Comparing these two is like apples to oranges. Bobby is more syncopated & Aquiles is more linear, but both can be very technical. And both are amazing at what they do, period. \m/
When I listen to Bobby, the song sound like a big drum solo (at this video), but Aquiles know how mix the drum in the hole sound. But both are great, and thinking that one is better than another is a matter of taste.
It's not that I am not impressed with Priester's incredible speed. But Bobby Jarzombek does stuff that no other human being could even conceive of, let alone do.
I agree. Jarzombek is extremely well-respected in the smaller circles, since he isn't very well known (and from his personality, I can see he likes it that way). The man is dedicated to his music! Beastly talent at drumming. Like you said, makes everything flow very seamlessly!
Sr. D yeah,I totally agree you ! like his brother "ron" can t be compared to any guitarist... they really search something new.from "watchtower" to "blotted science" .... they are genious!
aquiles stuff is easier to play and understand. bobby is at another level. superhuman drumming level. aquiles is very good drummer but bobby is much more advanced drummer technically.
Ask yourself this question, can Bobby do everything Aquiles is doing? Can Aquiles do everything Bobby is doing? There is your answer, and it's very clear!
Thad Meszaras Bobby got the call but turned it down. And he probably wouldn't have been selected since his drumming personality is so big and DT wanted a guy that would listen to them, and not play to far from their comfort zone. Hence Mangini got selected. Thomas Lang and Minneman were better than Mangini from the drummers that got shortlisted. www.blabbermouth.net/news/bobby-jarzombek-why-i-turned-down-dream-theater-drummer-audition/
@@TheBadThad Omair Sheikh is full of it. He hasn't followed the interviews regarding that DT drumming "audition". It was no audition. The closest thing to describe it is "reality TV" and as we know, reality is the furthest from what it really is. That drumming position was never open to begin with. It was Manginis gig from the start. DT had wanted to make a mini series of these "auditions" and sell the content to broadcast. The ones they shopped the idea to nixed it. Eventually DT got little time left and decided to release it on YT themselves instead. By then the gig was already snatched by Mangini. The whole auditions thing was staged. And regarding Bobby J, that was one of the reasons why he didn't want to participate. It wouldn't do anything for him. No payday and gig wasn't open either... That's really what happened. There are better drummers out there than Mangini but Mangini still was always the fit for DT.
Toco e acompanho bateria há 25 anos. Aquiles é extraordinário, mas esse Bobby é de outro planeta. O nível de dificuldade do que ele executa nem se compara com o do Aquiles.
Osama Qussous Sorry, dude...seeing this particularly video, for me, Priester is superior using feet. I see it very clear. Didn't see nothing to say Bobby is superior. None in this video.
No not better than Marco. Marco can play stuff that you have to be a mathematical genius to pull of sometimes if he wants. Nobody can play more technical than Marco imo. And if you're not judging on technical playing than it's all just opinion and one can say Lars ulrich is better than both of em.
To start the debate, in my opinion there's no contest, Bobby IS GOD! The fact that he teach himself to use his left hand to hit the hi hat and ride, while maintaining a right handed tomb and cymbal distribution, is proof of how skill his brain is in isolate his limbs from one another.
I see what you mean for sure. But, I was hoping that someone like Jarzombek would raise the band to a new level. What I like about Jarzombek is that he makes odd signatures blend very smoothly. The new Arch / Matheos is a perfect example. Just amazing stuff that seems to flow naturally even though the signatures are all over the place. This guy is just so unique in style.
Both are in leagues of their own. Bobby has his pinpoint timing shifts and Aquiles has such magnificent ambient energy, it would be hard to decide between the two.
Bobby is such a beast, a totally ridiculous talent. His brother Ron plays guitar and is a ridiculously sick player too. The Jarzombek family has some musical alien genetics.
Que som lindo Aquiles sem dúvida, mais o Aquiles é muito previsível, vc sabe oque ele vai faze. Já o boby é muito imprevisível, vc não sabe oque vai fazer, ele faz o mais difícil que é quebrar tudo ,ao mesmo tempo ter o controle de tudo
Os dois são extraordinários, mais um batera que é bom ele não precisa mostrar que sabe de tudo, que é o Aquiles só por que ele toca mais em tempos como 4/4, não quer dizer que ele não toca 7/8, 13/16, do mesmo jeito que o outro cara toca também . Se um músico domina o 4/4 ele toca em qualquer tempo.
@@kauacarvalho5005 Aquiles toca tempos quebrados, mas todos sabem que essa não é a especialidade dele. Tanto que ele cagou no teste do DT com uma música relativamente fácil para quem toca prog. Além do mais, ele não é nada versátil. É só olha o trabalho acústico do Hangar para ter a prova...
@@heathcliffseraph8249 hoje em dia, até quem toca mais por prazer sem ser profissional, consegue tocar música complicadíssimas, se acha que o Aquiles não?
AP is a great, great player. fun, talented, great Portuguese buttery smooth playing, feel. Bobby is an alien who not only hits the drums, symbols but knows where they are to within a micron of their actual position..he is on another cosmic plane his limb independence and presence of mind is idk, unreal?
I'd also like to note that I hope you have listened to Bobby's playing on the Spastic Ink albums with his brother. That's where his playing truly shines. As a matter of fact, it's SO much better than anything he's done in just about every other band he's been in, that it's almost a shame. For how technical he is as a drummer, he's almost TOO humble! Kind of like Mangini on the new DT album. I hoped to hear more Fire Garden Suite type of stuff, but alas, he took a more direct approach. Anyway...
kkkkkkkkkk eu queria ver alguém tocar só uma música executada pelo Jarzombek...pq músicas do angra e do hangar possuem vários coves no youtube, muito bons por sinal!!!
wow kiskipuich we got a new little fan girl here, this wizard style drumming is so fucking useless like vegetarian hot-dog's. I don't know what the hell is wrong with you that u think Bobby is not from this world. Ya sure he can do massive tricks but who the fuck need it? The same shit as these comparison between two musicians, who both are pretty good drummer's. And u little fan girl was given some badass butthurt in the age of10? Grow up and we can talk again about real stuff u childish fan girl.
Come on guys. Both are amazing drummers. If you have a preference but we can't say that one is better. They have their own styles and they own their styles, respectively
He's played with Sebastian Bach, Halford, Iced Earth, and far more. The stuff you would consider to be "showing off" is what you would find on extremely complex albums, like Spastic Ink (which is purely he and his brother, who are both amazingly technical musicians). The reason I keep pointing out the instructional point with the clips in this video is because a drum instructional *should* showcase a drummer's technical abilities. His "what's best for the song" work, however, is found elsewhere.
Does anyone know where the video of Bobby's footage came from? It would be awesome to see the whole thing. Also were the songs he played in the footage ever recorded and released on a CD?
Ha. Those are just different drummers, different drumming styles. It's really hard to find someone better than Aquiles for dense and powerful metal music, and it's equally hard to find a so highily prepared and versatile drummer like Bobby. They both rock. If you agree, give thumbs up and enjoy their work, from Angra to Spastik Ink. : )
Ahhh there you go, you replied. So nice of you being calm. You can stay even headed as well as have nice soft, moist girl hands. Well done. Are we finished yet or are we collaborating on a novel?
Might I also point out that the videos chosen to compare the two are completely different types? The Priester clips are from songs on albums, where as the Jarzombek clips are from his instructional video and from a clinic in a music store. And before you make claims that Jarzombek is a show-off or has some sort of ego to stroke, try watching clips/interviews with him. He's one of the most humble, down-to-earth musicians you could ever hope to meet. Haters gonna hate, though, right? =)
the guy w/the gloves is a great rock drummer, no doubt. But the lefty guy w/the crash cymbals behind his head is NEXT LEVEL & totally insane... there's simply no comparison!
like everything else it's a matter of taste.... priester is like a bulldozer of pure metal crushing everything in his path... Jarzombek is like a very twisted labyrinth of madness...
I like both drummers honestly i know both have their own strengths and few err weaker areas? (very few lol) however i love how Aquiles accents on the other melodies and rhythms in the songs he plays with. But i can respect both. What do you think?
I am brazilian but not even Mangini is a match to Bobby jarzombek. The man is out of this world. I would have loved see him on Dream theater.
Bobby twice turned down Dream Theater's invitation because he likes having the freedom to play, which is why he's on Fates Warning.
Comparing these two is like apples to oranges. Bobby is more syncopated & Aquiles is more linear, but both can be very technical. And both are amazing at what they do, period. \m/
exactly. the only reason i clicked on this video to see what exactly the comparison was cause i know they're both so different
When I listen to Bobby, the song sound like a big drum solo (at this video), but Aquiles know how mix the drum in the hole sound. But both are great, and thinking that one is better than another is a matter of taste.
It's not that I am not impressed with Priester's incredible speed. But Bobby Jarzombek does stuff that no other human being could even conceive of, let alone do.
Love the sound of Aquiles drumkit and cymbals. One of the best I've ever heard in the metal genre.
I agree. Jarzombek is extremely well-respected in the smaller circles, since he isn't very well known (and from his personality, I can see he likes it that way). The man is dedicated to his music! Beastly talent at drumming. Like you said, makes everything flow very seamlessly!
They are different styles. Currently Bobby is the best drummer in the world
Come on !! that's not even fair, Aquiles is pushing the limits to the human extremes.. but man, Bobby it's not from earth .. you can't compare
Sr. D yeah,I totally agree you ! like his brother "ron" can t be compared to any guitarist... they really search something new.from "watchtower" to "blotted science" .... they are genious!
aquiles stuff is easier to play and understand. bobby is at another level. superhuman drumming level. aquiles is very good drummer but bobby is much more advanced drummer technically.
I agree with you dude 100%
Bobby's from another planet...
He's the real upgrade of the best H.M. drummers!
Ask yourself this question, can Bobby do everything Aquiles is doing? Can Aquiles do everything Bobby is doing? There is your answer, and it's very clear!
Watch the AP audition with Dream Theater. If Bobby would have tried out for that job he'd be their new drummer - guaranteed!
Thad Meszaras Bobby got the call but turned it down. And he probably wouldn't have been selected since his drumming personality is so big and DT wanted a guy that would listen to them, and not play to far from their comfort zone. Hence Mangini got selected. Thomas Lang and Minneman were better than Mangini from the drummers that got shortlisted. www.blabbermouth.net/news/bobby-jarzombek-why-i-turned-down-dream-theater-drummer-audition/
I didn't know that, thanks for the info bro!
Thad Meszaras No problem :).
@@TheBadThad Omair Sheikh is full of it. He hasn't followed the interviews regarding that DT drumming "audition". It was no audition. The closest thing to describe it is "reality TV" and as we know, reality is the furthest from what it really is. That drumming position was never open to begin with. It was Manginis gig from the start. DT had wanted to make a mini series of these "auditions" and sell the content to broadcast. The ones they shopped the idea to nixed it. Eventually DT got little time left and decided to release it on YT themselves instead. By then the gig was already snatched by Mangini. The whole auditions thing was staged. And regarding Bobby J, that was one of the reasons why he didn't want to participate. It wouldn't do anything for him. No payday and gig wasn't open either... That's really what happened. There are better drummers out there than Mangini but Mangini still was always the fit for DT.
Toco e acompanho bateria há 25 anos. Aquiles é extraordinário, mas esse Bobby é de outro planeta. O nível de dificuldade do que ele executa nem se compara com o do Aquiles.
Vdd
Oooohhh...
Podem chorar quanto quiser mais os nordicos se tratando de musica sao Deuses velho esse bobby e alienigena
@3:20 those cymbal chokes were awesome, caught my attention!! Go Bobby. Aquiles is also awesome.
Bobby is out of this world....the other dude is a great player, but Bobby is literally out of this world with his timings....HE IS SICK!
How bout it....ok lol
Nor Norranun I think Bobby is better than Marco but not too much !!
Osama Qussous Sorry, dude...seeing this particularly video, for me, Priester is superior using feet. I see it very clear. Didn't see nothing to say Bobby is superior. None in this video.
No not better than Marco. Marco can play stuff that you have to be a mathematical genius to pull of sometimes if he wants. Nobody can play more technical than Marco imo. And if you're not judging on technical playing than it's all just opinion and one can say Lars ulrich is better than both of em.
lol
BOBBY for sure !!!!!!!!!!!!
Music is an art, not a competition!
These are two drummers I cannot compare... Both have incredible ability and are prime examples of the closest thing to flawless playing.
Bobby's alternating snare hits are something only gods have done
No contest, Bobby is a MONSTER!
To start the debate, in my opinion there's no contest, Bobby IS GOD! The fact that he teach himself to use his left hand to hit the hi hat and ride, while maintaining a right handed tomb and cymbal distribution, is proof of how skill his brain is in isolate his limbs from one another.
Respect to both drummers, love them both.
I see what you mean for sure. But, I was hoping that someone like Jarzombek would raise the band to a new level. What I like about Jarzombek is that he makes odd signatures blend very smoothly. The new Arch / Matheos is a perfect example. Just amazing stuff that seems to flow naturally even though the signatures are all over the place. This guy is just so unique in style.
The Allien Bobby of course!
Both are in leagues of their own. Bobby has his pinpoint timing shifts and Aquiles has such magnificent ambient energy, it would be hard to decide between the two.
Sin duda alguna el grandisimo AQUILES PRIESTER!!!
Bobby is such a beast, a totally ridiculous talent. His brother Ron plays guitar and is a ridiculously sick player too.
The Jarzombek family has some musical alien genetics.
clash of titans!
both drumers are awesome!
Music is Art. No one is better than none.
Que som lindo Aquiles sem dúvida, mais o Aquiles é muito previsível, vc sabe oque ele vai faze. Já o boby é muito imprevisível, vc não sabe oque vai fazer, ele faz o mais difícil que é quebrar tudo ,ao mesmo tempo ter o controle de tudo
Os dois são extraordinários, mais um batera que é bom ele não precisa mostrar que sabe de tudo, que é o Aquiles só por que ele toca mais em tempos como 4/4, não quer dizer que ele não toca 7/8, 13/16, do mesmo jeito que o outro cara toca também .
Se um músico domina o 4/4 ele toca em qualquer tempo.
@@kauacarvalho5005 Exatamente. O pessoal compara, sendo que o Aquiles até onde sei não tentou tocar as músicas do Bobby.
@@heathcliffseraph8249 verdade, e esquecem da melodia, olha a melodia do Aquiles, absurdo
@@kauacarvalho5005 Aquiles toca tempos quebrados, mas todos sabem que essa não é a especialidade dele. Tanto que ele cagou no teste do DT com uma música relativamente fácil para quem toca prog. Além do mais, ele não é nada versátil. É só olha o trabalho acústico do Hangar para ter a prova...
@@heathcliffseraph8249 hoje em dia, até quem toca mais por prazer sem ser profissional, consegue tocar música complicadíssimas, se acha que o Aquiles não?
E se alguém crítica o som do boby, veja esse vídeo dele tocando no seu novo álbum. Arch matheos
Doesnt has point of comparation, Aquiles is a EXCELLENT drummer and im fan of him, but Bobby is in another lvl.
Both are awesome. Aquiles is my preference.
And the winner is.......ALL of US! Both these cats are bad-ass!
Two amazing players. No need to compare....
Bobby com certeza!
AP is a great, great player. fun, talented, great Portuguese buttery smooth playing, feel. Bobby is an alien who not only hits the drums, symbols but knows where they are to within a micron of their actual position..he is on another cosmic plane his limb independence and presence of mind is idk, unreal?
I love Priester and his work in Angra, but Jarzombek's work in Arch/Matheos destroys everything he's ever done. It's not even fair.
Beautiful natural sound out of Bobby's Pearl MLX.
Bobby is like a ninja in these clips.
Silly comparison, Bobby is the man!
Bobby is from a different planet
Both great! Aquiles: never heared a so clear and linear drummer and Bobby: never sb flashed me with his pure skill and speed before.
I'd also like to note that I hope you have listened to Bobby's playing on the Spastic Ink albums with his brother. That's where his playing truly shines. As a matter of fact, it's SO much better than anything he's done in just about every other band he's been in, that it's almost a shame. For how technical he is as a drummer, he's almost TOO humble! Kind of like Mangini on the new DT album. I hoped to hear more Fire Garden Suite type of stuff, but alas, he took a more direct approach. Anyway...
The stuff Jarzombek plays is ten times more difficult and complex than what Priester plays. Nuff said.
Bobby Jarzombek absolutely best, no doubts at all!
1:59 to 2:40 is just nuts. The build up, the snare hand switching while increasing tempo. Freak.
Bobby FTW!!
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eu queria ver alguém tocar só uma música executada pelo Jarzombek...pq músicas do angra e do hangar possuem vários coves no youtube, muito bons por sinal!!!
Vdd kkk
Fazer o que o Bobby faz só fazendo macumba bicho kkkk
It comes down to the music making a drummer able to show his ability.
Aquiles is a great drummer BUT Jarzombek is a combination of 10 Aquiles! Easy!
Akiles is in a lower category
No comparison.
Ah this got more obvious in the dream theater audition.
Minnerman,jarzombek are in another league
HAHAHAHAHA JUST GO BACK TO WORK
metalheart80s
Not a bad drummer just not as good as the others.
wow kiskipuich we got a new little fan girl here, this wizard style drumming is so fucking useless like vegetarian hot-dog's. I don't know what the hell is wrong with you that u think Bobby is not from this world. Ya sure he can do massive tricks but who the fuck need it? The same shit as these comparison between two musicians, who both are pretty good drummer's. And u little fan girl was given some badass butthurt in the age of10? Grow up and we can talk again about real stuff u childish fan girl.
os 2 são muito bons!!
Come on guys. Both are amazing drummers. If you have a preference but we can't say that one is better. They have their own styles and they own their styles, respectively
Honestly is really hard to decide.
I been learning from this 2
Masters.
Yes!!!
Bobby will be
A unique masterpiece in
Dream theater
como se llama la primera cancion de hangar q toca priester al inicio?
O aquiles é o melhor pra mim
The way Bobby hits the cymbals BEHIND HIM...god.
Aquiles is a showman, Bobby is a Drummer, thanx and bb
No doubt about it. No one is better than Aquiles Priester in the genre!
Acho q nem se compara...!
And the winner is....The Listener !! both great in their respected field/genres
He's played with Sebastian Bach, Halford, Iced Earth, and far more. The stuff you would consider to be "showing off" is what you would find on extremely complex albums, like Spastic Ink (which is purely he and his brother, who are both amazingly technical musicians). The reason I keep pointing out the instructional point with the clips in this video is because a drum instructional *should* showcase a drummer's technical abilities. His "what's best for the song" work, however, is found elsewhere.
Aquiles Priesterr toca com tanta facilidade
Quais são os pratos que Aquiles usa para fazer a marcação nessa música?
São dois splesh ?
13:25 ele começa a usar
aquiiles es el mejor , no hay duda , felicitaciones aquiles
+Fernando Xavier Cevallos Pico si fuera el mejor no la hubiera cagado en la audicion para Dream Theater
cual es la cancion del opening
...WHILE chewing gum!! Incrdible. No, seriously... both are superb beyond description
Whatever, both these guys are fricking awesome!
Bobby Jarzombek is much more than just double base... Aquiles is a machine.
Does anyone know where the video of Bobby's footage came from? It would be awesome to see the whole thing. Also were the songs he played in the footage ever recorded and released on a CD?
Definitiva mente Aquiles y por mucho
Very good!
Ha. Those are just different drummers, different drumming styles. It's really hard to find someone better than Aquiles for dense and powerful metal music, and it's equally hard to find a so highily prepared and versatile drummer like Bobby. They both rock. If you agree, give thumbs up and enjoy their work, from Angra to Spastik Ink. : )
AQUILES IS THE BEST!!!! (Y)
the footage is from drum lesson vids if i recall i know theres alot of footage of the same on youtube here
Aquiles vc é o melhor num tem como esse cara ser melhor vc é de + e o hangar tb muito show :)
Os dois com certeza estão entre os melhores, mas os tempos e a métrica do Bobby jarzombek são impressionantes !
the two play very well the musical drums but I think Aquiles Priester is the winner
Ahhh there you go, you replied.
So nice of you being calm. You can stay even headed as well as have nice soft, moist girl hands. Well done.
Are we finished yet or are we collaborating on a novel?
Aquiles Priester has the same face of the old man on wheelchair of clockwork orange movie.
Bobby's cymbal placement is to make sure he ll end up being deaf no matter in which angle he is playing !
ki covardia fikei na duvida kra
2 makina na batera
credo
gracias bro !
Might I also point out that the videos chosen to compare the two are completely different types? The Priester clips are from songs on albums, where as the Jarzombek clips are from his instructional video and from a clinic in a music store. And before you make claims that Jarzombek is a show-off or has some sort of ego to stroke, try watching clips/interviews with him. He's one of the most humble, down-to-earth musicians you could ever hope to meet. Haters gonna hate, though, right? =)
Os dois são ótimos baterista isso é só questão de gosto
the guy w/the gloves is a great rock drummer, no doubt. But the lefty guy w/the crash cymbals behind his head is NEXT LEVEL & totally insane... there's simply no comparison!
aquiles priester é o cara ele é o melhor valeu aquiles prister vc é muito fera na batera
What's the first song that Jarzombek plays?
Beyond wow!
both monster of the art but bobby is another planet to most \m/
like everything else it's a matter of taste.... priester is like a bulldozer of pure metal crushing everything in his path... Jarzombek is like a very twisted labyrinth of madness...
Very well explain!!!!..... I choose the twisted one.... the insanely complex technical drummer...
muito legal, pedal duplo o tempo todo sem deixa de dizer que ele usa todo seu set.
Aquiles and Bobby great drummers
Bobby Jarzombek é muito bom mas prefiro Aquiles !
If i had a metal band id take Aquiles for the energy he puts in the music but if i had a super-technical band like Planet x id go with Bobby!
They're both awesome, but my fav between the two is Aquiles.
I like both drummers honestly i know both have their own strengths and few err weaker areas? (very few lol) however i love how Aquiles accents on the other melodies and rhythms in the songs he plays with. But i can respect both. What do you think?
He's great in playing drums
Bobby is mostly progressive,Priester is mostly speed. Two different styles. With that said. Neil Peart.
he hits extremely hard, i love when drummers hit the drums with strength