Thanks man! That was my goal all along, just something that worked for my purposes. Yeah a 100% perfect to scale Longitude would've been cool, but for one it didn't match my skill set required to do that🤣and two, it would've taken MUCH long than this did... and I just wanted to fly!😁
@@skytation how did you get such a clean install on the MFD and such? I've got an 11.5 inch instruments display but it looks kind of sloppy how it sets into that Flight Velocity panel.
So the search for the screens to use on the MFD/PFDs took a bit. I needed to find one not only the right size, but that also didn't have the connection ports on the side like about 95% of the ones typically do. I finally came across the ones you see in the video which had the connection ports in the back, which then allowed me to just an opening in the dash panel big enough to fit the back part that had all the connection ports on it, and then the bezel of the screen just rested up flush against dash panel.
If you haven’t upgraded your glare shield yet I have a tip on a great solution. I’ve used whacky wood. It’s a thin plywood that actually can bend. I used it for an F/A18 glare shield.
Unfortunately didn't document any of this build, but I am getting ready to begin a series of videos documenting "project transformer" which will be this cockpit, only WAY better.... stay tuned!
Neat uses for the Streamdeck. For XP, I ended up building a custom Teensy controller for my desktop with all custom code to make multiple uses of buttons (video buried somewhere on my x-plane playlist on my channel). This would have been MUCH slicker!
Yep, I've mentioned many times when people ask why didn't you do a full scale exact replica Citation cockpit. Simple answer... I didn't want. For real, though, I wanted something that could go between different planes should I ever choose to, something that wouldn't take me years and years to build because I'd have to learn how to make and program all those buttons/switches/etc, and stream decks just turned out to be the perfect solution for me and my use case. It's not for everyone, but it definitely worked for me!
Did I miss it? You didn't cover the 2 touchscreens! On the thumb nail it says 2 $60 touchscreens. I was curious what they are and how you set them up. Thanks
Nope, no molding. Just 1/2” MDF and a 3D printer. I designed the window opening/bezel in fusion 360 and that is all 3D printed. Then it’s just glued together and fit into the opening I cut in the 1/2” MDF that makes up the rest of the side panel. Filled the seams, sanded, painted 👍
I’m building a shared cockpit and I’m stuck in how to get the correct camera angles because I’m stuck on that the co pilot side is seeing what the pilot would see, I would appreciate if for part 3 you could include and show how u got the window views and front windshield views
Well, so what I had been using was the render window settings in the "experimental" tab in the settings page. However, after much trial and tribulation of trying to get it set up so the views appeared as realistic as possible, I've decided I may just try and stretch one main view across all 3 monitors. I'm trying this using nvidia surround in the nvidia control panel and just creating one MASSIVE monitor with my main and two side monitors. Initial tests this weekend were successful, it gave me the correct horizon angles I was wanting from all 3 monitors, but going to mess with it a bit more. Whatever I decide to end up going with I'll make a video on how I did it for you.
@@skytation This helps a lot. Myself I have been using the "stretch" for car racing and it is so far the best solution as well. The experimental tab .. ok, but not so accurate.
The sim is in pieces at the moment and so I can’t get to it on the computer. You have to use axis and ohs, and I think on his website he has a sample stream deck plus profile you can download to get started, that’s how I did mine. You also may try searching flightsim.to for stream deck plus profiles, there may be some out there.
You have to find the event names (assuming you're using AAO) for those events. If you look on the working title discord server there's a lot of references on there to them.
Nice home cockpit! Great choice of aircraft. The WT G5000 implementation with GTC controllers is the future of home cockpits. IMO Simplifies everything to a couple of touchscreen monitors and still gives fexibility to change aircraft. In combination with an AFCS on touchscreen and a few other items one can fly mouse/keyboard free. Well, that said, I am confused by the use of stream deck buttons for aircraft control. Why not use Air Manager, 3 monitors and 1 or 2 touchscreens below? There is a new complete panel for Citation Long by Sling coming out in AM 4.2. The stream deck route seems to be just another level of dependency which opens the door for more bugs. IMO one should be twisting and pushing buttons or icons that are a close proximity to the real thing. Please take no offense. I guess this is what youtube comments section is for, right? Have been Using XP for 20 years building pits. Now using MSFS. Not affiliated. I use AM, Corsair Vengeance 4090 3 LG 32" 1440p, 2 Asus 21" Touchscreens for MFD/PFD/AFCS. Fly on VATSIM IFR in Longitude almost exclusively with minimal keyboard and mouse. Very immersive. Good luck
Honestly, I don't like AM, that's why I didn't use it. Just a personal preference really. Chose stream decks because I like the actual physical button push I got from it, not just the tap of a screen. I said numerous times when building this that I was not going for 100% scale realism, but simply just "what worked best for me." And when I saw the ability to incorporate stream decks into the cockpit (especially the stream deck + with its rotary knobs and stuff) it was a no brainer for me. Just like everything in flight sim, simply boiled down to personal preference. And aside from using the mouse to set up the flight, I have zero need for the mouse/keyboard from beginning to end of flight. Like you said, makes it very immersive.
@@skytation I am looking at getting the streamdeck +, can I ask if there is anything special I need to do to get the rotary knobs working for zoom in and out on the maps? This would make things so much simpler for me. Thank you
@@livelandings747 you have to make sure you’re running it all through something like AAO or spad. Whichever one you use will determine the event names you use for the knobs. I think spad has a discord server where you could find help for it, and I found the working title discord helped me a lot when trying to get mine to work with AAO. In the end it’s basically a lot of scouring the internet and message boards trying to find the exact functions you need.
I think your sim looks awesome, but I do wonder if it would look better if the nose of the aircraft was scaled up to be visible to the pilot /user? Just curious 🤔
Yep, that would be cool, and was part of the original plan. As well as being able to see the wing tips out the back of the side windows. However, in order to fully remove the virtual cockpit from the views, I had to clip the camera forward far enough for that to happen which in turn meant the nose and wings were not able to be in view :( If Asobo can perfect their "home cockpit view" which promises to leave the camera in the default position, but not render in any of the virtual cockpit, that would all be solved. But it's been several years now, and it hasn't come, not sure if it ever will.
Would you be willing to share the stream deck mounts for both stream decks? I went shopping using your Amazon links and realized that there’s no way to mount them :) I have a 3d printer so if you would share the files I can print it :)
@@skytation awesome! I’m in the middle of a sim build and it would help to know how they attach so I can get that cut correctly. Thanks for doing that!
Hey, here again because I've been inspired to create my own home cockpit! I dug up an old iPad Mini and was wanting to create a single GTC570 out of it. I've tried to use the MSFS popout panels, but I can't exactly setup the touchscreen on the iPad. Currently, if I press a button on the GTC, my cursor teleports over to the iPad screen and clicks it. In turn, for some reason, when my cursor is off the screen, none of my flight controls work. So, how'd you do it?
If you’re just using the native pop out functionality in MSFS it won’t work. It doesn’t support touch functionality. You need to use a program called Popout Panel Manager that’s on the flightsim.to site. Once you use it to pop out the screen there will be a checkbox for each popout screen where you can select whether or not it is a touchscreen.
@@skytation My last comment was removed because it had a link in it, but basically, I calibrated everything and it still doesn't work. I can send you a video via email if you like.
@@polar_baer if you want to jump over to the discord and post your video that would work best. Lots of other guys on there as well who may use iPads who can help troubleshoot. Link to the discord is in my channel banner.
Sorry, I get this question a lot, and honestly I didn't keep track. I do always preface it with the fact that I already had the PC, all the (main monitors), one set of flight controls, etc. So if someone is starting completely from scratch with none of that, then it definitely will be upwards of several thousands for sure.
Total cost for me was about $1500 when all said and done, but I had so much stuff already. One full set of flight controls, all the monitors needed for the exterior views, the PC, a good chunk of the wood/building materials…
This would have to be the worst cockpit ever. What's the point of an enclosure when the _majority_ of the switches and knobs *are not* recreated. The Stream Decks don't count and you may as well toss the enclosure away and put the decks on your desk. It's clear you're coming from an arcade background.
Oh now come, it can’t be the WORST you’ve ever seen. What about the vents that actually blew air, surely you liked that?? (apologies if your name is Shirley).
Hi, I want to build a sim just like yours. Is there a way I can Dm you on either Facebook or Instagram? So I can tell you what I have and if you can help me?
I just started looking into MSFS and I stumbled across this. I love this setup I was looking at vr and 2dof but man the full cockpit looks sweet
Thanks!🤘
This is the perfect kind of sim in my opinion: Not too simple, not too complicated. Just a nice comfortable area that works out amazing. Awesome job!
Thanks man! That was my goal all along, just something that worked for my purposes. Yeah a 100% perfect to scale Longitude would've been cool, but for one it didn't match my skill set required to do that🤣and two, it would've taken MUCH long than this did... and I just wanted to fly!😁
@@skytation That’s the way to go!
@@polar_baer 🤘
That's sweet.... I'm looking forward to the flights. Your a cool dude. Glad your back in action.
Thanks man! I'm looking forward to them, too! 🤣
@@skytation how did you get such a clean install on the MFD and such? I've got an 11.5 inch instruments display but it looks kind of sloppy how it sets into that Flight Velocity panel.
So the search for the screens to use on the MFD/PFDs took a bit. I needed to find one not only the right size, but that also didn't have the connection ports on the side like about 95% of the ones typically do. I finally came across the ones you see in the video which had the connection ports in the back, which then allowed me to just an opening in the dash panel big enough to fit the back part that had all the connection ports on it, and then the bezel of the screen just rested up flush against dash panel.
@@skytation Thanks. That's what I needed. The ports on my screen are on the side. I'll try and find one with them on the back.
@@buckrodgers770 the ones I used are linked in the description of the part 1 video…
If you haven’t upgraded your glare shield yet I have a tip on a great solution. I’ve used whacky wood. It’s a thin plywood that actually can bend. I used it for an F/A18 glare shield.
Very cool, thanks for the tip 👍
Any technical videos you do will be VERY USEFUL and appreciated. I want to replicate this setup so badly... talking to my boss [wife].
Unfortunately didn't document any of this build, but I am getting ready to begin a series of videos documenting "project transformer" which will be this cockpit, only WAY better.... stay tuned!
Neat uses for the Streamdeck. For XP, I ended up building a custom Teensy controller for my desktop with all custom code to make multiple uses of buttons (video buried somewhere on my x-plane playlist on my channel). This would have been MUCH slicker!
Yep, I've mentioned many times when people ask why didn't you do a full scale exact replica Citation cockpit. Simple answer... I didn't want. For real, though, I wanted something that could go between different planes should I ever choose to, something that wouldn't take me years and years to build because I'd have to learn how to make and program all those buttons/switches/etc, and stream decks just turned out to be the perfect solution for me and my use case. It's not for everyone, but it definitely worked for me!
Yes 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉✈️. Love it
Thanks brother 🤘🏻
Pls make a vid explaining how u built it so that ppl trying to create it can follow along😊
Did I miss it? You didn't cover the 2 touchscreens! On the thumb nail it says 2 $60 touchscreens. I was curious what they are and how you set them up.
Thanks
It’s just one touchscreen, 3D printed bezel makes it look like 2!
So awesome, 100% buying a pro deck for my setup!
Rock on!🤘🏻
Wonderful sim once again!!!
How did you do the finishing on the windows & side walls. These look like they are molded. That gets to be expensive….
Nope, no molding. Just 1/2” MDF and a 3D printer. I designed the window opening/bezel in fusion 360 and that is all 3D printed. Then it’s just glued together and fit into the opening I cut in the 1/2” MDF that makes up the rest of the side panel. Filled the seams, sanded, painted 👍
I’m building a shared cockpit and I’m stuck in how to get the correct camera angles because I’m stuck on that the co pilot side is seeing what the pilot would see, I would appreciate if for part 3 you could include and show how u got the window views and front windshield views
Well, so what I had been using was the render window settings in the "experimental" tab in the settings page. However, after much trial and tribulation of trying to get it set up so the views appeared as realistic as possible, I've decided I may just try and stretch one main view across all 3 monitors. I'm trying this using nvidia surround in the nvidia control panel and just creating one MASSIVE monitor with my main and two side monitors. Initial tests this weekend were successful, it gave me the correct horizon angles I was wanting from all 3 monitors, but going to mess with it a bit more. Whatever I decide to end up going with I'll make a video on how I did it for you.
@@skytation thanks
I think I get 10240x1440 off my triple set up, same Samsung 49 + 2 G6 27''. Always comes out stretching on the side tho, kinda stumped on fixing that
@@skytation any update when the video is coming out on the tutorial
@@skytation This helps a lot. Myself I have been using the "stretch" for car racing and it is so far the best solution as well. The experimental tab .. ok, but not so accurate.
Hey men, what a video ! Verry Nice ! Do you think it will be possible to have the profile for the stream deck plus ? Thanks !
The sim is in pieces at the moment and so I can’t get to it on the computer. You have to use axis and ohs, and I think on his website he has a sample stream deck plus profile you can download to get started, that’s how I did mine. You also may try searching flightsim.to for stream deck plus profiles, there may be some out there.
Fantastic!! How do you set the knobs on the streamdeck + to zoom in and out on the map? Thats the main thing I would like to do with it
You have to find the event names (assuming you're using AAO) for those events. If you look on the working title discord server there's a lot of references on there to them.
Thanks for the second installment. :)
You bet!
Nice home cockpit! Great choice of aircraft. The WT G5000 implementation with GTC controllers is the future of home cockpits. IMO Simplifies everything to a couple of touchscreen monitors and still gives fexibility to change aircraft. In combination with an AFCS on touchscreen and a few other items one can fly mouse/keyboard free.
Well, that said, I am confused by the use of stream deck buttons for aircraft control. Why not use Air Manager, 3 monitors and 1 or 2 touchscreens below? There is a new complete panel for Citation Long by Sling coming out in AM 4.2. The stream deck route seems to be just another level of dependency which opens the door for more bugs. IMO one should be twisting and pushing buttons or icons that are a close proximity to the real thing.
Please take no offense. I guess this is what youtube comments section is for, right? Have been Using XP for 20 years building pits. Now using MSFS. Not affiliated. I use AM, Corsair Vengeance 4090 3 LG 32" 1440p, 2 Asus 21" Touchscreens for MFD/PFD/AFCS. Fly on VATSIM IFR in Longitude almost exclusively with minimal keyboard and mouse. Very immersive. Good luck
Honestly, I don't like AM, that's why I didn't use it. Just a personal preference really. Chose stream decks because I like the actual physical button push I got from it, not just the tap of a screen. I said numerous times when building this that I was not going for 100% scale realism, but simply just "what worked best for me." And when I saw the ability to incorporate stream decks into the cockpit (especially the stream deck + with its rotary knobs and stuff) it was a no brainer for me. Just like everything in flight sim, simply boiled down to personal preference. And aside from using the mouse to set up the flight, I have zero need for the mouse/keyboard from beginning to end of flight. Like you said, makes it very immersive.
@@skytation I am looking at getting the streamdeck +, can I ask if there is anything special I need to do to get the rotary knobs working for zoom in and out on the maps? This would make things so much simpler for me. Thank you
@@livelandings747 you have to make sure you’re running it all through something like AAO or spad. Whichever one you use will determine the event names you use for the knobs. I think spad has a discord server where you could find help for it, and I found the working title discord helped me a lot when trying to get mine to work with AAO. In the end it’s basically a lot of scouring the internet and message boards trying to find the exact functions you need.
This is giving me ideas!
Nice!
Amazing!!!
Thanks!✊
I think your sim looks awesome, but I do wonder if it would look better if the nose of the aircraft was scaled up to be visible to the pilot /user? Just curious 🤔
Yep, that would be cool, and was part of the original plan. As well as being able to see the wing tips out the back of the side windows. However, in order to fully remove the virtual cockpit from the views, I had to clip the camera forward far enough for that to happen which in turn meant the nose and wings were not able to be in view :(
If Asobo can perfect their "home cockpit view" which promises to leave the camera in the default position, but not render in any of the virtual cockpit, that would all be solved. But it's been several years now, and it hasn't come, not sure if it ever will.
Hi, I saw you have the 3d model parts somewhere to download/buy .. I cannot find the link, could you please direct me ? Thanks! Michal
Hi, what a setup!! Great job! I am wondering how you made the side bewelled panels?
So those were 3D printed... I touch on the process a bit in the part 1 video.
Very nice. How did you construct the interior (finished) side window panel surrounds that the monitors? Is it covered in fabric? Cool setup!
Main part of panel is 1/2” MDF. The bezel/opening of window I designed and 3D printed. I explain it a little more in the part 1 tour video.
Would you be willing to share the stream deck mounts for both stream decks? I went shopping using your Amazon links and realized that there’s no way to mount them :) I have a 3d printer so if you would share the files I can print it :)
Yeah i've been working on polishing up some of the stl files, and then I'll probably post them on my discord or something soon!
@@skytation awesome! I’m in the middle of a sim build and it would help to know how they attach so I can get that cut correctly. Thanks for doing that!
Bellissimo…how did you solve the problem that when you touch an AirManager panel, the simulator
audio disappears?
I don’t use air manager for any of it…
Hi! Amazing job!
How did you program the map range on the stream deck +? 15:28
Hey, here again because I've been inspired to create my own home cockpit! I dug up an old iPad Mini and was wanting to create a single GTC570 out of it. I've tried to use the MSFS popout panels, but I can't exactly setup the touchscreen on the iPad. Currently, if I press a button on the GTC, my cursor teleports over to the iPad screen and clicks it. In turn, for some reason, when my cursor is off the screen, none of my flight controls work. So, how'd you do it?
If you’re just using the native pop out functionality in MSFS it won’t work. It doesn’t support touch functionality. You need to use a program called Popout Panel Manager that’s on the flightsim.to site. Once you use it to pop out the screen there will be a checkbox for each popout screen where you can select whether or not it is a touchscreen.
@@skytation Thanks! Will try
@@skytation My last comment was removed because it had a link in it, but basically, I calibrated everything and it still doesn't work. I can send you a video via email if you like.
@@polar_baer if you want to jump over to the discord and post your video that would work best. Lots of other guys on there as well who may use iPads who can help troubleshoot. Link to the discord is in my channel banner.
@@skytation Will do
Are you running the Triple Screens on 1computer?
Yep, the entire cockpit runs on one PC.
Quick question. How did you create the custom views?
You mean the two side views? That’s using the multi window setting in MSFS. It’s under the experimental tab.
@@skytation thanks
how come you aren't using wireless headsets?
Reliability. I trust wired connections more, plus don’t need to worry about batteries.
You wouldn't happen to have a blueprint of the cockpit?
I do not. Working on completely revamping it right now, and I will have videos documenting that build, though! Stay tuned…
Did anyone ask yet? If not, I will ask, How much of an investment should one be looking at to build something sweet as this setup? Thanks in advance!
a m e n!!!!!!!!
🤘
lets her backside 😂😂😂🤣
How much did it cost??
Sorry, I get this question a lot, and honestly I didn't keep track. I do always preface it with the fact that I already had the PC, all the (main monitors), one set of flight controls, etc. So if someone is starting completely from scratch with none of that, then it definitely will be upwards of several thousands for sure.
@@skytation an estimated?
Dw I found your discord 😁
🤘🏻
OUTLETS BE LIKE :O :O
😂😂😂
Hey how much you paid for it?
All the stuff
Total cost for me was about $1500 when all said and done, but I had so much stuff already. One full set of flight controls, all the monitors needed for the exterior views, the PC, a good chunk of the wood/building materials…
Very goog
Hi! I pay you $100 usd in an amazon product if you help me to configure PFD/MFD Map Range and FMS/Man Speed button on the Stream Deck + 🙏🏼
Thank you!
Jesus loves us God bless everyone!!!!!!!!!!
Amen brother
This would have to be the worst cockpit ever. What's the point of an enclosure when the _majority_ of the switches and knobs *are not* recreated. The Stream Decks don't count and you may as well toss the enclosure away and put the decks on your desk. It's clear you're coming from an arcade background.
Oh now come, it can’t be the WORST you’ve ever seen. What about the vents that actually blew air, surely you liked that?? (apologies if your name is Shirley).
@@skytationsurely his name isn’t Shirley. If it is, I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue.
😂
Oh let’s see your flight sim rig then.
I guess your momma never taught you: "If you don't have something nice to say then don't say it!".
Hi, I want to build a sim just like yours. Is there a way I can Dm you on either Facebook or Instagram? So I can tell you what I have and if you can help me?
Info on this coming soon... keep any eye on the channel for announcements.
Amazing!
🙂