@@WaukeePaintballer I was going to ask how anyone would cook anything in London with blunted knives but from what I've heard about British food that might be no big loss.
This feels more like a 'Think about the kids' legislation where it's used as an excuse in order to stop something else they actually want to stop and in this case likely making it harder for people to create their own replacement parts companies would prefer you either bought from them or couldn't obtain in the first place so they forced you to buy a fully new product.
Hadn't thought about the possibility of companies wanting to more generally prevent you from creating replacement parts. That's a real point, I've done this myself.
Being from New York, it is 100% about the guns. They HATE the second amendment and take absolutely any opportunity to strip it away they can. This is just yet another stupld way they're doing it.
@@kaijuultimax9407 it seems like voter base pandering. Which is weird because a democrat in new york could announce they're establishing the 3rd reich and STILL win by a landslide. Could be a distraction to hide a massive fuckup
As someone who got a 3d printer mostly to do 3d2a "stuff", I can tell you there's a huge community around designing "stuff". And a lot of it has gotten really sophisticated. I'm always amazed how smart some of these people are, not to mention they're always ahead of the game. Also, since it's legal in a lot of the US, there's a ton of business's popping up that cater to 3d printed needs. It's definitely a case of the cat being out of the bag. They really should just focus on dealing with actual criminals doing crime vs casting a wider net and turning previously law abiding citizens into criminals.
Also as they pointed out, if it's banned in NY, you could just drive over to New Jersey and buy a printer there instead. This also works for other stuff like guns and booze.
@@SudoYETIthat actually is illegal to do with guns. Out of state transfers have to go through an FFL according to federal law. 3d printers won't have that federal legislation backing it. Alcohol is legal to transport across states legally, as long as you don't sell it without paying the proper taxes. So you're mostly right, but guns were a bad example.
I don't care what anyone has to say, "It's got all kinds of instructions for how to do things with fuel, so I used Gaslighting." was legitimately a banger of a line that not even a pro comedian could have come up with on the spot like that.
In the Computer Build with my Sister episode, we found out that Linus caused an explosion in the boys' restroom at school by igniting hairspray... so he might be taking it all very literally.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is meant to be anti-right to repair. 3D printers let you print replacement parts, allowing you to repair something. Obviously, banning them outright would be impossible, but limiting them, even a small bit, is still a success in their eyes.
Absolutely it is. But also 3D printing is precursor technology for the eventual production of prosthetics. And the medical industrial complex simply can't have you making prosthetics for 12.99 when they want you buying theirs for $63,474.64 before interest.
If I remember correctly that list of banned firearms actually had an AirSoft rifle on it because they didn't realize it was just a "toy" because it looked like an M4. They just saw the picture, wrote down the name, and went to the next picture.
Wouldn't surprise me... There's a guy in Australia who realized that his single-shot Nerf pistol met the legal requirements for a firearm and went through the trouble of registering it with a serial number just to show how stupid their gun laws are. Also the ATF in the US tried claiming that airsoft weapons could be "readily converted" into real weapons and that a shoelace can be considered a machinegun. It is truly incredible how stupid some of these laws and opinions are
Every gun list of what is banned is “it scares me” look at ar-15 compared to a mini-14. Literally the same gun as far as how it works, just one is black and plastic.
@@ryanhamstra49 It's like the /k/ meme of the same Remington hunting rifle done in wood vs. tacticooled black with rails and gadgets. One is "Aw, what a cute varmint gun. My grandpa had one of those", the other is "No one outside the army needs a weapon of war!" (edit: Remington, not Ruger)
@@harbl99 I have a better example. The Sutherland Springs Church shooting doesn't get much reporting. This is because not only was it stopped by a good guy with a gun the man was an NRA firearms instructor. The media can not report that not only a good guy with a gun but an NRA instructor stopped a mass shooting. In the little reporting of the shooting the shooters fire arm was labeled as an ar15 and the good guy with a gun stopped him with a hunting rifle. The hunting rifle was also an ar15. They then began to claim he didn't stop the shooting, even though victims' who survived said the shooter was standing above them setting up the kill shot on them when their savvier began shooting at the shooter, pulling his attention off of them and saving their lives. The shooter also had notes of multiple of targets and when he fled the seen he was heading to another church. This shooting is ignored by gun control activists because it disproves all of their claims.
@@Clone895 And yet, ATF havent made sure to ban something like a flintlock pistol or a cannon (Like on a ship from the age of sail) because reasons. I would argue that they are firearms as well. Heck after the Shinzo Abe assassination, then there had been a youtuber (Or someone on youtube rather. Not sure if we can call him youtuber) that has paper on to be able to make firearm, was able to make the same type of firearm used in the assassination. All with things that could be brought from a hardware store. Even the "gun powder" itself. I dont think the video is up, but it just shows that everyone can make a weapon out of something
The gun used to kill Abe actually used an electronic ignition system. Since it was a muzzle loader design, no firing pin is needed. I've also saw on FW a recovered gun that some criminal in Africa iirc (poachers i think?) made, it was a muzzle loading hand gun where a spent 50 BMG shell was the barrel, and they even use crushed up match heads as the powder. If people want to make a gun, they are going to make a gun. It is completely infeasible to try and completely stop it. The list of things you would have to ban would be immeasurable
I live in NY and bought two new 3d printers just because they threatened to give me a hard time about buying one. I completely agree that this form of legislation brings nothing but bad PR.
They don't care about PR, they care about putting in their rules designed to take away your freedoms, autonomy, or independence. They're only 1-2 generations away from nobody realizing there was a world where none of this was even remotely thinkable. UNLESS you fight against it AND tell your children why it's important and why they should too. Not doing that second part is them playing "the long game" and eventually winning. Oh and if you're not having children you should. They aren't because they're worried about "climate," which means your kids will replace them AND grow up to replace their policies too.... if you teach them right.
One of the reasons I left NY was some of their wild out of touch laws. Knives were ridiculously regulated and you have to show ID for whipped cream. I’m a 2A supported and this is bonkers.
@@TheMsdos25 They banned canisters of Nitrous Oxide from being sold to people under 21, not the cream itself. It just so happens that cans of whipped cream also very technically count as canisters of n2o, even if you can't get high on it. Some places interpreted it as banning of whipped cream dispensers. When law makers realised it was going on they got pissed and made clarifications to the law to fix that. It's less a tale of goverment overreach in controlling population and more in how innefective the burocracy in NY is.
It's hilarious because the overlap between 3D2A (folks who 3D print guns) and street thug (the people who keep the crime stats of NY high) is LITERALLY 0 and because of ATF regulations, 3D printed parts can be qualified as "firearms" and so when voluntary buy-back events take place, there's always a chad who goes with 3D printed parts that are legally a firearm and exploits that IRL infinite money glitch with parts that are like, less than 1/10 of a gun (no trigger, no hammer, no firing pin, no barrel, no bolt)
There was a guy that went to Homedepot can got the materials to build a home-made firearms and sold them to the state in a "gun buy back", it cost him about $30 in materials and about 1 hours of labor to craft a crude but functioning firearm using a snap-gun method and the state bought them back for $300/each. The funny part of the story is this, After he showed up on the 2nd day of the buy back with more homemade firearms the police threaten to turn him in to the ATF for illegal firearms production. His argument was he is producing them for private use and the only people to buy them are the police.
@Iosifavich I mean, that guy has a point. Technically, you can make almost anything so long as it's for personal use. Once you get to the point of sales, that's where you can get into trouble.
@@Iosifavich I'm not an attorney, not in my country, nor in America but I think the Heller Supreme Court decision made it legal for you to make your own firearm provided it's not an unauthorized NFA item, so an automatic or with a suppressor. "Unauthorized" becuase you can get licenses to make automatics like most gunsmithing companies do. So this guy should have cited Heller to them, but then again, it's a legal battle of "infinite money goverment" vs "el bozo McBozovich"
@@Hellsparkt 3D printed, plastic filament only, no. C&C precision machined ones + 3DP? Some people have reported making some with hundred thousand rounds through them with virtually no malfunctions.
I own 67 guns, and I own a 3D printer. It's a lot harder than people make it out to be. You need steel parts. It'd be far easier for me to go buy some pipe from the hardware store and build a $20 slamfire shotgun, than a working 3D printed gun.
Dont forget a lot of democrat run areas ban BODY ARMOR. Literally something that protects you and causes no harm and they want you to not be able to have it
Under no pretext should this be done. The cobra effect comes to mind too, “I have to wait to buy these because a gun could be printed?……I can print a gun?….. ima print one” like tf
Honestly reminds me of the story of my friend who went into a shop to buy children's craft glue. The glue is sold here as being safe for very young kids to use and is used in schools. Issue was my friend did not take ID with them. Hence she could not buy it since she could not prove she was older than 16, even though she obviously looked not only over 16 but old enough to have older kids herself. So yeah a product which is aimed to be given to kids to use cannot be bought unless you have ID proving you are an adult due to laws saying glue can only be bought by people over 16. I can see the same principle applying here.
You can make a gun out of $3 worth of pipes and a nail. The hardest part to obtain is the shotgun cartridge. There was a guy who built dozens of them and handed them in to a police gun amnesty where they gave a $30 gift card for every gun donated.
You can 3d print that or literally use a dollar bill. Shotgun cartridges used to be made of paper A dollar bill with quarters turns it into a slug. Not difficult in the slightest.
@@CajunReaper95 either way it's harder to obtain that a piece of pipe and a nail. Even if you live somewhere that sells gunpowder in gallon jugs, it's still the hardest part to obtain in a homemade shotgun, not the pipes, not the nail and definitely not the paper coating.
@@nightcitycrafts I remember when that used to be a literal meme. I used to hear this all the time. "Do you _really_ think that we will have 'knife control' if guns are banned? No one would support that. Guns are weapons of war, but knives have multiple purposes. No one is coming for your guns, and no one is coming for your knives." Well well well... How the turn tables
The first time I saw a machine that turns plastic into filament was to reuse support material of 3D printed objects. That way nothing gets wasted. Seeing junk turned into 3D printed stuff fills me with great joy.
They ban 3D printers and next thing you know people will start building those pipe shotguns like that One guy across the pond. And it was way stronger than anything you can make 3D printing that's for sure. If we continue with this logic home Depot will be running background checks on everybody buying timber
@@WhatAboutRC sorry I was getting ahead of myself. First they're going to start running checks for them and next thing you know some states will just outright ban them in their state
@@jmacd8817 It didnt at all... I can agree with you while still pointing out you need to say the correct thing. But sure yea. whatever you need to say rather than just saying "my bad".
>Who is lobbying for this stuff? It's literally Michael Bloomberg, he basically personally bankrolls all the inane, illogical gun law lobbying. It's to the point honestly he is doing more harm to his cause than good because of how legally questionable the laws that result are.
Yeah, I don't get why people don't understand that being a shitty democrat makes republicans look good and being a shitty republican makes democrats look good. People need to start criticizing bad actors on their side of the isle that hurt their cause and make them look like clowns.
Look at Luty. In the UK out of protest he designed a sub machine gun that you could build with ordinary hardware components and basic tools and ability. The weapon is pretty effective (there’s a few videos on UA-cam demonstrating them). The UK government however persecuted the heck out of him.
They already tried to stop certain things from 3D printing by the slicers recognizing the shape of the item and not turning on the extruder. 1 line of code changed and it was bypassed
That crossing the state line part is so true. Growing up in Iowa I remember crossing the border to Missouri to buy fireworks around the fourth of July due to sale restrictions in Iowa. There are fireworks stands right at the border, it's not even a pull a tarp over them issue, the state trooper sitting at the border the catch speeders for the highway speed limit change, watches you buy them and bring them back because it's a sale restriction and not a possession restriction, and that's literal explosives, not very powerful but still.
2:45 A proper crossbow is actually really good at beating soft body armor. Outside of the US I can't be certain. But inside of the US most law enforcement wear soft body armor. Unless they are something like swat, they are going to have more than likely soft body armor which will easily be penetrated by a compound bow or a crossbow. This is not assassination advice.
@@j100j I simply have information what you choose to do is your own business. Do not mind me slowly sliding the locations of ATF field offices towards you.
Let's not forget that with most newer 3D printers, it's becoming increasingly common for them not to connect to a computer and you have to use a USB stick to transfer files to the printer. The only REAL way to safeguard the children is to also require a background check to buy or posses a USB flashdrive.
I'm 💯 in favor of anyone wanting to buy a 3D printer having to first complete an Anger Management seminar. Because _goddamn_ those coping skills will come in handy when a knot in your filament spool borks your print in Hour 95 of a four-day print.
3d printers popularized because all of the sudden you could build one with scraps on your backyard. Good luck enforcing background checks for copper wires and steel rods.
Next they'll be trying to control the parts you would need to build a Voron. The hoops you'll have to jump through just to print your D&D terrain and minis in the future will be wild.
The thing with 3D-printing guns is, that it's perceived as easy and accessible. It obviously isn't just downloading a file and printing it, but the lawmakers don't get that. By the time you've sanded, finished, built and reinforced it (including all extra parts you basically need), you've spent more time and craftsmanship to create a worse product, than with any other method. And you're probably blow off your own hand by the 4th shot. (So way before you could hurt anyone) Oh yeah, you of course still need to get your hands on bullets too...
I like to see people who've never looked into the 3d2a community talk like they know what's up. Sure there's lots of work to have a good printer setup but once it's dialed in you can easily hit print and have minimal post processing. Then assemble the firearm and you're off to the races with the ability to go 100's to 1000's of rounds
@@lawtubeclips9670I know right? It’s wild how so many people still think that the Liberator is still the be-all and end-all of 3DP guns. The FGC-9 was released back in 2020, and even it’s considered somewhat passé today.
@@lawtubeclips9670Can we take a second to appreciate how Linus called them "2FA" die-hards? Like, I can't remember whether Luke has taken a stand on Yubikeys or TOTP-based authenticators, but it doesn't really seem germane to the current discussion.
By this logic you should need a background check for buying metal pipe and a bastard file, which could be used to make a really simple slamfire shotgun easily. EDIT: Posted before I finished the video, I'm glad they mentioned this hahaha
The title made me raise an eyebrow. If 3D printers become illegal, or restricted, I'll gladly join up with any group that wants to openly defy the law.
Anyone who has ever used a 3D printer or even seen a 3D printed part knows this is the dumbest thing. 3D printed plastic delaminates when the weather changes, let alone handling the 50,000psi created by smokeless powder
Yeah exactly. I mean I'm all for gun control legislations, but it has to make sense and be sensible. This here ain't it, I have no idea what it is they think they're gonna accomplish with that boneheaded of a law.
@@urg6923 It really gives "we're going to solve global warming by dumping an ice cube into the ocean" vibes. Literal orders of magnitude off in their "calculations"
Like Linus said, a 3D printed gun won't be as effective as a regular gun that does not mean it cannot be done, also, with regular consumer grade 3D printers you could probably make something that could fire probably somewhere between 20 to 50 22 shorts which are absolutely capable of killing people
As somebody who is in this field this is a really level headed take that i really appreciate. In other news 3D printed firearms might have made more progress than anybody would have expected in the last 5 years and are actually pretty competent these days.
You can build a 3d printer from off the shelf parts that you can find in any hardware and electronics store, even if they completely banned printers they could still be easily made by anyone with any experience building them.
This law shows just how dumb legislators are. Everyone should be able to buy a 3D Printer. People that print illegal things on their printer should be held accountable.
"it's got all kinds of instructions on how to do things with fuel, I used gaslighting" absolutely dead. Something you could become if you follow instructions from the "anarchist cookbook". But also in all seriousness there have been books printed on how to make guns with a trip to the hardware store long before the invention of 3D printers, Philip Luty is rolling in his grave RN. Aside from that making your own guns in the states is legal so far as the completed firearm doesn't run afoul of some other law; i.e. you can't legally make a machine gun without the proper licensing because machineguns made after 1986 aren't legal for the general population to own, but a shotgun rifle or pistol are fair game so long as they comply with all other federal state and local laws.
Better ban drill presses, lathes, any form of CNC machinery, simple household nails, any type of steel piping, compost bins, charcoal, basically any household cleaner, and almost every form of garden fertilizer as well... They're all much more practical and much more dangerous than a 3D printer. Especially the fertilizer.
I love that you can print and upgrade an existing gun but can't really make one to last. Print a scope adaptor so a scope you like works with your gun, or a grip or fast mag swap. Like you guys said it is hard to print a gun to last because they just can't take the stress.
You can terminate someone with their own hands, Are they gonna ban hands? Typical for that side of the line... always going after the symptom and not the cause.
FGC 9 is an example of a relatively complex, repeating 9mm carbine made from only 3D printed parts, hardware store components, and if you want to take the easy route, unregulated firearms parts for the trigger pack, but they can be replaced with handmade parts too.
This could completely kill 3D printing in New York state. Stores would just stop selling them and online retailers would stop shipping to New York. But by this logic, we need to ban milling machines, lathes, steel pipe, etc.. Also, when printed correctly, a 3D printed Glock 19 Gen 3 can last well over 1000 rounds.
I want to see them require a background check to buy plumbing parts. With a few basic machine tools, it’s not hard to make a full-auto, open bolt machine gun.
@@jungletek If we can crack solid-state battery tech, which seems to be coming pretty soon, railguns and coilguns might become more than an experimental curiosity. And good luck regulating those, they have less moving parts than a firearm.
in 2016 I trained for security work here in germany, so a bit before the 3d printing rage. "hidden weapons" were an topic too. there were people appariently who build one shot "guns" in cigarette packages decades ago and appariently it ain't even that hard. if people want to build their own guns, they will do it, 3d printing or not.
@@Jake-bt3fc I very much prefer it, when they don't hide them - this way there are no evil suprises and i can (from an "Im at work"-perspectvie) just call the cops on them for illegaly carryeng a weapon. again, germany. so guns are very rare and highly illegal to just carry around with you willy-nilly when you want to buy some gas or something
@@Callsign_Sturm Concealed carry is the only sensible option unless you intentionally want to be conspicuous and draw attention to yourself and make yourself the obvious first target of the bad guy who is always going to get the drop on you because you're carrying for self defense and he's attacking.
Here’s the thing get the printers that can print the gun right are just as much as getting a gun at the black market and so criminals would do that not putting in the work to get it working right when they can get a real one instead and the reason why they want to ban printed guns is because of ghost guns but 98% of ghost guns are gun that don’t have a serial number and that’s what we should be worried about not printed guns that explode or miss fire or jam on your first 100 shots until you figure out your settings to make it able to shot a couple shots in a row
It's frustrating to see how politicians can completely miss the mark when it comes to addressing real issues. Requiring background checks for 3D printer purchases is definitely not going to help at all with the gun problem, given that those with malicious intent can easily access firearms through more cost-effective means than acquiring a 3D printer and materials. It's not only a clear example of politicians failing to grasp the actual problems at hand, but it also feels like they are putting forth proposals just to give the appearance of taking action while they're in reality, playing around in office and collecting paychecks without making any substantial impact on the issues
Fun fact about the ban on hunting rifles they mentioned is that Laser Guider Anti Tank missiles are listed as well. Our government actually thought that ATGM's were legal.
As an American, I'll apologize for us letting our elected officials rewrite laws drastically in their own favor. I.e.: term limits, compensation, etc., etc. ...
This is just people in power trying to limit the scope of competition. The people who can't get normal jobs because of prejudice could use 3d printers to make goods to sell, and this move is against that happening.
The irony is that there are at least two microcenters in New York iirc. One is in Yonkers, and the other is in Manhattan. Both are brick n mortar shop havens for 3D printing.
That is an interesting one it does seem they are picking and choosing what they considered a weapon and what is not. If that is the case anyone with a camera with or without video capability and access to editing software can be considered a weapon too.🤔 I know it’s a reach but some think that misinformation can be a threat too using this tools.
@@shadow105720 I mean the state does a good job of protecting Epstein's clients, so you might be good. If you put a naughty piece of plastic on your gun however....
My opposition to this kind of law is simple: it assumes from the start that all citizens are potential criminals, and they have to prove themselves to the authorities. Morally, it's something I can never stomach, and unfortunately this thought procesd is the basis for a lot of laws out there. As far as to who might lobby for this, I can point out at firearm manufacturers. They certainly aren't pleased at the perspective of people potentally making their own guns fast and easy. Of course it's funny considering how far away we are from making viable guns, but the potential is there.
Just want to point out that _murder_ is already illegal. Just in case anyone wasn't quite aware of that little tidbit of information. Killing another person = big no-no. So..... any additional laws that outlaw murdering people in specific ways or with specific tools is completely and utterly redundant.
Technically speaking, styrofoam and gasoline alone doesn't actually make nalpalm. It burns really well though. There is a component that is added to the mixture, but it isn't well known.
I keep seeing this being reported as if its a law thats likely to be passed and supported by a lot of lawmakers. From further reading this seems to be written and backed by a single representative. It seems unlikely it would ever get passed.
For anyone interested; Get the printer now. These people are crazy and will ban anything to strip you of your basic human right to protect yourself. I would go one step further; buy everything you need to protect yourself today rather than tomorrow.
To answer the question of who lobbied for this: no one. This is a result of American politics. Basically because New York City is pretty much only democratic, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, the politicians need issues to use as campaign ads. In order to make themselves seem like they are making a difference they must have issues they promote and because they are democrat is had to be something like this. Because of our two party system, things in America usually only go in the direction of more radical even if it means more stupidity. Might be hard to understand when your not from our terrible political system. Hope this helps!!
This just emphasizes the absurdity with banning and background checks on firearms in general. Some people are just grasping at anything they can to impact the ability for people to get them.
The Next Layer (youtube & podcast) had a really good coverage of this. Basically at this stage, it's non-trivial to make, but the tools are now a CHEAP printer, basic filament, and stuff from the local hardware store.
Welcome to states with strict gun laws in US. Make laws that are the most restrictive and annoying to everyday law abiding while doing least possible to stop gun crime
2:18 The entire argument of gun control. People who want guns will have them. It doesn't matter if they're smuggled OEM, 3D printed, made in a machine shop, or completely homemade with hand tools. The genie can't be put back in the bottle at this point.
By that logic we should also ban any tool
@@boosted_n ban hands then!!
Now you are thinking like a politician.
Soooo government employees, they are tools aren't they?
There was talk of blunting all the kitchen knives in London UK to prevent stabbings a few years ago
@@WaukeePaintballer I was going to ask how anyone would cook anything in London with blunted knives but from what I've heard about British food that might be no big loss.
It only gets more ridiculous when you realize 3d printers can be built with off the shelf parts…
Watch them start requiring background checks just to enter any hardware store
careful, one day you'll need a background check for quite literally everything aside from getting into and living in this country(usa)
@@Nexalian_Gamersshhh don't give them any ideas...😂
Well, let’s ban shelves then… 😂
Thank god for open source
This feels more like a 'Think about the kids' legislation where it's used as an excuse in order to stop something else they actually want to stop and in this case likely making it harder for people to create their own replacement parts companies would prefer you either bought from them or couldn't obtain in the first place so they forced you to buy a fully new product.
Hadn't thought about the possibility of companies wanting to more generally prevent you from creating replacement parts. That's a real point, I've done this myself.
If it were a federal legislation, sure, I could see that. But this is just New York being weird again.
Being from New York, it is 100% about the guns. They HATE the second amendment and take absolutely any opportunity to strip it away they can. This is just yet another stupld way they're doing it.
@@kaijuultimax9407 it seems like voter base pandering. Which is weird because a democrat in new york could announce they're establishing the 3rd reich and STILL win by a landslide. Could be a distraction to hide a massive fuckup
It's out of touch boomers legislating technology they don't understand, as they have done for decades.
I love how Linus is so engrained in the tech world that he accidentally said 2FA instead of 2A lol
I thought a very similar thing, and it's funny that neither of them caught it.
2nd Famendment
I thought Americans always said it in full length. Never ever heard of 2A. Is that a video game company? Lol.
Nah he said it right. It’s not the second amendment. It’s “THE FUCKING SECOND AMENDMENT “
Reminder that you can go to a hardware store and get everything you need to make a fully automatic machine gun.
Thanks Mr. Lutty 👍
i belive his name is Luty
@@RipleySawzennice try fed boi
Based
The luty sucks, fgc9 is a better gun in every way.
And that handheld concrete framing nailers use .22 cal blanks to drive nails multiple inches into concrete.
As someone who got a 3d printer mostly to do 3d2a "stuff", I can tell you there's a huge community around designing "stuff". And a lot of it has gotten really sophisticated. I'm always amazed how smart some of these people are, not to mention they're always ahead of the game. Also, since it's legal in a lot of the US, there's a ton of business's popping up that cater to 3d printed needs.
It's definitely a case of the cat being out of the bag. They really should just focus on dealing with actual criminals doing crime vs casting a wider net and turning previously law abiding citizens into criminals.
Also as they pointed out, if it's banned in NY, you could just drive over to New Jersey and buy a printer there instead. This also works for other stuff like guns and booze.
and weed NJ has legal weed now ;D@@SudoYETI
@@SudoYETIthat actually is illegal to do with guns. Out of state transfers have to go through an FFL according to federal law. 3d printers won't have that federal legislation backing it. Alcohol is legal to transport across states legally, as long as you don't sell it without paying the proper taxes. So you're mostly right, but guns were a bad example.
This has been happening since the Reagan era. In an attempt to stop "crime" they just make more and more things illegal.
Is 3d2a like DVDA? 🎉
I don't care what anyone has to say,
"It's got all kinds of instructions for how to do things with fuel, so I used Gaslighting."
was legitimately a banger of a line that not even a pro comedian could have come up with on the spot like that.
In the Computer Build with my Sister episode, we found out that Linus caused an explosion in the boys' restroom at school by igniting hairspray... so he might be taking it all very literally.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is meant to be anti-right to repair.
3D printers let you print replacement parts, allowing you to repair something.
Obviously, banning them outright would be impossible, but limiting them, even a small bit, is still a success in their eyes.
Its definitely about control.
It’s about guns. It’s always about guns.
@@GRBSnatch no, this is more than that. Its distributed competition to corporations, and we can't have that.
Absolutely it is. But also 3D printing is precursor technology for the eventual production of prosthetics. And the medical industrial complex simply can't have you making prosthetics for 12.99 when they want you buying theirs for $63,474.64 before interest.
I think it's just new york. That state is seriously anti-gun.
If I remember correctly that list of banned firearms actually had an AirSoft rifle on it because they didn't realize it was just a "toy" because it looked like an M4. They just saw the picture, wrote down the name, and went to the next picture.
Wouldn't surprise me... There's a guy in Australia who realized that his single-shot Nerf pistol met the legal requirements for a firearm and went through the trouble of registering it with a serial number just to show how stupid their gun laws are. Also the ATF in the US tried claiming that airsoft weapons could be "readily converted" into real weapons and that a shoelace can be considered a machinegun. It is truly incredible how stupid some of these laws and opinions are
Every gun list of what is banned is “it scares me” look at ar-15 compared to a mini-14. Literally the same gun as far as how it works, just one is black and plastic.
@@ryanhamstra49 It's like the /k/ meme of the same Remington hunting rifle done in wood vs. tacticooled black with rails and gadgets. One is "Aw, what a cute varmint gun. My grandpa had one of those", the other is "No one outside the army needs a weapon of war!"
(edit: Remington, not Ruger)
@@harbl99 I have a better example. The Sutherland Springs Church shooting doesn't get much reporting. This is because not only was it stopped by a good guy with a gun the man was an NRA firearms instructor. The media can not report that not only a good guy with a gun but an NRA instructor stopped a mass shooting. In the little reporting of the shooting the shooters fire arm was labeled as an ar15 and the good guy with a gun stopped him with a hunting rifle. The hunting rifle was also an ar15.
They then began to claim he didn't stop the shooting, even though victims' who survived said the shooter was standing above them setting up the kill shot on them when their savvier began shooting at the shooter, pulling his attention off of them and saving their lives. The shooter also had notes of multiple of targets and when he fled the seen he was heading to another church.
This shooting is ignored by gun control activists because it disproves all of their claims.
@@Clone895 And yet, ATF havent made sure to ban something like a flintlock pistol or a cannon (Like on a ship from the age of sail) because reasons. I would argue that they are firearms as well. Heck after the Shinzo Abe assassination, then there had been a youtuber (Or someone on youtube rather. Not sure if we can call him youtuber) that has paper on to be able to make firearm, was able to make the same type of firearm used in the assassination. All with things that could be brought from a hardware store. Even the "gun powder" itself. I dont think the video is up, but it just shows that everyone can make a weapon out of something
The gun used to kill Abe actually used an electronic ignition system. Since it was a muzzle loader design, no firing pin is needed. I've also saw on FW a recovered gun that some criminal in Africa iirc (poachers i think?) made, it was a muzzle loading hand gun where a spent 50 BMG shell was the barrel, and they even use crushed up match heads as the powder. If people want to make a gun, they are going to make a gun. It is completely infeasible to try and completely stop it. The list of things you would have to ban would be immeasurable
A guy recently pioneered making guns out of nothing but capacitors.
BIT old but you should probably specify which Abe, Shinzo Abe, Abe Lincoln to avoid any confusion
I can't imagine what home Depot will be doing 10 years from now carding everybody that wants to buy a piece of wood
In 20 years nobody is allowed to own land anymore because you could cultivate and harvest trees.
The safer commodities act they will probably call it
I would imagine that buying a piece of gas pipe would probably merit a visit from ATF, DHS and the FBI!
I live in NY and bought two new 3d printers just because they threatened to give me a hard time about buying one. I completely agree that this form of legislation brings nothing but bad PR.
California is doing something similar with 3d printers, CNC machines, and other similar machines. Wait until they find out the Luty exists
Fun fact: you can literally make your own 3d printer out of generally available parts
They don't care about PR, they care about putting in their rules designed to take away your freedoms, autonomy, or independence. They're only 1-2 generations away from nobody realizing there was a world where none of this was even remotely thinkable. UNLESS you fight against it AND tell your children why it's important and why they should too.
Not doing that second part is them playing "the long game" and eventually winning. Oh and if you're not having children you should. They aren't because they're worried about "climate," which means your kids will replace them AND grow up to replace their policies too.... if you teach them right.
@@Sofia-qr6rg Voron FTW
Go the extra mile and make Home Depot have bouncers asking to see your background check documents and ID.
"Ver are yor paperz? You do not have paperz?"
"Oi M8, you av a loiscense for that .725 bore pipe?"
Except at home depot you can just walk out and they wouldn’t stop you
One of the reasons I left NY was some of their wild out of touch laws. Knives were ridiculously regulated and you have to show ID for whipped cream. I’m a 2A supported and this is bonkers.
ID for whipped cream?
In case someone decides to convert one into into a vial holder and smuggle dino DNA out of a secret lab on an island@@TheMsdos25
What free state did you move to if you don't mind me asking? (Not a stalker just curious on moving trends)
@@TheMsdos25 They banned canisters of Nitrous Oxide from being sold to people under 21, not the cream itself. It just so happens that cans of whipped cream also very technically count as canisters of n2o, even if you can't get high on it. Some places interpreted it as banning of whipped cream dispensers. When law makers realised it was going on they got pissed and made clarifications to the law to fix that.
It's less a tale of goverment overreach in controlling population and more in how innefective the burocracy in NY is.
@@TheMsdos25 Huffing, IIRC.
It's hilarious because the overlap between 3D2A (folks who 3D print guns) and street thug (the people who keep the crime stats of NY high) is LITERALLY 0 and because of ATF regulations, 3D printed parts can be qualified as "firearms" and so when voluntary buy-back events take place, there's always a chad who goes with 3D printed parts that are legally a firearm and exploits that IRL infinite money glitch with parts that are like, less than 1/10 of a gun (no trigger, no hammer, no firing pin, no barrel, no bolt)
There was a guy that went to Homedepot can got the materials to build a home-made firearms and sold them to the state in a "gun buy back", it cost him about $30 in materials and about 1 hours of labor to craft a crude but functioning firearm using a snap-gun method and the state bought them back for $300/each.
The funny part of the story is this, After he showed up on the 2nd day of the buy back with more homemade firearms the police threaten to turn him in to the ATF for illegal firearms production. His argument was he is producing them for private use and the only people to buy them are the police.
@Iosifavich I mean, that guy has a point. Technically, you can make almost anything so long as it's for personal use. Once you get to the point of sales, that's where you can get into trouble.
@@Iosifavich I'm not an attorney, not in my country, nor in America but I think the Heller Supreme Court decision made it legal for you to make your own firearm provided it's not an unauthorized NFA item, so an automatic or with a suppressor. "Unauthorized" becuase you can get licenses to make automatics like most gunsmithing companies do.
So this guy should have cited Heller to them, but then again, it's a legal battle of "infinite money goverment" vs "el bozo McBozovich"
Also 3dp guns are not reliable enough to ever be used seriously compared to other guns...
@@Hellsparkt 3D printed, plastic filament only, no. C&C precision machined ones + 3DP? Some people have reported making some with hundred thousand rounds through them with virtually no malfunctions.
I own 67 guns, and I own a 3D printer.
It's a lot harder than people make it out to be. You need steel parts. It'd be far easier for me to go buy some pipe from the hardware store and build a $20 slamfire shotgun, than a working 3D printed gun.
Suppressors are a good example of something that makes it safer for the operator but is banned or NFA
Same with braces
@@ric270 yes lol
Dont forget a lot of democrat run areas ban BODY ARMOR. Literally something that protects you and causes no harm and they want you to not be able to have it
Body armor
@@orppranator5230 not banned or NFA. You can have that stuff mailed to your door.
Under no pretext should this be done. The cobra effect comes to mind too, “I have to wait to buy these because a gun could be printed?……I can print a gun?….. ima print one” like tf
Oh, this screams cobra effect.
“Under no pretext” heh I see what you did there
Honestly reminds me of the story of my friend who went into a shop to buy children's craft glue. The glue is sold here as being safe for very young kids to use and is used in schools. Issue was my friend did not take ID with them. Hence she could not buy it since she could not prove she was older than 16, even though she obviously looked not only over 16 but old enough to have older kids herself. So yeah a product which is aimed to be given to kids to use cannot be bought unless you have ID proving you are an adult due to laws saying glue can only be bought by people over 16. I can see the same principle applying here.
That's when you do the money on the counter "keep the change" and walk out with it.
You can make a gun out of $3 worth of pipes and a nail. The hardest part to obtain is the shotgun cartridge.
There was a guy who built dozens of them and handed them in to a police gun amnesty where they gave a $30 gift card for every gun donated.
You can 3d print that or literally use a dollar bill. Shotgun cartridges used to be made of paper A dollar bill with quarters turns it into a slug. Not difficult in the slightest.
@@termgrecos3451 I meant the explosive part of the shotgun shell not the paper part.
@@martinperry1843 Even that is not that difficult. Just time consuming.
@@martinperry1843primer? Or powder??
@@CajunReaper95 either way it's harder to obtain that a piece of pipe and a nail.
Even if you live somewhere that sells gunpowder in gallon jugs, it's still the hardest part to obtain in a homemade shotgun, not the pipes, not the nail and definitely not the paper coating.
Ban steak knives!
They've got STRONG restrictions in the UK on the sale of knives after a complete ban on guns. 😂
@@nightcitycraftsComplete ban on guns? I will be sure to inform the shotguns in my cabinet that they have been banned.
@@nightcitycrafts I remember when that used to be a literal meme. I used to hear this all the time. "Do you _really_ think that we will have 'knife control' if guns are banned? No one would support that. Guns are weapons of war, but knives have multiple purposes. No one is coming for your guns, and no one is coming for your knives." Well well well... How the turn tables
The first time I saw a machine that turns plastic into filament was to reuse support material of 3D printed objects. That way nothing gets wasted. Seeing junk turned into 3D printed stuff fills me with great joy.
They ban 3D printers and next thing you know people will start building those pipe shotguns like that One guy across the pond. And it was way stronger than anything you can make 3D printing that's for sure. If we continue with this logic home Depot will be running background checks on everybody buying timber
... they arent banning them
@@WhatAboutRC sorry I was getting ahead of myself. First they're going to start running checks for them and next thing you know some states will just outright ban them in their state
@@Dtr146 Yea you dont have to explain it to me i got it.... i corrected you remember.
@@WhatAboutRCand the point STILL went way over your head.
@@jmacd8817 It didnt at all... I can agree with you while still pointing out you need to say the correct thing. But sure yea. whatever you need to say rather than just saying "my bad".
Just watch NY require background checks for filament purchases.
The whole point of these laws is about control. It was never about public safety.
>Who is lobbying for this stuff?
It's literally Michael Bloomberg, he basically personally bankrolls all the inane, illogical gun law lobbying. It's to the point honestly he is doing more harm to his cause than good because of how legally questionable the laws that result are.
Yeah, I don't get why people don't understand that being a shitty democrat makes republicans look good and being a shitty republican makes democrats look good.
People need to start criticizing bad actors on their side of the isle that hurt their cause and make them look like clowns.
@@Jake-bt3fcYeah, we need to start criticizing all anti-gun politicians of all backgrounds more.
Look at Luty. In the UK out of protest he designed a sub machine gun that you could build with ordinary hardware components and basic tools and ability. The weapon is pretty effective (there’s a few videos on UA-cam demonstrating them). The UK government however persecuted the heck out of him.
Crime prevention such as these laws are not tenable. You have to build social systems that discourage illegal or immoral behaviors.
They already tried to stop certain things from 3D printing by the slicers recognizing the shape of the item and not turning on the extruder. 1 line of code changed and it was bypassed
Ignore slicers, use CAD.
you still need slicers to actually print my man@@apersonontheinternet8006
@apersonontheinternet8006 you need a slicer to use a printer. Cad is for designing the part, slicing is for processing the parts into gcode.
@@cpu_1292 I guess technically Fusion 360 has a slicer integrated into the software, so my statement is misguided.
Bans tubes...then prints 4 quarters of a circle using curves to create a tub when glued together. At which point you ban any model with a curve?
That crossing the state line part is so true. Growing up in Iowa I remember crossing the border to Missouri to buy fireworks around the fourth of July due to sale restrictions in Iowa. There are fireworks stands right at the border, it's not even a pull a tarp over them issue, the state trooper sitting at the border the catch speeders for the highway speed limit change, watches you buy them and bring them back because it's a sale restriction and not a possession restriction, and that's literal explosives, not very powerful but still.
It enough of them and put the powder in a sealed container that can hold pressure and……boom.
To be fair, Bullets are also literal explosives that you can buy with no restrictions
2:45 A proper crossbow is actually really good at beating soft body armor.
Outside of the US I can't be certain. But inside of the US most law enforcement wear soft body armor. Unless they are something like swat, they are going to have more than likely soft body armor which will easily be penetrated by a compound bow or a crossbow.
This is not assassination advice.
But it is.
@@j100j I simply have information what you choose to do is your own business.
Do not mind me slowly sliding the locations of ATF field offices towards you.
The problem all lawmakers never seem to understand is that bad people get real firearms easily on the black market all of the time.
Thanks Linus, now there's legislation for background checks in NY on scissors and tape.
Let's not forget that with most newer 3D printers, it's becoming increasingly common for them not to connect to a computer and you have to use a USB stick to transfer files to the printer.
The only REAL way to safeguard the children is to also require a background check to buy or posses a USB flashdrive.
And plastics, computers, and basically everything related. But these are Democrats.. its what they do.
You can literally build a 3d printer with some mechanical and structural parts and a arduino
I'm 💯 in favor of anyone wanting to buy a 3D printer having to first complete an Anger Management seminar.
Because _goddamn_ those coping skills will come in handy when a knot in your filament spool borks your print in Hour 95 of a four-day print.
Anger management course to use any printer seems pretty reasonable, let alone a 3D printer 😂
You definitely have a point here 😂
Anything over a hammer and a skill saw has it's moments. I guess, I must be a glutton for punishment.
@@bobbylittle6996 As are we all 🤣
Argh I'm mad just thinking about the possibility 😂
3d printers popularized because all of the sudden you could build one with scraps on your backyard. Good luck enforcing background checks for copper wires and steel rods.
Fun fact: high end prints with industrial grade materials are usually self assembled from shelves parts with optional cnc made parts.
This would 100% fall flat on First Amendment grounds. A printer is a tool of expression without a doubt.
We'll just have to see if someone tries to use that to fight it and see how it goes through
LOL no it isn't. But this is still stupid. You can just as easily use a piece of wood. Should there be background checks to get lumber?
@@5urg3x”Why not? If you have nothing to hide why would there be a problem?” - NY Legislators
It's New York, their laws should fall flat on Second Amendment grounds too. But New York and California like to compete for the worst states.
@@mbpaintballa At least we don’t hunt people down for having miscarriages though 🤷♂️
Next they'll be trying to control the parts you would need to build a Voron. The hoops you'll have to jump through just to print your D&D terrain and minis in the future will be wild.
It's a part of legally getting more people on watch lists and be able to have their data in any data center, not only some CIA data servers
The thing with 3D-printing guns is, that it's perceived as easy and accessible. It obviously isn't just downloading a file and printing it, but the lawmakers don't get that. By the time you've sanded, finished, built and reinforced it (including all extra parts you basically need), you've spent more time and craftsmanship to create a worse product, than with any other method. And you're probably blow off your own hand by the 4th shot. (So way before you could hurt anyone) Oh yeah, you of course still need to get your hands on bullets too...
I like to see people who've never looked into the 3d2a community talk like they know what's up. Sure there's lots of work to have a good printer setup but once it's dialed in you can easily hit print and have minimal post processing. Then assemble the firearm and you're off to the races with the ability to go 100's to 1000's of rounds
@@lawtubeclips9670I know right? It’s wild how so many people still think that the Liberator is still the be-all and end-all of 3DP guns. The FGC-9 was released back in 2020, and even it’s considered somewhat passé today.
@@lawtubeclips9670Can we take a second to appreciate how Linus called them "2FA" die-hards? Like, I can't remember whether Luke has taken a stand on Yubikeys or TOTP-based authenticators, but it doesn't really seem germane to the current discussion.
Ehhhh it's more repeatable and faster than any other method.
By this logic you should need a background check for buying metal pipe and a bastard file, which could be used to make a really simple slamfire shotgun easily. EDIT: Posted before I finished the video, I'm glad they mentioned this hahaha
Also, is it going to be illegal now, to sell secondhand 3d printers?
@@DingleFlopsell aslong as they get their tax stamp which they really want
The title made me raise an eyebrow. If 3D printers become illegal, or restricted, I'll gladly join up with any group that wants to openly defy the law.
Anyone who has ever used a 3D printer or even seen a 3D printed part knows this is the dumbest thing. 3D printed plastic delaminates when the weather changes, let alone handling the 50,000psi created by smokeless powder
Yeah exactly.
I mean I'm all for gun control legislations, but it has to make sense and be sensible. This here ain't it, I have no idea what it is they think they're gonna accomplish with that boneheaded of a law.
@@urg6923 It really gives "we're going to solve global warming by dumping an ice cube into the ocean" vibes. Literal orders of magnitude off in their "calculations"
Like Linus said, a 3D printed gun won't be as effective as a regular gun that does not mean it cannot be done, also, with regular consumer grade 3D printers you could probably make something that could fire probably somewhere between 20 to 50 22 shorts which are absolutely capable of killing people
I'd recommend looking up the fgc-9 I've built and posted videos of it shooting on my channel
I highly beg to differ, I've done a lot of 2a with printers
It would be vastly easier to buy a gun illegally than to print one
What are they going to do next? Ban people from having hands because they might use them for rude gestures towards politicians?
This legislation is pretty much the only thing that made me think "i wonder if I can easily download a gun STL". Never crossed my mind before :)
As somebody who is in this field this is a really level headed take that i really appreciate.
In other news 3D printed firearms might have made more progress than anybody would have expected in the last 5 years and are actually pretty competent these days.
I'm sure there's no reason why things progressed so fast in the last 5 years.
they should make background checks required for purchasing ANY computer, since ANY computer could be used for hacking...totally makes sense.
You can build a 3d printer from off the shelf parts that you can find in any hardware and electronics store, even if they completely banned printers they could still be easily made by anyone with any experience building them.
That’s exactly what I was thinking (and the printer is really good too, for eg, Voron)
I remember making one with cd drives back in the day
This law shows just how dumb legislators are. Everyone should be able to buy a 3D Printer. People that print illegal things on their printer should be held accountable.
"it's got all kinds of instructions on how to do things with fuel, I used gaslighting" absolutely dead. Something you could become if you follow instructions from the "anarchist cookbook". But also in all seriousness there have been books printed on how to make guns with a trip to the hardware store long before the invention of 3D printers, Philip Luty is rolling in his grave RN. Aside from that making your own guns in the states is legal so far as the completed firearm doesn't run afoul of some other law; i.e. you can't legally make a machine gun without the proper licensing because machineguns made after 1986 aren't legal for the general population to own, but a shotgun rifle or pistol are fair game so long as they comply with all other federal state and local laws.
Better ban drill presses, lathes, any form of CNC machinery, simple household nails, any type of steel piping, compost bins, charcoal, basically any household cleaner, and almost every form of garden fertilizer as well... They're all much more practical and much more dangerous than a 3D printer. Especially the fertilizer.
I love that you can print and upgrade an existing gun but can't really make one to last. Print a scope adaptor so a scope you like works with your gun, or a grip or fast mag swap. Like you guys said it is hard to print a gun to last because they just can't take the stress.
Google the fgc9
You really wouldn't want a printed scope adapter because aluminum just works better, and several designs go past the 1000 round mark.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD I didn't know this.
You can totally print a gun that lasts, the 3d printed firearms technology has rapidly developed over the past couple years
The ORCA disagrees. The FGC-9 too.
You can terminate someone with their own hands, Are they gonna ban hands?
Typical for that side of the line... always going after the symptom and not the cause.
FGC 9 is an example of a relatively complex, repeating 9mm carbine made from only 3D printed parts, hardware store components, and if you want to take the easy route, unregulated firearms parts for the trigger pack, but they can be replaced with handmade parts too.
This could completely kill 3D printing in New York state. Stores would just stop selling them and online retailers would stop shipping to New York. But by this logic, we need to ban milling machines, lathes, steel pipe, etc..
Also, when printed correctly, a 3D printed Glock 19 Gen 3 can last well over 1000 rounds.
I want to see them require a background check to buy plumbing parts. With a few basic machine tools, it’s not hard to make a full-auto, open bolt machine gun.
Us FPV drone pilots and builders we use 3D Printers for our camera mounts and antenna mounts. Also for protection of the carbon fiber frame!
BTW most 3D printers have designs available for free online and the simplest models can be made out of scraps and some electronics
3:30 you can also fire a 12 gauge out of a flair gun, and at least where I live you don't need a background check to buy either of those.
Only once tho
This segment is one step short of Linus telling you to go to home Depot and build a pipe pistol. What a time to be alive
Cyber guns in my dystopia? Awesome!
@@jungletek If we can crack solid-state battery tech, which seems to be coming pretty soon, railguns and coilguns might become more than an experimental curiosity. And good luck regulating those, they have less moving parts than a firearm.
“It’s got all kinds of instructions for how to do things with fuel, I used gaslighting” too good.
in 2016 I trained for security work here in germany, so a bit before the 3d printing rage. "hidden weapons" were an topic too. there were people appariently who build one shot "guns" in cigarette packages decades ago and appariently it ain't even that hard. if people want to build their own guns, they will do it, 3d printing or not.
All weapons should be "hidden" If you're not hiding it then you're brandishing it.
@@Jake-bt3fc I very much prefer it, when they don't hide them - this way there are no evil suprises and i can (from an "Im at work"-perspectvie) just call the cops on them for illegaly carryeng a weapon.
again, germany. so guns are very rare and highly illegal to just carry around with you willy-nilly when you want to buy some gas or something
@@Callsign_Sturm Concealed carry is the only sensible option unless you intentionally want to be conspicuous and draw attention to yourself and make yourself the obvious first target of the bad guy who is always going to get the drop on you because you're carrying for self defense and he's attacking.
18:34 "I'm now holding it. That was quick" and 20:32 "can I feel it?" that's what she said, lmao
3D printers are one of the easiest things to build. They literally came from the diy community
Lets register and do background checks in order to buy a aluminum or any metal block
Would CNC machines be considered subtractive 3D printers?
More like 3D printers are additive CNC machines
Would airplanes be considered flying cars?
Here’s the thing get the printers that can print the gun right are just as much as getting a gun at the black market and so criminals would do that not putting in the work to get it working right when they can get a real one instead and the reason why they want to ban printed guns is because of ghost guns but 98% of ghost guns are gun that don’t have a serial number and that’s what we should be worried about not printed guns that explode or miss fire or jam on your first 100 shots until you figure out your settings to make it able to shot a couple shots in a row
the purpose is lawmakers can look like theyre doing something while actually doing nothing
This is true for at least 75% of all gun laws
It's frustrating to see how politicians can completely miss the mark when it comes to addressing real issues. Requiring background checks for 3D printer purchases is definitely not going to help at all with the gun problem, given that those with malicious intent can easily access firearms through more cost-effective means than acquiring a 3D printer and materials. It's not only a clear example of politicians failing to grasp the actual problems at hand, but it also feels like they are putting forth proposals just to give the appearance of taking action while they're in reality, playing around in office and collecting paychecks without making any substantial impact on the issues
If we're doing state measuring contests just look at Western Australia, I think we win, just ignore the fact pretty much all of it is uninhabited 😂
The fact that 2 days ago, NYPD released a pdf on how to make a ghost gun....
Fun fact about the ban on hunting rifles they mentioned is that Laser Guider Anti Tank missiles are listed as well. Our government actually thought that ATGM's were legal.
_sigh_ Canada used to be so cool…
As an American, I'll apologize for us letting our elected officials rewrite laws drastically in their own favor. I.e.: term limits, compensation, etc., etc. ...
This is just people in power trying to limit the scope of competition. The people who can't get normal jobs because of prejudice could use 3d printers to make goods to sell, and this move is against that happening.
The irony is that there are at least two microcenters in New York iirc.
One is in Yonkers, and the other is in Manhattan. Both are brick n mortar shop havens for 3D printing.
That is an interesting one it does seem they are picking and choosing what they considered a weapon and what is not. If that is the case anyone with a camera with or without video capability and access to editing software can be considered a weapon too.🤔 I know it’s a reach but some think that misinformation can be a threat too using this tools.
You have a camera on that phone? What are you planning oncmaking CP? Straight to jail.
@@shadow105720 and the computer owners? Straight to gulag.
@@shadow105720 I mean the state does a good job of protecting Epstein's clients, so you might be good. If you put a naughty piece of plastic on your gun however....
I assume a thousand people who have never shot guns got in the comments and became experts on how you can actually make a rifle out of plastic.
My opposition to this kind of law is simple: it assumes from the start that all citizens are potential criminals, and they have to prove themselves to the authorities. Morally, it's something I can never stomach, and unfortunately this thought procesd is the basis for a lot of laws out there.
As far as to who might lobby for this, I can point out at firearm manufacturers. They certainly aren't pleased at the perspective of people potentally making their own guns fast and easy. Of course it's funny considering how far away we are from making viable guns, but the potential is there.
Gun laws are not about security. its about control, thats why it doesnt makes sense
Ban kitchen knives. Ban long metal objects. Ban glass. Ban sticks, ban sports equipment, ban speaking, ban thinking
Are you going to ban mini lathes? Anyone with a library card, a mini lathe, and a mini mill can make their own machine gun if they wanted to.
Just want to point out that _murder_ is already illegal. Just in case anyone wasn't quite aware of that little tidbit of information. Killing another person = big no-no.
So..... any additional laws that outlaw murdering people in specific ways or with specific tools is completely and utterly redundant.
Technically speaking, styrofoam and gasoline alone doesn't actually make nalpalm. It burns really well though. There is a component that is added to the mixture, but it isn't well known.
If it is made or has been modified to propel projectiles to hazardous speeds, its a firearm and has to abide by the law.
I keep seeing this being reported as if its a law thats likely to be passed and supported by a lot of lawmakers.
From further reading this seems to be written and backed by a single representative.
It seems unlikely it would ever get passed.
For anyone interested; Get the printer now. These people are crazy and will ban anything to strip you of your basic human right to protect yourself. I would go one step further; buy everything you need to protect yourself today rather than tomorrow.
In New York, even apartments have license plates. Why shouldn't your 3D printer? =)
To answer the question of who lobbied for this: no one. This is a result of American politics. Basically because New York City is pretty much only democratic, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing, the politicians need issues to use as campaign ads. In order to make themselves seem like they are making a difference they must have issues they promote and because they are democrat is had to be something like this. Because of our two party system, things in America usually only go in the direction of more radical even if it means more stupidity. Might be hard to understand when your not from our terrible political system. Hope this helps!!
can we just talk about the fact that you can build a 3-d printer part by part like a PC. theres no way to actually regulate this.
Anybody who wants a 3D printer should have one. Anyone who wants to make a ghost gun should be able. NY is a clown show. God bless PA Luty.
This just emphasizes the absurdity with banning and background checks on firearms in general. Some people are just grasping at anything they can to impact the ability for people to get them.
The Next Layer (youtube & podcast) had a really good coverage of this. Basically at this stage, it's non-trivial to make, but the tools are now a CHEAP printer, basic filament, and stuff from the local hardware store.
NY has a few Microcenters, a place that VERY commonly has Ender 3 Pros for sale for $99
Next they will ban gardening tools and kitchen knives, just like the UK.
This is the kind of stuff we have had to deal with since hochul took office. She has lost her mind
Welcome to states with strict gun laws in US. Make laws that are the most restrictive and annoying to everyday law abiding while doing least possible to stop gun crime
2:18 The entire argument of gun control. People who want guns will have them. It doesn't matter if they're smuggled OEM, 3D printed, made in a machine shop, or completely homemade with hand tools. The genie can't be put back in the bottle at this point.