Thank you for watching and supporting the channel. For more Elizabeth (and Adelaide) that was, please Like the video and hit the Subscribe button. Cheers, Will 🙏
Great work Will. I find it so sad...what's happened to the Elizabeth I knew as a child, and the wilful destruction of her most beautiful areas. The 'local' shops, now ugly derelict. The gardens gone and the discarded trolley like litter everywhere. Now, the ugly 'urban spread on agricultural land. Thank you for keeping the hopes and dreams of our families relevant and unforgettable.
I feel you, Susan. I must say, doing this doco series has given me a sense of coming full circle in understanding what happened to the world around me. Hopefully it helps others, too. And stands as a sense of pride not only for those who were there, but those who come after when discovering their own history, and the tough stock they came from. Thank you, as always, for watching and supporting the channel. It's much appreciated :-) Warmest, Will
Again, a great job Will. Lived in Salisbury North 1954-1961 and watched the development of Elizabeth throughout. Dad was LRWE/WRE and Fairey Aviation. Mum a school teacher Salisbury North. My folks moved toward Adelaide in the late 60s but I travelled to Elizabeth on my annual return from RAAF Service for some 20 years. Very evocative images and a great story told of just how quickly the best of intentions, even with huge expenditure, can unfold. Well done.
Thank you, Roy. That is much appreciated, mate. I'm glad to hear all the positive feedback, and all the wonderful stories people have been sharing with me and each other. It's made it all worth while. Cheers, Will :-)
Thank you for this well-researched and well-narrated series. I have lived in the Elizabeth area for 52 years, minus 15 or so years spent living in the rural mid-north (the only way I could afford to raise my two kids somewhere nice). I've watched it change from a booming satellite city in the late-70s to the unemployment scrap-heap it became in the 90s (which is when I moved to the country), to what is essentially now a commuter suburb for people working in Adelaide. Watching this series, and this last video in particular, has evoked such an emotional response in me. It can be hard to watch change, but change is also necessary.
My pleasure, Bella. Researching and making this has answered many questions for me relating to how everything went downhill so quickly, and how far removed Elizabeth is today to what was originally planned and hoped for. It must be heartbreaking at times for those who were there to build it, between 1955 and 1970. I was born in 1970, growing up in Smithfield Plains. That was a very different experience from the 15 years that preceded my birth with so much hope and optimism. Everything so new. And Elizabeth today isn't remotely what it was like when I was growing up. It could be rough, but it wasn't derelict in parts or suffering so much depression and hopelessness. It's astonishing how many changes took place in such a short time. How many Elizabeth's there have already been, in such a short time. And, of course, her story isn't over. Perhaps things will come full circle one day and she will see happier times again. It will take new and special leadership, however. But, you never know. Thank you for watching, Bella. Much appreciated :-)
@elizabeththatwas "How many Elizabeths there have already been, and in such a short time." Spot-on. Wow. You were born the same year as I, 1970. So I guess our experiences of growing up in Elizabeth are very similar. I was born in Hope Valley, but we moved to Elizabeth Park when I was 2. Moved to Elizabeth East when I was 8, and never left until 1994, returning in 2009. I live behind the house I grew up in. The northern section of Hillbank didn't exist when I left, and a lot had changed when I returned to the East 15 yrs later. The biggest change is the amount of traffic on the road I live on now. It's insane. I feel like the council has been struggling to keep up in terms of roads and infrastructure, but I am starting to see some positive progress in the past couple of years. I hope it continues. 🙂
@@BellaBarossa Oh, my. Have you seen Curtis Road? That thing is crying for some extra lanes. The amount of houses and apartments that have been built without taking traffic into account. I just don't get it. When I was a kid, the area behind Curtis road was all paddocks and farms. Curtis Road has not changed in all that time. Crazy
@@elizabeththatwas oh, Curtis Road! That area around the Peachey Rd/Curtis Rd intersection had completely changed by the time I returned from the mid-north. I still struggle to recognise it. I don't drive down there very often, mainly because of that impossibly narrow single lane bottleneck. I had a boyfriend who lived in Smithfield Plains back in the late 1980s, just off Peachey Road. So I spent a lot of time in that area as a newly P-plated teenager. It's barely recognisable to me now. And sooo busy!
Thanks for the memories, I remember playing on that steam train in about 1975 waiting to be picked up, so sad what happened to Elizabeth was a nice place once.
My pleasure, mate. Thank you for watching. BTW, That train is now in service on the cockle train line down at Victor Harbour. Which is a nice happy ending for her :-)
Brilliant. One of the 3 main reasons I began this channel, and in particular this series, is because I wanted to present an alternative narrative to the more common one presented about Elizabeth for people who only hear about her problems today on the news. Something a little more hopeful and honouring of the people who left everything behind and took a chance on creating a future in an entirely new town. That takes a lot of hutzpah :-) Thank you for watching, and for the very kind words. Much appreciated :-) Will
Wow it's been a long time since I heard the name WRE, thats where my mother worked. Skating, swimming and the Hotel Elizabeth which I think was across the road (mmm Sarsaparilla) Oh and of course the Octagon. Golden Bread T-shirts were popular and some sneakers that Had a Surfboard in the sole, long time ago. Cheers once again wonderfully put together, thank you.
Thank you Stew. Have you watched Episode 4 on Salisbury North? There's lots of WRE footage from the 50s in that episode. As well as the video titled "Guided Weapons Testing Woomera, Edinburgh Airfield & the WRE Salisbury." You can find both on the homepage. Cheers again for watching Stew. Always appreciated :-)
Well done Will! Dad went from SAR to WRE to GM/H, mum was a nurse at WRE then SAHT... Took em 3wks to get a house (Hogarth Rd then Manningford Rd) back then.. now it's 13 yrs +... anywhere!! I keep looking out for mum or dad to be in the pics, naa, no luck yet!
Mate, have you checked out the Playford's Past Recollect website? I sourced a number of shots from there. You can check it out via this link: playfordspast.recollect.net.au/ There are thousands of images there. You never know, you just may spot your mum and dad in one of them. All the best, Will
Hi Will wow fantastic job. The turn off just after the West garden centre was the street my brothers crash repairs used to be Elizabeth West Crash repairs, late 70s and through to 2,000s. It's all changed now totally unrecognisable. I went for a drive last year and I got lost I couldn't make out where I was. Anyway top job mate very well done.👍🏻
Thank you Geoff. Yes, my old neighbourhood in Smithfield Plains is unrecognisable, too. I got disorientated when I visited there for the first time in years back in 2018. Most of my old street had been demolished. New houses have been built since, but that day there was nothing. That experience actually led to this channel. Your brother ran that business for over 2 decades. That's very cool. Thank you for all your support, mate. Much appreciated :-)
This is an excellent series. The analysis and historical perspectives are revealing and in many ways quite profound. A question that arises for me is what the future may hold. The Elizabeth envisaged in the 1950s will no doubt meld even further and indistinguishably into the 21st century Australian urban landscape. But I wonder if new opportunities and/or unanticipated change are awaiting their turn in the cycle? Change is constant; and I suppose time (twenty years?) will tell.
Excellent observation @topghia. As this channel covers the Elizabeth that was, it can seem a little depressing, or finite. But, I agree with you. We don't know what the future holds, or what unforeseen influences may emerge in the future - any more than Elizabeth's originals and planners were able to see the unforeseen circumstances that would lead to her downfall. The future is unwritten. Who knows, maybe she'll even return to her own council body again, one day. Thank you for watching, and for the kind words. Much appreciated :-) Will
I would love to have experienced Elizabeth between 1955 and 1970. A very unique experience to live through, I would think. Thanks for watching Tom. Hope the video brought back some happy memories. Cheers, Will :-)
grew up in theVale int the 60,s and 70,s those were good days no ferals in the HT homes back then,, every primary school even had a rugby team , i still remember watching the Octogen getting built ,playing on the old cannon on windsor green even the old city centre had character, weekends we walked up the the horse stables behind Eliz/ East... and as school rushing to the front of the Tramsway bus.. now head north you take the expressway and bypass it. miss the old days but not elizabeth,,, now in my 60,s people still ask where does my accent come ..aussie with a touch english.
How cool. I would love to have been around then, watching the Octagon get built, etc. Such a unique time. I was born 1970, so all of those iconic structures and landmarks were already just freshly built. That clock tower has seen much come and go. Thank for watching, Gary. Much appreciated :-) Will
I was born in the Lyell McEwan in 1964 and grew up in Elizabeth West. Even in the good times the West was a bit rough. Most of the West and Fields were rental maisonetts for unskilled factory workers etc which probably explains why that was so. It just seemed like that not many people cared about their properties because they didn't own them or had much money etc after a hard slog at work performing lower paid unskilled jobs. Its all to do with that social economic stuff. For those who truly know and have studied it, and it is touched on in these videos, Elizabeth was also a social experiment. My parents were allocated a free standing home to buy in the West in 1960 and every thing was organised in London before they emigrated with 3 children. I guess if they had known or could have made an inspection the Vale, Grove or the Park would have been their choice. Mostly freestanding houses in those nicer suburbs at that time. My Father was a school teacher and my mother was a modern woman for those times and worked as a secretary. My younger sister was also born in Elizabeth in 1966 so now there were 5 children. We had outside care when very small because my mother worked and then we became latch key kids..... the older kids looking after the younger ones until the parents got home from work.... as we grew older. I guess we stood out like sore thumbs in the West because of the two good incomes and therefore 2 newer cars up the driveway when most others only had one older car and our house and garden were always immaculate right up until the end when the West had become very welfare and dilapidated. We left and moved to a nice seaside suburb in 1980 when the West was really getting bad. It was like going to a whole different world. Like you I have entered my 60,s and many people have asked me for a very long time where my accent comes from....Also Aussie with a touch of English. I guess you and I and other 1st generation Elizabeth kids have a unique accent and you could call it Elizabethan.
Elizabeth has been destroyed by poorly qualified Council management that used their positions in the Elizabeth Council as a stepping stone to a more Lucrative position in other Council areas or Politics . Elizabeth has suffered because of bad decisions by unqualified and untalented CEO'S & so called Managers . The main problem was and is ; people with the true ability will not Lower themselves by taking up a position in ELIZABETH .
Although mostly factual, the video paints a dark , gloomy, depressing picture of Elizabeth. Having been in the area since 1959, Ive seen a lot of change, a lot of it for the better. You dont mention the schools, hospitals, roads, freeways...etc. The development of Munno Para, and Smithfield has been fantastic....previously it was a bit of a run down no mans land. A real credit to the Govt, and the council. All my life Ive listened to people bagging Elizabeth, most have never lived there....Will always be a great place to live, plenty of worse places in the state...😊
I lived in Elizabeth between 1970 and 1996. I have since lived in many places, returning regularly to Elizabeth to visit family, friends etc. My home suburbs of Smithfield Plains and Daveron Park (Elizabeth Fields), are very depressing for me to revisit. Most of my childhood friends homes don't even exist anymore, our schools closed and left to rot and vandalism for years before eventually being demolished. Old neighbourhood shops pretty much left to do the same. This channel was a response to that, to restore the memory of those I grew up with. That's how it started, anyway. I don't set out to paint a gloomy picture. I research the history and try to present it as objectively, and as honestly to my perspective and experience, as I can. I respect your opinion, and love that you stand up for Elizabeth. I'm sure many things would have been different if more of us had had your sense of community pride and spirit. Personally, I hate the idea of 'Super Schools', schools so big the individual gets lost because there is no way teachers can provide personalised education with the amount of pupils crammed into their classrooms. The amount of schools built in the area was specifically to avoid over crowding. Not that I blame Playford Council for that. That is an issue nation wide. Anyway, thank you for watching, and for sharing your views with us. Much appreciated.
@@elizabeththatwas yeh, for sure, theres areas and homes that need more tlc....its mainly the rentals and the lowlifes that live there...but thats not just Elizabeth, its across the state....dont dwell on the negatives... Elizabeth is one of Australias great success stories. Men of great vision set out to do something good...a pity theres not more of it now. Sad..
Hey, Margy. Yes, it was, actually. It was attached to the Shedley, together they made up the Elizabeth Civic Theatres. The Shedley still remains, but the Octagon is most definitely gone. You can see the demolished remains in the link here, although the date is wrong. The demo took place early 2000s: playfordspast.recollect.net.au/nodes/view/20532?keywords=The+Octagon&highlights=WyJvY3RhZ29uIl0%3D&lsk=63dbb7aa65abd9eddc1843b60fb06145
Thank you for watching and supporting the channel. For more Elizabeth (and Adelaide) that was, please Like the video and hit the Subscribe button. Cheers, Will 🙏
Great work Will. I find it so sad...what's happened to the Elizabeth I knew as a child, and the wilful destruction of her most beautiful areas.
The 'local' shops, now ugly derelict. The gardens gone and the discarded trolley like litter everywhere. Now, the ugly 'urban spread on agricultural land.
Thank you for keeping the hopes and dreams of our families relevant and unforgettable.
I feel you, Susan. I must say, doing this doco series has given me a sense of coming full circle in understanding what happened to the world around me. Hopefully it helps others, too. And stands as a sense of pride not only for those who were there, but those who come after when discovering their own history, and the tough stock they came from. Thank you, as always, for watching and supporting the channel. It's much appreciated :-) Warmest, Will
Well informed, well observed and well articulated - great work Will.
Thank you kindly, that is much appreciated! Warmest, Will :-)
Again, a great job Will. Lived in Salisbury North 1954-1961 and watched the development of Elizabeth throughout. Dad was LRWE/WRE and Fairey Aviation. Mum a school teacher Salisbury North. My folks moved toward Adelaide in the late 60s but I travelled to Elizabeth on my annual return from RAAF Service for some 20 years. Very evocative images and a great story told of just how quickly the best of intentions, even with huge expenditure, can unfold. Well done.
Thank you, Roy. That is much appreciated, mate. I'm glad to hear all the positive feedback, and all the wonderful stories people have been sharing with me and each other. It's made it all worth while. Cheers, Will :-)
Thank you for this well-researched and well-narrated series. I have lived in the Elizabeth area for 52 years, minus 15 or so years spent living in the rural mid-north (the only way I could afford to raise my two kids somewhere nice). I've watched it change from a booming satellite city in the late-70s to the unemployment scrap-heap it became in the 90s (which is when I moved to the country), to what is essentially now a commuter suburb for people working in Adelaide.
Watching this series, and this last video in particular, has evoked such an emotional response in me. It can be hard to watch change, but change is also necessary.
My pleasure, Bella. Researching and making this has answered many questions for me relating to how everything went downhill so quickly, and how far removed Elizabeth is today to what was originally planned and hoped for. It must be heartbreaking at times for those who were there to build it, between 1955 and 1970. I was born in 1970, growing up in Smithfield Plains. That was a very different experience from the 15 years that preceded my birth with so much hope and optimism. Everything so new. And Elizabeth today isn't remotely what it was like when I was growing up. It could be rough, but it wasn't derelict in parts or suffering so much depression and hopelessness. It's astonishing how many changes took place in such a short time. How many Elizabeth's there have already been, in such a short time. And, of course, her story isn't over. Perhaps things will come full circle one day and she will see happier times again. It will take new and special leadership, however. But, you never know. Thank you for watching, Bella. Much appreciated :-)
@elizabeththatwas "How many Elizabeths there have already been, and in such a short time." Spot-on.
Wow. You were born the same year as I, 1970. So I guess our experiences of growing up in Elizabeth are very similar. I was born in Hope Valley, but we moved to Elizabeth Park when I was 2. Moved to Elizabeth East when I was 8, and never left until 1994, returning in 2009. I live behind the house I grew up in. The northern section of Hillbank didn't exist when I left, and a lot had changed when I returned to the East 15 yrs later.
The biggest change is the amount of traffic on the road I live on now. It's insane. I feel like the council has been struggling to keep up in terms of roads and infrastructure, but I am starting to see some positive progress in the past couple of years. I hope it continues. 🙂
@@BellaBarossa Oh, my. Have you seen Curtis Road? That thing is crying for some extra lanes. The amount of houses and apartments that have been built without taking traffic into account. I just don't get it. When I was a kid, the area behind Curtis road was all paddocks and farms. Curtis Road has not changed in all that time. Crazy
@@elizabeththatwas oh, Curtis Road! That area around the Peachey Rd/Curtis Rd intersection had completely changed by the time I returned from the mid-north. I still struggle to recognise it. I don't drive down there very often, mainly because of that impossibly narrow single lane bottleneck.
I had a boyfriend who lived in Smithfield Plains back in the late 1980s, just off Peachey Road. So I spent a lot of time in that area as a newly P-plated teenager. It's barely recognisable to me now. And sooo busy!
Thanks for the memories, I remember playing on that steam train in about 1975 waiting to be picked up, so sad what happened to Elizabeth was a nice place once.
My pleasure, mate. Thank you for watching. BTW, That train is now in service on the cockle train line down at Victor Harbour. Which is a nice happy ending for her :-)
Great series! Thank you for your exceptional work. I grew up in Adelaide in the 80s and had no idea about Elizabeth pre-downturn.
Brilliant. One of the 3 main reasons I began this channel, and in particular this series, is because I wanted to present an alternative narrative to the more common one presented about Elizabeth for people who only hear about her problems today on the news. Something a little more hopeful and honouring of the people who left everything behind and took a chance on creating a future in an entirely new town. That takes a lot of hutzpah :-) Thank you for watching, and for the very kind words. Much appreciated :-) Will
Thank you, this was really informative.
My pleasure. Thank you for watching. Much appreciated :-) Will
Wow it's been a long time since I heard the name WRE, thats where my mother worked. Skating, swimming and the Hotel Elizabeth which I think was across the road (mmm Sarsaparilla) Oh and of course the Octagon. Golden Bread T-shirts were popular and some sneakers that Had a Surfboard in the sole, long time ago. Cheers once again wonderfully put together, thank you.
Thank you Stew. Have you watched Episode 4 on Salisbury North? There's lots of WRE footage from the 50s in that episode. As well as the video titled "Guided Weapons Testing Woomera, Edinburgh Airfield & the WRE Salisbury." You can find both on the homepage. Cheers again for watching Stew. Always appreciated :-)
@@elizabeththatwas Oh thank you very much, I shall halve a look, Cheers.
Thank you for such an interesting documentary.
My pleasure. Glad you enjoyed it. Thank you for watching, it is much appreciated. Will :-)
Well done Will!
Dad went from SAR to WRE to GM/H, mum was a nurse at WRE then SAHT...
Took em 3wks to get a house (Hogarth Rd then Manningford Rd) back then.. now it's 13 yrs +... anywhere!!
I keep looking out for mum or dad to be in the pics, naa, no luck yet!
Mate, have you checked out the Playford's Past Recollect website? I sourced a number of shots from there. You can check it out via this link: playfordspast.recollect.net.au/
There are thousands of images there. You never know, you just may spot your mum and dad in one of them. All the best, Will
@@elizabeththatwas Thanks mate, appreciate it.
Hi Will wow fantastic job. The turn off just after the West garden centre was the street my brothers crash repairs used to be Elizabeth West Crash repairs, late 70s and through to 2,000s. It's all changed now totally unrecognisable. I went for a drive last year and I got lost I couldn't make out where I was. Anyway top job mate very well done.👍🏻
Thank you Geoff. Yes, my old neighbourhood in Smithfield Plains is unrecognisable, too. I got disorientated when I visited there for the first time in years back in 2018. Most of my old street had been demolished. New houses have been built since, but that day there was nothing. That experience actually led to this channel. Your brother ran that business for over 2 decades. That's very cool. Thank you for all your support, mate. Much appreciated :-)
This is an excellent series. The analysis and historical perspectives are revealing and in many ways quite profound. A question that arises for me is what the future may hold. The Elizabeth envisaged in the 1950s will no doubt meld even further and indistinguishably into the 21st century Australian urban landscape. But I wonder if new opportunities and/or unanticipated change are awaiting their turn in the cycle? Change is constant; and I suppose time (twenty years?) will tell.
Excellent observation @topghia. As this channel covers the Elizabeth that was, it can seem a little depressing, or finite. But, I agree with you. We don't know what the future holds, or what unforeseen influences may emerge in the future - any more than Elizabeth's originals and planners were able to see the unforeseen circumstances that would lead to her downfall. The future is unwritten. Who knows, maybe she'll even return to her own council body again, one day. Thank you for watching, and for the kind words. Much appreciated :-) Will
The 60‘s certainly the best years for Elizabeth. Lived in Elizabeth East 64-71.
I would love to have experienced Elizabeth between 1955 and 1970. A very unique experience to live through, I would think. Thanks for watching Tom. Hope the video brought back some happy memories. Cheers, Will :-)
So easy to shoplift back then.
Makes you almost cry for how it's become today.
Not the vision Thomas Playford had in mind, that's for sure. Thank you for watching @strazd86. Much appreciated :-) Will
grew up in theVale int the 60,s and 70,s those were good days no ferals in the HT homes back then,, every primary school even had a rugby team , i still remember watching the Octogen getting built ,playing on the old cannon on windsor green even the old city centre had character, weekends we walked up the the horse stables behind Eliz/ East... and as school rushing to the front of the Tramsway bus.. now head north you take the expressway and bypass it. miss the old days but not elizabeth,,, now in my 60,s people still ask where does my accent come ..aussie with a touch english.
How cool. I would love to have been around then, watching the Octagon get built, etc. Such a unique time. I was born 1970, so all of those iconic structures and landmarks were already just freshly built. That clock tower has seen much come and go. Thank for watching, Gary. Much appreciated :-) Will
I was born in the Lyell McEwan in 1964 and grew up in Elizabeth West. Even in the good times the West was a bit rough. Most of the West and Fields were rental maisonetts for unskilled factory workers etc which probably explains why that was so. It just seemed like that not many people cared about their properties because they didn't own them or had much money etc after a hard slog at work performing lower paid unskilled jobs. Its all to do with that social economic stuff.
For those who truly know and have studied it, and it is touched on in these videos, Elizabeth was also a social experiment.
My parents were allocated a free standing home to buy in the West in 1960 and every thing was organised in London before they emigrated with 3 children. I guess if they had known or could have made an inspection the Vale, Grove or the Park would have been their choice. Mostly freestanding houses in those nicer suburbs at that time.
My Father was a school teacher and my mother was a modern woman for those times and worked as a secretary.
My younger sister was also born in Elizabeth in 1966 so now there were 5 children. We had outside care when very small because my mother worked and then we became latch key kids..... the older kids looking after the younger ones until the parents got home from work.... as we grew older.
I guess we stood out like sore thumbs in the West because of the two good incomes and therefore 2 newer cars up the driveway when most others only had one older car and our house and garden were always immaculate right up until the end when the West had become very welfare and dilapidated.
We left and moved to a nice seaside suburb in 1980 when the West was really getting bad. It was like going to a whole different world.
Like you I have entered my 60,s and many people have asked me for a very long time where my accent comes from....Also Aussie with a touch of English.
I guess you and I and other 1st generation Elizabeth kids have a unique accent and you could call it Elizabethan.
Elizabeth has been destroyed by poorly qualified Council management that used their positions in the Elizabeth Council as a stepping stone to a more Lucrative position in other Council areas or Politics . Elizabeth has suffered because of bad decisions by unqualified and untalented CEO'S & so called Managers . The main problem was and is ; people with the true ability will not Lower themselves by taking up a position in ELIZABETH .
Thank you for watching, @crustymoto, and for sharing your thoughts. Much appreciated :-) Will
Very sad what happened to all those dreams.
Agreed. Thank you for watching. much appreciated :-) Will
Although mostly factual, the video paints a dark , gloomy, depressing picture of Elizabeth. Having been in the area since 1959, Ive seen a lot of change, a lot of it for the better. You dont mention the schools, hospitals, roads, freeways...etc. The development of Munno Para, and Smithfield has been fantastic....previously it was a bit of a run down no mans land. A real credit to the Govt, and the council. All my life Ive listened to people bagging Elizabeth, most have never lived there....Will always be a great place to live, plenty of worse places in the state...😊
I lived in Elizabeth between 1970 and 1996. I have since lived in many places, returning regularly to Elizabeth to visit family, friends etc. My home suburbs of Smithfield Plains and Daveron Park (Elizabeth Fields), are very depressing for me to revisit. Most of my childhood friends homes don't even exist anymore, our schools closed and left to rot and vandalism for years before eventually being demolished. Old neighbourhood shops pretty much left to do the same. This channel was a response to that, to restore the memory of those I grew up with. That's how it started, anyway. I don't set out to paint a gloomy picture. I research the history and try to present it as objectively, and as honestly to my perspective and experience, as I can. I respect your opinion, and love that you stand up for Elizabeth. I'm sure many things would have been different if more of us had had your sense of community pride and spirit. Personally, I hate the idea of 'Super Schools', schools so big the individual gets lost because there is no way teachers can provide personalised education with the amount of pupils crammed into their classrooms. The amount of schools built in the area was specifically to avoid over crowding. Not that I blame Playford Council for that. That is an issue nation wide. Anyway, thank you for watching, and for sharing your views with us. Much appreciated.
@@elizabeththatwas yeh, for sure, theres areas and homes that need more tlc....its mainly the rentals and the lowlifes that live there...but thats not just Elizabeth, its across the state....dont dwell on the negatives... Elizabeth is one of Australias great success stories. Men of great vision set out to do something good...a pity theres not more of it now. Sad..
The Octagon was not demolished.
Hey, Margy. Yes, it was, actually. It was attached to the Shedley, together they made up the Elizabeth Civic Theatres. The Shedley still remains, but the Octagon is most definitely gone. You can see the demolished remains in the link here, although the date is wrong. The demo took place early 2000s:
playfordspast.recollect.net.au/nodes/view/20532?keywords=The+Octagon&highlights=WyJvY3RhZ29uIl0%3D&lsk=63dbb7aa65abd9eddc1843b60fb06145
lol at 15:33
Subtle, isn't it?