@@storm-bu4qbso causing the destruction of a whole planet involving people who never even knew Carol is justification for what the Kree did to her? what type of hero does that?
@@Sonnix07 yes, destroying an entire civilization including innocent people who knew nothing about Carol was cruel. But her resentment towards the supreme intelligence was justified. Plus she didn't anticipate or realize the outcome will be that gruesome and she admitted it herself. Imagine being kidnapped and having your memories extracted (almost like mental manipulation, abuse or torture) feels like gaslighting. It's not a good experience if you know what it feels like. It's a very cruel and traumatic experience you can't hold in for long cuz it can destroy the victim's soul. This is a case of Ying Yang (the good in the evil and the evil in the good)
@@Sonnix07 it's what storm said, and also Carol didn't cause the destruction of Hala *on purpose* . Her main objective was to weaken the Kree Empire and to destroy the Supreme Intelligence. The 30 year civil war + the destruction of their ecosystem + the death of their star were things she didn't predict, nor want. It's more like an anti-hero journey rather than a true hero or villain one.
Always appreciate seeing an analysis that does it's best to not be biased against a stellar character. Carol, throughout the comics, tends to struggle less with physical defeats and more with mental defeats and ptsd, which often lead her to using her incredible power in ways that often have collateral damage. These stories though, are what give her character strength and her arcs meaning. This was central in both films she was a lead in, whether well done or not can be debated sure, but it was there. In the version of the time line you propose, I could see this being the central theme of her character in a better way than we see in the MCU. Some of Carol's most powerful moments come from these cosmic and moral dilemmas (the death of Singularity, the death of Binary, her escaping the Brood, her fighting the Phoenix Force, ect). If we had a more cosmic setting, I'm sure we could have explored these sort of things better. The Kree an Shiar are super important to the M'kraan crystal right? Which would be a great way to introduce the Phoenix Force and thus Jean Grey and the mutants. Plus Rouge, Nova, and many others are central to space stories involving her. It'd be a fantastic what if episode. I'm always haply to see Carol on screen, let's just hope these future outings will be better. Though I doubt the hate will truly ever stop.
30 years passed on earth but carol flying around the galaxy at light speed doesnt experience time like we do due to reletivity. Depending on the distance from earth and gravity. Hours or days for her could be years on earth. Hence why she hasn't really aged in 30 years
@@devanirnf she can surely travel at light speed as shown in her first movie and in endgame when she save Tony and even in The Marvels but she own a space ship so she can use it to travel i mean when you got a space ship why would you waste your energy flying all the time just laid in bed and let the space ship do that😂
Great video. Now I’m wondering if Carol and her team stopped Thanos early on in his crusade then Loki never ends up on earth, never gets captured, never escapes using the Tesseract then never ends up in the TVA, no meeting Kang, no spaghettified Timely, Loki doesn’t replace the Loom.. Then maybe Spider-Man is the one who causes all the Multiversal madness in the 161. Or maybe not since the only reason he knows Doctor Strange is that they fought together against Thanos so would that mean we would avoid the Multiversal shitshow all together. Or maybe not..I dunno.. my head hurts.😂
I like the little reference to the Kree Enperor in Hardians of the Galaxy Vol.1 and how he ratified the peace treaty with the Nova Empire that caused Ronan to defect and join Thanos.
The thing is, people act like she just attacked the Kree once when she destroyed the Sumpreme Intelligence and that was it. But she was at war with them for years. They *used to have* a huge empire, emphasis on used to. And even if they didn't show it in The Marvels, she fought them in most of the Large Magellanic Cloud until they were no longer a big empire. Some mention would have been great. But that's an issue a lot of MCU projects have. So much secretism doesn't allow small details like these to be developed (until they need to be used in a project).
I’ve always wondered how the Kree Emperor rose to power as he’s specifically referred to as the successor to the Supreme Intelligence before being replaced by Dar-Ben after the end of their Civil War.
@@ForestRaptor Well, and also, it would run into the same issue that the Guardians have with Thor at the start of _Thor: Love and Thunder_ - Carol is much more powerful than any of the Guardians.
Another great video Ryan, but you are forgetting with all this said, Vision's comments about avengers creating opposition and Thor saying if earth has the tesseract it signals earth is ready for a higher level of warfare
Vision's comments about the Avengers creating opposition were mostly nonsense though. While Earth did face higher and higher stakes since Iron Man revealed himself, Iron Man didn't cause Loki to invade in _Thor_ or _The Avengers._ The Avengers also didn't cause the return of HYDRA; that plan had been in the works for decades.
Still don’t understand how Carol destroying the central intelligence would cause their sun to burn out 30 years later. Pretty sure the sun would have done that regardless… not to mention why couldn’t all the Skrulls move to that planet the emperor’s colony was on!?
I theories that the Supreme Intelligence would have altered the Kree about the dying sun so they could have either evacuated or come up with a solution. The Supreme Intelligence could have also come up with a solution itself (or at least played an important part in coming up with a solution).
Even though Ryan is right about Danvers not making good decisions. The Kree and the Skrull societies have similar behavior as humans. They both have good and evil citizens. Even if the Kree had a strong empire, their kingdom was destined to collapse eventually. The Skrulls that were on earth rebelled against humans not because they were misstreated, but because they had an ability humans didn't. And they saw an opportunity to take over the planet. All I'm saying is that all these events would've have happened regardless
@@miltonmejia4242true but it all stems from her taking bad decisions upon bad decisions. Sure those things would have happened but definitely not to the extent they got to
@@leeregno I was hoping to see a scene in the marvels where half of the skrulls and kree get vanished by the blip. I'm sure that played a big part in their internal conflicts too. I can just imagine Thanos going to those planets. That is if he hadn't already
The Supreme intelligence being destroyed threw the Kree into a civil war and I think we are to assume that the war, either through maybe some sort of technological firepower pollution or one of the sides in the Civil War literally destroyed the sun, that it was the war itself that destroyed their sun. Like maybe they used space nukes or something during the war and destroyed their climate and that affected their sun somehow.
Nitpick, the main villain, it's difficult to be afraid of her when she looks cute trying to look bad. As for the Nova Corps, when Quill gave the power stone, maybe they tried to make their own Captain Marvel but using multiple individuals to be empowered by it instead of just one. At some point Carol could had made contact with the Nova Corps and they learned how she was changed by the Tesseract and tried to duplicate the conditions for that power up but using multiple ppl as individuals tend to blow up like Ronan.
1) Danvers wasn't the only hero. The Nova Corps were busy playing police while Danvers was playing vigilante, and the Kree had their own heroes, even during their civil war. It should be noted that space was pretty safe and encounters with groups like the Ravagers or even Thanos were pretty rare. [Thanos, BTW, had been at the conquering business for decades prior to Danvers joining the Kree. He just hadn't found the first of Infinity Gems yet.] 2) Danvers didn't want to reform the Kree empire; she just wanted revenge. For that matter, her leading some sort of Galactic league is sort of a joke: She was never a leader in the MCU, preferring to either take orders or be completely on her own. 3) The Red Guardian would have been a better selection than Bucky. Valkyrie was also new to Sakar; it's unlikely she had been there more than a decade or two. Keep in mind also that the Back Panther is a legacy character. Hulk had also been around for a bit. So, if Fury had put it all the pieces together faster, and had realized that Wakanda had sleeper agents throughout the world, he could have put together an 1990s team from Red Guardian, ant Man/Wasp (the Pyms), and Black Panther (T'Challa's Dad), with Thor, Valkyrie, and a Black Widow being options, as well as various members of the Eternals. This ignores the Inhumans and any "enhanced beings" from the pre-Coulson days of SHIELD.
Yeah, I agree that if Carol had managed to unite the galaxy by a campaign of nation building and diplomacy over decades, it might ultimately do more good, but that's not exactly her skill set. She had the confidence and headfirst attitude to solving problems that the US Air Force trains into their fighter test pilots. Strategic thinking and leadership was what she was learning in The Marvels. It's hard to imagine who could have the capacity to set up a a new galactic government while massively changing the culture of billions of groups. And then using the Kree to enforce the peace...the same people who had conquered 25% of the galaxy by force. To reference West Wing, it's like saying "they don't know what's good for them, but they'll like us when we win."
Exactly i keep explaining this time and time again on why Thanos should have won in Infinity War and that it's why Strange didn't use sling ring on Thanos
Carol always came off as overconfident and never consider the consequences of her actions. Carol's arrogance and actions causing more problems is very much equal to Iron Man, creating Ultron and many other problems.
Tom’s peter and his aunt May were completely wrong 😑. All he needed to do was send them back. And she needed to be quiet. Not because of anything political but because she was wrong and she chose the wrong time to be an actual parent. It wasn’t selfish for him to send them back. And only two of them died.
To be fair it probably would take some time for Captain Marvel to get the lay of the galactic political landscape, and by the mid 1990’s she hadn’t been a super hero very long. A bunch of the time she was a super powered being she was brainwashed. I think she destroyed the Supreme Intelligence out of anger and totally neglected to think about the consequences of her actions.
I think this makes most sense, people always make stupid arguments against Captain Marvel saying stuff like she sucks, she has no facial expressions at all but most of he first movie she is literally under mind control and thinks she is someone who she isn't and when she realizes who she is a completely different person
Hi Ryan, any updates on the Doug plushes? Had no emails updating us and think they are supposed to be delivered next month or so (I'm UK based). Super excited to have a little Doug buddy!
Found refuge, not refugee. A refugee is an individual whereas refuge is something one or many can seek. An overpay in a rainstorm is refuge from the elements for example. Whether it's for one person or a group.
i think the ancient one would win. carol is basically just a puncher and blaster type character. things the ancient one probably has spells for. plus she could trap her in a mirror dimension or something like that. would be a cool what if episode tho
This might not be a thing. But did anyone notice in The Marvel's that Darbin could breath while on MB-418. BUT The Cree on Hala can't breath and need Darbin to steal another planet's air? Mind you, MB-418 didn't have an atmosphere. Maybe I missed something?
For what I know, the Kree should've been affected by the snap, and they owe Carol (and the Avengers, in general), the restoration of those snapped kree. They totally could go to another planet.
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My 2 cents: CM was supposed to be released in 2016 but because the opportunity/deal MCU made with Sony about Spiderman it got not just delayed but in reality felt from relevance. It’s well known a post credit scene in the first avengers movie that would feature CM. Then again once Feige got hands on Spiderman everything about lost focus. The first movie back in 2019 IMHO looked as it belonged to “another idea/plan”( maybe the original) about Infinity Stones. That’s maybe because even Rona was there. But in 2019 , Avengers had ALREADY MOVED PAST CAROL DANVERS, and her place in the MCU never felt natural, logical or relevant. What kinda of people from the military would abandon Earth after the events of Infinity War and the Blip. To make matters worst MCU came up with this very nonsensical “sun killing” plot. The problem is that event described in The Marvels does not fit with the spacial/galactic side of the MCU , set with the GOG movies, Thanos and Avengers movies. Ronan’s motivation on the first GOG movie would be way too diferente; Secret Invasion made canon Skrull still did not had a place to live and were coming to Earth in millions during the Blip. The Marvels plot does fit it. And the movie sucks because of it.
Did you notice the visual parallel between Captain Marvel flying into the Supreme intelligence building and the first plane hitting the World Trade Center? In both cases the event catalyzed an empire to destroy itself, not merely through destabilizing an existing order and setting rival factions into conflict but also by setting them on a path of ever more desperate violence and cruelty. The Kree still haven't accepted that their time as top dog is over. The same is true of the US, now irrelevant to most of the world, but still causing untold damage as its factions plot destructive paths back to prestige they'll never attain again. Neither is actually redeemed, both are still a danger to the world around them.
Danvers said in End Game that many other things are happening in the universe after snap. We still have no full knowlege of what happened after she defeated the sepreme intelligence. In fact, how do we know she didn't encountered Thanos before?
What a peaceful universe, without Earth. If Thanos never snaps the population of Earth hits the threshold before Ajak has a change of heart and Earth is destroyed when Tiamat is born.
The whole, “Carol did this and she destroyed Supreme Intelligence, there was a civil war and then the sun went out.” It is like, not only did they jump the shark; it doesn’t even make any sense. Or did Carol also do something to the sun, but they forgot to include that in the movie? How did she “restart” it? Put back something she took out of it? Otherwise, how would a civil war turn their star off? They forgot to pay the electric bill?
The writer as they pandered to the Bit off more than they could crew. They made a Peggy Sue a Uber insanely powerful version of Captian Mar-vel . Carol could have formed a galactic team to alter the history of the multi-verse..
You're one of my favorites UA-camrs. I used to binge watch your Easter eggs videos, your theory videos, etc, but maybe what I'm about to complain isn't too much of your fault. Maybe it's the lack of shows being aired, maybe it's this platform fault for constantly changing it's algorithm, but it hurts to see such a talented writer/UA-camr/presenter and much more falling for cheap clickbaits, like "CAPTAIN MARVEL WAS WRONG!", "SPIDERMAN NO WAY HOME WAS THE WORST OF THEM ALL", among others. I'm able to understand different points of views, but this is so out of place for what you made of yourself these years prior that I can't believe you actually mean what you say in your thumbnails. Please, stop from following this trail of hard-to-believe thumbnails....
- The best thing that Carol Danvers ever done was give Rogue super strength, durability and flight. Thanks Carol Danvers for making one of the best X-Men better. Sidenote that would be a great if MCU Rogue syphoned Captain Marvel powers for her to gain and also nerfing Carol to her normal comicbook levels.
Carol was a pilot & a warrior (hero). You want her to be a politician and governmental strategist. Those are not necessarily overlapping skillsets. Why people think they can rule just because they can punch is crazy
The Evil Ai turned out to be right as the Skrull showed who they really are when they tried to take tried to take over earth. Many of the skrull talked about how they used to be war mongers at one point before they where defeated.
Maybe captain marvel was always a planet or two behind thanos. Let’s pretend she heard about thanos. But not after the first half genocide but maybe the tenth. So she would be ten planets behind thanos showing up after staying to help and falling further behind. She got a break with earth. That’s being generous to her of course
marvel makes a woman with all that power and ultimately it's iron man who scarifies himself. Just shows how confused they are. All that time she was in space when thanos was halving civilizations
The biggest flaw with the MCU captain marvel is that she isn’t a hero she’s a soldier that doesn’t respect authority. She doesn’t inspire people,everyone is just in awe of her overwhelming power.
My personal opinion.. if Captain Marvel had been an Amazing Savior of The Kree, The Skrull and had stopped Thanos … a lot of the events wouldn’t have happened and … the MCU would had to find other villains to fill their places. Also in reality that’s not really how powerful people act … they only involve themselves in smaller causes.
In Avengers: Endgame there is a glaring error on Captain Marvel's part in the final battle. Marvel is flying around with the Infinity Gauntlet IN HER HANDS, fer Christ's sake! As soon as she took it from Peter she should have said, "Oh, well, we just won!" She would slip it on and wish Thanos and his gang away. She HAD to know what it was and was certainly strong enough to use it without getting hurt. Also, she's brave enough to use it even if she thought it would kill her. There are ZERO reasons why she wouldn't have used it to save the day. They should have had anyone else take the Gauntlet from Peter.
When the The Marvels showed Captain Marvel killed the Supreme Intelligence & didn’t follow up. I thought, “Oh that’s not gonna bite someone in the butt.”
I mean, when you destabalize a whole empire by taking off the head, you kinda get that trauma added to your baggage and might not jump at next chance to "go for the head" again. That's my headcannon for not dealing directly with Thanos and with other entities. She deals with the consequences now and is focused on attempting to prevent more death when disasters are happening. She isn't healing, she is jumping from one problem to the next until she gets an SOS from Nick Fury which reconnects her with Earth again (which she has been avoiding so hard, using every excuse possible). The very definition avoid avoidance. So during Infinity War, her focus is entirely on Thanos because of the whole SNAP. After that though, she goes back into space, comes back and contacts earth on a more regular schedule but avoids the Rambeau because existential guilt and trauma. When the random teleporting gets in the way of her avoidance jumping from one problem to the next she is forced to face and VOICE her issues for the first time in decades. Her "healing" was badly portrayed and should have been a lot more deserved rather than "one off conversations that solves the topic" but it still happened in a way. ALL OF THIS, I don't mind the 30 years :p
Wanda, Carole and she hulk are all basically villains even of their own stories. Nothing about them is inspiring…hell Photon basically justifies Wanda taking an entire town (including children) hostage. How tf are we supposed to champion terrorists? Iron man messed up with ultron but at least tried to atone for his actions and died for the universe. Nothing about those three feels heroic, their mistakes lead to more entitlement and more mistakes.
@@PredsjednikGustavo._Loki started out a villain. Thor's action was also treated as a negative. Wanda, Carol and Jennifer were treated as positive. This is why I prefer Wanda in MoM.
I think Captain Marvel could have a more compelling story and The Marvels could be used for that to tell this story, but Marvel Studios is more focused on agenda and telling stories for the sake of IP and franchise coz of Young Avengers and X-Men (through the post credits)
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Thumbs down for Ryan "Takes too much meth" Arey and his terribad fanfic.
"You can't just give people free will and then walk away, that's not how it works" - Loki
I don’t remember this quote, but it’s certainly correct.
The issue is that Danvers was not trying to free the Kree, she was getting revenge on the Supreme Intelligence for kidnapping her.
Bingo. It wasn’t anything else. lol The Marvels film Is in no shape confusing It just isn’t good…
Which is somewhat justified
@@storm-bu4qbso causing the destruction of a whole planet involving people who never even knew Carol is justification for what the Kree did to her? what type of hero does that?
@@Sonnix07 yes, destroying an entire civilization including innocent people who knew nothing about Carol was cruel. But her resentment towards the supreme intelligence was justified. Plus she didn't anticipate or realize the outcome will be that gruesome and she admitted it herself. Imagine being kidnapped and having your memories extracted (almost like mental manipulation, abuse or torture) feels like gaslighting. It's not a good experience if you know what it feels like. It's a very cruel and traumatic experience you can't hold in for long cuz it can destroy the victim's soul. This is a case of Ying Yang (the good in the evil and the evil in the good)
@@Sonnix07 it's what storm said, and also Carol didn't cause the destruction of Hala *on purpose* . Her main objective was to weaken the Kree Empire and to destroy the Supreme Intelligence. The 30 year civil war + the destruction of their ecosystem + the death of their star were things she didn't predict, nor want. It's more like an anti-hero journey rather than a true hero or villain one.
It’s like when Rick & Morty ended The Purge, only for the planet’s people to start murdering each other all over again
Always appreciate seeing an analysis that does it's best to not be biased against a stellar character.
Carol, throughout the comics, tends to struggle less with physical defeats and more with mental defeats and ptsd, which often lead her to using her incredible power in ways that often have collateral damage. These stories though, are what give her character strength and her arcs meaning. This was central in both films she was a lead in, whether well done or not can be debated sure, but it was there. In the version of the time line you propose, I could see this being the central theme of her character in a better way than we see in the MCU. Some of Carol's most powerful moments come from these cosmic and moral dilemmas (the death of Singularity, the death of Binary, her escaping the Brood, her fighting the Phoenix Force, ect). If we had a more cosmic setting, I'm sure we could have explored these sort of things better. The Kree an Shiar are super important to the M'kraan crystal right? Which would be a great way to introduce the Phoenix Force and thus Jean Grey and the mutants. Plus Rouge, Nova, and many others are central to space stories involving her. It'd be a fantastic what if episode.
I'm always haply to see Carol on screen, let's just hope these future outings will be better. Though I doubt the hate will truly ever stop.
30 years passed on earth but carol flying around the galaxy at light speed doesnt experience time like we do due to reletivity. Depending on the distance from earth and gravity. Hours or days for her could be years on earth. Hence why she hasn't really aged in 30 years
dar-benn didn't age either. i think it's mostly a kree thing.
She does not travel so fast. She uses the Universal Neural Teleportation Network.
@@devanirnf she can surely travel at light speed as shown in her first movie and in endgame when she save Tony and even in The Marvels but she own a space ship so she can use it to travel i mean when you got a space ship why would you waste your energy flying all the time just laid in bed and let the space ship do that😂
Great video. Now I’m wondering if Carol and her team stopped Thanos early on in his crusade then Loki never ends up on earth, never gets captured, never escapes using the Tesseract then never ends up in the TVA, no meeting Kang, no spaghettified Timely, Loki doesn’t replace the Loom.. Then maybe Spider-Man is the one who causes all the Multiversal madness in the 161. Or maybe not since the only reason he knows Doctor Strange is that they fought together against Thanos so would that mean we would avoid the Multiversal shitshow all together. Or maybe not..I dunno.. my head hurts.😂
This version of Carol couldn't lead a three person team and you want her to lead a Galactic Federation?
...and then Annihilus shows up. "Who said my name three times?!?!?" 🤪
I like the little reference to the Kree Enperor in Hardians of the Galaxy Vol.1 and how he ratified the peace treaty with the Nova Empire that caused Ronan to defect and join Thanos.
0:14 That's Airwalks, and yes, I was. lol.
The thing is, people act like she just attacked the Kree once when she destroyed the Sumpreme Intelligence and that was it. But she was at war with them for years. They *used to have* a huge empire, emphasis on used to. And even if they didn't show it in The Marvels, she fought them in most of the Large Magellanic Cloud until they were no longer a big empire. Some mention would have been great. But that's an issue a lot of MCU projects have. So much secretism doesn't allow small details like these to be developed (until they need to be used in a project).
true
I’ve always wondered how the Kree Emperor rose to power as he’s specifically referred to as the successor to the Supreme Intelligence before being replaced by Dar-Ben after the end of their Civil War.
Captain Marvel didn't even try to help the Guardians of the Galaxy since she's in space!
The issue is getting her number and enough of her attention.
There’s a lot of planets in the galaxy lol
@@ForestRaptor Well, and also, it would run into the same issue that the Guardians have with Thor at the start of _Thor: Love and Thunder_ - Carol is much more powerful than any of the Guardians.
If you have Carol, you don´t need the Guardians, the same with Thor
Another great video Ryan, but you are forgetting with all this said, Vision's comments about avengers creating opposition and Thor saying if earth has the tesseract it signals earth is ready for a higher level of warfare
Vision's comments about the Avengers creating opposition were mostly nonsense though. While Earth did face higher and higher stakes since Iron Man revealed himself, Iron Man didn't cause Loki to invade in _Thor_ or _The Avengers._ The Avengers also didn't cause the return of HYDRA; that plan had been in the works for decades.
Pavel is giving Colton a run for his money with these recent videos
That's the weirdest looking Southpark episode I've ever seen. Wonder if it's an early episode😂
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Tony tried creating something to protect the galaxy, it was called Ultron.
Too little MCU fans talk of Carol's wrongs. She don't get to tell Rhodey she was busy if the universe got halved anyway.
I am SO glad I wasn't drinking water, when you said "President Potato Head".
Still don’t understand how Carol destroying the central intelligence would cause their sun to burn out 30 years later. Pretty sure the sun would have done that regardless… not to mention why couldn’t all the Skrulls move to that planet the emperor’s colony was on!?
I theories that the Supreme Intelligence would have altered the Kree about the dying sun so they could have either evacuated or come up with a solution.
The Supreme Intelligence could have also come up with a solution itself (or at least played an important part in coming up with a solution).
Even though Ryan is right about Danvers not making good decisions. The Kree and the Skrull societies have similar behavior as humans. They both have good and evil citizens. Even if the Kree had a strong empire, their kingdom was destined to collapse eventually. The Skrulls that were on earth rebelled against humans not because they were misstreated, but because they had an ability humans didn't. And they saw an opportunity to take over the planet. All I'm saying is that all these events would've have happened regardless
@@miltonmejia4242true but it all stems from her taking bad decisions upon bad decisions. Sure those things would have happened but definitely not to the extent they got to
@@leeregno I was hoping to see a scene in the marvels where half of the skrulls and kree get vanished by the blip. I'm sure that played a big part in their internal conflicts too. I can just imagine Thanos going to those planets. That is if he hadn't already
The Supreme intelligence being destroyed threw the Kree into a civil war and I think we are to assume that the war, either through maybe some sort of technological firepower pollution or one of the sides in the Civil War literally destroyed the sun, that it was the war itself that destroyed their sun. Like maybe they used space nukes or something during the war and destroyed their climate and that affected their sun somehow.
This video made me feel better. Screencrush always helps me when im upset 😊
Whats a heros with endless powers worst fear. A problem they cant punch out of.
Actually it is all Yon-Roggs fault for taking Carol back to Hala with him.
“Airwalkers” 😂😂😂😂
Looking forward to the MCU being good again someday. At least I hope so. Some tough times ahead for this channel until it is.
"Alpha Flight... It's like SHIELD in space."
"You mean, SWORD?"
"..... Deeeeper space."
Nitpick, the main villain, it's difficult to be afraid of her when she looks cute trying to look bad. As for the Nova Corps, when Quill gave the power stone, maybe they tried to make their own Captain Marvel but using multiple individuals to be empowered by it instead of just one. At some point Carol could had made contact with the Nova Corps and they learned how she was changed by the Tesseract and tried to duplicate the conditions for that power up but using multiple ppl as individuals tend to blow up like Ronan.
It's not a nitpick; it's a major flaw of the movie. The villain never really looked dangerous or menacing
1) Danvers wasn't the only hero. The Nova Corps were busy playing police while Danvers was playing vigilante, and the Kree had their own heroes, even during their civil war. It should be noted that space was pretty safe and encounters with groups like the Ravagers or even Thanos were pretty rare.
[Thanos, BTW, had been at the conquering business for decades prior to Danvers joining the Kree. He just hadn't found the first of Infinity Gems yet.]
2) Danvers didn't want to reform the Kree empire; she just wanted revenge. For that matter, her leading some sort of Galactic league is sort of a joke: She was never a leader in the MCU, preferring to either take orders or be completely on her own.
3) The Red Guardian would have been a better selection than Bucky. Valkyrie was also new to Sakar; it's unlikely she had been there more than a decade or two. Keep in mind also that the Back Panther is a legacy character. Hulk had also been around for a bit.
So, if Fury had put it all the pieces together faster, and had realized that Wakanda had sleeper agents throughout the world, he could have put together an 1990s team from Red Guardian, ant Man/Wasp (the Pyms), and Black Panther (T'Challa's Dad), with Thor, Valkyrie, and a Black Widow being options, as well as various members of the Eternals.
This ignores the Inhumans and any "enhanced beings" from the pre-Coulson days of SHIELD.
Dang this is in-depth knowledge! Good video 👍
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Yeah, I agree that if Carol had managed to unite the galaxy by a campaign of nation building and diplomacy over decades, it might ultimately do more good, but that's not exactly her skill set. She had the confidence and headfirst attitude to solving problems that the US Air Force trains into their fighter test pilots. Strategic thinking and leadership was what she was learning in The Marvels. It's hard to imagine who could have the capacity to set up a a new galactic government while massively changing the culture of billions of groups. And then using the Kree to enforce the peace...the same people who had conquered 25% of the galaxy by force. To reference West Wing, it's like saying "they don't know what's good for them, but they'll like us when we win."
if Thanos is stopped earlier, then maybe Ajak never has a change of heart, the Eternals continue their mission, and Tiamat destroys the earth?
Yes 100% Thanos is like Loki. Bringing heroes and people together for the common good.
Exactly i keep explaining this time and time again on why Thanos should have won in Infinity War and that it's why Strange didn't use sling ring on Thanos
exactly
Yeah I actually generally like Carol but hey it is big MCU theme to do something good that has unintended consequences that lead to disaster.
Carol is so much better in the comics.
Carol always came off as overconfident and never consider the consequences of her actions. Carol's arrogance and actions causing more problems is very much equal to Iron Man, creating Ultron and many other problems.
Love the necessary points you raised that can very well be applied to world issues happening right now in real life.
Traveling throw space need a lot of time... if only someone have teleporting powers ... Like every magic user in MCU or Heimdall ...
8:50 “president potato head” 😂😂😂😂😂 I don’t condone hate comments but 😂😂😂😂 that’s so funny 😭
I really wish Capt Marvel had better writers
What other heroes were wrong?
Tom’s peter and his aunt May were completely wrong 😑. All he needed to do was send them back. And she needed to be quiet. Not because of anything political but because she was wrong and she chose the wrong time to be an actual parent. It wasn’t selfish for him to send them back. And only two of them died.
Peter in No Way Home. The most naive hero yet. After all he's being through you would think he is smart.
Peter quill hitting Thanos in infinity war
Yo nice video
Why would you label that clip from the simpsons as South Park?
That's a pretty interesting way to look at Captain Marvel's character. But this probably would work better as a What If though.
What about the Eternals, Namor, the Ancient One, Wen Wu they were all active in the past
To be fair it probably would take some time for Captain Marvel to get the lay of the galactic political landscape, and by the mid 1990’s she hadn’t been a super hero very long. A bunch of the time she was a super powered being she was brainwashed. I think she destroyed the Supreme Intelligence out of anger and totally neglected to think about the consequences of her actions.
I think this makes most sense, people always make stupid arguments against Captain Marvel saying stuff like she sucks, she has no facial expressions at all but most of he first movie she is literally under mind control and thinks she is someone who she isn't and when she realizes who she is a completely different person
Hi Ryan, any updates on the Doug plushes? Had no emails updating us and think they are supposed to be delivered next month or so (I'm UK based). Super excited to have a little Doug buddy!
3:54 I never knew, Barney had a cameo in Southpark...
I really wish you guys were writing for the MCU
Found refuge, not refugee. A refugee is an individual whereas refuge is something one or many can seek. An overpay in a rainstorm is refuge from the elements for example. Whether it's for one person or a group.
Good one 👍👍
Who would win if captain marvel fight against ancient one?
i think the ancient one would win. carol is basically just a puncher and blaster type character. things the ancient one probably has spells for. plus she could trap her in a mirror dimension or something like that. would be a cool what if episode tho
@jettysfuneral depends on if the ancient one decides to warp reality
I found out that Secret invasion was supposed to be after The Marvels-which makes infinitely more sense
We all know she didn't beat Thanos because they nerfed her so Tony would be the hero.
This is a BBBBIIIIIGGGGGG what if. It forgets how pissed off Carol was at the Kree for stealing her life. She want nothing to do with these creeps.
It be crazy if the other skrulls come to earth from captain marvel 2 and have a secret invasion 2 and fix the series
why was the Spock and Barney scene get credited as a South Park Episode lmfao 😂
This might not be a thing. But did anyone notice in The Marvel's that Darbin could breath while on MB-418. BUT The Cree on Hala can't breath and need Darbin to steal another planet's air? Mind you, MB-418 didn't have an atmosphere. Maybe I missed something?
I wish the supreme intelligence was the villain for the whole movie.
For what I know, the Kree should've been affected by the snap, and they owe Carol (and the Avengers, in general), the restoration of those snapped kree.
They totally could go to another planet.
Sounds like Captain Marvel needed an Uncle Ben.😂
And intriguing concept!
It’s weird watching this upload through the lens of 20+ years of American interventionism.
What’s the difference between cologne and perfume?? I moved to the states for college they told me don’t use “ perfume “ to describe a “male perfume” and use cologne instead. Is this still valid ? Because I feel cologne is a scent of a perfume in general. And sometimes men use perfume which is not cologne.. let’s say leather and tobacco or Oud. They said perfume is referred female only. I didn’t skip this ad
My 2 cents: CM was supposed to be released in 2016 but because the opportunity/deal MCU made with Sony about Spiderman it got not just delayed but in reality felt from relevance. It’s well known a post credit scene in the first avengers movie that would feature CM. Then again once Feige got hands on Spiderman everything about lost focus. The first movie back in 2019 IMHO looked as it belonged to “another idea/plan”( maybe the original) about Infinity Stones. That’s maybe because even Rona was there. But in 2019 , Avengers had ALREADY MOVED PAST CAROL DANVERS, and her place in the MCU never felt natural, logical or relevant. What kinda of people from the military would abandon Earth after the events of Infinity War and the Blip.
To make matters worst MCU came up with this very nonsensical “sun killing” plot. The problem is that event described in The Marvels does not fit with the spacial/galactic side of the MCU , set with the GOG movies, Thanos and Avengers movies. Ronan’s motivation on the first GOG movie would be way too diferente; Secret Invasion made canon Skrull still did not had a place to live and were coming to Earth in millions during the Blip. The Marvels plot does fit it. And the movie sucks because of it.
As the saying goes: it’s easy to blow up a train. It’s harder to make it run on time.
Wouldn’t this mean Hydra gets to spread throughout the galaxy b/c they’d still be operating via SHIELD
Did you notice the visual parallel between Captain Marvel flying into the Supreme intelligence building and the first plane hitting the World Trade Center?
In both cases the event catalyzed an empire to destroy itself, not merely through destabilizing an existing order and setting rival factions into conflict but also by setting them on a path of ever more desperate violence and cruelty.
The Kree still haven't accepted that their time as top dog is over. The same is true of the US, now irrelevant to most of the world, but still causing untold damage as its factions plot destructive paths back to prestige they'll never attain again. Neither is actually redeemed, both are still a danger to the world around them.
Pretty sure she wasn’t wrong she just was late and then got decked
Danvers said in End Game that many other things are happening in the universe after snap. We still have no full knowlege of what happened after she defeated the sepreme intelligence. In fact, how do we know she didn't encountered Thanos before?
What a peaceful universe, without Earth. If Thanos never snaps the population of Earth hits the threshold before Ajak has a change of heart and Earth is destroyed when Tiamat is born.
Just like the real world would be a lot more peaceful without Amerikkka and Is a hell.
Why do aliens always look like humans with just makeup? What is this, the 80's?
Chef's kills for the snippet from Generation Kill!
This is what I like to see
The whole, “Carol did this and she destroyed Supreme Intelligence, there was a civil war and then the sun went out.”
It is like, not only did they jump the shark; it doesn’t even make any sense.
Or did Carol also do something to the sun, but they forgot to include that in the movie? How did she “restart” it? Put back something she took out of it?
Otherwise, how would a civil war turn their star off? They forgot to pay the electric bill?
SWORD was founded by Maria Rambeau, Monica's mother...
The writer as they pandered to the
Bit off more than they could crew. They made a Peggy Sue a Uber insanely powerful version of Captian Mar-vel . Carol could have formed a galactic team to alter the history of the multi-verse..
You're one of my favorites UA-camrs. I used to binge watch your Easter eggs videos, your theory videos, etc, but maybe what I'm about to complain isn't too much of your fault. Maybe it's the lack of shows being aired, maybe it's this platform fault for constantly changing it's algorithm, but it hurts to see such a talented writer/UA-camr/presenter and much more falling for cheap clickbaits, like "CAPTAIN MARVEL WAS WRONG!", "SPIDERMAN NO WAY HOME WAS THE WORST OF THEM ALL", among others. I'm able to understand different points of views, but this is so out of place for what you made of yourself these years prior that I can't believe you actually mean what you say in your thumbnails. Please, stop from following this trail of hard-to-believe thumbnails....
if this happens we cannot see epic endgame battle ,infinity war thor scene ,cap lifting mjolnir etc
3:55 south park (1997)?
Right?
- The best thing that Carol Danvers ever done was give Rogue super strength, durability and flight. Thanks Carol Danvers for making one of the best X-Men better. Sidenote that would be a great if MCU Rogue syphoned Captain Marvel powers for her to gain and also nerfing Carol to her normal comicbook levels.
Carol was a pilot & a warrior (hero). You want her to be a politician and governmental strategist. Those are not necessarily overlapping skillsets. Why people think they can rule just because they can punch is crazy
The Evil Ai turned out to be right as the Skrull showed who they really are when they tried to take tried to take over earth. Many of the skrull talked about how they used to be war mongers at one point before they where defeated.
love how a lot of the MCU heroes are the real villains lol
I wish they kept carols helmet on more. She looks great with it.
Maybe captain marvel was always a planet or two behind thanos. Let’s pretend she heard about thanos. But not after the first half genocide but maybe the tenth. So she would be ten planets behind thanos showing up after staying to help and falling further behind. She got a break with earth. That’s being generous to her of course
Airwalkers? Airwalks
3:56 says it South Park but it’s the Simpson
marvel makes a woman with all that power and ultimately it's iron man who scarifies himself. Just shows how confused they are. All that time she was in space when thanos was halving civilizations
The biggest flaw with the MCU captain marvel is that she isn’t a hero she’s a soldier that doesn’t respect authority. She doesn’t inspire people,everyone is just in awe of her overwhelming power.
My personal opinion.. if Captain Marvel had been an Amazing Savior of The Kree, The Skrull and had stopped Thanos … a lot of the events wouldn’t have happened and … the MCU would had to find other villains to fill their places. Also in reality that’s not really how powerful people act … they only involve themselves in smaller causes.
In Avengers: Endgame there is a glaring error on Captain Marvel's part in the final battle. Marvel is flying around with the Infinity Gauntlet IN HER HANDS, fer Christ's sake! As soon as she took it from Peter she should have said, "Oh, well, we just won!" She would slip it on and wish Thanos and his gang away. She HAD to know what it was and was certainly strong enough to use it without getting hurt. Also, she's brave enough to use it even if she thought it would kill her. There are ZERO reasons why she wouldn't have used it to save the day. They should have had anyone else take the Gauntlet from Peter.
if only there was some sort of organization that fought against the Kree she could have helped become the Force you were talking about.
When the The Marvels showed Captain Marvel killed the Supreme Intelligence & didn’t follow up. I thought, “Oh that’s not gonna bite someone in the butt.”
You forgot about the Eternals
No Thanos no blip
I mean, when you destabalize a whole empire by taking off the head, you kinda get that trauma added to your baggage and might not jump at next chance to "go for the head" again.
That's my headcannon for not dealing directly with Thanos and with other entities. She deals with the consequences now and is focused on attempting to prevent more death when disasters are happening. She isn't healing, she is jumping from one problem to the next until she gets an SOS from Nick Fury which reconnects her with Earth again (which she has been avoiding so hard, using every excuse possible). The very definition avoid avoidance.
So during Infinity War, her focus is entirely on Thanos because of the whole SNAP. After that though, she goes back into space, comes back and contacts earth on a more regular schedule but avoids the Rambeau because existential guilt and trauma. When the random teleporting gets in the way of her avoidance jumping from one problem to the next she is forced to face and VOICE her issues for the first time in decades. Her "healing" was badly portrayed and should have been a lot more deserved rather than "one off conversations that solves the topic" but it still happened in a way.
ALL OF THIS, I don't mind the 30 years :p
Ryan you realize she couldve destroyed the Kree Universe star system not Earth's...
Airwalkers?? Get it together, Ryan
Did you ever explain why Thanos was teased in The Marvel’s, but never appeared? My theory is that it was cut footage.
Wanda, Carole and she hulk are all basically villains even of their own stories. Nothing about them is inspiring…hell Photon basically justifies Wanda taking an entire town (including children) hostage. How tf are we supposed to champion terrorists? Iron man messed up with ultron but at least tried to atone for his actions and died for the universe. Nothing about those three feels heroic, their mistakes lead to more entitlement and more mistakes.
Let me remind you Loki and Thor but commited 2 seperate genocides on frost giants yet you forgive them
@@PredsjednikGustavo._Loki started out a villain. Thor's action was also treated as a negative.
Wanda, Carol and Jennifer were treated as positive. This is why I prefer Wanda in MoM.
Air Walkers...? You mean Airwalks?
I think Captain Marvel could have a more compelling story and The Marvels could be used for that to tell this story, but Marvel Studios is more focused on agenda and telling stories for the sake of IP and franchise coz of Young Avengers and X-Men (through the post credits)
What agenda what non existent agenda are you talking about? The fact that she is a female character is agenda?