Immigrants, robots, and farmers | Inside the most Brexit town in Britain
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- Опубліковано 22 вер 2024
- It wasn't a surprise when Boston in Lincolnshire voted for Brexit with the highest vote share of anywhere in the UK. The market town had seen immigration at a breakneck pace.
The town's immigrant population increased by 460% between 2004 and 2014, then multiplied by ten between 2011 and 2021. The town looked different too. Many locals said they didn’t recognise the place they had grown up in.
But since 76% of the town voted to leave the EU, not much has changed. Immigrants still come to the town in record numbers, attracted by the vacancies in Lincolnshire’s massive farming industry.
The lands around Boston are some of the most valuable farmland in Europe. Lincolnshire produces one eighth of the UK’s food and a huge amount of barley, wheat, oilseed rape and sugar beet.
Such a large industry requires a tonne of Labour. But Lincolnshire farmers have lamented how hard it is to fill vacancies on the farm. The work involves long hours and is physically demanding. Many English people just refuse to do it.
The solution for years has been to recruit Eastern Europeans, keen to work, leading to the huge numbers we’ve seen settling into Boston. But that might all change.
Ed Campbell went to Lincolnshire to explore the UK's changing farming industry and just what that might mean for Britain's most Brexit town.
Reporter: Ed Campbell
Camera: Harry Ainsworth
Producer: Laura Beveridge
But now, that might change.
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Should we have more Proclaimers songs in videos?
100% Looking forward to hearing Ed’s rendition of 500 miles on the 200 pod special 😅
Great that Ed's Scottish identity keeps coming through!
Always!
Definitely, it's great to hear the use of Proclaimers songs that aren't the one that everyone's heard
you should stay the f on your island
Brexit-voting Boston mayor who's originally from Morocco is against immigration. That's Monty Python stuff.
So he is definetly integrated then. He got the local sense of humor!
@@drankrur *humour
Only if you're obviously racist expectation is that he can't be given the full agency as a taxpaying British citizen to love the country he decided to make his home because it was better than the one he'd been born in enough to have a problem with it being irrevocably changed for the worse by uncontrolled streams of ubiquitously single unskilled young men who immediately have a massively disproportionate negative effect on serious \violent crime murder,sexual assaults,drug dealing,benefit fraud and aggressively demanding to be given full access to the state benefits system they've never paid a single penny in contributions towards?....unless you think that all British immigrants should have unquestioning allegiance for other foreigners over their indigenous British neighbours and want open borders without exception....Monty python indeed
Why? because your a bigot? he's British now, he's entitled to have any view he chooses.
Gammon behaviour
The old mayor of Boston, who is an immigrant,now works in a cafe called Cafe Du Paris. Brilliant. Who wrote this???
Oh yeah. He was from Morocco so he probably speaks French too 🤣
@@verttikoo2052 If he spoke correct French, he'd know that it should read "Café de Paris", not 'du". As it is his logo translates as "Cafe of the Paris"... makes no sense.
and he wants his country back lol
He also voted to leave
@@amberturner2821 Really clever little businassman 🙄
I lived down the road from Boston until 1987. No Eastern or Central European immigrants back then, and it was already a poverty-stricken, racism-raddled pustule.
I was at RAF Coningsby in the late 70s and early 80s and Boston was tribal then. You had to be careful where you went for a drink if you went into Boston. Even people who had lived all their life in the area around Boston were likely to be attacked in some places.
Course it was, snob.
Well, like every other place in Britain.
Well at least now they got those immigrants to blame!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I think it's important to tell the whole story. Farmers can't find people to do the physical work for long hours FOR THE MONEY THEY OFFER.
Don't be silly mate it's just that British people are lazy. I always find that when I'm laying kerbs by hand that just about still pays the bills
@jonahwhale9047 I agree with you, the point needed to be made in the video. They simply stopped at, "... the English are lazy..."
Especially when it is done via agencies. They take a massive cut and leave the employee with rubbish wages and insecure work contracts. It's hardly going to attract many people to do the work.
and the labor cost reflected in the product price. and costy products are not shelved. Its not that simple matter. Econ 101
@@NilsAlmquist-d9kthe agency’s set the wages the farmers don’t so instead of going after the farmer maybe go after them
Dyson loves the UK so much he has left, got his Brexit and left lol.
😂
Yes, to a foreign country where he pays less taxes and will not be employing Brits. How come the press don't talk about this staunch Brexit supporter?
If he had left why has he still got 30,000 plus acres of farm land in England, and has his research centre with 3,500 employees.
Dyson is schizophrenic. He wanted the UK to adopt the Euro, then had a tantrum when they didn't. He became a super brexiteer and ran off to Singapore.
If that was true he would sell his farm
should've asked the farmer what he pays those people.
"brits don't want to do the work" usually means it just pays really badly for how much work it is.
Farm labouring or factory work through an agency (which is the only way to get any) around Boston pays about £8.50 - £12 an hour.
@@alfsmith4936what about the bussed in migrants from easten Europe housed on the farms fed by the farms. I think you will find that's exempt from the minimum wage. Construction companies have been doing this for a long time. I ain't laying 70kg kerbs for min wage thanks very much.
No one is getting over min wage in warehouse work in London these days let alone in Boston!
@@Norfolkandchance886 They don't live on the farms and they work for the same agencies.. They rent rooms/houses from local landlords.
@@alfsmith4936 so below - well below average living wage in the uk.
mystery solved i guess.
i'll copy and paste my post from the last video about boston....
I was born and raised in one of the roughest areas of Boston and i left for Uni as soon as i could rather than hang around in the sh*thole town. The locals all blame "the foreigners" for all the towns ill's. The true issue is that there's no jobs in the town aside from land work (as the area is heavily agricultural), factory work (linked to the land work) and retail and these are all relatively low paying jobs. The locals are either working and cant make ends meet or on benefits or are part of the large OAP populus in the area. With the pay and job opportunities in the area being so low, the low paid jobs have been filled by eastern Europeans who moved en masse to the area and in turn what was an aging, elderly population that’s stuck in its ways was transformed into a very varied populus that has shops and services that cater to the eastern European population. The xenophobic/racist element of the town then blames "the foreigners" for the towns decline as a convenient scape goat. The Tories have been in power for decades in this area, the money has been drained out the town on "mates deals" with Tory MP's and the town has seen no real development or injection of cash for the 30 odd years I’ve been alive. The services, dental, GP, social, care, NHS are all over worked and under funded and the town keeps growing as housing is fairly cheap compared to most parts of the country.
I'm ashamed to be from Boston and my go to line when talking about it will always be " the best thing they could do to the town is burn it all down and plough it back into the land "
Bet your family are really proud mate.
You're being very hard on Boston. What about the beautiful autumnal leaves, the world famous red sox, and the historical signicance of the Boston tea party? And regarding nhs services - count yourself lucky to get any at all over there
You have a good basketball team though, the Celtics. About to win the NBA, aren't they?
@@baby_joe Boston Tea Party is an American thing. It has nothing to do with Boston UK. So are the Red Sox. I was born in Boston in 1984. Still live in the area. Everything the first comment said is true. It's an absolute shithole here.
Beautifully said: I did the same as you, escaped to uni as soon as I could and I couldn't agree more. The xenophobia in Boston is horrific
I love the woman talking about her love of working alongside none English people.
The farmer isn’t looking to give jobs to local English people. He’s looking to go automated. Yet people only want to criticise the immigrants ? It’s absolutely depressing. And he was complaining about using agency workers ? They get paid less than none agency workers so that’s his problem. What an awful man.
Only because the agency takes its cut first. If they were directly employed they’d all get paid the same.
@@frugalitystartsathome4889 the farmer is going to be going more automated so he doesn’t have to employ people. So ?
I think that what she meant is that they don't feel miserable or show it when doing such a hard job.
Nobody has a moral obligation to employ people. Like everyone, he just wants to build a sustainable future for himself. If automation is the solution for him, then I applaud him for realising that. And immigration can be a great thing or a bad thing all depending on how it is done in practice. If it actually leads to measurably worsening outcomes, then people will have legitimate concerns.
Indeed. If the farmer wants automation, that's his business.
It's extra paperwork to export to the EU they're whingeing about now.
But a lot of these farmers (particularly the multi-millionaires) blame everyone and anyone for stubbing their toe!
*Source - I worked for them.
As an addendum, I once heard a rich farmer blaming the bad weather on governments releasing chemical hormones into the air and water because, and I swear this is true, "They want everyone Transgender!"
😐🤦🏻♀️
Just worth pointing out: the optical sorting machines that farmer is talking about come with massive licensing costs which go straight to the pockets of hedge fund managers, venture capital groups etc.. with accounts somewhere in Caymans. Not a single penny of that is going back to the UK economy.
Absolutely right.
Thats just it isnt it, more wealth being extracted from our country.
and how’s that the farmers fault?
@@SeekingArguments well, it’s not as long as long they all shut about everything around going to sh** cause no local economy=no local taxes, local business closing down, globalisation, pubs not making enough to stay afloat, folks on benefits, … and generally things not matching their “good old days” ideal standard.
There are so many things wrong with this statement it's absurd. And then I see people agreeing with this comment, and I understand how Brexit was a thing.
'I supported Brexit to get our country back' says man not from this country
my MIL is the same. She moved over from Poland in the 90s and absolutely HATES polish immigrants. And german immigrants in particular.
Lifting the ladder up behind her
Obviously Bostonians are thickos.
Yours is an ethno-nationalist, nativist viewpoint. Currently, foreign nationals are allowed to become productive citizens and can normalize in the UK. If for example, we got rid of all foreign born citizens and non-citizens, you'd see how quickly this country declines into 3rd-world-level living standards. One example being that 19% of NHS workers are not British. This doesn't include citizens that you might class as 'not British' due to your ethno-nationalistic views. If you want to expel these people for feeling British when they aren't (according to you, it seems), it would simply be an act of National self-harm.
nobody hates an immigrant more than an earlier immigrant.
@@nevascared123 I think you’re missing OPs point and replying to something OP wasn’t suggesting. I think (hope) OP is in favour of immigration, assimilation of culture and “normalisation”, but is pointing out the irony of someone who clearly benefitted from immigration, taking away that right for others. As the other reply suggests, he’s lifting up the ladder behind
Rich folk telling the working class: 'that's the reason you're poor!' while pointing at an immigrant. And people keep falling for it, for years on end. While it's the rich that keep the working class poor.
So you think the first and iron law of economics supply and demand no longer exists ?
You don't seem to understand the cast iron law of supply and demand.
Yeah, more condescending meaningless nonsense from the bourgeois liberal left to the working class.
The working class are very well aware of the laws of supply and demand, and their affect on wages.
😂😂😂😂
That's not the issue.
Look at how the german economy operates.
Those who fall for it deserve their fate. Nasty heart - nasty life.
i just dont understand why people wouldnt want to do a job thats hard work, long hours, shit pay ,no job security and no promotion possibility cos the boss wants to replace you to save money ....
Your absolutely spot on, that's what I wanted to say but you put it much better.
It's just one of life's mysteries.
he even said "maybe i shouldnt say this in front of 'the ladies'"... I hope his business goes bankrupt
I know, right?
@@kerrydevlin You're*
It's so strange hearing an obviously non-british accent talking about taking their country back... what.
I mean if you pay tax and are a registered citizen then it is your country.
@@ryan266846 "Back" to what exactly? Based on the time scale that he has been in the UK, probably not far... Back to when he was still allowed in.
and stop more of their people coming to stealing their jobs!
Is that all you took from this, that someone who immigrated, made himself a pillar of his community, was voted by them to be mayor, sees that the majority of other immigrants are ruining the place he calls home?
OK then...
@@roastnut Back to before other immigrants I guess. I don't agree with him but he has the right to that opinion and his rights are as valid as someone who can trace their ancestry back to the Norman conquest.
The EU Wasnt the problem it was our own politicians who we now have making our laws for their own benefit
Well said 👏🏿👏🏿
You think all the politicians in the EU are moral bastions of selflessness and all the politicians in the UK are corrupt and self serving? Not belonging to a supranational political organisation stops giving your own politicians somewhere to hide.
I'm not anti immigration, Im for targetted immigration, well managed, in terms of opportunities, housing, services, and infrastructure capacity and the speed at which it happens. Its irresponsible to have countries stripped of their working age population and the damage to their economies and overload into other economies that cannot keep up with it.
The EU is a basket case. All Euro carrying nations have arbitrary fiscal caps, forcing them to use treasuries as a credit card (something that no sovereign nations do, like USA, Japan, Canada, China, etc). The Euro currency will collapse inside my lifetime
The EU was a part of the problem in the sense it prevented our politicians from removing awful EU leglisation that impacted our lives which meant seeking approval from all other member states who we never voted for. The problem that we have now is the people running our country are supporting that awful leglisation despite the fact that they have the power to remove it which is why Brexit is misunderstood by some who voted for it.
The EU isn't the 'sole' problem but it definitely was a problem and had barriers for our own politicians even if they did want to do what's right for us.
The arrogance of this farmer is astounding! His workers a right there! I'll bet their wages are all pish!
I agree. Farm labourer wages are something they didn't really mention in this video. I'm in Canada, and we have a lower minimum wage for agricultural workers. It's partially why we need temporary workers from down south. They'll do the hard physical work for the lower pay, but locals won't
@@triplethreatmatt Minimum wage in uk is the same across All Industries
@@londo776 really most farm work is casual wages in Australia ?
@user-rk9it9hz6g I worked in a few Boston factories, in the 1990s and everyone was drunk, or on drugs.. We worked 48hr shifts, to pay for the weekend. My employer was my dealer and most people on the van owed them money at the end of the week lol.
@@Peter-ww9bw what are "casual wages?"
"How much money does this machine save you?"
"its saves a man a year... i dont want to say how much"
translation: I dont want to reveal how little im paying these people.
They receive the minimum wage, whilst the agency gets 50% of their rate, profit per hour, on zero hours contract. Then wonder why they can't find workers and even more blaming easterners for taking them. 😂😂
The farmers don't set the rate the Gangmasters do. This almost indentured servitude has been going on for decades and despite multiple Govt administrations saying they will do something about it no one will because when you have them by the balls their hearts and minds will follow.
@@billgreen576 can you expand on what a gangmaster is??
It’s not that the British aren’t willing to do that work, it’s that they aren’t willing to accept the abysmal wages. I worked with some Latvians for minimum wage and they told me it was still 4x what they could earn for the same work in Latvia. So all respect to those young people who made the choice to go out into the world to find work, but the consequence is that wages have been suppressed to the point that it is impossible for people to thrive.
And then people moan about things costing so much
But they are not in Latvia. They are in UK with the same living costs
The British ARE’NT prepared to do that work. If they were, they’d want more money, less hours, and wouldn’t live on the job. Oh, and tge price per punnet would double.
@itzandz but they live here
@Alex-uh1mj they're coming over here and sharing a 3 bedroom house with 11 other adults, they're not spending their wages in the local economy they're sending it all back home. There's a difference between living and simply existing.
The woman in the green jacket, is so intelligent, compassionate and drops truth bombs one after another!
yes. I agree. She is very intelligent and is saying the truth.
Everyone interviewed is extremely funny. Esp. the Latvians: "Vee best immigrants, Romanian worst immigrants". Brexit was a charade, but post-Brexit is a comedy.
Pick up a book on the history of Eastern European countries.
Plus a bit of traditional racism about "Gypsies" from Romania and Bulgaria. Migrant workers from Romania are likely to be Roma. The Roma of Romania were held there as slaves for 500 years, until the 1850's. They did all the farming and building, and are still segregated and discriminated against. That's why many of them are illiterate.
@@faithlesshound5621 stop giving people excuses.
@@Micfri300 I live in the so called "Eastern Europe". Don't lecture me about books or Europe.
For the record, socio-economic realities are not excuses, esp. when you're lecturing from the privileged "West".
@d_rooster southern Italy had it just as bad after world war 2.
Whilst a small percentage of people went into becoming the mafia the rest didn't go about stealing.
Nothing about the west.
Like I said before go and read some books.
I worked on farms for years, circa 1980/90's, sorting spuds etc. Back then it was cash in hand, so young lads on the dole, students & older women from the village earning a bit of pocket money. This sort of work, fruit picking etc was often done by women from the cities who wanted a holiday in the country & to earn a few bob, but things change.
A lot of older people can't abide the change &, to be honest are racist. They want the England of the 1970's, they forget the hardship & look back at the past through rose tinted glasses.
Folk have always blamed immigrants, be that Huguenots, Jews, Caribbeans or whatever, it's human nature, tribal feudalism runs deep. Easier to find a scapegoat than try & analyse a complex issue.
Personally I blame the bastards in power, I try to treat everyone the same whatever his religion or colour of his skin.
Dani - who had to go to court for threatening people in 2022 - is from Morocco, but complains about other foreigners. I hate certain foreigners, too, but my hate for foreigners is limited to his exact kind: foreigners who hate foreigners who do the exact same thing they do. This is absolutely ridiculous. Luckily, he and his opinion do not matter.
Unfortunately it did, because he voted for Brexit. I agree though with the absurdity of his hypocrisy.
@@roastnut You are right, I should have been more precise… Luckily, in 2024 he and his opinion do not matter.
my friend married a Finn and complains all the time about "others coming here" Meanwhile his wife and her 10 family members are fine-know what the biggest difference is? They can speaks english (indians) his in laws barely after 45 years. But he complains about them taking these jobs. Easy reason is their pigment is wrong. Another pull up the ladder after using it type.
If you grow up in a multicultural area like I did in London you would know that most immigrants are pretty right wing because they grew up harder than you did. Why is that surprising. The vast majority of the world is not a happy clappy place like where you live in your white little market towns. Go ask them what they think. Especially about the boat crossing when they had paid thousands to be here legally.
Immigrants are okay but it should never have got to the point where signs in stores in little market towns are in every language but English. Our country has been betrayed by these migrants who we let come here.
Just so you know, the Lithuanian girl who was killed, it was a family feud over custody. The father paid some guys to kill her. It was not a random act in the street.
Why is that bring brought to Britain? No thanks.
@@NapoleonicWargamingyou think the Uk doesn’t have fights and murders for hire? What a slap on the face on your history and culture
@yucol5661 not over Lithuanians, no
why do they complain of romanians and bulgarians if lithuanians are killing in the streets...idiots
Thank you for letting us know. That lady considering Bulgaria East European, and Latvia or Lithuania not is beyond a joke. Their montage made it look like the murder was done by Romanian gypsies..
*I HOPE THEY GOT ALL THIER BREXIT BENEFITS* after all - they KNEW what they voted for - so they must all be very happy and better off now...!!!
Brexit is just moving power from the EU Superstate to Westminster. You still have to VOTE in a positive government.
Corbyn should of accepted the result of the Referendum and set out an alternative direction. He was anti EU all his political life just like his hero Tony Benn. He became leader suddenly flipped flopped and crashed in the Old Labour Leave seats
Blaming everyone else (Migrants) for their average lives.
@@evolassunglasses4673 Corbyn is a euro sceptic, you mong. It was Boris who switched with the wind
What a load, the only mistake the Brexit voters made was overestimating the level of competence in the government….
gammon will always be gammon.
Holly smocks!
I'm a bulgarian and immigrant. You are bias. I have worked 2-3 jobs (70 hours per week)hard to provide for my son and myself. I picked up litter when I see and when I can. Never took a penny from the government. Now I own my house and my son is an university student and work at the same time.
Most of my coworkers are immigrants and the few locals call sick and miss work on regular basis.
Try not to let the bigots get to you. Thank you for your contribution to our country.
I've done fruit picking and cheese packing as temp jobs in between college holidays as a teen in the early 80's. I've also done care work and cleaning working with lots of other cultures. Like the English lady said the migrants can speak other languages not like a lot of us here. They do work hard for their often low paid wages. I know I've done it too.
Its odd that the English will go off to their countries and set up their expat communities, set up pubs with english meals but the migrants can't here? I know people who voted for Brexit and now left this country for better health care and cheaper housing...
I've worked in Boston and lived in Spain and the majority of English in Spain complain about too many English people living there but they still drink in their local, British owned bars.
They can and have? Never been to parts of London, Manchester. Pretty much the whole of Birmingham. Queens park in Bedford. Berry park in Luton. Leicester, Bradford, Burnley, Blackburn?
Get out a bit more, then you will see because I've lived in plenty of these places in scum hole Houseshares run by slumlords.
The people leaving don't consider themselves immigrants. It's even in your own post, they consider themselves "expats". They think they are better than immigrants and a completely distinct category of people. Because they believe they bring valuable skills and knowledge to their foreign countries, whereas immigrants from poor countries just bring crime and end up on the dole. Rich immigrants from China unfairly inflate prices of housing causing massive problems for locals and also don't integrate well which causes assimilation and low-trust society issues. But British immigrants (expats)? They are different, they are not rich enough to inflate housing prices, not poor enough to be a drag on their foreign nation's economy and social services. The goldilocks immigrant.
The difference is scale, integration and cultural values.
British people moving away aren't doing so in massive numbers that overburden that countries services.
In Britain we have mass migration of the low skilled and have done for decades. This swamps our services.
British people moving to Spain, France, or whatever are culturally going to be a lot more in tune with those countries values, than say Abdul from Afghanistan who thinks women shouldn't vote, can't leave the house without a man or thinking interacting with 13 year old girls is acceptable. The Brits abroad aren't clashing with locals, third world economic migrants flooding Europe are clashing with locals and its increasing every single year.
British people moving to other countries and setting up pubs isn't a problem, just like how Indian, Chinese, Pakistani or other establishments from other countries here isn't a problem either. The difference is the amount and implementation. British abroad also dine and go to a lot of the local areas, there are some areas in Britain where food establishments have started up in the heart of a cultural ghetto, where there's little or no interaction, or integration outside of its immediate area because there's so many of them there.
@kravan5063 I think you are overly optimistic about how foul mouthed, entitled and generally sticking out like a sore thumb Brits are in the rest of Europe. They are loud, they drink until they drop and complain about "too many Spanish people" in Spain.
And they are a drain - they contribute next to nothing, never integrate and spend their money in other British owned establishments.
I haven't met anyone saying Brits are a good addition.
So cultural clashes happen everywhere - they happen when Ahmed wants to pray on a Sunday morning and wakes up the neighbourhood, and they happen when an old uncle gets out of the pub absolutely wasted, singing at the top of his lungs.
Do not speak on behalf of Europeans, please.
What a lovely attitude that lady has, wish there were more people as enlightened as her, I rate you highly.
"76% voted to leave".
So shy are they still here complaining about the same things?
Cos not all the spuds are in the fields.
Q: Could you function without immigration?
A: (Long Pause, brain whirring) We could.... in the future when we have robots to do everything.....
So basically NO.
The working classes are being phased out, unfortunately.
@@alfsmith4936nonsense mate. There a lot more money to be made replacing white collar pen pusher and that's what they reckon will go first. Repetitive things like picking and packing and bricklaying might go before too long. Time to retrain before you go extinct!
@@alfsmith4936 Get skilled/educated, they're competing with very clever machines.
@@johnwalton5720 I'm alright.. My grandchildren will be renting the warehouses to Amazon.. I hope you have provided for the next few generations of your family.
By "future" he means within a few years probably. Robots are getting rolled out everywhere now. AI has advanced to the point that it can design other AIs, which can design robots better and faster than we can.
Machines don't get paid, but machines can't spend money in the local economy either, Henry ford already tried to make this argument and it didn't work for him.
Henry Ford supplied ammunition to the Nazis in WW2 before the U.S joined the war, there is so much people don't know.
Not very good economics. Just a Luddite argument.
@@CCP_OperativeIt will concentrate wealth in the hands of the few and leave many destitute and poor, unless employment opportunities are created to cope with the excess labour; meanwhile, the only economic incentive the rich will have to create such opportunities will be the risk of a popular uprising that will see them skewered on their portfolios, with their capital gains separated from their brass neck. How's that for economics?
have you got a source for the ford arguement
@@EdwardLindon Luddite argument
The problem with Boston is that it has a largely uneducated population, and a conservative council until recently. If it wasn’t for the Eastern Europeans the town would have died many years ago.
This is such bigoted classist nonsense. truly digusting and shows that anti working class bigotry is the last prejudice that middle class still have.
If only someone could point at some causal link between being poorly educated and voting tory...
@@M0UAW_IO83 except tory voters tend to be better educated and labour core of working class voters tend to to have the lowest level of education. Also formal education doesn't mean people are smart and lack doesn't mean people are stupid. Remember most tory ministers are oxbridge graduates.
@@jackdoyle7453Don't know where you're getting your 'facts' from regarding Conservative voters being better educated..
YouGov Survey 2019 states the following:
'The YouGov survey found that Labour voters are educated to a higher level'
Social Market Foundation Report 2020 states the following:
'The Conservatives’ slump since 2020 has
occurred across all education groups, leaving
education divides intact. The Conservatives are
on course for their worst performance with
graduates since at least 1979, but are still
polling better with school leavers than they were in 2015'
Basically saying those with uni degrees tend to vote Labour whereas people only educated to GCSE level tend to vote Conservative.
@@jackdoyle7453 or voting for Brexit/Reform.
That farmer is in for a rude awakening when he realises the maintenance costs for his fully mechanised farm. Simply replacing people with machines looks great on day 1 when your nice shiny new machine is churning away. But that machine won't last forever (much like the ones he's already using from the sound of them) and it will need regular and good maintenance from a qualified technician. that's not cheap. And when the machine breaks down (which it will, more often than you'd imagine) you're left high and dry, because you've got rid of all your people! The machine that replaces a "man" at £15k a year will require a technician at £1000 a day to perform maintenance and repairs. Be very careful what you wish for. Mechanisation is great, but you need a lot of money to do it right, and it's VERY easy to do it wrong and bankrupt yourself quickly.
There's always been people fighting against technological progress, but it always happens and works. How do you intend to compete in price with others who are supplying cheaper produce with advanced machinery? We should be the ones building and exporting the machines around the world and supplying the engineers to maintain them, and not harking back to the good old stone age.
@@philyewin4880 you’ve missed my point. Mechanisation is great. But done wrong isn’t the cheaper method. I’ve seen the same products made in China and Italy, the line in China has 25 people on it, in Italy 3. Who was producing it cheaper do you think?
@mattitheowl Luddite
@@shelleyphilcox4743 not at all. I’ve worked in various highly mechanised environments. Done right it’s incredible. But what happens to the people who are replaced by the machines?
@@mattitheowl Done badly...Brave New World. Done well, Utopia 😉
The same questions about society were asked at the beginning of the industrial revolution too.
I'm not anti immigration, but I do not agree that mass migration and cheap labour and keeping people on unliveable wages with finite natural space and resources is a great recipe for quality of life in the future either. There is also the deep moral question regarding stripping other countries of their people and what do you think happens to countries with rapidly dwindling populations...how does the quality of life fare there? The aim is surely to have a reasonable balance?
You need to STOP stereotyping and say Bulgarians and Romanians!
They are Roma or Bulgarian-Gypsies or Romanian-Gypsies.
They have trashed the name of these two countries across Europe for the last 30 years!
What sets Boston apart from the rest of England was made clear by one of the reports from the 2021 census published last year, which showed that the town and surrounding area had the lowest level of education in the country, looking at school and post-school qualifications and also apprenticeships. Part of the reason seemed to be that there wasn't much for people to do once they HAD obtained a qualification: most of them would have to leave if they wanted to make use of it. Listening to the people interviewed I can well believe that.
I think having a largely uneducated, unskilled electorate made Boston fertile ground for the paranoid politics of the Brexiteers. It's not as if Brexit has brought any benefits: they were persuaded to blame the foreigners for what was going wrong.
People like that farmer complain that they can't get the workers, but note how cagey he was about how much he pays them. It's not a quasi-feudal country any more, where agricultural workers live in tied cottages and are expected to send their sons and daughters to work for the Lord of the Manor or risk eviction. There's a market for labour, so if farmers want workers they have to be willing to pay them. If that farmer was willing to pay enough and offer acceptable conditions he might find that even pipe-smoking Englishmen would turn up to work for him. Instead he's happy to take whoever the agencies can find at their price.
This may be a transitional phase before the farming industry disappears altogether from England. I learned back in the 1970's, before heavy industry disappeared altogether under Thatcher, that the foundries of Yorkshire and presumably also the mills of Lancashire were hiring Indians and Pakistanis to work their night shifts. That would not have been the case before the war. Immigrant labour was a phase before the workforce disappeared altogether.
The English Natives, meanwhile, are sitting at home with their PlayStations, doing drugs and watching porn. What will happen to the land? Grouse moors, perhaps, for parties of stock brokers?
If that's the case, they should be perfectly qualified to do those field jobs.
It's not shocking that people don't want to sit on an agency hoping for work week to week. People want to know week to week how they are gonna pay their bills and feed their families. 0 hour contracts and agencies taking a cut for nothing isn't helping anyone but the 5th generation farmer that was given a stable job by dad.
£6.40-£8.40 is minimum wage. Average price of a home in the UK is £300.000. I wonder if that is why u can't get indigenous people to do the jobs😜🤪😝🤑
The audacity of using the word indigenous for a race of people that are built on thousands of years of migration is laughable.
@@Edge-of-Reason I don't think u understand wot I'm saying.
@@russellstanford4584 But I think he understood that quite well. The indigenous in this coastal area in particular are mainly descendants of Angles, Saxons and Scandinavian raiders who have adapted a few words of Latin and French into their barbarian language.
@@Horrorhorst u have completely missed my point. I'm not talking about imagration I'm talking about paying people a proper wage who ever they are.
@@russellstanford4584 oh, I'm sorry.
Going back to my hometown for family do's and whatnot is just sad. It's decrepit, destitute and lost it's soul. The town's very much been left behind and it's no wonder crime got out of control. But if this video highlights anything, it's the fucking selfish snobbish attitude of landowners, and that includes one side of my extended family that run a few farms around Boston and the Fens. You go back several decades when these towns were very much booming, and it was because there were plentiful job opportunities working the land and supporting those people and their families: Landowners needed gangs of labourers to help with harvesting and whatnot. But mechanisation has slowly but surely taking over the workload of these people, and you can see the glee in that blokes face about being able to replace humans because "it saves employing one person". That'll be costing him about £20k a year. He'll spend more than that getting one of his tractors serviced.
Thing is, that's a pretty common outlook shared by all the landowners round Boston, if not the country. Meanwhile they themselves live in massive newly built mansions away from civilisation, drive brand new Jags and Range Rovers at the weekend all the while claiming destitution. It's rotten. You quiz him about what would happen without immigration and his solution is "tech", not employing other people. I get it, argicultural mechanisation and technological advancement to industrialise farming is what ensures places like Lincolnshire can produce 1/8 of the UKs food. But that's a black hole that sucks away the job opportunities traditionally filled by human labour on the land which is what led to market towns like Boston springing up in the first place. Without it, everything just regresses as only a small number of people (the landowner's family in most cases) can effectively manage most of the annual duties and so there's very little disposable income feeding back into the town to help it grow. The largest group of employees that still work regularly on my extended family's farm is truck drivers because it's the one job they really can't automate, yet. Even the local engineering companies that were founded to support the rising mechanisation are they themselves looking at automation and overseas manufacturing because they can't compete and so are also curtailing employment opportunities for locals there as well.
The fact of the matter is this: any pair of hands that comes to work on the farm is entirely disposable to these people nowadays and if they could get away with paying them less, they would, in a heartbeat. Bloke in the video is even jittery about talking about salaries, because I bet if HMRC came sniffing around things wouldn't be above board - doubly so for the agencies supplying him workers. Some of the richest farmland in Europe, owned by mostly a handful of families that will happily shit on human labour at every turn whilst living in their own bubbles and employ mechanisation wherever possible, slashing all demand for employment in the area. I'm not saying we need to go back to medieval times and regress our agritcultural practices so that all the locals have somewhere to work: but we need to see that all the wealth generated by such land is so intensely concentrated into such a small demographic of families, and encourage new employment opportunites away from the land to help feed the market town economy again. I think the fate of Boston will eventually come for all market towns that historically had a strong symbiotic relationship with surrounding agricultural lands, it's just the more unique immigration explosion in Boston has accelerated the issue and demonstrated the failing of society as the locals become ever more impoverished though lack of opportunity.
Really. I remember Boston as dying on its arse with all the young people elsewhere before the immigrants came.
Not saying it's perfect now, but at least it has a pulse.
A well thought out piece that explains why the town’s in the country are going bust!
If all ends fail they take you to war!
That will give us all jobs! Giving up your life ! To support the rich!
Lived round there for a while, pretty good analysis I'd say. There's a reason why HMRC has been de-funded over the last decade - they only have 1/3 of the forensic accountants they had 15 years ago.. 🤔
Farmers near me have no employees at all. Ploughs, sows, harvests himself all with one machine. Periodically sprays pesticide everywhere. Pollutes the area, all profit for himself, provides as few jobs as he possibly can. Likely votes Tory & his neighbor flies Trump flags. Let that sink in - Trump flags in UK. Absolute bastards the lot of them.
People forget that these immigrants also need to eat, be housed and wear clothes. This increases demand for goods and services locally that is more assured than what the country earns from exports. When you have machines producing goods for a shrinking population, recession will soon come in which can not be easily overcome by export income alone.
Ironically, the fens were initially drained by the Romans, and later, on a much larger scale, by the Dutch, turning marshland into what is arguably the best arable land in Britain. So, immigrants have actually formed the landscape which produced the wealthy towns of Boston, and across the border Wisbech, both exporting crops via the Wash. Immigrants working the land is nothing new either. Whether it be the travelling community or industrial city dwellers taking working holidays for seasonal work. Foreign students would also work on fenland farms and stay at camps such as the old Friday Bridge camp, which would ferry the students to the farms, charging for travelling, sleeping costs, as well as having a shop on site (so not dissimilar to how agencies work). Local land workers were a plenty until Maggie Thatcher clamped down on gang masters and workers who subsidised their low wages by claiming the dole. They could not survive on land work wages alone. These workers were targeted much in the same way that immigrants are targeted by better off people as being undesirable. Once Maggie busted the 'free loaders', the locals could no longer afford to live on farming wages. Hence the need to import cheaper labour from abroad. And again, those who moan about them being here, would also be the first to moan when food prices go through the roof because of labour supply and demand. Bottom line is, that most Brexiteers don't get economic migration, or how it came about in this area. I doubt that they have read much pre and post war social economic history; their limited historical knowledge is probably 1066, Rorke's Drift, how we won two World Wars, along with anything else that was taught in the 'institutionalised imperial history' lessons.
The Scots and Irish drained the Fens. Prisoners taken by England's Cromwell in the 17th century. Google it. Thousands of Scottish prisoners forced to work in East Anglia in the 17th century.
Well said - I find the history of that area fascinating. I was a land traveller in the late 80s and 90s and we used to go up to Boston and Spalding to do the tattie grading in the factories, actually a much nicer job than it sounds - if you could get with a decent gangmaster! 😂 I was around during the first wave of polish workers. They put the locals out of work cos the poles could actually work HARD! I didn't mind as the poles were much nicer than the locals, they'd share some food and we'd help them with their English 😊 Early spring we'd bugger off down to Cornwall for the early Daffs - picked Daffs in the snow once 😂
Its pretty dishonest to compare immigration pre 2000s and post, to hand wave away these peoples concerns. Engage with the numbers themselves and you'll realise slow managed migration is substantially different to the mass immigration of the 2000s
@@Oharadanny123abcdefg indeed, but the video is about immigrants not being wanted in the Fens. My general point was that the fens would not exist at all if it had not been for the Romans and Dutch. I omitted to say 'Dutch Engineers' using forced labour. It's also worthy to mention that the original Fen folk did not want the land drained, prefering to keep to their isolated islands amongst the marshes. So, I expect that the locals were just as unhappy to have the Scots and Irish there, as the Scots and Irish were at being there? Google Fen Tgers.
I live in Wisbech, probably the second highest Brexit vote in England, so I'm well aware of immigration en mass, and I have some sympathy with the older indigenous population. The younger ones seem to deal with it. My three lads all in their twenties have Polish, and Lithuanian mates they went to school with.
At the end of the day it is economic immigration, so is governed by supply and demand. The real way to stop mass immigration is to ban zero hours, ban non-skilled agencies, pay a decent wage, and as a result be prepared to pay a higher price for our food.
High viz spikey fringe lady seems like a nice person.
Pity there are not more like her in the house of commons, more brains than 90% of them.
she does, but nothing is stopping her learning a language online, for free, if she's so interested
@@Tom_- Except her colleagues might prefer to practice their English. Most people that I have ever met in this country who speak English as a second language do. Plus you can't realistically expect her to learn multiple languages if her colleagues are from multiple countries. I expect she picks some of it up but why should she? She's an English person in her own country. But it's nice to see them all getting along regardless.
It’s so weird that we live in a system where people are told to blame individual groups of human beings for specific issues and then changes are made and the problems seem to either stay the same or get worse; it’s almost as if the individual groups of people might not actually be the fucking problem in the first place… how strange…
Didn't blaming individual groups of human beings for specific issues happen in Germany in the 1930s? How easily people forget.
@@boldfordso your saying that farage is the same as the man with the tash 😂 is that line not getting a bit old now. Especially when all the people saying it are out every weekend calling for the death of the 4 by 2s.
The only people that stir the pot and largely create issues are the political class - the root of most people’s issues.
@@richardcollis5576 it ain't politicians that are out every weekend smashing Barclays bank to bits and kettling shoppers into looking like they are part of protests for viral videos.
Maybe the kids of the politicians are in that crowd with the blue hairs and masks. That seems pretty plausible cos it definitely ain't the working class kids!
@@Norfolkandchance886well, let’s be honest, he is on record as being a fan. He’s also on record as repeatedly saying “gas them”. If the shoe fits…
Where is the ear protection in that sorting room
I was struck by the lack of ear defenders provided to the workers in that noisy farm machinery room, if they're in there for hours at a time, the long term damage to their hearing would be undeniable.
Doesn't seem that loud, they are managing to conduct the interview right next to the machine. Sometimes it is safer for awareness if they are not needed.
@@paintbox9899mate its noisy enough to get tinnitus, I get tinnitus from just moving empty metal produce and product cages which is about the same level of noise.
@@mallardofmodernia8092 To be fair, if the microphone doesn't go wild I would guess the noise is on a health risk level and most factories are using sound alarms to inform workers for something going wrong, thus hear protection is only used when necessary.
I would be more concerned by how excited he is to replace his workers by a completely untested and historically questionable technology.
I can't recall many technologies for farms, outside of tractors that their first generation was anything but a mess.
@@gaarakabuto1 they can get ear plugs that block out sudden loud noises but still allow quieter sounds to go in, they can also get ear pro that doesn't protect against white noise and use white noise alarms. All of these sorts of things have already been figured out in steel mills and other industrial sectors.
@@mallardofmodernia8092 have you ever wore any of these?
Have you ever been in any industrial unit as a worker?
Why do I have the impression that everyone in this city struggles to speak English, regardless of whether they are immigrants or natives?
They are interviewing the wrong person. Despite he was the mayor, he is a foreigner. The way he is listing Eastern European is not nice.
A couple of friends of mine from Latvia started in Boston working in factories, putting grated cheese on pizzas. They saved some money which allowed them to leave their job to go to university. Both of them now have a great life and very well paid jobs. This is the real success story of Boston.
Do thy still live in Boston? Ive worked manual jobs all my life i worked with the first real big influx of Polish workers in the early 2000's. they were all highly skilled workers who could earn more doing crap manual jobs than they could at home. Slowly as they got used to living and working in the Uk they left for better jobs that reflected their skills. One guy is now an air traffic controller Unfortunatly the jobs in Boston are mainly manual factory work that require low skills and offer a low wage it will always be a place of jobs for those passing through onto hopefully better things
@@West4ea no they have moved elsewhere. But they still live in UK, highly educated, working in good jobs, paying taxes, contributing a lot to this country. Maybe it’s not much of a benefit for Boston specifically but it certainly is a good for UK as a whole.
I worked in a factory full of Latvians (also Lithuanians) about ten years ago. They were the VILEST people I have ever met. A seriously nasty, thuggish, primitive bunch. 100% of them swearing and being abusive in their own language, becoming physically threatening, etc., trying to bully the few English-speakers out of the workplace. They had to sack the Latvian girl in the staff shop because she was ripping off British customers. I never once saw a single one of them sit at a table with British workers in the 5 years I worked there.
This factory had an-all British workforce when it first opened, with better pay and shift patterns. It ended up with
So disappointed in England... England made its choice with Brexit and revealed it's ugliness to the world.
it sure did.
all you had to do was ask the irish they knew the real english for ever.
I only wish the younger voters would make their opinion known, we would still be in the EU. Thinking back to when I was young, I never voted either.
@roastnut Ok, did you say Germany revealed its ugliness to the world when it kept its labour market fully closed for the maximum 7 years allowed in 2004 when we had new ascending states? Note that the UK was one of only 3 countries that fully opened on day 1 and the only major economy, the other 2 were Ireland and Sweden. All other countries used a combination of delay, phasing and caps over the 7 year period. Considering Germany's population rise in the last 25 years of 81.4m to 83.3m today, vs the UK at 59m in 2000 to 68m in 2024, do you think Germany's policies on migration show deep rooted ugliness, racism, xenophobia? Or do you think it perfectly reasonable to protect your labour market to the maximum extent when it is Germany, but not if you are the UK and are simply needing some time after such serious and rapid population growth to expand housing, infrastructure and basic services like education and health capacity?
How can you grow your population by the equivalent of the entire population of countries like Greece, Portugal or Sweden in 25 years without a considerable impact?
Theres lots of lovely fluffy idealism and absolutely zero common sense or appreciation of the magnitude of the challenges in a concrete way. You have to be able to manage the speed and numbers migrating and the capacity in services, housing and infrastructure...and be able to plan in a meaningful way when it takes decades to build railways and roads and train doctors to a point of high skilled experience at consultant level...experienced teachers...engineers to design and build...trades to support house, hospital and school building.
You also need enough long term resource...land to build, produce food, and water.
Stop mistaking sensible pragmatism on logistics for some kind of personal nastiness to individual people, and stop demonising England for recognising that there are challenges absorbing this speed of migration in England...and the vast majority of the absorption of rapid population growth is in England, a highly densely populated area. Scotland...70 people per sq km. England 432 per sq km. Germany 233 per sq km.
Does anyone ever look at what is underpinning these concerns and use the data?
@@shelleyphilcox4743 All the cases you state above were lawful and reasonable responses. The solution to basically improving infrastructure, or anything else you mention, doesn't involve cutting ties with your largest trading partner and replacing them with barriers where non existed before. Everyone knows how the whole Brexit campaign was riddled with obvious undertones of Xenophobia. That was plain to see.
30 years ago this was me (a Brit). I moved to Germany for better working opportunities. Most of my work colleagues were foreigners too. I worked on building sites. It felt like a real life Aufwiedersehen Pet situation. I Loved it.
Auf Wiedersehen Pet.
:) Danke für Ihre Aufmerksamkeit.
Ive worked with a few Romanians and tbf they where all pretty well educated and hard workers... milage may vary though.
Yes, but gypsies are another story. Unfortunately all the east comunist countries have failed to integrate gypsies, they are just not fit for Europe. They came from Indian and for hundreds of years they can’t settle. Now it’s for the west to try and integrate them.
Not all Romanians are Roma. Most Romanian people are hard working tax payers. Roma on the other hand are totally different
As a Pole, I hate the term Eastern European. What does Bulgaria have to do with Estonia culturally/geographically? It's just short hand for poor/post-soviet countries.
@user-rk9it9hz6g Where's the havoc in the labour market? Britain has become a low birth rate nation. As a result it has an aging population. Where are all the young fit people going to come from to fill the vacant roles that indigenous people cannot or will not do?
Specially when the likes of User has a personality that is also an effective contraceptive.
Pretty much yeah. Budapest and Bucharest are culturally closer than London or Paris though.
Western Europe is rich and eastern Europe is poorer. What's the issue thats just fact.
@user-rk9it9hz6gleast racist britsh reply
@user-rk9it9hz6g What a nasty comment - they came to do jobs nobody wanted to do. Boston is about the only leave voting area with a high level of immigration. Remain voting areas are much more cosmopolitan.
👀Could your farm function without immigration?”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@user-rk9it9hz6g problem is brits has become so so weak
@user-rk9it9hz6g Britain has become a low birth rate nation. As a result it has an aging population. Where are all the young fit people going to come from to fill the vacant roles that indigenous people cannot or will not do?
@@Tombakerioisjjd😂 I lay 70 kg kerbs by hand mate. Speak for yourself!
@@boldfordyou pay them fair wages to do them.
Can you name the two countries in the world that have above replacement birthrates? China is apparently gonna be the first to collapse for that reason.
Immigrants get old too. What need to happen Is you crustys sitting in expensive houses are gonna have to sell them to pay for your own pensions and infinite NHS procedures. Instead of us having to pay for your luxury retirements.
@@boldford And why don't the indigenous people not want to do it? Because companies don't have to make the jobs more desirable or competitive when you can just import millions of people from a global workforce where the terrible British wage, is better than the best wage in their country...
How can you expect a country to have a high birth-rate if it only ever becomes harder and harder to have children partially because the things necessary for bringing up children, like hospital services, childcare, schools and homes, are being far outpaced by mass migration? Yeah let's increase mass migration to deal with issues mass migration directly affects negatively! great idea
The man that killed the 9 year old girl is Lithuanian....The irony
As we know Brits don't kill anyone. 🤔
I don't think you know what irony is.
The dude was seriously mentally ill
This comment should have more likes and be a loooot more visible. All the way to the lady at the community center, speaking broken English and complaining about other immigrants speaking broken English.
Are you saying shit is not done by the British? That is a high expectation to get all spotless foraigners in this country forgetting about crime done by local people. Tere are 12% foraign nationals in UK prisons. 25% of them come from former communist block countries. Does it sound a lot? Then please check the following.14.8% in UK are foreign nationals. So there is no big disproportionality. Many of those from None Europian countries would be imprisoned due to illegal immigration status. Also, from my personal experience I can say that the recent serious crime that I witnessed was done by a British national with an Irish name. Search wicki regarding "United Kingdom prison population" and google "foraign nationals in UK" to check the stats for yourself.
"many English people refuse to do [the work]" ... this sentence is always incomplete. What they mean is "many English people refuse to do the work for the shit wages and conditions on offer".
many people also refuse to pay more for produce that was produced with higher wages and better conditions. It's a race to the bottom.
So they refuse then. It’s a choice. The English should vote for better governance and lobby for better pay rights.
Everywhere you look, things are falling apart. Through the negligence, corruption, and incompetence of the last decade, this country is now in a state of utter disrepair. Our politics, our institutions, our public services, our buildings, our homes, and our livelihoods are withering away, and those currently in power seem to be fine with it, welcome to brexit
I used to like UK and had a Polish neighbour complain about the number of immigrants ,But I pointed what are you then , After Brexit its big problems so went home to France I am loving the EU life,
Lol france is even worse than britain, soon to be the new caliphate.
So the former major of Boston is a Moroccan immigrant who voted for Brexit. Interesting stuff, VERY!
He wanted to take back "his" country.
@@Enig_Mata 😂
Born in Morocco, wife from Poland, kids study in Sweden and travel on a Polish passport, Cafe is called "Paris.
@@maythesciencebewithyou, so it is not even interesting; it is only a matter of poor education. And being silly as well.
@0:41 Ed, "Could you're farm function without immigration?"
*Long pause*
Farmer looks away in the distance
**"Cue The Proclaimers - Over and Done With""**
One problem I see with machines is they don't spent their wages in grocery shop. In the end there may be much less people buying these potatoes.
The machine's "wages" are actually just cost savings. Cost savings means more profits, and profits go to the business owner and shareholders. As long as business owners and shareholders get the money, they don't care because they will still be able to afford the potatoes. In fact, they could probably afford more potatoes now that they've automated.
@@somebodyintheworld5036 you can only eat/consume what fits inside you the rest them stash in offshore accounts
What you should've asked is 'would your farm function without unlivable wages?'.
Migrant mayor complaining about migrants and saying he wants to take back "his" country in the same sentence.... He integrated well 😂
"A flick of the switch to turn it on instead of getting Eastern Europeans." Wow.
Anton Dani? This guy went as far as changing his moroccan name to fit in, even confusing us with his french cafe
You mean the inexplicably named "Cafe DU Paris"?
He spells the name of his own cafe wrongly.
Should be cafe DE Paris. Basic stuff, maybe he should concentrate on educating himself.
British people thinking that Lithuanians and Bulgarians are sort of the same group is hilarious to anyone that has ever looked at a map.
In the UK, Lithuanians are among the lowest skilled migrants, most of them live in multicultural ghettos populated by Muslims and Africans and Lithuanians have the second highest per capita crime rate of all foreigners, above Pakistanis and Somalis for example. Only Albanians have a higher rate. So yes, dont think that Brits despise "bad" migrants like the Gypsies and like "good" migrants like Lithuanians or Poles, which is what the Lithuanian lady seems to believe. Brits in areas populated massively by Lithuanians and Poles voted Brexit in order to get rid of you.
In the UK, Lithuanians are among the lowest skilled migrants, most of them live in multicultural ghettos populated by Muslims and Africans and Lithuanians have the second highest per capita crime rate of all foreigners, above Pakistanis and Somalis for example. Only Albanians have a higher rate. So yes, dont think that Brits despise "bad" migrants like the Gypsies and like "good" migrants like Lithuanians or Poles, which is what the Lithuanian lady seems to believe. Brits in areas populated massively by Lithuanians and Poles voted Brexit in order to get rid of you.
It’s like America, Americans think other central Americans are all Mexican,
That automation (without replacement jobs) will lead to the town dying - less money in people's pockets, businesses will close, people will move away, and crime will rise.
The robots will shop there and the migrants will complain about the robots.
Weird to see the farm owner so gleeful about automating everything and cutting jobs, hehehe thats one more family that goes hungry and more money in my pocket.
Isn't this the case with every job through history that's been automated.
@user-rk9it9hz6gjust gammons who get what they deserve.
Money in his pocket,…… think again
@@JHayler7 you could automate law and accounting,…… but who would look to prevent it.
@@richardcollis5576 that's exactly what's happening apparently.
The absurdity of the foreign mayor and that Lithuanian woman complaining about migrants is infuriating.
I can't stand hypocrisy on this scale.
@user-rk9it9hz6gbecause THEY themselves were immigrants once. And now they have the audacity to complain about other immigrants, and you don't see that as hypocritical? Please
A lot of English people on the Costa Blanca complain about the number of Brits living there too.
@jonahwhale9047really? So this former mayor was one of the good ones? 😂 Thanks for the chuckle. You sound racist AF
well the average immigrant is not the brightest sheep.
It's funny how this Latvian lady thinks that she's something more than Bulgarians and Romanians, but in fact in the eyes in those who hate foreigners, there is not difference.
SHE IS LITHUANIAN
It`s a self-defence mechanism. She is telling herself "When they are talking shit about foreigners they are talking about these ones, not about me". Hearing people claim that foreigners are bad people and bad for the country is insulting and scary when you are a foreigner yourself. It`s comforting to tell yourself "they are not talking about me".
My coworkers are mostly immigrants and I have the guy from Iran telling me how uncivilized Romanians are and they guy from Romania telling me that these guys from Africa really don`t belong here, etc. about every day. They are trying to pass the buck and it`s kinda heartbreaking to see, honestly, because you are right: "In the eyes in those who hate foreigners, there is no difference."
And YES baltics are very different from Balcans
You just did the same as if I called you anerican instead of english
@@anthill1510 ok i am not saying some people hate all foreigners but there is a difference between someone that is more compliant educated (like most lithuanians have higher education)and has their life together and someone that is not? She is btw Lithuanian and there is different between different European and even south and north of Europe
Issue is robots don’t pay taxes
@MarkHarvey-ly3nf But successful businesses do pay tax, the businesses that make the machines, service them, make parts and repair them and the ones that use them. Robots dont need to be educated, use healthcare, need housing or food and I imagine consume less water. They need transport to get from the manufacturer to the end user but not to commute every day.
That's an interesting point. Should they? As in: should there be a tax on "means of production"? I'm wary of it becoming a question whether a laptop should be taxed if you write articles on it, or only if it's running an automated content generation system?
@@GerinoMorn well no.
@@shelleyphilcox4743 good point they are taking less out of the system.
@@GerinoMorn There kind of already is? Income taxes and taxes on corporate profit is indirectly a tax on "means of production". If you go from humans to machines, and those machines end up saving you money, the corporate profit tax takes some of that productivity for the government.
Your laptop for example is indirectly taxed. Your laptop lets you write more articles, which makes you more money as a journalist, and that higher earnings gets taxed as income.
A Croatian here. I've only traveled to the UK on business or pleasure, so I know next to nothing about immigrants in the UK.
There are, however, more and more British immigrants in Croatia, calling themselves expats, never immigrants And demanding that al public services in Croatia, healthcare above all, should be available in English ❗️❓️
So much about immigrants in the UK who can't speak or write English.
English people don't refuse to do farm work. Farmers have been anti union for well centuries and delibrately seek overseas labourers as they are more exploitable that way they can keep wages low and working conditions poor. All the while enjoy massive subsidies from the government on land their ancestors mostly stole thanks to the enclosure acts.
They don’t deliberately seek overseas labour they have to look to overseas labour due to the fact no British worker wants to sit and pick vegetables day in day out
@@SeekingArguments really you've spoke to every british worker? it just means the price point for labour is too low
Would you trust a farmer as an employer?
Yes. All the ones I've worked for have been excellent bosses.
No they are full of shite. They all have side Hustles off their acres of land that's passed from father to son and still plead poverty constantly like the care homes Charging two grand a week and paying staff 20p an hour over the main wage.
Not this one. Putting what is likely a small profit ahead of any social responsibility should not be allowed. That guy really gave off the vibe that he doesn't value or respect his staff, big red flag.
On one side they are complaining that are too many emigrants, on the other side, they are trying to find workers - WTF!😆
I've spent a good chunk of my life in factories. One of the jobs I've done was running a line and crew filling cooking oil. The staff was a mix nationalities. The best staff were all foreigners the worst were all British. The foreigners were self selected for people prepared to travel to another country to get a job, the Brits didn't really want to be there.
It's funny cos I've spent my whole life in construction mainly in London. The people who work hardest are the ones who are most desperate. Last nationality I saw working hardest was Albanians. Most were malnourished. When you see them getting changed in the morning you could see the heartbeat through the chest.
Race to the bottom 👌
Maybe if you had anything about you then you would have made foreman like I did!!
Helps when you are getting 8x the salary. There are plenty of hard British workers in Dubai, because they can make 100 quid an hour teaching english
@@uioplkhj Yep, money does tend to attract the better workers. The British crew I had working for me were not the best the country had to offer, the foreigners were prepared to travel.
@@uioplkhj I don't really think Dubai is a good comparison. Who built Dubai because everything I've seen was modern day slavery.
I knew men going over there earning silly money to oversee construction projects. I didn't hear good stories. Very exploited men!
It's pretty much impossible to become a citizen too.
I used to work in fruit. Picking and I was working with Eastern Europeans.they where like machines just working and then 3 English lads. Where sent by the JC they where shown how to pick the fruits.but because they did not want to be there all they did was whine and cuss.surprising they never came back
So sad to see a country fall for division, the outcome will follow histories examples
Ah I see Romani Baiting is alive and well
If you vistit Polish farms and factories, you will see how many years behind is the English business, farming, innovation and prosperity. Thanks to Brexit!
Really?Give us some examples of how brexit achieved that then eh?🤔
Excellent, nuanced report, Ed.
(And the soundtrack was simply superb.)
Very easy Like.
The pont you missed is that the large companies who wanted to make more profit and so cut wages and were able to do it because of anti Trade Union laws and British workers were priced out by immigrants from Eastern Europe. This happened in the 1980's when British workers went to Germany to work, and they even made a TV show about ii, because UK workers would work for less than Geeman workers.
Brexit happened, in part because of racist rhetoric, but its no coincidence that areas affected most by Tory austerity policies were more likely to vote to leave. So I think you need to educate about the history of the last 40 years and more especially since 2010.
If the employer were paying the minimum wage he would be quite happy to say how much a year’s wages is.
"our idea is to gain our country back" he says in a French accent. The comedy material just writes itself....
You have to feel for them. Boston was like a utopia before the immigration ....
Boston was known for it's inbreeding by anyone else in Lincolnshire.. There weren't many family names around the fens back then.
Oh the sarcasm.
Perhaps if the young people with a long generational past in the area could've been bothered to do the jobs eastern europeans do, things may have been different... however, it's not that simple, right?
That's the knee-jerk reaction "why are Brits too lazy to do farm work" - are they?
Farmers have been pushed to the brink to make ends meet, so they hire migrant labourers who come over for the season.
If they get a good gig, their accommodation is covered - it's not brilliant, but it's ok for a few months.
They get paid far less than a UK worker could afford to be paid ... hear me out here...
A migrant from say, Romania, earning UK pounds, when they send that back home, it's worth so much more than if they were trying to earn a living back home.
It's not rocket science.
How could a British born person compete with this? Impossible.
Why would you want to do incredibly difficult farm work that could never pay your bills?
We absolutely have a culture in some areas where entire generations in a family have not ever held down a job, but that's still few and far between.
Rather, we are seeing areas that have been ignored by successive governments for decades.
Former areas where manufacturing or mining used to provide for people.
Thing is, it's not the migrants that caused this - they are just looking to earn a living.
So when you hear the likes of Farage blaming them, think again - that's the politics of hate.
So easy to do that.
"Don't look at us super rich lot running the country, look over there - at those pesky migrants - it's them! it's them! - it's not us."
It's a mess.
Romanian here. Our country is safe, clean and beautiful. All out Gypsies are in Boston. Thank you, Boston. Keep em.
Why any Polish person would live in a place like Boston, when it looks poorer than poorest polish cities.
Hi, as a non-gypsy Bulgarian i'd like to say: Thank you Europe for accepting most of our gypsies! In the 1990s and the beginning of the 2000's the EU politicians (including Britains) used to be so critical of how we Bulgarians treated our gypsy population(at that time they were no more than 1 million). Now you guys have a chance to deal with them, and for that I will say again: THANK YOU! And also: I'm SORRY. I want to warn you: these people lived on the Balkans for more than 500 years (they came from India with the Ottomans in the 15th Century) and they could not be integrated, they will not go to school or work.
most "of your gypsies" are in Bulgaria. Your writing resembles quite a few of the typical xenophobic views people have against foreigners, list the restrictions and pre-justice and discriminations those immigrants have to deal with for centuries, in Bulgaria for nealy 800 years. It is hard to integrate when you are denied education, jobs or accomodation in the last 15+ generations.
We dont like youre lot either
well, that part with integration is not quite right. We (central Europe bordering to Balkan) have two Romani population. One population has integrated - they go to work, send children to school, build houses, have their own kindergatern, generally don't commit crime. The other population across the country is a totall pain in the a$$. Completly different story.
15:00 "That machine doesn't get paid" it won't be paying taxes either.
And here's where the true hidden cost of automation is. Corporation taxation won't be able to cover the loss of tax revenue from reduded income/NI tax payments, people will have to move/leave/die, reducing council tax income, won't buy as many items, reducing VAT income
Any single company automating its work isn't responsible for the economy it interacts with, and every company has an incentive to automate to reduce their overheads. Without forward planning from an overseer, this is a guaranteed crisis
it also doesnt pay social security insurances or into retirement pots and this is happening for the last 40 years since automation in producing industries is happening. It was said back then that this will have impacts now where the demographics are the opposite than in the 60-90s when there were more young than old in western countries.
Its a town stuck in the 1950's.
The UK is 50 years behind China in technology and modernity.
China has deprived (rural) areas too.
@@timonsolus Just spent 10 days in China. China is on another level. There are robot drones flying in Shanghai that deliver your post. China is producing vast amounts of top quality students in fields like robotics and material engineering.
@@ramatgan1 Exactly that is the future... This town wants to look and behave like the 50s but with a functioning economy lol
@user-rk9it9hz6g me? I lived in Shandong for just under 2 years nearly 10 years ago... Yeh it was undeveloped but actually they were also trying to improve where they could and develop their infrastructure and use of technology unlike here
@user-rk9it9hz6g I work in supply chain management and for 10 years I have been travelling in and out of China. I'm not a tourist who spends days in the central part of town and then leaves and that is it. Its like spending a few days in Knightsbridge. I been to factories in way out places and spending at a time in little towns.
As a Bulgarian I can definitely say that my English is significantly better than hers.What a high self confidence this Lithuanian lady has.Unbelievable.......
I live in Lincoln, most people in my area are large African families & Asians. It's happened over the past 2 years. You see them walking down the main road with suitcases coming from the hotels they've been sent from. I have never ever seen 2 people from a different culture saying hello to each other or speaking in any way in the 7 years I've lived in the area.
A snapshot that each town in the UK can look forward to becoming. Gotta love that Brexit, that is here to fix everything for you.
@PoliticsJOE, in your video you state that "The town's immigrant population increased by 460% between 2004 and 2014, then multiplied by ten between 2011 and 2021". Asides from ONS data, where are you getting this information? Please cite your sources in the video description. For the first claim about 2004-2014, all I'm finding is news articles regurgitating that 460%. If the ONS data verifies that then this is fine, although it's interesting to note the decision to use a large percentage number for a town which in 2011 had a population of just 64,600 then grew by 9.1% to 70,500 in 2021. So an increase of 5,900, barely 6,000.
For the second claim of 2011-2021, I'm not seeing any ONS census data that reflects a tenfold increase at all. This sounds like something dredged up from elsewhere on the internet with little to back it up. Again, the use of large numbers like 460% and multipliers like 10x in reference to maybe a few hundred or couple thousand people at the most is an interesting decision. More than happy to see the actual data and not just quotes from unverified internet sources.
@user-rk9it9hz6g Well go on then, prove that ridiculous claim.
Surely, if you have a host of machines, the work changes from doing what the machine does, to maintaining the machine. The manpower doesn't drop as such, it changes. There are a slew of machines to aid farming automation.
it drops as well, unless you can scale up production a lot. And in case of farming you really can't.
@@Desimere Syngenta can.
Quite right, keeping the machines going will be the next big and interesting profession.
Only fishing port (though small, but still have a fleet) in the world where you struggle to get seafood apart from fish and chips,
I lived and worked in UK for 5-6 years, I'm Lithuanian and old english guys were my best friends and helpers Garry and Phil my god do I sometimes miss you guys. We worked hard and left because of brexit and to be honest I dont understand how in this documentry they are claimimg that people are still comming from eastern Europe, you guys closed it. Even with national insurance number and all paid taxes I cannot come back and work. I have no debts, I never needed any benefits and your politicians don't need that. Now you are getting muslims families without any education or documents, with questionab le morals, enjoy.
Complacency oozing from that Lithuanian woman. Talk about pulling the ladder up after you. The English lady in the potato factory is way off the Farage message.
Really enjoyed this longer form video. Reminded me of John Harris' pieces on the Guardian. Keep it up!
How can migrants complain about other migrants? 🤷
Does Farage sound like a an English name to you? How about Rishi Sunak? Priti Patel? People benefit from migration then pull the ladder up after them.
Farage is a french name and that's not exactly uncommon. Do you know what type of people white British people are?
Because being a migrant doesn't mean you agree with mass uncontrolled migration. Doesn't take a genius to recognise that
The Welsh and Scots working in England do it all the time.
@@witsend236 They're not migrants
Would like to see statistics how great Boston was prior to 2004
Haha! Is that a Moroccan immigrant, working in a French themed cafe in England that voted for Brexit!? That’s hilarious. England is a gammon magnet.
Which of all the immigrant groups should we stop?
'Well the Europeans obviously.' - UK.
Optical sorters need almost constant supervision.
Yes, but it needs supervision by fewer people and more skilled people than low skilled labour doing it by hand.
@@bishboshs OS are easily confused. They hate dirt, moisture and wind. Can`t think of a worse way to deal with spuds.
Iceland dominates that field. The country not the company
@@brinjoness3386 Same people