The WORST Cheater In Halo Speedrunning | How He Faked World Records And Got Caught
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
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Cody Miller was an icon in the Halo Community having multiple World Records, was recognized by Guinness book of world records, and played Halo 2 Legendary without dying. But when he appeared at Games Done Quick (AGDQ), the truth was close to coming out. He eventually got caught.
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50 bucks for 9 packs of ramen. A 2000% markup, and that's on sale.
Bigger scam than the Halo cheater.
Yeah fr idk what’s up with that.
@@anamethatisntjustthe6763 While I agree neither of us have tasted it... It certainly isn't Maruchan ramen but I can't imagine it being that much better than like shin ramen
Yea I can get 10 packs for $5 💀
Its also interesting how they are like this evidence then after say its inconclusive. When i look at the evidence shown in the video it doesnt seem like it was quite that condeming. The only "proof" is the radar that doesnt seem unusual it just looks like they moved the character and the radar acurately responded. And even if they did splice a part. Its stated he spliced put him hitting the load checkpoint button which seems pretty logical. For the part he did u needed to load checkpoint. That's really the only factual evidence provided"according to what was said in the video". In the video someone claims x or y but no hard evidence.
The "green" attached to this as a healthy alternative is just symbolic for cash. It's ramen.
Cody knew he was a cheater, so why did he think it would be a good idea to speedrun in front of a live audience? He was going to get caught eventually, but why make it so easy?
This is what I really can’t wrap my head around. Especially after that first GDQ went so horribly. So he agreed to do it again…?
He lived with the idea of "yeah I'm the best speed runner in this game" even though he knew he cheated, for so long, he eventually believed it and thought it would be easy to actually do the speed run
Repeat a lie often enough and you'll convince yourself it's the truth.
Probably a rock and a hard place problem. He would likely think if he took too long publicly he could say it was just too much and he didn't practice enough (the route he took, clearly). On the other hand if he just didn't take part at all in this event he might let some people down and just the fact that he wouldn't participate could raise some red flags that would be harder to explain or be less understandable.
Ego is a helluva drug
It's kind of hilarious that Bungie decided to give a strategy guide to players that have already mastered the game.
I imagine it was more as a collector's item. With a game as iconic and old as Halo, it's not hard to see such a thing as having value as a collectible, or at least as a piece of nostalgia.
@@benrichardson5662 not at all lol. You could buy those in stores
@@benrichardson5662 Same reason why giving an Xbox away to Xbox players was a deal. Although having a *second* console is something I think no one would reject.
Depends if this contains signatures from the devs or something.
Getting a prize can be more important than the value of the prize itself. Olympic gold medals aren’t solid gold, for example.
"I haven't practiced this game in like 2 years"
Not like he had an event coming up based around completing "this game" quickly.
I bought Star Wars Bounty Hunter since not having played it since 2003. I beat my previous speed run record from that year.
@@TatankaTaylor well there you go, 20 years ago. with age comes wisdom, plus u probably only played it a couple of times. this guy? thousands
Oh man, I cringed so hard when I saw him playing Infront of the other dudes, must've been so awkward and embarrassing
Oh yeah, definetly
I struggled to get through that 😂
Mf for sure.
'Can I just finish this later' made me want to die
@@BlackMoonHowls what’s the treat
A cheater being associated with Twin Galaxies? I am shocked
Why I never! *starts foaming at the mouth and seizing violently while angrily shouting something about Billy Mitchell*
@@Andrewbert109*and Todd rodgers
@@thevoicesgaming8883Todd Dodgers*
You absolute legend.
Todd Todgers is an absolute legend
Watching that "run" caused some of the worst second hand embarrassment I have ever felt.
Solid username 💀
Fremdschamen
No joke
Yeah dude
I remember the name "Cody Miller" in the 2008 Gamer World Records, got it at the scholastic book fair at school around the time. Halo 3 was super popular during this time since the game had been out for almost a year at that point, so I immediately went to the Halo section of that book and saw his name! Crazy that he turned out out be a cheater all these years later
Same with the King of Kong Billy Mitchill dude. Many many years of cheating and being at the top of records only to be caught red handed.
Literally same! I picked up that book at the 5th grade scholastic book fair and was a HUGE Halo fan so I immediately looked for the Halo records lol
Billy Mitchell 2.0
@@iami3rian394 careful you might get sued. Dude is a fucking lurker.
@@trapadvisor whats he gonna do, claim to be the king of Kong again?
"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing a group of speedrunners to sit through a normal run of Halo."
-Charles Baudelaire
god that sponsor is such a funny scam lmao $50 for 9 packs of instant ramen and that's on sale from $70?? LMAOOOO
seems like a proper price for something made with real ingredients
the scam is you eating cardboard and salt and thinking it's food just cause you only paid 60 or 80 cents for it
@@agnidas5816 dude you can buy a pound of real handmade noodles for like 2$. You're paying for branding.
@@agnidas5816 both are scams, the 80 cents and that retarded 70 bucks ramen
@@agnidas5816 LMAO wat. Instant ramen is hardly health food, but it's just made out of wheat and oil. It's as much food as any other kind of pasta.
@@agnidas5816 Crazy weirdo
thanks for including all these actual pictures of cody miller. i'm glad i was able to see his actual face up close so many times.
@@gabrielmirukaj7091 🤓
Nice sarcasm.
@@arup02 Nice sarcasm.
Nice sarcasm.@@DamienDarkside
yeah that guys face was a HORRIBLE editing choice
For a glitch that supposedly only happens 1/100 times I'm surprised no one else challenged this, for speed runners that kind of chance seems really generous especially compared to other stats that are so unforgiving it's almost not worth using
Yeah a 1% rate of success would make individual level runs pretty bad. For full game runs when it's on the last level it's virtually unusable.
@@dstreetz91 I mean there's other runners that play for hundreds of chances, to me a 1/100 doesn't seem so bad if you immediately retry to see if a trick is possible and in this specific case this trick is impossible so I'm assuming a different speed runner could easily spot if it's fake, especially if more than one try it on the same spot. If I was familiar with a game and I had a 1/100 change to pull of a never before seen trick I'd take it
I think that was meant to just be a relatively random estimate, not literally 1 out of 100.
@@rdizzy1 right but to me that makes it really suspicious
For speedrunners a 1/100 chance is actually insanely consistent. Look into some of the absolutely unhinged Goldeneye speedrun RNG and you'll see what I mean.
$50 for 9 ramen?? i think they missed the purpose of ramen noodles yeah?
U can tell how long ago this was because people still had faith in twin galaxies and treated their lists like they were legitimate.
He totally dodged the questions about cheating. Why did he even reply at that point? lol. I'm willing to bed he absolutely has a discord and all that but doesn't want it public which is fair.
Sick channel btw bro
He said "I'm totally old school" lmao.
what is a speedruning in gaming?
@@arisplugis5197 gotta go fast!
@@iwhbydbadbmotf8915 that is stupid. speed does not equal skill.
The stock footage of "Cody Miller" is hilarious
Sexy eyebrow man making eyes at me was a welcome if unexpected twist
Wdym stock footage, that’s him right there
@@ThommyofThennjust come out
"Not Actual Footage of Cody Miller "
Yeah I see no purpose for that only for laughs lol
I'm so happy that this is the Halo community.
"Bro, you cheated, lied, and betrayed all speed runners. Unacceptable. Wanna be friends?"
only a small section
yeah ... wanting to be friends with cheaters... .... you gotta be brain dead or you wanna learn how to cheat
I think all of us can forgive being immature, unfortunately it seems like Cody has yet to grow up.
@@vanguze why because he doesn’t want to be public? Weird
@@vanguze He is just in another arc of is life why bother thinking of the past
Goatrope and MrMonopoli are true O.G. Halo veterans, glad to see they were so willing to help the video come together. Good vid guys 🤙
I still watch mrmonopoli's speedrun he did live with people in halo 2 from years back as a way of counting down to the unlocking of any game im super hyped about
Love watching Goatrope's GDQ speedruns, listening to him commentate them is great
MrMonopoli is an awesome guy
Liked the video a lot, thanks!
Also, Cody seems like a guy who just „cheated casually“, because „it‘s just a video game“. And he realised way too late how big it got. Sort of like from „screenwatching“ in local split screen games to „Oh man, I‘m now the manager of the worlds speedrunning database, I hope no one notices my cheats“.
Remember the Legendary Donkey Kong World Record Cheater? That was decades before this guy had the idea to do it himself even if he didn't know that this was done before. So, he was not the first and definitely will not be the last to cheat their way to victory but, is it a real win if you cheated to get there? No, it is not. The bigger you are the harder the fall from "grace" becomes.
Reminds me of that Indian businessman who beat a previous world champion in chess by cheating and then claimed it wasn't a big deal
@@sub-harmonik hmm, I’m interested in this story. Tell us more.
@@cwp24 look up Vishwanathan Anand vs. Nikhil Kamath. It was an online game in a charity event
@@sub-harmonik also during a charity event?! That’s scummy, reminds me of a guy who showed a spliced run on GDQ of the game Metal Gear Rising and presented it as a real live run and pretended to be playing it live.
It’s a shame whenever that happens.
I watched his full four-hour run the other day…. Absolutely painful.
Your endurance is inspiring.
I was surprised he didn't say he needed to go to the wash room and then never came back...
I have trouble watching just the short clips in this video
You must be quite the masochist
It's brutal
Wow, I remember watching Cody live at AGDQ all those years ago. I just figured he was having a bad day, or that he never really tried a full speed run of Halo before and that Mike Uyama was desperate to pad out his marathon schedule. Didn’t realize Cody was up to no good.
, c
Awkward Games Done Quick.
@@ano_nym underrated response
The editing on this is done so WELL that even as an outsider to the community, I fully understood the situation in under 20seconds lmao
No it could have been much better. Barely gave any of the ACTUAL people that were there and involved in this situation time to speak. 10 second clips of Goatrope and Mono speaking, Could have gave them a little more time to explain it themselves and also give more details and context to some of the situations.
@@Born... I don't care about random people, I wanna see what happened, not get their opinions
Hey just a tip when you put a red bar along the bottom of the thumbnail it makes it look like I've already watched it at a glance
P.s. love you guys keep up the great work!
I really don’t understand why a UA-camr would make a red bar at the bottom of the thumbnail, it really does look like you already watched it at a glance.
me too
I have red bars all around, like a frame. Could it be it's cropped for you? Or did he change it by now?
@@janikd7948 We’re talking about that
Ive seen youtubers put fake bars in the thumbnail, that are like half way or a quarter there, like you didnt finish the video. Obviously its the super click-bait "recommended" videos that i would never give 5 seconds of my life to, but it is funny that they hope someone will see it and think "well let me finish that up"
If you watch the 2014 Goatrope speedrun, you can see how even with some terrible luck in multiple locations, his pace still doesn't suffer by much.
Makes the 2010 run seem even stranger.
I love these documentary type videos! Keep up the great work! 😊
That’s the whole reason i subbed two years ago
These videos are great! God bless 💓
At the end of the day whether Cody tried to be legit or Cody wanting to cheat, he literally robbed shit from legit speedrunners from items bungie provided to World Record books.
And he robbed selfconfidence-boost, what is psychologically important in that age of a male. To be the best in something give you lifelong rewards, when that certain thing fades into unimportantness.
@@AquaCoalaNest oh god cry me a river lmao. If youre identity HINGES on your world record level time in a game, you need to reevaluate yourself and what youre sending your time on.
@@LinkophereSo you just described why Cody did what he did. He is the most pathetic out of all of them. Like imagine being Cody, so pathetic that your only “achievement” is being good at a game so much so that you have to cheat to get there.
Huh, just realized that the same could be said about athletes. But they are praised. I don’t get it though. They really aren’t making any positive contribution to society like a doctor, nurse, paramedic, etc. do. Well that’s an entire different topic though.
@@Linkophere everyone is good at something! You should take proud at being the best in your profession. So If you were the top salesman at a car dealership! Yo wouldn’t want your notoriety? Ofc you would. Well gaming is there profession. Imagine if they choose another lower ranking member who’s less qualified for your position! You’ll feel cheated. Whether you like it or not these gamers spend thousand of hours that they can’t get back gaming. So yeah I’ll be pissed if a cheater can come in and claim & clout from what I know I actually deserved ! Anything you do in life, to be able to say you’re the best in the world ! Is a flex and an HUGE ego booster ! 😮😊
@@Linkophere An argument could be made for or against whether or not accolades are a worthwhile priority for anyone, but that isn't anyone's point here. Stealing is stealing, regardless of the value of what was stolen, and claiming and being rewarded for things you didn't achieve is, in fact, stealing.
there has to be a point where you would have actually tried to be good at the game you are a renowned player of
It sounds like he did. He seems like he was just an average at best speed runner but lied to put him in a category that he had no reason to compete in. Knew the tricks, knew the games, just wasn’t skilled enough to do them at an elite pace
Legend has it some day we'll finally have a real picture of Cody Miller
With a fake big smile.
I remember seeing his name in the Guinness world record book I bought in a book fair back in elementary school, didn’t know he was a cheater until now.
The biggest twist is not that he cheated and lied it was later proven, it's that the official listing in the book isn't even real either.
@@BlackMoonHowls
And it’s not as if they’ll reprint a record book from 15 years ago, so it’ll always be a falsehood in the gaming section.
@@True2ChainzLilWayne Yeah. Why GDQ is more professional now too, the "Halo Rule" another reason humans need warning labels on laser lights and military equipment labeled "Do Not Eat".
So was Billy Mitchell and Guiness just trusted Twin Galaxies without doing research. it's why i don't purchase guiness books or trust them anymore.
I'm not sure why Rocket Sloth called it the 'Halo rule' when basically everyone calls it the mercy kill where your time is too far over estimate and they have a limited timespan at the venue.
$250 still seems like a very low amount of money to complete Halo 2 on Legendary without dying lol
They’re lucky bungie even put up a bounty for it. Most game developers don’t have a cent of bounty for anything
@@pnoodl3s775Bungie weren't the ones who posted the bounty.
I imagine it's because videogame records probably weren't taken that seriously at the time and you can argue they still aren't taken seriously outside of a few exceptions like tetris finally being beaten by bluescuti or people actively involved in those communities will care.
Keep in mind, this was 2005. The perception around gaming was completely different then
Man. This is really awesome to get a documentary about this. I've always known about Cody and seen the famous GDQ footage many times, but never knew 90% of the information in this video. Amazing job guys.
My memory is horrible these days so I don't remember this guy but some of my favorite memories are learning the different speed running routes and tricks with people like The Tyrant, Naked Eli and RC master, I still remember discovering a trick to make the tip of the spear laso easier and submitting the footage to RC only to find out he had just come up with a better one ! Those were the good ol days that I don't think halo will ever be able to bring back.
"I don't remember anything about the subject so I'm just gonna talk about me, cause that's just as interesting....."
@@slothhouseproductions4231 ah yes, just because I couldn't remember anything bad to say about Cody that means I can't watch a 40 min video about speed running and have and share the memories that it brought back about that time of my life when I spent countless hours upon hours doing speed runs, laso runs and proudly getting to be a part of high speed halo and the mythic communities ,always wishing I could afford a capture card and dreaming of being on UA-cam with some of the greats but settling to be on their personal friends list and getting to play and share tips and tricks with them. And lamenting about how in my opinion the halo that I loved so much was gone. Yes how dare I. My bad , next time I'll make sure to message you directly to check and see if my comments are in line with your train of thought.......love the logic.
@@thats1fatgruntxbl lol
@@slothhouseproductions4231 You're a weirdo. His comment was perfectly fine.
@@jei3970 ❤
Cody Miller should get into stock footage modeling, seems like a perfect fit.
He looks like a toad man, though.
It's wild that he graciously retired and congratulated everyone, and then got caught later. It's really rare that a cheater isn't caught due to their ego having them trying to keep it going.
Right? Holy moly, does that seem to happen often.
Well splicing videos wasn't really viable anymore, so he kinda had to "retire."
@@pnut3844ableI know right?
How does a fraud “who was caught” retire?
@@pnut3844able what do you mean? Splicing speedruns was and still is incredibly popular amongst cheaters. I think it more likely he had a crisis of conscience and/or he grew out of it. It was never a career for him, it was just a fun hobby
Summoning Salt and Karl Jobst have peaked my fascination for speedrunning history and drama, and seeing that interest mixed in with Halo, one of my favourite franchises of all time, is definitely a treat. Great video, RS
Yeah this video seemed so much like something Karl would've done, would've been neat if this was a collab.
Rock and Stone!
@@jadedheartsz Yeah, this video was missing the "Hello, you absolute legends!"
@@79bigcat Honestly, anytime I see speedrun drama it feels wrong not to hear that.
@@jadedheartsz It would have been Legendary.
I didn't even know this Twin Galaxies challenge existed. Back in 2004/2005 i completed about 90% of Halo 2 Legendary with 0 deaths, all enemies cleared, no cheats, no sections skips.
So it was not a speedrun, but it was a proper deathless run. Only mission i did not complete was Regret, i was very close just needed to grab his chair and punch him one more time but his guards got me as i boarded the chair.
@@Drew-v2f what a weird place to leave your boomer comment lol
The message just keeps repeating “Regret Regret Regret”
@@Squilurple "Catchy. Any idea what it means?"
@@thecatthatgotaway how is suggesting getting some fresh air and taking a break from your phone a boomer comment?
@@daveyjones7391 "Dear humanity, we regret being alien bastards, we regret coming to Earth, and we most definitely regret that the Corps just blew up our raggedy-ass fleet!"
This is the gamer equivalent of not studying for your exam and crapping yourself in the middle of the test in front of everybody
I want a GarishGoblin history episode. No one can even challenge him in a full run, despite him having almost no "per-level" records.
Yes. I know nothing about his early time. I was big into Halo speedrunning before him, took a break, came back and he was already dominate.
He is not a world record holder anymore. Still, holding it for 6 consecutive years is unreal
Summoningsalt will do it eventually
@@Propane_Acccessories doubt it, he only does videos on games for infants
@@christopherrapczynski204 Go play DK Country. Do it fresh, without practice and tell me if you got a game over. Some of those SNES games will put hair on your chest. I'd personally have a better chance of beating Halo 2 on Legendary solo without dying more than 5 times
Bungie never forgot those speedrunning challenges. Some of those missions in destiny require you to go FAST
Yeah that’s just a normal thing 😂 but there aren’t leaderboards. Most campaigns for shooters I’ve played have included some time restricted missions
Such an interesting video, love the interviews and detail put into it! Learned a lot about the Halo speed run community that I had never known before.
Man seeing footage from 2011's AGDQ is nostalgia. Didn't watch Halo at the time but jeez. Least my run was only 5 minutes past estimate. 2 hours over? Should of mercy killed that one.
I teared up a little when seeing what Bungie sent GoatRope. Honestly, the amount of love from all parties have for each other is breathtaking. All these people at Bungie poured their hearts, minds, and time into making a beautiful game; the visuals, the story, the music, the coding, all of it coming together in a narrative that will stand the test of time. Then the players, who love the game and spend many, many hours enjoying the creation of such a wonderful world. Then on TOP of ALL of that, the love Bungie had for it's players, going outside the listed rewards and sending him a sealed game and a shirt for his efforts... it's honestly beautiful how much of a positive effect video games had on the world, or at least the communities that loved these titles. It's our generation's method of storytelling, and I will always be so thankful to have lived in that time period where I would wake up on a Saturday morning and grind out Halo 1 on Legendary with my brother on the couch, when we were barely 8-10 years old.
Why did you tear up? Because your a beta male because your apart of a braindead community that waste their lives chasing dumb ass meaningless records? Yeah man. The speedrunning community is really filled with dipshit losers like you.
You’re absolutely right. It sucks that gaming will never have this type of community again. This was back when video games were made by gamers and not money hungry monopolies looking to fill their wallets. Halo 1, 2 and 3 and amazing games. Hell even Reach was amazing. But halo unfortunately will never be like this again :(
I used to casually do some speedruns and had a few records on highspeedhalo.
I remember watching the GDQ with Cody Miller. I didn't think he was cheating, I just figured he was kind of a mediocre player that only had records because he was able to pull off the tricks which were too hard to pull off reliably to stream. And since he was representing the community just assumed everyone was like that and kind of lost all the respect for the Halo speedrun community
But after I saw Goatrope at GDQ he earned all the lost respect back. The skill and knowledge he showed was amazing.
I'm glad you included the nice socks comment at Cody's GDQ, it was the best part about that entire "speedrun".
@@DawnJones1997 Maybe you should look in the mirror. You sound pretty judgemental yourself
Speedrunning really has a come way. Hearing 13:30 describe "Halo 2 Legendary Deathless" for $150 as an impossible task and only a few days ago we get $20,000 to a man who finished Halo 2, All Skulls but Envy, Legendary, no deaths and is now practicing for the exact same thing + no shooting
I don't know if anybody would be interested in a wholesome Halo 2 story, but...
I was sophomore in college when Halo 2 released (because I'm an internet dinosaur). Spring semester that year I took a class called "Philosophy of Videogames" as one of my electives because it sounded interesting.
The class was taught by this really cool young (early 30s at the ABSOLUTE oldest, more likely late 20s) woman who was obviously familiar with videogames, but she wasn't as well-versed in some of the newest games. Like Halo. Or just FPS's in general, like myself (they're just not my cup of tea).
It was a night class. When a bunch of the guys in the class found out that the prof had never played Halo, they told her they'd fix that for her if she wanted. She accepted.
That's how we all spent the remainder of the last class of the semester after finishing our final playing Halo 2. A few of those guys brought their XBoxes to class with them, hooked one of them up to the in-class projector, and took the time to actually show/teach her how to play Halo 2. No gatekeeping or sexist bullshit at all, which was really nice to see.
I left a little after the normal ending time of 9:45, but they apparently stayed there for a couple more HOURS playing Halo with that Prof.
And I just find that really wholesome. 🙂
This is almost like Todd Rogers attempting 5.51 in front of a live audience
He actually did that and failed.
Cody was skilled... Just more at video editing than speed running
love the backing soundtrack created/used 💚💜💚
They've got a Spotify playlist!
He isn't skilled at video editing. He got caught splicing. If you want a good editor at splicing you should see Karl Jobst lol
Nah, not skilled at that either. He just did it back when it was way harder to detect and before anyone even bothered to check.
Pretty sure this is a joke folks...
@@TheBlackSpartan103 A bad joke...
17:40 the "not actual photo guy" of Cody miller is pretty funny especially because the face perfectly fits the description of a person who will do something like that🤣🤣🤣
I mean, failing a speed run after years of inactivity is understandable. Back in the day I had the AOTCR drop, and the hidden banshee on lock. I can’t do either to save my life these days.
He may have been a good speed runner, but editing footage is just sad, and demolishes any credibility he could ever have.
I'm glad you included the information about astro growing up to work for Hearthstone! It's so sweet to hear about someone growing up to work in the industry they love. I'm glad you had a wholesome conversation with him!
I'm really liking the long form commentary type content you guys are putting out. Keep it up!
The first part of the video where the halo speed run community was born was so wholesome and awesome I had no idea how cool
I wish every cheater would expose themselves in this way because I can't think of a more embarrassing, humiliating and cathartic way.
Imagine the lack of self-awareness and the ego it takes to convince yourself of being able to improvise a legitimate speedrun of a game you only ever beat quickly through cheating in front of a live audience, fail incredibly hard and then try to do it A SECOND TIME! * Chef's kiss *
"I spent money on this stupid stock footage of an Indian guy looking sultry so I'm gonna use it"
Dude. Vite ramen? $7 per SINGLE PACKET OF RAMEN??? It has the same nutrition as a single 25 cent package of Maruchan ramen plus a 2 cent multivitamin. WHUT? Now I eat ramen and I eat pretty expensive stuff at $2 per pack, but $7 is actually, literally insane. I can go to my local expensive Japanese restaurant or Korean restaurant and get lunch for less than that. (not dinner, that's like $40 but still)
I really liked this documentary regarding Halo history, Please make more of these! :)
I remember on the first level of halo CE when I was a kid I fell off the side and slid down to the end of the map. I wonder if anyone else found that hill cause I could never replicate it again after that
I knew this video would take that kind of turn. After all the evidence is presented, it’s just a “case of somebody lying on the internet.”
Mhm. And capital murder is just a case of “someone unexpectedly dying.”
Gimme a fucking break. Dude knew exactly what he was doing, tried to continue to push the lie when confronted with the hard evidence for WEEKS, and received actual money for his lie. And a fan base as well. But since he confessed (again, after weeks) and you directly reached out/spoke with him, he just made a dumb mistake, right?
Nope. Agreeing to play a live event in a game you know you’ve been cheating in, for charity?! He lost all my respect the instant he decided to do that. And then to continue lying for so long… gross. Mini Todd Rogers. I’d Todd ever admitted to cheating.
This video was everywhere… first you talked about a cheater then talked about the full history of speedrunning. Idk man i feel like this could have been 2 different vids
Imagine if the guy from the stock footage used to represent Cody Miller stumbles across this video and suddenly his face pops up on the screen
It seems like a strange move to play live in front of people knowing you would fail. Maybe he was delusional. It's like willfully making a fool of yourself.
I think so too. Cheaters actually think they are good at the game thou so i'm not surprised in any way.
I've only ever seen people talk about this "run" in hindsight, saying how obvious it is that he's a cheater and just bad at the game.
I appreciate the extra context, history and nuance you provided. I think the fact that he thought he could do this with seemingly so little preparation says something about his character, which obviously fits pretty well with him cheating records but I could still see someone with legitimate runs overestimating himself and doing something like this. On its own it's not really proof of anything.
I played Halo Reach leisurely on normal after not playing for 10 years since a child and finished it in about the same time he did while dying only a few times. This is not even slightly impressive. Obviously Halo 2 is not Halo Reach but he seems like someone who never played Halo before but watched some speed running videos.
Oh boy youtube is full of controversy this week
You got me dying with the cuts of Cody Miller bro 🤣
*not actually Cody Miller*
🤣😂😭😵
I don't get how his socks being black made everyone laugh so hard. they must have been looking for a way to break the awkward run.
As someone with very little knowledge of speed running this was a super cool story and intro. Love this kind of content!
I would recommend Karl Jobst as well. He is a speedrunner who also does commentary like this.
wow i remember the "going nowhere fast" contest
i didn't compete in it but I know some people who did
but any who, this documentary was awesome and I actually finished it
“I have not practiced this game in like 2 years”
Dont play it at GDQ then!
Great video dude! I loved the misleading jokes I laughed. Cheaters are often to embarrassed to respond to tough questions even tho they mislead people for YEARS and took away from legit runners
34:35 This is an interesting video for sure, but don't minimize what Cody Miller did as "just lying on the internet". Legitimate speedrunners are people who put a tremendous amount of time and effort into getting as good as they are at the games they play. Cheaters, take away attention from the real speedrunners by faking records, getting invented to big events like GDQ, and they steal the spots in official rankings and competitions with real prizes, including money prizes. The guy "held the record" for The Maw for 9 years. So basically, for 9 years, all the people playing the level legitimately and actually beating the real record (which nobody knows about because we thought Cody Miller had it), never got any kind of recognition for the time and work they put into the game.
Your entire recap is very interesting, though. It's great that you put this all together. Props!
Interesting stuff. Thanks for the video and the history. Also thanks for all the primers on speed runs. For any average HALO fan who hasn't done any speed-running, I'd recommend at least learn some of the tricks and out of map experiences involved -- they are fun and fascinating. I'm no speed-run star, but once I managed to slide through the door and smake that elite in the back on the silent cartographer, it was a fantastic feeling. The hammer skip in Reach was also a highlight. Sadly, I never managed to get the infamous cliff jump just right (though I got close), but ended up with all the time based achievements in all the games and had a lot of fun. The hammer skip in Cortana was probably one of the most frustrating ordeals in my entire life that I have only succeeded on once, but HALO Reach, already my favorite game at the time became even more fun not only from the speed-run stuff you share but also the achievement guides like finishing the jet-pack level without a jet-pack... WOW that took a while but what a sense of accomplishment. Thanks, again for your work sharing enough info for novices to dip our toes in the speed-run pool and get some of those rarer achievements.
You really gotta respect the detective skills of speedrunners.
Some of the most detail oriented and meticulous people on the planet. No surprise that they catch cheaters.
It took them over 10 years to catch him wym
@@Logan_93 Too bad none of that goes anywhere noteworthy.. heh heh....
Great video Rocket! Had heard of Cody but didn't know all the lore
This video should have been like a quarter of its length.
Great job guys! This was great. Appreciate all the effort you put into this.
I’m in that video with the falling mattresses!! It was a conference in which we broke the world record for longest row of human dominoes made with mattresses. The company was Aaron’s rentals. I think 2012 or 2013. I think this was in Chicago. Can’t remember. Been a minute
I would have assumed he had stage fright, or he was one of those people who's skill drop when being watched, or maybe his speedruns were leaning too much on luck instead of skill. Shame he's an actual cheater.
I couldn't speedrun these games (without seriously practicing) but I can't imagine getting lost even though I haven't played the games in years
I love how lowkey Dim is your lab rat for this kind of challenges. edit: I meant seeing how fast he could play through Halo CE legendary to compare it to Cody Miller's 4:20 run
The way you portrayed Cody Miller really reminds me of somebody I used to game with online; we played endgame content with a relatively high skill floor with respect to the rest of the game. They knew all the tricks, but they had absolutely terrible mechanics/execution. Even with every ingame advantage at their disposal they could barely perform a casual runthrough. That didn't stop them from going straight to trying to play with the very top speed players.
Like Cody this player cheated an achievement. This was nothing as prestigious as a speedrunning world record, but even so it was something that was respected within this community almost as a rite of passage to being a high level player; having it would put you above most players, and not having it would make you a nobody. Unlike Cody's spliced run, the legitimacy of this cheated achievement was blatant.
The strangest thing about this player is that they really acted like they knew better than players orders of magnitude better than themselves even though it was so obvious that they didn't. This player had wasted everybodies time, had no social awareness, and was a giant pain in the ass, so they were bullied out of the community. They spent a lot of time being looked down upon before they finally realized they were being a clown, and then left silently.
I think they did what they did out of a desire to be good at the game they loved and because they wanted to fit in, but failed on both ends. It makes me sad knowing that if they could just see things a little differently maybe we would've been friends. It may have only been a footnote in your video, but it meant a lot to me when you said Cody was still in contact with Goatrope. Goatrope did what I didn't do and all I can do now is hope that guy found happiness somewhere else.
What kind of game were you playing in which this happened?
Ohhhhh so he's not just a bad player, he's a damn cheater (came here from Frogarchist video "The Most Embarrassing Speedrun in Halo History")
oof that video showed how laughably horrible that run was
“If the Guinness book was up to date my name would not be in it because all those records were broken.”
“That’s awesome”
Wait no it’s not 😂
Cody had a golden opportunity at the end of your video, to show some regret, maybe impart some wisdom on the young gamers. But no, he chose the cowardly punk way out. No respect. Thanks for an awesome video Rocket!!
He clearly wants to put the event past him - he’s what, 10 years removed from the scandal and his apology. How would you feel if a random person from the internet emailed you asking about the time you got in a fight with a classmate in the 3rd grade?
This is a massive problem people on the internet can’t seem to understand; he’s probably apologized 100 different times over the past 10 years, you just haven’t seen them so you feel you deserve one personally. And it’s not fair - he should be able to apologize and move on, not get harassed for the rest of time for a series of shitty mistakes he made, especially when it’s a decade later
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 Go splice another cheat run, Cody Miller!
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 though considering he cheated for literally 13 years i think giving some closure would habe been nice
@@char1363holy shit did you even read the comment you responded to
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020gotta b Cody
I’ve never claimed to be any good at halo, but I know I beat Halo CE in about 4 to 5 hours on heroic when I was 10, I remember this because my mom seemed upset that I beat a new game she got me so quickly. So that says a lot about how good this guy actually is when it took him 4 and a half hours.
Your mom is weird. Did she think you couldn’t make it harder or replay it?
So only slightly better than a 10 year old?
@@Jesus-101 that’s not the thing one of the most difficult missions were in CE remember that one mission in the „jungle“ forest 🌳? Many players who wanted to join in on the halo games were terrified visiting it for the first time.
@@Jesus-101 I guess so. The point is the dude showed up to do a speed run of halo for charity and ended up completing it in what is probably an average amount of time for someone just playing the game normally.
It took me over 10 hours to beat CEA the first time
This video has a glaring inaccuracy.
3 6 0 S W A G is not "just for fun," it's a required tradition of any Halo CE speedrun.
(memes aside, it also it helps stabilize the Warthog, but also the video was actually great and a nice journey back through the years)
That ad was almost criminal, and if it could, it would cheat at speedrunning too.
I have every achievement for MCC. Even casually speedrun various Halo missions. And even have Goatroped and Monopolized.
But never would I ever lie and pull something like this.
Never ever claim to be something you’re not.
This is actually sad. Awkward and embarrassing.
Damn bro, how'd you get the laso ones
Omg every achievement gang
@@GothicHellhound Sweat, Cheeto dust, and sheer willpower
Alright, very interesting video. Love in depth lore like this but what's with the random shots of not Cody Miller dude? I swear I was doing a double take every time it popped up.
Cody Miller, Video Game Player of the Century.
Cody Miller vs. Billy Mitchell. A battle for the title and both are evenly matched.
Cody Miller, one of the Halo players of all time
16:04 😂😂😂😂😂 “not actual picture of Cody Miller”
The lack of comments regarding the "not actual photos" of Cody Miller here is alarming
Me, who hasn't played Halo since Reach: "how scandalous"
$250 for H2 legendary deathless in 2005 to $20,000 H2 LASO deathless in 2022. That's inflation for you. Funny how Twin Galaxies banned the use of the Envy skull too
28:10 *[not actual picture of Cody Miller again]*
What is this stock footage motif?
Imagine going to this fundraiser, and not going in planning on speedrunning in legendary
Rocket Sloth, I have never heard of Vite Ramen at all. They are NOT popular. I understand you need that money but damn, you made yourself look like more of a scammer than the Halo cheater, bro, gg. 👎
I should note that Cody never completely disappeared from the Halo community; he’s still semi-active on a certain storied Halo fan site that used to enjoy a close relationship with Bungie itself. Granted, said website is a half-zombie at this point, but he does still keep half an eye on Halo stuff, so at least his humiliation and 343 combined never completely killed his personal interest in the franchise.
Weirdly, I never really knew much about his speed running misadventures; I just mostly remember him as the guy who made that “Halo Reach is not canon” website (though I think he was still cool with it gameplay-wise).
I've livestreamed all Halo and Halo 2 missions deathless by themselves, but there's no way I'd do all of Halo 2 at once. Regret was NOT fun.
I remember being super active in those early forums. I’m always looking for myself when you post screenshots of them.
This is a much different style video than you guys normally make