively small forehead & this is something I've been struggling with for almost 7 years now, I wanted to be completely logical & realistic in how I look at the world but my search for knowledge has gotten me into some sort of depressing inferiority complex where I can't see my personal value because there are people who have better tools than mine
I love these videos, but they frequently highlight the illusory distinction between science and philosophy. Science can't tell us what is "good", but it can tell us what is "healthy"?
All major questions of science are philosophical in nature. Whenever a scientist asks himself about the fundamentals of his discipline, he finds philosophy, whether he likes it or not. And those who never suffer from these issues are mediocre scientists
@@DrGrande With your devotion to reliable information, I would recommend it easily. As I do your channel when asked by millennials on mental health. Great work 👍👍
Your talk to us like we are stupid. We are not asking about scores. We are asking what is the best personality profile because we already know about the Big 5
100 E, 98 O, 96 A 54 C and 12 N. I am OK. I do really worry about my high scores. I score high in MBTI, ENF are all over 85 to 100. and Ennogram numbers are 90 too 100 too. 2w3 Should I be concerned?
@@privatprivat7279 I will do any tests. I just found out my IQ is 98 percentile at 56 years old. I wished I knew this younger. I recently found my EQ is in the 99 percentile too. I even out did Dr, Phil, and scored 160. Then I did an hour EQ test, and scored 99 percentile. LOL. I just always thought I was street smart. Then with a perfect social and self awareness and management scores, I always thought I wastoo hyper vigilant. Its weird how you don't really know how different you are compared to other people until you do these tests. I just always that I was just me.
There is nothing wrong with introversion. See Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking Paperback - Jan 29 2013 by Susan Cain (Author)
This is an important lesson for you guys.
I scored 98% in Agreeableness. I scored 95% in Compassion, and 98% in Politeness.
I remember feeling so proud of that score, and when I was going through my traits with my brother who scores very low in Agreeableness, he said to me, “woah, 98% in Agreeableness, that’s bad!”
I was confused what he meant, as being a compassionate, polite person is a good thing, but his response was, “yeah, but it’s basically saying you’re a complete push over who can’t stand up for yourself, and that’s bad! No one respects a pushover.”
I thought that what he said made a lot of sense, and it taught me that there is no such thing as a good or bad personality, we are all different, we all have our positives and negatives. Being high in agreeableness is a good thing, and it is also a bad thing.
So if you score “badly” in something, don’t worry.
well said exactly my case. just to improve the ideia. "PEOPLE Pleaser" very common trait related to narcissistic parents. Be good not by an intrinsic value, but by being a rat lab conditioned to be good for the whole life. . you are only good if you are capable of being bad. and in the correct circunstances you choose not to be. i took me just 25 years to understand. than it came psychological rebirth. on and on. and the beautifulness of life keeps its cycles. sorry for my English cheers from brazil
@user Neuroticism is about 23%
But it was 70% for withdrawal and 3% for volatility. So in other words, I get stressed and anxious quite easily, but you would never know it by looking at me.
From helping friends get through the fight against having cancer, I learned that being optimistic increases the odds of survival considerably.
"I made a good effort I think..." you always make a good effort Dr. Grande, and also, you're hot!
My husband has this type of personality, probably the most emotionally stable and optimistic person I have known. Family background was not ideal but he turned out to be great. Raised by a loving, simple, but uneducated mother and a narcissistic father. Mom was there to provide constant care and love without much emotional manipulation. The good thing about his narcissistic father was that he left him alone. Growing up, His dad liked to travel and go out on his own constantly without the children and the wife. So, basically just left them be. Dad’s emotional manipulation was heavily applied to the oldest child, him being the youngest, was largely ignored. I can see the damage done to the oldest sibling.
Having a healthy attitude towards self-improvement, possing a good amount of self-awareness, self-discipline, and being self-critical, same goes for having a decent amount of insight into mental health topics, is in my opinion paramount, to having an optimal personality towards mental health. :)
I always wondered what a normal person was like. I wished I could meet one.
OMG! And it's amazing how BPs are similar to a healthy personality.
Very uplifting.
Thank you Dr. Grande
It's very humble of you to point this out.
Thank you!
There is no normal person.
@@StJames-xt7xt if there is no normal wouldn't that make everyone normal? 🤔
I think normal right now is what's considered special
Flexibility and insight are certainly very important in my workplace. Thank you for this very interesting talk.
These are great, thanks for making interesting psychological content. Keep it up.
Dr. Grande- you made me laugh with your admission about your own personality. Great information as always, thank you.
Their concept of optimal reflects a preference for and value of robustness or resistance to up-ending. High conscientiousness for stability and structure, high extraversion for joie de vivre and sociability, low neuroticism, openness for adaptation, and agreeableness to bolster social connections which make an individual even harder to destroy.
Environment and circumstances are the variables that would dictate the best personality fit.
Thanks Dr Grande, your videos are like medicine.
Healthy personality profile
High scores on facets:
Open to feelings
Confidence
Warmth
Positive emotions
Straight forwardness
Moderate scores on facets:
Creativity / Fantasy
Modesty
Excitement seeking
Low on scores on all facets on
neuroticism
I may have missed some points ..
"normal" personality profile is similar to a psychological "healthy" profile but not exactly.
Some Personality Disorders like BDP have an unhealthy profile, despite the fact that they have some similarities with the healthy profile but negative emotions are making the difference. NPD as well etc.
It's just one way of looking at personality and some traits are not covered by the five factor model, like having insight etc.
Have been binge watching your videos for the past one week on big five concepts and it's been fantastic. Thanks for your work
Well researched yet again,
I‘m learning a lot from this channel. Using the Ocean personality model has helped me work out so many things about myself and others, I think I also like it a lot as a tool
My optimism has saved me from
Myself sometimes xxx
But those "bad" personality traits must be good for something, or evolution would have eliminated them and we'd see much less variation.
I've read somewhere that high neuroticism correlates with high creativity and problem solving abilities, because rumination and creative thinking happen in the same part of the brain. What do you know about that? Can creative activities help ro reduce the tendency to worry and ruminate?
And there's something I've been wondering about for a long time: There's this myth that artists and other creative "geniuses" are somehow fundamentally different and more prone to mental illness than average humans (and that artists are born with fully developed talents and can live off exposure), which gets perpetuated by pop psychology . Is there any actual science to support that? Is there something like an "average artist" personality profile - traits other than neuroticism and openness that are very high or low in creative individuals? Anything that helps to demystify my job would be much appreciated. Also, I find these topics fascinating!
I recognize that. I'm extremely neurotic and can't let go of some problems, so I keep thinking about them. I am not a genius but I could see how somebody with a higher IQ could innovate because of incessant worrying about some scientific problem.
Dolph lundgren and Sylvester Stallone are geniuses and have healthy personalities.
There is correlation bur lots of average people have mental problems
But yes, certain personality types promote procreation in certain circumstances that are not generally true. For example sociopaths can be screamingly successful as long as there are not too many of them.
I am creative and neurotic(but i think i channel it in a healthy way.;).
Spam Panda nope, neuroticism is a bad trait, anyway you put it. It hinders problem solving.
Evolution takes millions of years to occur, and believe it or not we haven’t actually been around as a species that long. We still have many useless organs, and really aren’t too different from some of the first homo-sapiens, evolution doesn’t solve everything. Some personality traits might just be useless.
I love this presentation on personality profiles. Thank you for posting this video!
You are quite welcome!
Balance is the KEY..Some extroverversion being outgoing..with some inner introversion..also (conscienciousness) also knowing one's skills abilities and talents and how to make the most of them)... caring warmth..positive emotions with healthy boundries..good anger management..understanding how to recover from negative experiences..with the ability to be sympathetic/ empathetic..and agreeable..These might suggest a healthy personality! 😊 The Ability to be flexible and learn how to cope with the environment..people and one's self Without being overly judgemental harsh or blame or shame others or self..leads to healthier inner feelings..and cooperation with others!
If only psychology would take into effect diet..lack of dopomine or seritonin..environmental effects.. loss lack grief and whether the person was more introverted or extroverted..more could be addressed as to personality disorders! Optimism Positivity & Hope help Enormously are a trademark of healthy behaviors!
A questionaire helping clients answer what has shaped their personality and mostly affected them..should be included in their assessment (interaction with parents siblings authority figures..spouses/children).These should be in the history of each cliet/ patient!
If Cancer has a more rounded healing approach..shouldn't mental health? 😍
(What most people that are EMPATHS don't realize..is that those that are NARCISSISTIC..BPD..ASPD..and those that have anger/rage are attracted to Empaths..or those innocent\ naive to these personalities..those with these disorders want to accepted healed and have healthier relationships..but they don't know how..or how to heal themselves...some get trapped in the past hurts or stay in a certain behavior for years..or the rest of their life😞).
A very fine summation of healthy personality traits, Dr Grande. The major confusion I have is that introversion is never mentioned, so if someone is an introvert but has the agreeableness and warmth of an extrovert, does that mean the introvert is less mentally healthy? Or totally mentally unhealthy? I’d fail this test, anyway - too perfectionistic (but only regarding myself), not others. I do believe authenticity is important in mental health, but that’s merely my own opinion. Thank you 😊
Thanks for the interesting video, Dr. Grande! When discussing an optimal personality profile, one central feature seems to fall outside the scope of the Big Five frame of reference - and that is a person's right degree of flexibility, or adaptability to changing environment. You mentioned flexibility at the end of this video, and I think it is qualitatively distinct from the big five. As I see it, flexibility is a dynamical characteristic, whereas the Big Five represent a kind of static frame of reference within which those personal dynamics would play out. Still, I can't help feeling that it is precisely flexibility that captures the notion of a healthy person. One can ask then: what is a good degree of flexibility (not too "flabby" but also not too rigid), and what are healthy limits of flexibility beyond which it becomes a lack of integrated identity?
Adaptability seems to encompass much of what a healthy personality is
Good points. Flexibility and openness are integrated personality qualities. One cannot be flexible and not open to new, and cannot be open to new without being flexible. The difference is that flexibility is dynamic by definition and openness is a passive trait.
Another way to call this is an orientation, rather than an exact science.
The other side could be the unhealthy living style..
Another factor missing in studies apart from the ones u mentioned is intuition, sympathy, antipathy, attraction, unattractive, which are also inexplicable factors that influence our daily behaviors and interactions at a certain level.
My mini thoughts here.
Thank u so much for sharing this knowledge. I find it very interesting.
There is no "best" in evolutionary terms. What may be considered "best" under those terms is what is conducive to survival under a specific set of circumstances and circumstances change. If you don't go with those terms you'd kinda have to define and argue for the relevance of other terms. The operative question here being "best at what and why do we care?"
There is no best, wonderful reflections Dr. Grande.
This is related to mental health on the level of an individual. It would be interesting to try to find what distribution (and variation in distribution between individuals) is preferable on the level of a society. I guess that the preferable society may overall benefit from persons who go well above the preferable level of openness (like artists) and conscientiousness, and those who go below the preferable level of extroversion and agreeableness (like scientists), for example. And this can of course be further specified in the 6 traits that make up each dimension.
But I guess you enter the domain of culture, sociology and politics if you make assumptions about what is preferable on the collective level. And it would become very very complex. Perhaps you can try to say something about what is best for maintaining a broad consensus (as in not damaging polarized) in a liberal democracy? America (among others) could use this kind of information. :-)
It's so very encouraging to learn about these topics ~ Thank you Dr. Grande . Aloha
Wow! I love I closing thoughts and analysis on diversity and insight.
😊loved it. Very interesting and informative. Thank you 💕
I really enjoyed this video.
Thanks Dr. Grande 😃
You're welcome!
I don't know why I am watching. I already know what a wonderful human I am.
Before I watch through this, I predict:
Openness: high (around 75-85)
Conscientiousness: high (around 75-80)
Extraversion: above average (around 60-70)
Agreeableness: average (40-60)
Neuroticism: low (0-25)
*Edit*: Fairly good guess, not perfect though. I didn’t know that they’d split these into 6 facets.
"I Am Am Eternal Optimist"
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your videos are best in the field thx for this golden review
Doctor, have you done a video on these uncaptured traits; flexibility, authenticity and insight? I'd be very curious to learn about that.
Happy thanks giving , very good video .
I'm learning alot from you Dr.todd
In the past when taking a personality test that used colors to label personality characterisitcs I read that the 'best' personality for mental health often depends on the favored methods of educating children in the public school system. That "True Color" personality test I took almost 21 years ago said that the orange colored personality range was best for predicting mental health. My own "True Color" test result was an equal balance between the blue and green personality color factors. I am not sure what any of those test results meant back then or now. The person admistering the "true Colors" personality test after looking at my scores took me aside and gave me the awful warning that I was going to have a difficult life. So Dr. Grande seeing your success gives me hope.
Are there models or tests that accurately capture flexibility, authenticity, and/or insight?
Kindness to mankind and being authentic are good traits.
Great topic Dr Grande. Your presentation is excellent. Love your channel!😇😇
Hmm. I scored very high on openess, agreeableness, and medium high on extroversion.
Very low on conscientiousness, low on neuroticism.
And yes, this mirrors my self image of a curious cheerful friendly person who's a little airheaded/forgetful, but it was quite a kick in the stomach when I saw the conscientiousness score. 😱. Every nightmare and worry I've had, since a very young age, has been about forgetting to do something good or accidentally doing something bad, because that is undoubtedly my major weakness. And I've surrounded myself with people who are high in conscientiousness because I see the value in this trait.
And then in my 30s I got diagnosed with ADHD. Hello!
Hello Dr. Todd I love your videos! You should create a video on The Ace Family; people say they are extremely narcissistic. I would love to have a real Doctors point of view on how they act differently when knowing they are on camera and when they don’t know they are being recorded.
I found something talking about "Healthy Neuroticism". High Neuroticism is associated with a shorter life span, but apparently a study found some people with high neuroticism _and_ Conscientiousness have lower levels of Interleukin-6 protein, which is a biomarker for inflammatory diseases. Having high conscientiousness would also help prevent individuals from unhealthy self medicating for relief from their neurotic feelings, and to push them toward an active healthy lifestyle (out of fear of the consequences I guess).
I love this personality stuff, it's really interesting
I remember a personality course I took at work in the 90s. The instructor told us the personality type isn't important or can be changed, our focus should be on our versatility towards other personalities.
As Slavoj Zizek said, "Why be happy when you can be interesting?"
I believe that when people are seeking happiness, they are either trying to find the light in their dark lives, or they have just found that the "best way" to experience life is to be constantly happy. I think happiness is essential to the human being, but making it a main priority is taking it too far, so the quote goes bothways.
Soothing words by the thinker.
Im Always happy, i dont know if have ever been annoyed by myself, if someone annoys me, it takes only minutes and im back to normal.. i also love myself, if anybody tries to critisise me in a negative way, i always remained myself, i was never critisise by my parents never ever, a was never insulted by my parents, so all the critics i try to shut them down then reminiced my childhood, eventually ill end up smiling and in good moods, most childhood trauma think im egoistic but ib reality not really.
Quality video though there are loud background noises in the recording that ironically enough made me think i was imagining voices :P
Cultivate yourself and make your personality the ideal.
“All of the facets of neuroticism were higher in the ‘normal’ personality than in the ‘healthy’ personality.”
Not to put too fine a point on it, but I think the question creates its own answer.
Thanks for this video. Very interesting!
Well Adjusted!
These are kinda like the celestial readings. Interesting nonetheless. Two words for Neuroticism: Woody Allen. Genius!
The best for you maybe different than what’s best for me, and vice versa
With all due respect, I don't agree with that study's conclusion. Not that I made a research of my own or anything, but I believe there is no such thing as a "best personality type". Every personality has strengths and weaknesses. No one is perfect. What one needs to do is to optimally put their strengths to work, and try to minimize the effects of their weaknesses. Everyone can make a positive impact in this world, regardless of their personality type. I hope my opinion doesn't put be me on the lower side of agreeableness;)
Dr. Grande, I'd be interested in a FFM profile of the various PDs, whether individually or in the clusters.
I am trying to collect this information from the literature - I will put in together in a video as soon as I can - thanks for the idea!
@@DrGrande Thank you!
Dr. Todd Grande - another question, if someone is high in Neuroticism, what practical, concrete steps can they take to lower their score? Thanks.
Bunny I believe I am quite high in neuroticism, which has increased with age. What is helping me is a combination of using logic to question my reactions, and to control my internal dialogue. I think I may have a more active inner voice, and I have had to hijack it , and turn the phrase around to a more helpful, or healthy thought. It takes a big willingness to look inside and gain an honest view.
This is very interesting, but because it becomes a little too involved, I find it hard to retain!
I think the low scores for excitement seeking and fantasy are to make the person content in their circumstances
Really interesting video!
Dr Grande, thank you for the lesson. Do you agree with the Myers-Briggs personality classifications, and can that information co-exist with FFM analysis? Thanks for the help.
FFM is too subjective, I take the test and found different result every time...
I certainly prefer MBTI, although I know they don't test for the same characteristics, and that psychologists tend to use the former, HR the latter (at least from my own experience)...
@@smartcatcollarproject5699 it's been a long time since your post but I went through a period of my life where I investigated my personality type and that included Myers-Briggs. I also found enneagrams to be very useful. You might also.
@@smartcatcollarproject5699 MBTI is not considered psychology. Even on their own website they make a disclaimer not to use it for diagnoses. The FFM is standard for therapy and psychology.
Shouldn't this correlate to longest lifespan and/or most offspring in order to reduce subjectivity? I would think too much open to experience gets one killed young, too much neuroticism leads one to suicide or cardiovascular issues, low agreeableness doesn't get you very far with the opposite gender, etc.
Long life doesn't matter as long as you reproduce. For example if you cut a swath through women having a half dozen children and die at 23 and those children grow to adulthood and reproduce then you're good.
I was going to ask you what your profile was. Thanks for sharing.
My personality, obviously.
Thanks Doctor Grande!
Sure you do
I imagine the optimal personality would differ at least slightly depending on the norms of the society at large.
Very informative. Now I am curious to know my own FFM profile. I have an idea but I would like to have a professional test conducted..
Thank for all you do Dr. Grande!
281k and counting...., so proud of you! 🌹
Empathy
Compassion
Healthy is not necessarily best either though. To think of all the neurotic open people who have contributed enormously to society.
Thanks for your great videos.
Are there any tools you would recommend to use to cover the areas that are not well covered by the FFM: authenticity, flexibility and insight?
Greacias amigo Todd
Why do I get the feeling you don't really need the acronym to remember the traits, lol
Anyway, great video and another insightful analysis.
To me, it sounds that the healthiest personality profile is the one the most adapted to the American culture. I wonder if it could vary from changes from culture to culture?
Dr. Grande, What do you think of the Humility factor in the new HEXACO model?
Surely the "best" or "optimal" personality from the perspective of a mental health expert differs to what a corporate CEO or a military leader might say.
Really easy on this one. Just be near the middle. Except for IQ & neuroticism. IQ be high and neuroticism be low.
The only normal people are the ones we don't know very well.
Great to know about healthy profiles.
The best personality profile for a politician: full on sociopathic machiavelian narcisist 😂😂
My lowest trait is Conscientiousness. My second-lowest trait is Neuroticism.
I don't care. Nor do I feel bad about it.
Godbless to your very insightful utube video🤓
Dr. Todd if you may, you can provide in your OCEAN ACROSTIC NEURO.... FOR a healthy personality in terms of neuro Science.
How we determine at least in your Academic Standard a Healthy personality in neuro aspect. Thank and Godbless.
Dr. Grande: "According to this article, the healthiest personality would be high in O., C., E. and A., and low in Neuroticism"
Me, a kid with generalized anxiety: Really high in O., mid-high in C., mid-high in E., high in A. Okay, seems like I'm fairly healthy. Then I check my Neuroticism and it's really high, lol
Normal people problems, I guess 🤷🏻♀️
Is there a way to increase the positive traits? I'd say I was leaning towards the healthier facets when I was younger (ie, I found value in agreeableness, warmth, I wasn't very neurotic etc) but after a period of intense emotional distress sustained over a period of years, I find I no longer have the energy or capability towards the healthier end that I once had. Help?
Interesting
4:00 begins
We need the healthiest people to be grandiose: so they can be noticed, and inspire the rest of us. *healthy person opens shirt to reveal an S, then flies off*
The FFM captures authenticity and insight, indirectly, but not in the most useful way.
Without these characteristics, it's unlikely that one's self-reported personality traits will be accurate.
If there were a way to compare someone's "real" traits with their FFM score, that would be rather interesting.
Hmmmmm, interesting. 94, 73, 85, 94, 17. Seems I should stop listening to others and get on with my own stuff.
It definitely differs from person to person. For me, I have openness 99th and conscientiousness 1st. I wouldn’t change this as it gives me an outlook that I’ve discovered is unique, and in my opinion, positively so. But, it’s describing extreme ADHD I have, so it almost impossible to work the boring stuff on my business without meds. Despite that, I can memorize a Beethoven sonata or write a book on any number of original thoughts I have in under a week due to those same traits. If I were paid for my ideas or my music, I would be extremely productive and that would be best, at least for my sake. But I’m not, not yet at least, so it’s very bad for me and I need to change my brain chemistry five days out of the week to counteract the traits and save their manifestations for when I have time to enjoy myself.
Could you please make a video on the (old Greek model of the) 4 temperaments and possible connections to the five factor model?
Is neuroticism associated with forehead size? Since the frontal cortex is responsible for gratification postponement & whatnot. Is the health & functionality of the FC even related to the visible size of the skull's forehead? I have a relatively small forehead & this is something I've been struggling with for almost 7 years now, I wanted to be completely logical & realistic in how I look at the world but my search for knowledge has gotten me into some sort of depressing inferiority complex where I can't see my personal value because there are people who have better tools than mine
Why do you always use the 5 factor model? Isn’t it a bit reductionist? Aren’t there other models suitable for different contexts?
I love these videos, but they frequently highlight the illusory distinction between science and philosophy. Science can't tell us what is "good", but it can tell us what is "healthy"?
All major questions of science are philosophical in nature. Whenever a scientist asks himself about the fundamentals of his discipline, he finds philosophy, whether he likes it or not. And those who never suffer from these issues are mediocre scientists
Create a test for healthy personalities and advertise on it? Spitballin
That's a good idea - I have thought about making a FFM-based test using the free items from the IPIP
@@DrGrande With your devotion to reliable information, I would recommend it easily. As I do your channel when asked by millennials on mental health. Great work 👍👍
@@DrGrande Great idea doc!!
I'm actually sure that there is a strong relationship between math skills and attractiveness... but it's inverse
Maybe one has to use graphics here
Your talk to us like we are stupid. We are not asking about scores. We are asking what is the best personality profile because we already know about the Big 5
What is your OCEAN profile?
100 E, 98 O, 96 A
54 C and 12 N. I am OK. I do really worry about my high scores. I score high in MBTI, ENF are all over 85 to 100. and Ennogram numbers are 90 too 100 too. 2w3
Should I be concerned?
how did u come to those numbers? Can u do a test? explain me how
U would make a good wife
@@privatprivat7279 That was the big 5. I know what the numbers mean now. MBTI is ENFP, with the percentages high numbers, that's all.
@@I_Ace lol
@@privatprivat7279 I will do any tests. I just found out my IQ is 98 percentile at 56 years old. I wished I knew this younger. I recently found my EQ is in the 99 percentile too. I even out did Dr, Phil, and scored 160. Then I did an hour EQ test, and scored 99 percentile. LOL. I just always thought I was street smart. Then with a perfect social and self awareness and management scores, I always thought I wastoo hyper vigilant.
Its weird how you don't really know how different you are compared to other people until you do these tests. I just always that I was just me.
ENFJ is the best.
Best in what aspect:)?
Mental health, emotional control, motivation, tendencies to balance rage with love and higher function on a network scale. :)
I dare you to do a personality profile on Jesus Christ. I think that would be very interesting.
So. basically, if you're an introvert, you're screwed :( That's why I don't like the 5-factor model
There is nothing wrong with introversion. See
Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can't Stop Talking Paperback - Jan 29 2013
by Susan Cain (Author)
If everyone was extroverted there would be no one to listen!