How I handle knowing about so much suffering
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Today is National Doughnut Day. Just Sayin.
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Please notice me Sempai 🥲🌱
They had donuts for staff at my job today. None of them were vegan. No donut day for me I guess 🤷♀️
So where’s the vegan donut recipe? :) Thanks for all your videos!
You are from Memphis. It is Donut.
@@snowranger19 I say doughnut I dont think its a regional thing, im from canada so idk
Removing yourself from Twitter is a good move for anyone trying to improve their mental health.
Pay attention to your emotions and count how many times a week you had a very strong unpleasant emotion and what preceded it. What we practice, we grow. When I stopped getting angry because of things on the internet I stopped getting angry at Partner. My partner, my partner is also named Partner
Facebook too...
Hell, just abandon anything social-app related.
Yep. I deactivated my account because I noticed my blood pressure was rising and I was feeling panicky every time I opened the app
Walked into a forest by my house today and noticed a little blob of fur on the ground. It was a sleeping baby deer fawn! I took some pictures of it and it woke up and started walking toward me and between my legs. It was so cute. I slowly backed away from it because it didn't seem injured or anything even though I wondered where its mother was. I went back to my house and researched fawn behavior and apparently the mother leaves her fawn in a safe place during the day so she can eat when it's still too young to keep up and she comes back when she's done. The white spots on it's body are camouflage to make it look like dappled sunlight on the ground. I revisited the place to see if it safely went back to it's sleeping spot and it had! I'll know for next time not to worry anything's wrong if I see another of these little guys curled up on the ground and be sure to give them plenty of space to not disturb them. It's amazing the wonderful things in nature just under our nose that we have no idea about!
Such a cute story. Thank you for sharing!
@MdoubleHB yes
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I have made the changes this year. My social media is just full of bunnies and sanctuaries.
I found focusing my energy on what I can do makes me feel less overwhelmed by all the sads. Over the past year I've adopted 6 ex commercials hens in my backyard and they have helped tremendously in making me feel like I'm making a difference. Getting involved in local sanctuaries helps even if only online. It's a productive distraction I think.
Pro tip for anyone who struggles with mental health, the thing that helped me more than any other thing, ever :
- take a notebook, take a pen,
write "I feel" on the top of the page, and then ask yourself - how do I feel? Really really honestly, whatever it is. Say you feel sadness. Write "sad", then try to figure out what this sadness is. Maybe it's "hopelessness", "loneliness" and "dissapointment" for example. Write those words under/around "sad" (whatever you like). Now try to see if you feel 1-2 other emotions as well. Maybe shame, or anger, or fear.
Do this every day, or many days a week. It takes 3-5 minutes and feels like an emotional cleansing.
Mine usually looks like this:
Shame - fear, disgust, hurt
Fear - vulnerable, concerned, helpless
Anger - dissapointed, sad, desperate
What is this?? It's a way to connect with yourself. It's a way to practice self love and self acceptance that actually works because you have to listen to yourself and accept your feelings, and not suppress or distract yourself from the negative emotions. It trains you to listen to yourself and take yourself seriously and to be in the moment.
It sounds stupidly simple, but nothing has helped me more, I don't think. It's called emotional literacy.
The notebook obviously is totally private. You might even write "thank you" on the bottom, or write a smiley face - whatever makes you feel good.
And yeah, probably have other passions outside of animal rights. Something associated with positive emotions.
Cheers to all you lovely people.
thank you for this.
I dream about Swayze. She is the woman I have longed for all my life. Her big brown eyes and her beautiful lips.
But she can never be mine. Because I stink like rotten eggs
There's a book called Focusing you might like!
I think crying over "trivial" things can be a result of pent-up emotions or frustration. I suffer from depression too and that's the way I experience it. Also, it's sad how we kind of want to prevent crying. Actually imo, crying is sooo important as emotional relief. It's good to let it all out by crying from time to time. For me it means I'm able to process emotions and express pain to myself rather than compartmentalize them. It kind of helps to be more kind towards myself and learn to soothe myself.
this, yes. it's also good to remember that when someone breaks down/lashes out over something trivial, that's probably a sign there's more going on in that person's life.
Following Esther the Wonder Pig is full of laughter and fun.
Great tips, Swayze! I have one to add: spending time with animals. Whether it be your companion animals or visiting a sanctuary, it is so healing/calming to be around animals. They always manage to make us smile. 😊💓
Thank you for making this video. I’ve made a conscious effort in the last year to cut out needlessly upsetting things (like horror movies and sad TV shows) and I always get called “soft” for it. I also refuse to watch animal suffering videos. I can’t deal with that media and I won’t force myself in the name of being a “good vegan”.
Same. When I first learned about some of the factory farming practices, I couldn't help but watch and could barely operate for a good week. I would be going about my day as normal and the footage would appear in my mind as an intrusive thought and I would just have to stop whatever I was doing and cry/breakdown. It even led to suicidal thoughts. Thankfully things mellowed out and I just feel better now knowing I'm doing my part living a vegan lifestyle without subjecting myself to the harsh realities of things
The only way I can deal with animal suffering is removing myself completely from it. I'm always much happier and don't view every non vegan as evil which is something I had to teach myself. Although on the flip side of that, it always feels like a disservice to the animals. They have to ensure so much suffering while I can ignore it. I'm extremely conflicted by it
You haven’t “removed” yourself from animal suffering, you’ve chosen to deny reality. Crop depredation programs are universal.
@@RestingBitchface7 what does that mean?
I'm so early! Love your videos I've been watching for years!!
I really appreciate that you took the time to make this video. As someone with severe mental illnesses, I needed to hear what you said. 💕
A friend told me she felt happier living in New York City than anywhere else because “no matter what you have going on or how out of it you are, you are never the craziest thing someone saw on the street that day.” It was the greatest explanation for loving city life I had ever heard.
I no longer watch a lot of food content for yours is very informative and honest, I appreciate it!
I'm newly vegan but I work in the freezer section of a superstore, I've filed for a transfer to a new department but like... it's not soon enough, It's really fucking me up.
I try and see some positives like, I'm also stocking Daiya products and frozen fruit and veggies, but it got me thinking like... so technically my mentality towards the freezer section is "Let the meat-eaters handle it?' ughh, Idk lol. I truly see the job as supporting animal exploitation and it's very hard for me to accept "blood money" but I need to work, I can't take a few weeks off to switch departments.
My gosh, hang in there! I feel for you. I’m hoping you will be able to switch departments soon!
Thank you for talking about Twitter. I deleted my Twitter in January. I started a new one about a month ago following almost no one. My new Twitter is fine. But my old Twitter, and I imagine most of anyone’s Twitter, was a nuclear bomb of constant negativity, sadness and fear. And it’s not like I was following people that would lead anyone to think that. Twitter is just a horrendous platform.
I know I’m being somewhat hypocritical because I did just make a new Twitter. But following almost no one makes all the difference. And there were just simple things I wanted to get back on Twitter for, like What the Helicopter, which explains why helicopters are circling my neighborhood in real time, lol.
I also left Instagram like three years ago. I find it horrible in a very different way than Twitter, but more than anything, I’m old and I loved Instagram back in the day. I get that Instagram has become hugely popular since FB bought it out and that I am in the minority here. Personally, I liked Instagram when my feed was who I followed in the time order that they posted. When that changed, I just hated it.
@@JennRighter ugh yeah, I was telling this to a friend. And it is getting worse by the minute. Now if you scroll through your own fricking feed (ya know, the people you FOLLOW), after a while IG will only show you "suggestions" aka other accounts you might also wanna follow. You can click on the option "show older posts", but this will be a separate feed, no longer part of the starting page. I'm literally only still there bc of my stories archive from 2018 (downloading them all would be sooo much work), and bc I want to start making videos, and "wasting" a small following of 1k would be stupid in that context...
I dream about Swayze. She is the woman I have longed for all my life. Her big brown eyes and her beautiful lips.
But she can never be mine. Because I stink like rotten eggs
Give it time. I tried that, a few months later the company had found a way to push anger into me again
I actually started following possumeveryhour quite recently because of a retweet of yours I think and seriously thank you, I needed that lol
To ease and eventually eliminate suffering, it's helpful to find suitable meditation and/or breathing techniques that you can do consistently to help lower your stress levels and dis-identify from both strong emotional currents and spiralling thoughts. These can also allow you to become more aware of your external surroundings and internal states and help you better align your responses to different circumstances with your intentions. Building a favorable self-concept will also be very beneficial in general. Ultimately, all of these approaches aim to cultivate patience, persistence, self-compassion, equanimity, and resilience in the face of adversity and unpleasant scenarios.
You really think one should seek aponia from medication and breathing?
@@TunaIRL Meditation, not medication. Also, to be clear, not to eliminate the feeling nor sensations of pain, but to gradually no longer experience suffering. Here, pain (felt sensation) ≠ suffering (unfavorable reaction to said felt sensation). Pain (be it physical, mental, or emotional) can still be felt or perceived if you stub your toe, break a bone, or lose a loved one, but the overwhelming suffering as the reaction to said pain can be reduced and eventually fully dissolved using meditation and breathing techniques.
As to whether one should seek a way out of suffering-again, not pain-through these methods, sure, why not? You can do them just for the sake of practice, but many of these techniques were designed for the explicit purpose of Self-realization.
@@letsdomath1750 Ah my bad about reading meditation wrong. That's what sounded wrong to me. I guess I should've also included ataraxia.
Thanks for the social media recommendations!
You looked cute in this video :)
(Happy national donut day from someone who cannot get enough of seeing local vegan donut shops on IG)
Knowing that you can reduce it and knowing that it can provide clarity to people's lives in the long run. That's how for me.
Thank you for this video, it's hard for all of us sometimes and it's nice to remember how far things have come even though we have a long way to go. There's a lot of good in the world too!
Swazye: science and facts, facts and science
Swazye about her feelings: immediately regressed to accents of birth origin
I was separated from my fiancé for more than 6 months during the pandemic due to travel bans. Thank you for caring about families that have been separated during this time
Great topic to bring up, animal rights community definitively needs a lot more support in this area
Its is similar for me. I can not follow any animal rights/shelters/foundations. I can support them financially but i can not look at their feed. Also: watching your videos has made me more aware, and now I'm learning how to get plant based. I think that your work is very important and as a activists you are doing great.
Thank you for this.
Good tips! I will add writing a schedule out and sticking to it no matter your mood particuarly on weekends, or nonbusy days. Easier said than done, of course, but it does help!
Hey, thanks for addressing my comment :)
I appreciate you sharing your thoughts!
Social media is a big problem for me and yeah I've known for awhile I need to limit my use.
Just the apathy of the suffering of animals is everywhere. I can't go to work, or anywhere really, without hearing about how much people love eating animals. I see it everywhere, I hear it everywhere. I can't just turn it off. I do feel helpless because in all honesty there's not a whole lot I can do... I just hope there's enough of us to end this madness soon.... lol I could definitely use a therapist 😂
And you were talking about the animal cruelty stuff in the video games and shows... I feel the same. And I don't get overly upset about it, but it's SO annoying, because it's in every single show and movie I love... and I see everything so differently now as a vegan, and I'm just like, CAN'T I JUST ENJOY THINGS? 😂
But yeah, thanks so much for this video. 💕
Thank you for mentioning anger issues - I feel less alone and ashamed. My first emotion when I get sensory overload is overwhelming rage and I've always been very ashamed of this and just shut down or remove myself so I don't cause any harm. But, I've been trying to acknowledge the harm I cause to myself or with my shut downs. Thank you
Same, deleted Twitter and quit social media. Emotional health skyrocketed. Swapped emails with people I met online and we write letters to each other like pen pals
it also helps to get really into exploring new vegan foods. it can be fun and exciting to try new products, restaurants, recipes, foods from different cultures, etc. i find that the more satisfied and happy/healthy i am with my diet, the less i focus on the sad parts of veganism
So you realize that people need something to be interested in. A hobby. Why do you narrow it down as "trying new vegan foods" instead of a way more helpful tip of "Be interested in something. Have passion towards something."? I'm confused why you would intentionally narrow your advice down to a level where not everyone might get use out of it.
@@lunchmoneylux Oh so you're just writing stuff for no reason. I didn't realize.
@@lunchmoneylux Can you elaborate on how the world revolves around me in your opinion?
My point was for you to try and see what is actually causing your sense of fulfilment that derives from "vegan cooking". Had you reflected on this you would've realized that you had a chance to improve your mindset and help and give advice to more people. Instead you are taking on this mindset of "Loll not serious I don't care about anything" which is a big cause in why the world is going to shit right now.
I have never once said your advice is not acceptable. I questioned why you would deliberately deliver your message to a small portion of people reading. Seems small minded to me. Which is surely a mindset that vegans are trying to avoid, right?
This video indirectly made my day.
This is tough! I focus on what I can actually do. Forget the rest. Then I get made fun of for being vegan and I feel like hopeless again that no one will ever get it. At least in my circle. But I stay away from Facebook, Twitter n Instagram.
I also suffer from depression and an anxiety disorder, and I agree that it can be a good idea to limit the quantity of information that triggers us. Unfortunatly this is not possible for everyone. For me I just get really sad and apathetic whenever I learn about human, or animal suffering or about anything related to climate change and ecological disasters. Of course I can avoid the news but as someone who works in a supermarket and have pretty much no choice of doing otherwise, I can't stop seeing covid deniers, poor people that can't pay for their food, colleagues who are employed under frankly illegal conditions (but won't complain), contempt the most privileged people have for us and other low wage workers, the enormous quantity of food and plastic waste the store produces, and obviously the horrendous animal suffering that goes through my hands and into the consumer's fridges :/.... I also live in France where most mental health doctors are psychoanalysts (a frankly ridiculous pseudocience) and where it is therefore very difficult to find a good mental health practitioner. So heh... That's neat I guess.
So you struggle with handling
the suffering of animals by calling people liars when they talk about the real issues with BLM? 🤨 and how they send wild horses to the slaughter house? Please make a video on this, vegan or non vegan everyone needs to ban together and help put a stop towards this with education and what we can do as audience viewers
Rage is the most scrollable emotion so to maximize time-on-site (app) in order to maximize exposure to ads and generate revenues the algorithms/feeds are designed to make you mad. The algorithms could be changed. Or we could just pay a small fee for using ad-free social media... I dont think most ppl understand that in the current model we are literally paying with our sanity 🤪
not necessarily related, but your comment reminded me of the quote "if you're not paying for the product, you're the product"
I dream about Swayze. She is the woman I have longed for all my life. Her big brown eyes and her beautiful lips.
But she can never be mine. Because I stink like rotten eggs
Yeah, pay a fee to see no ads and all the content of people you follow in chronological order.. that was the Twitter I signed up for and it wasn't the one I deleted i can tell you that
@@pjryon2276 creepy isn't funny
@@therabbithat And it would help if people didn't post inspirational crap and other memes every hour (I posted lots of vegan and atheist memes in 2014 when I was going vegan...).
I've started noticing that a lot of apps like Facebook, Twitter and TikTok are actually ROBBING me of the time, focus and drive that I need to reach certain goals. I beat myself up about it, but these apps are getting me in my emotions too much and I end up angry or depressed and disconnected. I've just recently chosen to uninstall and recenter. I dont want to lose Instagram or UA-cam. Just venting.
lovely video!!! thanks again :)
Thank you for sharing 🧡
You, and you alone, make UA-cam totally worth it for me (and, also, when I find myself watching Eddie Van Halen solos for three hours until 4am and then I’m like: what the fuck is my problem??)
Update your Amazon store list? Bought all 3 of your tshirts and would love to support you more!!!
I liked the video. I just want to clarify that 12-Step programs, like AA, require some form of spirituality of the participant - not religiosity.
@WhiteCrow
They're cheaper than a movie and there's free coffee.
- Marla Singer.
If I could have sobered up without up them... what the [expletive deleted] was stopping me?
Glad I (finally) listened to M. Scott Peck.
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yeah, but her point still stands. Spirituality still focuses on metaphysics, and not everyone is spiritual or likes spirituality.
sPiRiTuALiTy is nonsense
@@luckylarita1630
True enough,
but I had to understand it for myself ...
"Religion is for those who want to get to Heaven, spirituality is for those who've already been through Hell."
Never thought I'd be in a position to say that from direct experience.
❤️
I dream about Swayze. She is the woman I have longed for all my life. Her big brown eyes and her beautiful lips.
But she can never be mine. Because I stink like rotten eggs
They have a tantrum and you sit with them for an hour until they're happy again, that's so beautiful. They are going to be so emotionally stable and good at self soothing when they grow up, you are great
This made my day 💖
I agree. I get hit with the vegan sadness sometimes too with tv shows or comments from people.
@Unnatural Vegan
I am so happy I have found your channel. You are more realistic and you do incorporate science and the way you speak is not giving, at least me, more anxiety. Thank you for being true, open and honest and realistic all times! I have though a question, I would like to hear from your point of view, how you would think or handle the particular situation. I am taking a course within health and nutrition, obviously, the books we're reading are based on older research and yea, basically, eat meat, potatoes, greens and you're good to go. I am getting frustrated going through research papers and reading chapters about how human being are made for hunting and eating this way, etc. I am trying to keep my personal beliefs out of it, but it is hard, psychologically. Of course, since it is not coherent with my beliefs. How can I remain sane and go on without being angry about the "truth" out there, or reality. How would you tackle this? English is not my first language don't know if I could make myself clear though. :P hugs xoxo
In one part of my dream last night, I was back in high school and you were my philosophy teacher lmao
I know what you mean. I had to Unfriend and unfollow a lot that shows animal violence. It would put me in a spin from rage and taking it out on the people in my life to deep depression. For my own mental health I avoid any animal violence videos and such. I feel like throwing out love rather than rage will get more people to open up.
The part about about video games reminded me about when I went vegetarian in middle school and stopped eating meat in Minecraft, I just used bread and mushroom soup lmao
So many people have said get off twitter I did and it made me feel much better.
Makes me so glad I never got on it
Getting off of Facebook (finally), and making time to focus on my health and maintain some hobbies has helped me immensely with mental health.
Oh and 🍄
I hear the screams of a billion sentient beings every time I close my eyes.
I gave myself burnout pretty badly and it took a long time to bounce back. Consuming negative content constantly is so mentally damaging.
Well now I want to go back to playing Hades
Omg, it happens the same to me watching Bob's Burguer :( but it's such a funny show.
thank you for this video. i live in a less privileged position compared to vegans from the states or western europe. there is way less vegan products available, and sometimes it can be demotivating. of course, thinking about animals keeps me on track, but it gets pretty heavy on the mental health.
Could they not see them because they couldn’t take 2+ weeks off to travel to SK, quarantine, and fly home? Like I’ve watched someone go to korea, stay for a few months, and come back and their only “problem” was needing a contact in SK to vouch for them/meet them at the airport essentially. (Which is seems like the grandparents could’ve done) which makes me assume it was a financial reason they couldn’t get their children back? I mean assuming this family is from the United States.
I've never been on instagram because why would i show my pictures to others? i do not get that lol
Swayze, have you tried any psychedelics? i'm sure I remember you mentioning it once that you were interested, and your state is one of the more relaxed in terms of legality
That’s exactly what I did... unfollowed things like mercy for animals, but following sanctuaries etc. instead
From my experience, the best tip I can give is actually getting the therapist and see what happens.
Oh that's a good topic for a video! I was told, that because of my ED and depression, and high lvl of empathy, first I should focus on healing my relationship with food, any restrictions are bad for me for now, and I should focus on my mental health, and don't just live to be vegan. I could if that would not be a problematic area for me in the future. Before that I was vegan, but I'm taking a break so I could go back on track and be one for a longer period of my life, coz now I was burning out so quickly because of my mental health issues. How do you react to ppl who can not be vegan at some point in their life because of mental health?
Hey, I just wanted to say that, as someone who's also in recover, I'm so proud of you for fighting this terrible illness & that life CAN and DOES get better outside the ed! I know how hard and painful it can be and how sometimes it feels pointless, but please try to remember: recovery pain is temporary and there's light at the end of the tunnel, ed pain is never ending and only ever increases. As for the veganism, your mental health always comes first, it needs to! Any small changes you can continue to make (E.g cruelty free skin care etc) will have a positive impact on the world, but as will your recovery, as it makes sure the world continues to be blessed by your beautiful empathetic kind soul. Keep going, it's worth it!
@@abbieevans6141 Thank you so much for your kind words! Sending lots of good energy, take care!
I can't follow any vegan pages, sanctuaries, shelters... even though I understand the cause, it fills me with sadness and anger, it makes me feel hopeless.
I’ll do anything for you !! 24\7 anytime
I don't get RE 8, like it was about zombies and viruses? right?
10:10: Loved that 😂
Those kids who were trapped in South Korea were trapped, because South Korea imposed a travel ban. Was the travel ban ever lifted? Can people enter or leave South Korea now?
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I was making mental notes from this video and a freaking add for bbq and meat was shown 🙃 way to kill the mood, youtube
Thanks for the vid
Rational recovery is the non spiritual sober program she was mention. SMART recovery is a more common one.
Kristen Leo's nickname for me is "crazy vegan." Jordan Peterson eats that shit up.
scary game squad!
I think it's an ageing thing? I started getting emotional from some simple things (that related to my personal life), get rid of people who always negative, using less and less social media. Yes you are getting 40.
My tips for mental health is to think you are better than others, always and no matter what. lol
I stopped following the news in general for my mental health. I just got so anxious about stuff happening in the world I couldn't do anything about. I also only subscribe to plant and fun animal pages on reddit.
We have come far and we are making progress in some ways -- the rise in popularity of veganism being a case in point -- but unfortunately, we haven't learnt to live sustainably on a planet with finite natural resources and very delicately balanced and interdependent ecosystems. Consequently, we are moving closer and closer to an ecological crisis -- and attendant social and political crises -- especially given the "positive feedback mechanism" that will trigger runaway climate change, e.g.
1) The warmer the planet and sea become, the more sea ice melts in the Arctic and Antarctic.
2) The more the sea ice melts the less ice there is to act as a reflective surface reflecting heat and light back into space.
3) The less heat and light reflected back into space the warmer the planet and the sea becomes leading to more sea ice melting [1].
This is just one of multiple such "positive feedback mechanisms" that can lead to runaway global warming. I would invite you to read 6 Degrees: Our Future on a Hotter Planet and/or any of many other good books documentaries on this topic. Working out how to galvanise the massive global coordination and redeployment of resources necessary is the primary global challenge that we face and I would invite you to make a video about this!
lmao, I follow Possums every hour too.
it's really really hard to maintain some level of sanity with all the cruelty in the world. I got dogpiled last night on reddit when I uh, asked the sort of question that might make some people consider how selfish they are. I was TRYING not to be rude, said I didn't mean to come across as insensitive to anyone struggling with a similar problem to the person the thread was about, just, you know, voicing an opinion with a solution. not telling anyone what to do. just suggesting a compassionate solution.
Scary game squad :D
If you really want to "be in the know" you should probably just set up an RSS feed instead of using social media. This way you get to access all the content you consciously choose to have without an endless feed and all int he same place. I'm using a command line application called newsboat, but there are plenty of gui options for those who want something easier I suppose.
just commenting to uh, you know help u with interaction n stuff :)
You can write vegan on stuff and have it not be vegan though, right? Look for the jumping bunny, even the pink heart ears symbol is on the honour system I think
Haven’t watched the video yet but for me it’s Xanax and Celexa
FOR EVERYONE:
@WeRateDogs on Twitter.
You're welcome.
hey have you ever looked into ASD? I've been following you for years and a lot of struggles you describe having made me think this sounds a lot like struggles of autism. not trying to diagnose or anything, just wanted to put this here in case you'd want to research it
Not on social media other than UA-cam, don't want kids, so I guess I'll just stick to the drugs 😅
UA-cam only for me too. I wish people would take all the energy they put into social media use it to grow a tree LOL.
UV: can you imagine not knowing about germs?
Covid-Doubters: *deny existence of germs
So basically you’re saying control your media inputs and stop and smell the roses (like vegan labels now almost ubiquitous).
I keep in touch with the news by listening to the BBC news podcast. It’s short sweet and headlines from around the world, if I want more information from there I’ll just search from there. It’s better than CONSTANTLY being inundated with horrible, and sometimes made for controversy, headlines.
This has milk in it? F**k off 😂 Yes.
Around the 9 minute mark I just kept nodding. I'm not vegan or vegetarian (maybe one day) but I am conscious of what I'm buying and when they mark products as vegan I know it catches my eye too and I buy plenty because of the V.
Having kids is definitely not the answer.
"get off twitter and have babies" lmao literally what I did
I just wanted to add, the rational response thing doesn't work for me, at all. Don't get me wrong, obviously I have perspective and my brain always automatically looks for positives in shitty situations. But there's nothing more invalidating to me, than telling someone that I'm struggling and feeling like shit, and all they have to say is "well, other people have it worse!". It doesn't help. Also, by that logic I am also not allowed to feel happy, since if I'm doing fine, other people are doing better - that's just how relativity works and my natural conclusion.
I know putting things into perspective is important, but the rational response isn't always the most compassionate thing.
I thought i couldn’t love you anymore..... GAME OVER GIRL... i really think i am you..... except im not really that intelligent ...
Being depressed and infertile is a joy...
FREE PALESTINE!
Please give me a chance gorgeous!!?!
what do you do when your country (brazil) is getting more and more terrible, in every way, every single day? hahahaha
What's going on there?
@@thatwasweird954 our president is a far right lunatic, covid is still going strong here, vaccines are being doled out at a snail's pace hahaha at the rate it's going, i'll be lucky if i get the jab this year
Swayze has gone insane!
I dream about Swayze. She is the woman I have longed for all my life. Her big brown eyes and her beautiful lips.
But she can never be mine. Because I stink like rotten eggs
It's hard because you consider that suffering is unacceptable. But, suffering is synonymous to life. And the only alternative proposed by veganism is to substitute a life of exploitation, and potentially suffering, with no life at all for all domestic animals.
It's hard because, as the only moral observer, we are concerned about OUR moral suffering rather than the actual animal suffering. Otherwise, you'll substitute vegetables with other meals: they cause much more animal suffering than any meat does (at least twice as much). But you don't because it's easier to ignore animal death with no meat in your plate: you don't suffer morally because you can ignore the exploitation and suffering caused in your plate, thus, it exists but doesn't matter. Cruelty free food is not a thing. It's marketing bs and we love to embrasse it once in a while as a reinforcement biais.
My bottom line is that vegans don't care more about animals life than meat eaters because they encourage the replacement of suffering with no life at all.
What really counts is the moral suffering. And moral is a speciest attribute of the human race.
Do you think that an animal living in a factory farm is preferable to that animal not living at all?
Furthermore, if you think that sufferring is irrelevant and that life is always prederable to non-life, I presume you should spend every moment trying to have as many children as you possibly can.
@@mm-dn6oe Do you think that human kids living in slums and exploited for their labour are preferable to no kids?
Would you recommend to force their mother's sterilization?
@@mm-dn6oe _"if you think that sufferring is irrelevant"_ I dont think suffering is irrelevant at all. Veganism is opposed to ANY form of animal exploitation. Not only the industrial forms, not only the one you consider inappropriate: ANY form.
I think you assume that animal exploitation is only industrial and must be made only of suffering so you can justify their extinction for your moral comfort and only your moral comfort, not for the animals. Because replacing a life of suffering for no life at all is not making any favour to anyone.
I know that animal exploitation is the only way for certain species individuals to be alive and that certain forms of animal exploitations can be acceptable because the benefit for the individuals surpass the inconvenients.
So I will always be opposed to an ideology that refuses ANY form of animal exploitation.
I have as many children that I want. I note that vegan sanctuary do sterilize each and every animal they "save" in order to make sure that they don't have any choice to. How is it morally more acceptable that artificial insemination, b.e., to you?
@@ginabean9434 "veganism is opposed to ANY form of animal exploitation" no it's not.
If you Google the word veganism you will not find that in the definition.
Your problem is that you are arguing against an imaginary belief you made up in your head, rather than the belief that people actually hold.
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Get off twitter, have babies
Now THAT would be an interesting tshirt quote