I Can't Be an Astronaut
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Right now YOU have time to apply to be an astronaut candidate.
The deadline is April 16th and in this video, I discuss what you need to be eligible.
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Actually, it is open to the public, i.e. American citizens, who meet the educational requirements. I don't see how this is different from any other professional job. "Open to the public" means you don't have to already be an employee of NASA, the Air Force, or another government agency to be eligible to apply to the job.
A lot of people were sending Ellie the application mistakenly believing that "open to the public" meant "Ellie can go!"
My favorite part of the Job Description was the Travel Required section. It UNDER states: “Extensive travel required”.
Lol- INTERGALACTIC maybe someday
To the moon and back. Hehe
I have always said that NASA should look to the Navy Submarine Service for applicants. They learned a long time ago to weed out the doers from the want-a-bes. For us food was the only issue. We made everything else.
And maybe a bit of the Navy as well. We had to do a lot of that training, swimming and confined spaces, NuclearBiologicalChemicalDefence Training, Firefighting and some very rough seas. I was 1 of a handful that were not sea-sick during a 3 day storm one time. I couldn't even muster enough crew mates (11 plus myself), to get our daily beer issue from the Duty Officer. LOL. I'm sure he thought I was crazy. Some people can and some people can't handle the motion. But Ellie pointed out in the ZeroG Flight, that some immune from sea-sickness, were not immune from that event. So some may have the right education, but not the right biology for space. The chosen few certainly have my admiration.
Being a true professional astronaut will always be a one in a million shot for exceptional individuals. That ability to rise to the occasion and perform best when faced with danger and heavy over-stimulation is a true talent that few people have. It's a good thing that the leaders in the space programs around the world do their best to make sure that's the kind of individual they have in the seat at blastoff. For the rest of us, some day, when it becomes safe enough, mission planners will be looking for a more regular type of crew member (tourist, journalist, colonist, skilled technicians), then we will get our chance to go.
There will be much work to do, to set up a permanent moonbase transition beyond experimental status. Much of which is not to be done by astronauts. But one generation ahead, we will also have robots.
Sally Ride and I were friends in graduate school. I still remember when she told me that she just applied to the astronaut program. Naturally, I thought it was cool, and I asked about how I could submit an application. Sally looked up at me and frankly said that I could not apply. I am 6' 4" tall, which was too tall to fit in a trainer jet ejection seat.
Well, until space travel becomes colonization they have to have people who can actually contribute at a high level of specialized skills to complete the missions.
That suggests that "normal" people are too dumb to contribute anything, which is far from the truth.
You should just plan on attending SpaceCamp in Huntsville, AL. You can be an astronaut there for the 1 or 2 week long program that they produce!🤔
Yes I wonder if they’d let me do it for free as a story
@@ellieinspace All you can do is ask. All they can do is say No! It'd be good for introducing young people to STEM programs and get them interested.
I can't see "regular" people going to Mars until a well established base is running smoothly.
Setting up a base on Mars will require a very skilled team of experts. Everyone will need multiple skills incase someone can't do their job for any reason. A single mistake could cost them all thier lives. Maintaining good physical and definitely mental health will be critical on a long/challenging mission. No time for tourists.
Indeed. The philosophy of a Mars Settler, will have to be always considering and thinking of how you will affect the 'society' by your actions. No selfish individuals need apply for the job. Guess that will knock off a few of the 'Big Ego' wannabe's.
Extremely interesting video Ellie...Thank you for making this for all of us.
Very interesting Ellie, thanks for deep diving into the entry requirements for both the NASA astronaut candidate and Chapea programmes.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I applied in the late 90's....never heard back 😢
Yeah it's for special people, blue origin was for the rest of us "Tourists" types. Check out Kerbal by Scott Manley and if you can built a ship and land it on the moon you have a shot otherwise continue doing what you are great at which is covering this stuff and keeping your followers informed. Stay safe!
As a space fanatic, who developed arthritis at age 9, ive known the sadness that is it will be very unlikely i will ever get to go to space. even though the zero g would probably feel pretty good on my achy joints.
One item re the CHAPEA mission is that they are researching the needs of NASA astronauts on aa Mars mission. This will be a much simpler (and therefore more likely to get data desired) study. Private industry is where studies for larger, broader skillset, groups that will be needed for colonization. A more specialized and curated group (less than the NASA requirements, but still strict) is going to be needed for initial survey and infrastructure missions.
Private industry will be where folks with fewer qualifications but in greater numbers will come about. Don't rely on government programs.
Current and former Submariners make perfect candidates. We're quite used to long periods of isolation from the world at large.
Not the first thought in that direction. In Babylon5, even the Earth WarShips looked like submarines.
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It's like when the blue angels advertise that they are taking applications.
The best Astronaut plan for you, Ellie, is Mars Starship via SpaceX, where their plan is to make life multi-planetary, but you will still need to fill the job requirements to get to be on the list. Even then the first personnel will not be just anyone, you will have to be the best of the best to make the mission successful for the Mars Colony. NASA will always have restrictions simply because they are a pioneering program or is science-orientated. My advise to you is hop a rided with a billionaire; they have a history of bring servants with them to New Worlds.
Thanks, Ellie!
You're so welcome!
A well thoughtout and informative video!
Well done, Ellie!
Mark my words, once a base has been established on the Moon, SpaceX and hopefully other companies will start recruiting ordinary people for populating and expanding the base. We're going to need electricians, IT guys, janitors, the works up there. Sure, you'll have to be in good health, but I think it would be wise to also start a medical division and accept people who have certain conditions like for example atherosclerosis, and find out which conditions are a bonafide no-go and which conditions have no effect on space travel. Of course these people would have to accept the risks and be fine with them but that would not be a problem as the fact they applied means they already accepted.
This is a serious endeavour and no stone should be left unturned in finding out exactly what one can and what one can NOT do in space.
On the moon base note: I suspect SpaceX will investigate building starships destined for Mars, on the Moon. it would greatly decrease the fuel needs as the gravity is 1/6th that of Earth.
It is overstatement to say that this is not open to the public. Anyone from any walk of life that meets the qualifications may apply. That is no different from the overwhelming majority of jobs. There is no arbitrary restriction beyond the qualifications required.
The Mars analog sounds like how it was to be deployed in the Army.
Ellie, use this as a road map so that you can be ready for the next one.
I'm glad they have these requirements. This isn't Disneyland.
I graduated from LA Tech. Great engineering school.
This was a very different kind of video and yet so directly related to space science! Cool!
Since childhood I wanted to be an astronaut. Now at age 60 I have expected that I am too old. BUT I qualify if all the details that you mentioned in you video so I will look into it. 👍🌞👍
Ellie; if you ever want to go to the moon or beyond, you'll have to be able to fly whatever you see. Especialy as a reporter!
Imagine: a space tourist, but he wants to pay installation of the new moon database center. First is to examine possible extension of the power source, which is nuclear. A professional astronaut flies him there and you got yourself a live story. It's a few miles outside the base and while your out there, some accident happens. There's just too much possible for to imagine a specific shit, but the astronaut is in serious trouble. You better fly him back to base now.
You see, there is this thing called redundancy. And you don't use a troop transporter to examine the power plant. There's only three seats availlable and shit happens, any time. Without professional astronaut training, you wont be able to cover any news that you couldn't also do from here.
The thing about every one of them having several doctor titles; they can finish each others jobs without wasting time on detail explanations. Matters can change when a functioning moon base reaches a critical size. There's not even an experimental base yet. So that may take one, probably two generations, before anything other than eggheads & supertourists get their chances.
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Like You, Ellie, I wouldn't qualify. I'm retired and a 73 year old grandpa widower. BUT, I do dream of space flight! 🙂 Heinlein, Asimov and Del Rey are among my favorite authors 🙂
When I went through this, you had to be a graduate from the Air Force Academy to even be considered. Ok, how do I get into the AFA? You need the recommendations of two congressmen. And have a 4.0 GPA. :( Well I didn't have a 4.0 so no go. I didn't bother to find out how to get a congressional recommendation. I did, however, get the AFA's course catalog. They recommended a degree in aerospace engineering to get into NASA. It looked really interesting.
With Chapea, teh ones to extend it beyond technical people would be SpaceX. NASA is exploration, thus the tech requirement, whereas SpaceX is planning a new Colony. The analog would be Christopher Columbus, Magelan and Marco Polo, on their expeditions they only brough the people needed to safely get them to the destination and back. It was many trips later when they started to bring Farmers and Families to start permanent colonies.
Maybe they could launch one of those luxury liner ships into space. Space ready of course.
Don't feel bad Ellie. I am 63 years old with health issues including heart and kidney conditions. Heck, even if I had the money, I wouln't even be a good candidate to ride in Blue Origen like William Shadner did a couple of years ago, who in spite of being much older than me, is in good health.
But here's an idea. Stay in touch with Elon and Space X. Maybe one day when the Starship is proven you might be able to hitch a ride on one to fly around the moon. You could offer to be the flight's reporter and write and video record about it. Hey, it could happen.
After Tim, there'll be a flurry of reporters wanting to hitch a ride.
@@paulmichaelfreedman8334 Probably so. But Ellie I feel is a great candidate given how persistently she has covered the evolution of the Star Ship and Space X in general. I mean, who knows.
Lowering standards for colonization would really require that you have support of more competent people around you… Just like life right now. Until there’s a critical mass of people for support, you are on your own and, at best, you will have a couple people depending heavily on you should an emergency arise. Do not relax the standards.
We'll get you to space one day Ellie in Space!
What is the Japeah mission?
Are there any age limitations?
There should be a oppertunity for those of us that are too old and have a few health problems, to go mars for a while and be the first fertilizer .
NASA should really get us current and former sub guys, we're underwater in something equivalent to a real "spaceship" for 3-9 months at a time on deployment. And there's been enough of us that there's real data on crew component and makeup. Not to mention psych eval's and requirements.
That would really give them a good starting datum on how colonist crew should be assembled.
Thanks Ellie.
You’re welcome 😊
When I was 25 I would have been a great candidate, high IQ , great physical condition having been a competitive Swimmer, but stuck in a little backwater country, NZ … a lot of our top rocket scientists actually helped NASA in the Moonshot and the Space Shuttle years. And NASA ignored them at their peril … see challenger the disaster … I think at the time America wasn’t interested in looking outside their own pool of keen candidates, it’s nice to see a change these days …
I would qualify but don’t want to do it. Met the technical and pilot qualifications. But don’t like the isolation aspect. 😊
Of course they're only looking for highly educated, disciplined, mentally stable people for their earth-based lock-in!
That mission is not going to be like going to a friend's house to watch the game! They're going to be developing protocols for extended moon missions and/or18-month Mars missions. Joe Blow from Kokomo would likely not be very useful in helping plan to the tiniest detail a mission like that while also doing science on lab creatures and/or other members of the crew.
Everyone should also have considerable knowledge of the spacecraft, and its systems, should anything go wrong. and someone gets injured. That brings up another thing...medical problems. Say that one of the people locked in becomes extremely sick...and its the one with the medical degree!...everyone needs to have more than rudimentary training in first aid!
These lock-ins will be working, sleeping, eating, exercising, and putting up with the annoying little quirks of, people that they will also be spending every waking minute listening to, looking at, and smelling. They will be far closer to those people than they would be to any spouse. Think about that seriously for a couple minutes!
I also have a sneaking suspicion that there may be 'challenges' that com into the test chamber from a remote control room...like is done in a pilot training simulator.
Once there's a functioning Moon or Mars 'bus', they can relax a bit and let regular people take the trip. Of course, we've all seen the fights on airliners...we ARE talking ten days to the Moon and 18 months to Mars and back, so...DO we ever want to open it up to everyone?!!
NASA must also have all the information from the Biosphere 1 and 2 trials that were done, I think it must have been about 20 years ago?
The first 1 failed, as the scientists that set it up, did not take into consideration, the amount of oxygen that was consumed by the bacteria in the soil. They had to sterilize the soil and reset the test. I think the 2nd one was cut short, because of a break down amongst the social interactions of the group. They started to isolate and stopped working as a team IIRC.
ISS has been running for an entire generation. Now it is slowly opening. The new private stations in LEO may begin the real proccess of opening to the public. At the same time, moonbase will be built and take the long transition from experimental to well functioning. Again the 2nd generation will begin the opening proccess. Thats about the time we reach Mars - in NASA-time.
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Years ago I had hoped to be an astronaut that was 50 years ago !
I can't be an astronaut YET.
I am not surprised at the criteria; could you imagine Dirk from Alabama former crop duster who almost lives on grits and fried chicken and steak up there? Or overly entitled Britney from Los Angeles who lives like barbie there - imagine her "ick" list? You have to filter out those unable to take the very dangerous and isolating realities of space. I think eventually there will be a time when they say, er yeah we need civil servants to take out the trash or menial tasks below astronauts, that's when we get the call. But hey, you could get live Netflicks to your brain!
We need angels here on earth Ellie.
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I think we all participated in an isolated and confined envirionment for a couple years (thank you Covid).
Take me with you to Japan!!
They are limiting themselves way too much. Many people are more than capable of doing these missions but have never followed any of these fields for any number of reasons. At some point they will have to relax many of these limits in order to fill roles, probably sooner than later.
Was that Charlie Duke at the begining?
Maybe they upped the screening after diaper lady attempted kidnapping incident...
But you CAN be an Astronaut Ellie!!! Alice Kramden went to the moon and she had NO Qualifications whatsoever!!!! 🤣🤣🤣
yeah if these people remain in charge you are never going to space, ever
Ellie, i am counting on you going to Mars. Spacex needs a reporter and you are very qualified. Elon will be sending thousands of people before NASA gets started
With respect to your suggestion that NASA lower their qualification standards for Astronaut applicants, please allow me to VEHEMENTLY DISAGREE…
She didn't say that at all. Just the isolation test on Earth.
Exactly
I talked about lowering requirements for CHAPEA mission
Hey dood. We the human race cannot send ALL of our Great minds to space, space astronauts need to also be Laundry folks, chef, cooks, Laborers, students, tourists, basically tourists are you and me and can be at any decent health and not a killer.
Still a young woman Ellie, plenty time if you wanted to achieve requirements. The older you are in space the less time you have left to develop health issues due to radiation, etc.
Personally I’m happy to watch the launches on UA-cam enjoying Earth’s comforts.
They only hire test pilots and PhDs.
Always seemed weird to me that astronaut training required so much flight training. Drives me nuts every time i hear it. Spaceflight is completely different than atmosphere aviation.
Seems Ellie is jealous to stay, as normal people, on our planet… So, welcome back again on Earth, Ellie ! :-)
The best way to become an astronaut is through the Air Force. They have a preference for military personnel and test pilots because space is dangerous. Even if Elon gets the Starship working this year, it will take 10 years just to perfect it. I think you're early to the game. Reporters and influencers will probably fly in 7-10 years plus. Once the Starship is stable, then Elon can easily take anyone.
I could get my masters in CS but I already make more than the starting salary so I'm out.
Per Jerry Pournelle, requiring a masters degree was stupid. Space construction will require relatively you g adults, due to their greater stamina
It is open to the public to apply. You're probably not gonna get the job unless you have or equivalent.
In 20 years the requirement will be money. Do you have more than $1million dollars? Perfect, please come aboard!
Great informative video Ellie but I also think there should be a requirement that one does not have any religious affiliations -we don't need religious nut jobs that start praying every time something goes wrong up there in space. We need evolutionary scientist who will use "I'm gonna have to science the s... out of this."-as Matt Damon said in "The Martian." :)
You're saying that my extensive experience as a Sandwich Artist doesn't qualify me to be an astronaut? What a sham.
Personally, I wouldn't wanted to become an astronaut. They control too much of ones life.
I don't understand that former Military. and Law Enforcement along wing a degree, and in perfect health cant apply. Look at past Dragon flights. If X want to take everyone to Mars, why is there a high demand for fortunate people? Isn't right. Think about it. If you meet the PT requirements, and are good at math, you should be good to go.
I can get you credentialed, you'll have to come live with me though.
Why not
Nuclear submarine mates should be given some sort of consideration
Wait for spaceX. Surely Musky will be more egalitarian. :-)
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It's my stuff , it just isn't right ....
i betcha spacex will have different requirements. no way i'd be a nasa astronaut; most have no hope of an actual flight.
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This makes sense. I would like to design and run an analog moon base. I would allow non stem people like reporters.
I am 1) Too old to be an astronaut. 2) I am not a pilot. 3) I do not have a MS degree. Sorry 😔
7:58 Having U.S. Citizenship doesn't tell the whole requirement. They mean "only". You cannot have dual citizenship, for example.
You are not the astronaut type, Ellie!
How about applying for a job at spacex in your field ? After watching NASA car crash conference yesterday the space travel needs someone like you
Why would I want to quit my UA-cam when I am not beholden to anyone or anything?
But you could still could do you and just be and a special guest from UA-cam covering the star ship launches at star base control ! Would be fun for everyone to watch and connect with everyone a lot of NASAs recent coverage on anything is drab to say the least
a Reporter is the last thing we want going to another planet......
Well that makes no sense. Interplanetary travel is both news and history, and scientists, engineers, and test pilots would generally be heads- down working the entire mission, while it would be useful to have those focused on documenting the mission and sharing with the world. Their observations, notes, and interviews along the way can be very helpful.
I think you're confusing astronauts with passengers. Real astronauts have to have The Right Stuff. Passengers only have to have a ticket.
As for you Ellie, I think you should get a seat on Starship as soon as it's safe as the reporter for the mission. I also think that the missions of SpaceX should divorce themselves from NASA at some stage to preserve their integrity for one - Then run their own missions, train and recruit their own personnel and make their own testing centre.
Trump should be eligible , if NASA doesn't want him SpaceX could use the lump as cargo.
TDS alert.
I don't think any of the "builders" of StarShip could go to space if they have to follow these "guidelines". But I'm sure repair-crews/buliders are needed for ANY long time spaceflight. If I could go, You can go as my "wife"😊
I'm a machinist with 35yrs experience, if I'm not qualified then good luck making anything on Mars. Engineers don't make things they design them and then take the credit.
Spoken like a true butthurt machinist who doesn’t think they get enough credit for something they made.
Lol. No need for putting cylinder sleeves in a 1950s Johne Deere tractor on Mars. I think we'll survive losing your 'magical' talents.
Being older you would have a lower risk of cancer from the radiation too.
To be fair you do barf a lot. Hey, do they weigh the bags afterwards and like give out awards as compensation?
I can meet all these requirements, but I make over $500k a year, so I don’t think I should risk death for a pay cut to $150k, which is below the Biden poverty level now.
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Ellie, you can't be a NASA astronaut.... Instead you can do a "Looking Back" video when you are working in Musk City on Mars in 20 years time ;-)
We all have to support Ellie and her channel so that she becomes a $billionaire and can buy a seat to space.
No thanks I cant take the pay cut.
It won't be very hard for a successful businessman in Austin to buy a flight or a gootube star to get a free ride.
Please no more whinning videos