Tories are turning their own supporters against them | Jo Tanner
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- “Sorry isn’t enough.”
Rishi Sunak’s D-Day blunder is “a turning point” for the Tories and their supporters, says political and communications strategist Jo Tanner.
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Goodbye Tories. It hasn't been pleasant.
Wait until Labour get in - it will make 2019-24 look like the good old days.
@@JupiterThunderoh how so? Do tell? How about under labour the NHS had its highest satisfaction? Yeah bad that isn’t it. How about waiting lists at 6 months and under not like now -18 months.
Yeah..wow - was really awful wasn’t it.
@@JupiterThundera bit like Brexit has made WWII look like the good old days?
@@JupiterThunder Phew! Good point, but judging by the squeaky responses you already received from some of the cult faithful, it seems The "Times" (or at least its YT bolt-on) is now just another rancid Metro-leftist Woke propaganda mill and "correct" mantra provider to the clueless indoctrinated. 🤣🤣🤣
Glad I cancelled my subscription two decades ago, t.b.h.😁
@@DrLogical987 Really? HOW?
PS; try to actually frame an argument you can back with some objective facts instead of just squeaking out another ludicrous assertion, hmm?
'The Tories have had not a great week.' Understated understatement of the year!
The week just gone has nearly sunk them.
Sunk? How dare you take the leader's name in vain?
The years just gone have really sunk them!
Well it definitely Sunaked them!
Sunak them you mean
The tories have been sunacked he he
I think Labour have taken Napoleons advice to never interfere when your enemy is making a mistake.
Does anyone seriously still intend to vote Tory? Or, to put it another way, does anyone honestly believe this country is in better shape than it was 15 years ago?
The 65+ plus ie basically the white boomer vote is the only demographic still voting Tory wholesale...
Sunak is a disgrace. Will be remembered for the total failure he is
Who do you reckon will fix our country?
@@jonjones6583 What makes you think it can be fixed?
@@gio-oz8gf in my humble opinion, if there is a fix we as a country are looking at possibly 4 decades of recovery. Yes your are Correct, no party in my opinion is able to fix anything anytime in the next 8 years!
@@gio-oz8gf Of course it can be fixed. As long as people are okay with the fact that it will take time and won't be pain free.
@@jonjones6583independence for England
This government should be in jail for treason
civ service too.
Turning point no, the pundit is correct. The final nail in the coffin, yes.
Tories "not a great week" and Labour "middling"? Seriously? From those comments you'd imagine a roughly equivalent week. Here's what actually happened. Between Farage and Sunak's lies and D Day faux pas the Tories' are pretty much over. Which pretty much confirms Labour as the next government. So Tories, beyond dire week. Labour absolutely fantastic week.
Farrage hasn’t lied.
@@midknight44he meant farage coming back, and sunak's lies. Not that they were both lying
@@midknight44he lied about brexit he lies all the time
@@midknight44Wormtongue has opened his mouth and he hasn’t done that without lying since 1982…
@@alanpage3973 like what? any examples?
Out of office for a generation.
FOR EVER
A lot longer than that, they keep pushing further and further to the right and now far right, appealing to geriatric voters. The average age of tory members is 75 and that number keeps going up. Unless they change how their leadership elections work they won't get near government ever again. It seems likely that they'll try to get farage into the party after the election, which may win them more votes but will also motivate far, far more people to vote against them, no matter how much the bbc platform him and his vile racist views. Britain, like most nations, is a fundamentally centrist country, it's not going to elect the far right unless we experience something like losing a major war or some other catastrophe.
A generation is around 25 years - that's not long enough.
A generation is around 25 years - that's not long enough.
I remember pundits predicting the end of the Tories back in 1998. Vigilance , people !
Sunak left early to cross the channel on a small boat hoping he would get caught and sent to Rwanda so he could shout “hey look my Rwanda plan works”.
One can only hope that this same dynamic plays out in the United States with the Republicans. Vote every single Conservative (and every Republican) out of office this year.
Keep in mind, whatever you hear, that this is a pro Tory channel, so there's some bias.
Lots, they would clearly take any Tory government over anything else no matter how dreadful, a lot of people need to deal with their addiction to Tory self interest
Maybe once they were. I haven't seen much of that recently but perhaps you can give me an example?
Mainstream media seems to be bias to the right wing. I think Rupert Murdoch owns times radio- and we know he has a right wing agenda.
❤Precisely
@@clearspirathat's what the media do when the writing is on the wall. As soon as Starmer is sworn in, they will be anti-Labour and cheerleading for the Tories.
Can't see much point in a Tory manifesto. But I guess you can promise anything if you're not going to be in a position to do anything.
Just going through the motions
@@alanwatterson2850 Much as one does in UK water these days.
"The first thing we did after every election victory was to bin the manifesto" -- Kenneth Clarke MP
And yet the greens have a manifesto
@@EdDueim 😅
I send a child to a private school. The imposing of VAT on fees will cost me, probably more than any other hike on earnings could achieve. BUT it doesn’t stop me voting for and hoping for a Labour victory. I hate this idea that in the mess the Tories are leaving behind that people are not prepared to recognize that they may have to carry a further tax burden to actually support the society they are a part of
Thank you, Andrew. Sunak, like Boris and Cameron, are sons of wealth and the many, many privileges it confers. It's nice to hear from a wealthy subscriber who appears to understand that wealth does not confer compassion, immortality, or even common sense when it comes to leading (not reigning over) any population of even remotely sentient beings.
Well said - those with the broadest shoulders (including me) can contribute more, we need to think about improving the nation, making our economy stronger and fixing public services (Water, power, railways, even potholes and underfunding local councils, and the NHS), paying people fair wages and not giving our pals massive contracts for things they cannot provide (PPE, Track and Trace, Infosys IT contracts - to Rishi's Dad-in-law and wastage of millions on vanity schemes like Rwanda) - the corruption needs to be followed up, the guilty need to be imprisoned and the fraud money (like that Rishi has decided not to go for) should be returned. This election should be about punishing the Tories for everything they have done in the past 14 years.
You seem to have Stockholm syndrome my friend, as the current level of taxation can only sensibly be described as theft. If you add it all up (income tax, NI, employee NI contributions, VAT, fuel duty, green taxes, council tax, stamp duty, CGT, taxes on alcohol and tobacco, etc, etc, etc) you'll already be paying 2/3 to 3/4 of your wages to the government as tax, in order that they can waste the majority of that money on virtue signalling projects to make themselves feel better.
@@footube3 not at all. A sense of what is necessary after 14 years of misrule and an economy destroying Brexit of what is unnecessarily needed to try to fix this mess. Of course the real solution is to undo Brexit but that is t going to happen- at least not for a long time
@@footube3 Hmmm Swedish levels of taxation and services - interesting. Better than bitcon scams I guess
Its time we had a Reformation in our politics1
When Liz Truss was ensconced as PM the writing was on the wall. That was 2022.
The lettuce would have done less damage.
@@alanwatterson2850 My own view is that the Referendum was the real break but few people realized it. Dadum-dadum.
Well the writing was on the wall when the choice put to the party was Sunk or Truss.
@@davidwright7193 That is when it became obvious. Now it is obvious to Tory Media. Remember, many have been calling for an election for some time now.
The Tories have always been split but the referendum brought it all to the surface. The Brexit disaster had to roll out for all to see the set the dye for all that we see today.
Can you imagine the impact Starmer pulling that letter out of his jacket pocket during the debate would have had? They need to sharpen up.
The D Day snub likely means people erring on Reform will tip Reform mulling it over with their poll card.
The tax thing only ran on in Tory media.
There's a lot of it.
Meaning most media.
Unfortunately that’s where much of the electorate choose to get their “information” read propaganda
Maybe Sunak could take a large sum out of Infosys's profits and donate it to WW2 veterans. He might be told to shove his donation, but it might go a bit further than a weak apology.
Load of levies trying to ignore the Conservatives melting down
Lets face it, the way the Tories are conducting there campaign, let alone normal day to day business thus far, Labour can just sit back and watch the slow-motion train crash unfold before them, zero work to have to do!
Rishi has shot himself in the foot so many times in the short space of only two weeks that both his feet now resemble colanders.
I mean things were bad for the Conservatives before he announced the GE, mostly due to there total ineptitude at governing, but turns out that campaigning for re-election there even worse at!! I fully expect the latest polls to show they've gone yet further behind in them, which is quite an achievement considering most expected things to get closer.
Easiest win for any party is to guarantee seeking prosecutions for people behind the post office scandal, followed by the idiots on the health board that ignored warnings about Lucy Letby.
Contaminated blood
@@therealrobertbirchall yeah…let’s not forget about that either!
@smunro1983 as a survivor of that act of criminal negligence and the subsequent cover up I will never forget nor will my family.
Yeah, no ones bothered about record numbers of CHILDREN AVOIDING MEALS DUE TO POVERTY.. what people are actually bothered about is the post office and a single psychopath. Go outside.
@@rednaxelA11 plenty of us in Scotland are worried about children missing meals. That's why we voted for a £25 pw child supplement for every child in every family in Scotland. About the only good thing the SNP have ever done.🏴
Bye Tories. Nobody under 50 will miss you.
You will , when you're older and wiser.
No fan of the Tories but if you think it’s bad now just wait until Labour have been in for a few years. Things can always get worse and with Labour they most certainly will sadly.
@@johnwilliams-gz4ss Advancing age is by no means a guarantee of increased wisdom.
@@midknight44 I call BS. Literally everything was better in 2010: look at the stats. Economy hasn't grown in 14 years and is in tatters, taxes at their highest in living memory, NHS dropped off a cliff, justice system broken, raw sewage in our waterways, corruption through the roof, laughing stock on the world stage (except for Ukraine, I'll give the Tories that), education in ruins, union in doubt and may collapse. I think that only scratches the surface.
@@31Blaize 💯 accurate but don’t hold your breath waiting for a comeback because you’re better off waiting for Godot ‘Labour will be worse’ is all you EVER get!! No because… no list of destructive policies…no Tory achievements they will undermine….. nothing! Nada! Rien! Just simply ‘Labour will be worse’
*I have seen many strange and inexplicable things in my 68 years of life, but few as incontinently weird as Jo Tanner's glasses... OMFG!* 🥺😧😰👓💩
The prime minister did not want to be seen at D-Day with foreigners. He attended the British events but left so as not to be seen with the outsiders. Probably thinking that would go well with the Brexit lot.
I'm European and I'm so happy that the lunatics we call the English left the EU. Please take your time before you all agree to apply to join.
Sunak is a cold, arrogant narcissist…+ Karma is right at his heels. I would like to be a fly on the wall when he has to face the humiliation he’s placed at his Father in Law’s doorstep! 🤔 Will he be ousted by him too??????
Hooray for Nigel Farage, the greatest British politician of our time.
Goodbye Conservative party
Welcome Reform uk 🇬🇧
Why the inarticulate people
Reform all the way
Reform are just Poundshop Tories. At least vote for the real thing.
Lead the country ? - Ritchie Sunak couldn't lead starving kittens to a bowl of milk.
It's almost as if The Times wants Labour to win 🤔
No, but it's hard to find an attack line. Kier was there.
Not like their Tory bosses are making it easy for them. The writing's on the wall now that the Tory line has changed to begging people to make sure they at least get into opposition and not come in 3rd or 4th.
Sneaking the radio ads into the UA-cam videos is a new thing 😂
Yes we got to watch her pick her nails while pushing Macdonald’s 🤢
£££££££££££ yes!
@@debb6393 interesting, wasn't it?
I voted Conservative before, but they have brought these problems on themselves so never again. They need to rid themselves of Mogg,for a Start, people just don't like many of the present set.
"He left them on them on the beaches." #radicaldemocrat
If sunak was Pinocchio, imagine how big his nose would be.
JOB VACANCY :
A Prime Minister required.
No Time Wasters please.
Best way to describe Sunaks disgusting vanishing act …arrogance
They’re so arrogant they don’t think anyone cares so why should they pretend to care 🤷🏻♂️
I don’t want more police but more police accountability. Tory politics are failing and we need a fairer justice system with proper accountability.
My theory: Sunak (whom I do not like) has been stitched up. Cameron wanted to be there, with the big chiefs. He somehow convinced Sunak that as a PM it was his job to head the campaign, and he Cameron would sacrifice himself and hold the fort.
This is such a missed opportunity: as a PM with ties to the Indian sub-continent and Africa, Sunak could have represented all the soldiers from these areas who sacrificed their lives.
On another note: his public school bullying act in the first debate was awful and despicable.
It is infinitely difficult for any party to pursue a policy that the party's voters disagree with. It can only backfire.
I see advertisers don't boycott Times Radio like they do GB News.
I utterly reject the idea that whoever wins will have to make spending cuts. It depends on how much tax one can raise to boost govt. income. There are plenty of sources for extra taxes AND to cut the standard rate by at least 2p AND raise thresholds, boost spending AND reduce interest rates AND promote growth.
I see Kate has a job sitting down now. Much safer for her !!
Sunak a weak person who doesn’t understand politics.
He is a Tory, just wants the corruption
If Liz Truss was a lettuce 🥬, what vegetable would Rishi Sunak be? Something short, obviously.
A turnip?
A pea.
A mushy pea
@@therealrobertbirchall As someone from across the pond, I would agree with a turnip. Buried deep underground oblivious to the outside world while being too thick & hard to understand unless it got boiled in really hot water. Probably would not change no matter how long you leave it out.
aubergine
There's no need to panic! Rishi has a plan! Tomorrow he is going to hold a presser to pay tribute to a beloved performer from the past: he's going to dress as Jimmy Savile and sing a Gary Glitter song.... why not, can't get any more offensive, can he?!
I, for one, will NEVER vote Conservative after 60 years of support for as long as Rishi (Richie) Sunak is leader .
I come from many generations of the military including my father who fought in Burma to keep the Japanese out of India and feel totally disgusted! 😡
Someone pointed out how terrified those lads who went to fight must’ve been terrified and Sunak could not be bothered to stay for the afternoon. Eighty years of commemoration and it’s like he didn’t know what was expected ? Personally as well I can’t believe he keeps saying that he managed to go to all the British ones and dismissing the other countries that sent their young who died so we are free.
Inexcusable.
It's better for sunak to keep quiet and have people suspect that he's a clown, than to open his mouth and remove all doubt.
Kate spinning like a top - Tories = 'not a great week', Labour = 'not awful'. I'm sorry, but that's Kuenssbergian levels of misrepresenting what was just said to put the Tories in a better light!
Dont let the door hit you on your way out to oblivion
I think Rishi Rich is going to resign and David Cameron will step in.
People will say what they want about Rishi Sunak, but as an overseas viewer I think Prime Minister Sunak brought the UK up a few notches on the scale of respectablity across the world with Prime Minister Sunak at the helm. We have to remember that being a Prime Minister is like walking a long plank that keeps getting shorter with each step you take.
Of course the Tories aren't big for D-Day, look how many of them would have been Nazi's given the chance. It's not a celebration for them
Sunak have the decency to leave go away from my country
I'm afraid of what is to come .Promises or actions
For an outsider, the events on D-Day were very symbolic. Sunak, the leaver, left and Cameron, the remainer, remained.
sunak, starmer, macron, trudeau, biden, zelensky and netanyahu are competing for the clown of the year award. It's going to be a close contest this year.
So true that's why ive gone with Reform uk
Me too
Vote out to help out. 14 years of decline vote Labour 😅😅😅😅😅😅
The volume level is so low on Times Radio compared with other channels !!
JOIN THE REVOLT VOTE REFORM UK every time.
If Kier Stamer had delt with £2000 saga in the debate, would Sunak have the need leg it from D-Day ceremony, for an interview about him lying?
I think Starmer played a blinder and let Sunak bury himself in his incompetent nonsense
So it's Starmer's fault then.
are you seriously saying...it's Starmer's Fault....?! Think it through mate....
@@therealrobertbirchallfault? No, Starmer doesn't tell Sunak what to do, Sunak has free will.
@stephenhill545 dose he? I thought he was controlled by Elon Musk over the Bluetooth chip implanted in his head. They thought they would have to fit a child's version of the chip, but when they opened his head up they found his brain is so small and shrivelled that they had room for a super chip that turns his gaze into a death Ray for tory voters.
Sunak is a disgrace
Let’s be honest, no member of UK public believes a single politician and all parties are a catastrophe. Until we get rid of first past the post, will we get any true representation of the UK public. Also, let’s be brutally honest, a growing group of UK public no longer believe or listen to main-stream media, due to biases and peddling lies of politicians. When you analyse this, the UK is truly broken. Honest analysis is needed (This can’t happen due to cancellation of views with labelling extreme/far left or right of common people. Common people are labelled and called Populist, which actually translated simply means democracy in action, which those on 6th June 1944 fought & died, to have common people to actually have democracy) and honest solution and effect broadcast to the public. Democracy is being destroyed inside out in 2024, when in 1939 is was from outside in. The battle ahead leads to only one simple analysis, a modern, hopefully peaceful revolution within the UK is rapidly coming down the train track and Labour winning is not that train, it is part of the problem that will cause revolution.
Absolutely spot on
No politicians have support anymore.... You keep driving this at the tories, but everyone is sick of the entire government.
The Government are only the Tories.
The government is only the tories the shadow government hasn't had a chance yet mate give them a chance
Not that "They're all the same" nonsense. The Tories are egregious.
The government is the Tories, haven't you noticed? You see, the way it works is that the party with the most MPs forms the government. The other politicians have no power. Geddit?
Try and find out a bit more about how British politics works, otherwise all you have is an impression based on a massively biased media
Can't they cut the Asda and McDonald's ads out of the video uploads?
Cant stand Bolton ! He’s a tory brown noser , and gave softball , saccharine interviews to tories over last 14 years on sky !
Ed Milliband...Good grief!
Ah 12.23 on the timeline. The Tory FM compare trying to push her discredited Partys line on Tax.
Bye bye Tories , Tories goodbye 👋
Sunak is like having Alan Partridge running the campaign. I'm waiting for him to say he's 'bouncing back' when of course, he isn't.
Have.......................!
After 5 minutes Reform was not mentioned. I then gave up listening.
Who are they? Never heard of them..lol... Was thinking the same.. Well I know where my vote is going...
Let's see how Tory FM spin this
The King was there, the president of the United States was there, nobody paid attention to the prime minister. What's the big deal?
'The King' = The Commander of the Armed Forces
I keep trying to think what on earth is next, it can only be a week of ministers and Rushi asking the country to remember which Party wanted Brexit and then delivered the hardest Brexit they could get….that ought to do it Get the election done could be the new mantra
Tax the rich, hard.
Beyond belief offensive wasn't it?
Suddenly "Lions at London Zoo" and confused looks. I just switched off thinking it was adtube again.
Soonsacked is as bad as Truss and Boris
Possibly worse, but Boris opened the clown cupboard
Far worse imo
The votors have had enough of tory rule they are.c Rying out for change farage is a breath of fresh air for t he. COuntry its reform for me
So now we know what presenters do during breaks for commercials -( err advertising breaks in non Grandpa speak .)
What poor sound balance. Come on Times Radio, you can do better than that.
You've only just discovered Toey supporters are turning against the Party? It's been happening for yours.
what is the collective noun for nasty lefties?
I think he should debate Medhi Hasan or James O'Brien. They would eat him for breakfast. He would not go 23999 miles near them. He cherry picks the venue and the audience.
O’Brien is cancer.
11:07 I love your channel and your audience, I'm gonna comment on ALL your videos for years until I reach your level of subscribers.
I don like the moniker 'Richie Soon-sacked'.
Don’t say HS2 by by conservatives
Turning point?? !!
When did the campaign go south for the Tories?
When you've made the south pole your residence, the one other direction is north. Hence thing's can only get better. Lol😅
Without raising some taxes for the well-off and cutting defence, roads and tax breaks (non-doms etc), labour cannot improve the catastrophic state of school buildings, the NHS, higher education and research post-Brexit, climate change mitigation and focussed foreign aid which would reduce some immigration BTW, you may ask yourselves, what is the point of Labour? and rather vote for the Greens, LibDems, SNP and true independents
Never seen so many out-of-touch commentators as here. The main election issue is excess immigration!
No it's not it's the cost of living and the NHS
@@alanpage3973 Problems within both caused by excessive immigration growth ..
@@paulfrancis3237 nothing to do with immigration please stop reading the daily mail
Well little England strikes again leaving the third largest party in Westminster alone, after all it’s only Scotland, the last colony.
SNP predicted to go from 48 to 16 seats in GE, LibDem predicted 8 to 61.
You said it.
Noice.
I wish i could say its been a pleasure. But i do nt do lies bye tories 😊
🎉
What just happened mc Donald s adverts 😂is this real or was times radio hacked 😂😂
Labour turning to reform here in the North ❤
😂🤣😂