Top 8 Exercises BETTER than PUSHUPS for Climbers
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2019
- In this episode we get rid of the idea that push ups are a cure all for climbing disorders and rather discuss some fantastic closed chain strengthening that can help prevent injuries and improve shoulder stability.
Exercises start at 2:17
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Jason Hooper, PT, DPT, OCS, CAFS
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As always, exercises are to be performed assuming your own risk and should not be done if you feel you are at risk for injury. See a medical professional if you have concerns before starting new exercises. - Спорт
I ate a bowl of pasta and a Cinnabon while watching this ! Haha can't wait to sit and watch it next
Tacos for me…mmm barbacoa
A completely underrated channel. Thank you for all of this!
Agreeed
Tried some of these out for the first time after watching - love the planks and shoulder/thigh taps. Definitely working some of these into my stretching/warm up routine.
Thanks! It's good to know all the variations on those exercises. Really makes you stronger.
Great content and fun! Thank you!
Good to know variations, thanks!
I think a bit of context is missing. I use push ups to train antagonist muscles, but it seems like these variations are targeting slightly different muscles. Can you please comment on this?
Push-ups with a strict and slow form (wrist at 90 degrees), and arms close to the body, was all I personally needed to fix pain issues in the lower part of bicep and the elbow. There is definitely a deviation in this video compared to the others on the channel in regards to explaining the WHY. It's a shame when you aren't able to figure out what you need to focus on, and are just given general exercises in the context of issues in the arm and shoulders. Really like this channel, but would love if they could swap out some of the jokes for more in-depth explanations.
To be fair, the majority of exercises he shows are horizontal pushing exercises, and will target the same muscles as push ups. Just a bit of shoulder stability and core tension to go along with it.
@@mattkessel36 Yes some of the exercises are similar in some ways, but none of them are replicating the dynamic movement you get in wrist and elbow when you do pushups in a certain way, which was exactly what I needed for what seemed like elbow tendonitits. The exercises provided here are probably great exercises, but they don't really have that much in common with push-ups, so I don't really understand why these are provided as alternatives for pushups. I certainly get the point that push-ups are overhyped, but when they're not addressing the core issues I think it will only lead to more confusion.
amazing vid bro!
The sound of those weights hitting the ground made me happy (3:59)
I'm not too sure these are a replacement for pushups, working fairly different muscles. My core is under worked and I think these exercises are good so it's not really criticism, just seems a bit like an unfair comparison.
The title says better for climbers, meaning more beneficial, also he explains it quite clearly in the intro.
@@Dave1507 Yeah, no. These are not replacements for push-ups, they may be complementary though. Push-up variants are arguably the best push exercises you can do without weights, and there really is no strength training without one of these. If you skip on push-ups/chest presses but still do stuff like face pulls, pull-ups etc., you risk uneven shoulder development (no anterior deltoid engagement) leading to potential shoulder injuries/pain.
Video is good, but the title is a clickbait and untrue.
awesome.. SUBSCRIBED!
Any risks of injury or downsides to doing this routine more than twice a week? Thanks! Loving your channel -- major resource as I just get back into bouldering/training after a decade away.
Great question! It really depends on what your other training is. If you're doing push ups and bench press 2x/week and then adding this in 2-3x/week it may be too much. If this is the only push training you're doing then it may not be an issue :)
The best way to know what works for you is to track how your body feels and how you're progressing with various frequencies of training (such as we just elucidated in our recent #Short)
Thanks! Would you recommend any of these for someone dealing with minor SIS pain?
Yeah definitely! Start with the lower end of the scale and work your way up while practicing appropriate load management. This type of cross training can build great closed chain stability and improve strength of the serratus anterior which we know helps with upward elevation of the shoulder blade.
dayumm dat form! while talking and with a belt! this guy..
How often should these exercises be done? Sets/reps? Rest time?
Good exercises but I would like to know your thoughts on implementing them into a training plan
The idea with this was more-so to give examples of other exercises you can implement into your training / cross training rather than just push ups. The sets/reps/rest time depend on your training goals as well. If you're working on endurance, you need higher reps. Hypertrophy, higher sets / volume and less rest. Etc. It's hard to lay out statements like "Do exactly this!" because everyone will have different goals and different training regiments. It's important to implement them based upon what you prefer.
Now, with that in mind, we will be working on more videos about how to properly integrate cross training with your rock climbing training so stay tuned!
@@HoopersBeta thanks for the reply! I look forward to seeing more 👍 personally I'm looking for shoulder strengthening just to reduce the risk of injury through climbing
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I don’t see how any of this remotely replaces a push up. How is any of that engaging your chest or triceps?
A lot of people religiously perform pushups after climbing as it is commonly believed to be a cure-all exercise for muscle imbalances you will get due to climbing. What he is saying is that a push up as it is normally performed won’t do this and strengthening the muscles that stabilise your shoulder is more important. All of this information is in the intro.
Love ya 🗻
Are you at the wall climbing gym? In north county San Diego?
Correct! :)
I keep thinking its going to a commercial when they switch to the green text screen😅
Nice exercises, but you dont got any pushing movment for your triceps only the endposition from the stabilation.
@Hooper's Beta
Is it closed chain if you're doing a pullup on a pull up bar?
I think so! :)
Yes, it is. It's open chain if you do the same movement with the lat machine
alot of people are confusing same muscles with some motion. I had preferred to see a lizard push up or something instead of the bodybuilding core basics 😅
But don't these work totally different muscle groups than push-ups? How could the last one work anything similar?
The plank position / taps definitely work similar muscles. Triceps, pecs, etc. The last one is different in some ways, yes, but keep in mind this is for exercises that are BETTER than pushups for climbers. Better doesn't have to mean the same muscle groups but better, it can also mean exercises that simply have a greater benefit.
I've really liked the rest of your videos so far, but this video is click-bate, and honestly calling these exercises "better" seems a bit like nonsense. they are neither better nor worse, they are completely different. whether they are better or not for some climber totally depends on that climber's weaknesses.
@@alexaverbuch1 agree the individual strengths and weaknesses need to be factored in
You want a challenge? Try a sphynx push-up.
So, are pushups bad for climbers...or just not as good as these other alternatives?
Not necessarily! I mean, if you're goal is to do 1000 push ups, that's definitely taking away from your climbing and could be bad... hah. But in general, these are just better alternatives because they have a greater range of benefits than just push ups.
I'm not quite understanding why these are "better" than pushups?
not much work on triceps here?, also if you push all the way through at end of each pushup you get the same effect as the dynamic plank. How is this a replacement for pushups? Shouldnt we be training our triceps to avoid getting tendonitis in our elbows? i think a full range pushup is a much better excercise than these plank variations. You get a lot more bang for the buck.
If you have been a couch potato all your life this is where you want to start. Secondly I never heard of push ups being good for climbing. Climbing is a pulling excercise and push up are a pushing excercise.
People say that because climbers train pull all day every day, you need to train the antagonist muscles like the chest and in the shoulder with exercises like pushups. Otherwise you become very prone to injury
It's called antagonist training, to prevent the climbers hump that comes from strong pulling muscles and neglected pushing muscles.
Push ups cure everything. Narrow chest, lack of gf, too much time, ...
Plank row is maybe the most useless exercise ever. It is impossible to keep the balance if you are rowing with any significant weight. And if you are not using challenging weight, whats the point? Like rowing 6kg dumbells is going to do anything for me if I could row 35kgs in a better position.
ps. Pushups are golden and this video just misses the point by so many ways
Because it's not about the row, it's about body tension and balance, that you just said you can't keep, there you go, that's the point
@@DegsyS101 I mean sure you can keep the balance if you just keep twisting, but what is the point of this exercise? You really think this is a good way to improve tension or balance? It just isnt
@@Mylada do you climb? Climbers are prone to shoulder injury and these exercises improve shoulder stability (of the opposite shoulder). If you're twisting you're doing it wrong. Maybe you should post a video to back up your claim.
@@DegsyS101 Yes. Okay, my point is that if you are looking to improve shoulder stability you must improve the muscles surrounding the shoulder joint (such as pecs, delts, lats, upper back muscles, and the rotator cuff). This means making those muscles stronger, bigger, and able to handle longer ranges of motion. In plank rows, the bottom range of motion is limited by the floor and the top by the position you are in. Also, the amount of weight you are able to use is limited because it is impossible to keep the balance while rowing half of your bodyweight no matter how good you are. It is just impossible. Thus you are forced to use too little weight which leads to no strength or muscle mass gains and you are not even able to work a big range of motion, so I am very skeptical whether this exercise actually does anything (unless you are a complete beginner). There are just many other exercises that do the job better so why pick the inferior one.
or maybe it's you who missed the point.
Maybe make one video similar but without weights, that helps with tendon issues in the bicep, elbow and forearm :)